DKVP project 12322 "Bison" will be modernized

The Ministry of Defense decided to conduct a major modernization of the air cushion landing craft (DKVP). This is reported "News" with reference to the military department.

The military decided to improve the hovercraft. According to the plans of the Ministry of Defense, the DKVP "Mordovia" of the 12322 "Bison" project will be the first to modernize. In the course of improvement, the ship will receive modern navigation systems, it will update the armament, install new means of communication and control, as well as the latest automatic control system (ACS). The beginning and terms of modernization are not called.

In the early 1990s as part of the Naval fleet The USSR had eight DKVP Zubr, but after the collapse of the country, most of them went to Ukraine. Currently, the Russian Navy has two mdkvp project 12322 - "Mordovia" and "Eugene Kocheshkov", which are part of the Baltic Fleet.

At the end of July last year, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said that the state armament program until 2027 provides for the construction of air-cushion landing ships of the 12322 Zubr and 12061 Murena projects. Construction will be carried out at the Khabarovsk shipyard. According to him, this is not about units, but about a large order for the DKVP.

The hovercraft of Project 12322 of the Bison type has a length of 57 meters and a width of 20 meters. Displacement is 535 tons, draft - only 2 meters. It is equipped with high-temperature gas turbine engines that provide the ship with an air cushion thanks to four 2,5-meter propellers, and it is driven by three more propellers with a variable angle of attack and diameters of 5,5 meters. The ship is capable of speeds of 70 knots or 130 km / h. The Bison can land on 78% of the coast of the world without any preparation, although landing ships with opening nose ramps do this only on 14% of coastlines. The ship is capable of delivering three to the coast tank weighing up to 150 tons or 10 armored personnel carriers with marines. In addition to transporting troops, the ship can carry out the installation of minefields and provide fire support to the troops.

Comments

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

A good thing for paratroopers, and modernization will only strengthen its power and strength.

[regulus]

I doubt that he was tested for combat stability from anti-ship missiles, coastal artillery, aviation, UAVs, etc.

[PROXOR]

Respected. ZUBR approaches the coast when the front line is cleared with the help of aviation and weapons of the Navy. His task is to deliver the first batch of marine corps to capture the bridgehead. Further to the shore, UDC is suitable. It is UDC that planted the bulk of the forces.

[regulus]

Respected. RCC, aviation, UAVs can operate far from the coastline, so the Bison can reach the coast alive. And only infantry can completely clear the coastline. And so the artillery otvetka can fly.

[PROXOR]

It appears so! In order to direct anti-ship missiles, radar facilities are needed on the shore. which are now spotted VERY QUICKLY. You can aim a missile at laser target designation, but for this you need a special forces group with such laser target designation. Given that the enemy DOES NOT KNOW the landing site, along the coast of 20-30 km long you do not run into the search for the landing site.
Aviation and UAVs forget. In the landing zone will be surface ships with air defense. And the Bison will cover at least the cruiser of projects 1144 or 1164.

[PROXOR]

And I’m chewing for you as a lesson. I see that there is nothing more to answer, since we have switched to insults.

[regulus]

ABOUT! Already there is no scream, and that’s good. Complain about the insults moder. He will punish me if there is anything. Do you seriously think that the enemy will stupidly wait until the ship group with the bison comes ?! It will be of course, if she has no reconnaissance satellites, aviation, navy, electronic warfare, UAVs of all sorts. But then this is the scenario of Guinea. I’m only afraid that the bison will not get there. I wonder where you really want to send the bison?

[regulus]

There is no answer, the student fell silent ..

[WILL]

Once I saw this Beauty, as they say alive! Impression for a lifetime!
No wonder the Chinese were so interested in him! It is a pity that from the non-brothers they got all the best practices ...

[tlauicol]

the Chinese studied them well and ... preferred to copy the American DKVP

[WILL]

I am not a techie, unfortunately ... in my opinion, ours are better in terms of performance. One speed difference of 20 knots ... is already a fat plus.
I could be wrong ... but !!! As a Marine - I’ll say for sure, it’s quicker to reach the shore and enter the operational space, the dream of any Marine.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: ANIMAL

I am not a techie, unfortunately ... in my opinion, ours are better in terms of performance. One speed difference of 20 knots ... is already a fat plus.
I could be wrong ... but !!! As a Marine - I’ll say for sure, it’s quicker to reach the shore and enter the operational space, the dream of any Marine.

As a Marine - I’ll say for sure, it’s quicker to reach the shore and enter the operational space, the dream of any Marine.

The motto and dream of any Russian marines: "Where we are - there is victory!" and not what you come up with yourself there.

[WILL]

You the difference between the concepts of Motto and Dream ... feel? Or do not speak Russian? Who can be defeated while on a landing boat ... boat crew? sensing skin - what ... now landing!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

You the difference between the concepts of Motto and Dream ... feel?

and you do not, just write this.

Or do not speak Russian?

What you write, most likely not, do not own it.

Who can be defeated while on a landing boat ... boat crew? sensing skin - what ... now landing!

No need to bear this heresy, I realized that I wrote it.

[Serg65]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

what about the Marine’s motto and desire,

Do you know what the marine wishes are?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

what about the Marine’s motto and desire,

Do you know what the marine wishes are?

Serega, I won’t repeat myself, please be nice at the very top, look at my second comment, I wrote about it there.

[Serg65]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

I will not repeat

The motto is yes, but the Marine's dream is to get to the shore alive!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Serg65

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

I will not repeat

The motto is yes, but the Marine's dream is to get to the shore alive!

And dreams are made up of mottos and this is a fact.

[Serg65]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Dreams are made up of mottos and this is a fact.

If only everything were so easy! Once the guys with the motto "Nobody but us" during a storm of only 6 balls so often remembered their mother, you cannot tell!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

If everything were so easy!

It is not, all is well and moreover, when one person speaks and speaks for everyone.

mom was remembered

And it is very good that first of all she remembers Mom, only she with a pure soul helps always.

and you do not pass!

And I don’t need to pass on, I know what it is.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

People’s opinions are formed, first of all, from the motto of the kind of troops where you serve. And when a person speaks for himself and is responsible for everyone at the same time, this is not good.

[Serg65]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

People’s opinions are formed, first of all, from the motto of the kind of troops where you serve.

Well maybe..

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

when a person speaks for himself and is responsible for everyone, this is not good.

Even considering that this man is a captain of the marine corps?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Even considering that this man is a captain of the marine corps?

Not only does he have one tag on his shoulder straps, I doubt that he is an officer about whom you write, an officer would never fall below words of human dignity in words and insults and would always choose the right words. He expressed his opinions, I also expressed my opinions and corrected him, what was written a little incorrectly on his part and this is a normal phenomenon, these are comments and people express their opinions. And what’s the catch, of all this, they began to go straight into the profile and put the minuses, but this can’t be solved, since I showed you this in parallel and thereby showed your weakness.

[Serg65]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

I doubt that he is an officer about whom you write,

Your right, but it's true!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Here you are in vain and there’s nothing to it, to upload other people's confidential information about a person without his consent on the Internet.

Even considering that this man is a captain of the marine corps?

Your right, but it's true!

From these words it turns out that this is true, but this is already confidential information about a person and it is not worth writing about it, without his consent and no matter what person is.

[LiSiCyn]

Yes, do not bother, people did not read it. About the motto was not about the dream was. Not a Marine myself, but living in Kaliningrad and seeing with my own eyes how the landing on the coast takes place ... I am for the Zubrov. Anyway, the coastal dune will pass easily. And there it is already possible to land the troops. The only thing that confuses me is the cloud of spray. How does the radar respond?

[Russia]

Greetings Stas Talk to the Marine, normal man. The hunter and the fisherman.

[novel66]

fearfully?? go on raw

[WILL]

Quote: novel xnumx

fearfully?? go on raw

Novel I am a miracle - just saw it! Landed from the little things in the amount of 20 people.
Fearfully??? Not WWII, after all. And not to the Small Earth ... but Mandrazh is, not to be dishonored and do everything beautifully! Especially since they look and evaluate!

[novel66]

somewhere even enviable ... accomplishments .. my reverence

[WILL]

Quote: novel xnumx

somewhere even enviable ... accomplishments .. my reverence

Roman ... I am Viktorovich - I have been calling fishing for a long time! Come - always happy! I will arrange for you to land on an unprepared shore ... from Kazanka 5m4 ... Hand over all standards, with a fright!

[novel66]

I'm old fat and lazy, where can I go!

[WILL]

Do not know - teach! Do not want to - Let's make it!

[novel66]

optimistic too much! I also don’t like to get up early in the morning!

[WILL]

Quote: novel xnumx

optimistic too much! I also don’t like to get up early in the morning!

So - we won’t let you sleep! and then remember the cap!

[novel66]

I am able to sleep while standing - I am an aviation technician

[WILL]

Quote: novel xnumx

I am able to sleep while standing - I am an aviation technician

Here ... this thing! So we’ll tie you to the Nose - like the Vikings! We’ll do three things at once ...
1. You will be a symbolic figure, scaring away all evil spirits!
2. Forward looking - no need!
3. And it will be softer to stick into the sand ....

[novel66]

Well, why the hell am I fishing and this fish?

[WILL]

And the memories? What about the company? We have both Sterlet and Sturgeon and Nelma ... you really can't catch .... and Nalima in 10 kg - you will take it with Viktorovich (for two according to the catch standards). Thank God there is fish! And it’s getting bigger ... Ugh, Ugh ... and what places! Again pokatushki ... 55 Yamaha - a beast and not a motor!

[novel66]

I was fishing on the lower Volga - also not bad, but I got enough sleep, as I myself appointed the duty on camp, lepotaa!

[WILL]

Roman Batkovich, in Western Siberia - Severe people live!
I have a son - I decided to become an explorer of the Arctic, at seven !!! years old. Aunt (my dear sister) took him to work ... she is the vice-rector of one of Our (country-wide) universities ... he listened about Polar bears, about the Northern Sea Route, about Chelyuskin .... that the Arctic has not been explored, said - I’ll Explore Everything !
For all - we will find application! Ballast in the boat - also needed!

[novel66]

Well, I rarely drank up ballast ... Petrovich, if that ..

[WILL]

Sanych ... if in return!

[novel66]

and can be individually

[WILL]

As the People’s wisdom says ... at least call a cargo - just don’t put it in the basket!
There is a more severe option ... call at least “Buoy” - only lick more often!
Pleased to meet you!!!

[novel66]

similarly !! with your everywhere more fun !!

[Serg65]

Quote: ANIMAL

I am a miracle - just saw it!

Not a Marine, but has been a Marine cabman on several occasions. This is really a MIRACLE, you can hear it from far away, you can see it from far away, you can turn it from a Kalash into a "colander".

[LiSiCyn]

Sergey, welcome
I agree, and you can hear and see ... But the speed and psychological effect, as well as the 2nd AK-630 on the nose, make shooting from Kalash somewhat problematic. In addition, count also plays a role. He is even alone, looking menacing, on the go.

[Dude]

When one of the "Bison" was on the "Almaz" and somehow started the engines early in the morning, I, being on Cash, almost fell out of bed, I thought - the war had begun, not otherwise!
Rumble from him, of course! .. But the ship is spectacular

[Serg65]

Welcome Stas

Quote: LiSiCyn

But the speed and psychological effect, as well as the 2nd AK-630 on the nose, make shooting from Kalash somewhat problematic.

Well, let’s say so, landing is in itself a difficult event. Difficulty begins immediately from the moment the movement of the landing assault warrant begins to move and is protected. DKVP also goes in the order and its speed in this case does not matter. But after air and artillery processing of the landing zone, yes, I agree, only the speed of the landing ship gives the marines a chance to seize the bridgehead until the enemy comes to his senses. But what if aviation and naval artillery did not completely crush the enemy defenses? The Bison approaches the shore, and here, from behind a hill, a lad with a shaitan pipe .... everything is always beautiful and colorful during exercises. In December of 93, at the request of Comrade Clinton, Mr. Yeltsin ordered to save his bosom friend Shevarnadze from evil Abkhazians. The MDK-93 urgently left Sevastopol with the senior on board brigade commander, 197th Captain, Maximov. The noise of a suitable Bison alarmed Abkhaz dzhigits, who decided that a helicopter had been sent for Edik. Abkhazians opened heavy fire from all that was. After the second attempt, the marines rebelled, the clanging of bullets inside the ship gave a small pleasant sensation, the black berets were reassured only that Maximov had only pretexts in the Russian literary in his speech.
Although, according to the results of the wholesale exercises and the exercises of 1985, the MDCWP showed their best! During the Shield-88 exercises, he himself observed the landing of the DShG from Orca and how a peaceful Bulgarian tractor driver, having heard the noise and seeing a water ball from the sea side, threw his tractor to hell and at a decent speed he sniffed wherever they looked!

[LiSiCyn]

Sergey, our to you
We have morning, you have day

Quote: Serg65

how a peaceful Bulgarian tractor driver, having heard the noise and seeing a water ball from the sea side, threw his tractor to hell and at a decent speed he choked on wherever they look!

I watched a couple of times a demonstration landing at the "Khmelevka" BF. MDKVP seems to me more suitable for the Baltic. Once, seen in the fog. Psychological effect , it seemed to me that about 6 pieces were going to the shore (flying). And as we were on the beach, there was a thought to run away for the dune

[Serg65]

Quote: LiSiCyn

MDKVP seems to me more suitable for the Baltic

Well, why, he will find work at the Black Sea Fleet, and especially at the Pacific Fleet with its islands!

Quote: LiSiCyn

you have a day

Already had lunch ..

[Paranoid50]

Quote: ANIMAL

But Mandrazh is, do not be dishonored and do everything beautifully! Especially since they look and evaluate!

There is such a moment, or rather, there was such a moment. This is something akin to the first jump in the landing. And, by the way, you can screw up out of the blue, when, it seems, nothing portends. There were incidents ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: novel xnumx

fearfully?? go on raw

Untrained - this is about infra. And as for the processing, then be calm - no one will chase the living, fully functioning coastal defense of our brother’s adversary.

[Lexus]

They have different purposes. "Zubrs" are independent DKVPs, intended for the delivery of assault forces in coastal operations, and LCACs are intended for the landing of assault forces from UDC and DKVD and are themselves sharpened for deployment on them. The Chinese, believe me, "sucked" the maximum from both projects.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Tlauicol

the Chinese studied them well and ... preferred to copy the American DKVP

Why would the Chinese need a huge Zubr, if they have carriers of boats - DVDKD and UDC? For the Chinese, the DKVP is an auxiliary vehicle for transporting equipment and l / s between the base ship and the coast, and not an independent landing ship, like ours.

[tlauicol]

Yes. They do not need a bison. Does not climb into the ship and there is no range

[svp67]

Quote: ANIMAL

Once I saw this Beauty, as they say alive!

There is not only a view, but also a sound .... !!!!! This is of course NOT WHAT !!!

Quote: ANIMAL

It is a pity that from the non-brothers they got all the best practices ...

Here are just the developments, in the sense of our projects, the execution was Crimean. And then the question is, why not release them again there? Where, where, and on the Black Sea this KVP is very cozy even ...

[Avis-bis]

Quote: svp67

Where, where, and on the Black Sea this KVP is very cozy even ...

They would have to increase the range. After all, 300 NM, as I understand it, is a technical range, not a combat radius. And from Crimea to the most remote points of the World Cup (Istanbul and the Georgian coast) 200-300 NM. To get back from both points, you need to keep a tanker nearby. And taking into account possible deviations and maneuvering in place, the radius is still reduced.

[Dikson]

You can always put additional tanks with fuel .. In the end, instead of two military vehicles, drive two tankers ... How is polar aviation done? ...))

[svp67]

Quote: Dikson

In the end, to drive two tankers instead of two combat vehicles ...

In this case, "the game is not worth the candle." These KVP are used for the quick transfer and landing of the forces to capture the bridgehead, everything is subordinate to this. So, TK is certainly not the place there. And you can refuel them on the move as part of the marching order of landing ships before the final dash and when returning from a tanker

[svp67]

Quote: Avis-bis

They would have to increase the range.

I think that in the modernized project this will be taken into account.

[Dude]

The sound of him, of course, SONG !!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ANIMAL

It is a pity that from the non-brothers they got all the best practices ...

And after a short time, the Chinese will stamp hundreds of them without thinking about the development. And the brothers will receive dollars for the construction of a small cottage and for the Korean subcompact of Ukrainian assembly.

[svp67]

Quote: tihonmarine

And after a short time, the Chinese will stamp hundreds of them without thinking about the development.

No, it didn't work out for them. That they either misunderstood, or too clever, in short, the hulls of the Chinese "Bison" are cracking ... in the most bad places. they abandoned mass construction

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

No, it didn't work out for them. What was it that the roofing felts were misunderstood, the roofing felts were too clever, in short, the bodies of the Chinese "Bison" are cracking ... in the most bad places.

Yes, the heads in the USSR were not their present ones. We also licensed the AK-47 for them and built the plant, and they themselves concocted the AKM from ours, so that after the third horn "spat".

[New Year day]

Quote: ANIMAL

Once I saw this Beauty, as they say alive!

I saw more than once. When I started the engines and went into the water, then our BDK pumped. The roar stood, aircraft engines, in my opinion were. So that

Quote: ANIMAL

Impression for a lifetime!

[Sergey39]

Plans for the construction of a large batch of new transformed into the modernization of a pair of old?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov said that the state armament program until 2027 provides for the construction of air-cushion landing ships of projects 12322 Zubr and 12061 Murena. Construction will be carried out at the Khabarovsk shipyard.

Where did you see that the modernization of 2 Teeth built in the 90s is instead of what is provided for by the state rearmament program until 2027?

Look at the construction site of the Bison and Muren. They are made in the Far East. I suppose that it is precisely to strengthen the defense of the Kuril Islands.

And to modernize those that will be somewhere closer in the Baltic, they will simply be brought to the modern level.

[Chaldon48]

Why only the Kuril Islands, the whole Far East needs to be equipped, and in the tundra it is generally an indispensable vehicle

[LiSiCyn]

Sergei , well, tell me, "Bison" is POWER !!! Sorry, the increase in number for the BF is now being delayed. How much do you need for the brigade?

[Mountain shooter]

There are a lot of them, if you count on active behavior with "bad" neighbors, with the landing of troops and deep strategic operations. Are these ships for defense? I have a bad idea of ​​where and how.

[Kamchatsky]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

. For defense such ships? I don’t know where and how.

Well, live with wolves - you have to be prepared for everything.

[Dikson]

For border troops in the Arctic? You can’t shove some serious equipment into an armored personnel carrier or helicopter ..

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

For defense such ships? I don’t know where and how.

Kuril ridge? On the islands you can’t get big forces; you have to transfer them. Preventively or for counterattack. Or urgent evacuation of their own, as described in the famous story.

[Sarduor]

Who knows, are ekranoplanes going to revive?

[Dikson]

Theoretically, this thing can be knocked out by Javelin? Well, or any other system with a heat detection head ... In general, the country really needs such machines. And in the Far East, and in the Arctic ..- we have enough coasts .. And where other means cannot ensure the landing and delivery of equipment - these machines are capable of completing the task ..

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Theoretically, this thing can be knocked out by Javelin?

Such a ship Javelin as an elephant grains. Such a ship can only be destroyed by an anti-shipable rocket and it will probably take several hits.

The bison is a landing ship, it carries landing on the other side, and does not capture the coast, previously this area is captured and cleaned up by other forces specially designed for this.

The advantages of this ship are speed and the ability to land troops with equipment on a large number of coastal areas.

Such ships, and even at the Pacific Fleet, we need. To send, as they say now, the signal to Japan - our islands and we will fight for them.

Bison will be able to quickly send reserves to the Kuril Islands and pick up the wounded.

Yes, and mines and torpedoes to such a ship are not likely to be scared, but it actually turns out above the water surface flies on an air cushion, and does not sail.

He would have another type of Shell-M air defense, a couple on the sides, so that at least some chance was to repel a missile attack. On the previous Bison only MANPADS were, now this does not protect the ship.

[Alexey-74]

An excellent landing ship without exaggeration - the best in the world!

[Alexey RA]

Zubr can land troops on 78% of the world's shores without any preparation, although amphibious assault ships with opening nose ramps do this only on 14% of the coastlines.

This is to the question - why are the DVKD / UDC needed to land with the help of air cushion landing boats, and what is their advantage over the classic Soviet BDK with ramps.

[tlauicol]

They can land, only they cannot reach these 78% of the coast. They were useful when we had items in Bulgaria Germany Poland, i.e. close to the straits. Now useless

[Igor Borisov_2]

Somehow forgot to mention that under the contract with Greece in the period from 2000 to 2004, 4 ships were sold, which became part of the Greek Navy .....

[dirk182]

Wikipedia writes that two MDKs under the head numbers 105,106 are unfinished. Someone in the know? And yet, the MDK can not be used as a means of crossing when crossing rivers?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

MDK can not be used as a means of crossing when crossing rivers?

You want to put it across the river like a pontoon bridge ?!

Or do you want Cupid to cross them and storm China?

So such a ship will pass everywhere, it is also an air cushion.

[kvakin]

In 90 they took Firefly next to such a Bison, it’s been inside a couple of times. They asked the boys (conscripts) like a pepelats, they answered like nothing but the officers hang themselves - at low speed the Bison does not turn anywhere, it’s easier to land a spaceship than to moor in a regular port (it’s probably easier to park), these are not my words. Maybe the autopilot was not configured and was not finalized, all the same, 2 or 3 boats in a row, or did not learn how to steer correctly yet - I don’t know, but it was like that. He also does not have seaworthiness, only for calm seas, which 78% and which smokers - forget it.
And so glad of course that old friends still live and serve.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

He also does not have seaworthiness, only for calm seas, which 78% and which smokers - forget it.

You do not grind nonsense.

Seaworthiness on a hovercraft ?!

You take a look at the speed of this ship - 130 km / h !!!

Here is his trump card, he doesn’t have to go around the world, but throw a company of motorized rifles or tanks from one place to another.

From Sakhalin to the Kuril Islands 500 km, the Bison will cover this distance in 4 hours !!!

Which ship to handle better and faster ?!

Moreover, the Bison can load and unload a company of motorized rifles, marines or tanks from any part of the coast to any part of the coast, rather than rowing along the armored troop-carrier from the BDK. He does not need a port or a berth or special loaders.

Bison is essentially autonomous and very fast ferry.

And among other things, I suppose that the Bison on an air cushion is not afraid of any mines or torpedoes of the enemy, as it essentially flies above the water, and torpedoes and mines so far seem to not jump out of the water and their speed is more modest.

Well, poor handling at low speed is bad due to the fact that it is driven by air flow and this is a feature of all ships of this type. In general, there are tugs in the port to moor.

The bison is a unique ship, and at certain points it is indispensable and Russia needs it both in the Baltic, the Black Sea Fleet and the Pacific Fleet.

[tlauicol]

500 km to smoked - this is a one-way ticket for the bison - far too

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

500 km to smoked - this is a one-way ticket for the bison - far too

I hope the new Bison will have a longer range.

[garri-lin]

Double the range. To increase the fuel efficiency of engines and to allocate part from 150 tons of cargo to increase the fuel supply.

[petrol cutter]

I heard that Khabarovsk is doing * moray *.
And if this happens, then * Bison * M will produce either * Diamond * or SZ * Sea *. Rather, just divide the series. Since all their life they were produced there. In the third workshop to this day * Greek * as I understand it stands.
I heard about the order for the NW * Sea * in the amount of about five pieces three years ago.
The thing is, we will do six turbines per ship (if I remember correctly) - where are we going to take ?!
And as I understand it, this is the main deterrent through which the dates are not announced.

[kvakin]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Seaworthiness on a hovercraft ?!

Everything that floats or walks in water has seaworthiness, for example, an ekranoplane will not, for example, go on a shaving storm over a 9-point storm, this Bison also needs calm weather of 2-3 points (I don’t really know how much) the slightest change in the worse side, the rain has started or the wind strength has changed and the wave has increased, all the Bison is standing - non-flying weather. Such ships are suitable for the Baltic, Black Sea and Caspian; I doubt it for the rest.

[dima314]

I read about how good this boat is and I admire it ... and then I thought: Cruising range 300 miles. It's like a range of 150 miles ... And where and where are we going to swim? Where to land and why? The Black Sea comes to mind, but there is no one to capture the Turks except ... And in general, who imagines a naval operation with a landing force and 150 miles from its shores in the foreseeable future?

[petrol cutter]

The devil knows him. The military knows best. Why do they build them. Opinions were put forward on refueling these vehicles on the march. Why not? Dviglo will be a new, more economical, again a bonus. Range will grow without options. Now TTX shows a sample of the eighties.
Again, what is hidden under the letter M-I personally do not know. Maybe there the pontoon was doubled in size! And what exactly is the fuel in it?!. The devil knows him. When we respect the construction, then we will understand that, why, hockey with the ball (as one of our welders says).

[Laksamana besar]

Seen close in Crimea in 80's, impressive. It seems they were going to resume production at the beginning of the 2020's, but so far, silence.

[storm]

The main task of the landing ships is not to storm foreign shores, but to quickly transfer military units, equipment, ammunition, fuel to their island and coastal territories ... to organize reliable defense and maneuver with reserves.
The forces of our marines will not be enough for anything else, everything was cut and "optimized" ...