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Erdogan launched a military operation in northern Syria, and tensed in Ukraine

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Especially tensed in connection with the Turkish military operation in northern Syria, Ukraine. Recall that the operation "Peaceful Spring" was launched by Turkish President Recep Erdogan on the eve. Turkish troops crossed the Syrian border and entered into battle with armed groups that are recognized by Ankara as terrorist. We are talking primarily about the armed wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party.




The tension in Ukraine is due to the fact that, by and large, at the moment there is no real international opposition to Ankara. There are separate convictions, attempts to convene the Security Council, talk about the operation being stopped and that sanctions should be imposed. But in general, the hands of the Turkish president, who announced his readiness to create an 30-km security zone near the Turkish borders with a length of almost 500 km, are untied.

Why did they strain in Ukraine?

The fact is that on the eve of the nationalist armed groups, in fact, thwarted the process of the separation of forces and assets in the Donbass, entering the settlement of Zolotoye. The militants threaten to gather thousands of “gatherings” “against surrender of territories”, threaten the continuation of active hostilities. In fact, the militants dictate their will to the current Ukrainian authorities, whose representatives pledged to comply with the Steinmeier formula and carry out the withdrawal of troops from the contact line initially in several areas. The current government behaves spinelessly in this situation.

And in Kiev they understand that if the militants of the same Biletsky cannot be restrained by the authorities and the Ukrainian army, then others can do it. Moreover, Kiev understands how the United States can surrender its allies yesterday.

Erdogan demonstrates that for the security of his borders he is ready to act as tough as possible. And this is a kind of lesson that Ankara teaches Kiev in relation to what efforts states can make if a threat comes from the territory of a neighboring country.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 October 2019 07: 40
    +57
    In Kiev, they tensed rather on another occasion. They saw how easily the United States surrenders its allies, just "not for the smell of tobacco"! And it swayed all over the world ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 10 October 2019 08: 04
      +6
      Yes you are right. However, the Kremlin is worth considering.
    2. dgonni
      dgonni 10 October 2019 08: 05
      -48
      And what allies did the states surrender?
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 10 October 2019 08: 07
        +32
        Quote: dgonni
        And what allies did the states surrender?

        Yes, the Kurds considered themselves their allies ... Like the Ukrainians. It is the United States that does not consider anyone to be allies, only vassals.
        1. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 10 October 2019 08: 10
          +9
          What are allies? These are slaves, Kurdish and Ukrainian.
        2. Demon_is_ada
          Demon_is_ada 10 October 2019 09: 11
          +35
          Aha lol and before that, the proud Georgians were almost in the same place and firmly believed "all the way to the world" ...
        3. Evil echo
          Evil echo 10 October 2019 10: 11
          +3
          Kurds are not zoyuzniks to mattresses even once, but lovingly fostered "hotbeds of tension" by merikos, which they threw as usual with them.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 10 October 2019 08: 09
        +3
        How what? Kurds.
        1. dgonni
          dgonni 10 October 2019 08: 40
          -21
          Are Kurds a Contracting State with the States? Or is it Turkey that is a NATO member?
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 10 October 2019 09: 01
            +23
            Quote: dgonni
            Are Kurds a Contracting State with the States? Or is it Turkey that is a NATO member?

            You wouldn't stop at half-truths. Then remember how the same "allies" in the face of the United States
            almost killed the president of the country of NATO (Turkey) Erdogan. And then here we play, here we wrap the fish.
          2. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 10 October 2019 10: 34
            +5
            Dion, remember the island of Cyprus. The Greeks are also NATO, at that moment the Turks were more profitable. And always the one who is more profitable is right.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 October 2019 08: 27
        +12
        Quote: dgonni
        And what allies did the states surrender?

        Maybe you're right, because the United States has no allies, but there are interests. The answer is easier to hand in vassals, and Ukraine twitched because they are also preparing to pass. And plus Ukraine saw how hard Erdogan is cracking down on Bandera.
        1. dSK
          dSK 10 October 2019 09: 47
          +1
          Behind Euphrates is a vast territory where the States of Erdogan will not be allowed. Border Syrian areas will give.
          "A raven will not peck out a crow's eyes." Turkey will not release the states from NATO, and NATO is an anti-Russian "project".
      4. den3080
        den3080 10 October 2019 10: 45
        +7
        Quote: dgonni
        And what allies did the states surrender?

        let’s get tired of listing what kind of kakbe allies the United States threw.
        1. Ivan Gorinich
          Ivan Gorinich 11 October 2019 17: 59
          0
          Kurds, this is an ethnic group without territory and without a country, let the Russian Federation recognize it. What American allies are we talking about?
      5. evgic
        evgic 10 October 2019 10: 46
        +3
        South Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, Georgia, Hosni Mubarak in Egypt,
    3. maidan.izrailovich
      maidan.izrailovich 10 October 2019 09: 29
      +3
      They saw how easily the USA surrenders its allies ....

      Not just the United States, but the Anglo-Saxons in general. This is their favorite technique. Take advantage of it, and then quit or even substitute.
    4. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 10 October 2019 12: 25
      +1
      For some reason, everyone considers the United States to be Kurds' allies and at the same time forget what tasks the United States has in Syria. And their task is as simple as three pennies - chaos in the Middle East ... and the Kurds were only temporary companions in this. According to the American plan, the task of the Kurds was to drag Turkey into the Syrian trap and they seem to have completed it ... Now the war will go on there without the participation of the USA ...
      1. ser56
        ser56 11 October 2019 12: 20
        +4
        there is a good comment on the web - you can’t say better: hi
        "Trump, meanwhile, brilliantly formulated the US position in relation to the Kurds: they say, what kind of allies are they for us? Kurds are fighting for their own interests, not for the interests of the United States. Did the Kurds help the United States defeat Japan and land in Europe? Did they fight? together with the US in other parts of the world? No, they are only fighting for themselves. This is not called an "ally. So why should the US solve their problems? Why does America need it?"
        http://new.topru.org/amerikanskie-soyuzniki/
    5. iouris
      iouris 10 October 2019 18: 34
      0
      You're not right. Weak rulers of groups or states pose as US allies, but for the US they are fellow travelers. A travel companion is a situational partner. The great power of the United States does not need allies - it is too big. Agreeing with the United States is only possible on the terms of the United States' recognition of defeat, or the terms of surrendering positions in the interests of the United States. The problem is that the "partners" and opponents of the United States have begun to consume too many resources, and this "threatens the interests." Whoever doubts, let him look at how much energy and other resources the United States consumes and how much resources are available for consumption. The prime candidates for elimination are the EU and China.
  2. novel66
    novel66 10 October 2019 07: 40
    +6
    And this is a kind of lesson that Ankara teaches Kiev

    and whether to Kiev ??
    1. cniza
      cniza 10 October 2019 08: 46
      +4
      One could say Kiev as well.
    2. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 10 October 2019 09: 07
      +1
      Quote: novel xnumx
      And this is a kind of lesson that Ankara teaches Kiev

      and whether to Kiev ??

      Why not. Remember the precedent from Kosovo. At the right time, Russia took advantage of it. Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Later Crimea.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 October 2019 10: 39
        +3
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        Remember the precedent from Kosovo. At the right time, Russia took advantage of it. Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Later Crimea.

        The main thing is to choose the right moment and hurry up. "Quietly, silently, let's go to the watering hole and the whole flock will be ours."
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 10 October 2019 07: 42
    +5
    Everything went to this, and if Zelensky did not show strength, then tomorrow they would come for him too. At one time, they came for Erdogan.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2019 08: 30
      +4
      Quote: Teberii
      At one time, they came for Erdogan.

      Well, Erdogan had those who helped him, but he’s not sure that Zelensky has such people.
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 10 October 2019 11: 51
      +2
      Quote: Teberii
      Everything went to this, and if Zelensky did not show strength, then tomorrow they would come for him.

      And, if he does, then they will come for him today. Natsik is a very effective tool to influence any puppet power. Until demand (and funding) for maintaining anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine disappears, the mess will continue there. Or through a civil war. From outside, it is unlikely that anyone will want to rake the Augean stables.
      1. 4ybys
        4ybys 10 October 2019 13: 06
        +1
        While the Natsik covers the power - they are power. In yesterday’s incident in Kremennaya at a checkpoint, if they had allowed to shoot to kill, the Natsik cops would have been put down. Moreover, the local cops from Kremennaya and Rubezhnoye were not allowed to Natsik, but not the businessmen who were at the checkpoint.
  4. Strashila
    Strashila 10 October 2019 07: 46
    +4
    Zelensky’s task is to fulfill what failed under Poroshenko, for which this booze actually began, to ensure the legitimacy of NATO forces entering Ukraine. And in what form it will be, the failure to fulfill the Stanmeier formula, the protection of the GTS or small national minorities in western Ukraine, is a matter of time.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 10 October 2019 08: 16
      +1
      NATO troops? so we only need this, Donbass will be free
      1. Umalta
        Umalta 11 October 2019 22: 24
        0
        Yes, it will be free and immediately, because if NATO at least once twitches into these lands, then Russia will begin an operation to enforce peace, the Poles, as a NATO member country, like Romania and Hungary, also have their own interest and not as parties interested in the integrity of the "independent", and claiming land, once included in these countries and the population is, which type must be protected, and all curtsies and smiles will remain the theater-goer president, who turned out to be incapacitated.
    2. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 12 October 2019 07: 07
      0
      Quote: Strashila
      Zelensky’s task is to fulfill what failed under Poroshenko, for which this booze actually began, to ensure the legitimacy of NATO forces entering Ukraine. And in what form it will be, the failure to fulfill the Stanmeier formula, the protection of the GTS or small national minorities in western Ukraine, is a matter of time.

      So Powder slept and saw NATO troops in Hohland. He himself called them in plain text! And to legitimize the entry of troops, it was enough for him to make an official appeal and sign a formal agreement. And now Zelensky is clearly not opposed. So what's the problem? Why haven’t they come yet?
  5. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 October 2019 08: 05
    +4
    Why did they strain in Ukraine?
    Now they know everything perfectly and that their minke whales will merge, like the Kurds, it is only a matter of time.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2019 08: 45
      0
      Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      Now they know everything perfectly and that their minke whales will merge, like the Kurds, it is only a matter of time.

      Yes, they didn’t really notice them anymore, they helped with the help of the IMF more by language than by deed.
  6. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 10 October 2019 08: 08
    +3
    Jokes as a joke, but in order to fully implement the "Steinmeier Formula", Russia will still have to cleanse the Donbass from ultra-right dishonesty, because the Ukrainian president is trembling like an aspen leaf in the wind, out of fear of their Nazis who are disturbing the people.
  7. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 10 October 2019 08: 09
    +5
    There is no connection between the people who tensed in Ukraine because of the events in Turkey; the author of the article gives out wishful thinking. And this is where the UN Security Council really needed to strain, since Turkey’s open intervention in Syria is a direct violation of international law, although everyone in Syria is not lazy, but nonetheless ... and our position is frankly surprising here, We have always stood for international law, and here the personal interests of the state (gas pipeline, and other large-scale projects in Turkey) outweighed the scales. This was quite expected from the USA, the Kurds did all the work against ISIS for them and they threw them what’s called, our country sided with Turkey on this issue, although official Damascus is against this invasion but does not have the strength to confront Turkey somehow, if they somehow fought against the SSA militants, now they are unifying the SSA with the Turkish army - there is practically no chance. So it turns out that the Kurds were left alone against the whole world .... and there remains only to hope that Erdogan will put the brakes on time and not arrange the genocide of the local Kurdish population.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 10 October 2019 08: 34
      +1
      It turns out Erdogan Turkish stream and the purchase of S-400 tied Russia's hands. If we shred, we lose pieces of cheese. It turns out Erdogan is a very competent political player and managed to correctly set the traps. But in Ukraine they can think about it. If Turkey can so easily send troops to another country, why can’t Russia?
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 10 October 2019 08: 47
        +2
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        .... If Turkey can so easily send troops to another country, why Russia can not?


        Yes, Erdogan in this regard, well done, made all the major players turn their backs on the Kurds + as a bonus, and also grab part of the territory of Syria. It turns out that all the same, it was not in vain that Turkey supplied the people / weapons of the militants in Syria, who had already fought for the interests of Turkey there as well. But Ukraine is clearly not worth worrying about (IMHO of course), Russia has too many enemies to allow us to lead troops to Ukraine without consequences too. No, of course, if we wish, we can do it, but the consequences will be serious.
        1. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 10 October 2019 22: 36
          0
          , << Russia has too many enemies to allow us to lead troops to Ukraine without consequences. No, of course we can do it if we wish, but the consequences will be serious. >> All this is certainly true. But the nerves are not iron! But what if!? What if Russia decides to send troops to Ukraine? What if the striped friends will abandon Ukrainians as Kurds !? Scary though! Nerves have not been canceled!
      2. Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator 10 October 2019 18: 10
        +2
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        in Ukraine they can think about it. If Turkey can so easily send troops to another country, why can’t Russia?

        Oh! don’t make me brains! You will laugh like this - Russia will not introduce any troops - this is not required at all! It is enough to stop restraining the DPR and LPR Armed Forces, deliver a missile and artillery strike from afar at previously reconnoitered targets and "urgently" release individual officers of individual military forces on "family leave". And that's it! In these conditions, the SBU and the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves will pass over the Natsik-Bandera like rats, in anticipation of an imminent trial. But it is much easier to blame the dead carcasses - the bribes are smooth from them!
        1. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 10 October 2019 22: 44
          0
          I also have the feeling that with a serious kneading there they will run together in a race to surrender each other or, like their older Natsiks, will rush to South America. The true question is, to what boundaries will the Natsik be squeezed? To Kiev or to the western border? They can leave the territory near Poland. Natsik in this situation will not be bored either. It seems that Europe is nearby and the Poles are looking at them with a wolf, and the Russians do not favor.
    2. kit88
      kit88 10 October 2019 08: 42
      +20
      Damascus and Moscow offered the Kurds to join their efforts in the fight against the barmaley. They cynically refused. They said it was warmer under the American wing. Now they sit at a broken trough, do not know what to do. And now no one will really help them.
      1. Aleksandr21
        Aleksandr21 10 October 2019 08: 58
        -3
        Quote: kit88
        Damascus and Moscow offered the Kurds to join their efforts in the fight against the barmaley. They cynically refused. They said it was warmer under the American wing. Now they sit at a broken trough, do not know what to do. And now no one will really help them.


        Yeah, the Kurds were not lucky, but there is really very little information here, our media present one picture but not the fact that it is so. For example, I well remember how our military was in Afrin and how warmly the Kurds welcomed them, were they for the United States? It is doubtful that it is quite possible that there were different centers of influence of the Kurds (that is, different groups that represented the interests of the Kurds) and even if you look across the territory there is a wide spread of the Kurds, so who knows how it really was ....
      2. Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator 10 October 2019 18: 15
        0
        Quote: kit88
        And now nobody really can help them.

        See, this is such a thing! From now on, science will be different! Buchi vochi, sho kupuvali, now yizhte, hoo out! (we warned you!) (c)
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 October 2019 08: 53
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      And this is where the UN Security Council really should have strained up, since Turkey’s open intervention in Syria is a direct violation of international law, although in Syria everyone is not lazy,

      Well, you yourself said "all and sundry," and this has been done for a long time by the same states, but the UN is silent, and will now remain silent. Although in yesterday's article about the Kurds, we did not approve of these Kurds very much, and I myself struck a lot of disadvantages for writing "sorry for the Kurds", but today we already support the Kurds. And now I will again grab a bunch of minuses.
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 10 October 2019 09: 06
      +7
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      There is no connection between the people who tensed in Ukraine because of the events in Turkey; the author of the article gives out wishful thinking.

      Why not? Kiev was probably a little dazed by the fact that his beloved "hegemon" could not keep Ankara from a military solution to the issue. Moreover, the "hegemon" himself got on the skis and departed, leaving his allies on his own.
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      But where they really had to strain so it is in the UN Security Council,

      Already tense. Yesterday, Germany, France, Poland and a couple of countries, forever concerned about saving American interests to the detriment of their own, called for a meeting of the UN.
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      and our position is frankly surprising here, we have always advocated international law, and here the personal interests of the state (gas pipeline, and other large-scale projects in Turkey) outweighed the scales.
      Do not be surprised. The Kurds put their bets on the wrong horse, and forgetting that it was Russia that was always distinguished by loyalty to them, they clearly worked against our interests. If they created Kurdistan, it would be the main destabilizing factor in the Baltic East for decades to come and would not bode well for its neighbors. One of the PKK leaders said, "The Kurds are now the most dynamic force in the Middle East. They are fighting in the most decisive way, they are better organized. The US cannot ignore this. How can the US achieve its goals in the Middle East without the PKK? Without the Kurds? It is not. How does Europe end its dependence on Russian gas without the Kurds? Oil and gas flows also flow to the Mediterranean through Syrian Kurdistan. If this route is secured, Europe can breathe freely again. "
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      This was quite expected from the USA, the Kurds did all the work against ISIS for them and they called them thrown
      There is an American tradition of throwing their "allies".
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      although the official Damascus itself is against this invasion, but he does not have the strength to somehow resist Turkey
      Perhaps for this reason Damascus did not initiate the convening of the UN Security Council? wink There is a double-edged sword. Damascus and Ankara are more allies than opponents in nullifying the project to create an independent Kurdistan, and this is the task that is being solved now. Damascus made a statement yesterday that it is ready to consider the creation of Kurdish autonomy under "certain conditions", which implies the abandonment of the Kurds of their ambitions and the appearance of a fit of love for Damascus. By the way, the Kurds also asked Moscow yesterday to become a mediator and guarantor in negotiations with Assad.
      Quote: Aleksandr21
      So it turns out that the Kurds were left alone against the whole world .... and there remains only to hope that Erdogan will put the brakes on time and not arrange the genocide of the local Kurdish population.

      For that fought for it and ran. hi
  8. askort154
    askort154 10 October 2019 08: 10
    +2
    Erdogan became convinced that only through tough behavior can you achieve your interests. An example of this is the DPRK. Unfortunately, this is not enough for us. We calmly "swallowed" the situation when Ukrainian shells flew into the Rostov region.
    And they could use this moment to the fullest - to liberate the whole of New Russia.
    But we do everything with caution - "and what will the West tell us about it."
    We behave according to the proverb - "and want to and inject, and mom does not order."
    So they take us muzzle on the table for any reason, and this is the destiny of the weak in spirit.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2
      SOVIET UNION 2 10 October 2019 08: 40
      +1
      Putin celebrated his birthday with Shoigu, and not with Miller and Sechin. Not without purpose all this. It is clear that we have a clan system. But it seems clear that Putin is supported by security forces, and he is them. Putin’s clan of merchants, bankers, and raw materials is not respected. Perhaps fateful decisions were made in nature about which we will learn in six months.
      1. tralmaster
        tralmaster 10 October 2019 08: 44
        +4
        If you have been living for more than a year, you should know that they have been together since 2000. And the prident has real friends. And do not draw any stupid conclusions from this.
        1. SOVIET UNION 2
          SOVIET UNION 2 10 October 2019 08: 57
          0
          I am aware that the Ministry of Emergencies was created by the liberals as a legal armed organization led by Shoigu. And Shoigu gave out a thousand assault rifles in '93 to support liberal-minded friends. But Chubais supported Putin’s candidacy for president. As well as Nemtsov and Berezovsky. That's just Putin today probably talks only with Shoigu, and not with all immigrants from the 90s. The army is all the same the fulfillment of assigned tasks, and not the search for reasons why this is impossible (as in civilian life).
        2. ABM
          ABM 11 October 2019 16: 05
          0
          After moving from St. Petersburg, on the initiative of Chubais, Vladimir first lived in Moscow in the kitchen of Kudrin for the first time ...
      2. Igor Aviator
        Igor Aviator 10 October 2019 18: 25
        +1
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Putin’s clan of merchants, bankers, and raw materials is not respected.

        GDP is an incredibly smart, wise and insightful person! He is well aware of the ability and willingness of the clan you mentioned to sell and (or) betray. Just for now, unfortunately, without them it is impossible ...
    2. Super
      Super 10 October 2019 13: 49
      0
      You are a liberalist and Russophobe. You do not judge geopolitics.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2019 08: 17
    0
    Erdogan demonstrates that for the security of his borders he is ready to act so tough

    Do not teach us sultans ... you can turn to the experience of our ancestors !!! They knew how to finish any imperfections / alterations !!! To do this, you need something to have, iron !!! That's just hde it is ??? to what depths is hidden?
  10. cniza
    cniza 10 October 2019 08: 45
    0
    Erdogan launched a military operation in northern Syria, and tensed in Ukraine


    I’m neither a strategist nor a politician, but it seems to me that this is Erdogan’s big mistake and his sunset ... and then it can blaze so that nobody sees it.
  11. brr1
    brr1 10 October 2019 08: 54
    +3
    Quote: dgonni
    And what allies did the states surrender?

    naive
    1. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 11 October 2019 03: 57
      0
      But the United States does not have allies in the usual sense of the word, there are certainly obedient ones, they are English speakers and there are not very obedient ones, these are either those in NATO or simply acupunctured by their troops, for example, Japan. With the latter, at least the appearance of friendships must be maintained.
  12. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 10 October 2019 09: 26
    +1
    But is there a threat to Ukraine coming from neighboring countries? They are a threat to themselves and do not need to interfere with them. Let them eat each other until they die forever
  13. Overko
    Overko 10 October 2019 09: 41
    0
    Something from this article did not understand who "strained" in Kiev .... Or is it a simple fantasy of the author?
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 10 October 2019 09: 48
      +1
      It seems the author is delirious ....
  14. usr01
    usr01 10 October 2019 10: 00
    +4
    NO! will not help - because Bendera are non-negotiable and do not learn anything, do not understand. Not only on other people's examples, but also on their own !!!! (Von Khrushchev pardoned them ... and what became people ???) Only a bullet in the forehead, or a rope (as they were hung in Kiev in 1944)
    1. reservist
      reservist 10 October 2019 13: 37
      +2
      Quote: usr01
      how in Kiev in 1944 they hung

      not in 1944, but in 1946 ...
      and not Bandera, but the German Nazis ...
      The Kiev trial dealt with atrocities in many regions of Ukraine, P. Scheer was charged for crimes in the Kiev and Poltava regions, K. Burkhardt was charged with crimes in the Donbas, G. Trukenbrod in Pervomaisk, G. Heinish in Melitopol, Novomoskovsk, Kremenchug, Znamenka - defendant E. von Chammer und Osten, in other cities - O. Wallizer, V. Gellerfort, E. Knol, F. Beckenhof, G. Isenman, E. Iogshat, V. Mayer, I. Lauer, A. Schadel, B Drachenfels-Calluveri.

      the Soviet government treated many of the Banderaites too "softly" ... the same Sashko Bilyi was born near Perm in a family of exiled Banderaites, grew up there, served and then returned to Ukraine ...
      Suvorov was right - the unfinished forest grew again ...
  15. Saul_Rhen
    Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 14: 25
    0
    What does this scribble do in the news section?
  16. Kontrik
    Kontrik 10 October 2019 18: 52
    0
    Well, look Erdogan ... You need a small victorious war against the Kurds sold by the United States .. Act! Russia is not opposed, but it is still a dangerous adventure .. Russia will observe and insure that there are no provocations from the United States and Israel. hi
  17. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 11 October 2019 03: 48
    0
    The same Americans, even during the reign of Poroshenko, advised acting cautiously and bringing the matter to a full-scale clash with Russia, since even then it was obvious how this would end. These tips have not lost their relevance now.
  18. ilik54
    ilik54 11 October 2019 07: 02
    0
    All these shows will continue until we put the gas pipelines into operation. And only then, when no one can change anything, when the bulk of Russian Ukrainians will receive Russian citizenship and Russian passports, then Ukraine simply will not in fact, even troops will not have to be deployed. Because the soldiers and commanders of the DPR and LPR will become citizens of Russia and, in fact, the Russian army. Ukraine will simply disappear "like dew on sonzi". In the meantime, we sit and listen to this nonsense, screeching, howling and delirium - we are playing for time.
    1. 1970mk
      1970mk 11 October 2019 10: 55
      -2
      How interesting! Do you protect Russians? Well done! In your country, how do Russians live? The defenders are silent about this ... And about the pipe - the ROI of THIS is simply IMPOSSIBLE!
      1. ilik54
        ilik54 11 October 2019 16: 02
        +1
        Russians live in Russia, as their ancestors lived in different ways. And if the pipelines were not profitable, then the Russian money would not be enough to build them, and since they are building them, it means profitable. So that you, enemy, are lying here.
        1. 1970mk
          1970mk 11 October 2019 16: 04
          -2
          Beneficial to whom? Is the payback period for Turkish Stream 47 years? Yes, IT IS INSECURABLE!
  19. sergo42
    sergo42 11 October 2019 10: 36
    0
    As for the delivery of their own tamed mongrels with mattresses, this is true, and it has been at all times. But as for the "others" who can restrain the Ukrainian Natsiks, this is the author of too good an opinion about our liberoid regime ...
  20. 1970mk
    1970mk 11 October 2019 10: 53
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    The headline is just FUNNY! Assad is our Friend ... he says it is aggression! And we did not strain))) Fiction and political prostitution! Erdogan’s friend was found! Just recently - we will not forget, we will not forgive, and here you are! The policy of the Russian Federation more and more reminds the circus!
  21. Igoresha
    Igoresha 11 October 2019 13: 27
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    I think I’d like Ze to fight them. I would already find a way to cut my salary.
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  23. Azis
    Azis 11 October 2019 21: 08
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    Quote: Overko
    Something from this article did not understand who "strained" in Kiev .... Or is it a simple fantasy of the author?
    It refers to the people of Kiev who committed the act of defecation at that time