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In Ukraine, they decided on a large-scale reconstruction of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam. The life of the Dnieper hydroelectric station during the conversion should be extended for another 50 years. This is written by Ukrainian media with reference to the Director General of Ukrhydroenergo Igor Sirota.

It was decided to reconstruct the dam of the Dnieper hydroelectric station. Currently, technical expertise and project development are underway, the work itself should begin in two years. The main crossing should be a bridge crossing over the dam, the existing console-type crossing will be replaced, according to plans, with a two-level crossing. It is assumed that after the reconstruction the dam resource will be extended for another 50 years.

Today, together with foreign partners, we carry out a technical examination and then we will decide what measures should be taken to extend the life of the dam for 50 years

- said Sirota, adding that Ukrhydroenergo will finance the work, the final amount will be announced after the end of the examination.

Since the days of the USSR, the supporting structure of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam has never been modernized or strengthened. According to the standards of technical supervision, its operational resource was exhausted in the 2007 year. Recall that at the beginning of this year, the movement of heavy trucks was prohibited on the dam. The reason is the destruction of the road surface and the poor condition of the Dnieper Dam.

Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station named after IN AND. Lenin (Dneproges) is a large hydroelectric power station in the south of Ukraine, located on the Dnieper River in Zaporozhye, the fifth stage of the cascade of Ukrainian hydroelectric power stations. The first phase of the hydroelectric power station was built in the 1927-1932 years, the ceremonial start-up was made on October 10 1932 year. During the Great Patriotic War, part of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam was destroyed. The power plant was completely restored by the 1950 year. In the framework of decommunization in Ukraine, the inscription "DneproGES named after Lenin" at the entrance to the dam was dismantled in 2016.

Comments

[Magic archer]

The main thing is to invite professionals! And do not let the theft of money !!! Otherwise, such a reconstruction could end in disaster !!! Knowing how to repair EVERYTHING in Ukraine, it becomes scary for people ...

[777-3-59-97]

The main thing is to invite professionals! And do not let the theft of money !!! Otherwise, such a reconstruction could end in disaster !!! Knowing how to repair EVERYTHING in Ukraine, it becomes scary for people ...

Change Ukraine to Russia and the meaning will not change

For people living in this house is not scary?

[Magic archer]

Just do not need all in a row under one comb! We are building and modernizing that something happens, such as a nuclear power plant, and something does not work out of course. But in Ukraine there are no positive examples at all, from the word at all! So catch a well-deserved minus !!!

[777-3-59-97]

But in Ukraine there are no positive examples at all, from the word at all!

Well, of course. According to Kisel-TV, they don’t talk about it.

[gurzuf]

In place of this phrase, it would be better what example they gave and then they would not refer to "Kisel-TV".

[Shurik70]

Where it is possible to control the financial flow, everything turns out.
For example, the park of culture and recreation in Kharkov "Sarzhin Yar".
Any city would not refuse such. Very beautifully and thoughtfully done. Unique playgrounds for children, bike paths, landscape design. The designer was a genius, and all this was brought to life.
But, of course, this does not apply to military projects in Ukraine. Too much money. And those who feed on this field will not allow them to interfere with stealing

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Kissel TV, is that where Yevgeny Kiselyov works, guessed?

[Alex_You]

If you do not see positive examples, then this is your problem.

[Geo]

Quote: Magic Archer

in Ukraine

Stop mocking the Russian language!

[svp67]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Change Ukraine to Russia and the meaning will not change

And if you change it to Britain, then in general it will turn out to be "highlighted like". And what clever wanted to say?

[777-3-59-97]

And what did they want to say smart?

Sense to say something clever flock of Ukrainian haters?
Already a dozen comments were thrown along the lines of "everything, khan." And on what basis? FIG knows. Probably just because Ukraine.
For some reason, I think that everything will be fine with the dam. This is probably because I am not such a supermind as adherents of Kissel and nightingale litter.

[svp67]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Already a dozen comments were thrown along the lines of "everything, khan." And on what basis?

Yes, unfortunately there is a reason. Ukraine, over the past five years has given so many reasons that my mother does not worry. This is a mess with their nuclear power plants, when there was less than a day before the new Chernobyl, they had to put out their pride and call the developers of the unit to Moscow so that they would fly by and fly the reactor. They don’t talk about this much, and our people are silent from false modesty, so why denigrate the reactors. Only now, the former Deputy Minister of Energy of Ukraine said this.
The condition of the roads, I'm sorry, but in Yekaterinburg more roads are being made and repaired than in all of Ukraine. I declare this responsibly, as I was in Ukraine a couple of months ago. The airport of a large regional city, the Dnieper, produces four flights a day ... this is generally horrifying for me, remembering how intensively it was used in the USSR. Railways and mobile transport ... this is beyond words. But for all this, they allotted a lot of money, and where are they?

Quote: 777-3-59-97

This is probably because I am not such a supermind as adherents of Kissel

Is that what you call Kiselev, an avid propagandist? That's right, there is nothing for this type to listen to, as he moved to Ukraine and was blown away ...

[Winnie76]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

For some reason, I think that everything will be fine with the dam. This is probably because I am not such a supermind as adherents of Kissel and nightingale litter.

Yes, of course it’s normal. They will paint it under an embroidered shirt, put a fork on top and calm down. Money is needed for reconstruction, but there is no need for pots to supply electricity. The industry collapsed, and the smartphone is charged - you can pedal

[4ekist]

Kissel is more inclined to hang noodles on the ears of the layman. This is democracy.

[begemot20091]

Of course, why about Ukraine: Russia is to blame for everything
https://glavred.info/politics/404585-ges-dneprovskogo-kaskada-ili-mina-zamedlennogo-deystviya.html

[Trevis]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

For some reason, I think that everything will be fine with the dam.

And will everything be in order with the Kiev Dam too?

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Sense to say something clever flock of Ukrainian haters?

Right! Everyone does not give the poor squalid lives.

[Den717]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Already a dozen comments were thrown along the lines of "everything, khan." And on what basis? FIG knows. Probably just because Ukraine.

Here is the basis for you:
"..... In 2019, payments will increase to $ 5 billion, including servicing - up to $ 1,6 billion. $ 1,6 billion should go to repay the principal debt to IFIs, and $ 1,7 billion to holders of Eurobonds. dollars, creditor countries - 0,2 billion dollars.
According to the schedule, external payments peaked in 2020: interest - $ 1,5 billion, MFIs - $ 1,8 billion, Eurobonds - $ 2,4 billion, official loans - $ 0,2 billion.
Over the next three years, external debt spending will gradually decrease: 2021 - $ 5 billion, 2022 - $ 4,1 billion and 2023 - $ 4 billion ... "
At the same time, a multi-billion deficit in the pension fund. But in Ukraine, mind you, there is no national welfare fund, as in the Russian Federation. And the deficit will be extinguished by simple non-payment of pensions to someone. Therefore, I have quite reasonable doubts about the implementation of repair plans. After all, it’s not only the carriageway on the dam body that needs to be changed, but it’s time to send the generating equipment itself to the scrap metal. The hydroelectric power station cannot cope with its profit. Yes, under debt restructuring agreements, all that over 4% of GDP growth should go to creditors. Do you have reason for optimism? What kind?

[Brturin]

Quote: Den717

Over the next three years, external debt spending will gradually decline.

in order to reduce it is necessary to give and not to borrow new ones, but for now, during July 2019, the total amount of public debt increased by $ 2 billion, and from the beginning of the year - by $ 4 billion. Let's see, by the end of the year

[Den717]

Quote: BrTurin

that would be reduced it is necessary to give and not to take new ones,

This I quoted from the article of the Finnish analytics of 2018, where the plans born last year were indicated. Today, plans are no longer being implemented. There is no reason to hope that they will be implemented in the future. That is why I express my reasonable (as it seems to me) doubts about the plans of Ukrainians for the restoration of the Dnieper hydroelectric station. It should be added here that the cabinet of ministers has not yet shown their skills in making money or in the progress of the economic life of their country.

[210ox]

On the basis of what?! Yes, because Ukraine and Russia can no longer be compared ..

[Incvizitor]

And on the basis of what?

Yes, they make everything from vna and sticks on this at least, they and Crimea almost "returned" to the ruins of Russia, as after the war, ruins are everywhere, there are no normal roads, some streets in cities were without consecration.

[Incvizitor]

Let's compare bridges for example: Podolsky bridge crossing The total length of 7,5 km, has been under construction since 1993.

Russia, Crimean bridge: It is long 19 km 2016, has been operating since 2018 ...

[stels_07]

They didn’t pick up a house there, but a heater from the outside, but still, the view is not very

[Mikhail Tynda]

New Urengoy. Do not be lazy and look at least on the Internet the history of this photo.

[begemot20091]

The foundation has sagged, so what? Novy Urengoy is built on swamps. On January 30, the miracle froze: -44, in December it was warmer - 43. In Ukraine, at -5, snot shook his fist. Average salary. 60 thousand. In "native" Kirovograd (shchob yogo hat traffic) 8 thousand UAH = 16000 rubles. The passenger traffic of N. Urengoy airport is one million people. Kirovograd - Today the Kirovograd airport does not exist as an integral organization. The air terminal is owned by the URGA MAAK. The runway suitable for flights is owned by the State Flight Academy. The public enterprise "Airport Kirovograd" owns a taxiway for taxiing planes and several administrative buildings. The runway is in need of renovation. So ... The house will be renovated. People will earn money and leave for the "mainland"

[dmmyak40]

It recalls some airports after the collapse of Aeroflot and the USSR: the flight squad is one organization, ATB with transportation is another, and the ATS is the third.
In Tbilisi, in the year since 1993, the Tu-154 was unable to raise the front strut on take-off and as a result rolled out of the runway. It turned out that the airport cargo terminal is an independent organization and they simply did not give the crew a centering schedule, and the crew did not demand anything. The result is a very, very large excess of the maximum take-off mass and extremely forward alignment.

[Alex Justice]

Sagged the foundation, so what? New Urengoy is built on swamps.

You think the foundation sank and the house can collapse at any moment. The architect did not know that the house was built on swamps. It happens.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Change Ukraine to Russia and the meaning will not change

No, well, Ukraine to Russia with some stretch can be changed, of course. But changing a hefty strategic facility that affects half of the country, changing it to a small house is somehow ... stoned or something ...

[Mik13]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

For people living in this house is not scary?

No, not scary.
The house is built on pile foundation. Both the foundation and the house on it have not shifted anywhere.

Just after building the house, the soil near it sank a little. It is on this soil that the decorative base, which also sagged, rests.
Most often this happens in permafrost areas.

But for hype fotochka will do.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Mik13

the decorative base, which also sagged, rests on this soil.

Damn, I couldn’t understand everything - how the foundation sank without pulling the soil and the asphalt blind, the cracks did not appear directly near the foundation, why the house remained horizontal when the foundation squinted ...

[Far East]

respected! I agree with you! sho there, sho here!

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

If exchanged for Russia, then we get the Crimean bridge, if back to Ukraine, then Zaporizhzhya is unfinished, the difference is obvious, but apparently not for you

[Geo]

Quote: 777-3-59-97

Change Ukraine to Russia

With hydraulic engineering, by the way, in Russia so far everything is better than anywhere else. The enormous experience gained during the Union affects it.
Yes, we had a big accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric station - but this is a consequence of improper operation, builders / designers have nothing to do with it. In contrast, for example, from the same accidents at the Orovill HPP in the USA, where the direct cause is errors and miscalculations of design / construction.
Trying to "cure" the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station without us, Ukraine will lose money and gain inadequate quality, which may eventually turn into a real disaster.

[cormorant]

Follow the link https://ruxpert.ru/Large_Russian_projects_ (under construction). Then find something similar in Ukraine. You will not find. They don’t have anything at all! Maximum build somewhere roads and new LCDs. All! No need to compare an elephant with a sparrow. By the way, even on the LCD, we are building an order of magnitude more.

[Sky strike fighter]

Yes you are. They are not like Russia. They have the same words with deeds never diverge.

It is very nice to show such a good result. But I think that we need to take this calmly. We are not Russia, which beat Scotland and tells everyone that it will take the Euro.

https://m.sport-express.ru/football/euro/2020/news/roman-yaremchuk-sbornaya-ukrainy-ne-rossiya-kotoraya-obygrala-shotlandiyu-i-vsem-rasskazyvaet-chto-vozmet-evro-1598640/?_escaped_fragment_=

[Gray brother]

Quote: Magic Archer

The main thing is to invite professionals!

All professionals lay tiles in Moscow.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Magic Archer

The main thing is to invite professionals! And do not let the theft of money !!!

And Remove the inscription "DneproGES named after Lenin"

[TermNachTer]

It has long been removed and the Order torn.

[TermNachTer]

Better not. Due to the repair of the roadway, the city stood in traffic jams for many months. If they start a major overhaul, then it's even scary to think.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: TermNachTER

If they start a major overhaul, then it's even scary to think.

Who will pay and who is the contractor. If "zabugor" then quickly, and if yours, then unpredictable, but long.

[TermNachTer]

Fast - is it lope? Here, three months was enough for people to go crazy. We walked from the Right Bank to the Left on foot, it turned out faster than by car.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: TermNachTER

Three months were enough

I realized that I needed a "overhaul", so this is for a year or two.

[TermNachTer]

Then it is better to move from Zaporozhye to some other city, or to look for work on your shore.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: TermNachTER

Then it’s better to move from Zaporozhye to some other city,

I rested on the island of Khortytsya at the beginning of the 70 years, when there was a village and the Dnieper. No Caucasus or Crimea was needed. Everything flows and it only gets worse .;

[TermNachTer]

They are there now. Nothing changes, only the standard of living is getting worse. The USSR is almost fairy tales. When I tell my daughter, she does not believe that it was. I love to ride about. Baida, there is a Zaporizhstal recreation center, a wonderful place.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Magic Archer

The main thing is to invite professionals!

that's for sure! but where do you get them? the last professional builder Yaytsenyuh fled to the US ... and what wall was built! everyone envy!

[Olegater]

Good morning, dear forum users !!!!

I see two options here:
1. Or during the reconstruction, everyone and everyone will be flooded !!!!!
2. When planning and allocating funds, everything is ready!

They can’t do anything, they’ll only ruin it. Let it be better, it will be stronger.

[antivirus]

they will succeed ... the import of cigarette butts from Europe will be adjusted and trampled on

[Olegater]

Thank you dear antivirus!!! Good morning!!!!!
Exactly, the main thing is that the cigarette butts were from Holland !!!!! There additives in the butts are first-class !!!!!

[antivirus]

surprised by +7 and -7, and read even more.
so much attention to "butts"

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Olegater

Let it be better, it will be stronger.

problem with that. for a couple of years it’s not really worth it somehow. the year before last, it was forbidden to ride on it because it was falling apart ...

[novel66]

sorry for the dam ... maybe you would live again?

[Amurets]

Quote: novel xnumx

sorry for the dam ... maybe you would live again?

"Within the framework of decommunization in Ukraine, the inscription" DneproGES im. Lenin "at the entrance to the dam was dismantled in 2016." They would have left an inscription, as if I would have lived. "Ukrainian media write about this with reference to the general director of Ukrhydroenergo Igor Sirota." And the name of the general director speaks for itself, and DniproHES will remain an orphan.

[novel66]

and after all, they built with the whole world ...

[CAT BAIYUN]

Kapets construction .... This is Ukraine, baby ....

[Brturin]

Quote: KOT BYUN

Kapets construction .... This is Ukraine, baby ..

no matter how they ruin the river itself ... "The Dnieper River practically lost its ability to purify itself ... In the 3rd quarter of the year, 36 water samples were taken from the Kremenchug reservoir, in which more than 30 indicators characterizing its quality were determined. phenols exceed the maximum permissible concentration (MPC) by 3-6 times, and the concentration of heavy metals (copper, zinc, manganese, iron) by 1,4-5 times. Indicators of chemical oxygen consumption, which are 2,3 times higher than the permissible norm "
The Dnieper is wonderful in calm weather, when it freely and smoothly rushes through its forests and mountains full of its waters

[CAT BAIYUN]

no matter how they ruined the river itself ...

Here I am about the same. With such a mess in the country will be able to ditch the river.

[svp67]

In Ukraine, they decided on a large-scale reconstruction of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam.

As it’s already scary ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

As it’s already scary ...

It's time to get used to it, it's Ukraine.

[svp67]

Quote: tihonmarine

It's time to get used to it, it's Ukraine.

And still scary

[tihonmarine]

Quote: svp67

And still scary

I do not argue.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: svp67

As it’s already scary ...

It's time to get used to it, it's Ukraine.

I read that the "tsunami" estimate after the explosion of the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station during the Second World War was greatly overestimated and the wave height did not exceed 1-2 meters. So, if the dam collapses gradually, then the maximum that will happen is the shallowing of the Dnieper above the dam.

[svp67]

Quote: Avis-bis

I read that the "tsunami" estimate after the explosion of the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station during the Second World War was greatly overestimated and the wave height did not exceed 1-2 meters.

There, the peak was a couple of kilometers from the foot of the dam, and those who lived near the coast suffered. Further, a wave, albeit a "small" 1-2 meters descending, demolished our crossings, many of our soldiers died and suffered. And the worst thing happened in the place where the Dnieper flows into the sea. There was a flood in the floodplains, our soldiers fled in the trees, and the Germans shot them like in a shooting range, having fun ... they did not take prisoners

Quote: Avis-bis

So, if the dam will collapse gradually, then the maximum that will happen is the shallowing of the Dnieper above the dam.

You are an adult, you must understand that at some point, "gradual destruction" turns into an avalanche stream ... which cannot be stopped. Remember the disaster at the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power station.
Here is a video of what happens when a five-meter dam breaks through, and at DneproGES, by the way, the difference is 37 meters

[Mordvin 3]

I read something like fiction about the breakthrough of the Dnieper hydroelectric station. And life after this disaster. I don’t know how much the author in the dams understands, but what he wrote is creepy. There should be a lot of victims. I forgot the name.

[Orkraider]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

I read something like fiction about the breakthrough of the Dnieper hydroelectric station. And life after this disaster. I don’t know how much the author in the dams understands, but what he wrote is creepy. There should be a lot of victims. I forgot the name.

Jan Valetov. No one’s land.
I read it as a fantasy, and I would very much like it to remain with it. God forbid this in reality!

[KCA]

I don’t know what tsunamis are there, our reservoir level is raised by 11 +/- meters, the dam is in the middle of the city, during the times of the USSR the civil defense instructor said that with the complete destruction of the dam at the same time, the maximum level of flooding will be reached in 12 hours

[Ross xnumx]

But what about the demolition of all the monuments of the Soviet era? There are so many names tied up ... Let them think, it’s better to demolish ... Radicals are being asked ... This is the nest of the socialist era in the center of the country ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ROSS 42

This is the nest of the socialist era in the center of the country ...

Yes, take a dismantle station and let there be a free river (as they now call it, I don’t know).

[reservist]

on the Dnieper is a cascade of hydroelectric power stations

[tihonmarine]

Quote: reservist

on the Dnieper is a cascade of hydroelectric power stations

And remove the entire cascade as a legacy of communism.

[Alex_You]

Dneproges incidentally, the Americans built. On Dneprges-1, American turbines are still working.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alex_You

Dneproges incidentally, the Americans built. On Dneprges-1, American turbines are still working.

Well, during the invasion of the USSR DneproGES was destroyed during the retreat?

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Alex_You

Dneproges incidentally, the Americans built.

And sho? The decision was made and funded by the Union, the Americans acted as wage workers. Or did they themselves want and build, and then donate to the USSR? DneproGES is the Soviet legacy on all counts.
However, who am I here ... You there and the purely Soviet "Antonov ANTK" consider exclusively a Ukrainian design bureau and plant. And O. K. Antonova is a Ukrainian. I suppose you have a Ukrainian Shakhatuni too? I’m not asking about the Mohyla Academy, I don’t care that Mohyla was a Romanian ...

[Nyrobsky]

As part of decommunization in Ukraine, the inscription "DniproHES named after Lenin" at the entrance to the dam was dismantled in 2016.

For a quarter of a century, the decommunizers themselves have not built Nicherta, they can only decommunize. It was necessary to mount this inscription on such a pin, which would tear out which, this whole structure collapsed. Sorry did not provide.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Nyrobsky

The decommunisers themselves did not build a nicert square in a quarter century

Nicho you nipanimaite. S t.z. formal logic, destruction is creation with a minus sign (well, as a pit is a mound with a minus sign). So the demolition of the poster is also a form of construction. Nenuacho? Money spent, equipment and man-hours involved. That is, labor is invested.

[Greg Miller]

And why is Ukrainian decommunization so serious about Russian de-Stalinization?

[Okolotochny]

Here are people like you and begin. Have you carefully listened to speeches on the audit of the legislative framework of Russia? All laws, decrees, orders, standards, etc.? There are times when acts of the times of the USSR are duplicated by others. There are times when they contradict each other. Again, one and the other act. And when is this collection of documents superimposed on business activities?

[Duck]

Or maybe before you bred liberalism about this, you would even bother to clarify that this decree provided for not only an 8-hour working day, but 6 day work week. But the main thing is to throw on the fan.

[rotmistr60]

In recent years, Ukraine has announced a lot of things, but what has it actually accomplished besides the shelling of Donbass? They will talk and forget, especially since such a reconstruction requires a lot of money. And in this case, the slogan "Abroad will help us" does not work, unless the hydroelectric power station is returned for debts.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

And in this case, the slogan "Abroad will help us" does not work, unless the hydroelectric power station is returned for debts.

It is likely that abroad (read America) is investing in modernization money that Ukraine will not be able to return and the station is transferred to the hands of investors. The usual option.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: rotmistr60

And in this case, the slogan "Abroad will help us" does not work, unless the hydroelectric power station is returned for debts.

It is likely that abroad (read America) is investing in modernization money that Ukraine will not be able to return and the station is transferred to the hands of investors. The usual option.

The United States does not invest a cent in the gas transportation system of Ukraine, because they understand that this pipe will simply remain a pipe without filling with Russian gas. Why do they need such a risky asset that promises nothing but losses?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nyrobsky

US does not invest a cent in Ukrainian GTS

In the GTS definitely, they consider money well. But the hydroelectric power station will still bring money, so that you can invest money, and then squeeze the station.

[Avis-bis]

The main alteration should be a bridge crossing over the dam. It is assumed that after the reconstruction the dam resource will be extended for another 50 years.

What is it - they believe that the main load from the water column is kept by this crossing? Repair its problem, basically solved, the dam itself, in principle, can be declared a minor priority in the repair?

[Undecim]

What is it - they believe that the main load from the water column is kept by this crossing?
It is they who write the news. It is about the reconstruction of the bridge crossing. Nobody is going to touch the dam itself.

[rocket757]

Do not do ??? Yes FIG knows.
Do we have to worry about that. We also have a lot to do, this is in addition to what is already being done. We are big problems above the roof!

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If only this would not make platinum worse, from their large-scale reconstruction or, as usual, reconstruction will take place only on paper.

[stels_07]

Itself will not pull, either China or the west, in any case, it will no longer be a Ukrainian hydropower plant

[tihonmarine]

Quote: stels_07

in any case, it will no longer be a Ukrainian hydroelectric power station

Something like this, no doubt. Who pays and dances with the bride.

[Alexey-74]

If only they didn’t flood the floor of Europe .............

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alexey-74

If only they didn’t flood the floor of Europe ..

And again, as in a joke about a grenade.

[HAM]

"..... Today we are together with foreign partners ...."

Here is the main message: someone will help ... But for some reason they do not remember about foreign "Varangians" who destroyed the railway, medicine, industry ...
For whatever the "partners" will undertake, this is kraty ...

[aszzz888]

While they gather in unnecessary - the structure will fall apart.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rocket757

Do not do ??? Yes FIG knows.

That's for sure, it's time to forget about the Ukrainian problems. The USSR is over and there are common problems with it. Now everyone has their own shirt closer to the body.

[thinker]

The main alteration should be a bridge crossing over the dam ...

And we missed a lot of interesting things -

On October 14, officially opened the movement at a road crossing over the dam of the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station ... Work continued from August and cost about 100 million hryvnias ... the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station dam can work for another 2, maximum 3 years. After that, it should be closed for large-scale reconstruction. During this time, the city needs to build bridge crossings over the Dnieper River. The total construction cost was estimated at 12-15 billion hryvnia.

[Avis-bis]

Quote: thinker

12-15 billion hryvnia.

Wow. Yes, against the "pathetic" 100 million. it's such a fat piece ...
And interestingly:

DneproGES dam can operate for another 2, maximum 3 years. After that, it should be closed for large-scale reconstruction. During this time, the city needs to build bridge crossings over the Dnieper River.

No, well, in theory, bridges can be built in 2-3 years. In West. Europe or China. But in the ex-USSR ... Do they intend to do pontoon crossings there?

[boriz]

Rjunimagu! Hyperlope Foreva!
Understand the bridge in the Dnieper, have it repaired or not?
And in the budget for 2020. donated money for the pension of Donbass. The debt is already over 80 billion UAH. exceeded. Donbass gathered to return. So it is with DneproGES. One chatter.

[Dzafdet]

So the thick polar fox came. While the project, while back and forth, the dam will fall apart and there will be a big bad boom ...

[Bookcase]

In order to - to make complex, technology-intensive projects - you need to have skilled specialists. In Ukraine - they are either still jumping, or having calmed down, moved to Russia. You can certainly invite the Chinese or Turks, but they do not do charity work. It’s free for Ukraine, only the Americans vparivayut their old military scrap metal, so as not to dispose of themselves :-)

[Homer_J_Simpson]

Author! But how has this never been modernized in Soviet times? If it was built in 1927, partially destroyed in 1941, and restored by 1950?

[Avior]

Not to mention the fact that Dneprges-2 was built in the 70s-80s

When recovering from January to August 1944, sappers removed 66 tons of bombs and explosives, 26 thousand mines, shells and grenades from the dam’s body [57].
...

In 1946, the American company General Electric delivered new generators for the Dnieper hydroelectric station to replace those destroyed during the war .... After the war, the first hydraulic unit was turned on in March 1947, and the last in May 1950.

In 1947-1973, the chief engineer of the Dnieper hydroelectric station was Anatoly Yakovlev; under Yakovlev, reconstruction and improvement of the main and auxiliary equipment was carried out, which made it possible to increase the reliability and efficiency of the hydropower plant. The capacity of the restored Dneproges exceeded the pre-war by 16% and amounted to 650 thousand kW. Complex mechanization and automation of production processes that took place in the 1950-1960s. under the leadership of A. F. Yakovlev, she improved the qualifications of personnel, halved operational personnel and increased the overhaul period of hydraulic units to 6-8 years. [59]
... In 1997-2002, the first was carried out, and in 2006 the second phase of the reconstruction of the Dnieper cascade of hydroelectric power stations was launched, which also included the reconstruction of equipment of the Dnieper hydroelectric station. [60] In 2008, reconstruction of the machine rooms of the station began. The Kharkov enterprise Turboatom replaced 6 turbines of a propeller type with a turbine of a rotary vane type PL 40-V-700 with a rated capacity of 115 MW and an impeller diameter of 7 m and weight of about 500 tons at DneproGES II. A rotary vane turbine is designed to increase the reliability of a hydroturbine installation, the amount of generated electricity, and can be used in a wider range of heads and loads.

Such facilities operate with ongoing maintenance and modernization.

[Avior]

The main crossing should be a bridge crossing over the dam, the existing console-type crossing will be replaced, according to plans, with a two-level crossing. It is assumed that after the reconstruction the dam resource will be extended for another 50 years.

Porridge in the article, to be honest.
The road does not go along the dam itself, but along the bridge over it.
This is the reconstruction of this bridge. The bridge crossing has nothing to do with the dam itself, its reliability, condition and other things, and everything is in order with the dam itself, no problems.
The problem is in the traffic interchange, the traffic flow has increased significantly, and new bridges in Zaporozhye have been building for twenty years already ...
Interestingly, before these de-communist renames in Ukraine, the dam has recently been the most Leninist place in the world.
If you drive in Zaporozhye from the right bank of the Dnieper to the left, from the Leninsky district along the Dneproges dam named after Lenin, Lenin’s lake with Lenin’s island visible on it is left, Lenin’s square with the famous Lenin’s monument, and Lenin Avenue dear to the port of Lenin.
However, it would be more correct now to write "was" ...

[den3080]

In 404 they just didn’t announce during the time of independence: a peermog to a peremog.
wuxi announcements poheril ... well, you know who ...
and the paramogues turned into hardships, worn down to the rest, including the last election of clown Ze.

[yehat]

Since the days of the USSR, the supporting structure of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam has never been modernized or strengthened.

it's some kind of thrash! Well, why lie so?
the first 3 years, DneproGES was constantly strengthened and after such work was carried out several times.
during the construction of the hydropower plant, Portland cement was sorely lacking, which is why they used the usual and
the concrete structure turned out to be short-lived, and during the Soviet era a significant part of the dam was gradually redone. After the spring floods and the war, the dam was seriously repaired at least 3 times.

[faterdom]

As Vladimir Vladimirovich wrote (not this one, that one, old one) on the same occasion: "... in four years there will be a garden city here!"

[Aliken]

Wouldn’t they want to dismantle the dam itself and build a new one? The dam is communist, is there no harm here?

[Archivist Vasya]

Beautiful dam, it was necessary to repair it for a long time. But for the fact that they demolished the Soviet symbols insulting.

[sgr291158]

All the end of the dam, break will break and do not do. And again we will be to blame.

[Agronom]

In Ukraine, they decided on a large-scale reconstruction of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam

It would be better if the lads did not touch this dam built by the Soviet Union ... I smell genes and they will blame Russia ..

[Boozer]

For the restoration of DneproGES Brezhnev L.I. got his first well-deserved Hero of Socialist Labor. He was then the first leader of the region ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: thinker

The total construction cost was estimated at 12-15 billion hryvnia.

And where will Ukraine find the lard bucks?

[mark021105]

Since the days of the USSR, the supporting structure of the Dnieper hydroelectric dam has never been modernized or strengthened.

So they would not touch, away from sin ...

[APASUS]

Decommunize it, even dig out the remains of the foundation from the earth! It is not good for Bender’s heirs to use the communist project.

[Mic1969]

“We are the new house management of our house,” black spoke in a restrained rage. - I am Shvonder, she is Vyazemskaya, he is Comrade Pestrukhin and Sharovkin. And here we are ...
“Did they inspire you in Fyodor Pavlovich Sablin’s apartment?”
“Us,” said Schwonder.
“God, the Kalabukhov house has disappeared!” Philippe Filippovich exclaimed in despair and threw up his hands. (WITH)

[Silver Fox]

Quote: Magic Archer

The main thing is to invite professionals!

You can invite. there the price tag put up a couple of yards. everything is complicated and deplorable there. a mistake was made at the beginning of construction. it’s easier to demolish and probably build a new one

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: gurzuf

In place of this phrase, it would be better what example they gave and then they would not refer to "Kisel-TV".

Great success. Visa-free. 10 million non-profit citizens chased abroad to earn money. Success in the economy on the face. (will be soon)

And this despite the fact that the average salary is three times less than the average Russian.

[Metallurg_2]

Demolish her and all business! This is the legacy of a totalitarian regime!