Free pirate republics. Smuggling flourishes in LDN

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Is custom giving the go-ahead?


One of the most fascinating attractions in LDNR is crossing the border with Russia or the demarcation line with Ukraine. Moreover, it is worth admitting that the process still delivers maximum discomfort on the side of the republics. After a series of publications on how pensioners die on CPVV with Ukraine, they more or less put things in order there. And to this day, this is an extremely tiring and unpleasant procedure, which sometimes takes more than one hour from the "foot and horse" residents of the republics.





However, the situation on the border with Russia is even worse. Over the past five years, local authorities have not bothered to put things in order at customs checkpoints and organize at least the minimum conditions for people there. There are no toilets, there is no way to hide from the wind and the sun, there is no first-aid post. When you switch to the Russian side, it seems that you get from a clogged aul into civilization: the scope of metal detectors, comfortable rooms, polite border guards ...

Convenience is simply vital. Sometimes the lines of cars stretch for kilometers, and passing customs takes many hours. A full house also happens in the pedestrian crossing sector: on especially “successful” days, 300-400 people line up near the crossing. Unfortunately, neither in Donetsk nor in Lugansk did not bother to provide their citizens with at least minimal amenities.

The border is not shut


Over the past years, the rules for importing goods into Russia have been significantly tightened, while the LDN customs legislation is gradually being liberalized. Residents of New Russia calmly import food, clothing and office equipment in quantities that can be explained by their own needs. But importation into Russia is subject to strict restrictions, especially with regard to medicines, food, alcohol and cigarettes. Food, vegetables and fruits, preservation, honey, etc. border guards do not miss. Alcohol is allowed to carry no more than three liters, cigarettes - no more than a block.

A necessary measure - in LDNR alcohol and cigarettes are several times cheaper than in Russia. And even in this case, there are alternatively gifted people who work as shuttles and cross the border back and forth, transferring the permitted minimums of excisable goods. The profit is small, but it is - in LDNR you can buy a block of cigarettes for 200, and a liter of vodka for 120 rubles. Shuttles operate in a similar way on Ukrainian CPVV. Devices, perfumes, utensils, etc. are actively “introduced” into the republics themselves.

However, all this is childish pranks - the main thing happens under the cover of night.

And even swim ...


Despite all the efforts of the border guards, the flow of smuggled cigarettes, vodka, honey, sausages and sweets cannot be completely blocked. The border with Russia is hundreds of kilometers of virgin steppes and rugged terrain, as if specially created for smugglers who reliably settled here long before the war. Entire border villages and even towns live off smuggling. Violators are regularly caught, transport is selected, real terms are given, but there are still plenty of willing people.

There are even crazy people who risk smuggling smuggling across the demarcation line (bypassing agreements with customs or the military). At the risk of running into a minefield or a bullet, they set their trails dry and even transport their cargoes through Seversky Donets to the LPR.

However, the main trade is nevertheless by railways (coal, gasoline) and motor vehicles on the contact line of the enemy, through specially designated paths laid through the gray zone, in agreement with the local commanders of units deployed on this site.

Who needs a war? ..


The situation, in principle, is typical of any armed conflict. What to say about cigarettes or fuels and lubricants, if more than once or twice there were situations when the parties traded ammunition with each other. Last summer, in the Gorlovka area, they even caught one high-ranking commander on this, and it seems that everyone was hushed up ... At the beginning of the war, there were often situations when the APU sold not only ammunition, but also weapons. Once, the commander of the unit in which the author served, the Ukrainians offered to buy thousands of armored personnel carriers for 20.

All these are inescapable grimaces of war, especially civil war. And the longer this confusion lasts, when hurricane shelling is replaced by months of useless vigils on the front lines, the greater the line of demarcation will pass from the hands of the military to the hands of the marketers. Actually, like power.
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  1. +4
    15 October 2019 15: 08
    Exceptional with Mexico, the normal border can not do what to demand from New Russia, which is in legal and material blockade, also under bombing.
    1. +6
      15 October 2019 15: 19
      What is the manner in which the topic is immediately transferred to other countries? Is it about the United States now?
      1. +4
        15 October 2019 18: 44
        Russia has no order at home, what can the DPR say! recourse
      2. -1
        15 October 2019 19: 50
        Everything is relative
  2. +3
    15 October 2019 15: 16
    Yeah. All this LDNR is a mess. Judging by the publications, people are getting more and more tired of this. Neither the local authorities nor the Russian Federation have been able to propose and establish anything over 5 years. in terms of living standards in these republics compared with Ukraine. I don’t know how much patience the locals will have enough, but, as I wrote earlier, with the competent policy of Zelensky (which is not yet observed), the locals themselves will gladly come back
    1. +5
      15 October 2019 15: 21
      It is possible to restore order only as part of the Russian Federation. On my own. An example is Abkhazia. They want to live independently. And in a mess. About Zelensky. He really needs time, moreover, peaceful and calm. And in principle, he can turn up the country. But it seems he will not be allowed to do this, and he is neither a politician nor an economist. He simply expresses good intentions towards his country.
      1. +2
        15 October 2019 15: 24
        How many fought local officials and "businessmen" in Crimea? Maybe they are still putting things in order. And in these republics their hucksters and grabbers are sitting, and our FSB is no longer on them. So they do whatever they want
        1. 0
          22 October 2019 12: 13
          And what is this panacea? We have no grabbers and hucksters? We have, as it were, enrichment in the constitution. An article on private property, however.
    2. -7
      15 October 2019 16: 18
      In Ukraine, everything is getting more expensive.
      1. +6
        15 October 2019 17: 52
        AND?! What about us? Is it getting cheaper?
        1. 0
          15 October 2019 18: 29
          Quote: 210ox
          AND?! What about us? Is it getting cheaper?

          As Dangerous noted:
          Quote: Dangerous
          What is the manner in which the topic is immediately transferred to other countries?
          )
    3. +5
      15 October 2019 18: 42
      Quote: Dangerous
      All this LDNR is a mess.

      I’m embarrassed to ask, but were you there?
      From time to time I drive my car to my relatives in the LPR from Rostov through Novoshakhtinsk. I arrive at the Russian checkpoint at 2-30 or 3-00 o'clock. There are usually no people at this time. Somewhere in an hour I go through all the formalities (I prepare the declaration at home) and at about 4 o'clock. I'm in the LDNR. When there were no problems. Once they asked when leaving the LPR why I travel so often (there was a period when I went there 3 times a month), they asked who I was "in life", answered that a retired officer, quite formally asked to open the glove compartment, looked from about three meters and apologized released. The infrastructure is really in trouble there. Temporary trailers and booths.
    4. +5
      15 October 2019 18: 58
      These are figs! Personally, the term shines for me! So, such as I-vna, not a foot! So that Ze does not fall for it! But Natsik and laws against us, no one will separate the Separs! And the more they tighten the nuts at the customs, including the inter-republican ones, the more the double bass boils!
    5. +1
      15 October 2019 19: 32
      During the period of "independence" Ukraine has established a tax-free import of goods. And you are surprised during these five years.
    6. -1
      16 October 2019 15: 13
      Quote: Dangerous
      in terms of living standards in these republics compared with Ukraine

      The standard of living there is the same as in Ukraine.
      Quote: Dangerous
      but, as I wrote earlier, with a competent Zelensky policy (which is not yet observed), the locals themselves will gladly return

      Local does not come back and few people want to come back.
  3. +9
    15 October 2019 15: 19
    Who needs a war? ..

    The situation, in principle, is typical of any armed conflict.

    Russia is responsible for the Donbass and everything that happens there .. When the inhabitants of LDNR decided to become part of Russia, they threw them .. Although it was enough to recognize the independence of these republics and there would be no murders and a mess ..
    1. +7
      15 October 2019 15: 30
      Independence will do nothing good. They will be in isolation, like Abkhazians and Ossetians. What, they healed well after recognition? Ukraine is our neighbor, close people, though Russian-speaking. Americans for thousands of kilometers establish their loyal power, but ours could not prevent the fascist regime. In an extreme case, already in the 15-16s they could easily overthrow him (at the same time by the Ukrainians themselves), by freezing the supply of goods, primarily gas and coal. Profukali Ukraine. Americans at our very borders with the closest country have given us.
      1. +3
        15 October 2019 16: 45
        Quote: Dangerous
        Independence will do nothing good.

        This is the first step, then to Russia.
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 18: 34
        Quote: Dangerous
        Americans for thousands of kilometers establish their loyal power, but ours could not

        Ourselves recently got rid of loyalty.
    2. +3
      15 October 2019 15: 31
      I agree and disagree. Yes, we are responsible. About the residents decided, I disagree. Initially, the referendum did not ask about joining the Russian Federation .. And they are different, these residents ... I saw enough of the "foam" that poured from there in 2014 to the Kuban .. Then they drove them out of here with nasty rags.
      1. +5
        15 October 2019 15: 33
        Exactly. All in all, it was necessary not to give Bandera power to Ukraine to strengthen, then the Ukrainians themselves would have changed the power. Ours instead continued to provide them with gas and coal. Well, this is just an Achtung of our foreign policy.
        1. -1
          16 October 2019 15: 18
          Quote: Dangerous
          All in all, it was necessary not to give Bandera power to Ukraine to strengthen

          But do not tell the wise guy how to do this?
          Quote: Dangerous
          then Ukrainians themselves would have changed the power

          Yes of course. Directly flew all the power to change in Kiev. You have absolutely no idea what is happening in Ukraine.
      2. +3
        15 October 2019 18: 44
        Quote: 210ox
        I saw enough of the "foam" that gushed from there in 2014 to the Kuban .. Then they drove them out of here with nasty rags.

        The same song in Rostov!
  4. +3
    15 October 2019 15: 21
    The cat abandoned the kittens - let them "play" as they want.

    And in the Luhansk region, meanwhile, the next crop of apricots rotted away. There was such an article on VO. But in Russian shops there was an "abundance" of pesticide muck brought from "friendly" Turkey.
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 15: 34
      As for pesticides, I don’t agree, just in the southern countries (including Turkey) there are excellent fruits that produce excellent results without any pesticides.
      1. -9
        15 October 2019 15: 49
        excellent harvest

        They still need to "lie down" on the shelves because of the insane prices.
      2. 0
        15 October 2019 19: 29
        But about "southern and without pesticides" is not necessary .... Without this, neither Harvest, nor preserve. I don't mean just pesticides. There is a whole bunch and technology.
    2. +7
      15 October 2019 15: 58
      Quote: lexus
      ....... But in Russian shops there was an "abundance" of pesticide muck brought from "friendly" Turkey.
      We had announcements about some kind of wrong Chinese stone products (apricots, plums, peaches)
      Residents of the republics are not to blame for anything; they must somehow survive. By the way, there are already citizens of the Russian Federation there.
      When it was just the beginning our political scientist said that it was accepted that independence would be gained not immediately, but after the struggle .... So how much time can be passed .....
      I always wanted them to join, they are Russian, Russian-speaking, why the division of the Russian people continues.
      1. -1
        15 October 2019 16: 14
        The article was just about the fact that the Russian market was closed to agricultural products from the people's republics.
      2. +3
        15 October 2019 16: 39
        Quote: Reptiloid
        Residents of the republics are not to blame for anything; they must somehow survive. By the way, there are already citizens of the Russian Federation there.

        It's clear business. And cheap cigarettes help me save my personal "budget".

        Quote: Reptiloid
        I always wanted them to join, they are Russian, Russian-speaking, why the division of the Russian people continues.

        Yes, it's time, I don’t know what we are waiting for.
    3. +4
      15 October 2019 18: 46
      Quote: lexus
      The cat abandoned the kittens - let them "play" as they want.

      And in the Luhansk region, meanwhile, the next crop of apricots rotted away. There was such an article on VO. But in Russian shops there was an "abundance" of pesticide muck brought from "friendly" Turkey.

      Often I see for several years car grain carriers from LDNR at Rostov elevators.
  5. +11
    15 October 2019 15: 46
    It’s not from a good life that people smuggle there.
    A way to survive.
    1. +16
      15 October 2019 16: 05
      Spineless policy of the Russian Federation is to blame. There is nothing for Lugansk to live on, children to feed, old people to starve of hunger and adversity, you need to dress, a communal apartment, children, school supplies, etc. How much does the current higher education mean?
      There are no pensions and no work. The Stone Age lasts six years !!!
      This is surreal hell!
      V.O.V. lasted 4 years.
      An iPhone would not have lasted a couple of days without a pond with carps, a warm pipifax and an antique cabinet bronze under the authorship, handmade, with tiles from a fireplace.
  6. +2
    15 October 2019 16: 08
    There will be a normal state, it will be possible to talk about order.
  7. +4
    15 October 2019 16: 46
    On the border of the Russian Federation with Belarus, the same thing is happening. There are many roads, paths and paths that are not equipped with checkpoints and they do not overgrow. When the border is not closed (I do not call for this), and in one state something is cheaper than in another, smuggling is inevitable. The higher the excise tax on cigarettes in Russia, the more Belarusian cigarettes are sold from under the floor.
    1. +4
      15 October 2019 17: 44
      I can’t understand one thing: what's the point of these prohibitions? Is it because I, say, bring a can of honey to the territory of the Russian Federation, will the Russian economy collapse? Maybe these bans are beneficial to ordinary people? A moot point. As they say, they are not looking for good from good. If the population had high incomes, then perhaps this would be a justifiable measure. And so ... only an additional irritant.
    2. 0
      15 October 2019 18: 55
      Quote: AK1972
      On the border of the Russian Federation with Belarus, the same thing is happening. There are many roads, paths and paths that are not equipped with checkpoints and they do not overgrow. When the border is not closed (I do not call for this), and in one state something is cheaper than in another, smuggling is inevitable. The higher the excise tax on cigarettes in Russia, the more Belarusian cigarettes are sold from under the floor.

      He traveled by car in the 13th year in the summer from Rostov to Belarus, from there to Ukraine and through Mariupol to Rostov.
      There is no border between Russia and Belarus as such, I drove freely. You cannot bring gasoline in cans from Belarus to Ukraine, the difference was then about 13 rubles. I had to "trample" into the tank. Inspection at all borders was formal, everything could be imported, but there was no need.
    3. 0
      15 October 2019 19: 33
      Yes, in the Smolensk region near Red in winter, the tractor trucks pulled through the field .. Like drag drags did and go ahead ...
  8. 0
    15 October 2019 16: 59
    And it will flourish until it comes to a final decision and the border guards are put. Although in Kaliningrad there are border guards, and riot police with the SOBR, and amber is being dragged.
    1. +2
      15 October 2019 17: 57
      The final solution is the reverse transformation of "national" borders into administrative ones?
  9. +3
    15 October 2019 17: 59
    Quote: Victor N
    In Ukraine, everything is getting more expensive.

    We are also getting more expensive! We smoke exclusively contraband cigarettes from LDNR. It’s good that it’s nearby. hi
  10. 0
    15 October 2019 18: 42
    Probably not only apricots, but also weapons carry slowly.
  11. +1
    15 October 2019 18: 48
    Why shouldn’t she flourish? They are independent ... the population does not have money to buy excise taxes and pay taxes for utilities.
  12. 0
    15 October 2019 20: 06
    Are you surprised gentlemen ?! Everywhere where there is a * gray zone * unpleasant affairs instantly begin. It would be strange if no one would try to cash in on the situation.
    I would even be surprised. hi
    And the longer this situation continues, the deeper it gets bogged down in dark affairs. Bo is not particularly accountable to anyone.
    I heard a gum stew sold at prices below market, for example, in the Crimea. Comrade has been in those parts, and not one.
  13. 0
    15 October 2019 20: 30
    in 70 years, when in the USSR, the Asian bazaar traders reliably blocked the border with Iran, they found desperate people in the Pamirs who carried old smugglers (in the past) on mountain trails that showed them old routes (still pre-war) and reappeared in Central Asian bazaars Indian spices from Kashgar, and Japanese watches from Afghanistan
  14. 0
    16 October 2019 07: 28
    All this is the inescapable grimaces of war, especially the civil war.

    Of course, fighting is very, very bad. But...
    You can’t blame everything on the war. Most likely, people do not have a decent job or a salary to live with dignity. People are forced to take risks, including their own lives, in order to somehow make ends meet.
    I think that if people are given a normal job and a salary, then 80 percent of smugglers will "tie up" with this dangerous craft. Of course, some will remain, but most likely they will be people of a certain warehouse.
  15. 0
    16 October 2019 08: 12
    What, right? In the unrecognized and partially blocked ex. USSR formations smuggling blooms? Yes, this can not be! It’s never been like that, and here it is again!
  16. 0
    16 October 2019 14: 18
    Yes! This is and has been at all times, after the collapse of the Union! This means not only professional "border dealers", but also those who are not smugglers, but who live off the fact that they drag gasoline, equipment and so on from Russia.
    That's just, this is not quite analytics, but most likely a private opinion.
  17. -1
    20 October 2019 16: 46
    It is not surprising why the inhabitants of LDNR so want to be part of Russia - to get from the past right into the future, into civilization. But they need to explain that they need to work in order to be like normal people. And they just want their paradise to come, without any effort on their part. Freeloaders and liars - no one likes. Donbass said that he feeds the whole of Ukraine, and as it turned out, they can’t even feed themselves.

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