Again, the Russians are coming. The militarization of consciousness

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Patriots squared


There is nothing more interesting than finding out news about the totally increased power of the Russian army from familiar foreigners. Not those that were born and raised in some Western European outback and just happened to meet on your way, but those who were born in the USSR, but by chance, and there were many such cases in the 80 of the last century, suddenly remembered his genes grandfathers or great-grandfathers and suddenly became a German, Finn, Pole, Czech ... Moreover, a patriot in the square of his new homeland.





Today it is no longer distinguishable from the indigenous inhabitants of their countries, often changing their name and surname, as in this case, respectable middle-aged men. Even the Russian language, once native, today betrays a foreigner. Accent. Recently I happened to meet with two such Europeans, who were my schoolmates.

One, a German, a patriot of Germany and Ukraine to the marrow, although he has never been and is not going to Ukraine. It’s just that my mother was Ukrainian, and most of the new Europeans in his town, like him, come from Ukraine.

History the other is more complicated. This is a Russian-German Swede. He went to Germany. Divorced his wife and eventually married a Swede.

I’ll miss the conversations after the first (and remember?) And the second (I live normally, I raised children, I have a house, I have work, etc.). I will go straight to the "political part" and "the aggressiveness of myself and my country."

What are the representatives of the big Europe and small Europe agreed? Both spoke confidently about the aggressiveness and super preparedness of the Russian army. Moreover, the confidence that any Russian soldier today is Rambo with a two-headed eagle on his sleeve is complete. Even when I reminded the interlocutors of their service in the Soviet Army and the degree of their training then, this confidence remained.

Rambo in cube


Yes, a Russian soldier is serving a year today. But thanks to the secret developments of the Russian special services, the training of the soldier is proceeding at such a pace that from the frail "nerd" this year we get a ready-to-use commando capable of waging war on any enemy alone. What can I say, only thanks to our media for stories about the modern army.

Arguments like the fact that modern young people do not differ much in physical and moral qualities in Russia and Europe were completely dismissed. Moreover, the main counterargument was ... the actions of our troops in Syria and ... in Ukraine. Heroism and readiness for self-sacrifice were blamed on us! “Russians always win the war with great blood.” "A soldier commits a feat because he is afraid of punishment in case of failure to comply with the order."

Following. Russia has always violated international disarmament and arms limitation treaties. In particular, the last treaty that we broke (!), Meaning the INF Treaty, was broken only because Moscow had new weapons - hypersonic missiles.

By the way, the successes of the RF Armed Forces in Syria are also associated with a new secret weapons. It was this weapon that effectively neutralized American weapons! This alone explains the fact that the United States today requires Europe to increase its allotment for NATO maintenance. Europe is defenseless against Russia's weapons, even in alliance with the great United States!

There are more conclusions. Based on personal observations in the former homeland. Russia is militarizing! We are becoming a soldier country! An explanation is needed here. In Soviet times, there were two military schools in our city - combined arms and tank. During the period of military reforms, the combined arms school was closed, and the tank school became a branch of the material support academy.

On the site of the combined arms school, it was decided to revive the cadet corps. The fact is that this corps was still in tsarist times. And among his graduates there are truly outstanding people. It is enough to recall Mikhail Frunze, Valerian Kuibyshev, General Lavr Karnilov, General Dmitry Karbyshev. Even the famous sculptor, whose St. Petersburg horses are known throughout the world, Peter Klodt, studied in this building.

In general, the list of those who studied and became the pride of the Russian Empire, the USSR and modern Russia is huge. 19 cavaliers of the Order of St. George awarded the St. George Arms, 37 cavaliers of the Order of St. George, 79 Heroes of the Order of the Glory, 5 cavaliers of the Order of Glory, 7 Heroes of the Russian Federation, 4 cavaliers of 3 Orders of Courage. Marshals, generals, scientists, statesmen, scouts ...

It was this cadet corps that was the discovery for Europeans. More precisely, evidence of the militarization of society. Moreover, he was the proof that the Russian army is preparing Rambo! The corps is an airborne assault force and the corps commander is Colonel of the Airborne Forces. Yes, and the Hero of the Soviet Union! A simple "rambo soldier" is being prepared near the city. At the 242 Airborne Training Center. He, too, was not in Soviet times.

What is your evidence?


To be honest, the conversation left me with a double impression. On the one hand, it is clear that in Europe there is a developed and powerful system for processing the brains of ordinary people. But on the other hand, it somehow does not fit with the fact that my interlocutors were brought up by the Soviet system, served in the Soviet Army, and lived in the USSR. An adult does not often change his beliefs. Especially based on personal experience.

I received the answer to this question from the “new Swede”. It was he who brought a bunch of "evidence of Russia's aggressive actions" against Northern Europe and the Baltic countries.

First of all, the inhabitants of this region are extremely peaceful people. These are angels in the flesh, who, in their thoughts, do not fight with anyone. And all the war games that they hold constantly are just a search for answers to the speedy aggression of the Russian Federation. Moreover, the confidence that aggression will be absolute. True, to my question “Why do we need the Baltic States and Northern Europe?” I did not hear an answer. Some kind of babble about getting out of the Baltic Sea and that’s it.

First of all, the Russians jam GPS signals during NATO exercises along the coast, which creates unbearable conditions for fishermen and sailors. And all the "shoals" that occur in the exercises are from the Russians. Sailors and marines cripple and even die through the fault of the Russians.

Along the coast of Sweden constantly go Russian "invisible to the detection means" submarines and ... spoil the fishing nets (!). Fishermen are constantly reporting to local media about such boats. A boat with nuclear weapons is on duty even near the capital. By the way, I remembered this story five years ago. Then, in the fall of 2014, the Swedes all over the world really caught this boat. About 3 million dollars spent. And in the spring in the spring of 2015 they still caught ... a civilian fishing vessel.

Further. On the territory of all the states of Northern Europe and the Baltic there are constantly special forces units of Russia. The last case, which is widely discussed in Sweden, is the Russian special forces on Svalbard. Special Forces, which was seen by almost all the inhabitants of this island. Given the "densely populated", of course. But at the same time, successfully hiding from the army and police of Norway.

Of course, I understand that at the end of the year, when the parliaments of various countries approve the next budget, including the military, of their states, such horror stories will appear. And appear in huge quantities. The military needs to eat. And appetites are growing. But this is not about big politics, but about ordinary citizens.

The conviction of my interlocutors of their own righteousness and the apparent unwillingness to agree with elementary logical conclusions are scary. People are simply confident in the imminent future war. The confidence of the doomed? Understanding the inevitability of war?

For some reason I remembered Ilf and Petrov. Remember the story of a large communal apartment number 3, "Crow's Creek"? Remember the scene when Vasisualia Lokhankin was flogged?

“And then Vasisualii was silent for a moment. “Maybe it’s necessary,” he thought, twitching from the blows and examining Nikita’s dark, armored toenails. “Maybe this is the atonement, the cleansing, the great sacrifice ...”

But the end of Raven's Settlement was sad. As well as the end of our communication with my former comrades in the Soviet school, in the Soviet past. After many years, we found ourselves on the opposite sides of world history, and perhaps civilization in general.

No matter what they say to us about diplomacy, about the possibility of reaching an agreement, about common sense, finally, after the meeting, I once again became convinced of a simple and well-known truth: powder must be kept dry.
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  1. -8
    8 October 2019 15: 15
    There is nothing more interesting than learning the news about the totally increased power of the Russian army from familiar foreigners.

    There, over the hill, they see everything differently .. especially there are many supporters of the current government abroad .. with foaming at the mouth they tell from the USA or Germany how to live in Russia is getting better .. It just touches .. lives over the hill and admires " Great breakthroughs. " And propaganda works everywhere and it is important to learn how to separate flies from cutlets .. In the West they don’t bother with this, they hear, they take it for granted, but here, after so many "scams", many have already learned to distinguish truth from fiction ...
    1. -2
      8 October 2019 15: 22
      Well, it's worse for you, of course. You often sin with this. "Always cheatingulimafia" ... This is your corporate style. "Komunyaki pride" and the order, respectively, "navide". Not everything is as small as you draw here. Life has become more difficult, the sanctions are also not fools announced. And it will be better if the country does a lot for this. Whining ... well, that's to your taste. YOU WILL NOT FIND PARKING IN YARD.
      1. -1
        8 October 2019 15: 25
        Quote: tracer
        Life has become harder

        Well, at least you do not deny it ..
        Quote: tracer
        And it will be better if the country does a lot for this.

        How much longer do you think is left? And what they’ve done for this .. personally, I don’t even see a hint that it will be better, but what gets worse every year, you even noticed that ..
        sanctions are not fools either.

        It’s not fools who declare it ... and to those to whom they were announced, they haven’t yet suffered from them .. ordinary people suffer from sanctions because they put it on his shoulders .. and billionaires only get bigger ..
        1. +1
          8 October 2019 15: 30
          Watching what to expect. Freebies and balls will never be, fruit baskets in bed is also unlikely. Expectations must be real. In addition, do not forget Russia is a northern country and everything is absolutely, everything will be more expensive and more difficult to manufacture and more energy intensive.
          1. -2
            8 October 2019 15: 37
            Quote: tracer
            In addition, do not forget Russia is a northern country and everything is absolutely, everything will be more expensive and more difficult to manufacture and more energy intensive.

            I noticed .. a new feature in the Kremlin’s defenders, Russia is a northern country .. that’s why everything will be more expensive and therefore we can’t compete with the southern countries .. laughing
            This is ridiculous .. or rather, sadly, they are trying to put another myth into the heads of the population in order to justify their mediocrity ..
            For some reason, China manages to buy our natural resources, make a product from them and sell it, sell to us .. There used to be a mantra that this happens because of cheap slave power in China, and this justified the inability to do something ourselves .. but now everything they know that as early as 5 years, in Russia the work force is doubled, and somewhere is three times cheaper than in China .. but now it turns out that the climate is in the way .. Stalin didn’t interfere, but everything prevents our liberals .. and the people are not the same climate..
            1. +1
              8 October 2019 15: 43
              Sorry, but you really lack knowledge in economics. This is probably due to education. You do not even approximately represent the cost structure of any marketable products. A .. CHINA ... So if you look at the map. You will notice such a green more or less flat part of China. So on this territory, such a favorable and mild climate allows you to take several rice crops a year and is able to feed a billion people. In our north, potatoes do not always ripen well ... You have no arguments.
              1. -2
                8 October 2019 15: 47
                Quote: tracer
                and a mild climate that allows you to take several rice crops a year and is able to feed a billion people. In our north, potatoes do not always ripen well ... You have no arguments.

                I'm not talking about potatoes with rice laughing Do you think it's time to buy potato and rice in China? Strong argument.
                1. 0
                  8 October 2019 15: 49
                  No, you categorically do not even closely understand what you are trying to talk about. Funny even. This is not your level do not waste time.
                  1. +5
                    8 October 2019 16: 35
                    No matter what they say to us about diplomacy, about the possibility of reaching an agreement, about common sense, finally, after the meeting, I once again became convinced of a simple and well-known truth: gunpowder must be kept dry.

                    Gold words! Gunpowder must be kept dry!
                    And you still need to have him adequately thinking head on its use!
                    This has never bothered anyone.
                    1. +4
                      8 October 2019 21: 16
                      What's this? You have such a sport in Europe
                      Or a hobby that suddenly became paranoia:
                      Twice a century, go to war with us,
                      To get in the end on the wort?

                      Well this, brothers, is just masochism:
                      Poke your nose where on the hill! ..
                      Well, if so, then any whim
                      At your request, "pigeons"!

                      But Yaroslavich preempted,
                      And your Frederick appealed to the descendant:
                      Do not meddle, they say, since no one called you ...
                      Yes, a lot of people .., but all to no avail.

                      And you all rush into our Kalashny row
                      With his zelo blue-headed snout
                      Ile, as people say,
                      I beg your pardon, in the ass without soap!

                      And you all rush, the armies have no edge,
                      Threaten everything with a rusty horn ...

                      So let's get out of the gate and with God!
                      A step, a step for the Bug, Beresen ...
                      And then it’s not long to sin!
                      Sing about an armored train? Not necessary?
                      Oh well...
                      Alexander Shatilov
            2. +4
              8 October 2019 16: 09
              In China, labor in agriculture is not just cheaper, but much cheaper than ours. China's poverty line is 6 yuan per day, that is, about one US dollar. Yes, indeed, the salaries of large Chinese state-owned corporations and infrastructure enterprises exceed ours. But for small and medium-sized enterprises this is far from the case. The competition for a job on the Chinese railways, where they pay real money, about 20 applicants for a place, this suggests that not everything is so good in the kingdom of China. Plus a 12-hour working day at many enterprises, multiplied by ant industriousness.
              The climate did not bother Stalin, just as Khrushchev did not bother planting corn in the Arctic. But we almost did not create a product competitive on the world market either - mainly for domestic consumption and for exporting satellites.
              1. -3
                8 October 2019 16: 17
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                The climate did not bother Stalin, just as Khrushchev did not bother planting corn in the Arctic. But we almost did not create a product competitive on the world market either - mainly for domestic consumption and for exporting satellites.

                And how did we become then the second economy of the world? We discussed this with you ... the USSR was completely self-sufficient and produced everything from cowards to airplanes .. and all that we created was quite competitive and of high quality. The question is that the USSR CREATED .. and Russia does not create anything and the Kremlin defenders are trying to find a lot of excuses why nothing can be created in Russia .. sanctions, climate, people are not the same .. in general everything interferes .. and under the USSR, the climate is warmer was or was there no sanction?
                1. +4
                  8 October 2019 16: 43
                  Quote: Svarog
                  I noticed .. a new feature in the Kremlin’s defenders, Russia is a northern country .. that’s why everything will be more expensive and therefore we can’t compete with the southern countries ..

                  Quote: Svarog
                  Now it turns out that the climate is in the way .. Stalin was not in the way, but everything is in the way of our liberals .. and the people are not the same and the climate ..

                  Quote: Svarog
                  And how did we become then the second economy of the world?

                  Quote: Svarog
                  and under the USSR, that the climate was warmer or there were no sanctions?

                  Vladimir, well, you’re just getting nuts, how surprised you are now ...

                  Don't you see the difference between the systems in the Russian Federation and the USSR, especially the Stalinist period? This time. Secondly, what does the "Kremlin defenders" have to do with it if this is a question of four arithmetic operations? How can you not understand that in any production of a high conversion cost will be invested in heating? Heating everything: buildings, cars, people. Is it really necessary to tell that we have an average heating season for six months?

                  How did we become the second largest economy in the world? The system was socialist, moreover, the main successes were laid in the period of the Stalinist Method of Increasing the Efficiency (MPE) of the economy, and everything that went further was due to the inertia of that backlog.
                  1. -2
                    8 October 2019 16: 56
                    Quote: McAr
                    You don’t see the difference between the ranks in the Russian Federation and the USSR, especially the Stalin period

                    Of course I see and try to make my opponent understand this ... what exactly is the future of socialism.
                    Quote: McAr
                    How can you not understand that in any production of high processing, the costs of heating will be invested?

                    Very simple .. We do not need to buy energy for expensive .. unlike many countries where it is not enough .. the same is China. Own oil, own gas, own electricity .. There are rivers, there is uranium .. And this means that if prices are regulated, heating costs will be minimized and the final product will not be higher than that of a competitor. After all, when we sell oil, we are laying a margin there, plus transportation .. and it is clear that the energy resources that we sell over the hill should be much cheaper for us, which compensates for the difference in climate. In other words, the presence of natural resources in our territory significantly compensates for the difference in climate and the lack of these resources in countries with a mild climate makes their product less competitive. But our natural resources need to be able to competently manage ...
                    1. +5
                      8 October 2019 17: 08
                      Quote: Svarog
                      We do not need to buy energy for expensive .. unlike many countries where it is not enough

                      No need WILL. When the system becomes socialist. AND when will it become so? ... When the oligarchs line up to socialize everything honestly stolen from the people, when they surrender all their trillions to the national treasury, when they start living on the average salary in the country and transfer to Zhiguli. We’ll discuss the approximate date when this will happen?

                      Quote: Svarog
                      Own oil, own gas, own electricity

                    2. 0
                      8 October 2019 17: 19
                      Well, finally, something sensible flashed. In my opinion, the more energy carriers remain in the country, the greater the level of energy consumption per person. The higher his standard of living. The truth is in theory. In practice, it’s not quite so. Export is a huge part of the budget. To ultimately be able to purchase exactly what Russia lacks. And the ruble is not a sovereign currency at all. And this is the basis of the basics. EXACTLY FOR THIS REASON (MY VERSION RUSSIA IS BUYING GOLD AT STRONG PACES).
                    3. +2
                      9 October 2019 05: 49
                      It was precisely on the increase in the price of energy resources in the nineties that our Western "partners" pressed on, otherwise the "Soviet economy" survived and the actions of the liberals became clearly treacherous, the Yeltsinists tried to prevent this by any means, including the Caucasian war ..
                  2. +1
                    8 October 2019 17: 03
                    Apparently, if you understand the essence of the processes, you are the Kremlin’s defender and Kremlin boat.
                  3. 0
                    9 October 2019 14: 30
                    Quote: McAr
                    How can you not understand that in any production of high processing, the costs of heating will be invested? Heated everything: buildings, cars, people. Is it really necessary to tell that we have an average heating season of six months?

                    enough of these fairy tales about heating, where heating is not needed, then you need to arrange an air conditioning and ventilation system ... which suddenly does not cost less.
                    1. -2
                      9 October 2019 16: 10
                      Quote: Arturov
                      enough of these fairy tales about heating, where heating is not needed, then you need to arrange an air conditioning and ventilation system ... which suddenly does not cost less.

                      Really ... this is also a good argument hi
                      1. -3
                        11 October 2019 13: 50
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Quote: Arturov
                        enough of these fairy tales about heating, where heating is not needed, then you need to arrange an air conditioning and ventilation system ... which suddenly does not cost less.

                        Really ... this is also a good argument hi

                        Do you want to say that somewhere in Shanghai, "scientists and power engineers", as well as in Novosibirsk, gather and discuss the problem of air conditioning and ventilation, because Shanghai "has a difficult summer ahead"?

                        https://topwar.ru/163420-novosibirsk-zhdet-tjazhelaja-zima.html
                2. +9
                  8 October 2019 16: 54
                  We were the second economy by gross. According to consumer goods: people were chasing after imports, from clothes to household appliances, it somehow characterizes the quality of our products, right? Aircraft competitiveness? Somehow we sold the Yak-40 to the Bundesnemts. After a couple of years, this airline-operator went bankrupt, fuel consumption was too indecent. Italians have the same picture. And in general, if in the late 50s and early 60s we went head to head with the world aviation industry, then the same Tu-154 was hopelessly behind in terms of fuel consumption and the range and payload associated with it. Primitive avionics and, as a result, a four-membered crew and the difficulty of piloting, also led to the fact that this aircraft did not appear on the world air transportation market. I’m retired from aviation by earning a hearing - a consequence of flights on the An-24/26. In the West, this machine didn’t pass the sanitary standards, although at the time of its creation, in general, it was on top. About our auto industry - without clinking glasses, how long could you keep the same reincarnations of Moskvich 408 and Fiat 124 on the assembly line? Shipbuilding - we made magnificent hulls, but power plants, to put it mildly, not really. Therefore, they bought MAN, Sulzer, Vyartsilya. Electronics? Well, let's say, also near the leading manufacturers and did not stand next to it.
                  And on the shaft - yes, second place.
                3. 0
                  8 October 2019 21: 18
                  And how did we become then the second economy of the world? We discussed this with you ... the USSR was completely self-sufficient and produced everything from cowards to airplanes .. and all that we created was quite competitive and of high quality.

                  As soon as the USSR began to sell resources abroad, so it began to lose ground ....
                  You have correctly cited China as an example. The climate is favorable - there is no need for centralized heating and half a meter of wall thickness in winter. I put a canopy and build a workshop and that’s all, no capital expenditures. Which is extremely beneficial for the cost of production. One BUT - there are few minerals. And without them, industry cannot be built. So you need to either buy or conquer them - there simply are no other options. And if China continues to be able to buy resources, it will remain the leader. To hinder China’s development and leadership, you need absolutely nothing — resource hunger.
                  Russia needs to get away from the sale of resources (products of low redistribution) and sell products only of high redistribution, which Stalin did. (as an example, not to drive oil abroad, but to sell gasoline). This was already under Khrushchev and Brezhnev’s resources flooded abroad - immediately making our products and the economy uncompetitive. And it is absolutely impossible to do this - is it like selling a kidney first, and then a lung, and then how to live?
                  And today's government is another generation of globalists, in which, in the world, industry was supposed to be transferred to the tropics, and resources were simply pumped from the north. (Although, mindfully, all the tropics should be given just for agriculture, and industry to the north) They are simply can no longer be reconstructed - people with non-globalist thinking are needed.
                  So it goes ....
                  1. -1
                    8 October 2019 21: 35
                    Quote: lucul
                    And how did we become then the second economy of the world? We discussed this with you ... the USSR was completely self-sufficient and produced everything from cowards to airplanes .. and all that we created was quite competitive and of high quality.

                    As soon as the USSR began to sell resources abroad, so it began to lose ground ....
                    You have correctly cited China as an example. The climate is favorable - there is no need for centralized heating and half a meter of wall thickness in winter. I put a canopy and build a workshop and that’s all, no capital expenditures. Which is extremely beneficial for the cost of production. One BUT - there are few minerals. And without them, industry cannot be built. So you need to either buy or conquer them - there simply are no other options. And if China continues to be able to buy resources, it will remain the leader. To hinder China’s development and leadership, you need absolutely nothing — resource hunger.
                    Russia needs to get away from the sale of resources (products of low redistribution) and sell products only of high redistribution, which Stalin did. (as an example, not to drive oil abroad, but to sell gasoline). This was already under Khrushchev and Brezhnev’s resources flooded abroad - immediately making our products and the economy uncompetitive. And it is absolutely impossible to do this - is it like selling a kidney first, and then a lung, and then how to live?
                    And today's government is another generation of globalists, in which, in the world, industry was supposed to be transferred to the tropics, and resources were simply pumped from the north. (Although, mindfully, all the tropics should be given just for agriculture, and industry to the north) They are simply can no longer be reconstructed - people with non-globalist thinking are needed.
                    So it goes ....

                    You described everything very correctly, the essence of my comments came down to just that, but you did better hi
        2. -1
          8 October 2019 15: 36
          Give examples of new billionaires. Come on .. Forbes personally writes to you. "I trade Svarog the list of billionaires in Russia in 2019". Give an example from the history of mankind where the government of any human civilization began to “suffer” faster than “the people.” It is very interesting .. and end the obvious writing “for all good against all bad”.
          1. -4
            8 October 2019 15: 43
            Quote: tracer
            and end the evidence to write "for all good versus all bad."

            So if for you, what I write is obvious, then you understand that this is true? And if you agree that this is true, then why are you trying to argue and convince? Do not you think that it is unnatural to go against the truth and yourself? laughing
            1. +2
              8 October 2019 15: 47
              You also misunderstand. You write banal stamps of a prosthetic perception of the world. I meant it.
      2. +3
        8 October 2019 16: 25
        Quote: tracer
        DO NOT FIND IN THE YARNS.

        Well, yes, life has become worse, nowhere to put the car! laughing wassat
        1. +3
          8 October 2019 20: 34
          I have a familiar owner / director of a small factory in the Northwest. Pure Swede.
          already 20 years in Russia. Now he is going to get the second Russian citizenship. I specifically ask him about the perception of Russian reality.
          He says that even seven or eight years ago there were urges to quit everything and go home with a Russian wife and children. And now no longer! Either he was reforging from the burgher, or he adapted, but, he says, now it has become interesting.
          Although the Russian mentality did not understand.
          As an example, I came to a consultation at the MFC on citizenship. They immediately say to him - according to our laws, you will have to refuse your Swedish citizenship!
          And right there (a specialist of the state center, by the way!) - well, you can send a postcard "Happy New Year" to your embassy, ​​and bring the receipt to us as proof that you renounced your citizenship.
          WHY, says, to come up with rules that no one is going to follow !?
          And this is just one example. But, in general, he likes living in Russia. And every year more and more (these are his words).
          This I mean that even people from there see the changes. And "ours" cannot be considered in any way)
          Also the spiral of our mentality.

          Like this joke:
          1. -1
            9 October 2019 15: 39
            I'll give you an example too. I have every right to do so. Because I know what I'm talking about from my own experience. Many peoples vrlotnyut by the will of fate, faced with Russian culture through the Russians, radically change their opinion about culture and about people and about Russia. Once a colleague at work in California (a former Marine) told me after the end of the project, "It would be difficult to fight with you." And I answered "you don't even imagine how .."
    2. 0
      9 October 2019 16: 07
      Why go far beyond the hill? You look carefully around and you will discover a completely new, brightly colored world of ours in which there are so many schizoids that you cannot even imagine. You are right propaganda is their EVERYTHING !!!!! And so think those brainwashed who did not get into a real batch in the war, and after the popalov they begin to see clearly, but by no means not all. If a person was born stubborn, then only the grave will correct the hunchback.
      Do you know the difference between a simple fool and a smart fool? Simple in its essence, it is harmless, but the smart one can teach its followers and this is the saddest thing, smart fools are not punched there by 5 fingers frontal armor.
      So that's what it is all for, I remember how the orange maidan (orange revolution) began when Mulka mutilated with a scythe and how in 2008 in Ukraine the nuts were tightened to the population of the dollar from 4 to 8 s / n down half and 4 days and then 3 days work week. Yanyk came a little easier, but not for long, and from Maidan 2013 there were no longer any illusions that Yanyk, Julia and others like them at the same time plunder the country, because tore everything that is possible and squeezed business from each other and so it could not continue for a long time since The conflict entered its climax as far back as 2004, and yes it was in 2004. I got into a meat grinder in 2014, I saw how they chopped at the airport from an airplane, and then Ilovaysky boiler if you tell all the adventures, more than one moonshine go away, and I don’t want to remember some things. So one stubborn worked with me, the peasant had already graduated from the higher military for fifty years with the union, he was a soldier himself, normal work was not poor, everything was normal, and when we were beaten by the Natsyks, it was separs, it was completely for Ukraine, although it’s a native of Russia what western propaganda does to people. As a result, when we restored our cities, it was tight and even now it’s not easier, but we live this body went to Ukraine for a long hryvnia, the result is a rogue with 2 children in my arms and I warned him about it, but he’s fine, I have it in the head does not fit. Yes, what’s there to say a native person spent time in the bushes returned and tears a fart for Ukraine Russia you see the aggressor and such millions of cheese and avocados his mother disappeared from store shelves, if they had lost gas, water, sewage for 2 months and there’s nothing to eat their empty heads would not even have thought to maidan. The only thought is where to find food than to warm up and feed those in need so that they would not die.
      Py. Sy. And now the information for consideration !!!!! When the GDP signed a decree recognizing LDNR passports followed by the issuance of Russian citizenship, crowds of banderlog pensioners rushed to look at LDNR for at least distant relatives who are registered for any money, send money for migrants, get passports for what? To get at least the minimum pension in the Russian Federation, because the pension in Ukraine is a maximum of 3-5 tons. without subsidies. Already from Ukraine even the food stopped being transported; collapse and poverty have already begun. I’m only afraid that we will feed the impoverished Europe again, giving the last thing that these creatures would live in civilization.
    3. 0
      11 October 2019 21: 45
      Do not be angry with them)))
      It's just that people love Russia. Some reasons forced them to leave her (this is life). But they always try to praise her, and it's hard to do over the hill.
  2. +2
    8 October 2019 15: 22
    Rats flee from the ship.
  3. +1
    8 October 2019 15: 30
    As a rule, neophytes are most frostbitten.
  4. +7
    8 October 2019 15: 38
    But on the other hand, it somehow does not fit with the fact that my interlocutors were brought up by the Soviet system, served in the Soviet Army, and lived in the USSR. An adult does not often change his beliefs. Especially based on personal experience.
    I do not think that they somehow forgot everything that happened, they rather remember, but since childhood, "Blue childhood dream" for them was life in the West, they wanted to become true "civilized Europeans" and when they rushed to the West, their dream came true, but Europe remained Europe, and as they were the grandchildren of the peasants and the sons of the proletariat, no more, no less. They were never recognized as their own, but in front of their former neighbors and schoolmates they pretend to be "gayropeans", we don’t remember everything Soviet, even Russian is clumsy in your presence, although after the third glass they begin to speak pure Russian with an admixture of obscene, and bawl songs of thieves. They were called and are called "renegades".
    1. +3
      8 October 2019 16: 28
      Quote: tihonmarine
      They were called and are called "renegades".

      No, it’s easier - traitors! And in the shower and in fact! hi
  5. +3
    8 October 2019 15: 41
    The reason is that not everyone can distinguish flies from cutlets. And among the vast majority who left them. Plus, they try to convince themselves and others about their cause.
  6. 0
    8 October 2019 15: 44
    One, a German, a patriot of Germany and Ukraine to the marrow, although he has never been and is not going to Ukraine. It’s just that my mother was Ukrainian, and most of the new Europeans in his town, like him, come from Ukraine.


    I know a couple of these individuals. Drive and drive, be healthy, not only in spring or autumn.
  7. 0
    8 October 2019 15: 51
    Moreover, a patriot in the square of his new homeland.

    Why are you amazed? An old thing - for example, "come in large numbers" you will never hear from the root. But a Muscovite in the second or first generation - "daddy's daddy"
  8. +3
    8 October 2019 15: 53
    The situation is dangerous. Highly! Described in the article is an afterburner in case of prepared preparations, and it is planned to unambiguously use WMD, because it is obviously impossible to handle the terrifying Russian army differently.
    I already wrote that the most likely scenario of a war with us is a biological attack. And the described mask (the Russians are terrible, invincible, they will destroy everyone) is prepared to prevent massive psychological problems in the "golden billion" after the mass destruction of "invincible Russians" in the most terrible ways.
    And since we don’t have a fighting bear ...
  9. +3
    8 October 2019 15: 54
    All those who left and left Russia to the West are to some extent traitors.
    And what else besides conviction can we expect from them.
    Condemning us remaining, thereby they justify themselves, their betrayal ....
    1. 0
      9 October 2019 11: 08
      It’s just that a man lives in a garbage dump, he sniffs and doesn’t stink. And the neighbor got out of the mud, washed and weaned. Here he comes back and says about the stink, tk. weaned from it, but the garbage can is sniffed and doesn’t stink to him ... Naturally offended by his garbage :)
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  11. 0
    8 October 2019 16: 07
    By the way, I remembered that a month ago the same Swede came to visit my "boss": he graduated from the Russian school, the Higher Yaroslavl School of Finance, who served 15 years in the army as the chief of finance of the division, then left for permanent residence in Sweden. He spoke Russian well, he was already "fucked up" and became European, but as the chef said after an hour of the feast, the raid of Europeanism faded.
  12. -2
    8 October 2019 16: 56
    ... Moscow has a new weapon - hypersonic missiles.

    And for a long time. As early as the shaggy year, the first artificial Earth satellite was put into orbit by a hypersonic rocket. Gagarin, like all other astronauts, flew on a hypersonic rocket. Woke up ...

  13. +2
    8 October 2019 17: 59
    The people of Europe have long and successfully been brainwashed. Europeans are no longer able to independently analyze the events, they simply consume what they are voiced by the media and TV. This is very beneficial for European politicians who, in the wake of Russophobia, allocate huge amounts of money for military spending. By the way, we also have the conviction that there will still be a military conflict. The only difference is that we ourselves come to this conclusion by analyzing the actions of NATO at our borders. Therefore, I agree with the author of the article: yes, the powder must be kept dry.
  14. -2
    8 October 2019 20: 11
    Alexander Staver wrote well, there is something to think about .. hi
    But when, in "co-authorship" with Skomorokhov .. It was something .. negative So much negativity and hatred towards "this country" ..
    Okay, we’ll think about how we will continue to live and defend ourselves. In the process, the war ahead is ahead and God forbid Russia, at least once in its history will serve as an observer.
    After all, they provoke constantly .. Well now we are not bastards and have learned a lot ..
  15. 0
    8 October 2019 23: 12
    There is no need to go far. Read comments on VO from far abroad, from Israel. They are accused of Chechen events, although they know only from the SNS, and in 2008, they know from the same place, and in Ukrainian events. Interestingly, originally from St. Petersburg, lives in Israel, and turns the keyboard inside out for Ukraine.
    1. 0
      9 October 2019 01: 33
      I am from afar .... Read mine. It depends on the person ... "Nobody but us" ... So
      1. 0
        9 October 2019 12: 24
        Colleague, hi , I did not mean you, I specifically wrote in detail ABOUT WHOM TO SPEAK. I think he understood me. "Where we are, there is Victory." hi
  16. -1
    9 October 2019 00: 45
    No matter what they say to us about diplomacy, about the possibility of reaching an agreement, about common sense, finally, after the meeting, I once again became convinced of a simple and well-known truth: powder must be kept dry.

    Gold words.


    Source: movie "White sun of the desert"
  17. 0
    9 October 2019 09: 47
    Well written. There are similar friends too. True ceased to communicate. It is impossible to talk normally with the mentally ill. A complete dislocation of the brain. It strains one thing: all this anti-Russian hysteria is swelling for a reason. As is the concentration of troops on our western borders. God grant that I was wrong ....
  18. 0
    9 October 2019 16: 28
    Interesting stuff. Only comments did not go quite there, the economy is an interesting thing, socialism, communism is all interesting, but not quite the topic. The only shame is for naive citizens who think that 4-5 crew members on our plane is bad, but on all kinds of Boeing and watermelons, two is good. I explain that two crew members were made for reasons of saving salaries, and the fact that they would have to pay compensation for dead passengers (2 million passengers carried in one accident) that could not have happened if the crew included a flight engineer, navigator and radio operator, which in a critical situation, everyone does his job, and not everything falls on the pilots. So compensation is less than the salary of crew members for these millions of passengers carried, and the fact that people died and to hell with them. I think that if there were a flight engineer (and this is usually a sane person) in the crew of the Superjet, which was put into Sheremetyevo, then there would be no disaster, most likely the plane would continue to fly along the route or land after fuel was exhausted. And so they saved ...
    If, in essence, the material is what they are afraid of, they have a genetic memory (especially among the inhabitants of the Baltic Sea coast), how many times have they been equated, let’s say from the era of Veliky Novgorod to the present. And given that they understand that after 1991 we were slightly nipped, and for a long time we will not tolerate this, and they see green men. Moreover, the story moves in a spiral. In general, Russes, according to one version, are people in boats, and what people in boats probably did was not necessary to explain. So they begin to twitch at the word Russian. Therefore, everything is fine, let them twitch. As for biological weapons, I think there is no need to be afraid, we were much more likely (in the 20s of the last century) to study all kinds of diseases, for example, in Mongolia, and we got a Japanese and German scientific and technical backlog in this area.

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