The latest radios "Niobium-SV" cover the Crimea and the south of Russia

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The Russian Ministry of Defense has decided to cover the south of the country and the Crimean peninsula with the latest Niobium-SV radars. The first production radars should go to the air defense units of the Ground Forces of the Southern Military District by the end of this year. This is reported "News" with reference to the military department.

The latest radios "Niobium-SV" cover the Crimea and the south of Russia




The first batch of serial Niobium-SV radars will arrive in the Southern Military District by the end of this year. The main task of the new radars is to protect the south of the country and the Crimean peninsula from a possible threat of US missile defense systems in Romania, which were created in order to hide ground-based offensive systems aimed at Russia under the guise of "protection against the Iranian threat."

The new three-coordinate radar station "Niobium-SV" was created specifically for the air defense of the Ground Forces. The main task is to detect, track and determine the ownership of air objects of all types - aircraft, helicopters, cruise and ballistic missiles, as well as drones. The stations operate in the meter range and perfectly "see" the American "stealth". The radars are mobile, located on the KamAZ chassis and can operate around the clock for a long time.

According to the military, the deployment of several Niobium-SV stations on the Crimean peninsula will allow controlling the entire Black Sea, while the radars located in the south will cover the entire southern direction of Russia.

As previously reported, the 1L125 "Niobium-SV" meter-range standby radar was developed by the Federal Research and Production Center Nizhny Novgorod Research Institute of Radio Engineering JSC (NNIIRT), which is part of the Almaz-Antey Air and Space Defense Concern JSC . The first prototypes of the latest radar were delivered to the air defense units of the Central Military District for pilot operation.

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  1. -32
    9 October 2019 14: 23
    Radars of a meter range, it’s good to detect stealths, only there is little sense in such detection, GOS anti-aircraft missiles cannot be in a meter range, they work just in the see range and they can’t stealth or can but at a short distance. The meaning of these radars is to raise interceptor planes in time, but they will also use missiles with GOS see range. So the advantages of stealth technologies at this stage are not in doubt. We look forward to detecting a new generation, orofar or something else.
    1. +23
      9 October 2019 14: 45
      In fact, meter long radars can detect and direct missiles to active capture in cm, and then in the optical range. It's alright
      1. -9
        9 October 2019 14: 47
        Please tell us which missiles can direct the Niobium-SV?
        1. +3
          9 October 2019 14: 48
          The main thing is that it is in principle possible, and development does not stop at "Niobium"
          1. -9
            9 October 2019 14: 49
            Well, since you do not answer my question, I will answer myself - no
            1. +5
              9 October 2019 14: 50
              No word accepted, anything is possible
              1. +2
                9 October 2019 14: 52
                The main thing is not to stop and conceptually always be ahead, that is the question. And not without engines before the outbreak of war
              2. -8
                9 October 2019 14: 52
                everything is possible in this life, I do not argue, but to direct missiles using a meter range radar, including "Niobium-SV", at the moment it does not work, when it will be, then we will be glad
                1. 0
                  9 October 2019 14: 53
                  I agree with that
                  1. +1
                    9 October 2019 21: 04
                    Something, it reminds me to tears of my dear P - 18, but it has grown pretty much.
                    1. 0
                      27 October 2019 21: 26
                      No wonder. 1RL131 (P18) - 1L13 (NEBO-SV) - 1L125 (Niobium-SV), approximately the development was carried out.
                      1. 0
                        27 October 2019 22: 19
                        Then it is clear. Interestingly, the P - 18s are still in service or are they already retired?
                2. +11
                  9 October 2019 15: 25
                  Quote: _Ugene_
                  everything is possible in this life, I do not argue, but at the moment it is not possible to direct missiles using a meter-range radar, including the Niobium-SV

                  Inflict missiles with radar OVTS - yes. impossible.
                  But to direct the missile defense system with ARLGSN based on data from the OVTs radar station is quite possible. Otherwise, the same 40N6 would not "look beyond the horizon" - after all, the divisional radar does not see these targets.
                  In principle, the concept of the operation of a long-range missile with ARLGSN has been worked out for a long time on the RVV: launching the rocket into the target area at the range of the GOS capture using ANN + RKTU for operational correction of the trajectory according to external data.
                  1. -5
                    9 October 2019 15: 27
                    Well, what does Niobium-SV have to do with it? the article is about her, but she does not lead anywhere
                3. +2
                  9 October 2019 15: 28
                  oh, to direct missiles using a meter range radar, including Niobium-SV

                  Damn eksperdy, what are you discussing?
                  Do you even understand how air defense works and what radars are designed for?
                  No rockets, Niobium can not point at anything either at stealth or at bombers with tens of square meters of eop.
                  And it's not about stealth - it's just not intended for this.
                  1. +4
                    9 October 2019 16: 40
                    Quote: bk316
                    No rockets, Niobium can not point at anything either at stealth or at bombers with tens of square meters of eop.

                    So this is exactly what we are discussing - as it were, on the basis of data from the OVC radar, it is possible to manage to direct missiles at a target that the divisional radar does not see. smile Somehow they were able to organize overseas work for 40H6.
                    1. +3
                      9 October 2019 19: 50
                      So this is exactly what we are discussing - as it were, on the basis of data from the OVC radar, it is possible to manage to direct missiles at a target that the divisional radar does not see.

                      But in any case, this is the duty radar on her one task - at the right time to transfer air defense systems to combat mode.
                      It’s like a missile defense system and missile defense system, if it is not clear, well, it doesn’t launch an anti-missile defense system anywhere. belay What is worse from this?
                      You don’t understand that you have a discussion of the class: aircraft carriers do not crawl through the mountains - here are some Americans suckers who couldn’t make crawling aircraft carriers, but even our tanks can do it - and how will they attack Omsk with these aircraft carriers?
                      1. +1
                        10 October 2019 13: 19
                        Quote: bk316
                        It’s like a missile defense system and missile defense system, if it is not clear, well, it doesn’t launch an anti-missile defense system anywhere.

                        So no one says that the OVC radar directly (or the air defense control system cabin, but exclusively according to this OVC radar) displays the missiles on the RCTU exactly to the target, on the range of the radio fuse.
                        A slightly different situation is being considered: the radar doesn’t see the target. He doesn’t see at all. But at the launchers at the launchers are SAMs with ARLGSN, which can work for an unobservable purpose (including over the radio horizon). Question: can the control cabin according to data from external sources (RTB-shnye radar OVTs, including "Niobium", AWACS, neighboring divisions) to launch the missile defense system and, adjusting its trajectory by means of the RKTU, bring this missile defense system into the target area at the range of the onboard ARLGSN missile defense system? That is, not exactly on target, as in the first case, but into an area with a radius of ten kilometers from the target - and then let ARLGSN plow. smile
                4. +1
                  10 October 2019 03: 54
                  Radar stations of the meter range (including "Niobium") do not aim, but can give target designation to anti-aircraft missile systems and fighter aircraft. An anti-aircraft missile with an active RLGSN in radio command guidance mode is displayed in the area of ​​the detected target until self-capture by the active head.
                  The same method is used to take the fighter to the target zone with the IA - navigator, and the fighter already captures it or the radar or the radar and hits it.
                  Do not confuse air monitoring duty stations with air defense missile guidance stations.
            2. 0
              9 October 2019 16: 49
              Never say never. Shake it off, people know what they’re saying.
        2. 0
          9 October 2019 14: 49
          It would not be bad, let them dance later.
        3. +4
          9 October 2019 14: 53
          According to its characteristics, station 1L125 Niobium-SV is capable of detecting an inconspicuous air object (EPR = 1 square meter) at an altitude of 10000 meters at a distance of 230 kilometers, at an altitude of 500 meters at a distance of 53 kilometers. The radar has a field of view at a range of up to 500 kilometers and in height - up to 65 kilometers. The maximum speed of the tracked target is 5400 km / h. The radar is mounted on the chassis of a 4-axle KamAZ and is transferred from traveling to combat position in 15 minutes. We also add that this radar is designed for long-term operation (capable of being on combat duty for months).
          1. -2
            9 October 2019 17: 45
            You spartanez300 write: quote
            According to its characteristics, the station 1L125 Niobium-SV is able to detect a barely noticeable air object (EPR = 1 square meter)

            You _ugene_ write
            Well, where does Niobium-SV? ... but she’s not leading anything anywhere ...

            As a radio engineer, I’ll clarify:
            —- In order for the radar to reliably “see” something, the target cannot be radiolucent. It should contain a geometrically significant metal structure.
            ——This construction with dimensions (in the most probable plane of encounter with radar radiation ... “metal size”) ... should be of the order of 5-10 times the radar wavelength .... and the stronger the electronic warfare - the more desirable that the target be significantly longer radar wavelength. With metal dimensions of the target equal to or less than this, the radar wavelength - the target is invisible
            -So all that metal size approaches the radar wavelength - this radar is invisible. The "smaller" the target is "metal size", the less noticeable it is.
            —- EPR matters only if the radar can “see” the target (see above). Therefore, with equal EPR, the “metal-larger" goal is more noticeable than the "smaller" goal.

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            —-_ ugene_ rights: "..Niobiy-SV belongs to the class of standby radars, which are designed to detect, track and determine nationality." Not for aiming or identifying the type of target (SU-35 or TU-169 for example). Using this radar to guide missiles is like shooting milk at random.
            —This radar will not “see” anything “small” less than 2-3 meters, with the exception of the EPR generator at the radar wavelength. Niobium-SV is blind to small targets.
            —- Ideologically, Niobium-SV is the old Soviet system of the 80s, one of the blocks of the multi-level subsystem of the radar (operational) air defense of the territory ... With improved signal processing algorithms ... energy, angular and altitude characteristics ... reliability.
        4. +8
          9 October 2019 15: 25
          What kind of missiles can Niobium-SV target?

          rather, issue an 300 control unit to the control system
          but the ACS is associated with various radars: Sky, Niobium, Gamma, Enemy, etc.
          ACS classifies goals, identifies the most dangerous and priority ones and takes 500 to support
          and also issues the 225 control center between the various air defense systems
          and as the channels are released, after the ARGSN missile systems are captured, the ACS updates the tracking and issuing map
        5. 0
          9 October 2019 16: 30
          Most importantly, they can transmit information to the command post, and they, in turn, to the air defense system.
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    3. +5
      9 October 2019 14: 49
      Quote: _Ugene_
      So the advantages of stealth technologies at this stage are beyond doubt

      The advantage of stealth technology was at the stage of their "demonstrator" - "Lame Goblin". But its invisibility was bought at the price of disgusting aerodynamics and the possibility of using it only as a bomber (despite the letter F in the model name).
      The current 5th generation fighters are more subtle than invisible. So ARLGSN SAM or RVV with the exact withdrawal to the target area (RKTU) can give a capture. And the data for the correction of the missile trajectory (coordinates, course and speed of the target) will be precisely provided by the OVC radar of the meter range.
      As for "Spirit", there is always a present for it from the IC GOS. Fortunately, there is no need to engage in air combat with him.
      1. 0
        9 October 2019 14: 56
        “Spirit,” you can calmly shoot from a cannon. Nefig spend rockets on him!
      2. -5
        9 October 2019 14: 57
        There are no serial anti-aircraft missiles with combined radar and infrared seeker. And to capture the target of the infrared seeker from at least 50 kilometers is a utopia. There were attempts to create a missile with radio command guidance and an infrared seeker for homing at the last stage. They failed.
        At the same time, for example, the ALARM anti-radar missile with a passive homing radar has a maximum firing range in direct attack mode of about 93 km. This is the question of the survivability of these radars against stealth.
        1. +1
          9 October 2019 15: 16
          Quote: _Ugene_
          There are no serial anti-aircraft missiles with combined radar and infrared seeker.

          There is fighter aircraft - you wrote about it:
          Quote: _Ugene_
          The meaning of these radars is to raise interceptor planes in time, but they will also use missiles with GOS, see range.

          And the IA just has a RVV with IR GOS.
          1. -2
            9 October 2019 15: 19
            be careful, I wrote "There are no serial anti-aircraft missiles with a combined radar and IR seeker. "
            An anti-aircraft missile is a ground-to-air missile
            And the infrared seeker has too short a range, if the enemy’s explosive missiles are successfully guided by the radar seeker, and ours can only use the infrared seeker, the battle is lost before it starts
            1. +1
              9 October 2019 15: 36
              Quote: _Ugene_
              be careful, I wrote "There are no serial anti-aircraft missiles with a combined radar and IR seeker."

              Right. I forgot to clarify that it is the fighters that will have to work on the "Spirits" - since only they can intercept bombers far from the target and only they have missiles with IR seeker.
              1. 0
                9 October 2019 18: 59
                Something tells me that this family of mobile "Niobies" will be more interested not in the surface of the World Cup, but will look at Ukraine to the operational depth ... good
                And then :: somehow the three-coordinateness of this station does not fit with its overview functions.
    4. 0
      9 October 2019 15: 32
      This is the air defense radar of the Ground Forces, do not confuse it with the radar of object air defense - they have completely different tasks. And goals))
    5. +3
      9 October 2019 16: 04
      _Ugene_ This is the SSC, the logical development of the P-12, P-18 family. They are solely for reconnaissance and target designation, and not for illuminating targets, with the aim of guiding missiles. If you are not in the subject of the structure of air defense systems, then do not write nonsense!

      ...
      We would be like that, in 1980, when I was chasing the "blackbird" in my P-12, in the Pskov region ...
      By the way, it was the P-18 that helped bring down the F-117 in the former Yugoslavia.
      And the missiles are semi-active nonchecked, they only blink a ray, and then they themselves.
      1. +1
        9 October 2019 16: 12
        I wrote in the very first message
        The meaning of these radars is to raise interceptor aircraft in time
        1. +1
          9 October 2019 21: 08
          Yes, I see. But then they started for a completely different health ..
          However, okay, no offense. ;)
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    7. 0
      10 October 2019 12: 42
      Most likely the radar data will work as a long-range reconnaissance of airspace and the issuance of information where necessary in the ACS. This requires reliable communication channels and software.
  2. 0
    9 October 2019 14: 59
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: _Ugene_
    So the advantages of stealth technologies at this stage are beyond doubt

    The advantage of stealth technology was at the stage of their "demonstrator" - "Lame Goblin". But its invisibility was bought at the price of disgusting aerodynamics and the possibility of using it only as a bomber (despite the letter F in the model name).
    The current 5th generation fighters are more subtle than invisible. So ARLGSN SAM or RVV with the exact withdrawal to the target area (RKTU) can give a capture. And the data for the correction of the missile trajectory (coordinates, course and speed of the target) will be precisely provided by the OVC radar of the meter range.
    As for "Spirit", there is always a present for it from the IC GOS. Fortunately, there is no need to engage in air combat with him.

    generally launching a "spirit" striped will be prohibitively expensive. The loss of each spirit will be irreparable))
  3. +3
    9 October 2019 15: 15
    So, I did not understand - why is the army air defense engaged in the affairs of the country's air defense?
    "Niobium-SV" is a modification of the air defense-shny "Niobium" for the ground forces (letters SV seem to hint). And the air defense troops have their own "Niobium" - with an antenna post on a semi-trailer.

    And, in theory, the protection of the country's air borders is precisely the task of the air defense forces. The air defense of the ground forces has a different task - the air defense of the armed forces (formations on the march, in the offensive and defense, as well as defense lines).
    1. +2
      9 October 2019 16: 07
      The only difference is mobility. In Crimea, it will not be superfluous. There will be time, hospitals will put ...
      1. +1
        9 October 2019 16: 45
        Quote: Al_lexx
        The only difference is mobility.

        The difference to begin with is subordination. The country's air defense is part of the air forces. And army air defense - to the Ground Forces. These are two parallel structures, each of which is imprisoned for the performance of its tasks and is subordinate to its superiors.
        It’s like using the Navy to guard the border.
    2. +1
      9 October 2019 16: 31
      One does not interfere with the other, but rather helps.

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