Kurds want help from Russian aerospace forces to create a no-fly zone

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The command of the Syrian Kurds, members of the "Forces of Democratic Syria" (SDS), demanded that the United States either stop the offensive of the Turkish forces and the Syrian Free Army (FSA), or give permission for negotiations with Damascus and Moscow with the aim of creating a Russian airborne forces without a zone in the north- east of Syria. It is reported CNN with reference to an interdepartmental document of the US government.

Kurds want help from Russian aerospace forces to create a no-fly zone




According to the transcript available to the channel, last Thursday a meeting was held between the commander of the Kurdish forces as part of the SDS Mazlum Kobani Abdi and US deputy special envoy to the international coalition against IS (forbidden in Russia) William Rubak. At the meeting, Kobani accused the United States of betraying the Kurds and demanded either to stop the Turkish operation "Source of Peace" or to give an opportunity to conclude an agreement with Damascus and Moscow so that the Russian air forces close airspace over northeast Syria.

You do not want to protect people and you do not want other forces to protect us. You sold us. It is immoral. I need to know if you are able to protect my people and stop the bombing or not. I need to know this, because if you are not able to do this, I will need to conclude an agreement with Russia and the regime to invite them Aviation protect this region

- leads CNN statement Kobani.

According to the channel, the US representative asked "not to make any decisions immediately" and convey the words of the commander to the US State Department, assuring that Washington is doing everything possible to stop the Turkish operation.

Earlier, Reuters reported that the Kurdish command requested the United States to create a no-fly zone over northeastern Syria, since the main losses of the Kurds are due to Turkish air strikes.
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  1. +34
    October 13 2019
    Kurdish General Mazlum Abdi hoped for the United States yesterday, today they want to sign the Russians. they don’t care, if only they don’t fall from above.
    1. +27
      October 13 2019
      There will be an example for Ukroreykh and everyone who has "The whole world is with us !!!" Maybe it will finally come ...
      1. +22
        October 13 2019
        Maybe it will finally come ...

        To whom, to banderlog? Yes, you’re a little joker, however, there is hatred in our direction at the diaper level, with mother’s milk sucked.
        1. +12
          October 13 2019
          Kurds want help from Russian aerospace forces to create a no-fly zone

          Late there everything was divided between the Turks and Damascus, and we suggested that the Kurds enter autonomy in Syria. They refused, they believed the mattresses, now somehow ...
          1. +12
            October 13 2019
            They need to ask for help from Ukraine. Such sages should stick together. Together they are power.
            1. -9
              October 13 2019
              Pereira, explain your thought
              1. +17
                October 13 2019
                This is not some kind of deep soap, but ernic. Proposal to create an international club of the battered and abandoned. And in our case, according to matrishnyh.
                I read in the news, the Poles are already trying on a situation.
                1. +1
                  October 13 2019
                  At the meeting, Kobani accused the United States of betraying the Kurds and demanded either to stop the Turkish operation "Source of Peace", or to give an opportunity to conclude an agreement with Damascus and Moscow so that the Russian Aerospace Forces closed the airspace over northeastern Syria.

                  It seems that the Kurds have just come to their senses that they are a corrupt "toy" in the hands of Washington in the interests of the United States in the BV.

                  But actually, the Kurds themselves are not very reliable.

                  Kurds too not one among themselves. Kurds - this is by and large not a people in the CLASSICAL sense of the word, but just a grouping of different ethnic groups from Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria, located in the oil-bearing regions of BV. Therefore, the "Kurds" are capable of betraying anyone themselves. It is more expensive for Russia to negotiate with them.

                  Why Turkey began the invasion of Syria. Published: 10 Oct 2019
        2. 0
          October 13 2019
          there is hatred in our direction at the diaper level, with the mother’s milk sucked.

          Only there are not all of them.
          1. 0
            October 14 2019
            So I did not say this, I wrote a hundred times who I consider to be Ukrainian, to list for a long time, I will say briefly - all those who are adequate and do not see Russian enemies, namely brothers in blood and mind. Even more, I will reveal the secret, I have a wife with whom we have been living for 43 years, a thoroughbred hohlushka.
      2. 0
        October 13 2019
        Quote: Rostovchanin
        There will be an example for Ukroreykh and everyone who has "The whole world is with us !!!" Maybe it will finally come ...

        =======
        Hardly! As the popular wisdom says: "Only the grave will fix the hunchback"
    2. +6
      October 13 2019
      they don’t care, if only they don’t fall from above.

      Rather like this: "they don't care who is on top, if only not for free"

      Well, let them now slurp their happiness through a strainer. But the Americans are great, of course, soon no one will believe them at all. It feels like Trump in international politics does not plan to go beyond two steps)
      1. +5
        October 13 2019
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        It feels like Trump in international politics does not plan beyond two steps

        This is if you think that Trump continues the work of his predecessors, but Trump has other goals - to smoothly lower the United States to the level of a regional power. If you look at his work from this perspective, then everything that he does looks quite logical. If the Clintonoids prevail, then they cannot escape a civil war.

        Turkey's invasion of Syria will help Trump with the withdrawal of his troops, which he promised.
        It is for us to make the Kurds more accommodating in establishing peace in Syria.
        Turkey - will satisfy its ambitions.
        Europe will not receive another batch of refugees.
        Even the Clintonoids are delighted, the barmalei who are in Kurdish prisons have fled.
        1. +3
          October 13 2019
          but Trump has other goals - to smoothly lower the US to the level of a regional power.

          What a raving nonsense. Trump is simply, consistently fulfilling one of his promises made to his voters during the election campaign - "to get rid of all kinds of parasitic dependents", in fact, giving nothing to the US people.
          1. +3
            October 13 2019
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            What a raving nonsense. Trump just ... "get rid of all sorts of parasitic dependents"

            You wrote the same thing as me - Trump refuses the role of the United States as a hegemon. If the hegemon does not need at least half the World, this is no longer a hegemon, but an object for bargaining.

            In the 90s, the USSR abandoned its "dependents" (third world countries, socialist countries, socialist republics) and where is the USSR now? The United States will take into account the same. The only question is the degree of bloodiness.
            1. +1
              October 13 2019
              And they did the right thing that they refused - assistance for decades to these rogues, the USSR economy went bankrupt.
        2. 0
          October 13 2019
          ... Trump is not a stupid person ... he sees very well that the arctic fox has already come to them ... - there is no gold, the army is in a deep pope ..., - as in a joke - * .. under the chin is a board, in the eyes of longing and .. the door is on the hook .. *.
          1. -3
            October 13 2019
            Quote: ver_
            he sees very well that the arctic fox has already come to them ... - there is no gold, the army is in deep pope

            Hmm, let me guess your favorite TV channel. Russia 1? lol
      2. +1
        October 13 2019
        It feels like Trump in international politics does not plan to go beyond two steps)

        What if Trump is an American Gorbachev and from the inside shakes the states to our joy? wink
      3. 0
        October 13 2019
        The Americans in Iraq have already abandoned the Kurds, but in such a way as to remind them that their eternal benefactor lives beyond the seas and oksiyami. Most likely it will be so now. Kurds are in no position to be offended very much and in America they know this very well
      4. 0
        October 13 2019
        Agent Trump is trying hard so that the rest of the world does not have illusions about Matrasia! Our person!))
    3. 0
      October 13 2019
      Quote: Aerodrome
      they don’t care, if only they don’t fall from above.

      Not without it. They do not hide their MAJOR goal - the creation of an INDEPENDENT state.
      On our part, you can offer them protection, but provided that El Kamyshly is handed over to the Syrians and our air base is organized there, it’s painfully good the airfield there, in many ways
      1. 0
        October 13 2019
        You were there to say that
    4. +8
      October 13 2019
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Kurdish General Mazlum Abdi hoped for the United States yesterday, today they want to sign the Russians. they don’t care, if only they don’t fall from above.

      The Kurds set a record for the speed of changing shoes. No, it certainly warms the soul that Russia is perceived there as a force capable of solving problems, unlike the Americans, but I do not think that Moscow will trade in order to save a dubious "partner" to spoil relations with Ankara. Naive "Nanai boys" from the Pentagon think that for the sake of Kurdish whims, the Russian Federation and Turkey will enter the stage of a showdown and quarrel, which is generally in line with the US strategy, but this will not happen.
    5. 0
      October 13 2019
      Yes, this is a typical stuffing for Western viewers, to show the corruption of the Kurds in order to avoid criticism of the withdrawal of the American contingent from Syria.
      1. 0
        October 13 2019
        Yes, this is a typical stuffing for Western viewers, show the corruption of the Kurds


        I agree. It is hard to believe that the Kurds put the ultimatum of the United States, and even impossible bluff. And do correspondents sit at such negotiations? Yeah, I believe.
    6. 0
      October 13 2019
      So the Kurds wanted "independence", so let them, independently of everyone, deal with the Turks now lol
  2. +31
    October 13 2019
    It is unlikely that ours will go for it. VKS are fighting on the side of Syria, we sell weapons to the Turks. Why do we need the Kurds, who at one time chose the Americans as allies ??!
    1. +3
      October 13 2019
      Russia did not support the United States Security Council’s press statement on Turkey’s military operation in northern Syria. They gave diarrhea to an American and who relied on them.
    2. +16
      October 13 2019
      It is unlikely that ours will go for it.
      Probably. If they did not support the Americans in Normandy, then they didn’t help us either. In the Iasi-Chisinau operation, for example ....
    3. -1
      October 13 2019
      .. and the remains of the teachings of Ulyanov = Blanca ...
    4. -2
      October 13 2019
      Interests are what determines whether they will help or not.
  3. +19
    October 13 2019
    Very interesting.
    They are asking for "permission from the United States to negotiate with Damascus and Moscow."
    So it’s not peppered yet.
    Brains did not fall into place.
    "The White House will help us."
    It will help ... at the funeral.
    1. +5
      October 13 2019
      Quote: Livonetc
      Brains did not fall into place.

      This is chronic in them.
  4. +12
    October 13 2019
    Kurds are not satisfied with autonomy, they want to create their own state, but only on oil-rich lands. There are only problems from the Kurds.
    1. +1
      October 13 2019
      Kurds wanted independence ?! Well, we respect their choice. So let her
      (independence) now slurp full ladle
  5. +12
    October 13 2019
    It’s time for everyone and at all times to remember: Americans always betray their allies.
  6. +14
    October 13 2019
    You sold us. It is immoral. I need to know if you are able to protect my people and stop the bombing or not.
    Dear Kurds, "America is with you", everything is OK!
  7. +2
    October 13 2019
    So for the Kurdish politicians a bitter hangover came. After the brudershaft from the USA. To Assad, apparently, conscience is not enough to turn to.
  8. 0
    October 13 2019
    belay Hope in Russia that it will cover these slow-thinking-ridiculous.
  9. +2
    October 13 2019
    Oops! .. I Did It Again!
    Oops, I did it again!
    Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
    Yes Yes Yes.
    Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
    Yes Yes Yes.

    American folk song - the author is not known - folk music
  10. +1
    October 13 2019
    Want, many want and much more! It’s much more useful to think before scatter.
    However, the same DREAM and PROMISES of a big brother, there was no time to think, there was nothing to doubt .....
  11. +7
    October 13 2019
    What are the Kurds so difficult? When they were offered help and cooperation, they moved to the striped ones, now they are reaping the fruits of their short-sightedness. I especially liked "You sold us. It's immoral.", Since when did the striped ones become "moral", their whole policy is immoral, starting with the destruction of the Indians. And who said that our VKS will provide something to the Kurds, themselves, all by themselves. Henceforth, there will be a good lesson with whom to play in the "political" sandbox.
  12. +2
    October 13 2019
    The Kurds urgently need to buy an F35 squadron from the United States, and then the Yankees will surely provide their protection - in the sense, the F35 protection. lol
  13. +1
    October 13 2019
    You sold us. It is immoral.
    Damn, they discovered America. Like they are the first.
  14. +4
    October 13 2019
    "..... if you are not able to do this, I will need to make an agreement with Russia and the regime to invite their aviation to defend the region ... "

    Naive blackmailer Kobani. tongue
  15. +9
    October 13 2019
    laughing laughing The Kurds have one salvation, lay down their arms and ask Assad to quickly call the GDP. And then I think it's too late. laughing
    1. +1
      October 13 2019
      The Kurds have one salvation, lay down their arms and ask Assad to quickly call the GDP. And then I think it's too late

      And what will they do? Just for fun laughing
      1. -1
        October 13 2019
        They can. Maybe even everything, not something. But the phones are all exhausted, and for some reason no one takes a word for the Kurds (like the Ukrainians). Strange .. laughing laughing
  16. +3
    October 13 2019
    And let's say that the United States declares a no-fly zone. Well, it will help the Kurds. What shall we do then? To the Turks? Assad?
  17. +2
    October 13 2019
    It is curious, but what are the Kurdish comrades going to pay us for because we are harnessing for them against the Turks?
  18. -2
    October 13 2019
    Or maybe in spite of Nate and Sasha to revive the Warsaw Pact?
    1. +5
      October 13 2019
      Quote: Andrei Gurov
      Or maybe in spite of Nate and Sasha to revive the Warsaw Pact?

      With whom? With Warsaw? "Nata" has long eaten not only all the former participating countries, but also ate pieces of the USSR, eliminating a similar problem for itself.
  19. -5
    October 13 2019
    I think Russia will still issue Russian passports to the Kurds))
    1. 0
      October 13 2019
      We in Russia have Kurds with Russian passports. Yezidis are. From the same region. Better Donetsk with Lugansk faster issue. There are at least Russian majority.
  20. +3
    October 13 2019
    Here's how you can talk with people and countries that are friends with the United States? Here's how you can be friends with Poland and the Baltic states? That is, the Kurds want to be friends with Russia, and follow the instructions of the United States? Just sit on two chairs! Only the grave will correct such cunningly made or Turkey!
  21. +5
    October 13 2019
    As I understand it, the Kurds will now be pickled until they start asking for a united Syria. At that moment, ours will appear and offer to solve everything at the negotiating table.
  22. +7
    October 13 2019
    I think that this is a Russian-Turkish agreement on the survival of the Americans from Syria. The point of all this is to show the Kurds that they didn’t bet on that and that it’s time to pay the bills, that is, join the ranks of the SAA and complete Assad’s cleansing of the country and maybe then they’ll get at least some autonomy. Now the question is whether Sultan Erdogan will throw some kind of fortel. And the idea is good. I assumed that it would be so.
  23. +3
    October 13 2019
    it seems that the Kurds are local Ukrainians .... They went to the United States, were the guides of their interests, and when the Americans sold them, they decided that Russia was still burning with a desire to help the Kurds !? :) Just like the Ukrainians!
  24. +1
    October 13 2019
    Sorry and the Russian Federation why is this?
  25. +5
    October 13 2019


    I need to know this, because if you are not able to do this, I will need to conclude an agreement with Russia and regimeto invite their aviation to defend the region



    I would like to note that as long as the Kurdish command does not stop calling the Syrian government "regime", that is, does not recognize it as legitimate, there will be no help from this side. Assad has no interest in defending the armed fronder, who see him as a usurper. If the Kurdish "generals" do not understand this, then either let them give up their place at the microphone to Kurdish diplomats, or they are doomed. Since it is extremely dangerous for Syria to unleash an air war with Turkey, the air forces of the countries are not comparable either quantitatively or qualitatively. And our contingent will not help here either.
    1. 0
      October 15 2019
      Cool logic. Have you reviewed the first channel?
      The Syrian government, instead of dialogue with OUR CITIZENS (and Kurds are Syrian citizens) who just want cultural AUTONOMY, incurs a foreign intervention on them to permanently lose part of its territory on which an even less friendly regime will be established for this government, with the prospect of completely rejecting this territory.
  26. +2
    October 13 2019
    It is very easy for us Russians, the great people who won the most terrible war in the history of mankind, to give out nicknames and hang labels. It is difficult to be a nation with failed statehood. Divided into several countries.
    Russians are also a divided nation. But recently, there has been hope for a revival of a single Russian state. The Kurds have no such hope. hence the throwing errors. Forgive them and understand.
    1. +6
      October 13 2019
      Unfortunately, many (yes, practically all) here on the forum do not even understand who the "Kurds" are and everything connected with them. Here at the link I am giving an article where everything is "rasszhavan" "about the Kurds" (and not only) without preferences and antipathies in sufficient detail, read for general development, I advise: https://marafonec.livejournal.com/5618968.html Yes
      1. +2
        October 13 2019
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Unfortunately, many (yes, practically all) here on the forum do not even understand who the "Kurds" are and everything connected with them. Here at the link I am giving an article, where in sufficient detail everything "about Kurds" (and not only) is discussed without preferences and antipathies, read it for general development, I advise: https://marafonec.livejournal.com/5618968.html

        An interesting article, I read it with pleasure. hi
      2. 0
        October 13 2019
        Thank you for the article
      3. +1
        October 14 2019
        The article is interesting! Written in accessible, live language! Without political correctness! Learned a lot about the topic!
  27. 0
    October 13 2019
    a meeting took place between the commander of the Kurdish forces ... and the US deputy special envoy (banned in Russia) in the international coalition against ISIS

    That would sound more true! laughing
  28. +2
    October 13 2019
    To the Kurds at the beginning of the entry of troops into Syria, they offered autonomy in exchange for cooperation .. They refused! Now such a situation.
    And here is still not mine, but I agree to all 100500

    1. Kurds in the Syrian conflict are not allies at all. They tried to play their game, but they did not succeed. Why? Because they contacted Washington.
    1.1. And they turned into the word tool - a tool perfectly describing their condition. And the used tool is thrown away. What we see - Trump leaked them. Not Russia (because they themselves chose the side, and did not become our allies), namely the United States.
    1.2. I have been writing for many years: the Anglo-Saxons always throw everyone. They themselves admit that "there are no eternal allies, there are eternal interests." And therefore, doing business with them is more expensive. Pinochet, Noriega, Saddam, Mubarak and many others would confirm, but they are dead. Trump said bluntly: "We gave the Kurds weapons, ammunition, money - we owe them nothing more."
    2. Syria proposed introducing its regular troops into the territory of the Kurds, and the Kurds refused to suppress the terrorists. Russia proposed introducing its military police into the territory of the Kurds - the Kurds were bargaining. Let now the most cunning yellow traded with Erdogan. Russia and Syria offered them an option with broad autonomy - but they thought “Amerik z nama”, they also believed in Washington’s promises of a “Great Kurdistan”.
    3. For some reason, everyone is convinced that this military operation is Erdogan's personal decision. Does it occur to anyone that Rejepczyk became so impudent just because he now has Putin’s umbrella? No one wonders why Erdogan has not practically climbed out of Sochi lately. And that this operation is absolutely unambiguously agreed with Moscow. And no “victorious takeover of the entire Middle East” will result. Most likely, the goals, objectives and parameters of this operation were agreed upon at a recent trilateral meeting of the leaders of Russia, Iran and Turkey. And even the “dissatisfaction” expressed by Iran can be formal and be part of the plan. Then, in this particular case, this is not the imperial ambitions of Turkey (which no one denies), but Erdogan is carrying chestnuts out of the fire for Putin and Assad. There was a zone under the control of American proxies - and now it will not be. Turks, as members of NATO, are driving the United States out of the region.
    4. Comrade Bagdasarov said "the Kurds were ready to raise Russian and Syrian flags over their positions and allow the military police, but they asked for autonomy - and then the Americans changed their commander."

    Here is a political situation .. hi I do not mind the Kurds ..
  29. 0
    October 13 2019
    demanded that the United States either stop the advance of the Turkish forces and the Syrian Free Army (SSA), or give permission for negotiations with Damascus and Moscow

    Here it is - "independence". Determined by the length of the leash.
    It is immoral.

    Woke up!
    ... the US representative asked "not to make any decisions immediately" and convey the words of the commander to the US State Department, assuring that Washington is doing everything possible to stop the Turkish operation.

    Yeah. In general, the troops are going to withdraw from Syria like, ISIS won, you can go home. As in that anecdote about a talking parrot: "Well, you are acting out here, and I flew."
  30. +1
    October 13 2019
    they are there in the bandits who fought against Assad kiss and dare to ask for help from Russia .. They will not die of modesty ... but from arrogance they can ...
  31. 0
    October 13 2019
    I need to know this, because if you are not able to do this, I will need to conclude an agreement with Russia and the regime - All these words are of course caressing to us, but they are primarily published for internal use in the United States (another stone in the Trump garden ) !!!
  32. +4
    October 13 2019
    The rzhaka itself is that the Kurds, like the Ukrainians, were also yelling - Omerygasnam, but it turned out like that.
  33. 0
    October 13 2019
    35 million Kurds have the right to autonomy and residence in their territories on human terms, and not based on the handouts of countries between which they were forcibly divided by half-crazy English hook-makers ..
  34. 0
    October 13 2019
    With Wishlist to the USA. We have our own Khochuk, with whom you did not want to negotiate. laughing
  35. 0
    October 13 2019
    History does not teach Kurds anything. In Iraq, they have already been thrown with a referendum on independence. Iraqi and Turkish troops quickly explained to them the malignancy of this idea.
  36. +1
    October 13 2019
    You can want help from Russia. But every year it rises in price for idiots. What in return?
  37. 0
    October 13 2019
    Cool article.
    Comments are informative.
  38. 0
    October 13 2019
    The Kurds themselves need to decide .... they are still those "faithful" allies. And among themselves they have graters. There, someone is for the Turks, and someone is against ...
  39. 0
    October 13 2019
    laughing laughing Playing with matches near the oil barrel will not bring to good.
  40. 0
    October 13 2019
    demanded that the United States either stop the offensive of the Turkish forces and the Syrian Free Army (SSA), or give permission to negotiate with Damascus and Moscow with the goal of creating a Russian airspace system for a no-fly zone in northeastern Syria.
    Now you do not demand awake and ask on your knees. laughing
  41. 0
    October 14 2019
    Figas conceit in a person. He thinks on the first whistle Russia will rush with Turkey to fight for it.
  42. -1
    October 14 2019
    It’s just that you shouldn’t rush into this mess and put your forces in a clash with the Turks. Russia should play subtly, I hope that all those responsible are well aware of this.
    1. 0
      October 15 2019
      In fact, a great historical chance appeared to take the straits and create a friendly Kurdistan. But as always, everyone is profound ...

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