Erdogan is not enough "Turkish stream"?

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Transit aggression


In Turkey, the Kurds have always been and remain in the position of a non-titular nation, approximately like the Armenians. Ankara, for which nationalist politics is the norm, has always struggled with any manifestations of nationalism on their part. However, for the Turkish military operation in northern Syria, the notorious fight against Kurdish terrorists is nothing more than a veil, which should cover the real interest of the country's ruling circles.





The course of hostilities is very clearly stated in the publication of the Military Review: "Turkish Air Force struck at the self-proclaimed capital of Syrian Kurdistan - Kamyshly". And the interest mentioned above stems primarily from Ankara’s long-standing desire to fully seize transit oil and gas pipelines from northern Iraq through the Syrian North to ports in the south and south-west of Turkey: Ceyhan, Iskenderun and Yumurtalik.

Turkey expects to reorient pipelines from this oil and gas region of Syria from its ports to the same ports in the south of the country. And along the way, "solve" the problem of the self-proclaimed state of the Kurds in northern Syria. For Ankara, the real headache is that the “state” is an incentive for the insurgent Kurdish movement in southern Turkey, adjacent to the Syrian Kurdish region.

At the same time, the sharply negative reaction of the United States to such plans is due to the fact that Washington is not interested in strengthening Turkey’s role as the main transit corridor for oil and gas raw materials from Syria and northern Iraq. In other words, the Turkish Stream, the Southern Gas Corridor (SGC: the Azerbaijan-Georgia-Turkey-Balkans gas pipeline) and the Caspian-Mediterranean BTC pipeline (Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan port) will suffice from it.

Erdogan is not enough "Turkish stream"?


In this regard, information from the Federal Agency is noteworthy. News from June 21, 2017: “SSA” units (one of the anti-Assad groups. - Approx. Aut.), supported by the US-led antiterrorist coalition, are targeted at Deir ez-Zor, one of Syria’s richest oil and gas regions (near the junction the borders of Syria, Turkey and Iraq. - Approx. Thus, Washington, with the help of Syrian opposition fighters, intends to take control of energy resources and the pipeline through Turkey through the territory and from the wells of this province. ”

Recall that before the conflict in Syria, about half of the transit of North Iraqi oil was pumped for subsequent export to the Syrian ports of Baniyas and Tartus. Up to a third of the volumes were in neighboring Turkish ports (Yumurtalyk, Ceyhan, Iskenderun) and about 15% - in the ports of Lebanon (Sidon, Tripoli), connected to trans-Syrian pipelines. The war in Syria, of course, “froze” the Syrian and Syrian-Lebanese oil transit.

But Turkey in the field of domestic consumption and re-export soon mastered more than 80% of the total volume of oil supplies from Iraqi Kurdistan, that is, Northern Iraq. Moreover, the share of North Iraqi raw materials in the actual consumption of oil and oil products in Turkey has already exceeded 60%. And oil and gas in the northern region of Syria, which has been “patronized” by Turkey since the beginning of the intra-Syrian conflict, is now also consumed by Turkey by almost 100%.

Old accounts


Transit pipelines from Northern Iraq were built at the end of the 40's - the beginning of the 70's, but so "bizarre" that they repeatedly cross northern Syria and the neighboring south of Turkey. It was as if everything had been built with a reserve for future conflicts between Ankara and Damascus for control of these arteries.



And they were built from the north of Iraq to the Mediterranean ports because it is through these corridors that the shortest distance to the European market (in contrast to the ports of South Iraq). It is clear why a very similar conflict situation developed here 60 years ago, when Syria and Lebanon, having gained independence from France, became owners - at least geographically - of transit oil arteries and ports on their territory.

But France, together with Great Britain and the USA in the first half of the 50's, tried to tear off these oil pipelines and ports. At the same time, uniting them in a certain international zone under the control of the same powers - like the British-French condominium in the Suez Canal and along both its banks until the middle of the 50's inclusive.

But it did not happen - for a number of interrelated political reasons. Including due to opposition from Turkey, which intended to seize transit pipelines with the United States or “separately” adjacent to it. Recall that in 1957, Turkey and the United States were preparing an invasion of Syria, because its then "pro-Pacer" authorities rejected the long-term concession project proposed by Washington and Ankara for almost all Syria transit oil pipelines.



In addition, since the end of the 30 of the last century, Turkey claimed almost 90% of the territory of Northern Syria, which was associated with the same oil transit factor and the desire to control the North Syrian Kurds.

However, then the USSR prevented aggression: on October 18 on October 1957 a TASS statement was published, where, in particular, it was noted that
“The Turkish General Staff, together with American military advisers, developed an operational plan for military operations against Syria. No one should have any doubt that in the event of an attack on Syria, the USSR, guided by the goals and principles of the UN Charter and the interests of its security, will take all necessary measures to provide assistance to the victim of aggression. "


Ankara’s desire to completely seize transit ports in the neighboring region of Syria dates back to the second half of the same 30-s, when Turkey managed to tear away from Syria, the French protectorate (in 1920-1943), the port of Alexandretta (now Iskenderun) with an adjacent area . Since even then the Turkish authorities planned to seize the North Iraqi oil and its transit (“How the Turks in 1939 year arranged a“ circumcision ”of Syria).



In a word, Turkey still wants to completely master all the oil and gas transit routes in a vast region, from the Black and Caspian Seas to the Eastern Mediterranean and the Middle East. And for this it is necessary at all costs to “add” other oil and gas corridors to the Turkish Stream, BTC and SGC ...
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  1. +1
    16 October 2019 15: 07
    Well ... a bolt to the Turks! Too Many people want to ride Bolivar ... but as you know, Bolivar will not take out two!
    1. +3
      16 October 2019 15: 19
      Nevertheless, all pipes are "pulled" by itself. He dreams, like his chubby partners, to sit on the valve. Oh, and he will spoil the blood.
      1. +1
        16 October 2019 21: 11
        Quote: lexus
        Nevertheless, all pipes are "pulled" by itself. He dreams, like his chubby partners, to sit on the valve. Oh, and he will spoil the blood.

        Why not, geography + relative stability. Isis is also lured. And "We are all brothers in faith" when it comes to the dough. It is forgotten how Erdogan growled when we bombed the ISIS oil tankers by hundreds. But ISIS, Kurds may start tearing up oil pipelines, or they may not. There are too many chairs under Erdogan and the United States will knock out one and it will crash painfully, and we will still cry request for it will be ours S.Syn.
  2. -1
    16 October 2019 15: 18
    But is it not too cool for Turkey to own all transit routes (in that region)? The kooky as a superpower - and they themselves can not suppress internal rebels, nor external opponents, even tanks lose completely anecdotally.
    1. +1
      16 October 2019 15: 26
      You're right. But wanting is much more useful than NOT wanting. But here with all the questions as experience teaches (England, USA), the customer may want, but within the limits set in advance .... Otherwise, not only image and economic losses. Nobody canceled pragmatism! hi
    2. +4
      16 October 2019 16: 00
      Quote: Basarev
      even tanks lose completely anecdotally.

      As historical experience shows, Ottomans can only fight with the weak, but ambition is higher than the roof. The only time they were our allies against the French, and even then, wanting to rob the Sicilians, came across a stiff rebuff from the inhabitants of Palermo and having lost about 50 people, the Turkish squadron rebelled and deserted in full force, leaving the commander in chief with the combined fleet of Ushakov, and withdrew from all sails home to Turetchin.
      1. -3
        16 October 2019 21: 41
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        As historical experience shows, Ottomans can only fight with the weak, but ambition is higher than the roof.

        well, they fought with the weak and the strong and with different results. their story is rich. at the same time, in the era of the empire, it was a nation comparable in number ... with Belarusians, for example.
        can you imagine the Belarusian empire in 3 parts of the world and tens of millions of conquered non-Belarusians? I can not.
        1. xax
          +1
          17 October 2019 03: 03
          Quote: protoss
          era of the empire, it was a nation comparable in number ... with Belarusians

          Quote: protoss
          tens of millions of conquered non-Belarusians

          Where are the numbers from? Is there anything to confirm them with?
          Quote: protoss
          and with weak and with strong and with different results

          I don’t know how you do in Turkey, but in Russia we don’t like empty boasting. When did Turkey defeat serious opponents?
          1. -3
            17 October 2019 04: 28
            ... when Istanbul was Constantinople ..
            1. xax
              +3
              17 October 2019 05: 36
              And then Byzantium lost most of its territories, Constantinople weakened, emptied, after which it became the prey of the Ottomans.
          2. -5
            17 October 2019 15: 21
            Where are the numbers from? Is there anything to confirm them with?

            You can compare the figures, for example, before the fall of the Ottoman and Russian empires. in the Russian empire there was a census in 1897, in the Ottoman in 1914. open data - study.
            we in Russia do not like empty boasting.

            but, apparently, they respect a narrow horizons, although I doubt it. read books appropriate, now everything is available online, you won’t ask stupid questions.
            When did Turkey defeat serious opponents?

            finally, it was about the Ottomans - see above. The Republic of Turkey did not participate in major wars.
            and against the opponents of the Ottomans - the Mamluk Sultanate, holy leagues, Austria (Habsburgs), Russia, Commonwealth speech, Persia (Safavids). There were many wars with different results. I see no reason to retell Google to help you.
            1. xax
              0
              17 October 2019 19: 05
              Quote: protoss
              data is open - study

              If a person puts forward a thesis - they are expected from him to prove this thesis. If there is no evidence, the person himself and his thesis begin to look, to put it mildly, not very. If you are comfortable with a reputation for yourself knowing someone, then your reputation also suits me even more so.
              Quote: protoss
              , Austria (Habsburgs), Russia, Commonwealth speech

              I asked you when she won, and not when she grabbed the lyuley or sat behind the skirt of a large ally.
              1. -3
                17 October 2019 21: 51
                The census of the population of the Russian Empire in 1897 gives the following figures for the mother tongue:
                Belarusian: Men 2922858 Women 2962689 Both sexes 5885547
                the Ottoman census of 1914 gives 12222702 Muslims in an empire without Arab vilayets. if we subtract from here the Kurds, Zazaks, Muhajirs, Laz, Khemshils, Greek Muslims, Albanians, etc. (since the census does not distinguish them from the total number of Muslims) we get 6-7 million Turks proper.
                I asked you when she defeated
                ,
                optionally, the Mamluk sultanate in 1517, the holy league of the 16th century in 1573, the Habsburgs in 1567, 1606 and 1739, Russia in 1711 and 1856, the Safavids in 1555 and 1590
                1. xax
                  0
                  17 October 2019 22: 20
                  Quote: protoss
                  if we subtract from here the Kurds, Zazaks, Muhajirs, Laz, Khemshils, Greek Muslims, Albanians, etc. (since the census does not distinguish them from the total number of Muslims) we get 6-7 million Turks actually

                  Thank you for the construct preceding this phrase. But this phrase is not accepted, of course. About unsubstantiated theses, we have already discussed everything above.

                  Russia in 1711 and 1856


                  I ask you, for the third time - the victory of Turkey over a strong opponent. Not those moments when Turkey served a legitimate or random ally, but when it itself defeated some powerful power in the war.

                  The Russian-Turkish war of 1710-1713. This is when the Russians took what they wanted, and then, not being defeated in battle, left these places to untie their hands in the Baltic, naturally considering the Baltic region - much more interesting in terms of efforts?

                  The Crimean War of 1853-1856. I literally asked you not to mention the moments when Turkey was hiding behind the skirt of her senior ally. And you give me the Crimean War as an example. Are you kidding me?

                  For the rest - even I will not disassemble. It must be the same there.

                  Really, Turkey in its entire history has never defeated anyone in battle? I thought at least a couple of normal examples would be - but here in general a failure. Even I did not expect))
                  1. 0
                    18 October 2019 12: 13
                    behind the skirt of her senior ally

                    with this logic, our victories in most Russian-Turkish wars can be called into question, because in the 17-18 centuries, Russia (and the rest - from here and all these sacred leagues) practically did not act against the Ottomans alone. Austria was the main ally, and it was the Balkan front, where Austrian troops operated, was a priority for the Turks (the main population and, accordingly, the empire’s revenues from European possessions), and we mainly fought with the Tatars.
                    when Russia itself found itself in this position - alone against the coalition (Crimean war), the result was naturally not in our favor.
                    For the rest - even I will not disassemble. It must be the same there.

                    those. You are not familiar with the military history of the Ottoman Empire, but you are sure that it did not defeat serious opponents. super. then it is not a question of knowledge, but a question of your beliefs and prejudices. then before whom am I throwing beads here?
                    1. xax
                      -1
                      18 October 2019 13: 35
                      Quote: protoss
                      practically did not act against the Ottomans alone

                      Being just that very big ally, behind the skirt of which the others were hiding. But Turkey is the opposite.
                      Quote: protoss
                      when did Russia itself find itself in this position

                      You should not compare the dump truck and a children's bucket - look silly.
                      Quote: protoss
                      those. you are not familiar with the military history of the Ottoman Empire, but you are sure that it did not defeat serious opponents

                      As it turns out, I am familiar with this story to a great extent better than you.
                      Nevertheless, I gave you the opportunity (3 times!) To give an example. But you could not do this (wrote frank stupid things about the victory over Russia, for example). I come to the conclusion that there were no such victories.
                      Quote: protoss
                      who am I throwing beads to

                      Forgive me, throwing on beads, excuse me, it doesn’t seem like it at all - quite the opposite.
                    2. +1
                      18 October 2019 15: 27
                      It is clear that your concern is pro-Turkish propaganda. But why are you doing it so badly? How can it be called reasonable that on the Russian site you broadcast fables about Russia, hoping that the Russians do not know their history? This is twice stupid.
                      And my advice to you, stop already starting each of your dialogue with something like: "Yes, you don't know anything, I'll tell you everything right now!" - the level of intelligence and "depth" of knowledge demonstrated behind this does not at all fit with the initial ambition, which forces us to consider all your posts as the sounds with which the morning begins in the village.
                      1. 0
                        19 October 2019 18: 09
                        Quote: V.I.F.
                        It is clear that your concern is pro-Turkish propaganda.

                        Vladimir Ilyich (guessed?), I have no such concern.
                        Read carefully the comment thread. my opponents, having a very superficial idea of ​​the topic that they touched, consider it possible to make categorical statements. I just pointed out that they were wrong, because, apparently, I’m better acquainted with the question. I presented the numbers and dates in evidence when they asked me about this, although, as it turned out, the horse wasn’t feed.
                        If you summarize the answers to me, then in fact it all boiled down to "you are all lying." this is normal.
                        What kind of "fables about Russia" did you see in my comments?
                        And my advice to you

                        thanks for the advice, sorry to hurt you, but do not write deliberately false posts then, at least double-check yourself.
                      2. -2
                        22 October 2019 11: 26
                        Quote: protoss
                        Vladimir Ilyich (guessed?)

                        In your fantasy world, you are smart and insightful. But reality is more severe laughing
                        Quote: protoss
                        my opponents, having a very superficial understanding of the topic

                        Your opponents threw you on the shoulder blades from the very first posts. You lie, knock the handle-legs, but you can’t roll over on the paws)). If they have vague ideas, then you don’t have them at all, it turns out.
                        Quote: protoss
                        If you summarize the answers to me, then in fact it all boiled down to "you are all lying"

                        They answered you on all counts, moreover, with reasoning and with links to historical facts. If it turned out that you are lying, then this, sorry, is not the fault of your opponents laughing
                        Quote: protoss
                        sorry to hurt you

                        Me? You? And where?
    3. xax
      +4
      17 October 2019 03: 28
      Quote: Basarev
      totally anecdotal

      The ambitions of the Turks are quite dangerous, considering 4 factors:
      1) The Turks have a really large, well-armed and well-trained army, as well as a strong regional fleet.
      2) This is not the ambitions of individual politicians, but the ambitions of an entire people (most of this people), having rulers who share these views. Remember how supporters of Erdogan took to the streets under the tracks of armored vehicles entering the capital for a coup d'etat. For which world leader would his population do the same? Zaputinsky screamers from VO will go under the caterpillars to lay down, in which case? I don’t think so. This is a confirmation of the unity of views of Erdogan and the population of Turkey.
      3) In Turkey, the interests of Russia, the United States and Europe intersect, which gives the Turks the opportunity for a wide political maneuver to occupy the most advantageous position for themselves.
      4) Turkey has a rather powerful, growing economy (in terms of GDP 13th place PPP / 17th place nominal).
  3. 0
    16 October 2019 16: 04
    And the abovementioned interest stems primarily from Ankara’s long-standing desire to fully seize transit oil and gas pipelines from northern Iraq through the Syrian North to ports in the south and south-west of Turkey: Ceyhan, Iskenderun and Yumurtalik.
    ... And this is understandable ... Kurds are simply a cover for indicated interests, something in Kurdish Iraq, Turkey does not fight terrorists and does not conduct military operations .. We made an agreement with Iraqi Kurds ...
    1. -3
      16 October 2019 21: 32
      Quote: parusnik
      something in Kurdish Iraq, Turkey is not fighting terrorists and military operations are not carried out ..

      those. neither ear nor snout in this matter, but it is necessary to comment.
      on your luck, passed by, I will tell you what to google - Operation "Pençe". educate yourself.
  4. 0
    16 October 2019 21: 03
    A very intelligible explanation of the essence of the processes, otherwise everything: "Jomini, yes Jomini ...", but not a word about oil.
  5. -2
    16 October 2019 21: 36
    the article is a purely Russian view. in our understanding, the whole economy and politics revolves around hydrocarbons and pipelines. it is true with us, but for Turkey and many other countries this is only one of a number of sectors of the economy, no more and no less.
  6. xax
    +4
    17 October 2019 02: 57
    Something in this thread to not see screamers about how beneficial it is for us that Turkey began to squeeze the land from our ally Syria). Here, the campaign, to tell them nothing at all.
  7. -1
    17 October 2019 08: 27
    ... when Istanbul was Constantinople ..
  8. 0
    19 October 2019 15: 05
    Very interesting information! It turns out aggression in Syria, is this a long-term Turkish plan ?!
  9. 0
    22 October 2019 20: 35
    In Turkey, the Kurds have always been and remain in the position of a non-titular nation, approximately like the Armenians. tt

    15 minutes of Kurds and 100 rear of Armenians should be in the title? ...- in Russia are Chechens and Tatars the title? ... Are there Talyshs and Lezghins in Azerbaijan in the title? ... Are the Kurds the titular in Armenia? ...- Nonsense, not an article!
    In Turkey, the Kurds have always been and remain in the position of a non-titular nation, approximately like the Armenians.

    AND WHAT HERE ARE MINORITIES ????

    Russia is worried about pipes going around (yes who cares. Which is at the shortest distance). Turks also pull a blanket over themselves.

    At the same time, the sharply negative reaction of the United States to such plans is due to the fact that Washington is not interested in strengthening Turkey’s role as the main transit corridor for oil and gas raw materials from Syria and northern Iraq. In other words, the Turkish Stream, the Southern Gas Corridor (SGC: the Azerbaijan-Georgia-Turkey-Balkans gas pipeline) and the Caspian-Mediterranean BTC pipeline (Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan port) will suffice from it.

    LIBERATE? ....- I did not read further ...
  10. 0
    22 October 2019 21: 23
    Turkey consumes a ton of oil per year in the 35 + region ... Kurdistan (Iraqi) produces about 0,4 million barrels per day ...- even if they themselves do not eat, and everyone will please Turchin - well, no matter how even 25mln does not pull. ..And after all, Tehran is being sold from Baku .... and they themselves produce 3-4mln tons.
    Baghdad, 19 Nov. - IA Neftegaz.RU. The authorities of Iraq and Iraqi Kurdistan agreed on the resumption on November 16 of November 2018 of oil exports from fields in the Iraqi province of Kirkuk to the port of Ceyhan in Turkey.
    Since November 16, export has so far resumed in the amount of 50 thousand barrels per day.
    We are talking about the resumption of oil exports from Iraq to Turkey via the main oil pipeline (MNP) passing through the territory of Iraqi Kurdistan, the official representative of the Iraqi Ministry of Oil A. Jihad said on Friday 16 on November 2018.
    Oil will be exported and sold by the Iraqi state-owned company SOMO (State Oil Marketing Organization).
    It is expected that export volumes will increase in several stages: from 50 - 100 thousand barrels per day at the moment to 400 thousand barrels per day when full capacity is reached.
    If we take into account that in 2017 the export was about 300 thousand barrels per day, then the total increase in exports will be 100 thousand barrels per day.
    Oil export from the province of Kirkuk was stopped when the Iraqi federal government in October 2017 took control of the Kurdish oil fields in Kirkuk.

    https://neftegaz.ru/
    Well, why the hell are you? - Indeed, for such tales, before an afternoon nap in a kindergarten, the children of such a lecturer will throw poop!

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