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Erdogan announced the start of an operation in northern Syria: tanks cross the border

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan crossed the very “red line” that was recently announced in Washington. Recall that in the US administration, the “red line” meant the beginning of the Turkish military operation in northern Syria - in areas of compact Kurdish residence. And today, Erdogan officially announced the start of such an operation.




According to the latest information, the Turkish armed forces in northern Syria joined with the armed groups of the so-called SSA (Free Syrian Army) and began fighting against Kurdish units. Turkish Tanks enter Syrian territory, crossing the border.

Turkey’s opponent in this situation is Kurdish groups from the Syrian Democratic Union (SDS) and representatives of the armed wing of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which were added to the list of terrorists in Ankara.

Erdogan stated that the operation is carried out not only against the PKK, but also against ISIS terrorists (* prohibited in the Russian Federation). According to him, "the Turkish army will create a corridor near the southern Turkish borders, which will be free from terrorists." At the same time, the Western media reminded Erdogan that there were no ISIS * militants in the north of the SAR for a long time, adding that the Turkish president wants to legitimize the military operation against the Kurds with a reminder of this group.

According to unofficial data, the Turkish troops in the past few days, being ready, did not start a ground operation, waiting for the American contingent to leave the areas east of the Euphrates in the north of the SAR.

Recall that Trump previously promised to “destroy the Turkish economy” if the troops of this country “do something wrong.”
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Turkish Defense Ministry
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 9 October 2019 16: 46
    -6
    The Americans again threw the Kurds.
    Erdogan drives green to yellow.
    The yellow ones will return to Assad.
    Erdogan will take the greens.
    The victor in this situation is the side that did not take a single shot, but returned the territory to its ally.
    Russia.
    1. VO3A
      VO3A 9 October 2019 16: 55
      +25
      No, it was the Kurds who threw themselves, they didn’t know that the pi_ndos would merge them, if that !!! The federation within Syria did not like it, they wanted their own state ... And now they will wash themselves with their blood ..
      1. 501Legion
        501Legion 9 October 2019 17: 14
        +8
        Turks wash themselves very seriously with their own blood and their militants. if anything
        1. Sandor Clegane
          Sandor Clegane 9 October 2019 17: 50
          +22
          Quote: 501Legion
          Turks wash themselves

          Yes, who cares and how to wash, the main thing is that we would not be hooked ...... and then again tomatoes, resorts, notes .....
        2. Grits
          Grits 9 October 2019 20: 09
          0
          Quote: 501Legion
          Turks wash themselves very seriously with their own blood and their militants. if th

          If anything, it’s not very sorry for either one or the other ...
        3. bobba94
          bobba94 9 October 2019 20: 15
          +2
          The Americans withdrew their military, and Trump, in his usual manner, warned Erdogan not to let the Turkish warriors hurt the Americans. Stoltenberg (NATO) called on Erdogan to be more restrained (?!) On the offensive. Putin, in a telephone conversation, also called on Erdogan to be more restrained (?!) In the offensive. This is directly a collective conspiracy against some kind of Kurds. In this situation, not the Turks, but the Kurds are likely to wash themselves.
        4. brr1
          brr1 9 October 2019 23: 44
          0
          Quote: 501Legion
          Turks wash themselves very seriously with their own blood and their militants. if anything

          Let everyone wash together, Russia should think about itself and its allies. Each ram carries its own scrotum.
        5. Ramzay121
          Ramzay121 10 October 2019 15: 34
          -1
          do not write nonsense
      2. V.I.F.
        V.I.F. 9 October 2019 18: 21
        +9
        Quote: VO3A
        it’s the Kurds who threw themselves, they didn’t know that the pi_ndos would merge them, if that !!!

        With them, except for the striped ones, no one wanted to talk - in the region, their interests contradict everyone else. And even when the striped ones called them into "allies", everyone was amazed - supposedly, the US and Turkey are doing things together, how can the US talk to the Kurds? And the striped ones were simply not going to abide by their part of the agreements. And now, following their plan, the striped ones simply give the Kurds to be torn apart by the Turks. So you shouldn't be fooled by Trump's shouts in the press - this is just an attempt by the fraudster to preserve the appearance of decency.
        Quote: VO3A
        wanted your state

        They agreed to broad autonomy, as far as I understand. If Russia wanted to convince Assad of any concessions to the Kurds, taking into account the existing ties of this people with our country, I think that the Kurds would not go to fight for the United States, but would stand on the side of Russia and Assad. Someone simply failed in the relevant work in this direction, or did not work at all - the Turkish stream may have interfered with it.
        1. Leeds
          Leeds 9 October 2019 19: 56
          -3
          The Kurds were armed and dragged so that they could not be ground in Turkey, as they say here. It will end without consequences. Shoot and leave. Action of intimidation, showing a face. Take a screen.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 9 October 2019 21: 21
          +5
          Quote: V.I.F.
          They agreed to broad autonomy, as far as I understand. If Russia wanted to convince Assad of any concessions to the Kurds, taking into account the existing ties of this people with our country, I think that the Kurds would not go to fight for the United States, but would stand on the side of Russia and Assad. Someone simply failed in the relevant work in this direction, or did not work at all - the Turkish stream may have interfered with it.
          Yes, sir, please refer to the defects. It's just that the Kurds decided to sit with one fifth point on three stools and "throw" Turkey, Syria, Russia, Iraq and Iran, believing that "America is with them", now this fifth point will deservedly burst at the seams, while the Kurds are on their heads. the stools won't split. Their only salvation is to throw themselves at the feet of Assad and merge their armed formations into the SAA, simultaneously returning the territories they hold under the control of Damascus, which will stop the advance of the Turks. The creation of Kurdistan was in the interests of only one US country, and therefore all of the above countries are interested in the complete closure of the Kurdish project. It's just that the Turks have more opportunities and resources for this, as well as a reasonable motivation to prevent an attempt to include part of Turkey's territory into Kurdistan. Prevention, it is so ... to extinguish in the bud.
          1. protoss
            protoss 9 October 2019 21: 50
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Their only salvation is to rush to Assad’s feet and pour their armed forces into the SAA, simultaneously returning the territories they hold under the control of Damascus, which will stop the advance of the Turks.

            haha it’s the same as htc, well, or the ida in the idlib will join the Turkish armed forces.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 9 October 2019 22: 01
              +4
              Quote: protoss
              haha it’s the same as htc, well, or the ida in the idlib will join the Turkish armed forces.

              This "ha-ha" was discussed a year and a half ago, when the Kurdish chiefs, under pressure from the Turks, were already almost agreeing to unite their armed formations of almost 50 thousand bayonets with the SAA, but the Americans tried and the Kurds left this topic , although the agreement was almost reached. Now the Americans are leaving, and the Kurds will be taught. So in this situation it is "ha ha" their only salvation. Let's take a look. hi
              1. protoss
                protoss 9 October 2019 22: 08
                0
                but when it was discussed (during the Athenian campaign) from Ankara indicated that those who unite in the RPK would be considered by the Turkish army as a RPK, which is quite logical. on this discussion ended.
          2. V.I.F.
            V.I.F. 10 October 2019 13: 23
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            the Kurds decided to sit on three stools with one fifth point and "throw" Turkey, Syria, Russia, Iraq and Iran

            To throw is to promise and not to fulfill. Please tell me what the Kurds promised Assad, Russia and Turkey did not fulfill? )))
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 9 October 2019 16: 59
      +2
      Please explain: who is green and who is yellow?
      1. iConst
        iConst 9 October 2019 17: 04
        +7
        Quote: Astra wild
        Please explain: who is green and who is yellow?

        The yellow ones are Kurds. This is their main flag color. Green - type "moderate" barmaley. Islamists. Among them is the temporarily repainted ISIS.
      2. Grits
        Grits 9 October 2019 20: 11
        0
        Quote: Astra wild
        Please explain: who is green and who is yellow?

        Often look at the cards that paint the situation in Syria - you will immediately begin to understand. They draw very clearly there.
  2. tlauicol
    tlauicol 9 October 2019 16: 47
    -3
    And what are we, Russia? Who will we be rooting for in this situation? And what can Assad and the Syrian people say?
    1. Amateur
      Amateur 9 October 2019 16: 49
      +7
      And what can Assad and the Syrian people say?

      Silence - you will marry a smart one. (folk wisdom)
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 9 October 2019 16: 53
        -7
        Quote: Amateur
        And what can Assad and the Syrian people say?

        Silence - you will marry a smart one. (folk wisdom)

        Yeah, if the Syrians don't ask us questions. And in the eye how to look?
        1. Amateur
          Amateur 9 October 2019 17: 06
          +15
          And in the eye how to look?

          Whose eyes? The Turks are fighting the Kurds, who, in turn, in Turkey behave approximately like the Basayevs with the Khattabs in Russia. Assad (dad) and the Syrians fought with the Kurds for many years. The Kurds sold themselves to the Americans, and that's the answer. Mustafa Barzani - the father of the current head of Iraqi Kurdistan, Masoud Barzani, at one time transferred the Kurds to the USSR, but he did not like that he was not allowed to live, as in the Middle Ages, and he took the Kurds back. Sorry for the Kurds. This is the only multi-million people without statehood. But its leaders have earned a reputation of "low social responsibility" as they periodically rush from one "owner" to another.
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 9 October 2019 17: 11
            +1
            Guys, actually here third parties share the provinces of our ally of Syria, with our tacit approval
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 9 October 2019 17: 40
              +2
              Guys, actually here third parties share the provinces of our ally of Syria, with our tacit approval

              And there were no other options from the very beginning of the conflict. Turkey is too strong, and Syria has not controlled these provinces for about 5 years. They would have what is now left to save ....
            2. PalBor
              PalBor 9 October 2019 17: 49
              +4
              Most likely, in exchange for silence during the stripping of the SAA and VKS Idlib and parts of Latakia. Now it is more important for Assad and Russia. And then what will happen, will be later. Moreover, Erdogan, at least for now, is not going to capture all of Rojava. Up to 40 km along the border. And here it turns out an interesting movie. Kurds are in complete isolation: the Turkish army, the SAA, the pro-Iranian Hashd-Shaabi. Maybe they will allow them to sell oil a little cheaply so that they do not die of hunger, but, most likely, they will persistently persuade them to accept Assad’s terms. So, Russia can confidently look into the eyes of the Syrians.
              Well, if we don't begin to dissolve the nurses again.
            3. kjhg
              kjhg 9 October 2019 17: 55
              +2
              So then it is, but not quite. Do you understand what this is? The fact is that the Kurds at the moment, with the support of the United States, have created their own state on the eastern bank of the Euphrates. And well, if only in the territories of compact residence of the Kurds. But they went south and captured the main oil-bearing regions of Syria in the province of Deir Ez-Zor, where the main population is Arabs. And this already directly affects the economic situation of Syria itself. Russia's task is to help Assad in taking control of these areas. The Turks, having launched an offensive against the Kurds in the north, will force them to again recognize Assad’s power over them. Otherwise, after Turkey’s seizure of the northern territories of Syrian Kurdistan, Damascus will begin its operation to seize the rest of their territories.
            4. ultra
              ultra 9 October 2019 18: 02
              +1
              Quote: Tlauicol
              Guys, actually here third parties share the provinces of our ally of Syria, with our tacit approval

              Our ally did not control this territory. The current events, in my opinion, will just push the Kurds to negotiate with Assad. We had proposed to them to come to an agreement with Damascus, but they were seduced by the American promises, and now they are raking them off.
            5. Leeds
              Leeds 9 October 2019 19: 58
              +1
              Quote: Tlauicol
              Guys, actually here third parties share the provinces of our ally of Syria, with our tacit approval


              Oh, revelation has come down on man.
            6. Observer2014
              Observer2014 9 October 2019 19: 59
              0
              tlauicol (Ivan)
              Guys, actually here third parties share the provinces of our ally of Syria, with our tacit approval
              And what of it? You will not be able to sleep peacefully? I beg you .. Over the past years, we have become accustomed to such actions. And therefore we will not experience any remorse. Do not hope. We do not understand. If you are specifically against buy a ticket and go to Assad. What can I tell you more? For example, we are not a party to the conflict will suit you? Wake up to insist. "Evening M" (did not understand who it is. Dial in YouTube and listen to the song BG) will tell and prove to you the opposite. So calm down. Life goes on.
          2. Rostislav
            Rostislav 9 October 2019 17: 38
            +4
            Be that as it may, but Erdogash entered tanks into the territory of another state without asking him. What is it like?
            Insolent demonstration. And the fact that Syria is silent indicates that they are suffering with clenched teeth. Waiting for when there will be forces to throw out the sultan.
            1. ultra
              ultra 9 October 2019 18: 03
              0
              Quote: Rostislav
              Waiting for when there will be forces to throw out the sultan.

              At the moment, the number one goal is to throw out the p .. in .. dos from the right bank of the Euphrates., With the hands of the Turks this can be done.
            2. K-612-O
              K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 38
              +1
              Let me remind you that Turkish tanks also did not disappear from Afrin, but they were there much earlier. You would have found borders there somewhere else, except for Israel, the east is a delicate matter, they all have one damn leg there.
          3. V.I.F.
            V.I.F. 9 October 2019 18: 42
            0
            Quote: Amateur
            and he led the Kurds back

            40 years old, go away?
            According to the 2010 census, 23 thousand Kurds lived in the Russian Federation (according to other data, there are more than 60 thousand Kurds in Russia).
          4. protoss
            protoss 9 October 2019 21: 51
            0
            Quote: Amateur
            This is the only multimillion people who do not have statehood.

            Tamils, Sikhs, etc., look at you bewildered.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 9 October 2019 16: 50
      0
      the Turks would not have gone if Erdogan hadn’t agreed with us, the far from stupid quarrels with the states and us at the same time. Yes, I think we are in favor. Americans then they get squeezed out.
      1. 1 Navigator
        1 Navigator 9 October 2019 16: 55
        +4
        They already agreed when the SU-24 was shot down.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 9 October 2019 17: 55
          -2
          what was then passed. I understand that indignation is right, but everything changes and life does not stand still.
      2. iConst
        iConst 9 October 2019 17: 17
        +6
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Erdogan is far from stupid quarreling with the states and us at the same time.

        And what does "quarrel" mean? The Americans are no less going to create a puppet state of the Kurds along the Euphrates. This is, in fact, half of Syria - the northeast. And this territory is de facto under their control.
        And with the most oil lands. Clear from where the wind blows? Then the question will arise of disconnecting the south of Turkey - Turkish Kurds want to create their own state at the place of residence - the conflict has been going on for many years.
        Erdogan need it?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 9 October 2019 17: 56
          0
          like us. so that interests intersected. and quarreling is to do something that we and the states do not like at the same time.
    3. pavelty
      pavelty 9 October 2019 16: 51
      +1
      Everything is complicated here, we kind of kissed the Kurds at one time .. now, as if we were friends with Erdogan.
      The main thing Americans wipe their nose)
    4. dauria
      dauria 9 October 2019 16: 54
      +8
      And what are we, Russia? Who will we be rooting for in this situation? And what can Assad and the Syrian people say?


      Kurdistan with access to the Mediterranean is needed only by the United States and the Kurds. Assad and the Turks don't need it. Assad himself is not able to drive the Kurds into the stall, so most likely there will be nothing beyond the "notes of protest". Ours don't give a damn, as long as the Turks do not interfere (rather, on the contrary). Therefore, ours will either keep silent, or say "Ay-yay-yay, it's not good." But no more.
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 9 October 2019 16: 58
        -3
        In the sense "we do not care about the territorial integrity of Syria, Assad - nothing personal .."
        1. _Ugene_
          _Ugene_ 9 October 2019 18: 41
          +2
          Syria has not had any territorial integrity for many years, and now, in fact, Erdogan is an enemy of Assad for Assad, because helps in the fight against the Kurds
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 October 2019 21: 32
      +1
      Quote: Tlauicol
      And what are we, Russia? Who will we be rooting for in this situation? And what can Assad and the Syrian people say?

      We will not say anything. Everything is agreed there. Did you not pay attention to the fact that the official Damascus somehow sluggishly reacts to the beginning of the movement and makes more "routine phrases" rather than "declares decisive protests and ultimatums"? Everything rested only on the depth of the security zone the Turks would provide. The Americans wanted 5 km, Russia, Syria and Iran agreed on 15 km, Turkey initially announced 40 km, but in the process, converged on 30 km.
  3. 3vs
    3vs 9 October 2019 16: 50
    +3
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan crossed that very “red line”

    What, Comrade Trump, "they won't get off with tomatoes"?
  4. Nycomed
    Nycomed 9 October 2019 16: 52
    -28
    Where is the "legitimate" Syrian army? Why allows you to break your border? Do they have any "tigers" there? Or are they not "tigers" at all, but "jungle cats"?
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 9 October 2019 17: 28
      0
      This would not have happened in 2010 or 2012. Then there was a single country with ONE president and one army, and now?
    2. ultra
      ultra 9 October 2019 18: 06
      +4
      Quote: Nycomed
      Where is the "legitimate" Syrian army? Why allows you to break your border?

      She is waiting for you to leave the territory of Israel and join its ranks. wassat
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 9 October 2019 18: 52
        -3
        But how can I leave the territory where I am not? Think first and then write!
    3. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 9 October 2019 18: 19
      0
      I agree with you. The strange population in the country: alien men are fighting, their filon. Although in Europe the same garbage. Only in World War I, France and Germany distinguished themselves by their harmonious conscription.
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    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 17: 14
      -2
      Do not try in vain. The texts of the Armenians in this case are not quoted. The quarrel between the Russian Federation and Turkey did not work out.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 9 October 2019 17: 26
        +3
        Qguzysrd-I Russian remember this. And your Erdogad place in hell. And remember that too.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 17: 33
          +3
          It is not for you to decide, you are not God, for people to determine a place in hell or elsewhere.
          "I sincerely wish the Kurds to pour Turkish blood" But for such words you can anger God, and also earn an article on national hatred.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 9 October 2019 17: 47
            -7
            I sincerely wish the Kurds to pour Turkish blood "But for such words you can anger God, and also earn an article on national hatred.


            Yes, the Turks are only lazy at kicking. The Kurds gut them and bury them in the ground very quickly. Yes, and time to cut Turkey in parts already. This artificial state is tired of everyone. I wish the Kurds success on the battlefield and cheer for them!

            About ethnic hatred - it needs to be proved yet - I'm waiting for you in the EU court, if at all they let you go there. laughing
            1. K-612-O
              K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 02
              +7
              Well, it’s not for the Bulgarians to shake the nats with hatred, hello at 41, who fought in our south and treated and supplied the Hansics
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 9 October 2019 18: 21
                -1
                Well, it’s not for the Bulgarians here to shake the nats with discord,


                There is no national danger, according to the fact of international law, there is a bash-bazook, which again invaded a foreign state, to kill locals. All.
                1. K-612-O
                  K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 28
                  +3
                  Refuse the chimney from this bashibozuk, which you are now rebuilding at the Stakhanov pace. Most importantly, the Americans rolled back and threw the Kurds again, as in Iraq, and Turkey will finally be able to cut off its southeast from the Kurdish paramilitar. Yes, and Kurds with Assad, you see the agreement will be, which is only a big plus for the peace of the region. Before Afrin was taken, there was also a lot of stench.
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                    1. K-612-O
                      K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 46
                      +2
                      Well, our pipe, only to the Turkish coast, the rest is to the Sultan. In Cyprus, gas is not a problem either, mostly Turkish, it’s not enough for the Azerbaijanis and the Turks are taking the infection, well, but the Jews need a lot for themselves, they’re definitely not for your liking. And the cherry on the cake, the Americans tanked your tankers alas in Sabetta. But you should not go over to insults, you have not been insulted.
              2. Astra wild
                Astra wild 11 October 2019 08: 08
                +1
                Did Bulgarian troops participate on the eastern front? I remember that the Bulgarian troops were then our allies.
                You remembered the Bulgarians, but forgot the Romanians? They then tried to help Adolfik
            2. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 18: 17
              +6
              “The Kurds will gut them and bury them in the ground very quickly.” Of course, we have already seen this in Afrin lol
            3. protoss
              protoss 9 October 2019 21: 59
              0
              funny you, Bulgarians, how long have you got out from under the Turks? and even then not on their own. they are kicking someone!
  6. loki565
    loki565 9 October 2019 16: 53
    +2
    So like the United States withdrew from bases in northern Syria, then everything is agreed.
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 9 October 2019 17: 26
      +2
      Quote: loki565
      So like the United States withdrew from bases in northern Syria

      Then they left, only how many weapons they had already transferred to the Kurds - "The United States continued to supply weapons to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF): about 200 military pickups loaded with weapons were sent to the settlement of Tel Bide, which is under the control of the Kurds."
      "Nothing is new under the moon: What is, what was" - Let's remind that earlier the Kurdish security forces refused to come into contact with the Syrian government forces, preferring to seek support from the United States. Now, when the Turkish army is conducting a large-scale military operation against the YPG in the north of Aleppo province, the Kurdish field commanders suddenly remembered the possibility of joint actions with the SAA and that the Syrian army is "responsible for Syrian territory." https://topwar.ru/135911-kurdskie-komandiry-saa-dolzhna-pomoch-nam-protivostoyat-tureckoy-armii.html
  7. Astra wild
    Astra wild 9 October 2019 16: 56
    +1
    "Destroy Turkey's economy" again Trump waves the sanctions stick
  8. parkello
    parkello 9 October 2019 16: 58
    -1
    Erdogan even thinks where to climb? Now Americans around the world will buy up the old Soviet anti-tank systems and MANPADS, and will secretly supply the Kurds. In short, they need it ...
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 October 2019 17: 19
      +6
      In the meantime, the Syrian moderate "opposition" (SNA) announced that it was joining the operation against the Kurds on the side of the Turkish army. So the Americans threw the Kurds with giblets.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 9 October 2019 17: 44
      +3
      Erdogan even thinks where to climb?

      Something tells me that he "understands" this much better than ours.
      Now Americans around the world will buy

      The ones that themselves left there?
  9. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 October 2019 16: 58
    +5
    They will advance until they come into contact with the Assad forces. They will stop, gain a foothold and throw their fosterlings from the SSA into battle from this bridgehead. Such a creeping NATO "peacekeeping" with an oriental flavor.
  10. hohol95
    hohol95 9 October 2019 16: 59
    +3
    And what will the Kurds answer? Honor no less than the Poles?
    We will take a look ....
  11. Shahno
    Shahno 9 October 2019 17: 01
    0
    Quote: parkello
    Erdogan even thinks where to climb? Now Americans around the world will buy up the old Soviet anti-tank systems and MANPADS, and will secretly supply the Kurds. In short, they need it ...

    Let the teeth break off ...
  12. Nuclear_winter
    Nuclear_winter 9 October 2019 17: 04
    +1
    Kurds were being worked out.
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    2. protoss
      protoss 9 October 2019 22: 01
      0
      Quote: Nuclear_winter
      Reached

      a slightly different verb comes to mind lol
  13. Alien From
    Alien From 9 October 2019 17: 16
    0
    Erdogan did not play enough in his childhood in the war ...... but in vain!
  14. Astra wild
    Astra wild 9 October 2019 17: 22
    +3
    "Turkish tanks enter Syrian territory, crossing the border" poor Syria: once a prosperous country with a well-trained and armed army, but now the country is in chaos: besides the legitimate President Assad, will there be five more small-town "presidents" or what do they call themselves? Instead of a unified army, there are: SAA, SSA (why is it free?) Kurdish militias, local self-defense forces. Naturally, in such conditions there are many who want to "fish in troubled waters"
    1. hohol95
      hohol95 9 October 2019 20: 23
      0
      Only fishing will not be a fishing rod or a net. They just throw something exploding into the water ... hi
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 11 October 2019 07: 55
        +2
        And this is called: "malicious poaching." Or was I wrong?
        1. hohol95
          hohol95 11 October 2019 09: 44
          0
          Also illegal traffic in explosives.
  15. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 9 October 2019 17: 27
    -6
    This is what flirting with the eternal enemy of Russia leads to. The Sultan grabbed us by the throat, riding a gas pipe. It's only the beginning! Kurds do not surrender to anyone without a fight. The great war in Syria is just beginning ...
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 October 2019 17: 44
      +12
      Don’t you think that the Kurds got everyone there? Russia followed them from the age of 15-17 persuaded to agree with Assad, they decided that the Americans were more profitable and squeezed out part of the oil industry from the Arabs under their roof and drove them out of their lands, plus the ongoing spilli-villi in southeast Turkey, with the active help of the PKK from Syria, again under the Amer’s roof. Well, what to do with these? They cannot agree normally, they cannot calm down. They didn’t live with amers there, but Turks and Syrians, and it was necessary to negotiate with them when offered.
    2. ultra
      ultra 9 October 2019 18: 11
      +7
      Quote: Paul Siebert
      The great war in Syria is just beginning ...

      You are late, it has actually ended. Syria will maintain integrity, this is already a fait accompli. The return of the remaining territories to Damascus’s control is a matter of negotiations and local operations to get the rest of the gangs.
      1. Demon_is_ada
        Demon_is_ada 10 October 2019 06: 20
        0
        Michael hi You are right, Erdogan himself announced the preservation of the integrity of Syria a long time ago. It is beneficial for him ... he plans to settle Syrian refugees in the buffer territory, as he recently urged the interested parties to chip in this matter. The refugees in Turkey were well received and loyal to Erdogan, so the partisans would not work with the Kurds there, moreover, the Kurds turned on themselves the whole local population there and 30 km of the buffer does not seem to end laughing And in the end - the Syrians in Syria, Erdogan love and construction contracts and oil calculation and Assad is grateful to him ... in general, some buns for 50 years at least ...
  16. Sergey39
    Sergey39 9 October 2019 17: 29
    -3
    The Turkish armed forces will not be able to do anything against the partisan detachments of the Kurds. They will squeeze out the USA and themselves will be taken back.
    1. Grits
      Grits 9 October 2019 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: Sergey39
      Turkish Armed Forces Can't Do Anything Against Kurdish Guerrilla Units

      Does the situation in Afrin tell you anything?
  17. d.olegov44
    d.olegov44 9 October 2019 17: 32
    -1
    It is urgent to decide who to root for: for brother Assad or for Erdogan’s partner.
    1. Tzar
      Tzar 9 October 2019 17: 42
      +5
      Assad is not at all involved here, he can only hope for the manifestation of sanity among the Kurds in the form of consent to the occupation of their territories by the SAA, and the less Turks have time to occupy before this Kurdish enlightenment of the brain, the better.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 9 October 2019 17: 50
        +1
        Today, our Foreign Ministry has voiced this idea to them 1001 times, let’s see, for the last 3 years they haven’t done anything like that.
      2. Olya Tsako
        Olya Tsako 9 October 2019 17: 53
        +4
        Earlier on October 9, Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Turkish counterpart held a telephone conversation during which they discussed the Syrian issue. The Russian leader called on Erdogan to intelligently approach the operation in the north.
        What does it mean "wisely" our media do not decipher, as well as Peskov.
        Ie, "approvals" from the leadership of the Russian Federation, Erdogan received !!!
  18. Zlat070
    Zlat070 9 October 2019 17: 48
    +5
    IMHO, the stronger the Turks pile on the Kurds, the more accommodating the latter will be with Assad and Russia!
  19. Kontrik
    Kontrik 9 October 2019 17: 50
    +1
    I don’t want to wish the Turks luck and I won’t .. I’ll slaughter them there ... The only thing that pleases is the United States dumped from there and I really hope that forever ..
    Hold on Syria, Russia will not leave you .. And we will agree with the Turks! Too them these Kurds got sold .. Let them sort it out and you look it will be easier ..
  20. Denis Medveezhikoff
    Denis Medveezhikoff 9 October 2019 18: 04
    -5
    Well, horns and legs will remain from Turkey. A third of the Kurds will be taken away, and there the races with the Armenians will reach. And only the metropolitan region will remain from Turkey, and then only the country in Kaibu will be renamed. It will be interesting
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 12
      +3
      However, you are a dreamer; in Syria, the Turks fight with very limited forces and with the help of their proxies, if they really want to collapse, they multiply by zero this whole booby wagging backwards, they do not exert much effort, stupidly secure their borders, not being shy to squeeze a little.
      1. Denis Medveezhikoff
        Denis Medveezhikoff 9 October 2019 21: 25
        0
        Will they survive on three fronts? If the Greeks and Armenians still catch up
        1. protoss
          protoss 9 October 2019 22: 05
          0
          Quote: Denis Medveezhikoff
          If the Greeks and Armenians still catch up

          from the 11th century they have been jerking these poor fellows, they seem to be absolutely not rivals to the Turks
        2. brr1
          brr1 10 October 2019 00: 01
          +1
          Quote: Denis Medveikikoff
          Will they survive on three fronts? If the Greeks and Armenians still catch up

          Greeksiiiii))))))))), okay, Armenians, but Greeksiiiii)))))))))), it's not even funny (((((((((((
          1. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada 10 October 2019 08: 15
            0
            Yeah ... in my opinion, Armenians still have enough for Azerbaijan, I don’t want to hi They also have to die for the "ideas" of some obviously "not in themselves" tovarischa lol
    2. Babur_Imperat
      Babur_Imperat 9 October 2019 18: 56
      +1
      Why is this war for Kurds, Armenians and others? In a war, children remain orphans, the baby does not see the warmth of his father, will not grow incomplete, why in your hearts there is no mercy and love, there is no compassion and prudence and all this neglect is a catalyst for a fierce war
      1. Potato
        Potato 9 October 2019 20: 44
        +1
        Then, uh, that Ivan has to fight in your place! At first you reason peacefully, then you cease to defend yourself, then chaos comes and everything drowns in blood. So maybe you should not relax?
      2. brr1
        brr1 10 October 2019 00: 02
        0
        Quote: Babur_Imperat
        Why is this war for Kurds, Armenians and others? In a war, children remain orphans, the baby does not see the warmth of his father, will not grow incomplete, why in your hearts there is no mercy and love, there is no compassion and prudence and all this neglect is a catalyst for a fierce war

        Here is the site of the militarists, a site about love for people "pornhub". Everyone here wants blood, but with someone else's hands. I also
    3. Astra wild
      Astra wild 11 October 2019 08: 17
      +1
      Denis, you painted a sad picture, but hurried
  21. Denis Medveezhikoff
    Denis Medveezhikoff 9 October 2019 18: 05
    -4
    I wonder how many Turks will cut
  22. Spambox
    Spambox 9 October 2019 18: 17
    -1
    Quote: Kontrik
    Hold on Syria, Russia will not leave you .. And we will agree with the Turks! Too them these Kurds got sold .. Let them sort it out and you look it will be easier ..

    Rather, we will be able to come to an agreement with the ears of a dead donkey than with the Turks. In the meantime, they "understand" there, you take a sedative and you "look it will be easier."
  23. no better place for
    no better place for 9 October 2019 18: 18
    +2
    Firstly, how does the author know what is supposed under the red line of amers?
    Secondly, the RPK has been on the terror group list for 40 years. And not only in Turkey but also in the USA and Europe
  24. APASUS
    APASUS 9 October 2019 18: 26
    +3
    This warning is primarily to Ukraine, Poland and the Baltic tigers. The Americans will not fight for your land, they just merge
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 31
      +1
      Yes, I am afraid of the most strained in Tel Aviv, and suddenly with them as well, if that.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 9 October 2019 18: 38
        +1
        Quote: K-612-O
        Yes, I am afraid of the most strained in Tel Aviv, and suddenly with them as well, if that.

        Israel is too valuable a product, if it is allowed to be traded, then on a large scale. And now is not the time
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 9 October 2019 18: 40
          0
          But they thought that this was not possible, and now life will not be the same.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 9 October 2019 18: 49
            0
            Quote: K-612-O
            But they thought it wasn’t possible.

            They fully understand everything, I think they do not expect troops from the United States to help at all, and that's why they have the most combat-ready army in the region.
        2. Grits
          Grits 9 October 2019 20: 44
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          Israel is too valuable a product, if it is allowed to be exchanged, then on a large scale.

          But some sort of Eeeeestoniyaayaya - the product is not at all valuable. Let the turnips scratch.
  25. Babur_Imperat
    Babur_Imperat 9 October 2019 18: 49
    0
    If our grandfather calls for help, then from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean there will be billions of people willing to invest their strength and energy in this noble cause, they will give rockets and nuclear weapons and provide satellites with money and help, and donate hundreds of millions of Muslims, but for now, the Turks themselves hope for the wisdom of these people who are at war against them, what else needs to be done?
  26. Shahno
    Shahno 9 October 2019 19: 02
    -3
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: K-612-O
    Yes, I am afraid of the most strained in Tel Aviv, and suddenly with them as well, if that.

    Israel is too valuable a product, if it is allowed to be traded, then on a large scale. And now is not the time

    Well, for this, the Turks will have to assemble an Arab coalition, which is ridiculous, but without that they have a strong current for the Kurds, a maximum for Qatar ... And most importantly, get the support of the states or Russia, so that in case of something you put pressure on us when the IDF approaches Istanbul ...
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 19: 23
      +4
      "when the IDF approaches Istanbul." Don't make people laugh, you are either joking or you don't know Turks at all.
  27. Xenofont
    Xenofont 9 October 2019 19: 07
    +1
    The curly-haired women have finished playout! Anyway, the traitor overtakes the punishment anyway.
  28. GibSoN
    GibSoN 9 October 2019 19: 07
    -2
    Erdogan announced the start of an operation in northern Syria: tanks cross the border
    I really don’t understand. Why is this news on all news columns in the Russian Federation? Why is this even so important ?! Why is such news at all presented as Turkey launched a military operation to seize the border of the Russian Federation! What kind of nonsense in general ... Yes, at least 85% of the population of the Russian Federation do not know what is in Turkey and Syria at all .. And for 95%, I don’t care what happens there.
  29. Aleksandr21
    Aleksandr21 9 October 2019 19: 19
    -1
    And so there is a division of the pie called Syria. And if someone there is illusion that Turkey and Russia are in the same harness then in vain ... the Turks have teamed up with the SSA (consider Turkey’s manual fighters who are fighting against the Syrian Army), they’ll now engage in Kurds, then they will occupy the territory and will fight back from the Syrian Army, although Turkey has been fighting not so long ago against the legitimate authorities of Syria. Yes, and about the relations between Turkey and the United States there is no need to be mistaken, Turkey is not going to leave NATO, there may already be an agreement between them on the division of Syria).
  30. 100502
    100502 9 October 2019 19: 26
    0
    The main thing for the spiders in the bank is to help eat each other
  31. Shahno
    Shahno 9 October 2019 19: 27
    +1
    Quote: Oquzyurd
    "when the IDF approaches Istanbul." Don't make people laugh, you are either joking or you don't know Turks at all.

    There is no doubt that a situation like the confrontation between Israel and Turkey is close to 0. ....
    More worried about Iran’s ability to use precision weapons
  32. wt100
    wt100 9 October 2019 19: 57
    0
    So we'll go to Idlib in two weeks.
    Erdogan line the northern territory of the ATS. And Assad is still part of Idlib.
    It looks like the auction took place.
  33. taurtaurov
    taurtaurov 9 October 2019 20: 16
    -1
    Erdogan is chopping off the floor of Syria to the noise, under the nonsense that is happening in Syria, a complete mess, saw transport with the flags of Turkey and the states together, we are missing something, we don’t need this, it seems they will change the ethno-geographical map of Syria, ????? ? Again striped ???
    1. taurtaurov
      taurtaurov 9 October 2019 20: 30
      0
      Quote: taurtaurov
      Erdogan is chopping off the floor of Syria to the noise, under the nonsense that is happening in Syria, a complete mess, saw transport with the flags of Turkey and the states together, we are missing something, we don’t need this, it seems they will change the ethno-geographical map of Syria, ????? ? Again striped ???

      Most likely Sunites from Turkey will be introduced into the place of the Kurds.
  34. Lexus
    Lexus 9 October 2019 21: 52
    -2
    It is interesting how the Turks will behave with the controlled by SAA El-Kamyshly, which is located on the border.
    1. protoss
      protoss 9 October 2019 22: 12
      0
      as well as saa with a Turkish opornik in a sailor. alaverdi
    2. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 18
      +2
      They will not go there, they have long stated. The Turks always emphasize that they are not fighting against Syria and the authorities. Actually, they always avoid that there is no direct clash with the official forces of Syria.
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 9 October 2019 23: 21
        -2
        After all, there will be provocateurs ...
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 24
          0
          In any case, they will not stop by, and everyone knows about it, the Syrian authorities too. Turkish officers and soldiers are disciplined - what they order, they carry out, no more, no less.
      2. The comment was deleted.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 39
          0
          And why did you copy so much text that everyone knows? And what, Assad’s troops bombed? NO, as this was a reaction to those events, so as not to happen again.
          1. Town Hall
            Town Hall 9 October 2019 23: 40
            +1
            I hate propagandists)
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 45
              0
              I also do not like slanderers who think with such a logic that I will throw in the mud, if it does not stick, then at least a trace will remain.
          2. Town Hall
            Town Hall 9 October 2019 23: 42
            +1
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            And why did you copy so much text that everyone knows? And what, Assad’s troops bombed? NO, as this was a reaction to those events, so as not to happen again.

            Lying is bad.

            Politics, Jun 28, 13:24
            Turkish army attacks Syrian army in response to shelling in Idlib

            The Turkish military attacked the positions of the Syrian army after the Turkish observation post in the Idlib de-escalation zone was shelled. This was reported by Anadolu agency with reference to a statement by the Turkish Ministry of Defense.

            The statement said that Turkish artillery and armored vehicles inflicted an “effective blow” on the positions of supporters of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

            The military attache of Russia in Ankara was informed about the incident. The agency informed Moscow that Turkey was ready to give the “toughest answer” to the shelling of observers in Idlib, the agency said
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 48
              0
              "The Turkish military attacked the positions of the Syrian army after the Turkish observation post in the de-escalation zone of Idlib came under fire." Themselves answered. I did not say that the Turks do not respond to provocations. I said that the Turks avoid clashes with government troops. Do you understand the difference?
              1. Town Hall
                Town Hall 9 October 2019 23: 51
                +1
                Propaganda bitter bread. We have to dodge 7 Fridays a week)
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 59
                  0
                  If you do not understand such a clear answer, then I can no longer help. I am not a propagandist, for what they got it)))
      3. Town Hall
        Town Hall 9 October 2019 23: 34
        +1
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        They will not go there, they have long stated. The Turks always emphasize that they are not fighting against Syria and the authorities. Actually, they always avoid that there is no direct clash with the official forces of Syria.

        26 September 2018, 12: 44
        Erdogan: Peace in Syria is impossible while Assad is in power
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 9 October 2019 23: 40
          0
          AND? Did they attack Assad? No. Suffering heh ..
          1. Town Hall
            Town Hall 9 October 2019 23: 45
            +1
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            AND? Did they attack Assad? No. Suffering heh ..

            Confused in propaganda You are a friend)
            28 June

            Turkish army attacks Syrian army in response to shelling in Idlib
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 10 October 2019 00: 09
              0
              "in response" Read at least what you copy-paste)
          2. Aleksandr21
            Aleksandr21 10 October 2019 07: 35
            0
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            AND? Did they attack Assad? No. Suffering heh ..


            Take an interest in where the supplies of weapons and people come from to the SSA militants. And what are the tasks of the FSA in Syria and with whom it is fighting, and then write that Turkey is not fighting against Syria. The war has been going on for a long time, but it is hybrid - Turkey trains and supplies the militants, and they, in turn, are already fighting against the SA.