Why are there millions of poor people in Russia with large reserves

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Millions of Russians are wondering why, with the enormous wealth that our country possesses, with enormous gold and foreign exchange reserves, many ordinary citizens are forced to live either below the poverty line or in such a way that they often cannot afford anything beyond the usual “food basket”.





Independent experts attribute this state of affairs in the country's economy to a number of unresolved issues, including corruption, misuse of funds, low levels of control, and poor management.

On the channel “Time and Go!” Decided to provide their own explanation of why in Russia there are over 18 million poor with huge resources.

The authors of the video decided to go “on the contrary”, stating that everything is not bad at all in the economy. In the story, the analysis of the situation begins with statistics on cars registered by Russians. This number is growing, which, according to Time Forward!, Is an indicator of an increase in the level of well-being of Russians. At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the number of registered cars is connected between wealthy and relatively wealthy Russians with the presence of the 18 with more than millions of poor people.

Further, he talks about the fact that the volume of Russian bank deposits reached 27 trillion rubles, which, apparently, should also speak of the country's economic success. It also reports that Russia is literally on the verge of a breakthrough.

The full story is presented in the video below. How convincing the argument is, is for our readers to judge.

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  1. +13
    14 October 2019 11: 55
    Why are there millions of poor people in Russia with large reserves
    because "did not fit into the market economy" Chubais (S)
    1. +7
      14 October 2019 11: 59
      From the works of the righteous you cannot make stone chambers!
      1. +15
        14 October 2019 12: 11
        It also reports that Russia is literally on the verge of a breakthrough.
        Jerk where? Punch another bottom?
        With such "effective" managers as ours "he is not Dimon for you", of course we will make a leap ... into another abyss!
        1. +5
          14 October 2019 12: 38
          Jerk to nowhere
        2. -13
          14 October 2019 12: 47
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          With such "efficient" managers

          what is wrong with managers?
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          as our "he is not Dimon to you"

          do you make a conclusion based on a bulk film?
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          into the next abyss!

          List all the abysses in which we have already been, can you?
          1. +11
            14 October 2019 12: 54
            NEOZ (Lawrence) Today, 12:47
            what is wrong with managers?
            All wrong! You have one of the most effective managers of the USSR on your avatar, this is a manager so manager. Under Stalin, Beria and others, we raised the country from TWO for the TWO five-year plans, and with modern managers, we have been treading water for 20 years.
            do you make a conclusion based on a bulk film?
            Just don’t need to write me down immediately in bulk. If I am dissatisfied with the current government, then this in no way makes me related to these garbage.
            List all the abysses in which we have already been, can you?
            Can you list me all the ups?
            1. -8
              14 October 2019 13: 59
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Under Stalin, Beria and others, we raised the country from TWO for the TWO five-year plans, and with modern managers, we have been treading water for 20 years.

              then it was a different time !!!!
              then the journey from T34 to IS3 was done in just 6 years!
              from I16 to MiG15 in 10 years !!!!!
              Now everything is much more complicated ...
          2. Eug
            +8
            14 October 2019 13: 01
            Although the question is not for me, with your permission I’ll try:
            90s, default 1998, crisis 2008, inflation 2014. Not enough for one generation?
            1. 0
              14 October 2019 17: 06
              Quote: Eug
              Although the question is not for me, with your permission I’ll try:
              90s, default 1998, crisis 2008, inflation 2014. Not enough for one generation?

              Here I would like more details. About the crisis of 2008 and inflation in 2014. Reasons? And who passed whom?
              But about the reserves
              . Why are there millions of poor people in Russia with large reserves

              Divide the reserves by 142 million people. We get two pieces of bucks on hand or 140000 p. For half a year we’ll eat it.
              Take the oil:
              10 million barrels a day, one hundred bucks a barrel. Or 365 billion dollars a year. At 142 million population. But this is a hundred per barrel and without the cost of production and transportation. And without taking into account that the stupid passport girl will not even contain anyone. We cross out the state from the share wassat
              More articles about injustice. Destroy, divide and die wassat
              I also think something needs to be changed wassat
              1. 0
                14 October 2019 17: 22
                140000t.r. For half a year? I know one lady she can manage in a month laughing
          3. +12
            14 October 2019 13: 07
            yes elementary, all the same pension reform! Or an innovation regarding child benefits. Topilin, his place in hell, proposed not to pay benefits to part-time workers if another person is taking care of the child. Fine? The same creature, in order to reduce poverty rates in the country .... ATTENTION .... proposed to change the procedure for determining the cost of living.
            Maxim Topilin.
            “Most countries have switched to a different order of determining the subsistence level: it is set as a percentage of the median per capita income,” said Topilin. “The figures are different - from 40 to 60% of median income, depending on the country's economic capabilities.”
            According to him, the current cost of living in Russia is approximately 43% of the median per capita income.
            Topilin did not rule out that the government would discuss the possibility of switching to this procedure for calculating the cost of living. “A lot depends on how accurately and fully we can measure the population’s cash income,” he said.

            On pension reform .... a very interesting bill is being prepared. Very! Long to explain. Today's news: "The government expects to increase the life expectancy of Russians to 80 years."
            In the tax law they are preparing new surprises for us. Those who, after raising VAT, promised not to touch taxes for 6 years.
            Enough ???
            1. +8
              14 October 2019 13: 35
              "The government expects to increase the life expectancy of Russians to 80 years"
              And the living will envy the dead (c) (Treasure Island) laughing .
          4. +10
            14 October 2019 13: 36
            June 30, 1994 completed one of the most important stages in the history of new Russia - voucher privatization.
            They started it in order to save the agonizing economy of the USSR, in which at that time there was a continuous shortage of money, resources, and goods.
            Determining the face value of a voucher, privatizers acted simply, if not
            primitively. The reference value was the book value of enterprises of the RSFSR in 1984,
            amounting to 4 trillion rubles. They decided that 35% of state property worth 1,4 trillion rubles is subject to free distribution. Then they divided this number by the number of inhabitants of the country and rounded up to 10 thousand to make it “beautiful”.
            But these figures were tremendously underestimated, says Vasily Simchera, former director of the Research Institute of Statistics of Rosstat.
            Scientists in the late 1980s estimated US national wealth at 150 trillion
            dollars, and the USSR - at 58 trillion. The share of the RSFSR in union property was approximately half $ 29 trillion, or 1595 trillion rubles. at the rate of 55 rubles. for the dollar in early 1992. Therefore, property subject to privatization could cost up to 558 trillion rubles of that time, and the voucher could give a property right of 3,8 million rubles. The World Bank also called a close estimate: 4,2 million rubles.
            To get the exact numbers, before the start of privatization, it was necessary to conduct an inventory of the assets of all enterprises in the country, right up to the last store. But the Yeltsin government then had another task - to put a voucher in circulation for any price, if only to get rid of the communist regimes that it hated. This happened when millions of people ignorantly sold checks for the price of several bottles of vodka, and a handful of fraudsters privatized factories for nothing.
            https://izborsk-club.ru/17234

            List all the abysses in which we have already been, can you?
            Have you fallen from the moon to us in Russia?
            Or pretend to be amnesized?
            Or are you one of those who created all of this above?
            If neither the first, nor the second, nor the third, then it is better to remain silent.
            Better yet, remove the portrait of Beria.
            And do not disgrace.
            1. 0
              14 October 2019 13: 55
              Yes, this is apparently a note
              1. 0
                14 October 2019 14: 52
                Probably yes.
            2. +2
              14 October 2019 17: 01
              Quote: demo
              voucher privatization.
              She started to save the agonizing economy of the USSR

              And for this, hundreds of American consultants arrived, worried about our misfortune, to steer the Russian government and write a constitution.
              1. 0
                14 October 2019 20: 05
                Yes. That’s why they came.
          5. +6
            14 October 2019 13: 48
            VAT increase, retirement age, cap repair fees, garbage hopstop reform, increase in excise taxes on gasoline, correct if not all the holes are listed
            1. -3
              14 October 2019 22: 17
              "Garbage gopstop reform" - you have something against the fact that the garbage would be recycled and disposed of. Or are you for huge landfills?
              1. 0
                14 October 2019 22: 48
                Why should I pay for recycling? This is a problem of mediocre government. Manufacturers of goods from which this garbage is formed must pay for the recycling. In my opinion, the state should have done the simplest thing, created a price-list for the cost of processing all goods produced or imported into the Russian Federation. For example, a pack of sausages, the cost of processing the package is 2 rubles. Charge from the manufacturer or when crossing the border. And degradable packaging is not taxable, it will be beneficial for manufacturers to use biological packaging.
              2. 0
                14 October 2019 22: 59
                That is, with the introduction of the reform, they suddenly began to recycle and dispose of it?
                Did not know.
                I thought they began to take more money, but they dump it as usual.
                Please tell me the coordinates of the recently constructed enterprises for the processing of all garbage.
              3. 0
                14 October 2019 23: 41
                Quote: Vadim237
                "Garbage gopstop reform" - you have something against the fact that the garbage would be recycled and disposed of. Or are you for huge landfills?

                Since this year, we have increased the fee for garbage three times. The Moscow company included in the payment for the purchase of passenger cars. This is normal?
        3. +1
          14 October 2019 13: 15
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Jerk where? Punch another bottom?

          Alexander, didn’t you even watch the video? I have no doubt about it! You already know everything ....
        4. -1
          14 October 2019 13: 52
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Punch another bottom?

          And what is there to punch? With the sweetest Mr. Pu, the pace of economic development is 1,5 times lower than the Nigerian. To lag behind the blacks ... If this is not the final bottom ...
          1. 0
            14 October 2019 14: 03
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            Punch another bottom?

            And what is there to punch? With the sweetest Mr. Pu, the pace of economic development is 1,5 times lower than the Nigerian. To lag behind the blacks ... If this is not the final bottom ...

            So we are in terms of per capita income along with Gabon .. Africa .. Africa has long been, the bottom has long been broken ..
            1. -1
              14 October 2019 17: 34
              Can you give the numbers to the score of Gabon, or just for a red word?
              1. +1
                14 October 2019 21: 03
                Lithuania 16680
                Barbados 16167
                Trinidad and Tobago 16126
                Россия 10743
                Gabon 7413
                Well, how do you like the numbers?
                In a place of honor in an environment of honor, so to speak.
                Success!
                1. 0
                  14 October 2019 22: 24
                  "How do you like the numbers?" Now let's compare the population of these countries you listed with the population of Russia. And what are you taking the indicators of Russia for 2017 for the current year - more than 12000.
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2019 23: 06
                    2019 year!
                    Japan 39; population 306
                    Russia 12000, population 148000000.
                    I look forward to your top excuse!
                    Not considering that Japan has 10000hx more territory and minerals)))
                    1. +1
                      15 October 2019 03: 18
                      Well, here Japan is not the best example, firstly, in 2000 the Russian economy was only 29% of the size of the Japanese economy, and in 2017 already 64%, i.e. during these 17 years we have grown by more than two, and secondly, the ratio of debt to GDP among the Japanese is one of the worst in the world, for every inhabitant of this country more than $ 93t of debt. And thirdly, the real sector of the economy in Russia is larger than in Japan.
                      1. 0
                        15 October 2019 03: 55
                        Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
                        And thirdly, the real sector of the economy in Russia is larger than in Japan.

                        What is this? Something I do not see our motorcycles, for example, solid Honda. What about a car? Suzuki da Mitsubishi. Even my fishing rod is Japanese. And fishing line with hooks too. crying Where are our products? Where are our IZhaki and Klinskaya? Even my watch has a Japanese Orient. And where are our Commander, Rays, Seagulls, Amber, Glories? All destroyed.
                      2. 0
                        15 October 2019 06: 50
                        A significant part of the Japanese economy is financial speculation and a printing press; Japanese motorcycle watches can no longer be fed. And at the expense of production in Russia, I already wrote, and I will repeat it, in 2016, when I moved to a new apartment, I made repairs, and so we built all our materials, plumbing, furniture, household appliances, all also Russian.
                      3. -1
                        15 October 2019 07: 11
                        Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin
                        made repairs

                        I also did the repair. In 2015 year. Wiring - China, socket - China, the chandelier is also from there. Wallpaper yes, ours. Plasterboard, although we produce, but belongs to the Germans. Glue a moment too, in my opinion.
                        Plumbing? And do you know how much workers received on the assembly of offal for the toilet? 4 (four) and a half thousand rubles a month, with the norm in 350 sets per shift. A disgrace. But the authorities from Moscow in BMW jeeps drove. VOS was released at an invalid enterprise; it was closed this year.
                2. 0
                  15 October 2019 02: 32
                  There is such a concept of GDP at PPP, and to compare at face value, it’s the same as evaluating a spherical horse in a vacuum.
          2. 0
            14 October 2019 17: 41
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            Punch another bottom?

            And what is there to punch? With the sweetest Mr. Pu, the pace of economic development is 1,5 times lower than the Nigerian. To lag behind the blacks ... If this is not the final bottom ...

            That is, before "Mr. Poo", as you say, everything was normal, right? wassat
            1. -1
              14 October 2019 17: 57
              Quote: igorbrsv
              That is, before "Mr. Poo", as you say, everything was normal, right?

              No. And what? You have the thinking of a hereditary slave. Here is the last owner was evil, flogged 7 times a week, and fed 1. But the new - the embodiment of Christ. She flings only 6 times, and feeds as much as 2 times. Throat for him to bite.
              1. 0
                14 October 2019 21: 06
                That's exactly what we think!
                To show "success" they compare it with Yeltsin, that is, in order to show success, one has to compare it with the uttermost ...
                And only against the backdrop of sheer th ... success is ghostly drawn.
                1. -1
                  14 October 2019 22: 32
                  It makes no sense to compare with the USSR - since the planned economy, which provided the country with foreign exchange earnings of just 74 billion dollars, the dollar was then equal to the ruble and the USSR imported products for 68 billion dollars - this is called an economic star, when money is constantly out of pocket give, and in return put a penny.
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2019 23: 44
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    the dollar was then equal to the ruble

                    60 cents, however.
            2. 0
              14 October 2019 23: 09
              Not that you, if before him it was ......, then it’s normal, and it must be supported with all our might
              1. 0
                15 October 2019 13: 08
                Then tell me with whom and how, everyone was fine, and in which country? And do the citizens of that country agree with your opinion
                1. 0
                  15 October 2019 14: 27
                  1. A good attempt to hold the reception of bringing to the point of absurdity.
                  To direct "Everything was good", this has never happened. We are not discussing heaven with you.
                  2. Do the inhabitants of this country agree with me? Do you offer me to personally interview them all?
                  1. 0
                    15 October 2019 15: 45
                    Simply the best attempt in the world to build a just state was the USSR. But it turns out that not everyone was happy. Someone needs fashionable clothes, some need yachts, some need to eat their fill of "overseas caviar", sleep in a warm place, and raise children for joy. If you nod towards China or the United States, the overwhelming majority of their residents will not agree that they live "beautifully". So I wondered who lives well and where, and under what system. It seems to me that people in the DPRK are happier than the rest according to the survey. Or Cuba. Not used to luxury. The oligarchs only feel good everywhere, but everything is always enough for them. I don’t eat caviar. I am sad for everyone. I save on travel. Now I wondered why I need two TVs, two computers, a laptop and other rubbish. Even this Internet with a telephone. I somehow lived without a washing machine, a microwave oven. I read books. There was a lot of free time recourse
                    And now I'm worried about winter tires
      2. 0
        14 October 2019 12: 22
        well, or, the king favors, but the kennel does not favor.
    2. +8
      14 October 2019 12: 18
      All actions of the current ruling government are aimed at hanging noodles for as long as possible in order to profit as much as possible at their expense. That's the whole trick. It is surprising that many still do not understand this and continue to "drown" for this power. And some have understood this long ago, but they are ready to endure this situation because they themselves are well settled. Meanwhile, according to research by RBC, the incomes of the middle class in Russia continue to fall for the fifth year in a row. You don't have to stutter about 21 million beggars. This is at a time when the 21 richest people in Russia in the past year alone became richer by $ 34 billion. Here you can quote Putin: "I ask you to treat this with understanding"
      1. -14
        14 October 2019 12: 27
        Yes. they are falling. and after 14 you were waiting for something else? I, and many of my friends after Crimea, immediately realized that it would be so. someone thought like me that it’s worth it; someone like you apparently thinks that it’s not. Well, for that you can immediately see the civic position of a person.
        1. +12
          14 October 2019 12: 33
          Quote: carstorm 11
          and after 14 you were waiting for something else?

          I would understand everything if these 21 billionaires, who only last year had become richer by $ 34 billion, became poor for the fifth year along with the population. Then it would be clear that the situation in the country is complicated. But, when, under the guise of the Crimea, we are being bred like lo ... s, I refuse to accept this and will do everything in my power to stop this disgrace. Every day my like-minded people are becoming more and more, and, sooner or later, but rather sooner, the critical mass will overflow and then ...
          1. -10
            14 October 2019 12: 45
            I understood and saw your like-minded people many times. screams return Crimea heard enough. only one snag, you are much smaller than others who do not think so.
            1. +3
              14 October 2019 13: 39
              I understood and saw your like-minded people many times. screams return Crimea heard enough. only one snag, you are much smaller than others who do not think so.
              It is a pity that by reading the comments, you are making completely wrong conclusions.
              1. -3
                14 October 2019 13: 50
                I draw normal conclusions. You can certainly rush into the argument that the government is bad and so on. there is only a reason and a consequence. I accepted the reason for my difficulties and I’m not going to look for the guilty. someone always profits from the crisis and someone suffers. it does not change anyway. everyone should understand for whom he specifically. and eat fish and crawl on the stove will not work.
            2. -1
              14 October 2019 17: 17
              And you somehow really straightforwardly manipulate words.
              Your quote: "I understood and saw your like-minded people many times. Return the Crimea I heard enough screams. Only one snag - you are much less than others who do not think so."
              Show me where your aponent "shouted return Crimea" or will you quietly merge or eat what is not specifically here, but IN GENERAL and in general somewhere once?
              Something neater is necessary to try to manipulate, disguise chtoli))
          2. 0
            14 October 2019 17: 36
            And then what? Do you want to destroy the country again? Not tired?
            1. 0
              14 October 2019 23: 18
              And what when? And who wants to destroy the country?
              1. -1
                15 October 2019 03: 08
                I didn’t write this to you, but to comrade kjhg-
                "There are more and more of my like-minded people every day, and sooner or later, but rather early, the critical mass will overflow and then ..."
          3. -2
            14 October 2019 22: 41
            And with what puron should I get poorer with you — you do not play on the international stock exchange, you do not have works of art, you do not have any products produced from all this, you do not invest anywhere — everyone earns money like that.
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 23: 22
              Why do you think the American billionaires periodically publicly and loudly advocate an increase in wealth for the rich, that is, for themselves?
              Yes, because they are wiser, not kinder. And they understand how the world and society work, whether it is good or bad.
              And they do not like birch and lampposts, they want roses and diode lamps in the quiet of rooms
              1. -2
                15 October 2019 14: 52
                Probably because these guys will not lose anything from the taxes introduced, the profit is guaranteed with any tax. So I don’t lose anything from the VAT increase, and since I am engaged in export I have the opportunity to return it.
        2. +3
          14 October 2019 12: 40
          Quote: carstorm 11
          they are falling. and after 14 you were waiting for something else?

          you are a little wrong. Wrong in that. that the incomes of the ordinary population after the 14th fall, and the number of millionaires and billionaires has increased


          Quote: carstorm 11
          ... I thought it was worth it ...

          indisputably! Only the elite took advantage of this. Ask how the "new Russians" are seizing the coast of Crimea, even the one that has not been touched by Ukraine.
          1. -4
            14 October 2019 12: 52
            it has nothing in common with each other. it grows in crisis often. look not at statistics but for example at the list of these new ones. Vsevolod Fear Sotmarket stores or Pryakhin founder of the studio Kefir. these are young ambitious people who could. and what is their fault, for example, when they work with their heads?
            1. -1
              14 October 2019 16: 02
              Quote: carstorm 11
              it has nothing in common with each other


              Well do not tell! GDP exempted you from taxes as a party affected by sanctions? And who was released
              1. -2
                14 October 2019 16: 11
                Well, you say new ones appear. Nobody could exempt them physically from taxes. they just appear now. and state support for large business is normal. if this is not done, they can collapse and it will only get worse. what is more remarkable, one must clearly understand that the personal condition and finances of a company are two different things.
          2. +3
            14 October 2019 13: 18
            good exciting and very simple! Stupidly come and ask for documents for real estate. It's good if they are. But even here they begin to drag and look for inconsistencies with the current legislation. Wring out polls. Comrades from the south settle down along the way. Not everything is so clear yet. But discontent is already growing in Crimea. The scheme is popular: "type for a state object". Then it all goes into private hands.
        3. +5
          14 October 2019 12: 40
          Yes, but then they should fall for everyone.
          Something they do not fall among the most "conscious and patriotic."
          This is where deceit comes to light, like on a litmus test
        4. +4
          14 October 2019 12: 41
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Yes. they are falling. and after 14 you were waiting for something else? I, and many of my friends after Crimea, immediately realized that it would be so.

          Yes, I also thought that after the Crimea, the authorities would simply be forced to clean the ranks and tighten the screws to corrupt officials .. and the authorities decided to tighten the screws on ordinary people .. Of course, it’s easier .. otherwise conflicts in clans will begin .. they took and deprived people of honestly earned money pensions, and then for the heap, they also raised the VAT .. and the poor oligarchs after the Crimea, hurried to exempt from taxes .. how are they ... scribbling over ... and the fact that people are scribbling, the government is clearly not afraid ... they’ll think Zolotov will save .. Damaging internal policy, flawed, immoral, criminal ..
          1. +4
            14 October 2019 14: 02
            And in order not to see anything, you need to take the position of aak karstorm11:
            "this has nothing in common with each other" and "you can, of course, rush into reasoning that the government is bad and so on. Only there is a reason and there is a consequence. I accepted the cause of my difficulties and am not going to look for the guilty. Someone always profits from the crisis. and someone suffers. It doesn't change anyway. "

            Humility and humility = our everything! And they bring "pacification", which some will also defend to the last.
        5. +1
          14 October 2019 13: 26
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Well, for that you can immediately see the civil position of a person.

          They do not understand us. good They take it to another plane ...
          Quote: kjhg
          I would understand everything

          He would understand everything, but not now and not here!
        6. -1
          14 October 2019 14: 00
          Quote: carstorm 11
          and after 14 you were waiting for something else?

          After 45, the situation for the country was many times worse. And the sanctions are real, and complete devastation. And the standard of living was growing. Just at the helm was a ruler, not a defective manager.
        7. 0
          14 October 2019 21: 10
          That is, you sincerely expected that after the Crimea the people would start to get poorer and cuddle up, and the oligarchs and officials to get rich and "lose their banks", to receive citizenship of those countries that oppress us, and so on?
          And thought it was normal? What should happen? And what does not need to be done with this?
          !!!!
      2. -6
        14 October 2019 12: 55
        Quote: kjhg
        hang noodles longer on the ears in order to profit as much as possible at their expense.

        Can you prove it?
        Quote: kjhg
        middle class income in Russia continues to fall for the fifth year in a row.

        and what’s wrong with that? In Ukraine, too, falling, Belarus is falling, Kazakhstan is falling ... everyone is falling!
        even china slowed down 3 times !!!
        !
        Quote: kjhg
        About 21 million beggars at all it is possible not to stutter. This is at a time when the 21 richest people in Russia over the past year alone have become richer by $ 34 billion.

        give an example of countries where it is not so ... in the United States as well, in England as well, in Germany as well ... in Europe, in general, much worse!
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 14: 38
          You are so ... that's just funny
      3. +1
        14 October 2019 20: 18
        Quote: kjhg
        hang noodles on ears for as long as possible in order to cash in as much as possible at their expense.
        And then where with all this good? To Donetsk? Putin is obviously smarter than all those who ascribe to him his secret goal to cash in: he thinks further than one move.
    3. +2
      14 October 2019 12: 31
      The main reason lies in the principles of capitalism. There can be no capitalism without a LABOR market and labor. And this market implies the presence of a reserve - unemployed ..
      This problem will be even more acute in the new technological order .. "The world is on the verge of a change in the technological order. Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Sergei Glazyev is convinced of this .... According to Sergei Glazyev, the integral order combines a market economy, socialist values, private entrepreneurship, strategic planning and other aspects, while the state will play a connecting role between different socio-economic forces and groups to solve a common task - to improve public welfare.
      https://tsargrad.tv/articles/strategija-glazeva-realnyj-proryv-v-razvitii-jekonomiki_141037
      But it is believed with great difficulty that the oligarchs suddenly come to their senses and begin to share the people. ???
      Academician probably. misleading. it is understood that the political system of the state is a reflection of its economic basis ... ??
      1. +5
        14 October 2019 12: 44
        "Why"? Well, for example, in the last Russian company where I worked, like a "boss", having come from a "long business trip" from Cyprus (where he lives) .... gathered a meeting and announced that now, like a "crisis", and because everyone needs to "shrink", it is necessary to reduce the staff by at least 30%, and load the remaining ones with duties "for that guy" at the same salary and, in general, think about replacing the "local aborigines" with Tajik-Uzbeks .... and drove back to Cyprus on a "long business trip" with a new young ̶l̶yb .o̶v̶n̶i̶ts̶e̶y̶ secretary-clerk. My brother in the company, in St. Petersburg, had a slightly different "fad" - everyone was urgently transferred to individual entrepreneurs and to "self-employed" .... smile
        1. -4
          14 October 2019 13: 11
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          "Why"? Well, for example,

          because it’s more profitable !!!!! he is capitalism !!!
          1. 0
            14 October 2019 14: 18
            Quote: NEOZ
            because it’s more profitable !!!!! he is capitalism !!!

            Nonsense. In 2016, New York millionaires lobbied for tax increases, for ... Yes, yes. For the rich. Including one of the Rockefellers signed up. This is capitalism. People think in categories - my grandchildren live in this country. And we do not have capitalism, we have a feeding system. When the territory needs to be milked. As fast and tough as possible.
            1. -4
              14 October 2019 14: 37
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              In 2016, New York millionaires lobbied for tax increases

              Give a link to this statement, I did not find anything like this on the network ...
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              And we do not have capitalism, we have a feeding system.

              however, we have the lowest taxes ....
              .
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              As fast and tough as possible.

              you confuse the Russian Federation with Ukraine .. well, or with Belarus .....
              1. -1
                14 October 2019 14: 52
                Quote: NEOZ
                Give a link to this statement, I did not find anything like this on the network ...

                We enter into the search box "In 2016 New York millionaires lobbied for raising taxes" - we get 10 pages of links.
                Quote: NEOZ
                however, we have the lowest taxes ....

                Bullshit. Insolent. We have the lowest taxes for the rich, and the highest for the poor. We have a fox and which combine with an unemployed wife and child is paid the same. But in some Arizona region, or Oklahoma region, they will take 35 from a fox, and cut the cutter to almost zero by deductions.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2019 17: 25
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  "In 2016 New York millionaires lobbied for tax hikes."

                  there is nothing like that in google .....
                  1. -5
                    14 October 2019 17: 47
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    In 2016 New York millionaires lobbied for tax hikes. "

                    Millionaires of New York offered the authorities to raise taxes for wealthy residents of the state. They set out their initiative in a letter addressed to Governor Andrew Cuomo, reports the Associated Press.
                    “As New Yorkers who have contributed to the development of the state and benefited from its dynamic economy, we have the opportunity and responsibility to pay our fair share. We can pay taxes in a larger amount, ”the letter says.
                    The letter was signed, in particular, by Stephen Rockefeller, Abigail Disney (director, great-niece of Walt Disney) and Leo Hindery (managing partner of InterMedia, which invests in the media business)

                    Billionaire George Soros and several other wealthy Americans have written an open letter to politicians nominating for the 2020 presidential election. The authors of the letter urge them to introduce a tax on wealth
                    “We are writing to urge all presidential candidates, whether they are Republicans or Democrats, to support the law on increasing property taxes for the richest Americans - those who represent the richest tenth of the richest one percent of Americans. That is for us. The basis of tax revenues should be the money of US citizens who are financially lucky, and not people with middle and low incomes, ”the authors of the letter write.
                    Forbes
                    Enough? Or is it enough to realize where the elite is ready to support the country, and where is the hack that is taking out benefits for itself and the increase in taxes for the rest?
                    1. +4
                      14 October 2019 18: 05
                      Quote: Lannan Shi
                      Enough? Or is it enough to realize where the elite is ready to support the country, and where is the hack that is taking out benefits for itself and the increase in taxes for the rest?

                      of course that's enough!
                      it's just a call ....
                      it's populism ... it's cycling to work ... it's speeding tickets for presidents ...
                      it's nothing! ....
                      from the same opera an occasion to bomb Iraq (chemical weapons) ..... they are for world peace !!!!!!
                      give an example of a letter - it's just funny !!!!!!!!
                      you would remember Yatsenyuk with his promises of European salaries and pensions !!!!!!!!!
                      well, he ran around !!!!!!
                      ----
                      you disappoint me .........
                      so much pathos ..... and such a failure .....
                      1. -5
                        14 October 2019 18: 17
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        it's just a call ....
                        it's populism ...

                        Populism is Putin’s nonsense about retirement age, affordable housing, tens of millions of jobs and more. And more than 55 yards, a third of the conditions given only by Buffett and Gates, to medicine, education and so on, this is not populism, but real affairs.
                      2. -5
                        14 October 2019 18: 18
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        this is populism ..

                        Populism is Putin’s nonsense about retirement age, affordable housing, tens of millions of jobs and more. And more than 55 yards, a third of the conditions given only by Buffett and Gates, to medicine, education and so on, this is not populism, but real affairs.
                      3. -7
                        14 October 2019 18: 19
                        Quote: NEOZ
                        it's populism ...

                        Populism is Putin’s nonsense about retirement age, affordable housing, tens of millions of jobs and more. And more than 55 yards, a third of the conditions given only by Buffett and Gates, to medicine, education and so on, this is not populism, but real affairs.
                      4. +1
                        15 October 2019 13: 40
                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        And more than 55 yards, a third of the conditions given only by Buffett and Gates to medicine, education and so on, this is not populism but ...

                        ... 169 dead raccoons on the nose of the American population.

                        This is nothing. And no longer "real deeds".

                        Learn to count, at times eliminating getting into stupid situations wink
                      5. -5
                        15 October 2019 17: 11
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        169 killed raccoons on the nose of the American population.
                        It's nothing

                        First, donate at least 169 kopecks. On the nose of the Russian population. Then you will whistle what is what and what is nothing.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Learn to count

                        410 yards of total mattress mattress charity in 2017. 1250 on the nose. In year. By the way, Russia is not included in charity even in a hundred countries. This is a hint that your morality is somewhere on the level of a Negro cannibal.
                      6. -1
                        15 October 2019 17: 31
                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        Then you will whistle what is what and what is nothing

                        They do not like boors too much, keep in mind.

                        In fact, as it was nothing, it remained.

                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        410 yards of aggregate charity mattresses in 2017. 1250 on the nose. In year

                        This is not a US amount. From the word "absolutely".

                        And this charity is going on, basically, by the same blacks and Latinos. The best members of the community, practicing laughing

                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        your morality is somewhere at the level of a black man-eater

                        I repeat - here they really do not like boors. And about my morality - yes, you are simply not in the subject. Deushko wink
                      7. -8
                        15 October 2019 18: 20
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        They do not like boors too much, keep in mind.

                        Yes, as it were, I do not suffer for you.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        This is not a US amount. From the word "absolutely".

                        Ugums. About five million students have a year of study, accommodation and food. This is if at the prices of Harvard and mit.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        And about my morality - yes, you are simply not in the subject.

                        More than. Even against the background of the average Russian, not sparkling with philanthropy, you look frankly shitty.
                  2. -1
                    14 October 2019 21: 22
                    Here's your finished! as the smartest one, the very first link from the "search engine" google (and advice: stop writing a request on the album sheet with a pencil (the staff of the institution is deceiving you, a year since the sketchbooks stopped supporting Internet access, yeah), it will not give you anything in return , the google search engine is a browser, "you need an Internet-connected" device "(sorry for the harsh word, this is not a hidden curse):
                    "American billionaires have proposed to introduce a wealth tax in the United States
                    25 June 2019, 11:37
                    Alice Govorova
                    CHANALOGS
                    Photo: Izvestia / Dmitry Korotaev
                    A number of the richest people in the United States took the initiative to introduce a moderate wealth tax in the country. In an open letter, they addressed presidential candidates in the 2020 US election, Bloomberg reports.
                    “The next dollar of new tax revenues should come from the most financially successful, and not Americans with middle and low incomes,” the document says.
                    The initiators of the letter argue that the tax on wealth will help eliminate social inequality and will contribute to solving problems in the field of ecology, economy and health.
                    The appeal was signed by 19 people, including investor George Soros, one of the founders of the social network Facebook Chris Hughes, the heiress of Disney, director Abigail Disney and the daughter of vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Charlie Manger Molly Manger. All of them are sure that they must openly declare the need to introduce such a tax.
                    The letter also notes that the initiative has already been supported by Democratic candidates Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttidzic and Beto O'Rourke. In particular, Warren's proposed tax of 2% on assets over $ 50 million and 1% on assets over $ 1 billion will bring about $ 3 trillion over 10 years. "
            2. +1
              14 October 2019 22: 53
              "When the territory needs to be milked. As fast and hard as possible." They just milked all of you poor things - would you like to milk everyone from the 90s and Russia would become modern Romania or Moldova, which would have nothing at all, even a meager economy - would you now travel to all countries like Russian gastrsila.
              1. -5
                14 October 2019 23: 26
                Quote: Vadim237
                Directly milked you all poor things - would you like to milk from the 90s everyone would milk

                Only officially, during Putinism, more than $ 660 billion was withdrawn from Russia. Capitalization of the Top - 100 Russian companies is approximately 6% less. That is, under the wise guidance of Mr. Pu, half of the large business was exported from the country. And if you recall that there is illegal export ...
                By the way. About 90 times less money was withdrawn in the 5,5s than under Putin. Mr. Pu pulls out at least twice as much country as Chubais and companies
                1. +2
                  15 October 2019 10: 43
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  More than 660 billion dollars were withdrawn from Russia.

                  and how much is entered?
                  1. -5
                    15 October 2019 17: 09
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    and how much is entered?

                    660 yards less than the output.
                2. 0
                  15 October 2019 14: 54
                  And invested from the year 2000 to 2015 - 1,5 trillion green.
                3. -3
                  15 October 2019 16: 52
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  more than 660 billion dollars withdrawn from Russia

                  Ay-ay-ay ... but tell me, you know everything for sure - this very "capital withdrawal" is always bad? Or is it not always? wink

                  But in general, yes - a good sketch, delicious Yes
                  1. -2
                    15 October 2019 17: 09
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Ay-ay-ay ... but tell me, you know everything for sure - this very "capital withdrawal" is always bad?

                    It happens well. When you live in the country where you are exported.
                    1. -2
                      15 October 2019 17: 36
                      Quote: Lannan Shi
                      It happens and good

                      Warmly...

                      Quote: Lannan Shi
                      When you live in the country where you are exported.

                      Cold.

                      I'll tell you - purchase, let’s let the lines for the production of something very electronic and advanced - this is also (oh, horror !!!) - the withdrawal of capital.

                      Soo-oo-ui-uiiiiz Yes
                      1. -4
                        15 October 2019 18: 21
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        I'll tell you - purchase, let’s let the lines for the production of something very electronic and advanced - this is also (oh, horror !!!) - the withdrawal of capital.

                        You either drink less or eat more. Well, or do not position yourself as a literate person, and master the arithmetic. At least to the level of understanding what is addition and subtraction.
                        Purchasing a machine, even for a ruble, at least for a trillion euros, will give the number zero in the balance of payments. Axiom. The minus ruble in the graph of the withdrawal of finance, and plus the ruble in the column of receipt of goods give the same zero. Do not believe? What is 1-1 = 0? Then to school. In first grade.
                        And minus 660 yards, this is the excess of export, in all forms: money, goods, services, over all types of import.
                      2. -2
                        15 October 2019 18: 30
                        Ugh. Tired of it already.

                        It was about the purchase of foreign assets. So clearer? The purchased "asset" is not physically transferred to the RF.

                        Or in general - stocks of any thread of what thread of useful ...

                        Your school scheme doesn’t roll here. Thoroughly, thoroughly ...
                      3. -4
                        15 October 2019 18: 44
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        It was about the purchase of foreign assets. So clearer? The purchased "asset" is not physically transferred to the RF.

                        Look at the annual report of Lukoil. And make a discovery for yourself. From the foreign assets of Alekperov, Russia is neither warm nor cold.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Or in general - stocks of any thread of what thread of useful ...

                        Ja, ja. To invest 660 yards in the shares of Western companies, from which taxes are financed by NATO, this is a drop dead for Russia.
                      4. -2
                        15 October 2019 20: 39
                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        Look at the annual report of Lukoil. And make a discovery for yourself

                        Well, why should I not understand what, if you have already seen this something, of course. And even made such a bold conclusion:

                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        From the foreign assets of Alekperov, Russia is neither warm nor cold

                        Although initially it was not only about Rosneft and "Alekperov's assets" - I would still like at least some confirmation of your, IMHO, somewhat excessive aplomb.

                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        Invest 660 yards in shares of Western companies, from which taxes are financed by NATO

                        And again - money for the fish. "Inoactives" are not necessarily the West, and certainly not necessarily NATO countries. And what is this 660 yards, why not a trillion, for example? And how much since those "660", in your opinion, is dripping on the maintenance of NATO?

                        Again, you gave out a lot of emotions, and zero real information on issues. Not the most constructive manner for discussion, I note request
                4. 0
                  15 October 2019 22: 11
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  About 90 times less money was withdrawn in the 5,5s than under Putin. Mr. Pu pulls out at least twice as much country as Chubais and companies

                  And why Chubais, Putin ... with a lowercase letter, and yourself (your beloved (s) with a capital? winked
                  Actually, a named expert on all Rockefellers, Morgan ..., and the direction of all streams of money moving around the world, "Lannan-shea" (in the folklore of Ireland and the Isle of Man, a vampire spirit who is a victim in the form of a beautiful woman, remaining invisible to others ) is correctly spelled like this.
          2. 0
            14 October 2019 17: 23
            In this case, and "anti-capitalism" is such that then there is no one to blame and be offended
        2. +1
          14 October 2019 13: 53
          But the number of self-employed has increased, wait for reports from Russia24
          1. -3
            14 October 2019 14: 10
            Quote: Clever man
            But the number of self-employed has increased, wait for reports from Russia24

            Today I stopped for dinner .. Putin reported on the news 24 .. that they practically quit drinking in Russia, everyone was passionate about sports and, as a result, began to live longer .. At the same time, one can see how regret flashed in my eyes ... I thought ... damn they only raised their retirement age by 5 years, the people then became immortal .... I feel that they will raise their retirement age by another 5 years .. I ask you to be sympathetic .. of course, while I was the president this should not have happened, but who knew that the domestic medicine will reach such heights and Russian people will stop dying ..
            1. -3
              14 October 2019 22: 57
              It’s also very expensive to die today
    4. -3
      14 October 2019 12: 53
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Why are there millions of poor people in Russia with large reserves
      because "did not fit into the market economy" Chubais (S)

      Firstly, a market economy, where the market regulates everything and everything, is flawed and does not bring results. 20 years in these conditions have been clearly shown .. In any large international company, everyone works as planned, a planned economy is the key to their prosperity. And the funny thing is that five-year plans are everywhere .. Everyone lives according to the laws of the USSR, only modern Russia lives according to the laws that the USA wrote to her ..
      Secondly, our managers, who in the overwhelming majority not only experience, but even specialized education do not have stupidly flawed and are not capable of anything ... well, except how to cut the budget .. We have perhaps the only country where the sovereign employees all billionaires .. Actually, they are in power, not in order to make the country better, but in order to "earn" or to cut .. It is in this direction that their head works. I am sure that with this team it will only get worse from year to year ... But the worst thing about this is that the guarantor covers them, which means leave hope ... until 2024 ... whoever enters here and lives ...
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 23: 06
        "We have perhaps the only country where the sovereign servants are all billionaires." In the US Congress, too, all millionaires sit and lobby for the interests of numerous billionaires, holders of monopolies and transatlantic corporations.
    5. -1
      14 October 2019 14: 12
      Russia has one big plus - there is enough in it to be enough for everyone, and there is one small minus - everything has already been seized, and few have got it.
  2. +12
    14 October 2019 11: 58
    Unfortunately, the topic of “crediting” of Russians is not disclosed, at huge interest!
    Debt on loans reached the figure of 16 trillion rubles!
    1. +20
      14 October 2019 12: 05
      while the "time-ahead" program is trumpeting about "victories", in reality, the last customer of "superjets" has left, we collect money for sick children on TV, and an abnormal baby gets 65 million for her abnormal transmission. . no logic. we're peddling. increase the retirement age, but the idea of ​​a 4-day weekend is floating around ... it's a complete "sur".
      1. +5
        14 October 2019 12: 17
        Quote: Aerodrome
        we collect money for sick children on TV, and an abnormal toddler, they give 65 million for its abnormal transmission.

        1. -7
          14 October 2019 12: 22
          Money is collected for treatment abroad. Was there such an opportunity in the USSR - to be treated abroad? Then they would simply say: medicine is powerless and shrug. Now at least some chance.
          1. +4
            14 October 2019 12: 27
            treatment that was too tough for Soviet medicine was usually available only to very wealthy people in the West. Ordinary citizens could not even count on the level that we read as normal.
            1. -5
              14 October 2019 12: 46
              Soviet medicine was free, but far from the most advanced. My relative died of a blood disease that was successfully treated in Israel at that time. Our medicine only helplessly spread its hands. If then free travel abroad was possible, then a person would be saved.
              1. -1
                14 October 2019 13: 07
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                If then free travel abroad was possible, then a person would be saved.

                the problem was not in soviet medicine, but in a concrete hand-gun in place
                it was not necessary to go abroad, but it was necessary to find a normal doctor.
                My mother was treated for 10 years not for what she was sick with. I went to Sochi to have a rest - in 10 minutes the correct diagnosis was made and cured in a week.
                another example is cogs. Great doctors and real flayers often worked nearby.
                I think that the weakest side of Soviet medicine was the production of drugs for non-mass diseases and equipment upgrades. For example, insulin.
                1. 0
                  14 October 2019 23: 13
                  In the absence of modern medical equipment and MRI - in the USSR there were only a few of them and they used the same unit. There couldn’t be any medicine lack of quality medicine - everything rested on the work of doctors.
                  1. -1
                    15 October 2019 10: 39
                    and most diseases cannot be cured, and can only be cured at the work of a doctor and no medicine will help. Now the number of acquired chronic diseases has sharply increased, because the symptoms are suppressed by "drugs", and no one wants to cure them. On the contrary, getting the patient to take drugs for life is the goal of today's medicine.
            2. +4
              14 October 2019 13: 13
              exactly. here with the union you would not even be able to recover for money. because there was no access to these technologies. and now there is.
          2. +2
            14 October 2019 12: 42
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Now at least some chance.

            Seriously? I've been in medicine since 1980. I can compare everything and everything. My dream is on the M-4 highway: do not get sick between Moscow and Yevpatoria.
            1. 0
              14 October 2019 13: 09
              But how does the quality of treatment for viral diseases differ?
              in my opinion, now they do not cure at all - they simply use the antibiotic and it is almost guaranteed that you will get complications after the "treatment". Some less aggressive methods are simply not used.
              1. +2
                14 October 2019 14: 10
                Quote: yehat
                In my opinion, they’re not being treated at all right now - they just inject the antibiotic

                you are not right. on the contrary, over the past two years that I went with my children to an appointment, I prescribed an antibiotic only once. Besides, pharmacies are shaking quite seriously now for antibiotics dispensed without a doctor’s prescription.
                1. -2
                  14 October 2019 15: 51
                  Quote: Less
                  . on the contrary, over the past two years that I went to receptions with children, an antibiotic was prescribed only once.


                  You are lucky with the doctor!
              2. -2
                14 October 2019 15: 50
                Quote: yehat
                now they do not cure at all - they simply use the antibiotic and it is almost guaranteed that you will get complications after the "treatment".


                There is such a complication of antibiotics - pseudomembranous colitis. Often he himself leads to death. So over the past 3 years, he is found as often as I have not seen in 30 years. Their workmanship is poor, uncontrolled use and much more
                1. -1
                  14 October 2019 16: 09
                  Have you noticed that the quality of the strains for influenza vaccination has decreased?
                  just suspiciously the waves of mass infection began to coincide with the vaccination companies (often on buses)
            2. -1
              14 October 2019 13: 12
              Quote: Silvestr
              I've been in medicine since 1980

              and who are you in medicine?
            3. 0
              14 October 2019 13: 24
              Well, you will not deny then that oncology and modern technology were then, to put it mildly compared to the world below the baseboard? and the possibility of treatment appeared only when the Union fell in? that since the 70s the backlog in this area has grown at a tremendous speed?
              1. -2
                14 October 2019 15: 53
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Well, you will not deny then that oncology and modern technology were then, to put it mildly compared to the world below the baseboard? and the possibility of treatment appeared only when the Union fell in? that since the 70s the backlog in this area has grown at a tremendous speed?

                Comparing different centuries is not correct. Now in the EU, the level of development is also not the same
                1. +2
                  14 October 2019 16: 15
                  exactly what you need. when did western medicine open our oncologists remember how they sailed? from acute leukemia in the USSR, 5 percent of patients recovered. and in Europe, almost 70. it’s an abyss. it still needs to be overcome. it's all about talking about advanced Soviet medicine.
                2. +1
                  14 October 2019 17: 28
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Comparing different centuries is not correct. Now in the EU, the level of development is also not the same

                  Well then you always correctly compare !!!! especially since 2014 .... yes? and until 2014, as if nothing had happened!
          3. +2
            14 October 2019 13: 13
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Now at least some chance.

            Well, by the way, yes!
          4. -1
            14 October 2019 21: 31
            Now it has degenerated into: the opportunity to watch how on TV was openly announced to all the president, the Duma, the Federation Council, the richest "patriots", the heads of the type of state corporations watch a child dying citizen of your people needs a huge amount of "Miller's salary in 7 hours" a week remains and everyone is watching whether 20 million beggars will have time to collect a ruble or not !? The curtain...
            But after all, it was worth the top to establish a small fund for such purposes and the effect was not less than the Crimea, but no ...
        2. -5
          14 October 2019 12: 23
          And the point is to collect if the patient is not allowed to go abroad so as not to discredit the most advanced medicine in the world. Yes, and for the same reason censorship will not miss a television with a newspaper. So the patients died on an obscene mattress in obscurity, the Internet did not exist under the USSR.
          1. +1
            14 October 2019 13: 16
            Quote: Sergey49
            And the point is to collect if the patient is not allowed to go abroad so as not to discredit the most advanced medicine in the world.

            you're lying!
            my classmate raised 3 million rubles and took the child to Israel for treatment ...
            as a result, the child is disabled ... but alive !!!
            The Orthodox Church actively participated in fundraising!
          2. +3
            14 October 2019 23: 23
            And it was the same, and in Russia alas, it is the same, because new equipment and medicines for treating types of cancer have been tested for 5 to 10 years.
      2. -1
        14 October 2019 12: 40
        again, they collect money ... and it’s better how in the Union there is one Moscow clinic for the whole country where cancer is treated with more modern means, where can children from other regions not get to? so they now have at least chances and not how then just to watch how it fades away. How many in the Union of Oncology Centers in the country were you recall? zero? what cancer diagnosis was it a death sentence? no need to pull by the ears. now these children have a chance. before it was not even in theory. and the state gives money and funds, and you and I are the normal attitude of society towards such grief.
      3. +1
        14 October 2019 13: 32
        no, the situation in Russia is a classic ANTI-UTOPIA. 1984 George Orwell, V for Vendetta ... and of course Dunno on the Moon.
        Nikolai Nosov at one time wrote a very significant book, since he, in 1965, predicted the situation in Russia in the 1990s. In this book, Dunno gets to the moon and is surprised to find there are a lot of unpleasant features, for example:
        - the country is ruled by oligarchs, the police work exclusively for them and for them
        - all sectors of the economy are monopolized by large corporations
        - competition is not conducted in completely honest ways - racket, robbery, contract killings, money laundering are welcome
        -human poverty and unemployment
        - The media also belong to the oligarchs and serve their interests.
        - the most severe corruption of everything and everyone.
      4. +1
        14 October 2019 23: 08
        And at the same time they continue to produce Super-Guys - not foreign companies will fly so our production continues.
    2. -3
      14 October 2019 12: 18
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Unfortunately, the topic of “borrowing” of Russians is not disclosed

      And also the topic of poverty in the EU and the USA is not disclosed!
      1. +8
        14 October 2019 12: 25
        Quote: NEOZ
        And also the topic of poverty in the EU and the USA is not disclosed!

        Are you interested in the welfare of America? Are you worried about them? Very strange! I'm drumming America
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 12: 50
          Alaska residents are the key word. Texas residents do not receive money. Our peoples of the far North receive the same rent for the extraction of minerals on their lands.
        2. -5
          14 October 2019 13: 19
          Quote: Silvestr
          Are you interested in the welfare of America?

          of course! everything is relative in this world!
          Quote: Silvestr
          I'm drumming America

          You're lying! you are working to undermine the Russian Federation for the good of the United States ...
          This conclusion is based on your manipulative comments ...
          1. -3
            14 October 2019 15: 57
            Quote: NEOZ
            you are working to undermine the Russian Federation for the good of the United States

            The bourgeois class is working to undermine the Russian Federation. And people don’t like it. They react as they can. You are the reaction of people to the undermining of the Russian Federation by the bourgeoisie, you call an undermining. Strange ...
          2. -1
            14 October 2019 15: 59
            Quote: NEOZ
            you are working to undermine the Russian Federation for the good of the United States.


            Yeah, along with Chubais, Medvedev and Nabibulina.
            The straightforwardness of your thinking causes a rash and bad thoughts arise. Pah-pah.
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 17: 32
              Quote: Silvestr
              the linearity of your thinking causes a rash and bad thoughts arise.

              Well, voice, I allow!
        3. 0
          14 October 2019 17: 31
          and where do you get these pictures?
          Do you have them already prepared?
          the fact that from time to time you give out the same comments also pays attention ...
          Do you have a collection of comments that you use?
        4. 0
          14 October 2019 17: 31
          $ 1600 is the average MONTHLY salary of a resident of the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. Want to make good money - go to the Far North.
      2. 0
        14 October 2019 13: 34
        Why are you hanging on to them! Do you care about them more than their country or what? Or is it haunted that people are beginning to "wake up"? Your thoughts are seditious. In the same way, our comrades from the Legislative Assembly and many from the government ponder, compare themselves with the West, forgetting about their country and their own path.
      3. -1
        14 October 2019 14: 25
        Quote: NEOZ
        And also the topic of poverty in the EU and the USA is not disclosed!

        Well, for example, mattress wenders get tens of millions. If you can, the size of this help is 1,5 times larger than our minimum wage. And in an awesome socially-oriented Russia, one in nine is starving.
    3. -2
      14 October 2019 12: 31
      and state residents owe more than $ 13 trillion, and why? and Switzerland is the most loaned country in the world, in principle, and why? Debt is a normal practice in the world. we are not forced to take them. to be able to calculate their capabilities is a private matter for everyone.
      1. +1
        14 October 2019 23: 29
        How can you even talk about such a thing, the guys will break the templates "How shitty and shitty in Russia" will happen.
        1. -2
          14 October 2019 23: 33
          Quote: Vadim237
          How can you even talk about such a thing, the guys will break the templates "How shitty and shitty in Russia" will happen.

          Heh, why did we pay off our debts then?
  3. +10
    14 October 2019 12: 06
    add my 5 words
    firstly, about formal indicators of the number of cars, etc. - These machines remain in a narrow layer of the population.
    it’s just that the family used to have 1 car, now it’s often 2-3.
    Further, the change of machines is accelerating, which also affects the statistics, but not on the real standard of living.
    for other indicators, the same indirect turbidity, when the growth rate is not directly related to the standard of living of the population.

    Now about why so many live in poverty.
    1. climatic and geographical conditions. A normal Russian usually needs a warm house, several types of seasonal clothes, and enhanced nutrition. His work and other important points are often seriously removed from home and, on a bike, getting there is problematic. All this leads to high overhead. Attempts to introduce by copying what works in warm countries are simply doomed to failure.
    2. Also, the government makes us very happy with the heaviest tax press, which makes our life much more expensive and greatly reduces the diversification of consumption. For example, a house of the same value in a standard mortgage with us turns out to be 2 times more expensive than in the USA.
    3. Due to the high overhead, literally everything is needed, dynamic initiative projects are needed to stay afloat, but lobbyists of resource monopolies, oligarchs and banks completely destroyed the possibilities of a normal initiative
    What do we end up with? And we have an unambiguous conclusion that it is regulation at the government level that creates the conditions for impoverishment.
    and they cynically try to deceive the population, constantly showing how successful about 18% of the population that belong to or serve the fat part of the population. And the rest are just constantly fighting for survival.
    1. 0
      14 October 2019 12: 18
      Quote: yehat
      But we have an unambiguous conclusion that it is regulation at the government level that creates the conditions for impoverishment

      1. 0
        14 October 2019 12: 29
        He ashamed?
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 12: 31
          Quote: Revival
          He ashamed?

          he is not ashamed. he considers himself expensive .... well, you know
          1. +1
            14 October 2019 12: 37
            And it’s more like recognition, like Karelin’s
          2. -6
            14 October 2019 13: 22
            Quote: Silvestr
            he is not ashamed. he considers himself expensive .... well, you know

            did he tell you personally? or is it your speculation? citizen provocateur ...
            1. -1
              14 October 2019 15: 55
              Quote: NEOZ
              did he tell you personally? or is it your speculation?


              I understand that you do not read newspapers, the Internet on Sundays, and the source is an information box? In Yandex, hammer the search and you will be happy
              1. +2
                14 October 2019 17: 33
                Quote: Silvestr
                I understand that you do not read newspapers,

                give a link ... otherwise it's "one grandma said" .......
    2. +1
      14 October 2019 12: 31
      Or maybe everything is easier ...
      At the beginning of this year, Russian oligarchs became $ 28 billion richer. ("News" for the first 8 months of 2019). "And if something arrives somewhere, it must go somewhere else." And we also have the State Duma and bureaucrats ... And they are getting richer at the same rate, if not faster.
    3. 0
      14 October 2019 13: 47
      I’ll add to your words the costs of housing and communal services .... medicine and education (they are shareware in nature and, as a rule, are not taken into account by the Government).
  4. 0
    14 October 2019 12: 07
    Gorbachev took advantage of the resources of banks. As a result, citizens' accounts in savings banks were reset, enterprises were left without working capital.
    Central Bank reserves are not a dead weight. They work for the economy.
    1. -2
      14 October 2019 12: 19
      Quote: ism_ek
      Central Bank reserves are not a dead weight. They work for the economy.
      Reply

      But the constitution does not appear to read?
    2. 0
      14 October 2019 12: 32
      Quote: ism_ek
      They work for the economy.

      whose economy? Central Bank reserves remain largely invested in gold reserves and overseas assets.
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 17: 27
        A little over thirty years ago, the leadership of the USSR did exactly what you are proposing. The reserves of the state banks were spent on the "economic breakthrough". The jerk did not work, the money was gone.
        For example, in 1987, a new engine plant was started at AZLK. Financing came from the foreign exchange reserves of the state bank. In 1991, the Ministry of Finance stopped transferring funds for the construction of production facilities that would provide 240 engines per year, including 000 diesel engines. At that time, a little more than 80% of all funds were spent on the allocated credit line. A debt of almost $ 000 million was formed on the balance of AZLK, which sheds light on the further distress of the Moscow plant and its subsequent painful death. All equipment purchased abroad was sent for scrap. Citizens who kept money in Sberkasy lost their funds.
        And there are hundreds, if not thousands, of such examples.

        Why offering to spend the Central Bank’s reserves, you don’t remember the recent sad story
        1. -1
          14 October 2019 17: 46
          Did I offer to squander money to no avail?
          the example of AZLK is just a vivid example of the long-term policy of the Gorbachev group, when investment efficiency was less than 10%. It was she who led the economy of the USSR to crisis.
          and, during the time of Brezhnev, Stalin and even Khrushchev with his bunch of failed projects, investments went with efficiency many times higher.
          By the way, a similar project in Togliatti latched on with a bang.
    3. +1
      14 October 2019 13: 00
      "The reserves of the Central Bank are not dead weight. They work for the economy." Tell us how? Investing in US government securities. But without investing in Russia. I watched today. A roller on YouTube, many members of the government. Have a residence permit in Italy, Sweden, and so on. https://youtu.be/5IeaD3Bcmxc Maybe it's a face but ...
  5. 0
    14 October 2019 12: 13
    In the story, the analysis of the situation begins with statistics on cars registered by Russians. This number is growing, which, according to Time Forward!, Is an indicator of an increase in the level of well-being of Russians. At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the number of registered cars is connected between wealthy and relatively wealthy Russians with the presence of the mentioned 18 million or more poor.

    very simple - by default about the structure of the buyer.
    General Director of the National Bureau of Credit Histories (NBCH) Alexander Vikulin: the share of loans when buying a car is 50%.
    Leading evaluator of the consulting group SRG Alexander Bagretsov: “The average size of a car loan increased by more than 15%, which is explained by the rise in price of cars themselves. The share of cars purchased on credit today is more than 50% of the total number of cars sold. ”
    Cars at a price up to 500 thousand rubles are now available to 20% of Russians.
    Cars cost about 1,2 million rubles are available to 6,6 percent of Russians.
    Auto cost more than 5 million rubles can buy 0,9 percent of the population.
    Again, everything is bought on credit and again not by everyone - only 27.% of Russians can have a car.
    In the end: we say that. what you need and keep quiet about that. which is not profitable
    1. -4
      14 October 2019 12: 29
      Everything is relative.
      How many percent of citizens could afford to have a car in the USSR?
      How many cars were observed on the streets in the USSR in fact?
      How relevant for citizens in comparison with the USSR in the province are private plots, raising pigs, cows and other things?
      1. -1
        14 October 2019 12: 34
        Quote: Mestny
        Everything is relative.

        you can’t argue with that. You're right. The hitch was in the brake, that then there was confidence in the afternoon, the majority. This is not today.
        Previously, they lived poorly, but in a friendly and cheerful manner. Now, each for himself and for himself.
        Not everything is measured by sausage.
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 12: 54
          Why fun to live in poverty? Just then there were no other options. And what was the confidence? What next year will some other goods fall into the category of deficit?
          1. -2
            14 October 2019 15: 46
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Why fun to live in poverty?


            Poverty is a relative concept. Abramovich, probably, also considers himself poor. Dying of hunger? -No.
            Well there was no car, so what?
            1. -1
              14 October 2019 15: 58
              Not a car. So what? There were no goods in stores? Yes and figs with him! Soviet service was modest and unobtrusive. We will live without it. But hope for a brighter future, eternal hope. Have fun flaw!
        2. -7
          14 October 2019 13: 25
          Quote: Silvestr
          Not everything is measured by sausage.

          but in fact the USSR passed for sausage ...
          such as you, by the way!
          1. 0
            14 October 2019 15: 44
            Quote: NEOZ
            but in fact the USSR passed for sausage ...
            such as you, by the way!


            You have a serious gap in your knowledge of history. Therefore, explaining the obvious to you is boring
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 17: 37
              Quote: Silvestr
              You have a serious gap in your knowledge of history.

              on what basis is this conclusion made?
              Quote: Silvestr
              Therefore, explaining the obvious to you is boring

              Explain to those who read us!
              ps
              usually, propagandists use phrases like this: "everyone knows this", "look for yourself", "what can I say to you", "I know, but I won't say" .......
              I ask you to prove your claim that I have a serious gap in knowledge of history.
          2. +2
            14 October 2019 23: 40
            People wanted to live well in the West and everyone wanted freedom very well - for this they gave all the dullness of the USSR, sausage was far from the last factor of decay. But all this in the USSR could have been if not for the idiotic and hollow politics of the CPSU for decades - feeding 123 world parasites for thanks.
        3. 0
          14 October 2019 16: 03
          Quote: Silvestr
          Used to live poorlybut friendly and fun.

          I agree on everything except this.

          Not poor, but modest. If on average and overall. But there were times when Union citizens lived better than in Europe.
      2. -1
        14 October 2019 12: 55
        And how many percent of the population in RI could afford a car? And how many smartphones were there in the USSR? No one. Hahaha Scientific technological progress, you do not take into account?)
        1. +1
          14 October 2019 13: 12
          For some reason, in Western Europe, a car in the 70s-80s was not considered a luxury. Their number per capita exceeded the Soviet one at times. Is this also scientific progress?
          1. -1
            14 October 2019 17: 26
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            For some reason, in Western Europe, a car in the 70s-80s was not considered a luxury.

            But what about the public transport and its accessibility?
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 17: 28
              In Europe, no worse than ours. Some countries are even better. And far from always public transport replaces personal transport.
              1. -1
                14 October 2019 17: 30
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                In Europe, no worse than ours

                now yes. and the speech about 70-80 was ... not?
                1. 0
                  14 October 2019 17: 39
                  In Western Europe, public transport has been developed since ancient times. When did the subway appear in London, Paris and Berlin? When did the tram traffic start in Europe? In the States, I agree, urban land transport is underdeveloped. But I compare the Union with the countries of Europe.
    2. -2
      14 October 2019 12: 34
      in fact, 27% is a high figure.
      the problem is that less than 5% of families can afford a new car without a serious budget drawdown.
      1. -3
        14 October 2019 12: 52
        Once again, I quote my post (I have already cited here more than once) about why having a car is not an indicator of "hidden wealth", namely vital necessity for every person of working age in Russia:

        1-the presence of a car is a necessary condition in many professions, places of work: to go to the client, suppliers, to "shake down" various problems with counter-organizations-subcontractors, visit various "points, branches, deliver something, etc.
        2-work is now for most people far from their place of residence and public transport will have to travel several times longer than by private car, and the waste of time on the road is a critical indicator, since in addition to working at the workplace, you need to do others cases - "family" (for example, to pick up children from the kindergarten, which, again, is now in the middle of nowhere, to take - to bring elderly parents to (from) the clinic, etc.), bureaucratic - the Russian state constantly throws new laws to citizens according to which it constantly something is "obliged" and you have to personally visit bureaucratic offices and organizations - without personal transport is often simply impossible, especially when you need to meet a certain deadline during the "working day".
        3-in modern sleeping areas, where the majority of the population of large cities live, there is simply not enough public transport, or he doesn’t go there regularly and besides, he doesn’t get into it because he is clogged with people who want to go by the bus at the last stops.
        4-choking in public transport for a couple of hours you already get stress in advance, which affects the workplace,
        5-in crowded public transport, coughing, sneezing and a 100% guarantee that you will catch the flu and acute respiratory infections during the season of their epidemic, and "sick leave" in private companies now do not give at all - there is a minimum of staff everywhere, and no one will work for you- you may be out of work.
        6-shopping centers, where prices are lower than in small retail, are located "outside the city" and families where adults work for 10-12 hours (which is now a widespread phenomenon in private companies) do not have the opportunity to "go" to shops, therefore they go to shopping centers and purchase basic products for a week, and here you can't do without your own car,
        7-when you lose your job, "taxing" is the only way not to die of hunger, to provide for your family until you find a new job.
        So, a car for a person of working age in Russia is now a conscious NECESSITY, moreover, a vital necessity ..
        1. +1
          14 October 2019 13: 01
          not everyone works in our society - children, pensioners, housewives, etc.
          if one in four has a car, that covers most of the workers.
          but you are exaggerating that everyone must go by car. I live in St. Petersburg, it is often more convenient and faster to get on the subway. Or you can get quite adequately by bus.
          I personally save a car 3 hours a day, but for many it not only does not save, but even takes time - people just go for comfort in their car.
          Another problem is mobility after work. This is regulation at the city and government levels. It is extremely difficult to move around normally without a car in the United States, it is similar in our village, but in most large cities a car is far from an obligatory thing.
          1. -2
            14 October 2019 13: 19
            I am not exaggerating. I lived in St. Petersburg and I know very well what it is: "to get somewhere by metro and by bus". For example, I remember very well the horror that happened at the entrance (exit) to the Kupchino metro in the mornings and evenings, when the entire population of the surrounding areas burst into (-s) work (work). And also I can't recall without a shudder the trips from this metro station to Budapeshskaya (where I lived then) in a minibus crammed under a gum, driven by a Tajik-Uzbek driving with an inscription above the door - "Use the minibuses of our city! The fastest transport in the city! -20 minutes of fear and you are home! "..... Yes
            1. 0
              18 October 2019 10: 27
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              I lived in St. Petersburg and I know very well what it is: "to get somewhere by metro and by minibus"

              I remembered 10 days in St. Petersburg not only during white nights (figs you’ll fall asleep if you are from the south), namely how to get to the city center (or to the Russian Geographical Society)
              You start with the hostel of the university’s joint venture, take the minibus for half an hour, then the metro station, then again public transport ...
              honestly, we traveled in 10 days more than the Odessa-SP train. Get up at 7 to catch. Honestly, the rhythm of this was not familiar to me (I live in the center and the availability of everything important is calculated within half an hour on any transport).
              The most depressing thing is time / money / watching over gloomy morning faces (for us it was the worst thing, we are young and we have insolation, and in St. Petersburg we frown and everyone goes to work)
        2. +3
          14 October 2019 13: 08
          In St. Petersburg, public transport works above all praise, but most prefer to drive their own cars. Often at close range. As a result, traffic jams and slow-going ground transportation.
          1. -3
            14 October 2019 13: 33
            "Traffic jams?" In the west, they solved the problem of "traffic jams" in cities simply by remaking "intersections regulated by traffic lights" into interchanges, that is, by simply letting one road under the other, in Russia, with persistence (a character from Dostoevsky's famous novel) they continue to sculpt "controlled intersections" even , in new areas because, so trite cheaper, as a result of "eternal traffic jams". Yes
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 13: 41
              Such interchanges cannot be built in the historic city center. Yes, and in newer areas will not work out too much. The city was not ready for mass motorization: under the tsar, there were really no cars; under the Soviets, motorization was restrained artificially. So we got a small bandwidth and a small number of parking spaces.
              1. -2
                14 October 2019 13: 52
                Everything can be built - it is not even necessary to redo everything everywhere - to find bottlenecks and unload them by increasing the speed of traffic (there are a lot of ready-made solutions of various types of complexity and cost and for different conditions, around the world ...). But this requires two things: 1-the desire of the local authorities, 2-money. There is neither one nor the other in Russia. More precisely, the "priorities" of the authorities are completely different. Yes
                1. +2
                  14 October 2019 15: 26
                  How to build interchanges in the center of St. Petersburg, the city-museum? Breaking down historic houses?
          2. -2
            14 October 2019 15: 05
            I’m enraged by the ladies who go 1 stop to the metro by minibus (they won’t spend the money earned by their labor) or they take a child by taxi to the school, which is 200m from the house.
            and there are thousands of them in St. Petersburg!
          3. 0
            18 October 2019 10: 30
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            In St. Petersburg, public transport works above all praise

            no complaints by the way. It works like a clock (scheduled minibuses and subways). Trolleybuses cannot be distinguished from ours. Trams have not tried.
            But, damn it, expensive !! (subjectively, after a minibus for 1.2 UAH on a minibus for 30 rubles!)
            and for a long time ... the location of the facilities necessary to visit both in the Crimea and back impression ..
      2. +2
        14 October 2019 13: 26
        Quote: yehat
        the problem is that a new car without serious subsidence

        and in other countries, right?
        1. -2
          14 October 2019 15: 06
          Quote: NEOZ
          and in other countries, right?

          where how. in developed countries, you can buy something like a Toyota Corolla or Volkswagen Polo for 1-2 monthly salaries.
          1. +1
            14 October 2019 17: 39
            Quote: yehat
            like Toyota Corolla or Volkswagen Polo is possible for 1-2 monthly salaries.

            give examples of countries, as well as mandatory payments per month in these countries ...
            1. -1
              14 October 2019 17: 45
              Quote: NEOZ
              give examples of countries, as well as mandatory payments per month in these countries ...

              France. Peugeot costs one hundred thousand euros. Hard workers pay for 80.
  6. +1
    14 October 2019 12: 16
    Any problem, trouble, always has several reasons / aspects!
    The powers that be \ raking are to blame a priori ..... we ourselves are to blame !!! You can list for a long time, where and how we did what we didn’t have to do, didn’t do what we had to do!
    You can argue for a long time, but really only one thing - look around you! Look at you! make the right conclusions and start acting \ working!
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  8. -1
    14 October 2019 12: 24
    ... the volume of Russian bank deposits reached 27 trillion rubles, which, apparently, should also speak of the country's economic success.

    FOM ("public opinion"): 70% of Russians have no deposits in banks
    Again, a figure of 30% pops up, in which life was a success. The same figure appears in those who bought housing and cars.
    1. -3
      14 October 2019 13: 31
      Quote: Silvestr
      Again, a figure of 30% pops up, in which life was a success. The same figure appears in those who bought housing and cars.

      30% is 44,1 million people.
      able-bodied population is 82,2 million people
      Thus, more than 52% of the working age population of the Russian Federation bought housing and cars !!!!!!!!
      THAN YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. +1
        14 October 2019 15: 33
        Quote: NEOZ
        THAN YOU ARE NOT SATISFIED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        The fact that 70% of the population live in a different dimension. The maturity of society and the state is judged by the lives of pensioners, disabled people and children. You are satisfied that you cannot live on retirement, that money is raised for the treatment of children, and 20 million live in poverty. You are satisfied with this, but I am not. Are you Chubais or a citizen of your country?
    2. -2
      14 October 2019 13: 34
      Quote: Silvestr
      FOM ("public opinion"): 70% of Russians do not have deposits in banks

      Well, you're lying!
      the population has plastic cards in their hands, which means that if there is a card, then there is a bank account !!!!!!!
      I doubt that you did not know about it .... then this is a deliberate stuffing ....
      YOU ARE PROVOCATOR !!!!!!
      1. +5
        14 October 2019 14: 15
        Quote: NEOZ
        Quote: Silvestr
        FOM ("public opinion"): 70% of Russians do not have deposits in banks

        Well, you're lying!
        the population has plastic cards in their hands, which means that if there is a card, then there is a bank account !!!!!!!
        I doubt that you did not know about it .... then this is a deliberate stuffing ....
        YOU ARE PROVOCATOR !!!!!!

        Colleagues, let's keep at least the appearance of Normal, Human communication !!! Fewer personality transitions! Offending others - you first offend yourself.
        The presence of a plastic card does not mean the availability of funds in the bank. The card can be: salary and credit. Ie there is an account - but there may not be money !!! According to various estimates, no more than 15% of Russians use plastic for spending money accumulated in Bank accounts ... in fact, in the World - this is a trend, somewhere better, somewhere worse. In some countries, it is beneficial to live on credit (due to the low interest rate). In Russia - unprofitable! hi
        1. -1
          14 October 2019 14: 52
          Quote: ANIMAL
          Colleagues, let's keep at least the appearance of Normal, Human communication !!!

          Sylvester, a real provocateur!
          he is manipulating the facts! moreover, knowingly!
          1. -1
            14 October 2019 15: 02
            Quote: NEOZ
            Quote: ANIMAL
            Colleagues, let's keep at least the appearance of Normal, Human communication !!!

            Sylvester, a real provocateur!
            he is manipulating the facts! moreover, knowingly!

            Well, you are only from Kindergarten ??? Well then hit him with a spatula or sand throw! laughing
            IN THE SOCIETY - A SPLIT! No need to aggravate it ... the bad but the Writing Sylvester is better than the Good one with the Cobblestone in hand. Same as you! Yes
            Try to start the Civil War - I'll shoot BOTH! bully
            Let's arrange battles with tin soldiers or on the Internet, but ... calmly drinks all by +
            1. -6
              14 October 2019 15: 15
              Quote: ANIMAL
              Try to start the Civil War - I'll shoot BOTH!

              so shoot is my prerogative!
              Quote: ANIMAL
              IN THE SOCIETY - A SPLIT!

              there is no split! elections have confirmed it!
              1. +1
                14 October 2019 15: 26
                Quote: NEOZ
                [quote =
                so shoot is my prerogative

                there is no split! election confirmed it! [/ quote]


                Your prerogative may ... but I, on the other hand, am a master of sports in shooting (poster).
                Elections ... with no show 50%. They can confirm anything. This split - I see on the Site, at the gas station, in the store ... and on.
                Therefore, like a tape recorder - I urge everyone to go to the polls and vote! Everyone will come - there will be no manipulations, they are IMPOSSIBLE!
                1. -2
                  14 October 2019 15: 56
                  Quote: ANIMAL
                  in case of no show 50%

                  nobody held anyone's hand !!!
                  Quote: ANIMAL
                  This split - I see on the Site

                  it’s a cyber military special operation ... it gives the impression of a split in society ... it’s like information processing of the population before the invasion of Iraq ... it allows you to get traitors from morally unstable people ... in the end they get a sharp reduction in losses during the intervention (we came from peace, we came to set you free ....)
                  1. 0
                    14 October 2019 16: 11
                    Yes, well, are you Radical Radicals ... on both sides?
                    Alone Hurray !!! Others Down !!! crying
                    Civil Society - Create Together! And ... without Violence and insults - control the Power!
                    Why the HORSE (cabbage family) to invent the already INVENTED Bicycle?
                    I - I want EVOLUTIONARY changes ... I - do not need revolutions!
                    Cyber ​​military operations ... I also buoy! Cybervoisk - not in Magnit and at the Lukoil refueling ... My life does not go on the Internet.
                    There are many questions to the Government but not Less to the People! soldier
                    1. 0
                      14 October 2019 21: 24
                      Red, white, between them green, two millstones, total?
                  2. -2
                    14 October 2019 16: 46
                    Quote: NEOZ
                    (we came in peace, we came to set you free ....)

            2. 0
              14 October 2019 16: 32
              We do not have a society. At least - civilian.
      2. -1
        14 October 2019 16: 12
        Quote: NEOZ
        Well, you're lying!
        the population has plastic cards in their hands, which means that if there is a card, then there is a bank account !!!!!!!
        I doubt that you did not know about it .... then this is a deliberate stuffing ....
        YOU ARE PROVOCATOR !!!!!!

        Do not see the difference between the deposit and the account? You probably think that this does not happen - there is an account, but there is no money on it, right? And where do you live in general?
        1. -2
          14 October 2019 16: 24
          Quote: McAr
          Where do you live in general?

          But Vadik accumulated pensions for 500 years in advance, and he doesn’t blow into his mustache ... He’s sleeping, I ask him, where did the grandfather get the workshop from? Silent like a partisan.
          1. +2
            14 October 2019 23: 45
            "And over there Vadik has accumulated pensions for 500 years in advance, and he is not blowing ..." Are you jealous?
            1. -2
              14 October 2019 23: 48
              Quote: Vadim237
              Are you jealous?

              No, I'm disgusted. There is such mathematics: Division.
              1. +2
                15 October 2019 14: 58
                Division - what for what?
        2. -1
          14 October 2019 16: 52
          Quote: McAr
          between deposit and account?

          1 penny in the account is this a contribution?
          1. -1
            14 October 2019 17: 03
            Quote: NEOZ
            Quote: McAr
            between deposit and account?

            1 penny in the account is this a contribution?

            Contribution ... This is a reserve for the future and an opportunity for acquisitions and investments!
            If one penny is for you - it solves these problems ... Then - Yes! laughing
            1. 0
              14 October 2019 17: 51
              Contribution - funds contributed by an individual or legal entity to a financial institution (to a credit institution, primarily to a bank) or to an enterprise for storage, for growth or for participation in profit.
              Quote: ANIMAL
              Contribution ... This is a reserve for the future and an opportunity for acquisitions and investments!

              and these are your fantasies ... do not give your fantasies to reality ...
  9. +2
    14 October 2019 12: 26
    Because - capitalism. Those who have assets live well. The one who works for the "uncle" will depend on the mercy of the "uncle", and they do not spoil the common worker.
  10. +1
    14 October 2019 12: 38
    Quote: ism_ek
    Gorbachev took advantage of the resources of banks. As a result, citizens' accounts in savings banks were reset, enterprises were left without working capital.

    firstly, thanks to Gorbachev, all Union reserves were depleted for several years in a row due to his extremely strange economic initiatives - these were frozen thousands of long-term construction projects, and the destruction of familiar income items and the restructuring of the economy to new rules. this is what created the deficit, not
    "the collapse of the soviet economy." This particular crash has a last name and a charge.
    secondly, the means of enterprises and the contributions of citizens are two different things.
  11. 0
    14 October 2019 12: 44
    Quote: To be or not to be
    The main reason lies in the principles of capitalism. There can be no capitalism without a LABOR market and labor. And this market implies the presence of a reserve - unemployed ..

    This is true, but we also work "beggars" okay, only unemployment.
  12. +4
    14 October 2019 12: 46
    Let's start with a simple, well where we are not. As my friend says, yes on the drum where you live if you have a job and good income.
    The country eats up the Soviet legacy. The country has no development guidelines. Having privatized over-profitable segments of the economy, well, such as a private trader will work better, in fact they encountered that the private trader thinks only of his personal pocket, he does not give a damn about the state, especially about our state.
    We are told that we have low labor productivity, such as the Irish are the most, by numbers, but not by fact. What does Ireland produce globally ???, but in this state there are many companies, including Russian, which pay taxes there, a tax haven, and not where these funds are earned.
    Residents of which states are our oligarchs, everywhere, but not in Russia, and this is also not a little money.
    For example, having destroyed the system of the state structure of pharmaceuticals, the state cannot purchase medicines, the private owner does not want to sell them, and begins to dictate its conditions. Additionally, despite the growing number of grain sales abroad, the cost of bread in the country is growing.
    Everything goes in a circle, a hundred years ago, the young Soviet state was already faced with this, it was then worth the blood to resolve this issue.
    The Soviet economy was allegedly not effective. she was socially oriented. They understood very well that not all enterprises were self-sufficient, especially in the fraternal republics, but partial compensation was better than could be done.
  13. +3
    14 October 2019 12: 50
    "The problem is not that we cannot feed the poor, but that the rich cannot get drunk." (from)
    Not mine, but noticed shortly and very true.
  14. -1
    14 October 2019 12: 52
    Because - the trillions of $ generated from the sale of resources flow smoothly from Russia to anywhere, and at the same time, the guarantor and the government cannot be any other way ... and they are not capable of anything else.
  15. -3
    14 October 2019 12: 53
    The authors of the video decided to go “on the contrary”, stating that everything is not bad at all in the economy.

    And all the rulers of Russia believed that the people are living happily, freely in Russia:

    At the same time, it is not entirely clear how the number of registered cars is connected between wealthy and relatively wealthy Russians with the presence of the mentioned 18 million or more poor.

    Remember, at the end of 2018, I was waiting for Putin's promised salary increase for medical workers? I really hoped, but ... I received (or rather my wife received) a decrease in real money by 2 rubles (instead of 200 it became 24) ... More recently, a woman emergency doctor was perplexed how you can get 300 or whether 22 thousand ... Watch the news video from 100:340 and you will understand why we have 23 million poor working citizens:

    Further he talks about the fact that the volume of Russian bank deposits reached 27 trillion rubles, which, apparently, should also speak of the country's economic success. It also reports that Russia is literally on the verge of a breakthrough.

    I can tell you exactly when this jerk will happen and who will tear (undermine) into their foreign apartments ...
    And how fun the morning began ... fellow
    1. +1
      14 October 2019 14: 20
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Most recently, a female emergency doctor was perplexed, as for the worked 340 hours

      Do not tell me the work schedule? I often recycle, but I didn’t even get to that many hours.
  16. +2
    14 October 2019 13: 01
    This is because the storyteller held the handle more than once with the governors, who now live abroad and manage to leave the country with stolen billions before the court orders them to be arrested.
  17. +2
    14 October 2019 13: 03
    I wonder what the statistics will look like if you do not exclude Moscow and the Moscow region. I think everything will be sad there. Moscow and the region in terms of living, yes, at the level of Europe, and the rest of the country is not near.
  18. -3
    14 October 2019 13: 04
    Why are there millions of poor people in Russia with large reserves
    "Because the calf is very small" (cartoon)
  19. 0
    14 October 2019 13: 12
    Quote: carstorm 11
    what cancer diagnosis was it a death sentence?

    But didn’t they begin to fight cancer in the West too?
    Should I list hundreds of rich people who died from him?
    these eternal comparisons of the past of the USSR and today's possibilities of the West are just enraging
    you still say that in the USSR there were not enough cell phones.
    1. -2
      14 October 2019 13: 21
      If we now had the USSR, then cell phones would definitely not be enough. And for the connection would stand in line. And the devices themselves would weigh at least half a kilo.
  20. -4
    14 October 2019 13: 13
    Because the Russian capital is a capital country .... because the industry is underdeveloped, as a result of this is a weak currency and restrictions on its imitation. And without printing money and accumulating debts, any country will live more modestly.
  21. -1
    14 October 2019 13: 14
    Quote: Strashila
    What does Ireland produce globally ???

    In Ireland, all large American companies launder taxes because of the specifics of the law.
  22. -1
    14 October 2019 13: 21
    “That part of our public, in the hostel called the Russian intelligentsia, has one, predominantly inherent in it: it fundamentally, but also enthusiastically perceives every idea, every fact, even rumor, aimed at discrediting the state, as well as the spiritual-Orthodox power; to everything else in the life of the country, it is indifferent. " Plehve, 1886
  23. -1
    14 October 2019 13: 53
    It costs just a little, well, just a little more wait. Well, about 50 years. And we will not have 21 dollar billionaire in Russia, but 21 dollar multimillionaire. And then, if everything goes well, Putin’s ex-godfather will earn a trillion dollars.
    Everything will be fine. You just wait.
  24. +3
    14 October 2019 13: 54
    Till 2014 year:
    pollock cost 60-68 rubles per kg, now 150-178 rubles / kg
    cheese cost 320-350 rubles / kg, now the same varieties of the same manufacturers 570-650 rubles / kg (I do not take into account a cheese product with preservatives and milk fat substitute or unripe "plasteline")
    and so on for products - something where more than 100%, while household incomes have fallen.
    In different regions, of course, differently, but in general, the price increase is noticeable.

    Much more than 50% of the population cannot afford even that meager set of everyday consumption products of dubious quality presented in chain stores (five-piece magnet dixy) - for many of the products, the store margin is more than 100%.
    1. -3
      14 October 2019 14: 45
      And who do you think is to blame (and whether to blame? Maybe this is the norm) is that material mercantilistic values ​​are alien to Russians, most of them are comfortable living, so are they just too lazy to earn more?
      The fact that prices have risen in price since 2014 is not surprising, I want to recall that the enemies tried by all means to crush economic sovereignty in order to rob Russia of our Crimea.
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 15: 55
        Quote: Corn
        that material mercantilist values ​​are alien to Russians


        You don’t speak for everyone;)
        Money is not superfluous - you will hear from 99% of Russians :)))

        Many easily part with money.
        Many take part in charity - compassion is not alien to us.
        He witnessed many times when not rich people at all, saved cats and dogs for their own money, threw off children for treatment - it is a pity that this is not close to the leadership of Russia.
        Otherwise, we would have spent on medicine not 3,3% of the budget, but as in the USA - 24%
        1. -3
          14 October 2019 16: 34
          sorry this is not close to the leadership of Russia.
          Otherwise, we would have spent on medicine not 3,3% of the budget, but as in the USA - 24%

          Firstly, if you think that such "inhuman" leadership is only in Russia, then you are deeply mistaken, the point is not at all in the kindness of your soul, but in the availability of choice.
          Secondly, the country's budget is not rubber, in order to add somewhere, it will have to be taken away elsewhere. Offer to save on social security and state security ???
          1. +1
            14 October 2019 17: 08
            Quote: Corn
            Offer to save on social security and state security ???


            I propose saving on the salaries of deputies and ministers with their deputies - at the same time the stupid prime minister’s team, which even from the devaluation of the ruble could not benefit the economy - well, it’s not their business.
            That is, they are pockets to fill pockets, but not state
            1. -2
              14 October 2019 17: 25
              I propose saving on the salaries of deputies and ministers with their deputies - along with the stupid prime minister’s team
              Oh, that childish populism ...
              Well, let’s say you take away the income from the entire leadership of the country, requisition all their property and assets, get as much as 1% of the country's GDP from all this - and then what? - Anarchy, Maidan and the collapse of the country. Do you want that?
              And I’m still omitting the topic of what exactly did the deputies and ministers annoy you with (I admit, you are against United Russia - the party elected by the people) , since they themselves are bonded, dependent, accountable and not particularly noteworthy among other civil servants.
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              2. 0
                15 October 2019 09: 01
                Quote: Corn
                take the income from the entire leadership of the country, requisition all their property and assets, help out of all this as much as 1% of the country's GDP


                Listen - over the past 11 years, I remember so many cases when state contracts, in violation of the law, were transferred without a competition to the "friends" of the one whose name cannot be named - since 2009 they began to wring out construction contracts for the oil and gas pipeline system - there is definitely not one percent in question ...
                It is enough to see who built the approaches to the Port of Ust-Luga, he took the best pieces of Siberian Force.
                Who in the oil and gas sector has crushed the lion's share of the laying and reconstruction of the pipeline system for themselves - who is taking the main pieces of state contracts for construction work.

                All these data are publicly available - who won or received without a competition.
                Up there, no one has been shy for a long time - they were promised compensation for the loss of foreign assets and personal sanctions after the Crimea, so they indemnify indecently.
      2. 0
        14 October 2019 17: 55
        So why then strangulation from the enemy is felt only by ordinary people, where gasp billionaires and so on
  25. +2
    14 October 2019 14: 08
    As for the statement of the authors of the film - to spend trillions of rubles in the Russian Federation for the purchase of equipment to solve the development program is a utopia:
    Russian equipment, under the conditions of the imposed prohibitive anti-dumping duties on the same Chinese bulldozers (this is to say which "partner" is from the Russian Federation), does not differ in quality, durability and the price is already twice as high as in 2014 - the devaluation of the ruble was compensated by the increase in producer prices by the introduction recycling fee "- which, in fact, is another rent of the state, which has nothing to do with recycling and the fight for the environment (well, it's ridiculous to assume that you can ask 1,5-3.5 million for cutting a pipelayer, bulldozer, grader - which will happen in 10-15 years. ..) put it in a jar and dissolve it in expenses

    Local manufacturers are not stupid - the same ChTZ and Promtractor - they also put a price on their product, without bothering to improve the quality. In general, the tradition of creating special conditions for local producers has always led to an increase in prices rather than product quality.
    Yes, Komatsu and Caterpillar have lost their sales in the Russian Federation, but there is equipment that no one produces in the Russian Federation and it will have to be purchased for a "weakened ruble" and all this leads to an increase in the cost of construction work - which is already off scale in the Russian Federation.
  26. 0
    14 October 2019 14: 23
    Our conscientious work is often not a source of wealth .....
    1. -3
      14 October 2019 14: 48
      Because the work should be in demand (on time and to the place), and not some kind of “conscientious”.
      1. -1
        14 October 2019 15: 32
        These are the categories of warm and soft ...
        And with demand work, too, by the way there are misunderstandings ....
  27. -7
    14 October 2019 14: 35
    Again, local Russophobes staged a kud-kahakh-crow here.
    Everyone scolds Putin and helplessly buzoter for the State Department’s cookies in misfortune to appropriate someone else’s, steal from respected people and divide between useless loafers and drunks
    1. +1
      14 October 2019 18: 05
      Dear people? Who respected? For what dear?
      Or on your scale of values, stealing billions immediately becomes respected?
      Then everything is clear ...
      1. -3
        14 October 2019 22: 20
        Quote: Revival
        Dear people? Who respected? For what dear?

        Generally speaking, this is a typical expression for "living according to concepts", and especially for inmates.
        1. -1
          14 October 2019 23: 12
          So I answered the "corn" in his conceptual apparatus to the comment "Everyone scolds Putin and helplessly loses for the State Department cookies in order to appropriate someone else's, steal from respected people and divide between useless idlers and drunks."
          So I have nothing to do with it))
        2. -1
          14 October 2019 23: 13
          Judging by the comments, you and I are more like-minded than vice versa
          1. -2
            14 October 2019 23: 20
            Quote: Revival
            Judging by the comments, you and I are more like-minded than vice versa

            Um ... Well, I didn’t write about you. She clarified that your opponent’s turnovers are slipping through, which are characteristic of freshly leaning, or simply criminal, personalities. Sorki, which she did not formulate very correctly.
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 23: 33
              So these are written "defenders": "corn" = contradictory (I think an element of disguise); "cat" is a diversion and a washer of any topic = philosopher from empty to empty = "ringing emptiness"; "vadim237" = a cynical entrepreneur (like Chubais); "Lipchanin" (who believes that if slavery is introduced according to the law, then one must be a slave) = ...;
              "Neoz" (nervous, harsh and too vaguely superficial, stupid) = editor (just look at his comments in the correspondence with Sylvester);
              "Govorun" (or something like that) (who said that he was ready to be a slave to Putin, something is not visible, maybe for such a comment he was promoted to corporal); "local" and so on and so on.
              The cat is of course the most skilled))) (the cat is a compliment to you)!))
              1. 0
                18 October 2019 11: 11
                Quote: Revival
                So these are noteworthy "defenders

                interesting characteristics.
                And what for each commentator can make a unique portrait / description?
    2. 0
      14 October 2019 23: 56
      Let these macroeconomic experts in a country the size of Russia - from the beginning, put things in order in their family budgets.
    3. -2
      14 October 2019 23: 59
      Quote: Corn
      Because the work should be in demand (on time and to the place), and not some kind of “conscientious”.

      Who do you work, ear?
      Quote: Corn
      steal from respected people and divide between useless loafers and drunks

      Who is it dear?
      This movie was made during the disaster. When the Soviet Union collapsed. Do you know how many trillions of dollars spent on the collapse of the USSR? Read Matlock’s memoirs.
  28. +1
    14 October 2019 14: 59
    The main problem is that the rich can’t get drunk. That son needs him Lamborghini-Porsche, you see, do not like it. My daughter needs an 4-story mansion in the center of London, since the 3-story manor in a kilometer from the center is already not so. Etc. etc.
    1. 0
      14 October 2019 15: 04
      Everyone gets what he deserves. wink
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 15: 05
        Quote: Ronald Reagan
        Everyone gets what he deserves. wink


        The fact that he will be able to snatch using communications and so on.
        1. +2
          14 October 2019 15: 07
          This is the culture of the population. Hundreds of years of slavery were not in vain.
          1. -1
            14 October 2019 15: 09
            Quote: Ronald Reagan
            This is the culture of the population. Hundreds of years of slavery were not in vain.


            So or something like that was everywhere. Someone has passed this stage earlier, someone has yet to go through it.
            1. +3
              14 October 2019 15: 13
              You see, still ahead. The population has yet to become older and take responsibility.
      2. -1
        14 October 2019 18: 08
        Here I agree.
        I think this is why the "capitalists" professing this approach, then, on occasion, do not need to complain and treat with understanding ...
  29. +1
    14 October 2019 15: 02
    Appealing the number of cars is incorrect. In Russia, there are about 1000 cars per 300 inhabitants (the leader is the USA - 910 cars). According to this indicator, Russia ranks 55th in the world (in 2012 - at 44th). In addition, according to Autostat, the average age of a car is growing. In 2018, he was 13,1 years old, in 2017 - 12,9.
  30. +1
    14 October 2019 15: 08
    Quote: NEOZ
    more than 52% of the working age population of the Russian Federation bought housing

    do you believe in what you wrote?
    1. 0
      14 October 2019 18: 11
      Yes, this is a troll (the conclusion is made on the basis of his comments))) and even "low-quality", works clumsy.
      Never mind.
      He also has "a penny in his account is also a Deposit, so the majority of the population have deposits in banks."
      A normal person is such a shame to carry with people, at least ...
  31. -2
    14 October 2019 15: 14
    Quote: DimerVladimer
    there is a technique that no one produces in the Russian Federation

    in our country there is an extremely high tax burden for everyone who does not sell resources and does not give loans,
    which is approaching a prohibitive level in many areas.
    machines are only part of the problem, which has taken on a total character.
    1. -1
      14 October 2019 18: 50
      what laws are and production.
  32. AB
    -1
    14 October 2019 15: 55
    I wonder why such a srach was bred? Interested in
    Why are there millions of poor people in Russia with large reserves
    - ask the person who owns the information. For example, at Nabiullina, though you won’t get an honest answer from her. Very much this answer, for residents of Russia, will be unpleasant ...
    1. 0
      14 October 2019 18: 15
      there is an answer from bankers - more than 70% of the population have no reserves whatsoever, even that they can live +1 month without money. the number of loans for current needs increased by 40%, mainly to pay for food and communal services.
  33. 0
    14 October 2019 16: 03
    Vladimir Putin will need to not only find a successor by 2024, he will need to step aside painlessly and engage in leadership from the shadows
    This is written by our media. That is, the people in the country DON'T DECIDE ANYTHING in their opinion. While the media will be voicing similar things for the whole country, we’ll definitely not get better
  34. 0
    14 October 2019 18: 15
    How a worker lived from paycheck to paycheck, so he lives. Some live modestly, others live poorly, and others live richly. Here I am writing, and at that time a voice says that some child needs to collect about 5 million rubles for an operation. And people But I have never heard that the rich organize a charity ball for these purposes. This is all philanthropy, and state. There is no project for this case. I may have misunderstood that in the near future the purchase of industrial machines will stop. Maybe they bought it in advance. How much I watch the video, there are foreign labels everywhere.
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 00: 05
      As for industrial equipment and devices in general, on this site https://www.rstradehouse.com/ you will see domestic - so for curiosity in all areas and what is produced in Russia under foreign brands.
  35. -1
    20 November 2019 13: 05
    Why are there millions of poor people in Russia? Because the people themselves elected their own president. We, the people, were not forced to vote for a kleptocratic, comprador, plutocratic regime. No one forced us to believe the cries of "Do you Want How in Ukraine?", "You Want How In the 90s?" We have what we want.

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