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The breeding of forces in the Donbass is again postponed: APU are fighting with APU

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In Kiev-controlled territory of Donbass, in the area of ​​the demarcation line, a clash occurred between units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The cause of the battle was the disobedience to the orders of one of the units of the Ukrainian army and the refusal to leave positions due to the separation of forces. It is reported by the NM DPR with reference to intelligence data.


The breeding of forces in the Donbass is again postponed: APU are fighting with APU


According to available information, the Ukrainian command once again tried to withdraw units at the force-separation station, but military personnel of the 35 Marine Brigade refused to obey the order, most of which adhere to "extremely radical nationalist views." The team refused to leave their positions, saying that this was a "betrayal of the interests of the country" and "surrender of Ukrainian land to the enemy."

Today, the Ukrainian command made another attempt to fulfill its part of the agreements and withdraw subordinate units at the site of the separation of forces and assets No. 3 "Bogdanovka-Petrovsky. The Marines of the 35th brigade refused to obey the order and leave the position

- said in a statement.

Negotiations between the command of the Vostok operational-tactical group and representatives of nationalists led to nothing, after which the forces of the 35th brigade were sent forces of the 3th separate special forces regiment of the Special Forces of the Armed Forces, with the task of forcing the brigade to fulfill the order. In response, the nationalists opened fire from the rifle weapons, An anti-tank missile launch was seen.

The disobedience of the soldiers of the 35th brigade to the command orders was announced as early as 7 of October, when they first ignored the order to withdraw to reserve positions. Then, in the command of the CAB, it was decided to replace the soldiers of the 35th brigade with more loyal fighters of the 128th mountain assault brigade from Transcarpathia, whose command was promised promotion on the career ladder and rewards if all wards were followed by all orders.

Absolutely the same situation occurs in the breeding area near Zolotoy, where nationalists also broke through to the position of the Armed Forces and are not going to leave it.

It should be noted that most likely, there will not be a withdrawal of forces in the Donbas for a long time, as the current government is afraid to touch the radicals who threatened it with a new Maidan.
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  1. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 16: 13
    +31
    I like it better. Let Natsik kill their own - and the air is cleaner, and the contracting ability of individual military units is increased.
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 10 October 2019 16: 35
      +21
      Eh ... the ammunition would throw them what feel fellow
      In general, the news is Tin! Who controls these "pseudo-fighters" in their hands - Real weapons! request
      It’s just that Ukraine is turning into Somalia.
      1. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 16: 43
        +8
        Who controls these "pseudo-fighters"

        Remember, screams on the Maidan - we are here power.
        Remember the screams will pile up - we are the power here.
        Like parallels. It means that one "owner" controls them.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 10 October 2019 16: 52
          +4
          Nut ... in your opinion, Trump gave the order to the Ukrainians - to destroy themselves?
          Surprisingly ... if he would gladly send both of them, to check the fortress of the Russian border. Only there (in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And the National Guard) there are no fools (so frostbite) to check in your own skin what it means to fight the Russian Army and Navy!
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 17: 00
            +4
            It's somehow difficult for you. You asked the question - who controls these fighters, right? Since you wrote "pseudo-fighters", I concluded that we are talking about stoned Nazis. I tried to answer you who controls them.
            But what does Trump have to do with it? Trump does not issue orders directly. He does not give them away at all. He expresses concern about this or that issue. Ukronatsiki are sponsored and controlled through intelligence and political circles of the United States and Canada themselves, it is clear that with Trump's "approval", but not under his personal control. He can be reported on this or that, asked to endorse this or that paper (as an option, the sale of weapons to Ukraine), but Trump is not obliged to understand all the intricacies of control and management of ukronatsiks.
        2. yehat
          yehat 10 October 2019 17: 01
          +4
          You won’t believe it, but in Petrograd in 1905 and in 1917 the same thing sounded
          some kind of immortal master.
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 17: 03
            +2
            but in petrograd in 1905 and in 1917 the same thing sounded
            some kind of immortal master.

            You will be surprised, but yes ... the owner is the same, because the goals are the same.
            1. yehat
              yehat 10 October 2019 17: 10
              +2
              nothing like this
              study history. the slogan "we are power here" did not appear yesterday and it was not invented in Ukraine.
              and he sounded loudly in perestroika, in lines with coupons.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 10 October 2019 17: 39
                -3
                Quote: yehat
                and he sounded loudly in perestroika, in lines with coupons.

                And how did it end?
                1. yehat
                  yehat 10 October 2019 17: 43
                  +2
                  always ends the same way - riots and no use.
                  it doesn't matter who wins - "we are power here" or "we are power", the result is only senseless destruction, because butting who is in charge does not solve a single issue.
            2. bk316
              bk316 10 October 2019 17: 23
              +2
              I don’t know who the boss is, but what is happening is expected and joyful ....
              and in general, if 404 were a state without a prefix, then the Natsik would have come to an end ...
            3. Doliva63
              Doliva63 10 October 2019 18: 03
              0
              Quote: Honest Citizen
              but in petrograd in 1905 and in 1917 the same thing sounded
              some kind of immortal master.

              You will be surprised, but yes ... the owner is the same, because the goals are the same.

              And which ones?
          2. Grits
            Grits 11 October 2019 01: 31
            0
            Quote: yehat
            You won’t believe it, but in Petrograd in 1905 and in 1917 the same thing sounded
            some kind of immortal master.

            He just lived in London then. And then he got overseas. Away from sin
        3. Ushly_bashkort
          Ushly_bashkort 10 October 2019 19: 17
          +1
          Yes, they do not have a master in their opinion, they are stupidly stubbornly opposed by nationalism and believe in their rightfulness, but those who direct the whole movement already believe in the master, but this is not an overseas master, but stupid money. Nobody canceled the Seljuk consciousness, the Papuans will pay, they will be faithful to them. Bulk from the same public, only not nationalism puts at the forefront.
      2. Ural resident
        Ural resident 10 October 2019 16: 45
        +7
        They are not only controlled, but also financed. You will not be saturated with ideas. Full security + sn.
        1. Honest Citizen
          Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 16: 48
          -2
          Full security + sn.

          Well it goes without saying.
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 18: 05
            -1
            Anglo-Saxons and Yankees
        2. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 10 October 2019 17: 34
          +3
          Completeness, gentlemen, have mercy! Nothing changes on this rich land, inherited by the poor minds of the villagers! Remember how successfully the Ataman Makhno beat the soldiers of Hetman Skoropadsky, who were bought for German money, and then the "soldiers" of Petliura, who were bought in bulk at a discount by the same Germans. yes Pobratymy, after all, but there’s how .... Doesn’t it remind you of the present? So they always had karma like that. As long as someone doesn’t pile on the head seriously, they will be mutated with each other, protokakly, however! yes
      3. cormorant
        cormorant 11 October 2019 02: 26
        0
        for the first time they ignored the order to withdraw to reserve positions.
        Heroes need to be reminded of what the Ilovaysky boiler is and what happens to the APU there.
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 October 2019 16: 53
      +2
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      I like it better. Let Natsik kill their own - and the air is cleaner, and the contracting ability of individual military units is increased.

      Yes, I can’t say goodbye to Ragul in the coming years from the grateful population of Ukraine! bully
      1. ltc35
        ltc35 10 October 2019 17: 15
        +3
        Just the same, nothing good will happen in the coming years. Now, in fact, the nationalists rule the ball and there is no reason to expect resistance from a healthy part of society. Only a change of generation, something can do.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 10 October 2019 19: 24
          +4
          Quote: ltc35
          Only a change of generation, something can do.

          hi
          The next generation of Ruins will be more "potty" and more Russophobic than the current one. It was not for nothing that the "farions" from pink nails taught them to eat cakes in the form of infants of Muscovites and drink juices called "blood of the damned separatist." There is nothing you can fix these people except "coolies".
    3. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 10 October 2019 17: 08
      +4
      Yes, but it smells like a total civil war in Ukraine and ours will probably have to intervene then.
      1. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 17: 10
        0
        ours then will probably have to intervene.

        Only under the auspices of the UN, such as peacekeepers, blue helmets and so on. And no other way.
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 October 2019 17: 16
          +5
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          Only under the auspices of the UN, such as peacekeepers, blue helmets and so on. And no other way.

          We can’t figure it out without them ?! Can immediately introduce the contingent of NATO? !!
          1. Honest Citizen
            Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 17: 21
            -13
            We can’t figure it out without them ?! Can immediately introduce the contingent of NATO? !!

            Have you tried to think with your head?
            So we solve the problem. Given: A total civil war has begun in Ukraine. The Russian Federation, without UN sanction, introduces its troops to prevent genocide and so on. Question: guess from three times WHO will be appointed guilty for "inciting war" for their own selfish purposes, violation of international law and an aggressive war.
            So, dear lumberjack, sometimes you need to think with your head, and not just watch TV in it and listen to Kiselyov’s
            1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
              GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 October 2019 17: 24
              +1
              Have you tried to think with your head?
              So we solve the problem. Given: A total civil war has begun in Ukraine. The Russian Federation, without UN sanction, introduces its troops to prevent genocide and so on. Question: guess from three times WHO will be appointed guilty for "inciting war" for their own selfish purposes, violation of international law and an aggressive war.
              So, dear lumberjack, sometimes you need to think with your head, and not just watch TV in it and listen to Kiselyov’s

              It can just give money and specialists, etc. etc., people who do everything themselves as we need to do Russian? !!! hi
              1. Honest Citizen
                Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 17: 26
                -2
                It can just give money and specialists, etc. etc., people who do everything themselves as we need to do Russian? !!!

                I’m not Putin to make such decisions, not Shoigu, not Lavrov and Patrushev to give such advice.
            2. Doliva63
              Doliva63 10 October 2019 18: 17
              +1
              Quote: Honest Citizen
              We can’t figure it out without them ?! Can immediately introduce the contingent of NATO? !!

              Have you tried to think with your head?
              So we solve the problem. Given: A total civil war has begun in Ukraine. The Russian Federation, without UN sanction, introduces its troops to prevent genocide and so on. Question: guess from three times WHO will be appointed guilty for "inciting war" for their own selfish purposes, violation of international law and an aggressive war.
              So, dear lumberjack, sometimes you need to think with your head, and not just watch TV in it and listen to Kiselyov’s

              But you don’t even pull a woodcutter if you don’t understand - to return Ukraine and Belarus to the bosom of Russia, which means that then we don’t care about sanctions, "international law" and the whole UN, taken together. This is what they are afraid of, that is why they support the "self-identity" of fictitious peoples and their pseudo-states.
              1. Honest Citizen
                Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 18: 22
                -2
                But you don’t even pull a woodcutter if you don’t understand - to return Ukraine and Belarus to the bosom of Russia, which means that then we don’t care about sanctions, "international law" and the whole UN, taken together.

                "Well, take an army and attack" (c) C / f "Primordial Rus", 2nd series
                Who's stopping you? Then you will not care about anything: the sanctions, the "international law" on the UN.
                You do not even find it difficult to bring any ideology, no idea under the "return to the fold".
                Well, everything is clear with you, you do not care.
                Share how to become SUCH a nigga: do you need to put a saucepan or a foil hat on your head? Or gallop from morning to evening shouting: "Belarus and Ukraine are with you again, Russia"?
                1. Zliy_mod
                  Zliy_mod 10 October 2019 22: 22
                  0
                  No guys from Russia, you’d better wait for the peacekeepers, let them go in, plow off a buffer zone in the Donbass and remove the sanctions from you.
        2. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 10 October 2019 21: 10
          +1
          Here, the smell of yet another misfortune in Russia is now also full of Ukrainians, but how will they also begin to sort things out. I remember very well how in 2014, even far abroad, after the return of Crimea to Russia in families in which one was Russian, the other Ukrainian, and even in purely Ukrainian families, welding started up until the divorce. I was in Argentina then, there are a lot of Ukrainians there, much more than Russians.
        3. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 11 October 2019 01: 53
          0
          This is how our leadership will decide.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 11 October 2019 00: 20
        +3
        Quote: Chaldon48
        it smells of a total civil war in Ukraine

        Well, and, as usual, intervention in one form or another. Exactly a hundred years ago everything was already laughing Only the current Ukrop leaders are not like those old heroes and villains - so, pitiful "analogs". negative Such a person is definitely not there today:
    4. Awaz
      Awaz 10 October 2019 19: 19
      +2
      Of course, they can start fighting among themselves, but everything that is happening now is all a little different. Donetsk authorities, as it were, are trying to pass off wishful thinking. All these descendants of Bandera, they know how to fight only with the civilian population. And the fact that the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will not fight with them, they know and therefore behave arrogantly and unceremoniously. Probably on both sides shot into the air and dispersed. And if the Armed Forces of Ukraine wanted to fulfill all the obligations entrusted to them in accordance with the agreements and would like to end the massacre, they would have long ago disarmed and dispersed and put the Natsiks in the right position. Ukrainian warriors and their command have never fulfilled a single point of any agreements, except when they were driven into a boiler and they simply had nowhere to go. And this is not from what the Natsiks do not want, this is for a completely different reason.
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 10 October 2019 21: 35
      +1
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      I like it better. Let Natsik kill their own - and the air is cleaner

      Who will kill? Do not tell my slippers. Zeliboba will change his clothes tomorrow as in a circus and will threaten to brand separs for disrupting the withdrawal of troops.
  2. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 10 October 2019 16: 15
    0
    APU are fighting with the APU

    In general, nothing has changed. They cut their own. Another thing is that it is in this situation that the number of stubborn Natsiks will slightly decrease.
    But anyway, sorry for the gene pool.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 10 October 2019 16: 20
      +3
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      But anyway, sorry for the gene pool.

      But I don’t feel sorry for the gene pool of the 35th brigade .. they need to be destroyed, I think that their ancestors served the Nazis zealously ..
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 10 October 2019 17: 07
        +3
        However, it is strange where the Natsiks came from in the Marine Corps Brigade formed in the Odessa region .. There, in theory, there should be a Russian-speaking contingent ... no, of course, they could have brought some "patriots" to this brigade.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 10 October 2019 19: 33
          +1
          Quote: alexmach
          However, it is strange where Natsik came from in the Marine Corps brigade formed in the Odessa region.

          hi
          FORMED. Formed from whom? - from the "pine forest" from the territory of the entire Ruins, and hence the zapadentsev, and different colors of "raguli", and zombie "box".
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 10 October 2019 21: 36
            +2
            FORMED. Formed from whom?

            Well, yes .. 2018 year. I just somehow thought of the Marines as an elite and professional military, and even from normal regions. Apparently wrong.
      2. Antares
        Antares 10 October 2019 21: 27
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        But I don’t feel sorry for the gene pool of the 35th brigade .. they need to be destroyed, I think that their ancestors served the Nazis zealously ..

        absolutely!
        First, we believe all the news from the war (especially if we like the party) and then we begin to propose measures.
        A check? Or do gentlemen believe the word?
        Well, where did the brigade from Odessa region have radical nationalists? And how are the Marines not sitting in the Azov direction?
        Here are the most stubborn ones that need to be destroyed .. the entire brigade of the Marine Corps No. 35 must be eliminated .. It’s not at all possible for me to understand how frostbitten they are, they are ready to fight among themselves for the right to kill Russians ..

        of course we are all here "fighting for the right to kill Russians"
        The team recruited from the Odessa region. And here we have long killed all the Russians - here we are still eager to find and kill ... No.

        we are all "frostbitten ukrofashists" request ...
        You most importantly believe the news on one side of the front. There will never be doubt. Picture what you need.
        It is sad when they blindly believe everything they write, without checking, trusting blindly. For those who repeatedly wrote specially disu to create the necessary background.
        And come to the point of calling to kill Odessa residents because they are "ukrofashists and shoot for the right to kill Russians" ...
        this is the slogan!
  3. Svarog
    Svarog 10 October 2019 16: 17
    +6
    The reason for the battle was the disobedience to the orders of one of the units of the Ukrainian army and the refusal to leave positions due to the separation of forces

    Here are the most stubborn ones that need to be destroyed .. the entire brigade of the Marine Corps No. 35 must be eliminated .. It’s not at all possible for me to understand how frostbitten they are, they are ready to fight among themselves for the right to kill Russians ..
  4. svp67
    svp67 10 October 2019 16: 19
    +11
    And who, after all this, will argue that there is no civil war in Ukraine?
    1. Antares
      Antares 10 October 2019 21: 27
      -1
      Quote: svp67
      And who, after all this, will argue that there is no civil war in Ukraine?

      I am .
      Check the news source, check the news content, check the event and the participants.
      Discover a lot of new ..
  5. gcn
    gcn 10 October 2019 16: 20
    -11
    https://topwar.ru/user/%D0%A7%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9+%D0%93%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B6%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD/Вы не чем не отличаетесь от тех же нациков. Нравится ему за клавой людишек убивать.Аборт своего народа.Иди и смотри!
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 10 October 2019 16: 27
      +6
      what to watch? 99 percent of those who write and read have the same opinion. Natsik let them cut each other. less work for residents of Donbass.
      1. gcn
        gcn 10 October 2019 16: 35
        -12
        Cut the little people, agree wrong, otherwise you can turn into the same cattle. 99 percent of the heads who wrote the chicken here didn’t chop off the head and in general didn’t execute orders since the plane was not only legs but the needles are not the same.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 October 2019 17: 27
          +1
          But am I saying something about people?) It's Natsik and they don’t give a damn. kill each other and okay.
    2. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 16: 38
      +2
      You are no different from the same Natsik.

      But if you think about it, you know that you are right. I’m no different. Because I believe that everyone has the right to speak the language that his ancestors spoke. Because I believe that forcibly imposing alien customs is a sin. Because I believe that you can and should fight for your people. For their children, for their parents, for their homeland.
      And if we clearly draw the line in consciousness, then my parents, who profess the same principles that I outlined a little above, and from which they got to me, my children, who I would like to inherit the same principles from me - much closer to me. And if I want to live the way I live, speak the language I speak, and they begin to come to me and tell me how to live, whom to read, pour guano into the ears of my children - I have no choice but to become a "Natsik". And when those who come to my house, and begin to consider themselves the master there - dies, then yes, I am a nazik. When the same "owners" die in batches - yes, I am a nazik.
      But not genetic garbage, unlike
      1. gcn
        gcn 10 October 2019 17: 28
        0
        They won over with views. But there is such a shitty word that you will protect only your children, only your relatives, you will step over everything if it justifies your actions (Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Belsen, Sobibor ............. ..). After all, there they served with similar views. And again, you are sure that in case of war rush to the meat grinder for the sake of your children for the sake of your mother’s wife ... but not to protect the children of mothers you’re strangers. You look like a rookie will come to the army of all grandfathers on rags I’ll fight myself I’ll agree silly. Motherland what is this landmark of my land.
        1. Honest Citizen
          Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 17: 43
          -1
          all if it will justify your actions (Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Belsen, Sobibor ...............)

          You haven’t messed up anything? Those who organized Auschwitz, Buchenwald and others - are we come to their land? This WE carried the ideology of fascism? Is this WE raving about world domination?
          This, too, probably WE set up the Holocaust, destroyed gypsies, burned people alive in villages?
          You look like a rookie coming to the army of all grandfathers on rags

          And you look like a liberal with a new training manual, trying to subtly troll about what you have no idea at all.
          Homeland what is this landmark my land.

          Hmm, no words ...
          1. gcn
            gcn 10 October 2019 18: 10
            -3
            Words training manual. The last time I read a training manual or tactically about the technical characteristics of an AK-74m Kalashnikov assault rifle was 15 years ago. Liberalists didn’t roll a defensive reaction. Besides, I served in Osn as a military man and I love not to write and read stories like you They live and are at war
            1. Honest Citizen
              Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 18: 17
              -1
              In addition to serving in Osn, I’m also fighting and I don’t like to write a story but to read people like you

              Yes, no matter how you get involved with someone thread in the discussion - everyone served in the landing / reconnaissance / FSB / gru. We often have no such impression.
              And all, as one, are historians.
              So, historian, can you tell us about the three types of colonization? Will you also tell about the concentration camps that you so "successfully" entered into your comments?
              Are you trying to judge by yourself, in particular, about me - are you also a psychologist mixed up with a seer?
              Is there too much "positive" in one person? You didn’t even indicate your name, so why should we, the sire and the poor, be equal with you, or, God forbid, refute your "highest" opinion.
              Only, as Ostap Bender said to old man Panikovsky: "You are undoubtedly an enemy of society. Only if you, as a true gentleman, have to write on the cuff, you will have to write with chalk. Is it because they are black with dirt?" (c) Something like that.
              1. gcn
                gcn 10 October 2019 18: 26
                0
                And believe me, sometimes they slip through and they served and shot a little
                1. gcn
                  gcn 10 October 2019 18: 38
                  0
                  One of them proved to me five years ago that the AK-74m does not spit through 2 stores of intensive shooting (at dusk, it can be clearly seen at night) and how people like us should treat people who are at war and at war. They are creeping up and cutting again. Well, and a little bit others trust it
  6. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 10 October 2019 16: 20
    +3
    The main thing is not to bother them.
  7. Kontrik
    Kontrik 10 October 2019 16: 22
    +7
    I already wrote something like that .. Now Natsik is from the western outskirts of Hero, and if the war ends .. Who will they be swineherds in the Carpathians or sweep the streets in Poland .. They will stand to their deaths for their privileges, They will not be driven to the Carpathians and Lviv .. etc. You’ll have to work there ..
    You need to water them and that's it!
  8. Andrea
    Andrea 10 October 2019 16: 22
    +5
    That is why Ukraine will never be a state, for the same reason it never became one. And for this, Catherine plagued Sich for a vile and unpredictable policy.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2019 17: 09
      0
      Quote: Andrea
      And for this, Catherine plagued Sich for a vile and unpredictable policy.

      But 13 years later, Potemkin Prince Tauride organized them into the Black Sea Cossacks, then into the Kuban Cossacks, settling them on the "Wild Field" on the right bank of the Kuban. And under the imperious hand of Empress Catherine the Great, they began to serve as a reference service for the protection of the southern borders of the Empire ..
  9. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 10 October 2019 16: 25
    +4
    Yeah. this is the army. everyone's envy. orders, but what for they are needed ?!))) we ourselves decide when to leave when not to leave) freaking circus)))
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2019 16: 57
      0
      Quote: carstorm 11
      Yeah. this is the army. everyone's envy. orders, but what for they are needed?

      Makhnovism or partisanism, but not the army.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 10 October 2019 18: 47
      -1
      They still have "marines" like that, in normal countries they are the elite, and here is a nasty rag from the gateway.
  10. Titus
    Titus 10 October 2019 16: 26
    +2
    Yeah, moonshine was buried drunk and can not be found. Now they will be covered with slogans until they find it.
  11. barsuk
    barsuk 10 October 2019 16: 40
    +1
    Campaign world is canceled. Sorry.
    1. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 10 October 2019 16: 50
      -1
      So the official Kiev does not need peace. Because with the peaceful development of the plot, people will "ask" - where are the economic successes?
      They will also ask for the war - but here, as always, there is already an excuse: Russia is so aggressive that it doesn’t want peace. They really don’t need it.
  12. Rusj
    Rusj 10 October 2019 16: 50
    +1
    a joke, like a Russian made a cat eat mustard: he smeared it with an ass, and when the cat howled and began to lick his ass, he said: “See? Voluntarily and with a song! ” that's what Russia is doing with Ukraine! We are from under-state to become at least something!
  13. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 October 2019 16: 55
    +1
    According to available information, the Ukrainian command once again attempted to withdraw units at the force-separation station, but military personnel of the 35 Marine Corps refused to comply with the order
    What a problem, to block the exits, cordon off, not to supply food and cartridges, in a week "hands up the hill".
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  15. Klingon
    Klingon 10 October 2019 17: 03
    0
    for a long time on the outskirts will have to separate the husband from the cutlets, because a decent amount of flies
    1. Grits
      Grits 11 October 2019 01: 48
      0
      Quote: Klingon
      for a long time on the outskirts will have to separate the husband from the cutlets, because a decent amount of flies

      And the cutlets are already gobbled up
  16. shinobi
    shinobi 10 October 2019 17: 04
    +3
    Well, it was predictable. As a result, all breeding will end in a thunder. Then Natsik will move to the breeding zone, get in the teeth and everything will return to its previous borders.
    PS: Donbass has no resources for further advancement, Bandera is afraid of Russia, Russia is not economically ready for a war with a united West. The West does not want to get involved in a war for the interests of the United States, the United States can only fight in a crowd and with a knowingly weak adversary. Pat.
    1. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 11 October 2019 02: 03
      0
      In the West, the most combat-ready army is in France and perhaps also in Spain, it is from NATO countries Germany has several times admitted that planes do not fly, and tanks break down over and over again and that there are problems even with shoes.
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2019 17: 25
    +1
    Nothing good. This suggests that ..... a mess, and the next stage could be even worse.
    Everyone has commanders and support, a trough and lures, and the "legitimate authority" may have one pshyk! then it can go on for a long time.
    Look the same, from the Caucasus mountains, which they pressed on the horns ... got a very unpleasant education at their side, which obviously not our friends grab for themselves.
  18. eagle owl
    eagle owl 10 October 2019 18: 44
    0
    I see ... The troops of Pan Ataman Gritsan of Tauride
  19. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 10 October 2019 18: 45
    0
    that this again is not a civil war and they are fighting with Russia?
  20. Slon379
    Slon379 10 October 2019 20: 14
    +1
    An ideal option for sewerage and digging rows of unfriendly, by plowing the advanced low-quality air conditioners.
  21. Victor_4
    Victor_4 10 October 2019 20: 35
    +1
    The best way for the Ukrainian authorities to eliminate nationalists is to dispose of them in boilers.
  22. Overko
    Overko 10 October 2019 20: 52
    0
    I still don’t understand: APU is fighting radicals from APU or are the authorities still afraid to touch them?
  23. Antares
    Antares 10 October 2019 21: 21
    -1
    Campaign in the DNI is something very bad with the information war.
    They feed some wild nonsense. It is calculated either the Russians are not up to date, or do not use the Internet
    35th Marine Brigade, most of whom hold "extremely radical nationalist views"

    One may ask how the marines from the Odessa region (the village of Dachnoe) suddenly began to differ in such views?
    Marines are generally formed from southerners (coastal) and sit on the Azov direction.
    The 35th Marine Corps was formed last year on the basis of the 137th Marine Corps Battalion. It is deployed in the Odessa region.
    The Odessa brigade is no exception to all marines in this war. Her task is Azov.
    And secondly, how can you change the "nationalist brigade of marines from the Odessa region" to 128? (Iron for reference / Royal) which is logically more "nationalist"? laughing
    In general, even before this, reports about the war within the Armed Forces of Ukraine were a lie, but lately the LPNR does not even bother with propaganda. Either they have non-existent brigades doing something, or brigades that are not in the east at all ... and now the residents of Odessa have turned out to be "nationalistically inclined" and the Transcarpathian brigade is not.
    Wonderful are your affairs-information war.
  24. German Titov
    German Titov 11 October 2019 00: 27
    0
    We are not strategists "tactics". "Breeding" will turn out when it will fly over the "insolent muzzle". Guests in Donbass are always welcome, the rest will be met with dignity. Mi is not downloadable, more Muscovites.
  25. AKS-U
    AKS-U 11 October 2019 00: 43
    0
    - "It should be noted that most likely, the disengagement of forces in Donbass will not be for a long time."
    Gold words. Unique insight. Civil courage.
  26. ddd1975
    ddd1975 11 October 2019 02: 48
    0
    how is it all for ... lo!
  27. Kerensky
    Kerensky 11 October 2019 03: 15
    0
    Again the intrigue. Let's say there was a fight. And who won?
  28. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 11 October 2019 05: 06
    0
    In fact, those who disobey are either disarmed and arrested, or destroyed on the spot. There is no third. Otherwise, this is not an army, but a gang.
    Although in the gang, too, for not submitting to the bullet you can catch.
  29. sgr291158
    sgr291158 11 October 2019 05: 42
    0
    Yes, they would have shot each other.
  30. high
    high 11 October 2019 05: 59
    0
    The reason for the battle was the disobedience to the orders of one of the units of the Ukrainian army and the refusal to leave positions due to the separation of forces.
    It is reported by NM DNR with reference to intelligence data..

    Apparently, this is fake nonsense, because Ukrainian media are silent.

    Absolutely the same situation occurs in the breeding area near Zolotoy, where nationalists also broke through to the position of the Armed Forces and are not going to leave it.

    Clear lies, because the parties must be divorced if no shelling occurs within 7 days.
    In particular, on October 7, the enemy fired near the settlements of Novoluganskoe (three times), Mayskoye, Chermalyk, Gladosovo, Novgorodskoye, Zolotoye-4, using 120 mm caliber mortars (27 min) and 82 mm caliber mortars (26 min) .

    https://www.obozrevatel.com/crime/terroristyi-nakryili-ognem-zolotoe.htm
  31. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 11 October 2019 12: 56
    -1
    Before withdrawing troops, they must be taken to boilers and destroyed. Only after such a procedure, Ukrainians will withdraw their Nazis.
  32. Tarasios
    Tarasios 11 October 2019 13: 44
    0
    It begins to find out who rules in Ukraine and what he really wants. And what can ...
  33. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 12 October 2019 07: 53
    0
    What could be easier? Stop the supply of ammunition and food to the insubordinate brigade. And let them fight with sticks at least until the end of the century.
  34. Anatoly Telyatnikov
    Anatoly Telyatnikov 13 October 2019 00: 38
    0
    Tin drum ...
  35. mmk
    mmk 13 October 2019 02: 01
    0
    It would be very good to hammer in caliber for less and less problems.
  36. mmk
    mmk 13 October 2019 02: 04
    0
    Even better in the boiler and at the 5th point with mortars.
  37. Kibl
    Kibl 13 October 2019 14: 02
    0
    Walk the field in action! Well done, keep it up!