In Ukraine, presented a model of an aircraft hypersonic missile

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In the near future, the Ukrainian armed forces may receive hypersonic weapons aviation guided missile. Appropriate development at the exhibition "Weapon and security-2019 "was presented by Yuzhnoye Design Bureau. This was reported by Ukrainian military blogger diana_mihailova in his material.

In Ukraine, presented a model of an aircraft hypersonic missile




The Yuzhnoye Design Bureau from the Dnieper (Dnepropetrovsk) at the Arms and Security-2019 exhibition these days in Kiev presented several of its developments, including three launch vehicles, an Earth remote sensing spacecraft and hypersonic guided missiles " Bliskavka "(" Lightning "). All developments are presented in the form of models, including the new hypersonic missile.

Unfortunately, the developers did not disclose the tactical and technical characteristics of Lightning, confining themselves to the message that the missile is hypersonic, can be equipped, depending on the tasks, with a military unit for various purposes and that it is an air-to-ground missile system. Su-27 and Su-24М aircraft, which are in service with the Ukrainian Air Force, are declared as carriers. At the same time, it is argued that for the adaptation of aircraft for a new missile, significant re-equipment of aircraft will not be required.

It is also unknown at what stage in the development of hypersonic weapons are Ukrainian designers.

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  1. +14
    9 October 2019 19: 10
    Unfortunately, the developers did not disclose the tactical and technical characteristics of the "Lightning"


    In order not to disgrace laughing

    I wonder how many more years the Sumerians will give out the old Soviet developments for their own? bully
    1. +19
      9 October 2019 19: 29
      There, only money can hype with the speed of hypersound.
      1. +10
        9 October 2019 19: 45
        Quote: Ancestors from the Don
        There, only money can hype with the speed of hypersound.

        laughing laughing
        They are already approaching a hyperlight ... wassat
        1. +4
          9 October 2019 21: 55
          hypersonic aircraft guided missile

          One of the problems with hypersonic missiles is the lack of communication.
          Air is ionized and envelops the rocket with a cocoon that is impervious to radio waves. It is because of this that the connection with the descent spacecraft is lost during the passage of the upper layers of the atmosphere.
          That is a rocket CAN NOT BE simultaneously hypersonic and controllable. It goes absolutely autonomously, at a pre-entered course. It is no longer possible to correct the trajectory after launch, as well as cancel the strike after launch.
          1. +9
            10 October 2019 03: 18
            Quote: Shurik70
            One of the problems of hypersonic missiles

            Judging by the photograph, this is never a hypersonic missile, but an ordinary supersonic missile, with a speed of 2,5 - 3 M, not higher. Pay attention to the shape of the air intakes. And the developer himself calls it supersonic. The rest is the hyperbole of journalists.
            1. +2
              10 October 2019 03: 43
              And you are careful hi
            2. 0
              10 October 2019 07: 34
              Quote: bayard
              Judging by the photograph, this is never a hypersonic missile, but an ordinary supersonic missile with a speed of 2,5 - 3 M

              ========
              And for're coming out-patriots and Mach 3 - this is already "hypersound"! bully
      2. -7
        9 October 2019 22: 05
        Yes, they dig at us at times more, remember Plesetsk.
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      1. +6
        9 October 2019 20: 28
        As one of my acquaintances said in 2000: "Just imagine, they have been cutting and exporting the country for ten years, and it still has such a supply. To export so much, you have to plow day and night without interruption."
        So many trains with scrap metal passed through the Kaliningrad railway that there were times when the port was full of wagons - the Germans did not have time to receive them. And in my depot, a merchant-metalbreaker comrade. Tsurman issued a salary for the entire depot when the money was delayed for 2 weeks.
        1. +2
          9 October 2019 21: 35
          They are sure that day and night we exported valuable Ukrainian technologies from the Donbass, because they are supposedly smart, but we are not. Seriously
      2. +1
        9 October 2019 21: 30
        we are invaders - they all exported
      3. -7
        9 October 2019 21: 54
        Quote: Kontrik
        WHERE ARE ALL "brothers hoh yyy"? We mean the occupants .. well, well ..

        en 225 Mriya will again celebrate in December
        31 years in service
        more than 30 years of records and record work.

        but the plane remained in Ukraine
        But Buran remained in the Russian Federation
        Buran was "taken to Le Bourget in 1989" on the hump "of the new" Mriya ". On April 12, 1991, he was in the fresh air at the air parade for the last time. The program was curtailed in 1993, and all that remained of the Buran

        and this is not Ukraine .. this is the Russian Federation
        great USSR
        and you prefer to say that the neighbors are worse than you do with the legacy!
        cheers to patriots the main thing is the neighbor’s cow
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        2. +4
          10 October 2019 07: 47
          He’s already good with his Mriya, it’s better to ask how Antonov’s enterprise is there. Mriya is likely to survive the enterprise that created it. Buran sorry I do not argue and a lot of things sorry. Just do not need to compare, in the Russian Federation Buran was destroyed, and in Ukraine an entire country.
        3. 0
          10 October 2019 08: 25
          Buran stands in a park in Sochi
          1. 0
            10 October 2019 11: 09
            This is a mock buran. But the only remaining real flight prototype, sadly, is contained in a museum in Germany. And it looks well-groomed, better than any other of our layout or groundwork in Kazakhstan. That's where the shame is.
            1. 0
              10 October 2019 12: 13
              dashing 90? when did you sell it?
              1. 0
                10 October 2019 13: 07
                Under Yeltsin it was sold, although in the late 90s it was demostered at our MAKS. Then the way to Sydney, Bahrain and eventually remained in the Speyer Museum.
        4. 0
          10 October 2019 11: 06
          In the photo, by the way, is not Buran, but Baikal. A much more perfect apparatus should have been.
        5. 0
          10 October 2019 11: 39
          Kazakhstan suddenly became the Russian Federation? Kazakhs will be surprised
      4. +1
        9 October 2019 22: 07
        Quote: Kontrik
        WHERE ARE ALL "brothers hoh yyy"? We mean the occupiers .. well, well.

        Как хde? A blЫsidebar!? And nat. baht. for what shisha thrive ..? And Svido ElЫshe fought for sho?
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    3. +8
      9 October 2019 19: 48
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      I wonder how many more years the Sumerians will give out the old Soviet developments for their own?

      It's not about the Sumerians! They are always ready to run ahead of the engine and dig another sea! The complexity of creating hypersonic missiles is recognized by the entire engineering world. Combining the incompatible and getting more than 6-7 Machs is a very difficult technical task! And with all due respect to YuzhMash, I can say that this is not a project, but a project!
      1. +4
        9 October 2019 20: 13
        Hypersonic Ukrainian rocket lol fool ahah
        Small for Ukraine then. Yuzhmash should immediately do hyper-duper-mega-extra-prima-rocket with the crew of the Terminators. laughing
      2. +3
        9 October 2019 20: 57
        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        I wonder how many more years the Sumerians will give out the old Soviet developments for their own?

        It's not about the Sumerians! They are always ready to run ahead of the engine and dig another sea! The complexity of creating hypersonic missiles is recognized by the entire engineering world. Combining the incompatible and getting more than 6-7 Machs is a very difficult technical task! And with all due respect to YuzhMash, I can say that this is not a project, but a project!

        Yes, they just like the word itself - "Hyper" (hyperloop, hypersound, hypersalo, hyperorill, hypervyshyvanka). Hypertseuropeans in one word Yes
    4. +1
      9 October 2019 20: 22
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      I wonder how many more years the Sumerians will give out the old Soviet developments for their own?

      It is difficult to imagine, but it may be that they are blind, and in the good old days "southern" was a powerful enterprise. But everything comes to an end.
      1. +2
        9 October 2019 20: 38
        Quote: tihonmarine
        in the good old days "southern" was a powerful enterprise. But everything comes to an end.

        in "Yuzhny" 25 years ago they completely changed the composition of the design bureau Yes . (photo attached)
        1. +3
          9 October 2019 21: 59
          Quote: Tersky
          in Yuzhnoye 25 years ago, the design bureau was completely changed. (photo attached)

          However, he looked at the site - he heads the Russian
          Degtyarev Alexander Viktorovich
          Director General
          State enterprise
          Design Bureau "Southern"
          them. M.K. Yangelya ",
          Academician of NAS of Ukraine
          Head of the State Enterprise "Design Bureau" South "- the parent company of the rocket and space industry of Ukraine.
          Born October 31, 1951 in the city of Yaransk (Kirov region, Russia). He graduated from the Leningrad Mechanical Institute (BSTU) with a degree in Aircraft Engines (1975) and the Department of Economics of Dnipropetrovsk National University (2001). He completed an internship and training at a number of aerospace companies in the USA and France

          and there in the leadership of the Russian military in Ukraine ...
          1. +1
            9 October 2019 22: 14
            Well, except if they took the air-to-air missile as a basis. And then if you turn on your imagination and force yourself to believe in it. By design, the layout is somewhat similar to an air-to-air Meteor missile. But how will they make it hit the target, even if RCC Neptune cannot achieve this through testing?
            1. +1
              9 October 2019 22: 44
              It is also unknown at what stage in the development of hypersonic weapons are Ukrainian designers.

              At the stage of manufacturing the layout .......
          2. +6
            10 October 2019 00: 15
            Quote: Antares
            headed by russian

            laughing laughing laughing Determined the same ... by name and place of birth. Voila, everything is revealed, everybody get out of the dusk. fellow wassat The trouble is the trouble ... Ishsho Pasha Klimkin, Kostya Grishin, etc. to the heap. Yes Exactly - trouble came to mind. No, they are not born dill - they become and yes, they often die. Further explanations are unnecessary, for the clever (???) is enough.
          3. 0
            10 October 2019 08: 17
            Quote: Antares
            He completed an internship and training at a number of aerospace companies in the USA and France

            We had to start with this, we taught the French and Yankos in many ways, and they taught the original Russian how to destroy such enterprises as Yuzhnoye. And there were always enough shabes, although all enterprises in Ukraine were transferred from Russia to Ukraine, where there were Russian leaders, there was order. And now it somehow lives, because an intelligent person is sitting, and not a bouncing puppy that has died.
    5. 0
      10 October 2019 02: 59
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      In order not to disgrace

      Everything is simple here. In a hurry, have not yet come up. Prior to that, they issued the S-125 air defense system for the latest hypersonic anti-ship complex equipped with the latest cruise missiles.
    6. -4
      10 October 2019 06: 55
      As much as Russia
      1. 0
        10 October 2019 08: 58
        Quote: nikolai.kolya
        As much as Russia

        In your sweet dreams
        PSRussia is written with a capital letter.
        1. -2
          10 October 2019 10: 59
          Name the heels of exclusively Russian developments without a Soviet backlog
          1. 0
            10 October 2019 12: 00
            ICBM Yars, Su-57, S-500, MLRS Tornado-S, self-propelled guns Coalition-SV, NAPL Lada, frigate 22350, MAPL Yasen-M, SSBN Borey-A, T-14, T-15, Boomerang, RCC Zircon, КР Х-101 / Х-102, КР Х-50, КР Caliber, МРК Karakurt, REB Krasuha 2, SPRN Voronezh-M / DM / SM / VP. The list goes on and on.
            1. -2
              10 October 2019 12: 48
              Read the genealogy of these and systems (maybe except krasukha and a couple of others) and write that they are made without a Soviet backlog ...
              Do not write nonsense.
              The Russian Federation alone did not give the world anything; there is only history and culture formed by other states (Kievan Rus, the Russian Empire, the USSR)
              1. 0
                10 October 2019 14: 25
                Read the genealogy of these and systems (maybe except krasukha and a couple of others) and write that they are made without a Soviet backlog ...
                Do not write nonsense.

                What is the nonsense? The fact that the Su-57, S-500, Krasukha 2 and much more was created in Russia from scratch? It's a fact. Tell me their pedigree, if you are such an expert. Refute me by referring to the facts, if you have them there is.
                The Russian Federation alone did not give the world anything; there is only history and culture formed by other states (Kievan Rus, the Russian Empire, the USSR)

                This is the stupid statement above. The Russian Federation is capitalized.
                In Russia, the history (past) is always poorly predicted. The starting point of history is changing as it is beneficial to everyone. And Kievan Rus was taken by the Communists as the starting point artificially, based on the chosen interpretation of history under a specific ideology. But before Kievan Rus was Novgorod Russia, and before that there was much more. But Kievan Rus was taken as a reference point.
                RF continuation of RI and the USSR.
                1. -1
                  10 October 2019 17: 12
                  '' I wonder how many more years the Sumerians will pass off the old Soviet developments as their own? ''
                  I answered this comment .... Ukraine has the same basis as we are SOVIET.
                  P.S.RF 28 years old as well as the entire post-Soviet space that came before - this is a common story, whether someone likes it or not
  2. +5
    9 October 2019 19: 11
    And along the road - dead with braids to stand ... And silence!
    Screech ...
  3. +7
    9 October 2019 19: 14
    I wonder when Ukraine will ship the first batches of Bliskavka missiles to the United States and China :? Russia with its hypersonic X-47M2 "Dagger" is now resting.
    Ukram itself would have to find non-used parts for its ancient SU-27.
    1. 0
      9 October 2019 19: 26
      By the way, they find. And not even beu. In the countries of the former ATS, this good will last another ten years.
      1. +4
        9 October 2019 19: 45
        And where in the countries of the former ATS spare parts for the Su-27?
        Did it blow the wind?
        1. 0
          9 October 2019 19: 51
          Well, then it’s pouted. Like these planes themselves.
          1. +4
            9 October 2019 19: 53
            What specific countries are we talking about?
          2. +6
            9 October 2019 20: 26
            Quote: 210ox
            Well, then it’s pouted. Like these planes themselves.

            The Su-27 was never delivered to the ATS countries (unlike the MiG-29) and was not in service with these countries.
    2. +1
      9 October 2019 21: 12
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      I wonder when Ukraine will ship the first batches of Bliskavka missiles to the United States and China :?

      NEVER. This missile will suffer the same fate as the Grom, Grom-2, and Sapsan missiles before. What is presented is a MODEL and something not in full size, in order for the model to turn into a natural prototype, it is necessary to conduct a bunch of tests, for which Ukraine does not have money, not an experimental material base. The widely advertised anti-ship missile "Neptune", being a copy of the Soviet X-35, cannot yet detect and hit the target, due to the lack of an operational seeker, although it can start and fly at subsonic speed. There are also completely different speeds and temperatures, for the manufacture and delivery of such a rocket it is necessary to spend a lot of time, money and have a good scientific and experimental base.
      I am designing this missile for use with the Su-27 and MiG-29, the designers are well aware that by the time it is ready, these carriers will no longer be in the Ukrainian Air Force, simply because nothing lasts forever under the moon, their life will expire.
      1. +2
        9 October 2019 22: 05
        Quote: svp67
        "Thunder-2

        it is made in the interests of the CA and for their money
        and there’s no longer the layout stage
        Quote: svp67
        due to the lack of a functioning GOS, although it can start and fly at subsonic speed.

        he is not supersonic
        Kiev will bring GOS to mind.
        Quote: svp67
        I am designing this missile for use with the Su-27 and MiG-29, the designers are well aware that by the time it is ready, these carriers will no longer be in the Ukrainian Air Force, simply because nothing lasts forever under the moon, their life will expire.

        well what nonsense?
        I don’t recognize you - you usually write sensible comments
        everywhere developers wrote who will be the platform (air, sea and land) for Neptune.
        And this is not soo 27 and instant 29! It was written everywhere!
        Su-24MR (in Odessa, by the way, it is also possible to adapt the L 39, but it is not known what they want there for 300 million UAH)
        1. +1
          10 October 2019 09: 24
          Quote: Antares
          it is made in the interests of the CA and for their money

          Already no SA abandoned this rocket
          Quote: Antares
          he is not supersonic
          Kiev will bring GOS to mind.

          When they get it, then we'll talk. In the meantime, "Neptune" - ZERO
          Quote: Antares
          well what nonsense?
          I don’t recognize you - you usually write sensible comments
          everywhere developers wrote who will be the platform (air, sea and land) for Neptune.

          Apparently he did not explain it sensibly, but this comment of mine already referred to this "hyperloop", the article clearly states that its bearer
          As the carrier declared aircraft Su-27 and Su-24M, standing in the arsenal of the Air Force of Ukraine.
          (here at the expense of the MiG "got excited" I apologize) And nevertheless, 27 and certainly 24 by the time this "hyperloop" is released will most likely be written off, at the end of the service life
      2. +1
        10 October 2019 02: 36
        That is, if you make something similar from papier mache, then they will let them go to exhibitions and can you conclude contracts? Cool theme.
    3. +2
      9 October 2019 21: 48
      Quote: Olya Tsako
      I wonder when Ukraine will ship the first batches of Bliskavka missiles to the United States and China :?

      When the sect of witnesses will make them
  4. +3
    9 October 2019 19: 15
    Presented a model of a hypersonic rocket. Grand Merci for this present. They made a laugh. And who was stopping them from mocking a blaster or moving a temporal rocket even worse? what
    1. +1
      9 October 2019 19: 20
      In the future, the US ground forces want to receive a universal hypersonic complex on which existing systems could be applied (at least partially). The Air Force and the US Navy have similar plans.
      Now, the Yankees, like the Chinese, can create their own analogue using the Svidomo patterns.
      And call it New York Gang Blisk or something.
    2. 0
      9 October 2019 20: 26
      Quote: Captive
      And who was stopping them from mocking a blaster or moving a temporal rocket even worse?

      They read fantastic literature and pass it off as valid.
    3. 0
      9 October 2019 22: 07
      Quote: Captive
      who was stopping them from mocking a blaster or even worse than a temporal rocket?

    4. +2
      9 October 2019 23: 47
      Quote: Captive
      Presented a model of a hypersonic rocket. Grand Merci for this present. They made a laugh. And who was stopping them from mocking a blaster or moving a temporal rocket even worse? what

      Yes, this is not even a presentation. And the intention is to present something. Since the Brislavka description does not have a single exact physical characteristic. Neither weight nor size. Nothing is indicated. Make sure yourself by the link.
      https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3801454.html
    5. +1
      10 October 2019 02: 37
      The glue is over. The next year they glue the death star.
      1. 0
        10 October 2019 08: 32
        If the IMF gives denyuzhku glue.
  5. +1
    9 October 2019 19: 18
    From the Technique of Youth for 60 years, have you turned a picture into a model? laughing
  6. -7
    9 October 2019 19: 20
    And these are there, in cartoons to play ...
  7. +9
    9 October 2019 19: 21
    Forgotten how to make rockets ....
    But they learned how to make layouts ...
    Paramoga !!! It is intended !!! Hooray!!!
  8. +2
    9 October 2019 19: 25
    There are models. Case for small. Design and test
  9. +1
    9 October 2019 19: 30
    Aviation, Army, Space in layouts.
  10. 0
    9 October 2019 19: 32

    The first tests of the prototype of hypersonic Ukrainians
  11. +5
    9 October 2019 19: 41
    All arrived, the non-brother saloyed also joined in the hypersonic race)))))
  12. +3
    9 October 2019 19: 52
    not even funny damn) the states we are China for years fighting a lot of money throwing out and then 404 as the layout mocked)))
  13. +1
    9 October 2019 20: 16
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Unfortunately, the developers did not disclose the tactical and technical characteristics of the "Lightning"


    In order not to disgrace laughing

    I wonder how many more years the Sumerians will give out the old Soviet developments for their own? bully

    How many - I don't know. But "Molniya" is unlike any Soviet missile. Therefore, it can also have its own development. Another thing is that they will be able to master the series. There is no problem to make a single rocket in the design bureau. And the series may freeze

    Quote: Tol100v
    It's not about the Sumerians! They are always ready to run ahead of the engine and dig another sea! The complexity of creating hypersonic missiles is recognized by the entire engineering world. Combining the incompatible and getting more than 6-7 Machs is a very difficult technical task! And with all due respect to YuzhMash, I can say that this is not a project, but a project!

    Well, there are no problems to create a rocket with a hypersonic flight speed. But this is only on condition of "non-motorized" hypersound. BUT the "Lightning" shown in the photo has an air intake, which means, according to the logic of the scramjet engine. But with "motor" hypersound for everyone who is involved in this business is a problem
    1. +1
      9 October 2019 20: 22
      Quote: Old26
      Therefore, it may have its own development.


      And what is trifling then? laughing

    2. KCA
      0
      9 October 2019 20: 32
      They have been testing the scramjet engine since the 1950s, but somehow it hasn’t worked out with serial products
      1. +1
        9 October 2019 20: 36
        X 43 has an excellent scramjet - the continuation of it most likely has a place to be, only we do not know about it.
        1. KCA
          0
          9 October 2019 20: 50
          So I say, experimental, not serial, empty, without any payload, hull, fuel and engine. We have a "Rainbow D2" based on the X-22 without any GPRVD up to 9 MAX was overclocked, planned to 14, but again -same, experimental flying laboratory
    3. -1
      9 October 2019 21: 36
      The Ivchenko Progress logo is applied on the layout. I did not see the Motor Sich logo.
      That is, we are talking about the fact that the engine was designed and manufactured specifically for Ivchenko-Progress.
      But on their site I did not find a suitable short-life engine, including promising ones.
      Either they are only developing, or something else, but the presence of this logo suggests that there are some movements with Progress in the South, that is, it is not just a model, something is being done.
  14. 0
    9 October 2019 20: 44
    It is also unknown at what stage in the development of hypersonic weapons are Ukrainian designers.

    Why is it unknown? They themselves wrote - they are building models.
  15. -2
    9 October 2019 20: 44
    Externally, the model looks like a French ASMP of 30-year-old "freshness".
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  18. 0
    9 October 2019 21: 26
    It is also unknown at what stage in the development of hypersonic weapons are Ukrainian designers.
    on the same as the killer tank of Almaty, a schoolboy’s craft made of cardboard (from googon and sticks)
  19. 0
    9 October 2019 21: 54
    Now, are schoolchildren of aircraft modeling circles attracted to exhibitions? laughing
  20. +1
    9 October 2019 22: 01
    And cho, have already launched hyperloop? belay
  21. +4
    9 October 2019 22: 03
    Well, that is, the 3 largest countries invest billions, arrange tests, come up with new materials ... but in Ukraine already:
    the missile is hypersonic, it can be equipped, depending on the tasks, with a warhead for various purposes and that it is an air-to-ground missile system. Su-27 and Su-24M aircraft are announced as a carrier
    ... Just a little bit of papemash, a flag on board, a little "blisk" and a couple of Su-27 and Su-24 still flying.
    Either they laugh, or cry ... Well, Poroshenko would broadcast it, because the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau!
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  23. 0
    9 October 2019 22: 15
    Is she straight with that piece of wood that is screwed down from below?
    1. 0
      9 October 2019 22: 25
      We diverge. Someone from the experts got excited about hypersound. Someone really wanted to see a hypersonic missile in a supersonic missile by description. And they did. Well, we lost a little, with whom it does not happen.
      The blog of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies bmpd reported on the presentation of new products of the Ukrainian defense industry. They were demonstrated in the framework of the exhibition “Arms and Security - 2019”.

      The description of the Bliskavka rocket says that it will be able to develop supersonic speed, however, according to independent experts, the design indicates the possibility of flying at hypersonic speed.

      https://naked-science.ru/article/tech/obognat-rossiyu-i-ssha-na-ukraine
  24. +1
    9 October 2019 22: 46
    Solid mockups and prototypes. Poroshenko brandished a model of a space rocket carrier, now this model .... Models of tank helicopters, etc.
    1. 0
      9 October 2019 22: 54
      So maybe someone else can succeed in throwing money. The main thing is more PR. By the way, why did the Blislavka missile model become a hypersonic missile in the future, rather than a supersonic one, as they say on Ukrainian resources? Someone used to celebrate and the missile suddenly turned hypersonic?
      https://gazeta.ua/ru/articles/donbas/_sverhzvukovuyu-upravlyaemuyu-raketu-bliskavka-predstavili-v-ukraine/932081
    2. 0
      10 October 2019 08: 22
      So even the state itself is just a mock state
  25. +1
    10 October 2019 00: 19
    For the races, the main thing on the cardboard is to paint the tridents, the rest is not important. It should have been called PlaySalko laughing
  26. 0
    10 October 2019 03: 46
    - "All developments are presented in the form of mock-ups, including a new hypersonic rocket" - until it comes to a working version, the planes will order a long life. Although, the penguins "will help." they have accumulated a lot of junk.
  27. +1
    10 October 2019 03: 48
    Papier-mâché schoolchildren made beautiful piles ... Angola, Mozambique, Burkina Faso and Chad, following the example of UKRALina, also somewhere presented models of their hypersonic weapons ..
  28. +1
    10 October 2019 04: 25
    Ukrainian mock-up at altitude ..... we are waiting for a model of an aircraft carrier ... and so on ...
  29. 0
    10 October 2019 04: 55
    And they somehow had a boy glued a cardboard tank and showed it to designers from Kharkov ...
    Can this Bandera boy scouts be blinded from plasticine too?
  30. +1
    10 October 2019 06: 12
    What kind of rocket are they talking about. Money only for layouts and scraped.
  31. 0
    10 October 2019 06: 36
    Some kind of cargo cult
  32. +2
    10 October 2019 07: 18
    In Ukraine, over the past 25 years, only models have been presented. A model of independence, a model of Europeanization, a model of democracy, a model of “the will of the Ukrainian people” on the Maidan, a model of “victories over the Russian army” in the Donbass, now here’s a model of a rocket
  33. +1
    10 October 2019 07: 29
    A blank of plastic and I can make.
  34. 0
    10 October 2019 07: 30
    A cardboard tank was .... a racket, at least painted.
    1. +1
      10 October 2019 08: 30
      They didn’t even bother to specify the technical characteristics of Brislavka. At least the size. That is already in doubt. Some kind of amateur activity. And even some of the independent experts started a rumor that this is a hypersonic missile. Laughter and more.
      1. +1
        10 October 2019 08: 37
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        Laughter and more.

        Funny these guys from kukuevo ...
        You look, at the world festival of buffoons in the forefront, they nest forever.
        1. +1
          10 October 2019 09: 45
          Well, I think in the future I will definitely ... everything points to exactly this, now the president has a comedian wink what else is needed for implementation lol
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            10 October 2019 10: 06
            Here he stands in front of them, just Kukuevsky ... a clown!
            Is it progress or regression, instead of chocolate, a cheerful lad?
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              10 October 2019 10: 44
              Victor, about regression or progress ... You have touched upon a very relevant, but not very beloved for true reasons, theme of humanity crying Well, whatever I flew from people at the most, I’ll answer a bit ... If at least 20% of the blood of the great ones clam for the deeds of their ancestors, there’s nothing to worry about them laughing we should envy them (or rather, their achievements) should have been like 20 years ... yeah ... but what didn’t grow together to see ... Will they be able to get out on their own? I will answer the same wassat There was a case with Sodom that was described in the Bible, like there, the condition for Jehovah to leave alone was to bring me ten righteous people, but the same thing didn’t grow together crying And the innate cunning with the ability to masterfully work with the language is good only for artificial evolution in greenhouse conditions, and then temporarily ... And not liberalism is dying laughing but will no longer rent a freebie in any form and words will not help, that in politics or in "business", everyone will have what they can hi
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                10 October 2019 11: 03
                Dmitriy soldier but let's say ... directly, that is. These, not brothers now, will be given to them as they want, big strong uncles / aunts and they will not be given what they want, but what others want.
                Well, it was necessary to skip everything that they had! But it was absolutely NOT LITTLE! If you look back a little.
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                  10 October 2019 11: 19
                  Eh recourse ... but they had something that we had never seen, like the Baltic states ... the most interesting thing is that even those at least all of them jumped ... how ??? Until the last I didn’t think that they would be able to, underestimated ... then I thought that if it had disappeared somewhere, it had arrived bully And this "heroic struggle against the Soviet legacy" with the stubbornness of the insane ... and where did this Soviet legacy end up in material terms? Yeah, that's right there laughing in the West, as a result, in the form of lack of competition, the purchase of resources and they were joyfully accepted into a large gay family in the form of migrant workers for cleaning toilets, cheap and unpretentious ... ce la vie hi or natural selection ...
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                    10 October 2019 11: 27
                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    natural selection...

                    Why so .... natural selection is when natural competition and the victory of the best over the worst!
                    In my opinion, this simply was not there. They just CRUSED EVERYTHING in a pancake, into slag, and dared what was left in the scoop and .... covered in it were dirty, filthy streams and breakouts of substance, where all sorts of different things floated.
                    However, themselves, themselves ....
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                      10 October 2019 12: 20
                      Victor, I warned you wink what you don’t like ...
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Why so .... natural selection is when natural competition and the victory of the best over the worst!

                      "natural" "competition" "is nothing more than a myth tongue Imagine that you are in the forest with a bare butt and you can "compete" with bunnies for carrots or other roots and tops until a bear or a pack of wolves appears and this is exactly what is natural hi And "competition" and "democracy" are all slightly distorted concepts for manipulation ... where to get money, pool - to pull laughing and this is the true essence, that is, our freebie is everything ...
                      When a man dies, it is customary to say, “Peace be with you, in other cases, repose your soul (such as an extension there in a warm place because you yourself are not quite viable for now) ... so there TOTALITARISM wassat the word kingdom itself implies a hierarchy, and given the fact that they are immortal there, there is a blatant dictate laughing and the complete irremovability of power, and this is the very thing
                      Quote: rocket757
                      victory of the best over the worst!

                      hi
                      But this does not mean that the less developed are subject to humiliation or even worse destruction ... they just need to help with advice and direct, and not give them a grenade and any high-tech crap to make life easier ...
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                        10 October 2019 12: 25
                        Like, dislike ... we just state that living with wolves is nothing to go to the forest with your bare ass!
                        Bad experiment and experience is sharply negative.
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    19 October 2019 22: 44
    welded some kind of core on top and now the hypersonic rocket and until the pan is welded it will not fly

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