“We will accept Georgia in NATO, but we don’t know when” - Secretary General Stoltenberg

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During the NATO parliamentary assembly, a discussion emerged about the admission of new members to the North Atlantic military bloc. Among other things, we were talking about the Georgian version.


Georgian troops during exercises




During the assembly, the representative of the Slovenian delegation asked the Secretary General of NATO whether the situation with the admission of Georgia to the military bloc is permitted, and if so, when will Georgia be admitted to NATO?

Stoltenberg began by noting the completion of NATO’s accession of Macedonia (recently this former republic of Yugoslavia changed its name to Northern Macedonia because of Greece’s position). Turning to the topic of Georgia, Stoltenberg was never able to move on to the specifics.

The Secretary General of the North Atlantic Alliance announced that Georgia "will become a member of NATO, but this entry has not been agreed upon in time."

Jens Stoltenberg:

We are supporting Georgia in terms of modernizing its defense capabilities. We clearly state at all meetings that Georgia will become a member of NATO. But we do not yet know when this will happen. We do not have a time frame for Georgia in this regard. Answering a question, I say that we are now working with Georgia. We now have more representatives in Georgia than ever before.

Meanwhile, NATO noted that Georgia itself could be a problem for NATO and the alliance’s rules. Georgia’s admission to NATO will either result in Tbilisi having to finally and officially abandon its claims on Abkhazia and South Ossetia, or in provocation, during which NATO will try to drag one of its members into an armed conflict.
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  1. +1
    15 October 2019 07: 59
    It would be better if tourists were brought to Georgia.
    And that’s all Nato-nato ...
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 08: 04
      Georgian troops
      These words alone are already in awe! lol lol
      1. +5
        15 October 2019 08: 23
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        “We will accept Georgia in NATO, but we don’t know when” - Secretary General Stoltenberg

        and if the missile defense is stuck there? nothing good.
        1. +2
          15 October 2019 08: 34
          Quote: Aerodrome
          and if the missile defense is stuck there? nothing good.

          What for? And in general, MOUNTAINS, it’s even expensive to make air defense there ....
          However, everything is possible for network structures, but it is very expensive.
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 08: 36
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        These words alone are already in awe! lol lol

        Do you think it’s impossible to make a good army of Georgians?
        1. +10
          15 October 2019 08: 37
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          These words alone are already in awe! lol lol

          Do you think it’s impossible to make a good army of Georgians?

          and from the Arabs?
        2. +4
          15 October 2019 08: 39
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          good army?

          It is impossible ... Not that mentality.
        3. +3
          15 October 2019 08: 42
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          These words alone are already in awe! lol lol

          Do you think it’s impossible to make a good army of Georgians?

          They tried the USA, it doesn’t work. 2008 showed it.
        4. +4
          15 October 2019 09: 02
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Do you think it’s impossible to make a good army of Georgians?

          Anyway, it will turn out to be a choir, maybe even a good one, for an amateur.
        5. -1
          15 October 2019 10: 57
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          Do you think it’s impossible to make a good army of Georgians?

          Perhaps, but NATO is unlikely to succeed ...
          By the way! Georgia will have to forget about the land route to Europe - only through Turkey ... crying
      3. 0
        15 October 2019 10: 16
        Look at the photos, they are cloned!
    2. 0
      15 October 2019 08: 18
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      It would be better if tourists were brought to Georgia.
      And that’s all Nato-nato ...

      There are tourists and all the nasty things from them. There’s something in the secret laboratory
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 08: 35
        Quote: FenH
        In a secret laboratory, something chemists

        But this is "relevant" and the first goal, for "disinfection-disintegration", if sho!
        1. +1
          15 October 2019 08: 37
          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: FenH
          In a secret laboratory, something chemists

          But this is "relevant" and the first goal, for "disinfection-disintegration", if sho!

          Yes, plus a couple in Ukraine
          1. +3
            15 October 2019 08: 44
            It would have been nice to clean out all the laboratories near our borders, and then shake the UN tags with all kinds of guano mold !!!
            That would be a high-class policy and real opposition!
            Look, the "chosen ones" are constantly rolling a barrel .... and they are engaged in cleaning around their borders, usually! It's not a very useless exercise, if that!
            1. +1
              15 October 2019 09: 16
              Quote: rocket757
              It would have been nice to clean out all the laboratories near our borders, and then shake the UN tags with all kinds of guano mold !!!
              That would be a high-class policy and real opposition!
              Look, the "chosen ones" are constantly rolling a barrel .... and they are engaged in cleaning around their borders, usually! It's not a very useless exercise, if that!

              It would be nice to break such a test tube there
              1. 0
                15 October 2019 09: 33
                Quote: Vol4ara
                It would be nice to break such a test tube there

                No, no, too close ....
                We have already passed this recently. Feel the stench around the clock from the burned pork carcasses, the pleasure is lower than the bottom, believe an eyewitness. Who knows what infection there is being bred, brrrr.
                BURN, all at once and in place!
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 10: 14
        What would the USA do if such laboratories appeared nearby in Mexico?
    3. +14
      15 October 2019 09: 22
      We have just traveled through Georgia to Armenia within the framework of the Great Victory Unites Nations project. They let it go one way - no back. And they were banned from entering this American colony forever - the reason - we are 4 people Afghan veterans. So I do not advise anyone to travel to this and through this territory. You can become the subject of provocation at any time. Let them drink their own wine, let them run through their mountains and swim on their seashore. In the North Caucasus, we have everything that is, and even better, of better quality and more beautiful. So I do not advise anyone to go there.
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 09: 38
        Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
        So I do not advise anyone to go there.

        All theirs assurances about the "folk lubov" and all sorts of nishtyaki and beauty is .... tfu!
        Let yourself clean up yourself. Well, they independently choose those who then spoils everything, their own and others.
        "People's diplomacy" always stumbles over the same thing! A bunch of any .... leberds-guano, spoils everyone's life, for sho and gets their "sold" .... but this is THEIR leberd.
        In short, themselves.
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 09: 55
        Hello Vitaly! The Georgian authorities are now aggravating cunning for their masters. Of course, ordinary people are unlikely to support this.
        1. +3
          15 October 2019 10: 02
          Hello! I, too, thought the people one thing - rulers are different. It turned out in practice that the people and the authorities are united in their cunning and meanness. Therefore, I advise all Russians to this territory not a single step. I now do not have the right to visit this territory until the end of my days, well, except on a tank))) fraternal Georgia ended with the collapse of the USSR, now the whole world calls this territory Dzhodzhiya, and citizens - Dzhorzhiks.
    4. 0
      15 October 2019 22: 52
      The USA is the brain of NATO. England - the muscles of NATO. Germany is the heart of NATO .... And Georgia will be a member of NATO!
      1. -1
        15 October 2019 23: 05
        Quote: Fantazer911
        The USA is the brain of NATO. England - the muscles of NATO. Germany is the heart of NATO .... And Georgia will be a member of NATO!

        Yeah. When the cancer on the mountain whistles.
  2. +4
    15 October 2019 08: 03
    If Georgia is admitted to NATO, NATO can be put an end to.
    Indeed, the flag of Georgia contains only crosses. And you yourself put the crosses where .....
    1. 0
      15 October 2019 08: 47
      In fact, the Georgians are already in NATO .. ​​Yes, and this will not lead to the collapse of the alliance. Let's be realistic.
      1. -1
        15 October 2019 11: 01
        Quote: 210ox
        And it won’t lead to the collapse of the alliance. Let’s be realistic.

        Let's! Let's recall the multinational associations and the terms of their existence ... belay
        When the Tower of Babel was being built, they were also going to "shake" the world ...
        Georgia cannot be an enemy for Russia at all - there in the mountains "Borjom" will drown, in case of danger ... lol
  3. +3
    15 October 2019 08: 10
    Donkey and carrot. Classic.
  4. +3
    15 October 2019 08: 11
    Dear comrade Stalin, such a statement turned over in his 10 coffin once.
    1. -1
      15 October 2019 08: 18
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Dear comrade Stalin, such a statement turned over in his 10 coffin once.

      That's for sure. All Georgians had already been sent to Kolyma.
      1. -4
        15 October 2019 08: 34
        You still remember Lenin, it’s because he’s Stalin "wonderful Georgians" to climb to the very top.
        1. -2
          15 October 2019 08: 36
          Quote: Chaldon48
          You still remember Lenin, it’s because he’s Stalin "wonderful Georgians" to climb to the very top.

          Then the revolution !!!
          What did you remember?
  5. 0
    15 October 2019 08: 12
    They will not accept, with territorial problems, they will not accept. Also Ukraine and Moldova.
    1. +1
      15 October 2019 08: 15
      Quote: Nycomed
      They will not accept, with territorial problems, they will not accept. Also Ukraine and Moldova.

      The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. This is a factor of Russophobia, the coefficient of which is lower than that of the triebalt
      1. -2
        15 October 2019 08: 23
        Quote: FenH
        Quote: Nycomed
        They will not accept, with territorial problems, they will not accept. Also Ukraine and Moldova.

        The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. There is a factor of Russophobia, whose coefficient is lower than that of the triebalt

        Bend a little. Greece and Turkey, as it were, relate to the West nevertheless. (West in the general sense of the word)
        I agree about the Baltic states. Russophobia is the basis of their existence.
        1. +1
          15 October 2019 09: 42
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          I agree about the Baltic states. Russophobia is the basis of their existence.

          For politicians, yes, Estonia is running ahead of the mare, but the people don't care about "Shizu on his chime and not a visa".
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 08: 37
        Quote: FenH
        The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless, both countries are in NATO.

        To be honest, I'm not quite in the subject, but didn't the "problems" start when both were already there? And "you just can't leave our casino."
        1. 0
          15 October 2019 08: 46
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          Quote: FenH
          The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless, both countries are in NATO.

          To be honest, I'm not quite in the subject, but didn't the "problems" start when both were already there? And "you just can't leave our casino."

          So, butted for a long time, but specifically in Cyprus, yes, both countries were already in NATO
      3. -2
        15 October 2019 08: 39
        Quote: FenH

        The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. This is a factor of Russophobia, the coefficient of which is lower than that of the triebalt
        First, the conflict arose after both countries joined NATO. Then the problem is inside Cyprus. Greece and Turkey support different sides of the conflict there.
        1. +1
          15 October 2019 08: 52
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: FenH

          The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. This is a factor of Russophobia, the coefficient of which is lower than that of the triebalt
          First, the conflict arose after both countries joined NATO. Then the problem is inside Cyprus. Greece and Turkey support different sides of the conflict there.

          They entered NATO in 1952, and the Istanbul massacre happened in 1955. And from 1974 to 1980 the Greeks did not take part in NATO.
        2. GRF
          +2
          15 October 2019 13: 14
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: FenH

          The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. This is a factor of Russophobia, the coefficient of which is lower than that of the triebalt
          First, the conflict arose after both countries joined NATO. Then the problem is inside Cyprus. Greece and Turkey support different sides of the conflict there.

          that is, if any genocide begins inside NATO, then no one will help the exterminated ... hmmm ...
          cool NATO organization, however ...
      4. -4
        15 October 2019 08: 45
        The Greeks and Turks have no such open problems. And Cyprus is not Greece.
        1. +1
          15 October 2019 08: 54
          Quote: Nycomed
          The Greeks and Turks have no such open problems. And Cyprus is not Greece.

          The talk is not about Cyprus, but about the Istanbul massacre
          Imia Island doesn’t tell you anything? (This concerns open problems)
      5. 0
        15 October 2019 10: 54
        Quote: FenH
        The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. This is a factor of Russophobia, the coefficient of which is lower than that of the triebalt

        They acquired this problem already as part of NATO
        1. 0
          15 October 2019 11: 21
          Quote: ZAV69
          Quote: FenH
          The Greeks and Turks also have problems, and nevertheless both countries are in NATO. This is a factor of Russophobia, the coefficient of which is lower than that of the triebalt

          They acquired this problem already as part of NATO

          And did someone expel from NATO, or intervened when they killed the Greek warriors who were in Istanbul, at NATO headquarters?
          1. -1
            15 October 2019 12: 53
            Quote: FenH
            And did someone expel from NATO, or intervened when they killed the Greek warriors who were in Istanbul, at NATO headquarters?

            And what does the NATO charter say about such incidents? Something seems to me that this is not a line
            1. 0
              15 October 2019 13: 00
              Article 2
              https://www.nato.int/cps/ru/natohq/official_texts_17120.htm
    2. 0
      15 October 2019 08: 35
      Quote: Nycomed
      Will not accept, with territorial problems

      So, there was an offer just now: refuse claims and - to welkam!
      1. -5
        15 October 2019 08: 47
        Quote: Vasyan1971

        So, there was an offer just now: refuse claims and - to welkam!

        It costs a lot. If NATO guarantees Georgia security, then abandoning Abkhazia and Ossetia will be worth it.
        1. +3
          15 October 2019 08: 59
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: Vasyan1971

          So, there was an offer just now: refuse claims and - to welkam!

          It costs a lot. If NATO guarantees Georgia security, then abandoning Abkhazia and Ossetia will be worth it.

          To guarantee, does not mean to fulfill, striped it has already been demonstrated in Syria
        2. +3
          15 October 2019 09: 01
          Show to whom NATO, only not in words, provided security and from whom?
        3. 0
          15 October 2019 11: 08
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          It costs a lot. If NATO guarantees Georgia security, then abandoning Abkhazia and Ossetia will be worth it.

          If the United States guarantees your safety, appoints you a capital, why didn't you leave the Golan Heights? Will it be worth the expensive "squid rings"?
          Do not make yourself arbitrators and arbitrators of NATO - first enter somewhere ...
    3. 0
      15 October 2019 08: 51
      When necessary, they will close their eyes to it. Moreover, according to their language, they have no territorial claims, since it is considered that these "territories are occupied" .. But Estonia has claims, but this does not prevent them from being "members"
      1. 0
        15 October 2019 08: 56
        Having "problems" and having "complaints" are two big differences.
        1. 0
          15 October 2019 10: 39
          Exactly. When joining NATO, one cannot have territorial claims.
          1. 0
            15 October 2019 18: 10
            I repeat once again: Having "problems" and having "complaints" are two big differences.
            1. 0
              15 October 2019 18: 12
              That's what I wrote about. Formally, when joining NATO, it is required to renounce territorial claims. Not "no problem".
  6. +3
    15 October 2019 08: 12
    Quote: prior

    If Georgia is admitted to NATO, NATO can be put an end to.

    No crosses are placed on mass graves, and wives do not cry on them.
  7. +1
    15 October 2019 08: 23
    Well, all the same, partners know how to carry crap with a smart look! good
    At a conscious level, they probably understand that, having joined NATO, Georgia will have to not only arm, but also feed. Because Russia will exert serious economic pressure. And all this for the sake of another disgrace, as in 2008? Do they need it?
    But carrots in front of the face are waving strenuously! Beauties! wassat
  8. +1
    15 October 2019 08: 32
    We clearly state at all meetings that Georgia will become a member of NATO. But we do not yet know when this will happen.

    Classic carrot on a string to motivate the donkey. And when the timid Georgians turn off in joy, something like: "You did not help us in Normandy!" Why, at least 08.08.08 recall: "Do you want to start a war over Georgia?"
    1. +1
      15 October 2019 08: 38
      "Do you want to start a war over Georgia?"
      Yes. "Black Panther" -K. Rise put the question on everyone.
  9. 0
    15 October 2019 08: 43
    It looks like an early Christian tradition: while tormented - then you will go to heaven! Just suffer more painfully there, otherwise nothing will come of it!
  10. -6
    15 October 2019 08: 45
    Quote: Aerodrome

    and from the Arabs?

    No problem. Already in 73, the Egyptians and Syrians fought competently and evil. Today, the Egyptian and Algerian armies in terms of training and combat readiness will not yield to the best armies in Europe. In terms of numbers and armaments with non-conventional weapons, the armies of these two Arab countries cover all the European armies combined.
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 08: 52
      . "Already in 73, the Egyptians and Syrians fought competently and evil."
      Believe it yourself ?! If not for the help of the USSR, the Egyptians would "have fought."
      For example, read the story of M. Weller "Ryzhik". Well, the episode about that war is very convincingly written. As the Israelis shouted the Russians to surrender, in response to pure Arabic, the Arabs do not surrender. What followed was something we don't know how the Arabs are fighting.
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 09: 06
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        Do you believe it yourself ?! If not

        That's for sure .... for some reason, our "tourists" did not like the local armies, except for the Israeli army, to say the least.
        There are exceptions that are insignificant and only confirming general indicators.
    2. +1
      15 October 2019 09: 08
      It is a pity that they do not know this at Sinai.
    3. 0
      15 October 2019 09: 57
      Aaron, I have a break in the template: you wrote that "already in 73 the Egyptians and Syrians fought competently and evil," but you were stuck with minuses, as if the Arabs declared the opposite and are worthless fighters on the basis of all the Arab-Israeli wars.
      So where is the logic?
      1. 0
        15 October 2019 10: 42
        Egyptians and Syrians can not fight among themselves, only with Israel, here's the logic smile
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 11: 17
        It’s the same as Aron would have written, that the Israelis fought well and defeated a strong opponent in heavy battles. Such a statement is worthy of a bunch of minuses!
        1. +1
          15 October 2019 12: 48
          But he didn't write that either. He noted the worthy preparation of the enemy. In general, this is the first time I have read the praise of the Arabs from a person from Israel. But he was still poked with minuses, because "it goes against the party line."
          1. 0
            15 October 2019 15: 44
            Quote: Ural-4320
            But he was still poked with minuses, because "it goes against the party line."

            Because it goes against reality. Here Finns in the 20th century lost all all the wars. And what, they are called bad warriors?
            1. -1
              15 October 2019 15: 48
              That is, the USSR defeated the Finns in 40? Did not know.
              Sarcasm...
              1. +2
                15 October 2019 18: 13
                Won. Do you think you lost?
                1. -2
                  15 October 2019 18: 15
                  I think so. In a military sense. But the shift of the border did not turn out as planned.
                  1. +2
                    15 October 2019 20: 03
                    Hm. An interesting approach.
                    If we didn’t get the straits, as we wanted (or something else from what we planned), does it mean that we lost the Second World War?
                    1. -1
                      15 October 2019 21: 02
                      And what does it have to do with it? Two different wars in the history of our country. It is the Finns who do not share them.
                      1. +2
                        15 October 2019 21: 31
                        I had in mind your approach to assessing the results of the war.
                        If you didn’t achieve everything, what did you mean, did you lose the war?
                      2. -2
                        15 October 2019 23: 27
                        So reconciled. In this situation, it is difficult to say that the war is won; rather, the results are satisfactory.
  11. -3
    15 October 2019 08: 58
    “We will accept Georgia in NATO, but we don’t know when” - Secretary General Stoltenberg
    While the minke whales defend their goals in that region, they will need this country, in the form of a pawn, and as they play enough, they will merge it like the Kurds. And this alliance, another lure for Georgia, to make it easier to manage them.
  12. +3
    15 October 2019 09: 00
    “We are supporting Georgia in terms of modernizing its defense capabilities. We clearly state at all meetings that Georgia will become a member of NATO. But we do not yet know when this will happen. We do not have a time frame for Georgia in this regard. Answering a question, I say that we are now working with Georgia. We now have more representatives in Georgia than ever before.


    Verbiage, Georgia you need as a bridgehead and no more, and the population of Georgia as a shield, which is not at all sorry.
    1. 0
      15 October 2019 09: 09
      Quote: cniza
      Georgia you need as a bridgehead and no more

      We "need" Georgia as a road to Armenia ... and even then, it becomes more and more muddy and muddy there!
      What can one be envied for minke whales and Sorosovsky!
  13. 0
    15 October 2019 09: 03
    Georgia will become a member of NATO. But we do not yet know when this will happen. We do not have a time frame for Georgia

    "Postpone - the most hopeless form of refusal" © from "Murphy's Laws" ..
  14. 0
    15 October 2019 09: 05
    The triangle will drink, be it paralelipipid, will it come ...
  15. +1
    15 October 2019 09: 29
    More than 60% of the Georgian population for joining NATO. Let them not then pour tears under their songs.
  16. +1
    15 October 2019 09: 49
    "We clearly state at all our meetings that Georgia will become a NATO member. But we do not yet know when this will happen."
    For some reason, in this context, I want to write the word "clearly" through O - clearly, so that everyone immediately understands that the market is unambiguous, you are with us, everything is frayed, but it is not clear when it will grow together.
  17. 0
    15 October 2019 09: 55
    They will when Turkey leaves)
  18. 0
    15 October 2019 10: 02
    We clearly state at all meetings that Georgia will become a member of NATO. But we do not yet know when this will happen.
    As soon as space becomes free after Turkey’s expulsion from NATO laughing And a small but very proud Georgia will restrain the aggression of Russia and Turkey. The truth is not long. But it will be laughing
    How the West helps its allies, we now see the example of the Kurds. And I have no reason to believe that with Georgia even a NATO member will do the same. For example, suspending her membership retroactively.
    And Georgia will be like the hero of a joke: Very brave, but too easy.
  19. +1
    15 October 2019 10: 04
    Georgia will become a member of NATO. But we do not yet know when this will happen.
    Hearing this, the Georgian side decided to carry out work on crossing the nightingale with the crayfish, since at last she understood the meaning of the Russian proverb: "When the crayfish whistles on the mountain ..."
  20. NBV
    0
    15 October 2019 10: 11
    One of the preconditions for one power to join NATO is that it has no territorial claims against its neighbors. When Bulgaria wanted to join NATO, we signed documents stating that we had no territorial claims to Serbia's western outskirts of Bulgaria, and Turkey refused territorial claims to Bulgaria against the Rezovska River Valley and coastal disputed areas. In this sense, until Georgia renounces territorial claims against Ossetia and Abkhazia, it will not be admitted to NATO, even if it covers all other criteria.
    1. +1
      15 October 2019 10: 38
      You do not understand. The time of rules and firm foundations is over. Now there can be everything, for example, Saakashvili will be personally accepted into NATO, and a missile defense system will be placed in his garden. If necessary, the Americans. What the Bulgarians, or Italians think about this, is not what the sheriff’s Indians do.
    2. 0
      15 October 2019 10: 45
      Formally, this is not a problem - from the point of view of all NATO countries, South Ossetia and Abkhazia are part of Georgia.
      But in fact, everyone understands that the owl is about a stump, that the stub about the owl is a small difference ....
  21. +1
    15 October 2019 16: 06
    In our time of the Union, the construction battalion of the BF was based in Liepaja, so the whole rank-and-file composition was from Georgians. Such thugs, but the BF rembat, where the Slavs served, was located nearby. How they drove these Georgians, beauty! The belt around the fist and rushed!
  22. 0
    16 October 2019 10: 11
    He politely sewed, to say nothing.