Complexes "Shell-S1" hit the fly "Typhoons" version of electronic warfare. A new threat or utopia from BAE Systems?

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Extremely serious food for thought was provided to Russian and foreign expert circles and knowledgeable observers by a non-interesting demonstration video published on Youtube 7 on October 2019 as part of the DSEI-2019 international exhibition of defense products in London. This video, announced by Paul Smith, a test pilot at BAE Systems Corporation, illustrates the ability of the Typhoon Tranche 1 multi-functional fighter, in the modification of electronic warfare, to overcome anti-aircraft / anti-missile "barriers" erected by the Pantsir-SXNUM anti-aircraft missile and artillery systems.





The potential for towed false targets by Ariel and BriteCloud 55 microwave transmitters is large, but not unlimited


In particular, starting from one of the episodes featured in this video, we can conclude that only towed false targets-emitters of X / Ku-band radio waves of the Ariel type from Marconi Defense Systms, as well as those being shot “Brite Cloud 55” interference microwave transmitters equipped with individual modules for electronic reconnaissance and frequency analysis of active radar homing heads of enemy interceptors will be enough to effectively counter the system conducting ZRPK "Carapace-S1". In reality, the above conclusion hardly corresponds to the real state of affairs. Why?

The aforementioned electronic countermeasures are highly effective in suppressing only such radar tools as airborne radars of tactical aircraft aviation and SAM radars (based on obsolete slotted antenna arrays, Cassegrain antennas, as well as passive phased antenna arrays) and active radar seekers based on slotted antenna arrays (ALB). In addition, multifunctional radars, radar detectors and promising homing heads based on multi-element active phased arrays with transceiver modules represented by gallium nitride substrates or low-temperature co-fired ceramics are capable of selecting "Typhoons" against the background of BriteCloud interfering microwave transmitters 55 "and towed false targets" Ariel ", equipped with multi-band microwave emitters centimeter range.

This possibility is realized by equipping several hundreds of transceiver modules with individual low-noise microwave transistors / amplifiers and attenuators, which ultimately ensure the formation of “dips” in the radar pattern in the sectors of radio-electronic interference sources. It is with such AFAR-radar detection and guidance that the perspective Pantsir-SM anti-aircraft missile-gun systems will be equipped. As regards counteraction to the standard 96K6 Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system, this task is unlikely to be accomplished even if the Typhoons pilots use the above electronic warfare equipment used in the BAE Systems advertising video.

The fact is that the Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile and artillery systems have a full-fledged radio command guidance system for the 57E6Е anti-aircraft guided missiles not only according to radar data with the passive 1RS2-1Е Helmet headlamp, which may well suffer a radio fiasco in fiasco towed false targets "Ariel" and microwave transmitters "BriteCloud 55", but also on the target designation of the attached multispectral optical-electronic sighting system 10ES1-E, operating in the TV and medium-wave infrared wavelengths, the latter from It is distinguished by its ability to detect and “capture” low-contrast targets even when using optoelectronic interference and infrared traps. It is logical to assume that the next colorful and technical PR video clip from the advertising department of “BAE Systems” is simply the fruit of Russophobic fantasies of the British military-technical establishment.
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  1. +10
    October 11 2019
    Where and when did Ariel "collide" with "Shell-C1"?
    1. +8
      October 11 2019
      In the article in black and white - "... is simply the fruit of the Russophobic fantasies of the British military-technical establishment." Those. in the inflamed brain of the Naglov Saxons affected by Russophobic schizophrenia. wassat
      1. +1
        October 12 2019
        Quote: Hammer
        is simply a figment of the Russophobic fantasies of the British military-technical establishment. "
        What does Russophobia of the manufacturer have to do with it, if he tries to sell the device by playing on the Russophobia of the consumer.
    2. +13
      October 11 2019
      Well, Damantsev says:
      In this video clip, announced by BAE Systems test pilot Paul Smith, illustrates the ability of the Typhoon Tranche 1 multi-functional fighter in electronic warfare modification to overcome anti-aircraft / anti-missile "barriers" erected by the Pantsir-C1 anti-aircraft missile and artillery systems.
      Those. drew a picture of how they "heroically" overcome the air defense of a potential enemy ... And they also laughed when Putin showed "cartoons". With the same success, you can watch the Ukrainian cartoon about their super-duper tank.
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  2. +20
    October 11 2019
    The accented attention of the West on counteracting Russian developments speaks of only one thing, for them, our armament and rearmament became a pain in the ass! Remove the splinter until it works, it remains to do lotions.
    1. +1
      October 11 2019
      I cannot say how matters stand with air defense and missile defense systems, but as for Russian small arms, so far new models are a "pain in the ass" only for operators inside the country.
      Temporarily, I hope.
  3. +16
    October 11 2019
    ZRPK "Shell-C1" is a system of CLOSE action. It is still necessary to fly to it through layered air defense.
    It is logical to assume that the next colorful and technical PR-video from the advertising department of “BAE Systems” is simply the fruit of Russophobic fantasies of the British military-technical establishment.

    It turns out that E. Damantsev has sound thoughts. drinks
    1. KCA
      +3
      October 11 2019
      Fly and get into the coverage area of ​​the OLS "Pantsyr"
      1. +3
        October 11 2019
        Quote: KCA
        Fly and get into the coverage area of ​​the OLS "Pantsyr"

        Uh-huh. The shells also receive data from other echelons, and if such a miraculous miracle happens and something flies, not only Shells and Torah will wait with open arms for these targets, but also MANPADS calculations and, in general, the whole village with Berdanks. I can hardly imagine in the modern scenario the need to "go into full-length attack on horseback" and bomb the air defense positions with ordinary cast iron. Accidental encounter Tornado vs. a lonely Carapace is highly unlikely. They are modestly silent about the S-300/400 echelons. In short, BAE's "engine of commerce" and nothing else.
  4. +6
    October 11 2019
    One thing you need to remember to everyone .... when it comes to the full use of aviation, electronic warfare and air defense .... EVERYTHING starts to burn!
    For some small, local conflicts ... it all depends on what and how many people have it! I doubt that serious military will be distributing new, secret equipment to the right and to the left!
  5. +3
    October 11 2019
    It is logical to assume that the next colorful and technical PR-video from the advertising department of “BAE Systems” is simply the fruit of Russophobic fantasies of the British military-technical establishment.
    Do not be fooled, do not sell. The advertisement is engine of the trade.
  6. +6
    October 11 2019
    "Will be equipped." Everything in the future tense

    "Russophobic fantasies". It is strange to see a text in the style of the Pravda newspaper in the analysis of weapons.

    Or is it a tribute to the patriots who still do not understand anything in active and passive antennas?
    1. -7
      October 11 2019
      But domestic clown-skakuasy understood everything at once.
  7. +2
    October 11 2019
    Complexes "Shell-S1" hit the fly "Typhoons" version of electronic warfare. A new threat or utopia from BAE Systems?

    Konstantin Tszyu used to say:
  8. +2
    October 11 2019
    Until the Typhoon reaches the Shell, it has to fly another 350 miles under the sight of the S-400 and others like it.
    The "Pantsir" will not stand alone in the field like a poplar on Plyushchikha, apparently only in small Britain they do this. lol
    1. +2
      October 11 2019
      According to the manual on air defense. Air defense should be as effective and deeply echeloned as possible. You need to get to the Shell))). Or is this a hint of Syria))). There are still Needles, Arrows, Beeches, Tuna, Wasp, Shilka, Tor ....
    2. +1
      October 11 2019
      But he was in Syria. Or it seemed to me? Or maybe the video is fake?
      1. 0
        October 11 2019
        Russia is not Syria, but the hypothetical World War III is not Syrian.
      2. +1
        October 11 2019
        But he was in Syria. Or it seemed to me? Or maybe the video is fake?

        Was an air defense system built in Syria?
    3. 0
      October 11 2019
      Alas, the S-400 PFAR ...
      1. 0
        October 11 2019
        bars1, tell me, does the S-500 already have ROFAR or not?
      2. 0
        October 12 2019
        fool on the English wiki for some reason they think that ALL afar and he is there funnily different ranges
  9. -3
    October 11 2019
    The request to administrators to add the filter from articles of E. Damantsev
    1. +1
      October 11 2019
      I support).
  10. +3
    October 11 2019
    I remember in the West Military District they wrote that Libya Typhoons without illumination from another plane could not strike, and here is such a "breakthrough").
    Yes, I remembered the story of 10 years ago when in Top Gear Tafun was advertised and called the most advanced aircraft).
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  12. 0
    October 11 2019
    and what shell, will there be one or something in the field? and C300 / 400/500 / Buki and Torah type already overcome ?? lol
  13. 0
    October 11 2019
    The fact is that the Pantsir-C1 anti-aircraft missile and artillery systems have a full-fledged radio command guidance system ...... and for the designation of the attached multispectral optoelectronic sighting system 10ES1-Eoperating in the TV and mid-wave infrared wavelengths, the latter being distinguished by the ability to detect and “capture” low-contrast targets even when using optoelectronic interference and infrared traps.


    range of work to support this sighting system tell me please
  14. 0
    October 11 2019
    Why are NATO members scaring us with their gang? We have our own gang! Still need to see who "gop-stop" will turn out faster! One of the ways to "solve the problem" is, indeed, the use of optoelectronic stations (OES)
    with advanced features! The ECO should be lifted on "masts", copters ... there should be several television cameras (thermal imagers) combined with laser rangefinders ... using high-performance computers that create synthesized "signature-apertures"! There was a time when there was a lot of talk about laser locators (lidars) ... it is clear that something did not grow together! Although, I still do not see any reasons that impede the use of laser locators ... Let, not as a main means, but in combination with others ... maybe with radar means ... More widespread use of sights with passive radar GOS ...
  15. 0
    October 11 2019
    TR-3B is invisible to all radars. The military knows this. But they are modestly silent. Are they ashamed?
  16. 0
    October 11 2019
    Excellence will only be visible in real combat. Now these are wet dreams.
  17. -4
    October 11 2019
    Exactly such AFAR-radar for detection and guidance will be equipped with the promising anti-aircraft missile-cannon systems “Pantsir-SM”

    It is not clear from all the available photos which SOC is on the Pantsir-SM. But the return of a single emitter to the tracking station prompts bad thoughts.
  18. 0
    October 12 2019
    After the shame that befell the American means of air defense, this is just another and not the last attempt to obstruct or raise doubt about the quality characteristics of weapons manufactured in Russia.
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  20. -1
    October 12 2019
    Now it is necessary for our gunsmiths fu35 in the sight to draw
  21. 0
    October 12 2019
    Well, I have an offer to them !!! Let them provide a video of the flight over the Pantsir-1C without any consequences !!! But just not like the Israeli ones, where the "switched off" complexes were destroyed ...
  22. 0
    October 12 2019
    They didn’t quite rightly choose the victim. The carapace after the C400 is the most advertised system. Here and PR on its background. Rather, it is the enemy of Thor, Buk, and even that, old versions with slot antennas.
  23. +1
    October 12 2019
    It was not the Shell that hit the fly of the Typhoon, but the Typhoon hit the fly of the Shell.
    1. +1
      October 12 2019
      "The above means of electronic countermeasures have a high efficiency of suppressing only such radar means as airborne radars of tactical aircraft and illumination radars of air defense systems (based on outdated slot antenna arrays, Cassegrain antennas, as well as passive phased antenna arrays) and active radar seeker based on slot antennas In addition, multifunctional radars, radar detectors and promising homing heads based on multielement active phased array devices with transmitting and receiving modules represented by gallium nitride substrates or low-temperature co-fired ceramics are quite capable of selecting Typhoons against the background of actively used jamming Microwave transmitters "BriteCloud 55" and towed false targets "Ariel" equipped with multi-band microwave transmitters of centimeter range ".
      There are a lot of clever words, but if you understand this topic, then this is complete nonsense.
  24. 0
    October 12 2019
    fool taschemta Pantsir has a DECimeter surveyor for personal use, which is poorly connected to small-sized simulators and microwave ovens, while for the entire duration of the application it’s not so conventional and its own missiles for all 20km work very well, the wide-angle radar already in the millimeter range does not sleep OLS is not an IR nor a centimeter radar, sobsna work and all other means outside the shell. Moreover, the air defense shell is object-oriented and in order to get under it, first it’s necessary to fly past the Iskander, then Su35, then S300, then Mig29, and then Velkam
    1. 0
      October 14 2019
      How does the "Iskander" affect the flight past it, in more detail?
      1. 0
        October 14 2019
        drinks dude) and think of a tourist committee? because the mordor with cartoons of iskanders and daggers there with the FIRST blow aggressively will scatter all these bases of all kinds of f22 across the seas, about the same way f35 will never reach c200 in Iran; shorter rocket flying 21 range aircraft and slamming the entire base at once.
  25. 0
    October 13 2019
    Of the entire text, the only sensible moment is the last paragraph at the end of the article. The rest is a re-post of the abstruse technical characteristics of two types of weapons in complete delirium.
  26. +1
    October 15 2019
    "the fruit of Russophobic fantasies" - well, who would doubt it.
  27. 0
    October 17 2019
    "is simply the fruit of Russophobic fantasies" - tell Israel this!

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