Who was General Vlasov

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In Soviet and Russian historiography, the words "Vlasov" and "Vlasovites" are associated only with betrayal and treason, switching to the side of the enemy, and nothing more. Recently, in the political life of Ukraine, I had to endow the corrupt “Party of Regions” with the symbol “political Vlasovites” as a symbol of betrayal in politics.





Such contemptuous symbolism came from the surname of Andrei Vlasov, a General of the Red Army in the first months of the war, who, being surrounded in 1942, surrendered and switched to the side of the Germans. The transition of the commander of the 2 th strike army Vlasov to the Germans, of course, was one of the most unpleasant episodes of the war for our country. There were other officers who became traitors, but Vlasov was the most senior and most famous. Naturally, it is interesting what kind of man this general was, how he stood out from the top command staff of the Red Army and what made him take the path of betrayal.

Personnel Officer of the Red Army


Vlasov, the future cadre officer of the Red Army, was born into a poor peasant family in the Nizhny Novgorod region, with difficulty he managed to enter a seminary, in which training was interrupted by the revolution. In 1918 he entered to study as an agronomist, in 1919 he was mobilized into the Red Army. After the commanding courses, he commanded a platoon, company, with 1929, after completing the Shot courses, he commanded a battalion, and served as chief of staff of the regiment. Member of the CPSU (b), with 1933 in senior positions at the headquarters of the Leningrad Military District, member of the district tribunal. Student of the Frunze Military Academy with 1935, commander of the 215th Infantry Regiment of the 72th Division with 1937, commander of this division with 1938. From October, 1938 was seconded to China to work in a group of military advisers; from May to November, 1939 was the main military adviser in China.

Upon his return from China, he inspected the 99 rifle division, in his report noted that the division commander was intensively studying the Wehrmacht experience, he was soon arrested, and Vlasov in January 1940 was appointed commander of the 99 rifle division, which was deployed in the area of ​​Przemysl.

Under the command of Vlasov, the division was recognized as the best in the Kiev military district, he achieved a high level of tactical training of personnel and the strict implementation of the charter standards. For his success, Vlasov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner, the Red Star wrote about him as a capable commander taking care of his subordinates. According to the results of military exercises in September 1940, with the participation of Marshal Tymoshenko, the division was awarded the Red Banner, and the marshal named it the best in the Red Army. In the first days of the war, the 99 Division, already without Vlasov, was one of the few that offered organized and persistent resistance to the enemy.

As can be seen from his track record, he went all the steps from the platoon commander to the division commander, proved to be an intelligent commander, and enjoyed authority among his subordinates and command.

The commander of the 4 mechanized corps in battles on the Lviv ledge


In January, 1941 Vlasov was appointed commander of the 4 th mechanized corps of the Kiev military district. A month later, he was awarded the Order of Lenin, apparently for China. The corps was deployed in Lviv and was part of the 6 Army of the Kiev District, which, with the outbreak of war, was transformed into the Southwestern Front.

Of all the mechanized corps of the Red Army, the 4th mechanized corps was one of the most powerful and equipped formations; it was constantly replenished with military equipment, including the latest. The structure of the body included the 8th tank division. 32nd Panzer Division, 81st Motorized Division, motorcycle regiment, two artillery regiments, aviation squadron, engineering support units.

The corps was located on the most important operational area on the Lviv ledge, deeply wedged to the west. The command attached particular importance to the manning of the corps and combat training of personnel.

At the beginning of the war, there were 33734 personnel in the corps, an 892 tank (T-34 -313, KV-1 - 101, BT-7 - 290, T-26-103, T-28 - 75, T-40 - 10) , 198 armored vehicles, 2918 vehicles, 1050 motorcycles, 134 guns. 152 mortar. Only the latest T-34 and KV-1 tanks in the hull were more than 400, the hull was impressive in its equipment and numerical strength.



By order of the commander of the 6 Army Muzychenko, the corps was put on alert on June 20 in accordance with the plan for covering the border. On alarm, the 8 Panzer and 81 Motorized Divisions were recalled from the camps, and the 32 Panzer Division at two o'clock in the morning on June 22 were put forward to Yavorivskoye Shosse. The Corps met the beginning of the war prepared and put on alert.

By order of the Chief of the General Staff Zhukov on June 23, the 4 mechanized corps together with the 15 mechanized corps were to launch a counterattack on German troops in the direction of Lublin.

But the counterattack was unsuccessful, since orders to the corps came from Zhukov without coordinating with the actions of the commander of the 6 Army Muzychenko, they often contradicted each other and the actions of the corps were directed in diverging directions and lacked unified control.

Hull divisions were used in isolation from the main forces and made long marches on 75-100 km per day, leading to equipment breakdowns and the consumption of motor resources, hulls lost more equipment from malfunctions than from enemy fire. The orders of the higher command were often canceled and new ones arrived related to the relocation to other areas.

There was also a seizure by the higher command of motorized rifle units from the 4 mechanized corps, which negatively affected the results of hostilities of tank units forced to operate without the support of infantry, and often artillery.

Parts of the corps suffered losses from the attacks of Ukrainian nationalist units from the UPA, clashes with these units flashed on the streets of Lviv and in the vicinity, so on June 24 the commander of the 81 division went missing with his headquarters.

General Vlasov tried to straighten out the position created by the conflicting orders of the command. Parts of the corps in the first battles with the enemy, despite the difficult situation, showed skill and stamina.

Despite the successful actions of individual units and subunits, the 4 and 15 mechanized corps did not cause significant damage to the enemy. By the end of the day, the connections of the German 1-th tank group captured Radzekhov and Berestechko.

Zhukov ordered the June 24 to withdraw from the 8 tank division, it was transferred to the submission of the 15 mechanized corps for delivering a tank attack near Brody and was not returned to the corps.

At the approaches to Lviv, the 68th German infantry division was operating against the corps, which suffered significant losses and was put into reserve. The corps provided the defense of Lviv and successfully held it, but due to the deep penetration of the enemy in the Kiev direction on June 27, an order was issued to withdraw and on June 29 Lviv was abandoned. Units of the 32th Panzer Division covered the withdrawal of troops and suffered heavy losses.

Parts of the corps retreated to Berdichev, the 6 Army rolled back east, the stubborn battles for Chudnov began on July 8, despite the small numbers, the 81 Division waged fierce battles with the enemy and held its positions until July 10 and retreated by order.

The 4th mechanized corps, before 12 July, covered the withdrawal of the 6th army and was withdrawn for reformation in the area of ​​the city of Priluki. A detachment of 32 tanks and an infantry battalion was formed from the units of the 5th Panzer Division, which was subordinated to the 16 mechanized corps and defeated in the Uman's Cauldron as part of the 6 Army.

The remnants of the 4th mechanized corps were concentrated in the Priluk area, on 15 on July there were 68 tanks left (T-34 - 39, KV-1 - 6, BT-7 - 23). By directive of the Stavka, the corps was disbanded, equipment and personnel were transferred to form other compounds.

During the first weeks of battles, the 4th mechanized corps under the command of Vlasov proved to be a well-trained and combat-ready unit capable of successfully solving assigned tasks. The actions of the corps to cover the withdrawal of troops of the 6 Army were included in the post-war textbooks of tactics, as an example of the competent organization of defensive battles in tank units

Command of the 37-th Army in the defense of Kiev


By mid-July, the Germans broke through the defenses of the Soviet troops, captured Berdichev, Zhytomyr and by the 11 of July reached the approaches to Kiev. For the defense of Kiev, from the units and formations of the Kiev fortified area and reserves of the Headquarters, the 37 Army was formed, the command of which on July 23 was appointed Vlasov, who showed himself well in defensive battles near Lviv.

The 37 Army included the 3 Airborne Corps, eight poorly equipped infantry divisions, and a number of artillery and other formations from the remnants of the broken formations of the Kiev fortified area. The army was poorly equipped and not well armed, but Vlasov managed to assemble the broken units into a cohesive army, which successfully opposed the well-armed and trained units of the Wehrmacht.

Who was General Vlasov


Vlasov demanded from his subordinate commanders:
“Do not spray your forces and assets on a wide front, but strive to beat the enemy on a narrow front with the whole mass of artillery fire, mortars and manpower. To strive to bypass the fortified settlements of the enemy - in no case to hit him in the forehead, but to beat where he does not expect. "


The army occupied the defense west of Kiev and, despite powerful blows of superior enemy forces, coped with the task and did not allow the Germans to take Kiev with a frontal strike.

The troops of the 6 Army of the Wehrmacht on July 30 struck the joint of the Kiev fortified area and the 26 Army and forced the Soviet forces to retreat, while the 1 Army Group launched an offensive, bypassing Kiev from the south. The Germans of 10 of August broke into the southwestern suburbs of Kiev, but the troops of the 37 Army put up fierce resistance and forced them to retreat. The German command reported that the attack on Kiev had stopped. Moreover, the 37 Army managed to organize a counterattack, threw the enemy back and, by August 16 in general, restored its original position. Throughout August and September, the Germans, having suffered serious losses, were forced to keep 13 divisions and 4 brigades in the Kiev region, not daring to storm the city.

Vlasov prevented the surrender of Kiev in August, out of a relatively small number of troops in the army, he gave the units maximum mobility. They were transferred from one section of the front to another with the help of specially formed transport convoys, trains and city transport, trams delivered reserves and ammunition almost to the front line.

Khrushchev then noted:
“Vlasov put together his army from the units retreating and escaping from the German encirclement, and in fact proved that we made the right choice. He always calmly kept under fire, provided a firm and prudent leadership of the defense of Kiev. "


The enemy could not break the resistance of the troops defending Kiev, he took possession of it only by making a deep detour from the flanks and encircling to the east most of the forces of the entire South-Western Front. On 15 of September, German tank wedges connected beyond the Dnieper in the Lokhvitsy area and four armies (5, 21, 26, 37) were in the boiler.

Once surrounded, the Military Council of the 37 Army telegraphed September 17 at Headquarters:
“37 Army in operational environment. On the western shore, the defense of the Kiev fortified area on 16 of September of this year as a result of the enemy’s offensive south of Fastov was broken, the reserve is exhausted, the battle continues ... Parts of the twenty-day battles are few, very tired, need rest and a lot of fresh reinforcement. There is no connection with the neighbors. Front intermittently. The East Bank cannot be held without strong reserves ... I ask for directions. ”


The September 19 Headquarters issued an order to the 37 Army to leave Kiev and leave the encirclement in the direction of Yagotin - Piryatin. Having received the order, the army on the night of September 19 began to withdraw from positions in Kiev and after stubborn battles left the city.

Together with the troops of the Southwestern Front, the 37 Army was surrounded, more than 600 of thousands of Soviet soldiers and officers were killed or captured, the front commander Kirponos shot himself, only a small scattered part of the 37 Army without heavy weapons and vehicles broke through in separate groups from encirclement and connected with the Soviet troops. Vlasov, with a part of the army’s fighters, after long wanderings surrounded by the 1 of November, went to Kursk held by Soviet troops and immediately ended up in the hospital. By order of the Bet, the 37-I Army of the 25 of September was disbanded.

Commanding the 37 Army, Vlasov proved himself a capable military leader, correctly organized the defense of Kiev and kept him from attacks of superior Wehrmacht forces for almost two months, left the city on the orders of the Headquarters and left the encirclement with the remnants of the army.

Command of the 20 Army in the Battle of Moscow


In November 1941, a difficult situation developed near Moscow. Headquarters decided to form another army and transfer it to the subordination of the Western Front. On the basis of the Bet Directive of November 29, the 20 Army was formed on the basis of the operational group of Colonel Lizyukov. Vlasov was personally invited to an appointment with Stalin, and on November 30 he was appointed army commander. Colonel Sandalov was appointed chief of staff of the army, before that he was chief of staff of the Bryansk Front and one of the best staffers in the Red Army since the Great Patriotic War.



Sandalov in his memoirs described how he had been invited by the chief of the General Staff Shaposhnikov before his appointment and said that General Vlasov, one of the commanders of the South-Western Front who had recently left the encirclement, was appointed to command the army, but he is sick and Sandalov will have to do without him in the near future .

The 20 Army included the 331 and 352 I rifle divisions, 28 I, 35 and 64 I rifle brigades, 134 and 135 separate tank battalions, artillery and other units. In total, the army had 38 239 fighters and commanders, the army was well equipped with tanks, artillery, mortars and rifle weapons.

As part of the troops of the right flank of the Western Front, the 20 Army took part in the Moscow Battle. Three stages of the participation of the 20 Army in the counter-offensive near Moscow can be distinguished: from 5-8 December to 21 December — the beginning of the offensive and the liberation of Volokolamsk, from 21 December to 10 January 1942 — the preparation of a breakthrough of the fortified enemy front at the border of the Lama River and from January 10 - a breakthrough of the enemy’s line on the Lama River, with the pursuit of the enemy and exit to the area northeast of Gzhatsk by the end of January.


Awarding Vlasov. 1942 year


During the counterattack in early December, the key to the entire army operation was Krasnaya Polyana, with the capture of which the conditions were created for the defeat of the enemy’s Solnechnogorsk grouping. The units of the 20 Army all day 7 and the night of December 8 fought fierce battles with the enemy for Krasnaya Polyana and, despite stubborn resistance of the enemy, by the morning of December 8 Krasnaya Polyana was taken and this opened the way to Volokolamsk

Sovinformburo 13 December announced the repulsion of the German offensive near Moscow. The message was printed in the central newspapers Pravda and Izvestia, in which photographs of particularly distinguished commanders, including Vlasov, were given. On December 14, he gives an interview to BBC correspondents, indicating a high level of confidence in Vlasov from Stalin.



For the battles near Moscow, Vlasov on January 24 of 1942 of the year was awarded the Order of the Red Banner and promoted to lieutenant general, in addition, on February 11 he was awarded a personal audience with Stalin, which lasted more than an hour.

After successes near Moscow and enthusiastic responses to him by Stalin, Vlasov is called “the savior of Moscow”, leaflets about the victory near Moscow with portraits of Vlasov are distributed in the cities, he becomes one of the most popular Soviet military leaders. Specialist in stories World War II John Erickson called Vlasov "one of Stalin's favorite commanders." There is a version that after the appointment of Vlasov as the deputy commander of the Volkhov Front in Stavka, it was decided to confer upon him the title of Hero of the Soviet Union and the next rank of Colonel General and Stalin as if signed a decree, but this is not confirmed by documents.

Also, Vlasov’s direct participation in the command of the 20 Army at the beginning of the counterattack of the head of the Sandalov Army’s headquarters, who in a letter to Marshal Zakharov in the 1964 year, when many of the participants in the battle for Moscow were still alive, does not confirm how Vlasov commanded the army.

Before the liberation of Volokolamsk, Vlasov did not essentially command the army, declared himself ill and lived in a hotel in Moscow, and then he was transferred from one army command post to another under the protection of a doctor and adjutant. Sandalov sent all the documents for signature to Vlasov through his adjutant, and he returned them signed without a single correction. For the first time, headquarters officers saw Vlasov only on 19 of December, when Volokolamsk was taken. The operations of the army were led by Sandalov and the deputy commander, Colonel Lizyukov, all telephone conversations with Zhukov and Shaposhnikov were conducted only by Sandalov. The title “Major General” was assigned to Sandalov on December 27 immediately after the liberation of Volokolamsk and the award sheet for his presentation to the Order of the Red Banner indicates “for the development and organization of military operations in the battles for Krasnaya Polyana, Solnechnogorsk and Volokolamsk”, which confirms it command and control of the 20 Army in December 1941.

If this is so, then Stalin undeservedly extolled Vlasov’s successes and the high command of the Red Army could not have known this, but no one dared to object to the Supreme Commander.

Be that as it may, at the initial stage of the war, Vlasov proved to be a talented commander of the corps and armies, the troops entrusted to him successfully completed the tasks assigned to them, and no one could have predicted how his last appointment as commander of the 2th Shock Army would end. The heroic pages of his biography near Moscow ended and the biography of the traitor, who went over to the side of the enemy, began.

To be continued ...
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  1. +5
    16 October 2019 06: 19
    Unfortunately, we have enough such "examples" in history ... Here are the recent ones - hunchback and drunk ..
    1. -3
      16 October 2019 06: 58
      There is such a thing ... Homeland will not forget, but x. will remember
      And what are we - running fast?)
      1. +12
        16 October 2019 13: 52
        The strange title of the article: "Who was General Vlasov." Anyone have questions, doubts? - of course a scum and a traitor! I would have understood the researchers of the biography of this "glorious" general if the Germans had captured him when he was wounded and was in an unconscious state (did not have time to shoot himself). Further - more, having gone through many concentration camps and monstrous tortures, the will of this glorious general still broke! crying But this was not close! This cattle not only wanted to live, but she also wanted to live sweetly, in comfort! What material and human damage this scum has inflicted on our country with its "activities" of the commander-in-chief of the ROA - no one even dared to calculate (from myself I will only say that my grandfather's brother on the maternal side was tortured to death by the Vlasovites). Let this pad.la burn forever in hell!
        1. +5
          17 October 2019 07: 12
          Quote: Proxima
          The strange title of the article: "Who was General Vlasov."

          Smells like an Overton window - a stage from the "unthinkable" (complete ban) to "radical" (lifting the ban on discussion).
          You can also describe the exploits of Hitler in World War I (the Iron Cross got the same!) And discuss the paintings he wrote.
          1. 0
            19 October 2019 18: 22
            Yes, it does not smell, this is it. "Let's discuss why ...." And it is only necessary to discuss what was hanged for treason.
      2. +3
        16 October 2019 17: 51
        Vlasov - Mazepa of the twentieth century. Now everyone who cheated on their homeland is considered a fighter against communism and Stalin.
    2. +16
      16 October 2019 10: 02
      Quote: 210ox
      Unfortunately, we have enough such "examples" in history ... Here are the recent ones - hunchback and drunk ..

      .... and their successors, who are building the Yeltsin centers, the Walls of Sorrow, Mannerheim memorial plaques open. In general, they are quite worthy successors of the Vlasov case. Dmitry welcome hi
      1. -4
        16 October 2019 14: 56
        Who was General Vlasov

        A traitor. But his business lives, moreover, under the same flags.
        1. +3
          16 October 2019 17: 46
          Quote: lexus
          Who was General Vlasov

          A traitor. But his business lives, moreover, under the same flags.

          Your logic is strange! request You never know what kind of cattle makes an abomination under the guise of symbols. Many atrocities were committed in world history under the symbol of Christ and Magomed. So what? - let's cancel Christianity and Islam?
        2. +7
          16 October 2019 21: 19
          Quote: lexus
          Who was General Vlasov

          A traitor. But his business lives, moreover, under the same flags.

          Can you ask about the colors of the "flags"? By the way, ROA fought under the Andreevsky flag, which appeared long before the scoundrel Vlasov and was repeatedly glorified in battles. Do you consider this flag a symbol of betrayal?
  2. +8
    16 October 2019 06: 48
    I remember how one comrade, who is not at all comrade to me, tried to convince me that Vlasov was a patriot and his betrayal was staged. He cited the ROA anthem as an example, something like “let's go to battle with the Bolsheviks,” in the sense that they are going to battle with them, and not against them. I said a lot more.

    I then confined myself to a reminder that there is a court verdict that declares Vlasov a traitor.

    So who was the General Vlasov?
    1. +19
      16 October 2019 08: 16
      horus88 (Paul)
      So who was the General Vlasov?
      Traitor, Judas and no one else! And none of his previous merits will ever wash away the stain of shame on betrayal.
      Recently it has become very fashionable to whitewash all abomination. So for example, in our Rostov Region, in the village of Vyoshenskaya, a monument was erected on a private courtyard and there is a private museum for another traitor and Nazi minion Ataman P.N. Krasnov.
      And so throughout the country, this creeping infection is spreading. Moreover, it spreads stubbornly and purposefully with an eye on our children. And it is gradually bearing fruit, Kolysurengoy appears and there are more and more of them, that’s what’s scary.
      We, as always, cannot be defeated in the open, so they begin to fall apart from the inside. Once they succeeded, whether it will work out the second time I don’t know, but the trend is terrible. In Rossosh, a monument to alpine shooters, in St. Petersburg Mannerheim’s board, obvious shoals on Victory Day posters depicting a Wehrmacht soldier, instead of the victorious soldiers and so on, and so on and so forth ...

      I don’t understand why the author needed to raise this topic. For what? What, someone doubts that Vlasov is a traitor? What is the meaning of the article?
      1. +11
        16 October 2019 08: 21
        if we don’t explain to our children what’s what, then there will be no Russia. You cannot rely on teachers or the government in this matter. And then Vlasov will become a hero, and Hitler will not be so bad. And then, suddenly, it turns out that we also lost the war.
        1. +6
          16 October 2019 08: 27
          I absolutely agree that raising children is exclusively the concern of parents, especially in modern Russia. Therefore, I take my children and nephews to the immortal regiment and to the grave of my grandfather, a veteran of two wars, and my grandmother, who survived the occupation.
          1. +12
            16 October 2019 11: 32
            Well done, I fully support you !!! And Vlasov is satisfied with the result of his "life", he deserves
            1. +5
              16 October 2019 11: 50
              I agree, a well-deserved ending for any traitor!
              1. +4
                16 October 2019 17: 20
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                I agree, a well-deserved ending for any traitor!

                Thanks SMERSHOVTS! good hi Professionally hunted down and literally torn at the last moment from the clutches of the allies. And he was already in the USA. Our liberals would read his memoirs now, crying how tirelessly he fought the Bolshevik infection and the red plague.
        2. 0
          16 October 2019 15: 31
          A good example: in 1984, somewhere in the newspaper I read such a verpe
      2. +7
        16 October 2019 10: 31
        Yes, there are plenty of doubters. Take, for example, "our" sofa monarchists ..
    2. +3
      16 October 2019 15: 27
      "Who was General Vlasov"? The question is more than correct. I read about Vlasov and think: a story about completely different people. One skillfully defended Kiev with a minimum of strength, and the other, in fact, went into heroes on someone else's neck, and then went into the service of Hitler
    3. +5
      16 October 2019 21: 45
      Quote: horus88
      So who was the General Vlasov?

      Traitor and scum, there is no doubt and can not be in principle. Anyone who thinks differently, does not differ much from him, since he considers acceptable an alliance with an enemy that kills his compatriots and is ready to go against the enemy for the sake of his selfish interests. Whatever Vlasov did there earlier, saved the kitten, handed it to a beggar, fought in the ranks of the Red Army, all this is boldly crossed out by his betrayal, after which he is exclusively and only a TRAITOR and no one else.
      The article is very reminiscent of Overton's Windows, or rather one of them:
      1. First, talk about his crime.
      2. Then we recall "what kind of guy was he"
      3. Then let us recall the hopeless situation and his personal accounts with the Bolsheviks, who had obscured him to the rank of general and Star of the Hero of the USSR
      4. Recall the right to own political views
      5. And finally, let's speculate that, in general, he was not a villain, since he ruined fewer lives than the "bloodthirsty" Zhukov, the "clumsy" Vatutin, the "stupid" Konev, and indeed, if only the Russians (namely "русские"since no one else had anything to do with the" bloody crimes of the regime ") supported this nice guy, and not the Stalinist satraps, then we would now be driving on high-quality roads, but we would have sipped" Bavarian ".
      So the work is still endless. We stock up on popcorn.
      PS: My personal opinion is that a traitor deserves only two things: - a noose and complete oblivion, and not "memorial" articles, and without meaningfully their assessments of the "activities" of such creatures. As the saying goes - "Izdoh Nikodim and x .. with him." hi
      1. +1
        17 October 2019 21: 52
        Quote: Rededi
        The article is very reminiscent of Overton's Windows

        It's not like Windows - it's just a classic!
      2. +1
        19 October 2019 18: 27
        Absolutely [quote = Rhedya] [quote = horus88] So who was the General Vlasov? [/ Quote]
        Traitor and scum, there is no doubt and can not be in principle. Anyone who believes otherwise is not much different from him
      3. -1
        10 January 2020 02: 30
        Bolnzny, Bavarian is Soviet pre-war beer ..
  3. +6
    16 October 2019 07: 00
    A traitor and a traitor to the homeland. And the point.
    1. -4
      16 October 2019 10: 29
      Quote: Van 16
      A traitor and a traitor to the homeland. And the point.

      You first "Homeland"Learn to write with a capital letter.
      1. +15
        16 October 2019 11: 20
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Van 16
        A traitor and a traitor to the homeland. And the point.

        You first "Homeland"Learn to write with a capital letter.


        said the man who changed her ...
        1. -6
          16 October 2019 18: 38
          Quote: Andy
          Quote: professor
          Quote: Van 16
          A traitor and a traitor to the homeland. And the point.

          You first "Homeland"Learn to write with a capital letter.


          said the man who changed her ...

          Homeland as a mother, alone.
          1. +2
            16 October 2019 22: 40
            Quote: professor
            Quote: Andy
            Quote: professor
            Quote: Van 16
            A traitor and a traitor to the homeland. And the point.

            You first "Homeland"Learn to write with a capital letter.


            said the man who changed her ...

            Homeland as a mother, alone.

            Someone like! Looking at you!
            1. -8
              17 October 2019 07: 37
              Quote: non-primary
              Quote: professor
              Quote: Andy
              Quote: professor
              Quote: Van 16
              A traitor and a traitor to the homeland. And the point.

              You first "Homeland"Learn to write with a capital letter.


              said the man who changed her ...

              Homeland as a mother, alone.

              Someone like! Looking at you!

              Look at yourself.
      2. 0
        19 October 2019 18: 29
        Yes, you do not care about the homeland.
    2. +5
      16 October 2019 17: 28
      There is no dispute with this, another question is what happened to the man who showed himself well at the beginning of the war. You won’t get into your brains, but my opinion is that he simply psychologically broke when he hit the boiler a second time. To rush once again at the risk of dying ... he preferred captivity.
      But then it went: betrayal, Roa. It is easier to be Vlasov or Paulus, and not everyone is strong in spirit, like Karbyshev.
      Traitor and traitor, fair sentence and deserved punishment.
    3. -2
      10 January 2020 02: 43
      As well as 300 million citizens of the USSR who did not defend their homeland in 91 ..
  4. +14
    16 October 2019 07: 00
    Vlasov proved himself as a talented commander of the corps and armies, the troops entrusted to him successfully completed the tasks assigned to them

    Nothing "talented" is visible: Rokossovsky's incomplete mechanized corps looks much more successful than Vlasov's fully equipped corps, the fate of Kiev was not decided on the 37th Army sector (everything was decided by flank strikes), it was not he who fought near Moscow.
    The average commander.

    Not even a Hero of Owls. Union (and where is Stalin's special favor?)
    Stalin undeservedly extolled the successes of Vlasov
    leaflets about victory near Moscow with portraits of Vlasov distributed in cities

    Evidence - leaflets, personal assessments of Stalin - where can I find, see?
  5. +9
    16 October 2019 07: 01
    A traitor at all times will remain only a traitor. None of his past merits will outweigh the betrayal itself. Judas may have been a good man, but he is known only as Judas, as a traitor. The same thing with Vlasov. The gallows - this is the best reward so for all their deeds. And there is nothing to drag in the struggle against Bolshevism. Vlasov and others like him fought not with Bolshevism, but with their own people, with a people who, bleeding to defend their homeland, the Fatherland, waged a fierce struggle with the invaders trying to destroy it. The antithesis of Vlasov is A.I. Denikin, who, despite his attitude to the Bolsheviks, did not go to serve the fascists, Hitler, but remained faithful to his people, his homeland. Death to traitors !!!

    "People-State-Fatherland" - this is the slogan of every Russian patriot. A strong state, a united people, a prosperous country for centuries, which cannot be broken by internal and external enemies.
    1. +8
      16 October 2019 08: 24
      I completely agree with the first part of your post, but at the expense of Denikin, you are greatly mistaken. Refusing to cooperate with the Germans, he gladly gave advice to Truman on how to destroy the USSR. So Denikin is no better than either Vlasov, or Krasnova, or Shkuro and others like them. The same traitor, only surrendered not to the Germans, but to the Americans. And the plant "horseradish", as you know, the radish is not sweeter!
      1. +3
        16 October 2019 08: 58
        but at the expense of Denikin, you are very mistaken ...
        ... Denikin is no better than Vlasov, nor Krasnov, nor Shkuro and others like them. The same traitor ...

        I fully support.
        He was a bastard. It is not clear why Stalin did not touch him?
        From Wikipedia:
        Strengthened after World War II, Soviet influence in Europe forced General Denikin to leave France. In the USSR, Denikin’s patriotic position during the Second World War was known, and Stalin did not raise the question of the forcible deportation of Denikin to the Soviet state before the governments of the countries of the anti-Hitler coalition. But Denikin himself did not have accurate information on this subject and experienced a certain discomfort and fear for his life. In addition, Denikin felt that under direct or indirect Soviet control he was limited in his ability to express his views in print
        1. +2
          16 October 2019 17: 47
          I read Denikin's "Old Army Officers" the same self-glorification as in the memoirs of Goth and Guderian ... all those who have profited talk about their genius. How would he help?
          He would still have to keep the guard, even if he was an ordinary ... Well, how will he be captured or surrender ... Another reason for propaganda: The Soviets have no generals! and suddenly gave up (somewhere in 1942 !!!) they will add that even this one does not believe in victory, then no 227 would stop the collapse.
      2. -2
        10 January 2020 02: 59
        > Truman how to destroy the USSR
        The charter of the Red Army:
        "The Red Army is the army of the world proletariat, and its goal is the struggle for world revolution."
        That's all I wanted to say..
    2. -2
      10 January 2020 02: 52
      The nation-state-homeland is the slogan of the Nazis of the Third Reich
      Everything in the state, nothing outside the state, everything for gosudartsva ..- the slogan of the fascist party of Italy
      Live now with this little fascist
  6. +12
    16 October 2019 07: 31
    something here, again some authors, started talking about traitors. and they’re so softly humming, they say, like a man, he seems to have gotten nothing, from the platoon commander, to the general, in the first days of the war, it seems, and there was nothing to himself, over there, as agreed. .... After successes near Moscow and enthusiastic reviews addressed to him by Stalin, Vlasov is called “the savior of Moscow”, ..... and a question for the author, you can link, where I.V. STALIN praises Vlasov, or admires him? judging by the memoirs of Zhukov Vasilevsky, Rokosovsky, and Golovanov, who were in pure contact with the supreme, he was generally stingy, for some kind of eulogies, purely business relations, no more than Vlasov, and as a person, shit, but as a general. ........... last. but it seems to me that, against the backdrop of Vlasov, the betrayal of the present is being retouched, otherwise the question will arise, for the hunchbacked, Yeltsin, for everyone, the Bakatins and the Trumps, who are they?
    1. +7
      16 October 2019 07: 56
      Quote: Unknown
      and they’re so softly humming, they say, like a man, he seems to have gotten nothing, from the platoon commander, to the general, in the first days of the war, it seems, and there was nothing to himself, over there, as agreed. ..

      As a military leader, Vlasov was weak, and you can agree that all of his talents as commanders are simply a myth.
      He left a company commander as a teacher at a military school, that is, he had little command experience, and Vlasov's career growth began only in the late 30s, when there was a shortage of commanders, for obvious reasons, to which, by the way, he brought his own " contribution".
      A traitor is a traitor, they are always deservedly despised and disdainful towards them, the Germans called him a pig, he was not offended, which is typical.
  7. +2
    16 October 2019 08: 19
    Unfortunately, people "break" ... you just need to be aware of this and ... but what to do for sure, no one has come up with yet!
    1. +12
      16 October 2019 08: 30
      rocket757 (Victor)
      Unfortunately, people "break" ... you just need to be aware of this and ... but what to do for sure, no one has come up with yet!
      Well, yes, some like Vlasov break down and become traitors and their name has been despised for centuries. And others, like General Karbyshev, do not break down and become heroes. So everyone makes his own choice.
      1. +4
        16 October 2019 08: 37
        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
        So everyone makes his own choice.

        Who argues. Everyone should get what they deserve!
        Only I'm not talking about, I do not blame and do not justify, but I WARN that no one has yet reached such abilities to educate ONLY HEROES !!! traitors may appear ... this must always be taken into account! Although, how to foresee and consider this .... I do not know! and no one knows for sure.
    2. 0
      17 October 2019 17: 18
      Quote: rocket757
      Unfortunately, people "break" ... you just need to be aware of this and ...

      And Volkogonov also "broke"? I wonder who broke it - I would very much like to realize who was able to do it at that time ...
      1. 0
        17 October 2019 18: 53
        Not read, no answer.
  8. +11
    16 October 2019 08: 23
    Dear author, why do you publish articles about traitors.
    This Vlasov "proved" himself sufficiently near Moscow. He did not participate in the defeat of the Nazis there in December 1941. Enterprises and research institutes from Tatarstan were subordinate to me. So, once I organized a trip to the area of ​​ns. Zuevo near Leningrad. These comrades wanted to pay tribute to their poet Musa Jamil, who fought in the Army, which your Vlasov handed over to the Nazis.
    We have people who even wanted to hang a memorial plaque to Mannerheim, the initiator of the blockade of Leningrad. He cut the train. north from Leningrad, occupying the right bank of the Svir River.
    And my father, major gunner, died on the Leningrad Front on 27.12/1941. XNUMX year. His fellow soldiers were buried at the Theological Cemetery in a separate grave. I visit her regularly and share with my father about your research on the traitors of our country.
    1. +3
      16 October 2019 08: 40
      JOIN !!!
      Of course it was, is and will be, but to arrange a discussion of such topics ......
      Everyone who they found has already received what they deserve !!!
      1. +2
        16 October 2019 09: 01
        Quote: rocket757
        but to arrange a discussion of such topics ......

        An attempt is being made to rehabilitate Vlasov, but given that public opinion is sharply opposed, the topic is being thrown into the discussion area for now.
        And, not only are similar stuffing done, but in 2016 in St. Petersburg a "scientific" defense of a doctoral dissertation on the subject of Vlasov's innocence was undertaken, and 18 (eighteen) votes of the Academic Council supported (with one against) this "scientific" work.
        1. +4
          16 October 2019 09: 58
          The NUTRITION boys are being sought and prepared ... this is understandable.
          Here is the task for ALL PARENTS, give the children a "vaccination" of memory! It is useful, necessary, for the country, and for you too.
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  9. +2
    16 October 2019 08: 50
    My grandfather said that in the war the Vlasovites were practically not taken prisoner. They were shot on the spot as traitors.
    They could have taken it as a "language", but after interrogation it was all the same to the wall.
    Vlasovites knew this very well and therefore resisted to the last.
  10. +3
    16 October 2019 08: 57
    A month later, he was awarded the Order of Lenin, apparently for China.

    For cohabitation with Chinese minors, Vlasov was awarded the Order of Lenin. What miracles it turns out to be.
  11. -4
    16 October 2019 09: 12
    The Party of Regions of Ukraine cannot be compared with Vlasov ... Vlasov is an ordinary traitor, for whom his ass is warm, there is his homeland ... And his personal grievances and politics here have nothing to do with his act (the same General Denikin refused to serve the Nazis) ... Yanukovych, Lukashenko and others built and are building their independence on Russophobia, this must be understood and not expect good from Russia for them!
  12. 0
    16 October 2019 09: 31
    Adi, a boy, was a sweet child, he studied well, he loved to draw, he wanted to be an architect. Who was Hitler? am
  13. 0
    16 October 2019 09: 31
    It seems that in the Kiev boiler he broke even out of his surroundings and left when he was in the boiler again, he decided it was easier to give up than to leave again
  14. +4
    16 October 2019 09: 33
    The author, a big request, no need to continue the article about this bastard and traitor!
    Are there really few worthy people who have accomplished feats and honestly served their homeland ?!
    That's about them and it is necessary to write, and not to open the "overtone windows" once again, for the sake of "whitewashing" the traitor Judas.
    1. +3
      16 October 2019 11: 33
      if you do not write about him, then he was not there ?! you need to write, but the truth. whatever it is, but this is our story.
      1. -1
        16 October 2019 12: 29
        Whoever needs it will find out about him. And once again "PR" to him, to say that he is like "a good commander, only a little traitor" is not worth it at all! Many, with fragile brains and lack of firm life principles, may not understand so well.
      2. +1
        16 October 2019 12: 42
        By your logic, Mannerheim should have left the board in St. Petersburg.
        What? He is a career officer of RIA ... "Our History"!
        And the fact that the troops, under his command, staged a blockade, and the death of thousands of civilians, do you think this is also "our history" ???
        1. +1
          16 October 2019 12: 46
          eco wedges you. and what-blockade is no longer our story? Do you understand the difference between the glorification of a villain and truthful information? then Hitler cross out of history textbooks - they say someone attacked us. ege victim
          1. +1
            16 October 2019 13: 05
            Well, judging by the minus that I got to the dude, there is no difference ... ok, then my advice is: you don’t need the truth, do not want to know the story as it is, just close the article.
          2. +1
            16 October 2019 13: 09
            Easy about ehe!
            I studied under the USSR, and according to Soviet programs, unlike you, still.
            The big plus of such training is that all things are called by their proper names!
            If a traitor is a traitor, he is the enemy, and the most dangerous one, that’s the point!
            And now, for some reason, it has become fashionable to poke around in these monsters, and to tell, as if "the truth" about them, about the fact that they are traitors, but in some ways it turns out, positive. That is, "according to the egeshny" it turns out that "black is not entirely black, and sometimes even white" ...
            Therefore, one should not be surprised at the appearance of "ruts from the Urengoy" and other "wishing to repent".
            1. +3
              16 October 2019 13: 15
              because if Urengoy because they do not have info who Vlasov is. take away a person’s history means take away the homeland, there are no roots. and what conclusion you draw from all the information is up to you.
        2. +5
          16 October 2019 13: 46
          Quote: fighter angel
          By your logic, Mannerheim should have left the board in St. Petersburg.
          What? He is a career officer of RIA ... "Our History"!

          And what does it have to do with it? Since when did an article become equivalent to a monument?
          It is necessary to write about Vlasov - and without hushing up his "pre-traitorous" biography. We must remind people that no past merits of the "defenders" and "saviors" can wash away the fact of betrayal and whitewash the traitor. And it doesn't matter who you were before - after the betrayal there is only one fate:
  15. +9
    16 October 2019 09: 34
    Sovinformburo 13 December announced the repulsion of the German offensive near Moscow. The message was printed in the central newspapers Pravda and Izvestia, in which photographs of particularly distinguished commanders, including Vlasov, were given.




    For the battles near Moscow, Vlasov 24 January 1942 year was awarded the Order of the Red Banner and promoted to lieutenant general,


    ,,, and the award was on the 2 of January 1942.
    1. +2
      16 October 2019 12: 37
      bubalik
      Thank you for the materials provided.
      A small detail.
      If you look closely at the newspaper photo, then Konstantin Konstantinovich somehow is not very similar to himself. It looks young. Probably, this photo was just taken from the archive, or from his personal file, and not taken in these difficult days ...
      1. +6
        16 October 2019 13: 46
        fighter angel (Alex)
        Thank you hi
        Alexey, I don’t understand one thing according to the UPU Decree of 02.01.1942 published in the newspaper
        was awarded: the Order of Lenin-14 people, the Red Banner-83 people, the Red Star-38 people. But on the same site "The feat of the people" this decree is curtailed or closed for viewing. There are no awards for this decree for one person. Why hide all this?
        1. +3
          16 October 2019 14: 14
          Sergey.
          I agree with you completely.
          Damn them there will sort out, according to what rules they declassify, or leave "secret" ...
          Let's hope that on the next anniversary of the Victory will be declassified ...
  16. +4
    16 October 2019 09: 45
    Vlasov, future personnel officer Red Army

    Strictly speaking, no. Officers in the Red Army appeared only in the 1943 year, and before that there were commanders.
  17. +3
    16 October 2019 10: 32
    Was a month ago in a meat bore ... Dozens of mass graves and in each from 300 to 4000 people ...
    1. +1
      16 October 2019 12: 50
      Quote: hrulevv
      Was a month ago in a meat bore ... Dozens of mass graves and in each from 300 to 4000 people ...

      I hope that the author will write about the breakthrough from the Meat Forest of the remnants of our fighters of the 2 th strike on Death Valley. A narrow corridor, shot from both sides by German machine guns. And in the fall of 42, the newly formed 2 drum will again fall into the boiler, and will be destroyed again. Some kind of evil rock above her. Moreover, under Khrushchev, the meat-boron was plowed.
      1. +2
        16 October 2019 14: 16
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        And in the fall of the 42nd, the newly formed 2nd shock will again fall into the boiler, and again will be destroyed. Some kind of evil rock above her.

        In all fairness, the second death of the 2nd Shock Army was not in vain. At the cost of its defeat, it was possible to disrupt the German operation "Winter Thunderstorm" - a blow across the Neva, bypassing Leningrad, to connect with the Finns on the Karelian Isthmus. If this operation succeeded, the city could find itself in a complete blockade.
        But the 11A Manstein transferred to Leningrad with siege artillery instead of encircling Leningrad was "spent" on repelling the blow of 2 UdA and 8 A of the Volkhov front.
        1. +2
          16 October 2019 14: 38
          Quote: Alexey RA
          In fairness, the second death of the 2th Shock Army was not in vain.

          I read that later, after the first breakthrough, stupid people called them "Vlasovites", although, unlike Vlasov, they broke through to their own people, and while Vlasov himself was being driven and milked, the rest of the soldiers had to eat horse harness. It's just a shame for them. Anyone in their place could be.
  18. +5
    16 October 2019 10: 37
    At the beginning of the war, there were 33734 personnel in the corps, an 892 tank (T-34 -313, KV-1 - 101, BT-7 - 290, T-26-103, T-28 - 75, T-40 - 10) , 198 armored vehicles, 2918 vehicles, 1050 motorcycles, 134 guns. 152 mortar. Only the latest T-34 and KV-1 tanks in the hull were more than 400, the hull was impressive in its equipment and numerical strength.

    According to the number of "general availability" - yes. But the devil - he is in the details. A details in 4 MK were not so rosy:
    Reports on the availability of weapons and ammunition as of May 1, 1941. The 4th mechanized corps of Major General Andrei Andreyevich Vlasov (the very future commander of the 37th, 20th, 2nd shock and Russian liberation armies): KV tank corps has 72, T-34 tanks - 242, it is supposed to have 76 artillery shots for 66964-mm tank guns, of which zero is available. All types - at least armor-piercing, at least high-explosive fragmentation - are still zero.

    Education:
    Higher - 592
    Average - 3521
    Grades 9-7 - 5609
    Grades 6-3 - 16662
    Uneducated - 1586
    Illiterate - 127

    And when it comes to combat training ...
    “The personnel of the material part studied well. The new models of T-34 tanks have not been studied enough.
    For independent action units prepared mediocre ...
    For making marches tank units prepared mediocre ...
    Control and communication in battle worked mediocre ...
    Tactical training of troops is mediocre ... ”
    “KV and T-34 tanks, armed with large-caliber artillery, are not provided with a training ground. It is necessary to use the anti-tank directrix for shooting at the Lviv artillery range ...
    In parts there are no shooting tables for 122-mm howitzers arr. 1938, tank guns L-10, L-11, manual on the material of 122 mm howitzers arr. 1938, 152 mm howitzers arr. 1938, manual for the materiel of the tank gun L-10, L-11, training tower models, training tank pantographs. "

    Source: Ulanov / Shein. Order in the tank troops?
  19. +2
    16 October 2019 11: 10
    Based on what I read, I got the feeling that Vlasov broke down precisely in the battles for Kiev, where he was first surrounded. Yes, he got out, a little oklimatsya. But he was a general, and he could not simply say "I'm tired, I'm leaving." Moreover, before that Vlasov had been in command quite successfully (although who knows, suddenly he had an outstanding staff officer there too ...). It didn't work out near Moscow either: the operation for the units entrusted to him went well, which means he is still in the cage. Here, most likely, the situation with the 2nd Shock Army was the very first where he was able to escape. I would not be surprised if, during the Battle of Moscow, his units would have pulled ahead and got into an operational environment, he would have tried to surrender even then.
    And it is also necessary to study the fate of such people. to understand how a person can become a traitor, and how to protect others from this in the future.
  20. +3
    16 October 2019 11: 55
    counter question .. and who was Judah ??
    1. 0
      16 October 2019 12: 27
      Quote: EDWARD
      and who was Judah ??

      Victim of despair, Satan's beloved child.
    2. +2
      16 October 2019 13: 02
      Quote: EDWARD
      counter question .. and who was Judah ??

      You can find an interesting version of the answer to this question in Kirill Eskov's book "The Gospel of Afranii". But the comparison of Vlasov with Judas is not in favor of Vlasov. The traitor Judas was driven by an understandable eternal self-interest, and the traitor Vlasov simply saved the skin.
      1. +1
        16 October 2019 13: 47
        Quote: AK1972
        An interesting version of the answer to this question you can find in Kirill Eskov in his book "The Gospel of Afranii"

        The version is witty, but his book can be attributed to an adventure novel, this is the anti-gospel.
        An indiscriminate reading of such books can only do much harm.
        1. +1
          17 October 2019 09: 38
          Indiscriminate reading of such books can only hurt.

          I absolutely agree with you, Vladimir! Therefore, I wrote: "An interesting version ..." and nothing more, although the word "witty" fits better. I just wanted to say that Vlasov and Judas are both traitors, but the motives for betrayal are different. Judas sold Christ for money, and Vlasov betrayed whole people out of fear for their bodies. And cowardice, as we know the worst sin.
          1. +1
            17 October 2019 09: 49
            Quote: AK1972
            Judah sold Christ for money

            His name is a thief, his gut is love of money., of course said not by me.
            But K.Keskov’s book is better not to read, too wittyly written.
            1. 0
              17 October 2019 12: 04
              Quote: bober1982
              But, the book of K. Yeskov is better not to read, too wittyly written.

              In your wit is this a negative quality? Apparently you read the book despite its wit.
              1. 0
                17 October 2019 12: 09
                I, at one time read Bulgakov, but now God forbid to take his famous book in his hands.
                Divine names and events, and in a witty, adventure book, is a bust of course.
                1. 0
                  17 October 2019 12: 36
                  Do you propose to remove The Master and Margarita from libraries (including private ones), topple it on Red Square, sing an anathema to the author, and burn his ingenious work to the ringing of bells? This event will significantly enrich Russian culture. History has known such cases. By the way, you also need to think about Tolstoy.
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2019 12: 44
                    Quote: AK1972
                    By the way, I also need to think about Tolstoy.

                    I will be modestly silent, after all they betrayed anathema.
                    Bulgakov has a brilliant book, but this is the gospel of Satan, which then can be discussed.
                    1. 0
                      17 October 2019 13: 19
                      Yes you, dear Vladimir religious fanatic. Dashingly you father snapped a brain. Yes, it's just not up to you to decide who to read, and what not to read. We have (at least by constitution) the church is separate from the state, but people like you do everything to return to the three classes of the Central School of Arts. Why does a slave need more? A lot of knowledge - a lot of sadness.
                      1. 0
                        17 October 2019 13: 28
                        What is fanaticism? there are patristic books and Orthodox dogmas, there is no fanaticism.
                      2. 0
                        17 October 2019 13: 47
                        Here I am about the same. Everything else is not only superfluous, but even harmful. I read the hymnal and enough. And dogmas are not only Orthodox, but also Muslim, Jewish and many others. In the end, atheism is also a dogma. I am not an atheist, but atheists have the same rights as you and me. Between dogmatism and bigotry you can put an equal sign, because following a dead dogma kills critical thinking and allows you to turn people into an obedient herd, which is very convenient to manage and cut as necessary. This is what our government is striving for together with the Russian Orthodox Church.
          2. +1
            18 October 2019 03: 23
            It must be assumed that the chief of the Sanhedrin guard knew the service tightly, and he gave out lenses to the employees sent to complete the assignment. Of course, there was no mention of modern identification methods, but the art of verbal portraiture was at a great height.
    3. +1
      16 October 2019 15: 14
      you can certainly pour water. that Judas was one of the apostles. that he came from somewhere. that he did something. And you can and should write-Judas was Judas.
  21. +1
    16 October 2019 13: 21
    Who was General Vlasov? Definitely a traitor. My personal opinion is that Vlasov doubted the victory of the USSR over fascist Germany, and on this vision of the future he decided to become a kind of savior of Russia, saying that Russia should remain Russia without Stalin and the Bolsheviks, albeit having lost sovereignty and independence. And he is the savior of Russia.
  22. +3
    16 October 2019 13: 36
    By order of the Chief of the General Staff Zhukov on June 23, the 4 mechanized corps together with the 15 mechanized corps were to launch a counterattack on German troops in the direction of Lublin.

    But the counterattack was unsuccessful, since orders to the corps came from Zhukov without coordinating with the actions of the commander of the 6 Army Muzychenko, they often contradicted each other and the actions of the corps were directed in diverging directions and lacked unified control.

    Ahem ... since when should the chief of the General Staff coordinate his orders with the army commander?
    Behind these streamlined formulations is a simple fact: Muzychenko, by his actions, thwarted the execution of the NHS order and frustrated a front-level counterattack in the direction of the Germans' main strike - a strike on the rear of 1 TGr, in the interval between German mechanized units and infantry, at the most suitable moment for this.
    The 15th mechanized corps received an order from the front headquarters to launch a counterattack on the German tank units advancing in the Radzekhov region at 18.00:22 p.m. on June 15. Together with the 4th mechanized corps, the strongest XNUMXth mechanized corps in KOVO was to counterattack in the direction of Radzekhov.

    In contrast to the decision of the commander of the 5th Army Potapov, the order of Commander-6 I.N. Muzychenko looks rather confused and actually provides for the use of the 4th mechanized corps to support the defense of the army instead of active flank attacks on the enemy covering the right flank of the army.
    Directions of strikes as conceived by I.N. Muzychenko lies away from what was set in the order of M.A. Purkayev directions from Zhulkiev to Radzekhov. Commander-6 involves blows of the 4th mechanized corps to support the flanks of the 3rd cavalry division.
    In fact, he ignored the order of the front command. The position of the 6th Army was, of course, not brilliant, but there was no reason for panic and convulsive use of the strongest mechanized formation of the front. All the more strange seems such an order in the light of persistent demands to actively use the 4th mechanized corps against the breakthrough of the Germans in the Dubna direction by G.K. Zhukov.

    No matter how hard I tried. G.K. Zhukov wrest from submission I.N. Muzychenko, even the 8th Panzer Division for its use in the direction of the main attack, it was still involved in striking the viscous mass of the German infantry. And one of the best tank divisions of the Red Army in a minor battle lost 19 new tanks.
    © Isaev
    By the way, the throwing of the second more or less complete mechanized corps KOVO - 8 MK - is also largely in the conscience of Muzychenko:
    The commander of the 6th Army intervened most decisively in the fate of the 8th Mechanized Corps, which was put forward for a counterattack in the strip of his army. As early as June 23, he orders the corps commander, D.I. Ryabyshev, push the connection to the area of ​​Yavorov and Grudek Yagelonsky. I.N. Muzychenko reflexively brought the 8th mechanized corps to the front of his army, apparently planning to use it to counter the breakthroughs of German troops. The entire day of June 23 was spent on a 200-kilometer corps march to a new concentration area. What is most sad, this destroyed the construction of the troops of the South-Western Front to strike the Germans on the flank in the direction of the main strike.
  23. VLR
    +6
    16 October 2019 15: 24
    I could say a lot on this topic, but I do not want to repeat myself.
    In 2004 I wrote an article about Vlasov - "The Man from the Bog", published in the journal "History" No. 37. M., 2004, pp. 20-26.


    And I learned that in our country there is a historian-Vlasovite K. Aleksandrov, who entered into a discussion with me, having published an article in the same place "Traitor or a decent soldier"
    I replied with an article A traitor cannot be a savior of the fatherland - History. No. 5. Moscow, 2005 p. 29-32.


    After that, he shut up, and the editors of some publications began to thank me in writing for each material sent.
    And here again, an attempt at "soft rehabilitation", but the snake's heads must be cut off immediately, without waiting for them to become completely bolder and insolent - like the Banderaites in Ukraine.
    You can search the headings for these articles if you want.
    I will give just a small quote from the first article about Vlasov's "exploits" in the Battle of Moscow:
    “The general who lost his army did not lose the confidence of his superiors and already 9 days after leaving the encirclement he was accepted by Stalin, and 10 days later he received a new appointment, becoming the commander of the 20th Army. On December 6, 1941, this army was ordered to attack Solnechnogorsk The offensive developed successfully and this city was taken by December 20. But Andrei Andreevich Vlasov himself, due to an inflammation of the middle ear, arrived at the location of the army entrusted to him only on December 19. Nevertheless, the Inform Bureau reported on the successes of the “army of General Vlasov.” December 31 1941 on the front page of the Izvestia newspaper was published the article "Failure of the German plan to encircle and capture Moscow." Among the photographs of the most distinguished generals was the photograph of Vlasov. "

    Here's a "front-line soldier".
  24. +4
    16 October 2019 15: 30
    On the XNUMXth anniversary of the Victory, a corresponding exhibition was organized in our museum (SHM). And now, when everything was ready and there were literally "five minutes" left before the opening, one of our guys read a newspaper article in one already closed window. This was just an article about Vlasov, which the author writes about:
    For his success, Vlasov was awarded the Order of the Red Banner, the Red Star wrote about him as a capable commander taking care of his subordinates.

    I had to urgently open a window and remove this newspaper and all the other pieces of paper just in case. The director nearly killed the head of the print sources department, and we drove into the storehouse and put the award-winning PCA of Marshal Rokossovsky in place of the newspaper.
    1. +4
      16 October 2019 15: 43
      Sea Cat (Constantine)

      one of our guys
      ,,, bolder Konstantin fellow we understand that the sense of modesty inherent in you wink does not allow bully directly say.
      ,,, the fact is that to me ... That is not to me. To one of my friends ... Yes, to one of my friends. He is my height and age. And the thickness, perhaps ... feel
      1. +4
        16 October 2019 16: 07
        No, Sergey, it was not me, but my friend from the numismatics department, he was engaged in orders and at that exhibition he had a very large selection of awards and honors. My humble idea was only with the replacement of pieces of paper on the PCA. And he really was very good: The lacquered mahogany box, the metal parts are nickel-plated, a silver plate with a dedicatory inscription in ligature on the butt, even the black disk shone like varnished. The male contingent of visitors from this storefront was impossible to tear off. smile
        1. +1
          16 October 2019 17: 07
          Interestingly, and in the State Historical Museum faleristics combined with numismatics? recourse
          1. +3
            16 October 2019 17: 48
            Yes, Anton, they peacefully coexisted in one department. By the way, my friend who discovered the notorious newspaper was called Valery Durov and he had several books on orders and award weapons, if you're interested, take a look on the net. Valera was a real pro, very sorry, he recently died.
            And he was published under his last name and under the pseudonym V. Gimov.
            1. +2
              16 October 2019 18: 14
              Thanks, look, look.
  25. +2
    16 October 2019 15: 34
    From October 1938 he was seconded to China to work in a group of military advisers, from May to November 1939 the main military adviser in China.

    And here I will add a dash to the biography, which explains at least something in the personality of this "commander".
    He was removed from China at the request of the Chinese leadership due to undisguised repeated pedophilia, which somehow did not fit in with the promoted ideas of building a communist society.
  26. +2
    16 October 2019 16: 00
    I read Zhukov's book: "Memories or Reflections", he speaks positively about the 4th mechanized corps, but does not mention the name of the corps commander, but then I read it and wondered why the name of the corps commander was not indicated? The 37th Army and its role in the defense of Kiev is being talked about evasively, but now it is clear why ..
    Regarding his role in the command of the 20th Army, some kind of turbidity. . If he did not command the 20th army then it turns out he was not justly awarded. And in this I can not agree
  27. +2
    16 October 2019 16: 16
    It doesn't really matter who he "was". It is important who he left. And he left a traitor. He will remain a traitor in history. At least he should stay.
  28. +1
    16 October 2019 23: 35
    I watched the dock a movie about him, a friend was a careerist and made a career at the expense of his subordinates, and his more less successful actions at the beginning of the war were entirely due to his chief of staff
  29. -2
    17 October 2019 12: 46
    Who was General Vlasov?
    Communist and faithful Leninist (“wish defeat for his government in the war”). He fought against the Russians since 1919.
  30. 0
    20 October 2019 13: 34
    The head is located so far from the earth that it has not yet reached so many years who General Vlasov is. This does not seem like a miracle if they ask such questions - this is already a joke.
  31. Eug
    0
    22 October 2019 08: 18
    I have the impression that Vlasov broke down, but this does not justify his betrayal ... Sandalov is also an interesting person - at the beginning of the war there was NS 4 army, the commander of which Korobkov was shot along with Pavlov, and Sandalov ... became the NS of the created Bryansk Front!
  32. Eug
    0
    22 October 2019 12: 45
    The couplet was recalled from the Red Army folklore of the beginning of World War II:

    Guns rumbled in bass
    The roar of tanks sang along
    General Comrade Vlasov
    He asked the Germans the heat ..

    At least Mehlis or Shcherbakov
    agreed ... although I think that someone is taller ... so that he was in very good standing. But everything crossed out.
  33. 0
    17 July 2022 14: 00
    Firstly, it would be necessary to clarify what kind of personnel officer General A. A. Vlasov was. And he was, as far as is known, an intelligence general, a strategic intelligence officer with the rank of general. And this may be the real key to his biography. To how he organized the army of Guo Mindan Chiang Kai-shek, on whom he then put the USSR, for which he was awarded, as far as we know, the Order of Lenin. In addition, the intelligence officer, with his experience in organizing the army, was thrown into combat units in the situation of the disaster of June 1941, held Kyiv to the last with the forces of the 37th Army assembled by him on the spot from the wreckage into a combat-ready unit. Yes, and to the future.
    And secondly, to begin preparations for the continuation of the story of Vlasov with a declaration about the end of his heroism near Moscow and the beginning of betrayal, to put it mildly, discredits both the author and the topic. For when considered on the spot, starting from the history of the 2nd Shock Army and up to the battles for Prague in May 1945 with parts of the ROA, which for some reason did not recognize the Act of Surrender of Germany, the version of the most worthy fulfillment of many years of special assignment by Soviet intelligence officer A is much more convincing A. Vlasov, on the eve of its beginning, being thrown into the 2nd Shock Army, betrayed and forgotten in the rear of the enemy, who had a personal meeting with Stalin. The will of the author, but isn't a balanced approach still preferable?

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