A new record for the reception of migrants. Is the population dissatisfied?

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Oh, these intolerant Russians ...


According to the opinion poll conducted by the Levada Center, xenophobic and nationalist sentiments sharply increased in Russia. The proportion of people who would like to restrict their residence or stay in a country of a certain ethnic group increased from 54% to 71% in just a year. And this is after over the course of several consecutive years the level of such sentiments in the country fell.

A new record for the reception of migrants. Is the population dissatisfied?




Let's clarify something right away. The question is not about the fact that 71% of the population does not want to see people from other countries in our country. For example, gypsies would like to limit about forty percent of those surveyed in their right to stay. The share of those who do not want to see Chinese in our country has grown from 15 to 39 percent. People from Central Asia do not like now not 19-ty, but 32-m percent. And so on. But the sum of those who would like to restrict entry to at least someone now is 71%. An impressive number.

Of course, if there was democracy in our country, the authorities would react to these moods of the population not with endless mantras about how we need migrants, but with measures to limit the entry of different kinds of foreigners into the country for work and permanent residence. But here, as you know, democracy is somehow strange, not quite “direct,” so the authorities immediately rush into explanations and significantly shrugs their shoulders: oh, these Russians don’t understand the obvious things, they decided to doubt the benefits of multinationality.

Our reality is somewhat different: according to the data of the Russian University of Economics named after Plekhanov, the current year may be a record for the number of migrants accepted by Russia. In total, according to some estimates, their number will reach 12 million people, which will be approximately 8% of the total population of the country. Note that we are talking about migrants who do not yet have the status of a citizen of Russia. How many migrants are already our fellow citizens and do not fall into any lists is a separate issue, but it is enough for us that Russia takes the fourth place in the absolute number of migrants accepted.

Strictly speaking, it cannot be said that the number of migrants in us was somehow off-scale. In the United States, experts have about 50 million migrants. In the relatively small population of Saudi Arabia - 37 million. Russia with twelve million migrants shares fourth place with Germany, followed by Great Britain and the UAE with eight.

The percentage of the absolute leaders of the Gulf countries is the UAE with 88% of migrants, Qatar with 65% and Bahrain with 48%. And against the background of these indicators, we do not look so bad ...

Numbers are nothing, details are everything!


True, there are some nuances. In particular, the Gulf countries are trying to attract mainly migrants from Muslim countries. India stands somewhat apart, but tens of millions of Muslims live there, and it’s hard to say what percentage of the large enough Indian diaspora in the UAE or Qatar are Muslims. In addition, there is one extremely important difference from our case - there is very strict legislation. Therefore, a migrant who is seen in improper behavior or is convicted of a crime can easily be cut off his hand or head. Partly because of this, the local population does not feel much negative towards migrants: they behave in a law-abiding manner, they try not to conflict with the authorities or the indigenous population, local traditions, albeit on pain of death, are respected and respected.

In fact, it’s quite difficult to say why right now the share of radically-minded Russians has jumped up sharply to “pre-Crimean” indicators. Many attribute this to a general deterioration in the economic situation, but then it is difficult to understand why in 2015-2018, this share was steadily decreasing. What, the economic situation of Russians then rapidly improved? Alas, nothing of the kind: in some years of this period, the level of our well-being fell much more significantly than now.

The following version looks much more plausible: then, against the backdrop of Crimean euphoria, trust in the current government was simply going through the roof. Of course, her arguments regarding the need to attract migrants were perceived by society much better, they believed in it and thought that the authorities understood what they were doing.

Probably, everything changed precisely after the pension reform and some other government initiatives, which completely exhausted the credit of trust in the authorities. People began to perceive much more critically the information that pours onto them from television screens, and what used to seem like a good argument, when critically examined, suddenly turned out to be a propaganda dummy.

Of course, economic problems affected too. This was especially evident when respondents were asked the question of the possibility of restricting labor migration: 72% of respondents agreed with this measure. And this, mind you, in spite of the endlessly sounding mantras that our economy will not survive without migrants, that our cities will drown in mud, that some industries will collapse, and so on. People have ceased to trust this “Yaroslavna’s crying”, and not without reason: as practice shows, many countries dispense with almost no migrants (especially labor), but the streets there will be cleaner than Moscow ...

A pinch of intolerance


In general, the endless talk of fatalities for Russia of Russian nationalism is becoming very doubtful against the background of some countries in which national movements came to power. And a particularly striking example is India.

After the nationalist party Bharata Janata Party came to power in India in 2014, this country finally emerged from the long string of crises and economic impasse in which, strictly speaking, all the last years of the rule of the Indian National Congress have been. At the same time, multinational and multiconfessional India did not fall apart, did not blaze with a series of national or inter-confessional conflicts, did not slide into a civil war, but develops quite calmly and confidently. Moreover, she even became a leader in terms of economic growth and challenged China in this field, which until recently seemed unthinkable ...

It is clear that in Russia this topic is strictly taboo, and even when discussing the issue of foreign migration, the political component immediately comes to the fore.

Although, maybe this is not bad. Given how our government “loves” reforms and “knows how to” reform, it is better for it to really not touch the national question ...

But in the future, of course, we should return to it. And at least in matters of migration to restore order. As well as in matters of criminal law and responsibility.

Maybe then we will be much calmer about the appearance of Tajiks and Uzbeks on our streets. Peaceful, calm, law-abiding migrants who simply work receive a “white” salary, for which the employer pays contributions to the pension fund and to insurance companies ...
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  1. +71
    14 October 2019 15: 07
    According to the opinion poll conducted by the Levada Center, xenophobic and nationalist sentiments sharply increased in Russia

    So people have nowhere to work on their own, and then there are aliens to feed, which bring down ZP in the labor market ..
    Maybe then we will be much calmer about the appearance of Tajiks and Uzbeks on our streets. Peaceful, calm, law-abiding migrants who simply work receive a “white” salary, for which the employer pays contributions to the pension fund and to insurance companies ...

    We don’t need Tajiks and other jamshuts .. we need to increase our own population ..
    1. +44
      14 October 2019 15: 10
      Well, for that they are imported, Aborigines need a social wage, a higher salary. We have wild capitalism in all its glory.
      1. +64
        14 October 2019 15: 21
        Most Russians in Russia do not have an official job - there is no family and no children! What kind of growth in the demographics of the indigenous population can we talk about ?! Russians as a state, the forming people are dying out due to the migration and political and economic policies of the authorities.
        Russia is a state of national minorities, and the Russian people in their backyards!
        1. +28
          14 October 2019 15: 48
          Our reality is somewhat different: according to the data of the Russian University of Economics named after Plekhanov, the current year may be a record for the number of migrants accepted by Russia. In total, according to some estimates, their number will reach 12 million people, which will be approximately 8% of the total population of the country. Note that we are talking about migrants who do not yet have the status of a citizen of Russia.

          Something data from REU them. Plekhanov is suspiciously small. Namely.

          I have been studying migration policy issues in our country since the 2012 year.
          According to the official data of the FMS of Russia for November 2014, there were 11 420 007 people in the Russian Federation, and 16 458 913 people entered the country. - http://www.fms.gov.ru/about/statistics/data/details/110975/

          However, according to unofficial data from Russian border guards, the number of foreigners actually entering the country is much more. The border guards note in 2011 year (and now 2015 year) that when foreigners cross the Russian border 40-50% of them, entering Russia, illegally fill out their migration cards, which is why the border guards of the Russian Federation and does not count. (The border guards in 2011 said that in 2001-2003, the number of illegible migration cards was of the order of 10%, but then mostly the urban population was traveling to Russia, and now - in 2011 - people from rural areas go, There are no remote places in the country where there are no schools anymore.These people are simply completely illiterate.) Therefore, to determine the real number of foreigners entering the country, official data should be increased by a maximum of 50%.
          Then the real number of foreigners who entered the Russian Federation in November 2014, to the maximum will be:
          16 458 913 x 150% = 24 688 370 (persons) This figure was independently comparable with the UN data. Then they determined about 20 million foreign migrants in the Russian Federation.

          In fact, for migrants, Russia was, it can be said, a passage yard under the pretext that in Russia there is an acute shortage of labor. And now the migration policy of the Russian government has not changed.

          Guest workers. The history of all-Russian deception. Published: November 30 2011 of the year.
          1. +8
            15 October 2019 10: 00
            Quote: Tatiana
            In fact, Russia for migrants - it could be said, was a passage yard under the pretext

            I can also add that Asians draw up Russian pensions for themselves and live on these pensions. Like they worked in the USSR. Not only has the Russian Federation assumed the debts of the Union, but also this ballast is pulling on itself. How do you like that? And this is against the background of pension reforms in the Russian Federation. And the traitors to Russia somehow: district police officers and fms-nicknames, trade in citizenship. Or when hundreds of Gaster are registered in one apartment - no one knows anything about this? And they constantly make it easier for them to obtain citizenship. Someone reasonable says: let's introduce a visa regime? Fig you! - "our" government answers. - we will make it easier for migrants to obtain a Russian passport to the maximum *
            (* - the action does not apply to ethnic Russians in the CIS republics)
        2. +18
          14 October 2019 16: 51
          The Russian empire will be strong if and only if it has a healthy ridge, which is the Russian ethnic group (82% according to the latest census are Russians). At the same time, small nations and peoples of multinational Russia with their national characteristics will be preserved. One organism .. one state ...
          1. 0
            15 October 2019 09: 51
            Quote: To be or not to be
            One organism .. one state ...

            ... one leader ... - you go on, go on ...
        3. +1
          14 October 2019 19: 39
          Well, I don't think so. We have a large village near Ryazan and everyone has a job and girls give birth, but here only "legendary" alcoholics have died out, who drank as hell - natural selection. Of the migrants, four Tajiks work here on the cucumber farm, but everyone is happy with them, because for a very reasonable fee, whoever needs help with the housework.
          No, I understand that in big cities "come in large numbers" like a pimple in one place, but it makes no sense to talk about it. Speak, do not speak, but wherever he was, he will remain there.
          I will not repeat myself, a colleague Vladimir (Svarog) stated everything quite popularly. hi
        4. +19
          15 October 2019 00: 16
          Quote: Tatiana
          Most Russians in Russia do not have an official job - there is no family and no children! What kind of growth in the demographics of the indigenous population can we talk about ?! Russians as a state, the forming people are dying out due to the migration and political and economic policies of the authorities.
          Russia is a state of national minorities, and the Russian people in their backyards!



          The Veiled Genocide of the Indigenous People ...
          1. -5
            15 October 2019 11: 05
            Quote: vlad106
            Veiled


            No big words. wink

            hi
      2. +31
        14 October 2019 15: 35
        They are imported in order to expel the indigenous population in case of dissatisfaction with working conditions. Yes, so that trade unions are not created. Take the same Belarus. There with this question is much stricter. And we still have a real number of millions running around the country illegally.
      3. +24
        14 October 2019 16: 04
        The natives still "have the audacity" to claim a more highly qualified job, respect, and all this is an anachronism in a degrading system.)))
    2. +15
      14 October 2019 15: 22
      What questions will we come to? Ask better than those who import. We must fight the cause.
      1. -5
        14 October 2019 15: 32
        Questions to us. Who rents them housing? Who employs gastritis for work? Who buys goods in their stores? Do not give up, do not hire, do not buy! And most guest workers will be forced to return home.
        1. +15
          14 October 2019 15: 34
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Questions to us. Who rents them housing? Who employs gastritis for work? Who buys goods in their stores? Do not give up, do not hire, do not buy! And most guest workers will be forced to return home.

          Continuing your logic ... don’t pay taxes, don’t pay utilities, don’t pay fines .. well, if you don’t like it ..
          1. -7
            14 October 2019 15: 38
            We rent apartments to them ourselves, and then we are surprised at the crowd. Business owners take them to work, and then moan from the dominance of visitors. They will not go to us if there is no housing or work for them. Or will we wait for uncle to ban migration? Will we always hope for uncle? No way without the Fuhrer?
            1. +33
              14 October 2019 15: 40
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              We rent apartments to them ourselves, and then we are surprised at the crowd. Business owners take them to work, and then moan from the dominance of visitors. They will not go to us if there is no housing or work for them. Or will we wait for uncle to ban migration? Will we always hope for uncle? No way without the Fuhrer?

              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Continuing your logic ... don’t pay taxes, don’t pay utilities, don’t pay fines .. well, if you don’t like it ..

              Continuing to follow your logic .. The question is, why the state then, if we are all ourselves? Just to contain parasitic officials?
              1. -22
                14 October 2019 15: 53
                The state, it begins with us, with ordinary citizens. We will whine and moan about the dominance of migrants, but with pleasure we will buy pies or watermelons from them, hire them to repair the apartment, and use the service of their car washes and tire fitting. So it suits us? If satisfied - then we are silent in a rag. And do not compare the petty with the round: taxes that are customary to pay in any state and guest workers, whose well-being depends mainly on you and me. I personally disdain to use their services. Which I advise you.
                1. +37
                  14 October 2019 15: 58
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  but we’ll be happy to buy pies or watermelons from them,

                  So in my opinion you confused the pies with watermelons ..
                  The state is engaged in migration policy in all countries. And it is not necessary to remove its functions from the state, it is necessary to ask officials and Duma thinkers .. rather than engage in defense. Our state has so far removed itself from its functions and responsibilities ... Organized a cooperative for themselves and live happily ever after ..
              2. -18
                14 October 2019 16: 26
                Where will you get other officials? Invite the Varangians?
                1. +1
                  17 October 2019 14: 40
                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  Where will you get other officials? Invite the Varangians?

                  leaders, sensible, competent, normal, decent of the indigenous peoples a dime a dozen. I can find a bunch for which I am responsible. even myself, even if I am a pensioner, can work for another year, set up work in my field, and prepare myself a shift for several young people. thieves simply promoted their normal ones with the help of the authorities and set up their own
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2019 16: 53
                    They are decent, until they sat in a chair. Checked. The thievish hands grow right there, swagger and the like appear. And the higher the position, the more it manifests itself. Before my eyes, one good person, a Chechen veteran, an order bearer, turned into a standard Russian bureaucrat.
        2. -8
          14 October 2019 16: 05
          Questions to us

          True, but ... The voice of one crying in the wilderness. We shake our heads, but money is more important. As a businessman without them, you see, and so is lined on all sides. Women have their hair cut by Uzbek hairdressers, Azerbaijanis have the most delicious persimmons. etc.
          And here I am at war with those who piss in the porches and vomit in the elevators. Do not believe it, all Russians. Is it with me to cooperate? We are doomed. Alas, this is so.
          1. -7
            14 October 2019 16: 09
            That's it! Until we organize ourselves, no uncle will help us. It does not exist in nature - it is a mythical character. But there really is no one to cooperate with.
            1. 0
              15 October 2019 15: 37
              The state is self-organization !!
              And Putin and his hangers-on are not mythical characters at all .. and get quite real money from our taxes ..
            2. +1
              16 October 2019 01: 29
              When (and if) the people organize themselves, for which you are advocating here, they will begin to deal not with migrants but with the authorities.
              Therefore, our power will climb out of our skin, just to prevent this self-organization.
              And your attempt to transfer the shooter from the responsibility of the authorities to ordinary people is not very convincing. Come up with something better.
          2. -1
            17 October 2019 14: 46
            Quote: Engineer
            I’m at war with those who piss in the porches and vomit in the elevators. Do not believe it, all Russians. Is it with me to cooperate?

            Yes, my friend you are not a Zionofascist case?
            directly "Catechism of the Jew" you perform:
            "don't take Russians to work, take Armenians, Poles, etc., but don't take Russians ..."
            first, industry was destroyed, people nowhere to work. and now you are inviting and hiring migrants -Asians and Armenians. for what purpose is this done?
            This is hidden genocide!
        3. +8
          14 October 2019 18: 10
          Indeed, it is true: there is a vegetable warehouse near us and there 2/3 Tajiks or Uzbeks work. And commodity experts or bookkeeping are Armenians.
      2. +10
        14 October 2019 17: 13
        with a reason?)))) Yes, they know everything that the FMS will catch them, they will give it to their paw and let them go. They are aware of their impunity. Here they go.
      3. +6
        14 October 2019 17: 14
        Quote: Rastas
        Ask better than those who import. We must fight the cause.

        The draft order (project ID 01/02 / 10−19 / 00095493 dated October 2, 2019), posted on the portal "Regulatory Legal Acts of the Government of the Russian Federation", lists the names of professions, foreign owners of which almost automatically become citizens of our country: out of 135 Medical specialties are predominant: midwives, emergency doctors, psychiatrists, district therapists, surgeons, nurses, paramedics and the like.
        How to deal with the cause?
        1. +4
          14 October 2019 18: 19
          A dentist from Ukraine has recently appeared in our clinic. And on the ambulance 2 Tajiks are working, there were more at once, but they fled
        2. +13
          15 October 2019 00: 51
          Quote: Silvestr
          How to deal with the cause?

          Well, Duc, as the permanent deputy of our Most Serene, said, if you need money, go to business (in fairness, I’ll note that it concerned teachers, but it doesn’t change the essence), I realized for myself, or work for a penny or go far ... generally , state woo do not care for you.
    3. +3
      14 October 2019 15: 24
      So quickly it can’t be increased - so that the Slavic population does not completely dissolve, the situation can be saved by the accession of Belarus and all of eastern Ukraine.
      1. +20
        14 October 2019 15: 30
        Quote: Guards turn
        So quickly do not increase it

        Despite the terrible sacrifices we made during the Great Patriotic War, the number of Russians in 30 years has grown by 29,7 million people, or about 1 million a year. Under the liberals, despite the absence of any wars and cataclysms, the number of Russians decreased by almost 18 million people over 20 years or almost 1 (!) Million a year.
        Quote: Guards turn
        so that the Slavic population does not dissolve at all, the situation can be saved by the accession of Belarus and all of eastern Ukraine.

        This also needs to be done unconditionally. But as long as the Russians in Russia die out, this is hardly possible.
        1. -10
          14 October 2019 15: 57
          And the native Germans in Germany do not die out?
          1. +29
            14 October 2019 16: 04
            Quote: Guards turn
            And the native Germans in Germany do not die out?

            And the Germans, why do you care? Let’s focus on ourselves and don’t take all the bad things from the West .. Let’s compare ZP with Germany .. here the situation will be more interesting ... either the percentage on the mortgage or unemployment benefits .. The fact that the Germans do not want to be born personally does not upset me, but the fact that the Russians are rapidly dying out really bothers me ..
            1. +3
              14 October 2019 16: 14
              What should I do? I have two children, I probably will not pull any more. How do you fight against the fact that Russians are rapidly dying out?
              1. +16
                14 October 2019 16: 18
                Quote: Guards turn
                What should I do? I have two children, I probably will not pull any more. How do you fight against the fact that Russians are rapidly dying out?

                I have three children and a grandson .. and I also won’t pull it anymore, but would be younger and under the USSR (confidence in tomorrow) five would have given birth ..
                1. +6
                  14 October 2019 16: 51
                  In the Soviet Union, Bati had four of us and I spent the weekend in his unit, as a rule (when he stood up for the person on duty), but the USSR (confidence in tomorrow) could not be returned.
                  1. +10
                    14 October 2019 16: 53
                    Quote: Guards turn
                    but the USSR (confidence in tomorrow) cannot be returned.

                    Why? The USSR is not a quick matter, but a socialist Russia, it’s quite possible for itself .. Here you need to wake up and I’m sure that for the next election people will wake up and vote for the socialists ..
                    1. +2
                      14 October 2019 17: 03
                      Who are you campaigning for Zyuganov for?
                      1. +10
                        14 October 2019 18: 10
                        Quote: Guards turn
                        Who are you campaigning for Zyuganov for?

                        I’m not campaigning for you, you’re already an adult and will figure it out yourself .. I can help you with arguments in favor of the socialists .. and the decision is yours .. But the personality here is not particularly important .. I don’t like ZY if there’s no choice among socialists I will vote for ZY .. But in general, Grudinin, Platoshkin, are quite worthy candidates ..
                      2. -12
                        14 October 2019 19: 36
                        Platoshkin is a populist and an American agent; he did not pass in the Khabarovsk Territory, people cannot be fooled.
                      3. +10
                        14 October 2019 19: 37
                        Quote: Guards turn
                        Platoshkin is a populist and an American agent; he did not pass in the Khabarovsk Territory, people cannot be fooled.

                        Yes, you have all the American agents, except for real American agents .. Putin, whose agent do you have if the Russians die out with him? Chinese? And the people are deceiving just, American agents for 20 years ..
                      4. -15
                        14 October 2019 19: 49
                        Putin Lord of the World.
                      5. +4
                        15 October 2019 03: 21
                        A bit from the biography of the Lord of the World:
                        In 1992-1996, Putin, among the "reformist political activists," underwent training under the program of the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs (NDI)
                        As I understand it, the Lords of the World are trained only in the States, right?
                2. +4
                  14 October 2019 18: 05
                  I have three children and eight grandchildren. And how to handle it. This year, three of his wife and I were taken to the mountains to rest.
                  1. +13
                    14 October 2019 19: 33
                    Quote: _Sergey_
                    I have three children and eight grandchildren. And how to handle it. This year, three of his wife and I were taken to the mountains to rest.

                    Write down who you worked or work and in which city? And who did your wife work or work?
                    And then we have the elections in St. Petersburg. this year, working pensioners, candidates, municipalities (members of the United Russia party) indicated their pensions in the dossier.
                    So, one has a pension of 350 thousand rubles, another has 250 thousand rubles, and her deputy has a pension of 200 thousand rubles.
                  2. 0
                    15 October 2019 07: 19
                    Pensioners are both with my wife, I have been from 2015. I have a pension of 17500, my wife has 16100. I worked as a foreman in Russian Railways, my wife is an assistant professor at the institute, now I have been retired for 8 years.
                3. +1
                  17 October 2019 03: 08
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Quote: Guards turn
                  What should I do? I have two children, I probably will not pull any more. How do you fight against the fact that Russians are rapidly dying out?

                  I have three children and a grandson .. and I also won’t pull it anymore, but would be younger and under the USSR (confidence in tomorrow) five would have given birth ..

                  I have three children and a grandson

                  I have two children (it happened sad ).
                  But, I have two grandchildren and another cub is planned.
                  And I'm really happy about that !!!
                  But why, then you have three children, and only one grandson?
                  Question mark.
            2. +1
              17 October 2019 02: 23
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: Guards turn
              And the native Germans in Germany do not die out?

              And the Germans, why do you care? Let’s focus on ourselves and don’t take all the bad things from the West .. Let’s compare ZP with Germany .. here the situation will be more interesting ... either the percentage on the mortgage or unemployment benefits .. The fact that the Germans do not want to be born personally does not upset me, but the fact that the Russians are rapidly dying out really bothers me ..

              And the Germans, why do you care?

              A worldwide trend for "civilized" countries, however. sad
              And, yes, where does the adoption of all the bad things from the West come from here?
              And by the way, ZP has nothing to do with it. IMHO.
          2. -1
            17 October 2019 14: 48
            Quote: Guards turn
            And the native Germans in Germany do not die out?

            and the Germans are destroyed in the same way as us
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 01: 25
        Quote: Guards turn
        So quickly it can’t be increased - so that the Slavic population does not completely dissolve, the situation can be saved by the accession of Belarus and all of eastern Ukraine.

        Attach to whom and where? By today's Russia, nothing will change with such a policy. And the meaning is to add, in your country you need to restore order. With the collapse of the USSR, Belarus and Ukraine (like all the "union" republics) said their fi union and Russia, they wanted independence, so let them live on their own, I don't care about them ... And there are also many questions about the "proto-ukrams" after the events in Odessa and "Azov" (the organization is prohibited in the Russian Federation), because hatred towards Russia and the Russians suddenly and immediately appeared not from scratch.
      3. -1
        16 October 2019 12: 01
        Quote: Guards turn
        so that the Slavic population does not dissolve at all, the situation can be saved by the accession of Belarus and all of eastern Ukraine.
        What's the use of this extensive method? Until there is a positive balance (increase), there is no sense in all "fast" methods.
        It’s like spending more than you earn and suddenly borrow to pay ...
    4. -14
      14 October 2019 15: 35
      Well, let's introduce a patent for work per year for visitors to 200000 rubles and prohibit all citizens of the CIS from obtaining citizenship "Russia for Russians" - Zhirinovsky will support.
      1. +1
        14 October 2019 15: 58
        patents this year by the number of two reduced. and 20 percent of the quota for foreigners. raised fines.
    5. +30
      14 October 2019 16: 00
      Amur Region, Svobodny, construction of one of the largest gas processing facilities, Svobodnensky TOR. Currently, 25 thousand Tajiks, Kazakhs, 2 thousand Turks and other other things work. But for local jobs is not located. Take either guards or drivers. And that’s all. All engineers and technicians also come mainly from Gazprom. It is not clear why this is so.
      Recently they rebelled, they did something wrong there, like buses didn’t serve during
      https://www.gzt-sv.ru/news/126694-sotni-rabochih-amurskogo-gpz-otpravilis
      Imagine hundreds of jamshuts on the highway at night. The locals were seriously alarmed.
      A few days later they fought among themselves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z67c3CdydzY
      Before the shift ended, they took them home, apparently they thought it was expensive, they left themselves. Mostly they leave, but they stay. More and more in the city there are communal workers with a characteristic appearance, some eateries, restaurants are opening. Yes, our people would never have been allowed to open a public catering in such buildings, and here clap and a Turkish restaurant. Yes there excuse the toilet on the street and the water is imported, but the restaurant. Taxi drivers more and more on such a rare car trash.
      It is difficult to say where such a policy will lead.
      1. +9
        14 October 2019 17: 10
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        I personally disdain to use their services. Which I advise you.

        Yes Yes ! Here, for example, a person decided to disdain ---
        He picked up a whole stroller of groceries in the supermarket - paid the Russian cashier nicely and went to the exit with a clear conscience. He walked across the clean floors, which are being polished by a whole female brigade of visitors. And the goods were unloaded by a male team of visitors. He sat down with full string bags in a minibus or a taxi, and there again THESE. So he had to walk to his home on foot. And then he accidentally found out that his home was built by a brigade of illegal immigrants. Somehow he became disgusted ... he threw on a thin jacket, sewn in an underground workshop near Moscow, and went where his eyes would look. All, poor fellow, zadros. He curled up strongly in the cold, but the ambulance picked him up and took him to the hospital, where he fell into the hands of the doctor on duty / and part-time a foreign citizen. On October 10, 2019, the Ministry of Health of Russia compiled a list of doctors that we lack in our country and suggested attracting these same doctors from abroad. / In general, the principles did not allow him to receive life-saving help and ... this can be done. And you reduce everything to banal watermelons laughing As long as the government controls migration with great benefit for itself, then this "butt" by the consciousness of a separate individual cannot be overcome. It is the power that determines the migration policy in the country and I would disdain to divert arrows from it.
        1. +3
          14 October 2019 17: 38
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          And the goods were unloaded by the male team of visitors.

          We have injected our carousel. 600 rubles per shift.
        2. 0
          14 October 2019 18: 06
          Do you also want to rent apartments to them? Does business hire a job, again by order of the government? In addition to large retail chains, there are also small shops, cafes and other enterprises owned by non-citizens of the Russian Federation. Using their services, you encourage migration. No need to feed the animals, even if they were brought to us without our demand.
          1. +1
            15 October 2019 11: 29
            But citizens will agree.

            There are in this:

            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            No need to feed the animals, even if they were brought to us without our demand.


            Something is right.

            hi
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      3. +3
        15 October 2019 11: 25
        Quote: YOUR
        It is hard to say


        Nothing complicated ...

        .. die out on fig *.

        Who will you hire? me for 20 or jamshut for 10 ...

        Neither the state (the state and the Country are different things), but ... LLC is continuous.

        hi
      4. +1
        16 October 2019 02: 00
        It is not clear why this is so.

        Yes, because our comprador power today is the real traitors of Russia. What is really incomprehensible there.
    6. +9
      14 October 2019 16: 28
      Quote: Svarog
      So people have nowhere to work on their own, and then there are aliens to feed, which bring down ZP in the labor market ..

      And here it is not clear for what reasons they are trying to push the 4 day work week.
      1. -5
        14 October 2019 16: 32
        The topic with a four-day work week is closed - and no one pushes it anywhere, so they talked and forgot.
        1. +6
          14 October 2019 16: 43
          Quote: Vadim237
          The topic with a four-day work week is closed - and no one pushes it anywhere, so they talked and forgot.

          Here ... they talked and forgot .. and for that it gets 8 lyamas a year .. tell me you can’t find such an effective one anymore?
          1. +1
            16 October 2019 02: 05
            Easy, their box is full of them. laughing
            But not everyone
            a) from St. Petersburg
            b) familiar with Sobchak
            c) worked with Putin
            d) less than Putin's height
        2. +5
          15 October 2019 01: 34
          Quote: Vadim237
          The topic with a four-day work week is closed - and no one pushes it anywhere, so they talked and forgot.

          "Fresh tradition" - about raising the retirement age, "our" His Serene Highness also promised .... Yes, only the president remained and the age was raised. Only, something was not visible on ernstTV happy pensioners sitting on a twine or jumping with a parachute, apparently cracked or crashed.
          1. +5
            15 October 2019 11: 36
            Quote: Petrograd
            "Fresh tradition" - about raising the retirement age "our" also promised ...

            And now the next step: Military service on conscription does not count towards seniority, because you see, the soldier during the service was not expelled to the RPF. The height of cynicism. The man gave the Motherland a sacred duty, did not hide, defended the people, the government and officials of the PFR. And this government and the FIU tell him: "You are oligophrenic, you could not get rid of, so work for another year - another until retirement (if you live)"
            1. 0
              17 October 2019 04: 23
              Quote: AK1972
              Quote: Petrograd
              "Fresh tradition" - about raising the retirement age "our" also promised ...

              And now the next step: Military service on conscription does not count towards seniority, because you see, the soldier during the service was not expelled to the RPF. The height of cynicism. The man gave the Motherland a sacred duty, did not hide, defended the people, the government and officials of the PFR. And this government and the FIU tell him: "You are oligophrenic, you could not get rid of, so work for another year - another until retirement (if you live)"

              Not certainly in that way.
              Everything is curled from your VUS.
              Something like that.
              Does the army enter the general working experience
              The total length of service, having ceased to be an indicator on which the amount of the accrued pension directly depends, continues, however, to be used in connection with it to assess the right:

              on a pension earned before 2002 (Clause 1, Article 30 of the Law “On Labor Pensions in the Russian Federation” dated December 17.12.2001, 173 No. XNUMX-ФЗ);
              increase in fixed pension payments for people working in the Far North and equivalent localities, as well as for agricultural workers (paragraphs 4, 5, 14 of article 17 of the Law on Insurance Pensions of December 28.12.2013, 400 No. XNUMX-ФЗ );
              early establishment of a pension (Articles 30–32 of Law No. 400-FZ);
              the title of a labor veteran (Clause 1, Article 7 of the Law “On Veterans” of 12.01.1995/5/XNUMX No. XNUMX-FZ), which makes it possible to receive a number of social benefits when applying for a pension;
              seniority pension for a civil servant (paragraphs 1 and 1.1 of article 7 of the law “On state pension provision in the Russian Federation” dated December 15.12.2001, 166 No. XNUMX-ФЗ).
              The army service is usually included in the total length of service based on its actual calendar duration. But for a number of cases, its period increases, for example:

              2 times in respect of conscription service and 3 times for combatants - when one of the options for evaluating the right to retire is taken into account (Clause 4, Article 30 of Law No. 173-FZ);
              2 times in relation to the service of conscripts - to reflect in the general labor and seniority of the civil service (paragraph 3 of the law "On the status of military personnel" dated 27.05.1998/76/XNUMX No. XNUMX-ФЗ).
              About what periods the total length of service is composed of, read in the material “Total length of service - what is included and how to calculate it?”.
      2. +6
        14 October 2019 16: 42
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: Svarog
        So people have nowhere to work on their own, and then there are aliens to feed, which bring down ZP in the labor market ..

        And here it is not clear for what reasons they are trying to push the 4 day work week.

        Yes, I don’t pay attention to such initiatives yet ... Medvedev ... what can you take from him ... he then changes the clock, then changes back and forth, then he is transferred again ... the police there will be renamed to the police .. I think this is from the same series. He’s bored, there’s nothing to do, he’s suffering .. it seems like he needs to take the initiative, but he won’t come up with any initiatives ..
        1. +3
          15 October 2019 11: 40
          Quote: Svarog
          rename the police there.


          Here's the thing.

          The car is police.

          He is a policeman.


          There are no questions.

          The car is a cop.

          Is he - .


          There is no such word "policeman". Tell them he's a policeman. But then the question will be "What is he?"

          And this is far from the same.

          Only ONE comes to me!

          Police officer.

          And I remember how my grandmother spoke for them.

          Our country is good., The state is neither .... Nothing special.

          hi
    7. +13
      14 October 2019 16: 57
      Quote: Svarog
      So people have nowhere to work on their own, and then there are aliens to feed, which bring down ZP in the labor market ..

      Vladimir! Their main purpose is to dump the locals in terms of wages. Moreover, they are powerless and cannot stand in a position against the government. It is no secret that ZhEKahs are local in the state, while Uzbeks sweep and clean for a penny. The delta between the accrued and actually received salary goes into the pocket of the boss. The Ministry of Labor plans to bring guest workers to the country to work in healthcare.
      1. +1
        15 October 2019 02: 37
        In our area, what has come down
        Discussion news:
        Migrants from Kyrgyzstan want their clinics, schools and honest employers on Sakhalin
        https://sakhalin.info/news/176866/
        Vobschem already put forward requirements
    8. +5
      14 October 2019 17: 58
      So people have nowhere to work on their own, and then there are aliens to feed, which bring down ZP in the labor market ..

      You are not thinking about that - every migrant deprives you of a pension. They work - and the employer does not deduct anything to the pension fund. Accordingly, the pension fund is not filled enough - why should we pay pensions? Increase retirement age?
      I don’t know how in Russia, but in Belarus, for one pensioner there are only one and a half working people ...
      1. 0
        16 October 2019 12: 16
        Quote: lucul
        You are not thinking about that - every migrant deprives you of a pension
        Here the majority, I think, at least guesses that we are deprived of pensions, first of all, by the FIU, because in any case, pensions will be paid, in fact, at the expense of working contemporaries, and the FIU somehow does not actively create profitable jobs.
        1. -1
          16 October 2019 18: 26
          because in any case, pensions will be paid, in fact, at the expense of working contemporaries,

          Yeah, but if these "working contemporaries" are emigrants who receive their salaries in envelopes and do not pay a penny to the pension fund. Whereas ?
          1. 0
            17 October 2019 00: 28
            Quote: lucul
            who get paid in envelopes and don’t pay a penny to the pension fund.
            Is this the problem with emigrants (I believe that you are mistaken - you need to talk about "wild" guest workers)? The problem is paying taxes. And in jobs that "generate" taxes.
            Quote: lucul
            Whereas ?
            Down with barter and illegal business?
    9. +5
      14 October 2019 23: 41
      Quote: Svarog
      So people have nowhere to work on their own, and then there are aliens to feed

      So these newcomers also hate us:
      https://rus.ozodi.org/a/30207086.html
      https://rus.ozodi.org/a/30214467.html
      Read the comments they write on the Tajik version of Radio Liberty. For them we are invaders, invaders and villains. Well, downright Baltic and Ukrainian song one to one. They just haven't invented their Holodomor yet. Do we need such "friendly" gaster? I think the answer is obvious ...
    10. -4
      15 October 2019 02: 16
      We do not need Tajiks and other jamshuts .. we need to increase our own population .. [/ quote]
      well, take up this pleasant process silently
    11. +1
      15 October 2019 15: 29
      then, against the backdrop of Crimean euphoria, confidence in the current government was just going through the roof. Of course, her arguments regarding the need to attract migrants were perceived by society much better, in this believed and thought that the government understands what it is doing.


      Many to this day in the clouds soar about our power ..
  2. +5
    14 October 2019 15: 11
    According to the opinion poll conducted by the Levada Center, xenophobic and nationalist sentiments sharply increased in Russia
    Sorry, but I would be VERY cautious about the materials of the organization whose work is paid from abroad.
    Our reality is somewhat different: according to the data of the Russian University of Economics named after Plekhanov, the current year may be a record for the number of migrants accepted by Russia.
    Hour from hour to hour is not easier. "Plekhanov Russian University of Economics" is this, what a "beast"? What are his competencies, opportunities and who pays for their work. And what does our FMS say? The fact is that the geography of these "come in large numbers" is not clear and what to hide, many of them use our country as a transit zone to move to "prosperous" Europe. It's not for nothing that Finland began to tighten control over the border with Russia so much
    1. +8
      14 October 2019 15: 27
      This is the former Moscow Institute of National Economy named after Plekhanov, aka * Pleshka *. One of the * thugs * HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS, it was very good to go there. and very good not so easy!
    2. +2
      14 October 2019 15: 30
      Quote: svp67
      Hour from hour to hour is not easier. "Plekhanov Russian University of Economics" is this, what a "beast"?

      Well, I found it. This is the Russian Economic University. Plekhanov, whose main task is TRAINING, is according to their official website. But they have
      The Situational Center for Socio-Economic Development of Russia and the Regions of the Russian Federation operates on the basis of the University on a modern information technology base, which provides breakthrough opportunities for the innovative development of educational activities and increase the effectiveness of scientific work. Distinctive features of the Situation Center of the REU are its visualization capabilities, distributed across the levels of the administrative-territorial management of the source and settlement-analytical information. The Center actively cooperates with state authorities in the direction of practical use and improvement of the Operational Monitoring system. The main purpose of monitoring is to fulfill the functional tasks of the departments of the ministry, including providing a proactive assessment of the achievement of the target parameters for the strategic development of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, creating an operational database of an electronic passport of the constituent entity of the Russian Federation, typologizing regions and reasonably identifying priority development zones, improving the territorial planning system and a number of other tasks.


      Source: https://www.rea.ru/ru/pages/about.aspx © FSBEI HE «REU named after G.V. Plekhanov
      1. +2
        14 October 2019 16: 36
        Quote: svp67
        This is the Russian Economic University. Plekhanov, whose main task is TRAINING,

        Yes, here heaped up, already blows his head, just some kind of monster.
        1. +2
          14 October 2019 16: 44
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Yes, here heaped up, already blows his head, just some kind of monster.

          Or a "machine" for scrolling budget funds
    3. +3
      14 October 2019 20: 02
      True, there have been reports of this.
  3. +16
    14 October 2019 15: 13
    There is no Russian national party in Russia and never will be. Even if honest, active, caring people gather (this in itself is ridiculous in our realities) and begin to promote a positive, constructive nationalist image, then one provocateur zigzagging at the camera will destroy it all in the bud.
    1. +7
      14 October 2019 15: 45
      There will be a Russian party, even with no ridges, it is a question of the survival of our people.
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 15: 49
        Will not be. There will be a slurry of Kurginyans, Prilepin, Arc, Girkin, etc. with a bunch of marginalized marginals. And it will be only as long as the curators from the AP will consider it profitable to pedal this topic.
      2. -1
        14 October 2019 16: 53
        I respect Kvachkov. But he himself always hints that he was NOT JUST RELEASED.
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 17: 01
          Man is 71 years old. You prophesy him to the leaders of the movement? Give him a break.
          In general, I remind you.
          Remember how Egor glimpse flashed? Simply and brilliantly, through banal attribution with a nationalist idea, it was mixed with one substance. Here they say what freaks drown for her. If necessary, they will get it and repeat it again. Only a cryptostructure can help here. Which should be infiltrated everywhere, at all levels. Viral, network technology. But this is complete fantasy
          1. -2
            14 October 2019 17: 10
            You at least watch the latest videos with him, where he urges everyone to come to the Russian march. Where did you see that I recorded him as a leader? See for yourself.
    2. 0
      14 October 2019 16: 55
      And the leaders of the Russian party will be relatives of Zhirinovsky and Medvedev.
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 17: 05
        Best case scenario. I didn’t just remember about prosvirnin wink Well, the night is still far)
    3. +1
      14 October 2019 19: 59
      What then do?
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 20: 36
        If this is a question for me, then these are the main options. I do not pretend to be a coach, but all the examples from life.
        1. Elitist. Real estate in the club community. White businessmen of the middle hand and officials in friends, protected area, special school for children. Your children play, for example, with the children of the vice mayor or with the children of the FSB mayor at least .. Your wives go to the same fitness club. The rest, who are outside the perimeter, outside the circle are not interesting. Spit on them. The task is to stay in status and therefore in the perimeter. Classic on the way to South Africa
        2. Subcultural. Or an Interest Club. Looking around, if you wish, you can find certain people. They compare favorably with the usual nationalist hangout. They are silent, they do not zigzag, they are mostly from the generation of the 80s, their faces and heads are covered with scars, someone even sat down. In their heads, there is still a mishmash - monarchism, Orthodoxy, paganism, often AUE. BUT they have long understood the need to stay in the pack. The easiest way to reach them is in the "white" martial arts club, and then everything is from the individual. Intellectuals are not recommended, plus posers need to be filtered, but "domestic" guys are not given it.
        3. Individual. A balloon "Epee" in a conspicuous place. In the countryside, the "Saiga" is better - in the city they will torture you with checks. The wife / girlfriend has the same bottle in her purse. Unwillingness to wear and phrases "there are no bad nations" is treated by watching the news and strict suggestion. The main goals in life are a congress from Russia or raising children so that they enter the elite and they have access to option 1.
  4. +14
    14 October 2019 15: 14
    look at Moscow this is no longer a European city, but bosses only see life through tinted limousine windows
    1. +13
      14 October 2019 15: 20
      It’s quite a European. Exactly what European cities show on federal channels).
      Ghettoization has already happened somewhere (lovingly), somewhere is in full swing
      1. +26
        14 October 2019 15: 34
        I came this summer and the beginning of autumn to my partners in the company in Moscow and went nuts from the fact that earlier, all this "blackness" could be seen in large quantities only in the evenings, when they were leaving for their habitats, now the whole city, even during working hours , flooded with their children, women or themselves, it seems that they no longer work, but just hang out in groups. Moreover, some, mostly young people, bearded and with defiant types of baseball caps or armbands are green with a crescent moon and a star ...
        1. +6
          14 October 2019 15: 43
          Well, this is at least half the Russians too.
          And so everything is in the best traditions of Paris and London. Bars, shopping centers, clubs, sections of the BI where it is better not to go yourself even with a cylinder of pepper and categorically prohibit wives / children / girlfriends from going
          However, they say that in St. Petersburg there is also spasmodic growth.
          1. +10
            14 October 2019 16: 04
            The saddest and most offensive thing is that people (well, I can’t call them citizens of our country !!!) who make such bad decisions don’t walk the streets, but as described above they see life from the windows of limousines. How to break this system? One way and if you are a Muscovite, then remember the events in West Biryulevo. The authorities have simply become insolent.
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        2. +1
          14 October 2019 16: 45
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Moreover, some, mostly youth-bearded and with a defiant look of baseball caps or bandages, green with a crescent moon and a star ..

          Yes, we are far from you in the "estlyashka".
        3. +13
          14 October 2019 17: 46
          I was born in Moscow in the 70s and lived there for over 35 years. Then he moved to the suburbs, calmer here and the air is cleaner. I visit Moscow often. Unfortunately, this is so. Somehow on January 1, I went for a walk with the children. Ofigel - this is very mildly said. This, damn it, Tashkent, Dushanbe, but not the heart of Russia .... Horror ...
      2. +6
        14 October 2019 17: 00
        Quote: Engineer
        Ghettoization has already happened somewhere (lovingly), somewhere is in full swing


        The important thing is that they crush social objects for themselves
        1. +7
          14 October 2019 17: 03
          A thousand times worse that they penetrate into law enforcement and law enforcement agencies
          1. +6
            14 October 2019 17: 05
            Quote: Engineer
            A thousand times worse that they penetrate into law enforcement and law enforcement agencies

            it's generally tin!
      3. +4
        14 October 2019 17: 07
        Quote: Engineer
        It’s quite a European.

        Not a fig is not European. I got out of the train - the Kyrgyz with wheelbarrows roll up. I went into the city - an Armenian in a taxi 4 asks for a thousand rubles. Yes, I almost fired him in his face.
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 17: 11
          It is European. Multiculturalism and Diving bully
          1. +3
            14 October 2019 17: 23
            Quote: Engineer
            It is European. Multiculturalism and Diving

            I worked at a Moscow construction site. 6 cars for four, an Uzbek snoring on me, a Ukrainian next to me ... One prostitute for four people ...
            1. +2
              14 October 2019 22: 36
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              One prostitute for four ...

              It's just some kind of horror, Volodya!
              Laughing out loud! wassat
              1. +2
                14 October 2019 22: 45
                Quote: Dym71
                It’s just some kind of horror, Volodya, I can’t laugh!

                It was. Come on, Muscovites were paid 20 thousand rubles, 15 - for us, and Kyrgyz Uzbeks - 11 thousand. Where the Pechatniki metro was built, houses were built a little lower.
                1. +1
                  14 October 2019 22: 47
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  It was. Count up

                  Yes, I believe, I’m just getting away with such details bully
                  1. +3
                    14 October 2019 22: 53
                    Quote: Dym71
                    I believe, I’ll just get it from such details

                    I worked a little in Moscow, and hit the road from there. They went nafig. To live in a trailer when a Ukrainian is snoring over you, and an Uzbek muttering nearby ... He looked into a blue booth, and there is crap on a half-cabin. We went to the basement for the most part. sad
  5. Egg
    +4
    14 October 2019 15: 26
    Quote: ultra
    Aborigines then need social programs, the salary is higher.

    Excuse me, have you been hiring migrants for a long time? Tales about the high salary of Aboriginal people have not been relevant for a long time. Migrants do not go out much cheaper, give tools and equipment, provide housing, provide them with food, transport at least once a week, give shopping / markets more stint, and require an average payment in the region. And the local brigades with housing and with transport and with tools and equipment and the payment is not much higher and you can ride in the face of the face to spit if they mess
    1. +2
      14 October 2019 15: 41
      Quote: Telur
      , and you have long hired migrants to work

      In the field of my activity I will not find among the Central Asian migrant workers, specialists.
      1. +4
        14 October 2019 16: 00
        and why only the Central Asian? Ukrainians, for example, drove more than a million.
        1. +1
          14 October 2019 17: 02
          Quote: carstorm 11
          Ukrainians, for example, drove more than a million.

          You know, in the last year or two I haven’t met
          1. +1
            14 October 2019 17: 08
            Well, work is different. perhaps many who study or already have an education. it's also good.
        2. +6
          14 October 2019 17: 42
          Ukrainians, I think for their own. hi
    2. +1
      14 October 2019 16: 47
      Quote: Telur
      Not much migrants come out cheaper, give tools and equipment, provide housing, provide food,

      Well, they probably work not in comparison with ours?
    3. 0
      14 October 2019 22: 44
      Quote: Telur
      Not much migrants come out cheaper

      1000 - 1500 rub. 8 hourly working day (Tula)
      1. 0
        14 October 2019 23: 05
        Quote: Dym71
        1000 - 1500 rub. 8 hourly working day (Tula)

        But where exactly?
        1. +1
          14 October 2019 23: 15
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          But where exactly?

          This is their dachshund, in Tula on Pirogov they are buzzing with a myriad swarm, they have an unofficial mosque there.
          1. 0
            14 October 2019 23: 19
            I was also invited to church with the Mormons. A thousand rubles a day. He refused, I do not want to kiss their paw.
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 23: 45
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              I was also invited to church with the Mormons.

              belay
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              A thousand rubles a day.

              Cheyt not a lot what
              1. +1
                15 October 2019 00: 18
                Quote: Dym71
                Cheyt not a lot

                And there didn’t have to do anything at all. Just walk. Familiar ensign invited. Only it was necessary to kiss and wear a cross. But I do not want.
  6. AB
    +35
    14 October 2019 15: 32
    Peaceful, calm, law-abiding migrants

    Oh, laughed! Laughing out loud! Law abiding? When they (migrants) gather in a crowd, you try to explain to them at least something. They are peaceful и calm up to three people, then only aggressive ones. And there is absolutely no difference where these migrants came from, from Asia, from the Caucasus or Hohland. They hate us and at the same time they want to stay in Russia by hook and by crook. There is only one solution: to close the border from non-specialists, to allow work only with a specialty and to strictly monitor that migrants work only in their specialty.
    1. +2
      14 October 2019 17: 02
      Quote: AB
      There is only one solution: to close the border from non-specialists, to allow work only with a specialty and to strictly monitor that migrants work only in their specialty.

      But it cannot be simpler - the employer must pay a certain amount for the employee and it does not matter whether he is a specialist or a handyman plus a certificate for a specialty and also a work visa through the migration office. An employer who accepts a migrant in violation pays a fine for each 30 thousand dollars.
      1. +5
        15 October 2019 03: 20
        Quote: tihonmarine
        But it cannot be made simpler - the employer must pay a certain amount for the employee

        Better to do as in Japan. Foreigners there are supposed to pay twice as much as their own, the Japanese. Therefore, they are foreigners and do not invite almost. It’s easier to pay. And I was recently injured, so there was some kind of Tajik. Mother with a broken leg was lying, so their Armenian was a doctor. I went to the ophthalmic for surgery, to take out the scale, again a non-Russian woman, it was a couple of times more painful than the Russian doctor took 25 back to me.
        1. +3
          15 October 2019 09: 36
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Therefore, they are foreigners and do not invite almost. It’s easier to pay.

          You are right here, it is better to pay your own people, but since it happened that the country is importing immigrants, then it must be done so that everything is legal and so that the local population does not suffer. I wrote above in my comments how the Swedes, the Finns did it, and the Estonians did it for half a year, gradually tightening the hiring of "guest workers". Already now, the employer pays social services and 400-600 euros a month for such an employee, and already my friends at construction sites take only qualified workers, the money is the same as for a laborer, and you have to pay 50 euros for yours. So, think when you take it. From November 1, workers' cards are introduced, according to which both the tax and migration can track all his movements and cash receipts. Well, about certificates of qualification are required, plus courses on technical security (local). And now there is no longer this howling of neychi and freeloaders.
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  8. +14
    14 October 2019 15: 39
    "Russia with twelve million migrants", this is where all the confusion begins, statistics speaks of four million, and the FSB of thirty-two million. So 71% say the FSB figures are the most accurate.
    Migrants hinder the development of the country, a thousand migrants will not replace a single Russian engineer who will leave for the West, and this leads to this.
    1. +2
      14 October 2019 17: 16
      Quote: Strashila
      "Russia with twelve million migrants", this is where all the confusion begins, statistics speaks of four million, and the FSB of thirty-two million.

      I believe that no one owns real statistics: _ + a couple of millions
  9. +13
    14 October 2019 15: 39
    Migration is almost the main problem of modern Russia, where the state is very financial-centric and not very man-centered. I can say that this poll is probably lying - 100 percent of Russian citizens of our country would like to reduce migration, as well as to be forced to behave decently. Not 71 but 100.
  10. +13
    14 October 2019 15: 43
    Personally, I, for the complete prohibition of migration from the SA, only the Slavic and national minorities who have their own national entities on the territory of Russia.
    1. -12
      14 October 2019 16: 06
      and which are not the Slavs nafig? in our country, not only the Slavs actually live. Bashkirs Tatars and many many others. They also forbid entry? we look often began to miss the moment that Russian and Russian is not quite the same thing.
      1. +9
        14 October 2019 16: 19
        Uzbeks, Tajiks, Armenian Sochi, are you few?
        1. -7
          14 October 2019 16: 30
          Yes, I actually do not care. I have nothing against people of different nationalities.
        2. 0
          14 October 2019 21: 29
          On the Black Sea coast of modern Krasnodar Territory, on the territory of modern Rostov Region, Armenians even before 1917 constituted a significant percentage of the population.
      2. +2
        14 October 2019 16: 20
        You probably did not read my post to the end.
    2. +9
      14 October 2019 17: 01
      What is the difference where the migrants come from. Former brothers can be even worse. It is necessary to make sure that they do not start the order of their village on our territory
      1. +2
        14 October 2019 17: 03
        The difference is not where, but who.
        1. 0
          14 October 2019 17: 25
          What is the principle of their selection? There should be administrative restrictions on hiring and moving out. If a person with an expired residence time is caught, then he must be deported with a ban on entry. And they give the representative of the authorities on his paw, and even you can not show your passport.
  11. +1
    14 October 2019 15: 43
    "... Enemy at the gates ... ???"
  12. +2
    14 October 2019 15: 56
    The commander in chief said clearly. He who says that Russia is for Russians is a rock or a provocateur. Or is it not the patriots of the Russian government gathered?
    1. +18
      14 October 2019 16: 09
      Quote: Oleg133
      The commander in chief said clearly.

      The commander-in-chief is not credible for many here .. He does not hold his officer’s word (pension reform), does not hold his subordinates accountable (May decrees), and so on, and doesn’t count all the merits .. For this reason, it’s useless to listen to his case, and often harmful because then wash off the noodles ..
      1. -5
        14 October 2019 16: 27
        And what you do not like "May Decrees" - little by little, but they do it, the next ones will be like this
        1. +8
          14 October 2019 16: 30
          Quote: Vadim237
          And what you do not like "May Decrees" - little by little, but they do it, the next ones will be like this

          Money spent is not a result. We know how they are mastered, where is the result? and if not, who has been punished?
        2. +8
          14 October 2019 17: 23
          Quote: Vadim237
          And what you do not like "May Decrees" - little by little, but they do it, the next ones will be like this

          Vadim! Words-words, where is your sweetness ...
          The criterion for the effectiveness of the May decrees of GDP in healthcare was the dismissal of Nizhny Tagil and other doctors throughout the country.
          It is enough to recall the execution and result of state programs.
          -2010 Promised "innovation" and "Silicon Valley" in Skolkovo
          - 2011 Promised "New industrialization for 43 trillion rubles." and "25 million high-tech jobs"
          - 2012 The Foundation for Advanced Research was created - "an analogue of the American DARPA"
          - 2013 "International Financial Center in Moscow"
          - 2014. Import substitution
          - 2016 "End-to-end technologies"
          - 2017 "Cryptocurrency mining" and "blockchain"
          - 2018 Default on social obligations to pay a pension from the age of 55/60 years
          - 2018 "Digital Economy"
          Where is the result?
          And you about the May decrees
          1. -11
            14 October 2019 20: 01
            The promised innovation - now in Russia there are 40 technology parks in Skolkovo, 46 ​​companies with a total product turnover of more than 140 billion rubles are now located, recently the Germans connected on the territory and began to build a joint complex with us.
            New industrialization for 43 trillion. rubles "and" 25 million high-tech jobs "About 43 trillion - Themselves invented? 25 million high-tech jobs - in the decrees spelled out as the number of individual entrepreneurs.
            "The Foundation for Advanced Research has been created" - a state fund whose purpose is to promote the implementation of scientific research and development in the interests of the defense of Russia and the security of the state, associated with a high degree of risk of achieving qualitatively new results in the military-technical, technological and socio-economic spheres, including including in the interests of modernization of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, development and creation of innovative technologies and production of high-tech products for military, special and dual-use. Works and does its job as intended.
            "International Financial Center in Moscow" - What are your complaints about this center?
            Import substitution for 2019 - 670 elements, components and equipment, previously supplied from abroad, were replaced in the defense industry. They created and tested a gas turbine GTE 110M for a range from 70 to 500 MW, launched the production of electric motors, vacuum chambers, heat exchangers, medical syringes, cyclotrons for nuclear medicine, industrial 3D printers, drilling equipment, and Schwab launched the production of domestic medical equipment, as well as scientific and Mongolian much more , import substitution works - and this is not re-gluing their nameplates on foreign products.
            "Cryptocurrency mining" and "blockchain" - This development continues in Russia, and blockchain technology is being introduced in the banking sector.
            "Default on social obligations to pay pension from the age of 55/60" - The reform will finally come into force only after 14 years - in 2034
            "Digital economy" "End-to-end technologies" The same thing, Russia is only entering it while we have 2% of world GDP in this direction, the development of this direction includes until 2024
            "successful functioning of at least 10 leading companies (ecosystem operators), competitive in global markets;
            successful operation of at least 10 sectoral (industrial) digital platforms for the main subject areas of the economy (including digital health care, digital education and the "smart city");
            successful operation of at least 500 small and medium enterprises in the field of creating digital technologies and platforms and the provision of digital services;
            the number of graduates of educational institutions of higher education in areas of training related to information and telecommunication technologies - 120 thousand people per year;
            the number of graduates of higher and secondary professional education with competencies in the field of information technology at the global average level - 800 thousand people per year;
            the proportion of the population with digital skills is 40 percent;
            the number of implemented projects in the field of the digital economy (at least 100 million rubles) - 30 units;
            the number of Russian organizations participating in the implementation of large-scale projects ($ 3 million) in priority areas of international scientific and technical cooperation in the field of the digital economy - 10;
            the share of households with broadband Internet access (100 Mbps) in the total number of households - 97 percent;
            in all large cities (1 million people or more), stable coverage of 5G and higher;
            the proportion of entities using standards for the safe information interaction of state and public institutions is 75 percent;
            the share of internal network traffic of the Russian segment of the Internet, routed through foreign servers, is 5 percent. "
            You asked where the result is - I answered with clarifications, Russia's GDP for 2010 is $ 1500 billion for 2019, the forecast is $ 1800 billion, the result is more or less normal - given the crisis from late 2013 to the present day, sanctions, falling oil prices, the collapse of the ruble, bilateral embargo and international pressure on Russia and the outflow of foreign capital as well as minimal investment. So there are fewer snot. No economic sharp rise in such conditions is impossible, no matter who writes there.
    2. +14
      14 October 2019 16: 29
      Ten years ago, they believed him. But not now. Now, in mid-October, Russia will be tested disconnected from the global web. Putin signed the Satanic law on biometrics, according to which public services and bank services can only be provided by providing personal data. To whom it is funny, pay attention to China. Today, the news spread around the media. In China, access to the Internet and the use of social networks through face id. Face identification. Also use one phone number. And for us they are preparing an electronic concentration camp. What the hell are these US and NATO to me if we soon become slaves in our country
      1. -14
        14 October 2019 16: 35
        Slaves of what you will become - you have freedom of choice and it will remain in the future.
        1. +2
          14 October 2019 16: 41
          Read an analysis of this law. And the law itself. Everything is in the public domain
        2. 0
          14 October 2019 17: 38
          Freedom or the illusion of choice
          1. -5
            14 October 2019 20: 07
            And you are sitting on a chain - "The illusion of choice"
            1. 0
              15 October 2019 08: 15
              Take a look. It’s hard not to understand this video.
      2. 0
        14 October 2019 16: 41
        I wonder how it is, without providing personal data, are you going to use banking services? Although it is tempting: to take a loan anonymously, 50 million commercials, honestly.
        1. +12
          14 October 2019 16: 50
          It's about biometric data. Why do they need banks and the state? For security? Rave. Everyone is aware of the recent hacking of Sberbank, Beeline. Using criminals biometric data, security officials will be able to do whatever they want on your behalf. The most interesting thing in this law is that the security of the transfer of biometric data is provided by the client himself. The client is instructed to use special cryptographic tools. That is, all this is a lie about identification by phone and computer. Since the law states that these are unprotected channels. So what is the purpose of collecting biometrics? If she does not add convenience. This is creating a base and manipulating society.
          1. -6
            14 October 2019 16: 56
            In order to do something on your behalf, a simple paper power of attorney is enough. Which is quite simple to do if one sets such a goal, and for special staff this is not a problem at all. Yes, and a commonplace ink signature is much easier to fake than breaking a crypto protection, especially if the client is a little versed in information security.
            1. +1
              14 October 2019 17: 06
              Let's go on the contrary! Why is your biometrics to banks and the state? If you yourself must ensure the security of the transmission of this data
              1. -7
                14 October 2019 17: 13
                Why does a person need a passport and a driver’s license? For identification and confirmation of the right to drive a vehicle. And it would be much easier if this could be done with a single fingerprint.
                1. +4
                  14 October 2019 17: 17
                  Everyone has their own view of such changes. Now you are an individual, then you will simply be assigned a number. This is how depersonalization takes place. All this is done to simplify control by the "state", if this structure can still be called that. And the Central Bank of the Russian Federation will deal with all this biometrics. By the way, the law says that your biometric data will be sold: to law enforcement agencies, banks, etc. If that suits you .... well. For me, it's better to carry your license with you.
                  1. -5
                    14 October 2019 17: 23
                    We are already under control: passport, military officer, SNILS, TIN, rights, medical card, credit card, etc. etc. With a very great desire, you can access this information, and the special services it is due to the nature of the activity. Therefore, I am only for the abolition of all these pieces of paper.
                    1. +4
                      14 October 2019 17: 31
                      wassat You are far from life, if you think so! I will not shine here with facts) but your statement
                      We are already under control: passport, military officer, SNILS, TIN, rights, medical card, credit card, etc. etc.
                      not quite right)
                  2. -1
                    15 October 2019 13: 19
                    Denis, they do not understand and do not want anything. The ultimate goal of all these events is universal chipping.
                    1. 0
                      15 October 2019 13: 26
                      Chipping of children is introduced in Europe. This is reported by Italian and German media. Why chip babies? Allegedly, with the help of the chip it will always be possible to determine the location of the child. You need to be either an idiot or a zombie system, so as not to understand the whole vileness of this event, to establish control over people.
                      1. 0
                        15 October 2019 13: 44
                        Quote: dirk182
                        Chipping of children is introduced in Europe. This is reported by Italian and German media.

                        What kind of media shared with you such chilling details?
                2. +2
                  14 October 2019 17: 49
                  https://vestnik-rm.ru/articles/kalejdoskop/rostelekom-i-nspk-budut-vmeste-razvivat-edinuyu-biometricheskuyu-sistemu Rostelecom and NSPK will jointly develop the Unified Biometric System. It’s not long to wait.
            2. +1
              14 October 2019 17: 29
              If you understand information security, then everything is done very differently. Read the books of Kevin Mitnick.
              1. 0
                14 October 2019 17: 34
                Well, actually, the biggest vulnerability in IT security (and not only in IT, in any kind of security) is a person. Although blockchain technology is encouraging.
                1. +1
                  14 October 2019 17: 35
                  It’s not worth discussing this, I think so
    3. +2
      14 October 2019 16: 56
      Quote: Oleg133
      Or is it not the patriots of the Russian government gathered?

      Patriots are not power
    4. +3
      14 October 2019 17: 44
      Correctly, he says, Russia is for all its citizens, regardless of nationality. Only he does not say that Russia is for migrants.
    5. -1
      15 October 2019 12: 04
      Ask such a stupid question ...
  13. +26
    14 October 2019 16: 09
    Now the moderators and members of the forum, they will leave me behind ... But, these Tajiks, Uzbeks and other "workers' representatives" from various camps are just "crap." In the city of Volkhov, where I now live, they were massively involved in the construction and as a result, almost every week, rape (including minors), drugs, pull out bags, earrings, and our valiant "policemen structures" did not "see corpus delicti". These representatives of the "stans" understand only the language of force, conversation and arguments are useless for them. When these "camps" began to pester the neighbor's child (a 15-year-old girl), two representatives were put to rest and lowered from the 4th floor, in the process they "accidentally" banged their heads on every step. While they are silent, for how long?
    1. +1
      14 October 2019 23: 13
      Quote: Petrograd
      When these "stans" began to pester the neighbor's child (a 15-year-old girl)

      Uzbeks pestered my friend. Sent them nafig. He said - I’ll ditch Lagging behind.
    2. -1
      18 October 2019 04: 17
      Quote: Petrograd
      Now the moderators and members of the forum, they will leave me behind ... But, these Tajiks, Uzbeks and other "workers' representatives" from various camps are just "crap." In the city of Volkhov, where I now live, they were massively involved in the construction and as a result, almost every week, rape (including minors), drugs, pull out bags, earrings, and our valiant "policemen structures" did not "see corpus delicti". These representatives of the "stans" understand only the language of force, conversation and arguments are useless for them. When these "camps" began to pester the neighbor's child (a 15-year-old girl), two representatives were put to rest and lowered from the 4th floor, in the process they "accidentally" banged their heads on every step. While they are silent, for how long?

      Is it really true what you wrote ???
      Or is it to raise the "tone" of the "public" mood on the VO ???
      I just want to get reliable information.
      I would like to know to know the truth. hi
      1. 0
        19 October 2019 23: 34
        Quote: brat07
        Is it really true what you wrote ???
        Or is it to raise the "tone" of the "public" mood on the VO ???
        I just want to get reliable information.
        I would like to know to know the truth.


        Check out:
        78.ru
        The court found guilty a man who beat and raped a minor peturgenka. This was reported by the press service of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for St. Petersburg.

        September 16, 2018 41 year old native Central Asian republics I noticed a girl returning home late at night. A man attacked a minor Petersburger, dragged him to the side of the road, and then beat and raped her. After that, the man went on the run and grabbed the girl’s cell phone and other things with him.

        The Petersburger was hospitalized in the Volkhov hospital with numerous bodily injuries and placed in intensive care, where doctors subsequently managed to stabilize her condition.

        The man was found guilty and sentenced to 12 years in prison with a sentence in a maximum security colony.

        Recall that earlier in Otradnoy a man came to visit an 83-year-old grandmother and raped her.
        https://78.ru/news/2019-09-13/migranta_posadyat_na_12_let_za_izbienie_i_iznasilovanie_nesovershennoletnei_peterburzhenki?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
        "Nevsky News":
        In Volkhov detained unemployed tajikon the street brutally raped a minor student
        08: 43 17.09.20181335
        In the Leningrad region, in Volkhov Tajik citizen raped a minor college student. Police detained a man.
        Police in the Leningrad Region detained a man from Tajikistan who attacked and raped a minor college student. A girl in serious condition was hospitalized in a hospital in the city of Volkhov.

        On September 16, 2018, at 23-50, a woman born in 1966 contacted the police. The applicant described the rape.

        The incident occurred on the same day, at about 23-20 in the city of Volkhov, 800 meters from house number 6 on Tsvetochnaya Street. An unknown criminal, using physical force, raped her niece, born in 2001, a second year student of the Volkhov Polytechnic College, who was returning home, and fled the scene.

        The girl in serious condition was hospitalized in the Volkhov hospital.

        Doctors diagnosed the victim of the attack with traumatic ruptures penetrating into the abdominal cavity, closed craniocerebral trauma, posthemorrhagic anemia, hemorrhagic shock.

        Law enforcement officers detained the rapist. It turned out to be Tajik citizen Born in 1978, unemployed, located in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad region without registration.
        https://nevnov.ru/593051-v-volkhove-zaderzhali-bezrabotnogo-tadzhika-na-ulice-zhestoko-iznasilovavshego-nesovershennoletnyuyu-studentku
        Check it out for yourself, if you don’t believe it, it hurts me very much and it’s not pleasant, it ruined the girl’s life. There are many such incidents (and 99% are "friends" from various camps), much is hushed up, but the city is small, everything is becoming a reality. And your words "about raising the tone" and the mood of the "VO public" are more blasphemous. The minus is not mine, although I think you should apologize, it all depends on you Igor ...
        1. +1
          21 October 2019 22: 16
          The minus is not mine, although I think you should apologize, it all depends on you Igor ...

          Sorry if I offended you.
          But I really wanted to know the truth.
          And yes, there are all kinds of people. This is not my excuse.
          1. 0
            21 October 2019 22: 55
            Believe me, Igor, I do not need to "whip up" and invent, alas, it is with these representatives of the "stans" that the growth of crime in the city where I now live is connected. Unfortunately, they are somehow trying to hide this in the media, although I think you yourself know everything very well.
            1. 0
              21 October 2019 23: 05
              Quote: Petrograd
              Believe me, Igor, I do not need to "whip up" and invent, alas, it is with these representatives of the "stans" that the growth of crime in the city where I now live is connected. Unfortunately, they are somehow trying to hide this in the media, although I think you yourself know everything very well.

              Alexander, in my city there is no such crime among migrant workers. I know what I'm talking about.
              And 8 Uzbeks and 6 from Ukraine are working in production.
              Relations with the Uzbeks are even. By the way, very hardworking. There were no complaints from anyone
              Something like that.
  14. +19
    14 October 2019 16: 22
    I think that people began to realize migrants not only as uncomfortable neighbors, but also as shreihrecher,
    which lower salaries. Incomes of the population have been declining for several years in a row at an accelerated pace and this obviously does not add up.
    social policies that maximize not the improvement of the life of local people, but namely the influx of migrants (for example, benefits for large families) encourages the degree.
    the third point is socialization. Honestly, I’m already enraged that the whole city is in shawarma and different tyndyrs, and there is no local cuisine left. Signs in non-Russian languages ​​- I don’t like this culture and not only me,
    and all the asphalt and poles in the migrant services advertisements for migrants.
    and lastly, why does it turn out that it’s much harder for a Russian passport to return to live in the country than an Uzbek to come to earn money?
    Another point is the quality of work of migrants. They are often hardworking people, but their work is peculiar. That drivers of minibuses that builders - not a few complaints about what is happening.
    Yes, and they agree to work for any, even one that spoils the environment of the city.

    That all together has greatly fueled xenophobia.
    It so happened that migrants personally hardly annoy me in any way, except for an illegal kindergarten in the apartment opposite, but even this question already worries me.
    1. +1
      14 October 2019 16: 43
      Suffer a little after the 24th, we will arrange a fun life for all of them - it’s necessary that they boil harder in society and only then open the valve: the death penalty will return for corruption and especially serious crimes and the judge will be touched like all officials and will reach uncontrolled Gaster
      1. +2
        14 October 2019 17: 12
        repression is not a program of change, but its imitation.
        1. +1
          14 October 2019 20: 11
          In Russia, this is precisely the program of changes - everything is different with us, like with everyone.
    2. +13
      14 October 2019 16: 59
      Well, if xenophobia is growing in society, then this is encouraging - it is too early to put an end to it, it can recover. So there are still defenses in our body.
  15. +15
    14 October 2019 16: 36
    Dear Victor Kuzovkov!
    What is the example of India. Isn't there a closer country and a very European focus?
    You forgot about the Republic of Poland!
    Which is fighting for the mono-ethnicity of its population!
    And by all means opposes the acceptance of migrants of a different race and religion!
    Not one step back: Poland opposed the EU on the issue of refugees
    15.06.2017
    The other day, the leader of the ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party in Poland, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, said in an interview with Gazeta Polska that accepting a large number of refugees in his country is fraught with risks. “For the sake of this, we would have to completely change our cultural structure, radically reduce the level of security in our country. This is not only a terrorist threat, it is much more serious - the possibility of a social catastrophe. If this process is started, it cannot be stopped already ”, - the politician considers.
  16. +6
    14 October 2019 16: 48
    From personal -
    Quarrel of cashiers at grocery store over months of vacation!
    "A girl with an Asian (I am not claiming that she is a migrant, as she did not look in her passport), her appearance said that she needed a certain summer month because of her children!
    In response from another girl of European appearance, she heard - Do my children mean PUPPIES? And they don't need to spend the summer month with their own mother? "
    I don’t know how the squabble ended - I left the store!
    1. +1
      14 October 2019 19: 49
      It is always like this: everyone wants a summer vacation. We had a vacation schedule for next year and they stuck me in October, and 10 years was in the summer
  17. +7
    14 October 2019 17: 04
    As long as there are no Russians in power, it will be so - the farther the worse.
  18. +4
    14 October 2019 17: 08
    This suggests that our government and the guarantor do not need "dear Russians" for nothing ... As M. Thatcher said, 50 million is enough to extract resources and drive them to the west, so that a non-replaceable one is no different from a humpbacked one ..
    1. 0
      15 October 2019 08: 06
      Quote: Desdecado
      no different ..

      All the difference in the level of influence on the situation:
      1. Gorbachev - he didn’t own the situation, so he couldn’t influence in any way, he went with the flow as ...
      2. Yeltsin - pretending to own the situation, influenced only the visual side of the changes (while the current FSB FSB was preparing to take the reins of power behind him, for which he is given honor, respect and the Yeltsin centers)
      3. "permanent" - see in brackets about Yeltsin and everything falls into place (figures that truly influence the situation are usually very quickly eliminated, therefore political longevity is an indicator of the opposite, IMHO)
      4. "next" will also just play the role of an independent player
      5. ... and the subsequent also ...
      Alas, this is the "genetic rule" of politics. Everywhere. Flamboyant and memorable personalities who have contributed to explosive changes are the exception rather than the rule in this swamp where untouched and all-concealing mud on the surface is prized.
  19. Egg
    0
    14 October 2019 17: 08
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Well, they probably work not in comparison with ours?
    Reply

    Well, how can I tell you, I hired a Tajik team to build a house on the land. 4 people, they work generally well, at 6 in the morning they were already working, they finished when it was dark, they didn’t get drunk or leave their work, they worked all summer, they put in a box, rough floors, a roof, windows, doors. They removed the garbage without reminders, brought the remains of the material into the house and carefully packed it in piles. Naturally, I checked the key nodes and moments personally, they did it under my control. I am satisfied. Although ... the locals considered me a fully finished turnkey house for 4,5 llamas, greedy, hired Tajiks, they seemed to offer cheaper, but right now I figured it out, invested more than 3 llamas, and until turnkey readiness as before Beijing .. ..
    Perhaps the constant changes in the project affected, only the appearance remained from the original
    1. 0
      14 October 2019 17: 49
      Quote: Telur
      Perhaps the constant changes in the project affected, only the appearance remained from the original

      We, too, somehow decided to paste the wallpaper in the apartment, as a result, everything lasted for two years and almost lyam money. There is another apartment. laughing
    2. +4
      14 October 2019 17: 58
      Hired Tajiks? Will you resent their dominance in Russia?
      1. Egg
        +4
        14 October 2019 20: 31
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Hired Tajiks? Will you resent their dominance in Russia?

        No, I never was indignant, I am more annoyed by the dominance of people from the Caucasus and especially the fact that the police have become too many .... wherever you look they are in police uniform.
        1. -3
          14 October 2019 20: 33
          You won’t do anything with the Caucasus - they are citizens of Russia. They have a right.
    3. 0
      15 October 2019 00: 41
      Quote: Telur
      Well, how can I tell you, I hired a Tajik team to build a house on the land. Xnumx person, work generally well,

      Gee-gee. My brother-bourgeois hired a Tajik brigade. Also four. So I had to pull the insulation three times under the roof for them. There everything is clearly written in the instructions, how to pull, so no, they can’t read ... They only worked when the brother arrived. Uncle and I dug a ditch for drainage, and they sat, chasing teas. In general, they did not know that I was his brother, and loafed. But as the brother-in-law came, they began to work.
  20. -14
    14 October 2019 17: 46
    According to the opinion poll conducted by the Levada Center, xenophobic and nationalist sentiments sharply increased in Russia.

    Most likely - the poll was paid by the liberals. The Russian people are not xenophobic and not Nazi like the Ukrainian Bendera.
    1. +17
      14 October 2019 19: 02
      Quote: d.olegov44
      The Russian people are not xenophobic and not Nazi like Ukrainian Bendera

      Yes, it’s not xenophobe and not a Nazi, but nevertheless we don’t like it when strangers come to our house with their own charter. Here I personally do not want to adapt to their lifestyle. Sorry, but this is my house, I was born and raised on this earth ! And I do not want to live with the conditional Fatima, rolled into the bedspreads, and the conditional Said not knowing that the garbage should not be thrown out of the window, but should be used by the garbage chute. There are somehow such thoughts.
  21. +9
    14 October 2019 18: 15
    You just need to ban the entry of a low-skilled slave. strength and all. No master's degree or higher - goodbye.
  22. +4
    14 October 2019 18: 18
    It is necessary to completely ban the entry of a low-skilled slave. strength. No master's degree or higher - goodbye!
    1. 0
      14 October 2019 19: 51
      And Tajik doctors with a Turkmen diploma will sweep the streets?
      We now have many doctors from Ukraine who are hired by medical institutions in the hope that the Ukrainian diploma and practice are in line with the European standard. We already burned, despite the fact that some still had Soviet diplomas. Maybe bought, now we understand.
      1. 0
        15 October 2019 12: 06
        21st century, cars should clean the streets, not people.
  23. 0
    14 October 2019 19: 36
    Launch the Alien Army yourself !! Maybe Zhirinovsky decides this question, it would be time for him to be president!
  24. +4
    14 October 2019 19: 42
    "they can easily cut off a hand or head" where exactly is a hand cut off?
    In my opinion, the reason is not in pension reform, but because people are not sure of safety. Look what happens: with each impudent terrorism, we all see on TV what is happening in Germany, we hear about the ISIS cell. Who can guarantee that migrant workers will not take place in ISIS?
    A friend of mine from the police (the police are more familiar to me) said that these migrant workers were involved in drugs. And every year the situation worsens around the world
  25. DPN
    +4
    14 October 2019 20: 01
    Of course, if you take it, along with their territory, and why the heck it is NECESSARY to clog your area. Yes, probably from school remember: what a capitalist will sell his mother for 300%, so that everything goes according to their plan.
  26. +4
    14 October 2019 20: 08
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Guards turn
    but the USSR (confidence in tomorrow) cannot be returned.

    Why? The USSR is not a quick matter, but a socialist Russia, it’s quite possible for itself .. Here you need to wake up and I’m sure that for the next election people will wake up and vote for the socialists ..

    I wholeheartedly favor, but no longer believe G. A. Zyuganov! Who will lead?
  27. +7
    14 October 2019 20: 21
    immigration policy of Russia quiet horror it all boils down to slavery and there is no return of ethnic Russians and other peoples of the federation such a feeling is made so that horns and legs will stop from Russia in 50 years. Obtain Russian citizenship to the Russian-speaking Slovenian is a problem, but narrow-eyed brothers I’ll run away fact, it is not strange that patriots of Russia abroad are more than in Russia itself
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    1. +3
      14 October 2019 21: 56
      Don't you think your belief in 24 naive?
      1. +4
        14 October 2019 22: 22
        It seems. But without faith it will be completely sad. Yes, and now it’s necessary to prepare for the Maidan) Maybe it’ll resolve?) Maybe the moon-faced man realizes the depth of the indecency he is doing and finally realizes that the Russian people will curse him to the eighth knee.
        And among the Jews and Muslims, he will remain a clown.
        1. +1
          15 October 2019 08: 28
          Quote: Lexus
          But without faith it will be completely sad.

          And I probably agree. Only faith remained. The entire so-called "opposition" feels the situation subtly, does not want to go into contradiction with the existing order (and it has nothing to go there with), it simply adapts by portraying tireless activity. Actually, except for a similar scheme of the existing order, no one can offer, well, maybe a little more pseudo-social and theatrical concern for the people. Some say that there is no intelligible ideology in Russia. I agree with indistinctness, but the ideology in my opinion is vague, but can be traced. Unfortunately, I don't see anything social there. Farmer Caring for Healthy Bacon - and Welcome to Capitalism.
  29. +3
    14 October 2019 23: 14
    Quote: Tatiana
    Most Russians in Russia do not have an official job - there is no family and no children! What kind of growth in the demographics of the indigenous population can we talk about ?! Russians as a state, the forming people are dying out due to the migration and political and economic policies of the authorities.
    Russia is a state of national minorities, and the Russian people in their backyards!


    I fully support!
    For years, a sense of nationality was extorted from the Russian people, betrayed and sold Russians in the former Soviet republics, and for migrants whose fathers expelled and killed Russians, they create greenhouse conditions in the Russian Federation.
    Business, thanks to the treacherous migration policy, does not have time to count the profits from cheap labor. But it is prudently fenced off from the wave of Gaster crime by six meter-high fences on the ruble, sends its ousters over the hill, to the banks of the Thames.
    And ordinary people drink the cup in full, grief and humiliation, murder, rape and robbery in broad daylight.

    "Our" public servants will never be able to repeat these words.

    "One of these days the leader of the ruling party in Poland" Law and Justice "(PiS) Jaroslav Kaczynski In an interview Gazeta Polska stated that accepting a large number of refugees in his country was fraught with risks. “For the sake of this, we would have to completely change our cultural structure, radically reduce the level of security in our country. This is not only a terrorist threat, it is much more serious - the possibility of a social catastrophe. If this process is started, it cannot be stopped already ”, - the politician thinks. "


  30. -1
    15 October 2019 07: 54
    Thanks to Putin and Co.
  31. 0
    15 October 2019 15: 07
    We just need to replace all Russians with guest workers, otherwise we’re tired of exerting ourselves every five years, promising to improve our lives and arrange a vote. :)
  32. +1
    16 October 2019 08: 12
    All these migrants bring enormous harm to Russia and are imported into the Russian Federation by the enemies of the country and people! Migrants do not have a decent education, which means that they impede the introduction of automation and increase labor productivity and the quality of goods. Migrants do not want to respect the laws and the indigenous population of the Russian Federation, which leads to an increase in crime and tension in the country, negatively affecting its development! In addition, in the United States migrants accepting US citizenship take an oath to protect the United States and their interests in arms, including from their historical homeland, in the Russian Federation this, unfortunately, is not observed and this is a criminal flaw in the Russian authorities, including Putin! In the Gulf countries, migrants most often do not have citizenship, being satisfied with a residence permit and do not have the social benefits that only the indigenous people have there (the right to vote and be elected, social payments for children, etc.)
  33. +2
    17 October 2019 00: 19
    In the housing and communal services - newcomers, in stores - newcomers, I went to the MFC - there are also newcomers ....
    Well-dressed, with a slight accent, senior experts ..... all the time running around asking for advice from 1-2 girls what to fill out ....

    In the village, half speak non-Russian .... and problems in crime have also come ...
  34. +2
    18 October 2019 00: 56
    The "Putinites", led by the moon-faced and the sun-like, are leading the country on the right path.

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