In the footsteps of speeches: on the Southern Front, almost unchanged

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Returning to the topic sensational memorial sign in honor of Italian fascists in Rossoshand we return to such topics whenever we consider it necessary to do this, we again have something to say.

This story will be more like a summary from the battlefields, but you know, in fact it is. There is a real war, and by the way, it is time to connect heavy artillery, because the matter already does not look ridiculous. It already smells of tragedy.



But let's go in order.

Our material today will be in two parts. In the text we will tell our part, and in the video, the main fighter of Rossosh with Italian fascism Nikolay Savchenko will tell his.

As for the video, I immediately want to apologize to the modern Germans, I did not think. But then he decided that the modern inhabitants of Germany simply would not do that. Therefore, I ask everyone watching the video to mentally replace the Germans with the Hungarians.



Actually, this is how things are.

But there are indeed positive points.

1. The room in the museum, which tells about the "exploits" of Italian Alpine shooters, ceased to exist. This was told to us by Savchenko, we went to the museum in order to verify this fact, but for some reason it was closed for an unclear reason. It should work up to 15 hours, but ... Alas. Perhaps you need to remove the sticker "Military Review" from the car.

2. The main admirer of the Italian warriors Morozov and his wife are no longer the director / accountant of the museum. What can not but rejoice. Again, referring to Savchenko, we note that the museum has a new and quite adequate director, who, in theory, should not allow such disgrace in the future.

However, the exhibition has not been exported and donated to Italian "friends". She lies in the storerooms, perhaps in anticipation of her time. Dreams, of course, but ...

3. The Investigative Committee in Voronezh entrusted the investigation to Major Ananiev. After reviewing the documents that the major compiled and signed, I want to say that, despite the refusal to initiate criminal cases, Comrade Major recorded several very important points and now they will be in the rank of proven facts.



Namely, it has been reliably established that the bones in the memorial sign were still planted by Italian builders. Human bones, part was removed, part continues to remain inside the sign, turning it completely incomprehensibly into what.

Moreover, the leader of the Alpine shooters recognized in the end the fact of the perfect.



Now go through the negative points. To whom do we have claims after a year.

1. The prosecutor's office of the Russian Federation.

In November last year, a statement was sent from the Military Review media with a request to verify the facts set forth in the article. In accordance with applicable law.

The Prosecutor General’s Office of the Russian Federation adopted a statement of which a notification was sent. Further, the Prosecutor General’s Office sent a notice that the materials were transferred to the Voronezh Regional Prosecutor’s Office. This is normal, it went on an instance.

The Voronezh Regional Prosecutor’s Office also replied that the material was accepted and submitted to the Rossoshansky district prosecutor’s office for consideration and response.

And the prosecutor’s office in Rossosh didn’t react to this matter at all. And she simply did not give an answer. At least, there was complete silence, and no more papers were sent to Military Review.

It is unfortunate, of course, that the regional prosecutor’s office in Voronezh was also not very pleased with the order from the prosecutor general’s office. Apparently, employees who are not too sick of their work work there. Which is satisfied that a level lower, in the region of the Voronezh region they are sitting ... let's say, people who do not bother with work.

Nothing, like honest taxpayers and citizens, we will initiate two more requests upon the release of the material, more precisely, the request and the complaint. It is ugly, and not entirely legal, to leave unanswered statements by citizens of our country.

2. Administrative authorities of Rossosh and the region.

In general, what gets up the administrative resource of the Rossoshansky region causes a feeling of deepest concern and, I would say, a certain disgust.

Let's go from bottom to top for clarity.

Sanitary and Epidemiological Supervision.

Sorry, in the city center, citizens of a foreign country organized an illegal burial ground, where these citizens shoved human remains. The laws on this subject clearly state: ANY burial of the remains should be carried out in specially designated places.

As to how much this "specially designated" place is in general - a curious documentary will be a little lower, although from the video, I think you already understood everything.

Here is a document signed by Tikhonov, senior inspector of the Investigative Committee of Russia.



It follows from the text that the so-called “hat” is an illegally constructed object! No permits, no land allotments, nothing.

What have they reached in this Rossosh! Who wants, he builds ... something. Generally without straining yourself with permissions.

Here's the problem: they wanted the initiative group in the same square to build the Victory Fountain. No, the fountain is impossible. A "hat" is possible.

I’m no longer embarrassed to say: the level of bias of the Rossoshan authorities by Italians is simply amazing. Of course, there is no direct evidence, but ...

Sorry, in the center of the city there is an illegally erected city with the emblem of Alpine shooters, who here 80 years ago did not sell pasta, but quite the opposite. In this city, human remains are buried in a completely illegal way.

And it suits everyone in the administration, everyone likes everything.

Moreover, Rossosh’s administrative resource is persistently trying to protect the “hat” from the attacks of the patriots. Everything is used. It is clear that the chairman of the next committee and society, gently taken by the elbow as the deputy head of the district (or head), will act as it should and sign what is needed. Or cut off his budget.

And there are nowhere to go. Or a deal with conscience and protection of the “hat”, or the budget for next year.

But let it remain on the conscience of all who defend this “hat” with foam at the mouth. If they are ready for such a little to trample the dust of their own ancestors who died in battles with the fathers of the “benefactors" ... No, let’s just get in the way.

By the way, an interesting nuance. Well, as the gentlemen who came from the administration criticized us in the comments to the previous video, for some reason in the administration itself no one wanted to talk to us at that time. We came, we wanted to ask someone how it is from the point of view of officials, but the trouble is: nobody was in the administration. Everyone, you know, went to the front! Holidays, business trips, in the fields ...

On the whole, even now we are not refusing dialogue. But since the museum is magically closed, there is nobody in the administration, so what can you do? We will operate with the facts that we have.









But if the administration of Rossosh and the whole region wants to tell us why they all so stubbornly defend the monument to the Nazis, we are ready to listen. For the sake of justice.

In fact, everything is completely transparent and understandable. You can tell a lot about how the Italian alpine shooters embellished and arranged the entire Rossoshansky area. In fact, it is clear to normal people that they cherish only representatives of the administration of this city. But from the heart.

No, the achievement, of course, that the endless journeys of Rossosh’s officials to Italy are not paid from the budget. The FSB found out for sure, there is no doubt that it is so. And all Rossoshansky traveled "at the expense of the host country without obligations."

Well, how naive do you have to be to believe that? Here it is, an obligation, in the center of the city. With a cock feather and bones inside. Carefully guarded and guarded.

They work out everything in good conscience.

But let's ask ourselves: who benefits from all this?

I turn again to a document drawn up by Major Ananyev.

“... Italian alpine shooters give this garden in order to remember those on both fronts sacrificed himself in the name of duty... »


Dear readers, this is a quote from a memorial tablet on the wall of a kindergarten built by Italian arrows.

One must be completely finished villain, so as not to see in this a dirty attempt to equalize the Italian fascist, who came to distant lands to occupy our land, and the Soviet soldier-liberator, who drove this fascist there.

Did not see? Well then, you are from the Rossoshan administrations.

And we see. It is an attempt to equalize. Say, one duty at all. The Italian, who was forcibly driven to Russia, where he did nothing, only dreamed of peace.

The fighters from the Yulia division so dreamed that they had to be turned by Katyushas into a bloody mess under Valuyki, as they sought peace.

And about the concentration camp, the victims of which in Rossosh’s monument for some reason is not worth it, in which the Italians shot people, it’s also customary to remain silent.

Debt is not alone at all. Debt is a purely different concept. The duty of the Soviet soldier was to free his land from the invaders. It is the duty of the occupier, who stained himself with blood on Russian soil, to die and be buried in it.

Without honors and memory. Because he is an occupier. Nobody called him here.

Why this is not understood in the offices of Rossosh, is understandable. What kind of patriotism can there be when here it is, a longed-for trip to rest in Italy "at the expense of the host country and without obligations."

And the last.

Doesn’t anyone bother with the amount of money spent on this promotion?

The construction of a kindergarten, the numerous "business" trips of representatives of the Alpine corps to Rossosh and Russian officials to Italy - who paid for banquets all these years?

For 15 years this sign or a burial ground in the center of Rossosh stands, and 15 years the amounts spent on rest “without obligations” for Rossoshans are regularly spent.

From what, excuse me, budget?

One office from the past immediately comes to mind, which just like that bought up morally and financially unstable ones in bulk. The CIA. They had enough budget for such (and not for such) operations.

What for?

Everything is simple. The test ball has passed. “All the royal cavalry and all the royal army” can do nothing with the Rossoshansky burial ground. But besides the “hat” flaunting in the center, explanatory work is gradually going on.

They explain that the Italians were not so ... fascists. No, fascism is a purely Italian invention. But not all Italians were fascists. Specifically, these 10 divisions:

52th Torino Infantry Division;
9th Pasubio Infantry Division;
3-I Division "Celere";
2-I Infantry Division "Sforzeska";
3-I Infantry Division "Ravenna";
5-I Infantry Division "Cosseria";
156-I Infantry Division "Vicenza";
2-I Alpine Division "Tridentina";
3-I Alpine Division "Julia";
4-th Alpine division "Kuneenze" - here in them in general there was not a single fascist!

Here in the three attached Camicie Nere brigades (“black shirts” - volunteers) - there are fascists. And in the above - 200 000 pacifists and good people.

So, these fascists were less fascists than others. Therefore, they must be understood and forgiven. And put them commemorative signs.

Who benefits from this? To whom?

It’s clear that it’s not for officials from Rossosh, whose destiny is the golden dream of a free trip to Italy. Here it is necessary to look more seriously for people.

Those who benefit from whitewashing the fascist past, wash their blood and add shine and gloss to the shame with which the Italian warriors who fled without looking back covered themselves.

And we found.

Naturally, not in the Russian media.

Here is a magazine of the aforementioned alpine shooters.





Here is a story about the affairs of the Rossoshansky.



And here comes the place of the next blow.









Nikolaevka. This is where the brave Italian pacifists were finished off by Russian soldiers, to whom this concept was unknown. They, Soviet soldiers, beat the invaders.

Today this settlement is called Livenka of the Krasnogvardeisky district of the Belgorod region. And there, according to information gathered from an Italian magazine, a real, as you see, monument to Italian soldiers is already open.



Do not trust Italians? Well, why, because from the book “We Will Return to Rossosh” we learned about the bones in the “hat”. And now - a monument to the fallen Italian soldiers.

We will visit Livenka. And we’ll try to find out what the local leaders who allowed the installation of such a monument were so fascinated by.

To be continued. We hope that victory will be ours, because our cause is just!

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  1. +7
    15 October 2019 05: 40
    Our people are so quick-witted, ready to forgive even the most terrible crimes that the Germans, Italians, Romanians and other "Europeans" committed against them during the Second World War. We all hope that their psychology has changed, that now they treat us differently. Go to the forest, meet the wolf, try to tame it. Whoever succeeds, can open a museum ... in Ukraine they have already played out and oblivion of memory and in the betrayal of human qualities to beasts.
    1. +8
      15 October 2019 06: 07
      Quote: 1536
      Germans, Italians, Romanians and other "Europeans".

      Monuments for all of the above should be graves with the inscriptions: "He came to us with a sword!"
    2. +8
      15 October 2019 07: 20
      It’s just wonderful that they fought against the similar actions of the administration. Evasion, dodging, illegal actions, venality ----- it would be possible to equate all these qualities of administrators with kolabrationism, because they will resist, they say for friendship ....
    3. +6
      15 October 2019 07: 44
      It’s not a matter of “easy-going,” but of the interest of individual individuals to use Italian “goodies” ..
      1. +2
        15 October 2019 07: 52
        This is already an article of the Criminal Code, but "interest".
  2. +8
    15 October 2019 06: 53
    Who benefits from this? .. If monuments to the White Czechs are erected as liberators of Russia and fighters against Bolshevism, and not spontaneously, but by an interstate agreement between the Czech Republic and Russia ... What can we say about Italians, they also had one of their goals to fight with Bolshevism ... And they died for this "holy" goal .... smile
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 07: 26
      Greetings, Alex! Not so long ago I looked at the network, where the monuments to white-collar workers were erected and saw statements, well, very similar to Urengoy’s Kolya ... such a trend is apparently that they are not to blame for anything ......
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 12: 39
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Greetings, Alex! Not so long ago I looked at the network, where the monuments to white-collar workers were erected and saw statements, well, very similar to Urengoy’s Kolya ... such a trend is apparently that they are not to blame for anything ......

        Of course. At first they are not guilty of anything. Order, duty you understand. This is the first time when it becomes no one to blame for anything. And only later, later, the culprit will still be found. And this guilty person will already be a Soviet soldier. by that time everyone will have learned that Italian (German, Hungarian, etc.) is not guilty of anything. And the Soviet will be guilty, because under the red banner he fought and defended the Bolshevik (Soviet) power. I did not fight on the "right" side.
        And about the trend. Yes, the highest authority in the Russian Federation itself sets this trend! When quietly extincts and belittles the Soviet past of Russia. Look at films about the war. But after all, everyone who was born after the USSR knows perfectly well that they won the war: fines, priests, urki. But the exploits of the Communists and Komsomol? No, they did not hear and did not see, if only on the contrary, they interfered with the war.

        PS We have in this matter, all state policy, one solid Rossosh. hi
  3. +1
    15 October 2019 08: 06
    Complicated topic. As if to do without excesses. To either side.
    The fact that officials for kickbacks in "non-monetary terms" cover the arrangement of such strange monuments with bones is of course wildness. This must be eliminated. But on the other hand, it is possible and necessary to give Italians the opportunity to quietly sit with a glass somewhere (why are they poured into glasses in such cases?) For the peace of their ancestors. There are, after all, military cemeteries, in the same Crimea - both German, Turkish, and French. Everything is adequate - not in the city center, but where they have reposed. This is humanly.
    Is there not a single Italian burial in the Rossosh area? I can't believe it. It should be. Let their "hat with bones" put there. This is logical. Let the ancestors come there to remember - that's right. I even want them to be specially invited here - let the descendants get the idea of ​​how they ended up here, their great-grandfathers, what did they do here? A useful thought. For the future of our, no doubt, friendly peoples.
    1. 0
      15 October 2019 22: 50
      Quote Alex_59 (Alexey) "What, there is not a single Italian burial in the Rossosh area? I can't believe it. It should be. Let their" hat with bones "be put there. This is logical."
      Absolutely not logical. Italian cemeteries, unlike other invaders in Russia do not and should not be. They are their remains under the law of the Roman Empire, which no one canceled, the remains of their soldiers must be transported to Italy. But .. where to remember in Rossosh their compatriots are. A concrete cross was erected at the cemetery on the outskirts as early as the 90s, which in the past was replaced by a marble cross. Everything seems to be normal in human terms. But so no. Put the pig at the table, so she and her feet on the table. It seemed to them not enough at the cemetery, it was also necessary to create a place of honoring the executioners in the center of the pride. So they created the illegal grave of an unknown fascist.
      1. 0
        16 October 2019 20: 16
        Which of the two signs was installed earlier, in which year?
      2. 0
        16 October 2019 20: 44
        Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
        ... They according to the law of the Roman Empire, which no one canceled, they must transport the remains of their soldiers to Italy ...

        Is it strange that after transporting the bulk, there are still many bones left on the surface, or is it not their bones? Under the hat, there are still unidentified remains, whose unknowns, possibly not even human ones.
        In the Roman Empire, all the remains were not transported, too much and not always possible, especially not the old burial places.
  4. -2
    15 October 2019 08: 12
    And when will we start erecting monuments in Italy?
    The answer is clear.
    Never.
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 08: 38
      Quote: Stils
      And when will we start erecting monuments in Italy? The answer is clear. Never.

      The monument to Russian officer Alexander Prokhorenko, who died in the spring of 2016 during a combat mission in Syria, was unveiled in the Italian city of Valle Sotto.

    2. +1
      15 October 2019 09: 00
      Fedor Poletaev has monuments in Italy in the cities of Genoa and Cantalupo Ligure. And it seems like a street named after him in Genoa. And I think that’s not all.
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 22: 14
        You are talking about our monuments. But ours were not Fascists. Right?
    3. +1
      15 October 2019 09: 14
      In Switzerland there is a monument and museum of Alexander Suvorov, as well as a memorial cross carved into the rock.
    4. +2
      15 October 2019 15: 21

      Monument to Soviet citizens - fighters of the Italian Resistance movement in Milan.
  5. +2
    15 October 2019 08: 19
    in all the "achievements" of the authorities there is a desire to eradicate everything Soviet, from history itself to the uniform of military personnel
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 22: 17
      A monument to anti-fascists has the right to be anywhere in any country, including Italy. But the grave of an unknown fascist in the former occupied city should not be under any circumstances, except for the re-occupation. And this is exactly the case in Rossosh. This is a repeated, now moral occupation under the sauce of "friendship", of course.
  6. 0
    15 October 2019 08: 35
    Monuments to our enemies in our land ...

    How to relate to this? Although not. The question is not posed correctly. It will be more correct: how to present it. If our children are brought to their graves and explained that these invaders came to our land to kill us, rape and rob, and our great-grandfathers buried them here, then this, in light of the destruction of the monuments to our soldiers, is probably not so badly. The memory of our victories, albeit in this form, should be.

    In general, it all depends on how to present it, on the formation of the majority opinion about it, otherwise it may not remain any visible memory to our victories.
    1. 0
      15 October 2019 09: 26
      Quote: Boris55
      If our children are brought to their graves and explained that these invaders came to our land to kill us, rape and rob us, and our great-grandfathers buried them here, then this, in light of the destruction of the monuments to our soldiers, is probably not so badly.

      Absolutely not the right approach. We are a strong people, and a strong one should not hold ceremonies of celebration on the bones of the defeated. Children are little men who have not yet been spoiled by the social sphere, and for any healthy person, someone else's death causes pity, and we must assume that such pity in pure children's souls will necessarily originate on the graves of enemies. Therefore, it is necessary to show children the places of heroism of our people, and not the graves of enemies. On the 35 battery in Sevastopol, Khatyn or Babi Yar. The image of the enemy will then be created by itself.
      Quote: Boris55
      The memory of our victories, albeit in this form, should be.

      I doubt that my grandfather would be delighted with the idea of ​​taking his descendants to the German military cemetery in Crimea, and not to the 35 battery, on which he stood until the last defending Sevastopol, and where he returned as a liberator two years later. Our soldiers should be remembered, and these fascists do not spit in the long run. Lie - and let yourself lie.
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 12: 14
        Quote: Alex_59
        and in any healthy person, someone else's death causes pity ...

        Pity for the enemies - not when. Pity for the innocently killed - yes.

        Like there at Pushkin:
        ..So send us to, vitia,
        His angry sons:
        There is a place for them in the fields of Russia,
        Among the coffins not alien to them ...

        Here they are coffins, and here are the orbits, who are looking after a place for the funeral of their grandchildren.
        We do not need to make kolizuringoya out of our children.

        Quote: Alex_59
        Therefore, it is necessary to show children the places of heroism of our people, and not the graves of enemies.

        And this must be done first of all, but since the bourgeoisie hates everything that is connected with the Red Army, with its victories, so we need to turn this situation in our favor.

        Quote: Alex_59
        and these fascists do not care by and large

        So it is necessary to explain to our children, at the places of their graves, that not only Germans, but almost all of Europe, came to us with the war. Let them know, see and understand.
        1. +2
          15 October 2019 13: 12
          Quote: Boris55
          Pity for the enemies - not when.

          With you and me, people who have seen life - yes. And the child does not. The child is guided by universal human attitudes, since he simply did not have time to gain such life experience to begin to separate the death of his own (sorry) and the death of strangers (not sorry). My opinion is that we will provoke the emergence of new "schoolboy Kolya from Urengoy." In the dead fascists, many will see primarily victims and martyrs (they died). And in general, to an abstract look - a school cult trip to the cemetery (!) Is some kind of primitive game. We are a victorious people, this is not permissible for us. It's my opinion.
          1. 0
            15 October 2019 22: 26
            So this hat with a feather is not in the cemetery, but in the very center of the historical part of the city. In the most prestigious place. That is the whole point. Near the cemetery on the outskirts there is another monument to the soldiers of fascist Italy. And for children there should be an exposition in the museum, which would talk about the local concentration camp and the destruction by the fascists of our people. including women, old people and children. Then, this will bring up the correct understanding of the dangers of fascism as an ideology.
        2. 0
          15 October 2019 22: 30
          The Italian according to their own law should not have burials in other countries. They must exhume everyone and transport the remains of all discovered soldiers to Italy. And you propose to take children to illegal (according to the laws of the two countries), according to the thieves, secretly equipped grave and raise our children. Complete nonsense. You are either a faraway person or a provocateur protecting traitor officials.
        3. 0
          16 October 2019 20: 23
          The most acceptable fate for the graves of the invaders is oblivion.
      2. +1
        15 October 2019 12: 50
        Quote: Alex_59
        I doubt that my grandfather would be delighted with the idea of ​​taking his descendants to a German military cemetery

        I think the same way. I remember when on a village street at the gates of the houses of veterans a red star with a St. George’s ribbon always flaunted, so that everyone would know: The participant and the leader of the Victory lives here. They were proud of this sign and there were not so many of them, but over the years they almost disappeared, left with the veterans themselves. I was a boy proud that there was such a sign on my grandfather’s house. And I remember how he was transformed, becoming youthful when he wore his awards on the Victory Day, which he got along with his wounds.
        And I think it’s good that he, an ordinary Soviet soldier, doesn’t see all this. hi
        1. +1
          16 October 2019 08: 43
          Yes, many veterans did not live to such a shame. But even few front-line soldiers and prisoners of the Italian concentration camp in Rossosh are still alive. And how do they look at the monument to the fascists who arranged them during the years of occupation, real hell on earth.
          1. -1
            16 October 2019 09: 30
            Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
            Yes, many veterans did not live to such a shame. But even few front-line soldiers and prisoners of the Italian concentration camp in Rossosh are still alive. And how do they look at the monument to the fascists who arranged them during the years of occupation, real hell on earth.

            Good morning. I love Rossosh, the city where I went to first grade. And I treat the Russians with love and respect. I know that in their bulk, they are very good and not indifferent people. And the fact that the struggle against such a structure takes place, it is subject.
            But, like almost everywhere, people with their own views are separate, and the authorities with their own, unfortunately, are also separate. hi
          2. 0
            16 October 2019 20: 32
            Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
            Yes, many veterans did not live to such a shame. But even few front-line soldiers and prisoners of the Italian concentration camp in Rossosh are still alive. And how do they look at the monument to the fascists who arranged them during the years of occupation, real hell on earth.

            Which of the veterans signed the appeals you initiated?
            Perhaps this is your flaw?
            In the media of a city, district, or region, there were interviews with veterans and prisoners of a concentration camp in Rossosh on the crimes of Italians? Documents published?
            Crimes of military personnel of specific units of the invaders in neighboring areas? Documents published?
    2. +1
      15 October 2019 22: 21
      Dear, do not carry nonsense. Who will stand at the fascist grave and explain it? Violated the law and moral principles. You can not honor the soldiers of the fascist army of Mussolini under any sauce. This is a betrayal of our victory, won at a tremendous price.
    3. +1
      15 October 2019 22: 41
      Boris, if you are Boris, not pepper working for pennies for corrupt officials. Is there really not enough brains to understand that our feet have wiped out our national dignity. And officials for a piece of pizza sold our small homeland. What other options can there be, how to clean the square from a cattle cemetery (because the fascists are not people who bury their babies alive) and change it into Victory Square.
  7. +5
    15 October 2019 09: 32
    And I already wrote and said that when Putin advises to go to court, he does not even know what it means to be sued in our courts. Our court wins the one who has money or power! And in our courts you will be tormented by justice and truth search !!!
  8. +4
    15 October 2019 10: 37
    In the center of the city, an illegal burial ground was organized by foreign citizens, where these citizens shoved human remains.
    They spit on our laws using the venality and stupidity of the administration and this is at our place, is it any wonder that the monuments to our soldiers are demolished ....
  9. 0
    15 October 2019 22: 35
    https://yadi.sk/i/-FH6ZniD963-aA Полюбуйтесь на этого пресмыкающегося прессекретаря главы района, как говорит наш Президент, деятеля с пониженной социальной ответственностью.
  10. 0
    15 October 2019 23: 31
    I am amazed at the meaningless inflections of commentators. But even more surprised that in Rossosh there was no patriot-bulldozer who would have picked up this sign of betrayal of our Great Fathers and Grandfathers, who destroyed the Nazi evil. This does not work for us in Belarus. Vladimir Volk.
    1. +1
      16 October 2019 08: 39
      They will sew a criminal article and jail for "vandalism." We intend to legally achieve the demolition of this shameful grave. Although ... if the law worked and the prosecutor fulfilled his mission long ago, the square would have been purified and renamed into POBEDA Square, since the zealots sought to rename it in St. Gnocco Square, a fascist chaplain during the occupation.
  11. 0
    16 October 2019 20: 51
    Dark story. All the remains were given in vain indiscriminately.
    The Japanese also took "their" remains, on a tip from the locals and according to documents. Later, on the basis of a genetic examination, they found out that these were not Japanese, now they do not know what to do with them (with the remains).
    “Over the past 10 years, the remains of almost 600 people belonging not to Japanese prisoners of war, as Tokyo suggested, but to Russians, have been removed from the Trans-Baikal Territory to Japan. This was reported by Kyodo. For several years, Tokyo exported from the Russian Federation the remains of Japanese prisoners of war who died on the territory of the USSR after the end of World War II. At some point, the experts who conducted the audit found that the remains may not belong to Japanese citizens. As a result of DNA tests, experts found that most of the remains do not belong to the Japanese. The remaining samples may not belong to Japanese citizens "with a high degree of probability", reports TASS. So, part of the remains taken out from the cemetery of the village of Borzhigantai in Transbaikalia may belong to local residents. According to Tokyo, after the end of World War II, about 55 thousand Japanese prisoners of war died in camps in the USSR and Mongolia. The remains of 33 thousand of them still remain on the territory of the former Soviet Union and Mongolia. ”
    https://www.politforums.net/foreign/1568911871.html
    It is possible that in Rossosh the "alien" remains were slipped to the Italians. Only, unlike the Japanese, genetic testing will not help.
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      16 October 2019 23: 30
      Leonid, what does the Japanese have to do with it? And what does all the remains have to do with it? The question is that there was an attempt by revanchists to make heroes of the soldiers of the army of the fascist state. And this is the main crime against the memory of our front-line liberators and against the memory of the victims of the occupation, both soldiers and civilians. And the bones removed from the pedestal, no matter who they belonged to (although it is known for sure that they were dug up in the cemetery so far in the investigative committee. And who could have slipped other people's remains into Rossosh? They relied on a guide, Susanin, on the contrary. their sworn friend. And at this cemetery there was an official exhumation. So the bones are 100% Italian, otherwise why would they salute and consecrate them according to the Catholic tradition. Revanchists, of course, bastards and impudent, but not complete. But they burned because of of their vanity, publishing a book in which there was simply a confession. And then they confirmed the fact of laying the bones on camera, but they began to mow under the idiots, they say, we don't know whose bones. Yes, we don't care if you know or don't know. the pantheon of the "glory" of the Second World War in Italy and celebrate as much as you like. ty.