Capitalism with a social face, or How to push a steam engine in Russia

It is no secret that today Russia lives in a crisis. Sometimes it seems that a crisis is its natural state when it has no end and edge. And, actually, why? Why are we so dutifully used to it that we don’t even try to dream of the best? We are not trying to set ourselves tasks that could really be realized.




Socially oriented capitalism


Friends, what do you think of the project of social capitalism? In fact, why not? Indeed, “capitalism”, “socialism”, “democracy”, “dictatorship” - all these are rather conventional concepts. In its pure form, you can hardly find them. Life (and economics in particular) is still multifaceted. It goes beyond clear definitions.

The choice of the socio-economic system is not throwing at dusk from Scylla to Charybdis, but the ability to see the golden ratio and the talent to combine the seemingly impossible. Because in the cart to go, sometimes you have to harness a swan, a crayfish and a pike if there are no draft horses at hand. But they are not yet. But nothing, but there is a cart, and even a rush for inventions is cunning. Although, to begin with, it’s not necessary to invent anything tricky.

In general, the economy, like any system, is physically moving somewhere. More precisely, it moves in only two directions: it is developing or is declining. It will not work to preserve her movement, no matter how much she wants. Hence the conclusion: we have only one way - go ahead!

But in order to take it right off the bat, you need to create the prerequisites and evaluate what is in the way. But what hinders our economic development, if not the lack of proper demand? Even supply in Russia is not as scarce as demand. Because we, unfortunately, have no money. There is a printing press, but, alas, money. All enterprises are credited, all consumers groan in debt. Because in Russia, you see, there is no money.

And for the Olympics, fiesta and other tinsel, not so cheap, where did the money come from? Really fell from the sky?

Demand is necessary for the economy, this is not a whim and not a handout to the poor. It’s time for our ministers and deputy prime ministers to learn this. And at least not to kill the demand that still exists. For this, pensions and social benefits must be fully preserved, curbing the predation of natural monopolies and housing and communal services. And do not allow banks and mobile operators to lift commissions for their air services. So that the money of the population does not fly into the pipe. After all, there are none, so let's limit greed. That on purchases remained in wallets rubles. Then the level of production in Russia will slow down or even stop it.

As you can see, so far everything is simple. No higher math.

We take the following question: how to raise supply or production, including in the countryside? Fiscal benefits alone cannot be dispensed with, although one must start from there. It’s time to stop strangling work with taxes. The tax burden on enterprises and farmers is wild. Hence there are no incomes, and, as a consequence, the enterprises themselves. VAT and the same communal eat up all the profits in production. Because of the accrual of salaries to employees, the employer is also required to pay taxes! As if he is renting serfs from the budget. What kind of economic growth in Russia can be discussed then?

The government is justified by spending on education, medicine and defense. These articles, they say, will have to be curtailed if the tax burden is reduced. How, are there no other options? What about the rent from sales of minerals abroad? If it is not enough, you can revive the former state monopoly on vodka and bread. She was still with the king-priest. In addition, why not remember the church and its tax breaks. Who is stopping such a large organization from paying taxes jointly and severally? And I ask you not to consider this an attempt on the sacred. Yes, our church fathers are holy people, they pray for us. But why is there a lot of money for this? Money corrupts the soul.

We will collect it all, and nothing, then the budget will make ends meet. There will be a country that is healthy, competent, strong and does not kill production, entrepreneurship, farming. He will be able to create his own market, where no one just snoops around, no external monopoly or octopus.

What is required of our economists


Of course, creating a market (and, in fact, it is not there yet) will not be as easy as abandoning looting in relation to consumers. However, this case is hardly troublesome. Especially if you can turn the ruble into a hard currency like the euro, dollar or yuan. When will we finally rid him of crutches? And do not be afraid that a strong ruble will kill exports. In China, the yuan did not kill, but vice versa.

Cleverly playing the hard ruble without getting carried away by import and not interfering with export is just what our economists require. And if these luminaries begin to exclaim that this, they say, is also “alas”, we must send our luminaries for an internship. The Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank would be sent to China as a whole, and it is advisable that they do not return home. I’m not sure what will happen there with China, but money will appear in Russia. After all, they are, they can not be.

How to make Russia work?


Finally, the last of the first. The task is not easy and is already the third. It is not easy in the literal sense: how to make Russia work?

In Russia, labor has long ceased to be a source of well-being. We even got the term: “working poor”. But there are still poor, but not working. For the rest, work ethic is degrading to zero. I’m not talking about professionalism anymore. People do not work, but sit at work with one thought: where else to make money?

But how did we get to this? Yes, very simple.

One of the reasons why the liberals managed to crush the economy was their indulgence in idleness. The liberals entered into an asocial alliance with society: we do what we want at the top, but you don’t want to do anything below and don’t do it. Bucks, what else do you want?

So we beat. That is, we sit and wait until our hard-working neighbors, China and Japan, grind us to dust. We have almost no labor reserves and few technical specialists. And workers are cheap day laborers from Central Asia.

We also have almost no labor market for Russians; we willingly transferred it to the wrong hands. There is no need to talk about the quality of labor. As well as about its quantity. The government, for example, thought of offering the country an 4-day work week. It is as if our work is complete and everyone is tired of it.

I do not urge to plow in three doom, but still you need to plow anyway. But where and by whom? Especially if working and vocational education is actually destroyed. We urgently need our labor reserves: workers, craftsmen, technicians, agronomists. It is necessary to create an entire apiary and labor market. And we in Russia are stamping lawyers and economists, and we are also saying that soon all professions will die. We, like the blind, grow dung flies in an apiary, and then we are suddenly surprised: why is it that we don’t have honey, but the stench is such that even hang an ax!

Nightingales do not feed fables


For economic growth, not only bees are important, but also honeycombs, i.e. workplaces. Which implies a good salary. Nightingales do not feed fables. The priority here is jobs in production: in the city and in the countryside. Each of them provides another 3-5 jobs in the service sector. People literally need to be accustomed to work and a good salary. They are unaccustomed to this.

At whose expense do all this grace? I answer: for no one! It is enough to reduce production taxes and taxes from legal (!) Private business. And the government can easily cover the lost, so to speak, budget benefit by abandoning insanely expensive and stupid "national projects." Where there are no clear goals, objectives and guidelines, but budgetary funds flow away.

The rise of Russian production will pay for all this bureaucratic whim. He himself will suggest projects at the national level.

Conclusion


And now to summarize our conversation. To move a cart in Russia, you need only three (!) Things:

The first one. To maintain and increase demand, i.e. population consumption of goods and services. To do this, people need income - salaries and pensions with adequate taxes.

The second one. Save and increase the offer, i.e. agricultural and industrial production. He also needs moderate taxes and healthy protectionism. Domestic manufacturers need help.

The third. We must finally stop messing around. Stop nationwide beating the bucks and engage in artistic whistling. Enough as much as you can already! It's time to start working. I repeat once again: RA-BO-THAT. This is the key to success.

It's time to roll up our sleeves, and then our cart, or rather, the engine, will begin to rattle and move. It will go forward: at first slowly, and then normally. To ride a steam locomotive, it must first be started, set in motion.

But who exactly will lead the engine without the praise of “necessary” and “we”? What do you think, nobody? You are mistaken. And what is our dear power to us? The Kremlin seems to still exist. And do not wave your hand: they say, what to take from it, from this power? Believe me, you can take a lot of things from her. The question is already acute, rib. Postpone it will not work. And we have someone to start a steam locomotive, although not everyone is aware of this.

Anyway, Russia will have to push. Nothing stands still, and we will also have to move, whether we want it or not.

As you can see, we have not discovered miracles with you, and supernatural tasks, too. The tasks are ordinary, the most school-like. Which are decided on gray days.

And then it will not be necessary to go into the wilds, arrange color revolutions and shoot from tanks in the White House. Everything will cost peacefully. Without poverty, horrors and upheavals, although with calluses in their hands.

Well, now that seems to be all. Oh yes, I completely forgot. We are discussing here how to move Russia from its place, but we do not ask our oligarchs. As if they weren’t at all already. And they are rich, influential people, God forbid, they will be offended.

And what to be offended, dear? You yourself know: we have oligarchs, but no oligarchies. Each of them is for himself, and even strives to pinch a neighbor. In this sense, they are far from liberal companions.

Liberals cooperate, although they do not cherish power in Russia. They are working on it in order to transfer Russia under external control, and to retire themselves. Gentlemen, you know, are unkempt. Well, or almost.

And the oligarchs would still save capital in the light of the likely collapse of the country. To imperceptibly (!) Integrate with them into the global economy. Even with bird rights. Here lies the main problem for them.

From the point of view of the global economy, Russian oligarchs perform only one function, pumping money and mineral resources from the country. The foreign economy needs them as a tool - a siphon for the overflow of wealth.

As soon as there is nothing to transfuse or resources can be pumped without a siphon, they will cut it, leaving it without profit. And foreign property from the oligarchs will be taken away. Some of the valuable will be arrested, and the rest will be taken in parts, filling up with debts, so that the oligarchs parted with him for a penny. Offshores in the world have long been gone, and financial accounts are easy to freeze. So to speak, to combat the Russian mafia and illegal money laundering.

As you can see, our oligarchs are not much favored even abroad. Discriminated and discredited. Do not respect. Planted for jailbreaking in a French prison. They are treated not as rich, but as sheep, which must be sheared and can still be eaten.

Where then to go to poor people, for whom there is even nobody to say a word? Or maybe for a start they should look at themselves? Stop chasing nonsense and do not dismiss the threat.

It’s time for our oligarchs to grow up. It's time to get out of children's pants. Stop pampering yourself with trinkets and live for your own pleasure. Especially when pleasure is doubtful.

It's time to know the value of yourself and your country, because they have one. And to get rich, it is not necessary to squander it. The country must be able to be proud, as well as put your soul into it. So that, not even an hour, there was a place to lean on your back.

We will talk about politics, war and peace next time.
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  1. sergo1914 8 October 2019 04: 36 New
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    With ownership of the means of production it would be good to decide. But they won’t. Well, the bowels to whom in the country belong? Since milking in black, let them share. But again. Hardly. And to plow ... and so we plow like hell. So what?
    1. Lannan Shi 8 October 2019 05: 00 New
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      Quote: sergo1914
      And to plow ... and so we plow like hell. So what?

      A working cattle and must plow. For hay and stall. New Russian morality. Judging by the number of posts, the office hamster does not even imitate work - an avatar of God. If not God himself. And those without whom he will die of hunger are the scum of society.
      The moral of the current elite. And without changing this very elite, nothing will change.
      1. Grandfather 8 October 2019 08: 34 New
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        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Quote: sergo1914
        And to plow ... and so we plow like hell. So what?

        A working cattle and must plow. For hay and stall. New Russian morality. Judging by the number of posts, the office hamster does not even imitate work - an avatar of God. If not God himself. And those without whom he will die of hunger are the scum of society.
        The moral of the current elite. And without changing this very elite, nothing will change.

        very evil ... and very fair. +
        1. Lexus 8 October 2019 17: 32 New
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          How to make Russia work?

          According to the cream, this question is rhetorical. They only have the desire to "force". Because they are increasing punitive organs. If you don’t want to work hard for beggarly pennies, start demanding something - we’ll walk along the ribs as a “democratizer”.
      2. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 09: 53 New
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        Quote: Lannan Shi
        A working cattle and must plow. For hay and stall. New Russian morality.

        This is eternal morality, but as the founders Mapx and Engels said, “The proletarian sells his labor to a capitalist who pays a penny for it, and takes profit for himself,” is the same pattern now in Russia. For more than 100, the people of the summer were familiar with this scheme, and now it has come. There are only two choices left, either reconcile and be a "silent workhorse" or fight, but the latter is doubtful (there are no leaders). After the events of 1917 of the year, the “Old World” took into account and “corrected” the situation, while our young, greedy capitalism has not yet understood this, but everything is flowing, everything is changing.
        1. vlad106 8 October 2019 13: 05 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          Mapx and Engels "The proletarian sells his labor to a capitalist who pays a penny for it,

          Well, the industry must first be restored (built) plundered and destroyed by "effective" managers ...
          1. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 13: 54 New
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            Quote: vlad106
            Well, the industry must first be restored (built) plundered and destroyed by "effective" managers ...

            And I would like to ask, “And who will build and rebuild it? Can you tell me at least one state-owned enterprise built by the state? I only know so far that the destroyed enterprises, and some of them (in Moscow) have shopping and entertainment centers (what is not I know, I saw markets with cafes) or buildings, but not factories.
            1. smart ass 10 October 2019 10: 26 New
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              They proved to me that a lot of enterprises were built in Russia and everything is fine, but I panic
              1. tihonmarine 10 October 2019 10: 47 New
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                Quote: Clever man
                They proved to me that a lot of enterprises were built in Russia and everything is fine, but I panic

                But you forgot to say that these enterprises are private, but not state-owned, built on other people's money and belong to at least 50% to foreigners, but not to the state (people).
                1. Eroma 13 October 2019 09: 59 New
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                  The people, is not an effective manager of productive assets, like the state! Therefore, only private companies work effectively. We need rules that allow us to earn and pay a salary, but with the rules (tax system) we have a problem because of this, only those with a paw are better than they live well! ...
                  Given such conditions and the appropriate business culture! Upstairs there is only a certain type of people, and the rest row as they can.
                  Do not think that all entrepreneurs are evil thieves, most plow more than any employee, without days off and sick days with holidays!
          2. Chaldon48 11 October 2019 09: 26 New
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            To restore the industry, it is necessary that someone wants to do it and he must have the means, or power or money, or even better, both, and this is only for the state, and the state is controlled by very specific people, we kind of chose some , and the rest seemed to have somehow advanced. So the question arises: do these upper people have the will and desire to make our lives better, they unanimously declare what they have. Well and then what? Where is this improvement that is missing?
      3. Cat man null 8 October 2019 09: 58 New
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        Quote: Lannan Shi
        New Russian moral

        I repeat, probably:

        Quote: Cat Man Null
        categorical judgments are characteristic of ignoramuses. Usually


        Quote: Lannan Shi
        Judging by the number of posts, the office hamster doesn’t even imitate work

        "Grandfather", for example. There are many, yes.
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      5. Vadim237 8 October 2019 13: 13 New
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        "And without changing this very elite, nothing will change." I will disappoint you and even after the change of elite, a new one will come, the same.
        1. But there are great examples from history. When it was necessary to somehow close the fiscal year, Nicholas II, for example, replenished the budget of the Republic of Ingushetia with the means of his family. And panties (riding breeches?) With patches did not hesitate to wear. These are current ,, eccentrics ,, (according to Shukshin) banknotes consider kilograms ... In the museum you can see the shoes of Nadezhda Konstantinovna Krupskaya. Also with patches. And the boots of Stalin killed by the ghouls were also with patches ... Do not doubt people like that. People UPPER were, are and will be! Until ,, the end of the century ,,. If only we ourselves WAS worthy of decent leaders. What about the article? Too optimistic. For example, they lagged behind China itself. Not funny, not funny. Defenses suffer. There are a lot of questions for the state that is currently “steers” in Russia .... This has already been discussed on the site. Lack of MEANING - this is the main problem of the current Republic of Kazakhstan (,, Capitalist Russia ,,)
          1. Vadim237 8 October 2019 16: 25 New
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            "They are very behind, for example, from China itself." What lagged behind - in copying, this is not our direction.
            1. smart ass 10 October 2019 11: 47 New
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              I was in China ask me questions
            2. Eroma 13 October 2019 10: 28 New
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              In the development of the economy! China has global manufacturing companies, we have only global raw materials (though it’s very effective it should replace!).
              But we do not have global science-intensive and simply mass production (except for weapons). Perhaps nuclear scientists are also our pride! All the rest compared to China, subsidiary plots! Consumer goods, this is God with him, we are not competitors here, but consumers. Shipbuilding, do not have defense orders and orders from state corporations, it will simply disappear, the industry is not independent! Aircraft manufacturing is the same! Machine tool industry came to life a bit due to import substitution, it is not competitive! Telecommunications, have you heard anything about Russian companies? And the whole world is talking about Huawei. Our infrastructure projects in the world are doing something, but where do they get equipment for these projects? and what kind of energy equipment do we have, and in China?
              We are now catching up ...
          2. smart ass 10 October 2019 11: 46 New
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            Tell Siluanov this with a salary of 1.5 million rubles
            1. nikon7717 12 October 2019 08: 37 New
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              Tell Siluanov this with a salary of 1.5 million rubles

              Compare the salaries of ministers in tsarist Russia and other people. In your place of the minister, what responsibility lies and how much do you have to work hard for you to afford? And the volume of knowledge, the path of any person to the post of minister, what, in 20, 30 years, even then, Stalin paid ministers and gave privileges. You are ready to work on the schedule 24 * 7. Whole year. At any time, decide everything on your own responsibility? For this both payment and selection
              1. smart ass 12 October 2019 12: 50 New
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                Ready 24 * 10 to work for 1.5 million
                1. nikon7717 12 October 2019 13: 12 New
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                  Ready 24 * 10 to work

                  Clarify please, wink
                  24 * 10. What is this schedule?
                  24 * 7 = 24 hours a day 7 days a week. You understand that even you sleep “conditionally”, you can be lifted at any moment. Moreover, this is a schedule of many managers who are actually working, not wedding generals. Ready to bear responsibility for the fate of people and be responsible for huge amounts of money? Not in words. Knowing that they will crucify you on the forums, the media will get the whole family of relatives. You are ready to fight with others who will substitute you hourly, they also want to take your place. Think about it.
                  1. smart ass 12 October 2019 15: 29 New
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                    Of course ready
                    1. Eroma 13 October 2019 10: 43 New
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                      In addition to preparedness for everything, for the sake of zp, we must also be able to do all this!
                      1. smart ass 13 October 2019 13: 06 New
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                        What is it to steal and come up with new taxes? For 1.5 million I am ready now even seven days a week
                      2. Eroma 13 October 2019 15: 52 New
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                        You also need to be able to steal, otherwise you won’t work long. laughing
                        They do not think over taxes, but introduce world experience; we do not have purely Russian taxes what
                        Are you confident in your abilities? I doubt that you will succeed
                      3. nikon7717 13 October 2019 15: 54 New
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                        wink that's how you have a respected login? "Smart ass"? You obviously are still a layman. Do you represent the real work of the minister? You write that you will come up with new taxes and cut the budget. Ha ha ha !!!! Let me know how you do it? Describe.
                        They openly admitted that they were ready to steal, that means they had already stolen at work, they were used to it, you would quickly enter into an agreement. There is no principle. Hand over everything. This is your characteristic.
                        You try on the spot of any governor to break the system of interconnected relations in the region where you stood up. It's like in a clan to put everything on its ears. Who will gobble up someone faster.
                        You will be rolled into asphalt. Evdokimova remember.
                        The clever man was found.
                        Nifiga is not understood in the device, but they say, we only give. But how and what to do, they never even thought about their heads and creative implementation. Sharikovs!
                      4. nikon7717 13 October 2019 16: 13 New
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                        For 1,5 million, you are required to ensure the stability of the functioning of the ministry, to develop its functions, to eliminate deficiencies, to change the gaps in the legislation, to put the industry forward, strategically, and solve current problems. New frames to attract. All this in a limited time, means.
                        In order for people in the country to live happier from your work, it has become easier.
                        And you ... Gray .. selfish ... and such a lot around ...
                        Or was it wrong and can you move the offer to issue, write, or promote something real?
                        Who are you?
                      5. smart ass 13 October 2019 22: 43 New
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                        I’m looking good at you burned in the ministry; sit at the chair worried? Don’t Siluanov your last name by chance?
                      6. nikon7717 14 October 2019 23: 36 New
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                        Ehh ... they don’t recognize me ... let me remind you, Witte ....
    2. MBRSS 11 October 2019 04: 15 New
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      Nicholas II, for example, replenished the budget of the Republic of Ingushetia with the means of his family. And panties (riding breeches?) With patches did not hesitate to wear.

      but for the holidays he gave children toys made of gold, Faberge eggs, etc. And in order to allow this, he worked, probably in the sweat of his face.
      If only we ourselves WAS worthy of decent leaders.

      this idea is crushed by all the media
      Lack of MEANING - this is the main problem of the current Republic of Kazakhstan (,, Capitalist Russia ,,)

      there is a sense - enrichment without regard to social justice.
      I wonder if the State Duma will adopt a law on illegal enrichment ??? And if he does, then when and in what form?
      1. Eroma 13 October 2019 10: 46 New
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        I hope not when I will not accept! The rules are such that it is not legally possible to get around! Then all businessmen will be planted at will! ... and the officials will have money in KILOTONS, because it will not be possible to simply calculate
  2. karabass 9 October 2019 21: 45 New
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    I have been reading your comments for a long time and I have the opinion that your comments are your job - to maintain the existing order of things, Kremlin boat, in a word If you have a desire to refute. Somewhere you wrote that you are an entrepreneur, but your words are radically different from the vocabulary and argumentation of entrepreneurs I am tormented by vague doubts as one famous character used to say
  3. syndicalist 11 October 2019 07: 47 New
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    even after the change of elite, a new one will come, the same.

    Absolutely agree. The current system will crush any elite, making it the same as what we have now. So, you need to start not with the elite.
  • savage1976 12 October 2019 03: 08 New
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    All true, I completely agree, that's just one point, but where did the elite come from? From Mars, from Venus, from Jupiter? Yes, this is it, we are all, only she is in sight, but we don’t want to look at ourselves in the mirror.
  • SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 05: 23 New
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    And in history there are few examples when they worked as slaves (and on galleys too), as serfs, as blacks? So what? Have they started to live better from constant work? Or is history hiding the facts of working millionaire slaves? In general, is it really hard to work (live at work) and live well? Well, who among the many traveling and living well lives at work?
    1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 05: 38 New
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      To ride a steam locomotive, it must first be started, set in motion.
      Where to go? The oligarchs have long sold rails for scrap!
      1. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 06: 08 New
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        << Where to go? The oligarchs sold rails for a long time for scrap! >> But this is a blow below the belt! Himself dismantled the path. The rails were produced in 1937. Well, of course, under the strict guidance of. And then you think that tyril. hi
        1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 06: 15 New
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          The unique railway Kholmsk - Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk: the rails "went off" with snow - the snow melted, and the rails bye-bye! Some sleepers, tunnels and bridges ....
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 06: 24 New
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            Living in Russia, there’s nothing to be surprised at. So. Routine. But constantly wondering. What foreigners think, I don’t know.
            1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 06: 26 New
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              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              constantly wondering.

              Since the age of 91, I have been surprised at everything ... And I can’t get surprised at all!
              1. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 06: 29 New
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                Similarly, a colleague! hi
          2. New Year day 8 October 2019 11: 36 New
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            Quote: Uncle Lee
            The unique railway Kholmsk - Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk: the rails "went off" with snow - the snow melted, and the rails bye-bye!

            There are many such examples. This gas pipeline ...

            already in 2016, according to the papers, it was built and is working - Gazprom confirms the size of the stolen - 2 billion rubles
            1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 13: 54 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              built and running

              In quotation marks! Our road was simply torn apart - "as unnecessary"! And also a shipping company of 100 steamships, a fishing fleet base, a shipyard, 2 boom houses, a lacobank, two fur farms, and three fishing farms, a Stroydetal plant, Agricultural chemistry and Agricultural equipment, ATP, Heavy mechanization, a motorcade, three state farms, a poultry factory, a meat factory, a brewery, a meat factory several supply bases, and you won’t remember everything! How many people worked here? There were 80 thousand people in the district, about 15 thousand people remained! Can this be called development?
              1. Eroma 13 October 2019 11: 01 New
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                This is optimization bully
            2. Old anecdote 9 October 2019 20: 34 New
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              Quote: Silvestr
              already in 2016, according to the papers, it was built and is working - Gazprom confirms the size of the stolen - 2 billion rubles

              laughing And you, dear, master of art whistle! Are there proofs? Present, please! bully
              1. New Year day 9 October 2019 21: 38 New
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                And you, dear, master of art whistle! Are there proofs? Present, please!

                Yandex to help you. Hint - gas pipeline in the Leningrad region laughing
                1. syndicalist 11 October 2019 07: 50 New
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                  . Yandex to help you

                  Allowed (so far) by the State Committee for Supervision.
            3. karabass 9 October 2019 21: 58 New
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              if the pipes were brought in and scattered along the highway, then nothing was stolen! Some force majeure, for example, bankruptcy or something else, it also happens that the entire route is built, but some section is not (most often an ice-free swamp) We had such a case in kogalym - from 250 km (already built) 5 km on ice-free no one wanted to build a swamp, despite the fact that Lukoil gave its excavators (they can drown) and reduced 20% of the rollback to 10%, no one took it anyway, despite the pressure
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          In vain that did not tyril
      2. astepanov 8 October 2019 10: 20 New
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        Touched the title:
        How to push a steam locomotive in Russia
        Someone believes that only the absence of rails prevents this:
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The oligarchs have long sold rails for scrap!

        Wake up, comrades! Steam engine pushed back in the nineties! And almost the entire machine steam was pushed under the guise of scrap metal, and the darkness of enterprises, and in general everything that is possible and what is impossible. And now only wood, gas and oil can push in a big way. Are you waiting for a change? They will not be. Lenin taught that changes happen when life becomes like in bed with spouses who are bored with each other: "the tops cannot, but the lower classes do not want to." But remember the story: after coming to power, the Bolsheviks began to ferociously eradicate any possibility of social protest, they acquired manual unions, subjugated the press, and later other media. Well, and by force, they crushed those who pawed, not only under Stalin: remember the shooting in Novocherkassk in 62. As a result, the desire to somehow put pressure on the power of us burned out at an almost genetic level. So the sexual position in society does not at all coincide with the Leninist one, since the upper ones do not want to, and they have throated the bottom with a famous object.
        Wangyu: nothing will change. National projects? Ha, these projects have been coming out under different names for the third decade, and the situation is getting worse. The current government is similar to King Midas, only he turned everything into gold with his touch, and they manage to turn everything into Mr., while simultaneously extracting from there the longed-for bucks - for himself, for his beloved. There he is, the national project "Healthcare": soon we will immediately sign up for funeral homes, since there are no doctors left in the polyclinics. And the money allocated to national projects will be pushed after that engine.
        Eh ...
        1. New Year day 8 October 2019 11: 41 New
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          Quote: astepanov
          There he is, the national project "Healthcare": soon we will immediately sign up for funeral homes, since there are no doctors left in the polyclinics.

          do not anticipate the actions of the authorities, dear! Although, in fact, I agree with you.
          The draft order (project ID 01/02 / 10−19 / 00095493 dated October 2, 2019), available on the portal “Normative Legal Acts of the Government of the Russian Federation”, contains the names of professions, whose foreign owners almost automatically become citizens of our country. Of the 135 specialties, the predominant are medical: midwives, emergency doctors, psychiatrists, district therapists, surgeons, nurses, paramedics, and the like.
          So the holes are plugged by gastro-byte doctors.
          As regards deaths, statistics will be corrected and voila!
          Analysts at the Russian Presidential Academy of National Economy and Public Administration found that, starting in 2012, Russians began to "less often" die from the reasons that V. Putin ordered to focus on in May decrees (cardiovascular diseases, cancer, infant mortality), and more often from rare diseases and unidentified reasons. This is hardly an accident.
        2. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 14: 00 New
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          Quote: astepanov
          lack of rails prevents this

          There are not only rails, there is no locomotive itself, and the engineer with the fireman do not know which side to take on a shovel, and there is no coal for the furnace either!
          "It's over, the sound of wheels knocked,
          The sleepers are over, there are no rails.
          Oh, howl now, sorry no tears
          Tears ran out on the ground. "
          V. Vysotsky.
    2. Svarog 8 October 2019 08: 37 New
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      Conclusion

      And now to summarize our conversation. To move a cart in Russia, you need only three (!) Things:

      In order to move Russia from its place, you must first move the entire ruling elite .. then the authorities should have socially oriented professionals, and then, you need to move the economy. And if with the economy it is clear what to do and how to do it, then here is how to remove these incompetent ticks?
      1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 08: 41 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        ticks of these mediocre to bring?

        Ticks are twisted counterclockwise!
      2. Avalex 8 October 2019 09: 58 New
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        That's all you must rule! And how not to change it is always bad and it must be changed!
        First, try to agree on the color of the paint in your porch. And then more, street, city ... Everyone can scold, but to do ...
        1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 10: 48 New
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          Yes, many of us like to give advice on how to equip Russia. Global to disgrace. But to solve issues, pressing issues, in the same HOA, it is not: let the uncle decide.
      3. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 10: 54 New
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        Moving is not a problem, the problem is different: where to get new honest managers? There are literate people, but decent and socially oriented are unlikely. The vast majority, having received a position, are metamorphic to indecent, as soon as they smell the smell of money.
      4. Vadim237 8 October 2019 13: 17 New
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        You have already pushed the economy of the USSR — stop moving.
      5. Andrey VOV 9 October 2019 13: 00 New
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        Socially oriented professionals in power ???? something new .. honestly, without sarcasm ... well, maybe some kind of example?
    3. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 09: 56 New
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      Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
      how are blacks?

      And what did they work too?
  • Observer2014 8 October 2019 07: 44 New
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    And so? And there is nothing good and bright ahead. Every month it's getting worse and worse. The salary is getting smaller and smaller. It’s going to gobble up by raising prices for everything. The total lies about the compensations there are different. Upgrades. One thing is lying from the TV screens. Life is completely different. No hopes for improvement. Only everything will be worse . The authorities became brutal in their desire to immerse citizens in wild capitalism. I don’t know who is there and what helps and how. Everything is not concerned. All of their fictitious attempts are in some improvement past. I do not believe them. From the word in general.
    1. Stas157 8 October 2019 08: 39 New
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      Friends what do you think about the project of social capitalism?

      People have already answered this question in the last election. By unanimously voting for someone who supports abnormal inequality in Russia, the dominance of officials and oligarchs. (And in order to keep the indignation in check, he turned the country into a police state.)

      Social capitalism, which stood Grudinin, the electorate did not appreciate. It seemed to them that the coming to power of a strawberry oligarch (the head of a state farm) would already be the height of injustice.
      1. Svarog 8 October 2019 09: 09 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        The social capitalism that Grudinin stood for was not appreciated by the electorate at all.

        Hello stas! hi I don’t think that the electorate didn’t appreciate .. In my circle and in the circle of my circle, almost everyone voted for Grudinin .. Even if Putin had at least some kind of election program and if he honestly said that he was planning to raise his retirement age VAT and systematically get rid of the social responsibility of the state, even then he would have won .. Why? Yes, because the administrative resource was 100% used .. and he, this resource is huge, the army of officials, the army, the Russian Guard, the police, doctors, teachers .. everyone was recommended to vote "correctly". I have a wife with a friend, a teacher, they made me throw in bills. So Grudinin, to compete with such a machine was difficult. The only way to win is to all go to the polls and vote for a single candidate from the socialists. I think in the next election, this candidate will be Platoshkin.
        1. Stas157 8 October 2019 09: 15 New
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          Hello Volodya!
          Quote: Svarog
          In my environment and in the environment of my environment, almost everyone voted for Grudinin ..

          In mine too. hi
        2. Lexus 8 October 2019 17: 44 New
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          Vladimir hi
          You have forgotten the main voter of United Russia, whose “vote” is decisive in all elections - the Central Election Commission.
        3. Saul_Rhen 8 October 2019 20: 30 New
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          You have to stop polling in your sect and take a sensible look at the world. Normal people neighing with a messiah in the face of a communist oligarch. I saw nothing more wretched in my life, as attempts to glorify this "miracle"
        4. IS-80_RVGK2 8 October 2019 21: 47 New
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          Quote: Svarog
          The only way to win is to all go to the polls and vote for a single candidate from the socialists.

          And if you read what the classics of Marxism wrote a hundred years ago and at least think a little about what you read, it becomes clear that what you wrote is the right way to lose, not win.
          Quote: Svarog
          I think in the next election, this candidate will be Platoshkin.

          Watching the life of some people doesn’t teach anything. You are not tired of the rake race yet? Platoshkin is a socialist like Trump, Merkel, Zyuganov and Kurgenyan. Well and other Puchkov Goblins with Klima Zhukovs. They stupidly make money on a popular topic.
          1. Svarog 8 October 2019 22: 01 New
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            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And if you read what the classics of Marxism wrote a hundred years ago and at least think a little about what you read, it becomes clear that what you wrote is the right way to lose, not win.

            Do you propose a revolution? How do you think you can win?
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            Watching the life of some people doesn’t teach anything. You are not tired of the rake race yet? Platoshkin is a socialist like Trump, Merkel, Zyuganov and Kurgenyan. Well and other Puchkov Goblins with Klima Zhukovs. They stupidly make money on a popular topic.

            And who does not make money? What politician is your opinion?
            1. IS-80_RVGK2 8 October 2019 22: 11 New
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              Quote: Svarog
              Do you propose a revolution? How do you think you can win?

              What a revolution? Do you see a revolutionary situation in the country? Me not. For starters, it would be nice to roll the elections to the Duma and the presidential. And with indispensable protests. Otherwise, there will not be much sense. Only all this is nothing more than my thoughts about. Because I see most still do not understand nichrome, and especially does not think about anything. And moreover, it is additionally fooled by all kinds of crooks.
              Quote: Svarog
              And who does not make money? What politician is your opinion?

              I don’t see those yet. Around some corrupt talkers.
              1. Svarog 8 October 2019 22: 19 New
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                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                I don’t see those yet. Around some corrupt talkers.

                But how do you define a person as a sales person, is he a talker or not? It is difficult to understand until it does something.
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                For starters, it would be nice to roll the elections to the Duma and the presidential.

                But you understand, this is also utopia, state employees, the army, civil servants, they will still drive them to the polls and draw as they should ... I think that the turnout should be the maximum, on the contrary, so that it would not be possible to finish it .. but if violations are discovered, then mass protests ..
                1. IS-80_RVGK2 8 October 2019 22: 37 New
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                  Quote: Svarog
                  But how do you define a person as a sales person, is he a talker or not? It is difficult to understand until it does something.

                  Here you are of course partly right. But often this is already evident in rhetoric.
                  Quote: Svarog
                  I think that the turnout should be maximally the opposite, so that there is no possibility to finish it .. but if violations are found, then mass protests ..

                  I also once thought so, and then I realized that I was wrong. Just for the authorities now the worst thing is the failure to appear. Remember all this circus with Grudinin. Why did they first publicize it, and then they began to stoke it intensely? Yes, actually in order to increase the interest of the people in the elections.
      2. Edmond dantes 8 October 2019 09: 48 New
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        I do not defend Putin, but Grudin is not an alternative.
        1. New Year day 8 October 2019 11: 49 New
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          Quote: Edmond Dantes
          I do not defend Putin, but Grudin is not an alternative.

          bad when choice is without choice
          1. Vadim237 8 October 2019 13: 20 New
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            In 2024 you will have a choice - but most will vote for a new candidate from EP with a probability of 70%
            1. Lexus 8 October 2019 17: 57 New
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              These are our elections ...

          2. IS-80_RVGK2 8 October 2019 21: 49 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            bad when choice is without choice

            And what will this choice of candidates give you in the grasp of the bourgeoisie? In any case, they will be forced to defend the interests of the ruling class.
      3. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 13: 33 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        The social capitalism that Grudinin stood for was not appreciated by the electorate at all.

        Well, that’s all in place and it’s clear "Hu their Hu," but it should be as written in the Constitution of the USSR
        Article 6. Land, its subsoil, water, forests, factories, factories, mines, mines, railway, water and air transport, banks, communications, state-owned large agricultural enterprises (state farms, machine and tractor stations, etc.), as well as utilities and the main housing stock in cities and industrial centers are state property, that is, the national property.
        1. Saul_Rhen 8 October 2019 20: 32 New
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          Article 6. Land, its subsoil, water, forests, factories, factories, mines, mines, railway, water and air transport, banks, communications, state-owned large agricultural enterprises (state farms, machine and tractor stations, etc.), as well as utilities and the main housing stock in cities and industrial centers are state property, that is, the national property.

          they forgot to add there: which the party elite uses when approving a stupid herd - the people. Open your eyes, what of this did you personally have?
          1. tihonmarine 9 October 2019 08: 37 New
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            Quote: Saul_Rhen
            Open your eyes, what of this did you personally have?

            My eyes are already open for 73 of the year, I saw them and Stalin and saw the “heads of heads” I have seen and still see.
    2. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 10: 01 New
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      Quote: Observer2014
      And so? And there is nothing good and bright ahead. Every month it’s getting worse and worse. The salary is getting smaller and smaller. It’s being eaten up by the price increase for everything.

      Well, you studied this with the founders of the Manifesto of the Communist Party and Imperialism, the developed form of capitalism. Everything is back to square one, nothing changes.
    3. Avalex 8 October 2019 10: 04 New
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      I perfectly remember the 90s! I had a huge salary, I didn’t fit in my bag :) :) :) I taught at school. But I didn’t have much time to buy it :) :). Now the salary in comparison with that is “spear”. Not getting smaller. And enough for food and clothing and sweets.
      1. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 13: 38 New
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        Quote: Avalex
        I had a huge salary, I didn’t fit in my bag :) :) :) I taught at school. But I didn’t have much time to buy it :) :). Now the salary in comparison with that is “spear”. Not getting smaller. And enough for food and clothing and sweets.

        So you write how they lowered us and lowered us, and now you are happy that there is enough for sweets.
        1. Avalex 9 October 2019 09: 38 New
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          You write nonsense! And everything from what you grab from the context that more closely matches your “opinion” ... stop whining, even do the time, constructive
      2. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 14: 35 New
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        What is the highest salary in the 90s? I, the pilot, PIC An-26 received a little more than 200 bucks (in rubles, of course) and delayed the salary for 3-4 months so that I had to do business in parallel. This is now the PIC on ATRe (analogue Ana) has a minimum of 2 hundred kilo rubles, that is, 3,5 thousand dollars.
        1. tihonmarine 9 October 2019 08: 41 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          What is the high salary in 90's? I, the pilot, FAC An-26 received a little more 200 bucks (in rubles, of course)

          I was also at that time was the captain of the CCM and the salary is the same, but now about 7 thousand USD.
        2. Avalex 9 October 2019 09: 27 New
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          Here are the real patriots gathered! Everyone has a salary in dollars! And I’m a boob about wooden rubles ...
          1. AU Ivanov. 9 October 2019 09: 35 New
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            Salaries were paid in rubles. And in millions, before the denomination. Now not everyone will understand, the word "million" will cause shock for some, so the scale of salaries is through the buck.
        3. Avalex 9 October 2019 09: 32 New
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          So for a second, in rubles, remember the rate? And now in rubles. And all the answers to my koment shout: now is better. Even in bucks. You already decide worse every day or better ....
          1. AU Ivanov. 9 October 2019 09: 37 New
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            Better now. Much better than in the 90s. That in ruble, that in dollar equivalent.
  • Paul Siebert 8 October 2019 08: 04 New
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    I agree one hundred percent! The whole country enjoys the construction of new industrial giants - hyperverpheas, super oil refineries. And who are the owners of these super-enterprises? People? No! These owners do not care about us, about the country. If we die at work today, tomorrow they will hire Chinese.
    1. Stas157 8 October 2019 09: 04 New
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      Quote: Paul Siebert
      The whole country enjoys the construction of new industrial giants - hyperverpheas, super oil refineries. And who are the owners of these super-enterprises? People? No

      A landmark project for Russia, built on government loans and subsidies, Yamal-LNG, is half owned by Mikhelson. And to the other half - to the Chinese and French.

      I wonder why in such a grandiose project related to our bowels there was no room for Russian property?
      1. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 10: 06 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        I wonder why in such a grandiose project related to our bowels there was no room for Russian property?

        For a variety of Russian property, this is the same private property.
        1. Stas157 8 October 2019 11: 55 New
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          Quote: tihonmarine
          For a variety of Russian property, this is the same private property.

          The sad fact is that in Russia more and more state property is being transferred to private hands. The fattest pieces fall into the hands of the oligarchs. And the rest of the people have ... rather, it has no relation whatsoever. Ask any oligarch if he considers his property someone else's, for example, Russian? The answer is obvious.
          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          When was the people the owner of enterprises?

          More recently. And therefore it was a time of grandiose accomplishments. And now there are enterprises that did not manage to seize. They are still in state (understand in the public) ownership.
    2. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 10: 04 New
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      When was the people the owner of enterprises? The state was the owner of the production and do not confuse it with the people. National and then with a reservation, there were cooperative enterprises: collective farms, artels.
      1. Svarog 8 October 2019 10: 12 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        When was the people the owner of enterprises?

        Then, when all the profits from the "public domain" were deposited in the state budget, and not in the pockets of the "friends of the oligarchs" Then medicine was free and people managed to retire and they gave apartments for free, no one even remembers how much they paid for utilities, because , as it didn’t bother at all .. in general, when the state was for a person ..
        1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 10: 32 New
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          And she also squandered on crazy floodlights (one turn of rivers, which God didn’t carry out, which was worth it), on irrevocable assistance to various banana kings and on the construction of obviously unprofitable industries. Apartments? This is where, in large cities it was extremely difficult to get them. Medicine? Again, in large cities it’s normal, in district centers - wretched (my mother worked in the Central District Hospital), so I don’t know by hearsay: there was also a shortage of modern equipment and a shortage of medicines. Housing and communal services? A citizen was not the owner of the apartments, so why would he pay a high fee for KU. The ideal form of a truly national enterprise is when the employee is its shareholder, receives dividends and has the right to vote. There were no such enterprises under the Union, and not even now.
          1. Svarog 8 October 2019 10: 43 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            And also squandered on crazy floodlights (one turn of rivers, which God didn’t carry out, which cost), irrevocable assistance to various banana kings and the construction of obviously unprofitable industries

            But they didn’t realize it .. although I agree that there were a lot of mistakes .. Nevertheless, the state developed under socialism and the development was very serious .. Several new cities appeared in the year .. And now in 20 years, not a single platinum has been built ..use only the legacy of the USSR.
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Apartments? This is where, in large cities it was extremely difficult to get them.

            To get it quickly, you had to be ready to move .. My parents built KamAZ, I got a two-room apartment for two years .. And in large cities, yes, about 10 years, the queue, but it’s better than a bonded and lifelong mortgage ..
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Medicine? Again, in large cities it’s normal, in district centers - wretched (her mother worked in the Central District Hospital),

            In the regional centers it was also normal, wretched in the villages .. But now in general it is not in the villages .. yes, and the villages will not be soon ..
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            A citizen was not the owner of the apartments, so why would he pay a high fee for KU.

            What owner is he .. Try to accumulate debts for housing and communal services and say goodbye to property very quickly ..
            1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 11: 09 New
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              Again, where is how. I have a general practitioner’s office in my homeland in the village, with an ambulance and well-equipped machine (ultrasound, ventilator, etc., I was surprised myself) and the district hospital was at the level for three days, there was an injury, there were no problems. Development? Rather than development, but inertia after the Stalinist powerful jerk. Which gradually faded away.
              Well, and where was my grandfather and grandmother, who were born in St. Petersburg, to move, and my grandmother also served as a surgeon for the entire blockade in the naval hospital. So they lived in a room in a communal apartment, in addition to them, another 7 families. The area of ​​the room did not allow to queue for improvement. In Leningrad, almost a quarter of the population lived in communal apartments.
              1. Svarog 8 October 2019 11: 21 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Rather than development, but inertia after the Stalinist powerful jerk. Which gradually faded away.

                Yes, I completely agree. Under Stalin, the most powerful leap was made and it is unfortunate that no more leaders of this magnitude were found.
                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                In Leningrad, almost a quarter of the population lived in communal apartments.

                The second capital, like the first .. here, of course, is not easy. But even now a pensioner will not be able to take a mortgage .. in Moscow and St. Petersburg, so for pensioners nothing has changed in terms of housing. And the youth then, could choose either in a communal apartment to huddle or build new cities and get an apartment there ..
      2. Paul Siebert 8 October 2019 10: 15 New
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        In political economy, you are certainly strong. But I'm not talking about particulars. I am about the change of ownership of the means of production according to Marx. Change of economic formation. About another country.
      3. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 13: 20 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        The state was the owner of the production and do not confuse it with the people.

        There is nothing to confuse, this was already enshrined in the Constitution of the USSR. 5 Article. Socialist property in the USSR has either a form of state ownership (public property) or a form of cooperative-collective farm property (property of individual collective farms, property of cooperative associations).
    3. Saul_Rhen 8 October 2019 20: 34 New
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      What is the "People" with whom you all jump from branch to branch, and when it belonged to him. Tired of their religion.
  • Greg Miller 8 October 2019 10: 58 New
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    With ownership of the means of production it would be good to decide. But they won’t. Well, the bowels to whom in the country belong? Since milking in black, let them share. But again. Hardly. And to plow ... and so we plow like hell. So what?

    The horse worked the most on the collective farm, but did not become chairman ...
  • Vadim237 8 October 2019 12: 48 New
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    "And plow ... and so plow as hell. So what?" Judging by the fact that you are here from half past five in the morning - you do not need to work.
  • EvilLion 9 October 2019 08: 07 New
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    And what do you think, due to which your foreign car and all sorts of tank aircraft are funded? Due to the same Gazprom.
  • Thrifty 8 October 2019 05: 08 New
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    The author, well, shouted to the Kremlin? This government does not need an economically strong Russia, it is not needed at all. Otherwise, the Kremlin would have long gone from words to deeds. In the meantime, the supreme self and mediocrity number 2 in the government raised the salary, impoverished to see at all? ??
    1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 05: 43 New
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      The epigraph to this article:
      Our engine, go ahead!
      There is a stop in the commune.
      We have no other way -
      We have a rifle in our hands.
      1. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 06: 12 New
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        After the dashing and holy years, many changed our steam locomotive to a personal one. And it’s interesting to ask private traders where the stop of their personal engine is?
        1. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 06: 18 New
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          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          where is the stop of their personal engine?

          They moved to private yachts, planes for a long time and stopped at a marble mansion on the Cote d'Azur ...
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 06: 26 New
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            Well, that's what I say. They changed our engine to a personal one! And where will their personal engine stop? It looks like it is without brakes! recourse
            1. Vadim237 8 October 2019 13: 25 New
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              They no longer have steam locomotives, they have airplanes - so I have something to strive for.
        2. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 10: 12 New
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          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          And it’s interesting to ask private traders where the stop of their personal engine is?

          For a private trader, a stop is "infinity" (a mathematical term where two parallel lines do not intersect) as well as the greed of a "private owner"
      2. Paul Siebert 8 October 2019 08: 13 New
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        No, you did not understand the meaning of the article. The author calls not to fight the exploiters, but to work for them better! For a piece of bread, for a snuff of tobacco!
        1. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 10: 14 New
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          Quote: Paul Siebert
          The author calls not to fight the exploiters, but to work for them better!

          The article is the same media. The question is "in whose hands is the media?"
      3. Grandfather 8 October 2019 08: 38 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The epigraph to this article:
        Our engine, go ahead!
        There is a stop in the commune.
        We have no other way -
        We have a rifle in our hands.

    2. Far B 8 October 2019 06: 07 New
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      This government does not need an economically strong Russia, it is not needed at all.
      Of course not needed. Last kill. From the latter: it is proposed to offer the Ipshenniks the maximum tax. Note - offer! I present a picture - the tax is suitable for a private entrepreneur (the middle class, which is already dying out like a class, yeah), and says: “Van, now you have a minimum tax. And I offer you the maximum. How are you?” And Vanya, such: "Yes what the market is about ?! Kanneshna, I agree!".
      Something is completely rotten in ... well, say, in some heads.
      1. Non liberoid Russian 8 October 2019 06: 25 New
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        it’s easier for me to close and sell the service by sending 7 people to the employment service than to agree to such a thing)))) open it in my garage and make it purely familiar without any taxes ... it’s impossible to prove the fact of entrepreneurship at the FSF without a control purchase
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          it’s easier for me to close and sell the service

          Most likely it will be so ... News of the day:
          Quote: https://ria.ru/20191007/1559525056.html
          The Ministry of Economic Development proposed to increase taxes for small businesses by 2020% in 4,9, follows from the bill published on the portal of draft regulatory legal acts.
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          it’s easier for me to close and sell the service by sending people to the 7 employment service than to agree to this

          And again, everything converges to the founders of Marxism ..
          1. Non liberoid Russian 8 October 2019 12: 11 New
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            or burn so that no one gets .... not built by them and not own
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              Better ask - beginners in this matter.
  • SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 06: 03 New
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    << Sometimes it seems that a crisis is its natural state when it has no end and edge. And, actually, why? Why are we so dutifully used to it? >> Well, so capitalism however! Though! Everything is relative! Why is the crisis? For whom? After all, there are far from individual examples of personal enrichment! and then what is the crisis?
    << Friends, what do you think of the social capitalism project? >> And how does personal enrichment fit in with the enrichment of society?
    << But in order to take it right off the bat, you need to create the prerequisites and evaluate what is in the way? >> Good question damn it! Do Faberge really interfere (that is, money)? But the oligarchs have money like sand in the desert! What prevents them from investing in the development of society?
    << For this, pensions and social benefits must be fully maintained, curbing the predation of natural monopolies and housing and communal services. And do not allow banks and mobile operators to lift commissions for their air services. So that the money of the population does not fly into the pipe. They don’t exist, so let's limit greed. >> The president has already answered this question in a straight line. Damn, not socialism!
    << And do not be afraid that a strong ruble will kill exports. In China, the yuan did not kill, but vice versa. >> Fiercely plus the author for this thesis! Euro-dollar! Strongly different in course? In tsarist Russia, they paid 11 rubles for a dollar. Is today's Russia even worse than tsarist Russia? Well ** progress **! Hello to Gaidar and Chubais with Gorbachev and company!
    << In Russia, labor has long ceased to be a source of well-being. We even got the term: “working poor.” >> And this is a question for those who insist that it is necessary to work! Well!? What do you say about the exhaust? Do not work there? Should have been lawyers or financiers?
    << Nightingales do not feed fables. The priority here is jobs in production: in the city and in the countryside. Each of them provides 3-5 more jobs in the service sector. >> Well, that begs the question. And what should be done in the village and in the workplace? We have dashing and saints have already said about this. We ourselves are weak. Therefore, we will cover ourselves with a sheet and crawl to the bow (to the grave) to the West! The West will help us! Well yes! Just what? If you die, then always (help). What the West did!
    << To ride a steam engine, you must first start it, set it in motion. >> Yeah! Great! But didn’t we run ahead of the engine? Seems to have run. And he crushed us! Well, who is riding the engine today? The oligarchs? So they are already already vision (property), our incredible partners deprive! Well, who is our driver?
    << It's time to know the value of yourself and your country, because they have one. And to get rich, it is not necessary to squander it. >> Oddly enough, they know the price! And squander! We will not let Europe buy expensive American gas !!! It’s going to fight! wassat
  • samarin1969 8 October 2019 06: 15 New
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    "The liberals have entered into an asocial alliance with society: we do what we want at the top, but you don’t want anything below and don’t do it" ... indeed!

    Only preaching in an economic brothel makes no sense. The voice of the next "Campanella".
    Politics is a matter of power. And her author will not be allowed ... to take.
    1. tihonmarine 8 October 2019 12: 14 New
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      Liberals form an asocial alliance with society

      Rather, they did not enter into an alliance, but simply imposed it, without the right to appeal.
  • Per se. 8 October 2019 06: 18 New
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    Socialism Capitalism
    Dear Anton, it seems that your postulate is the original utopia. If you rephrase the classic, then living in capitalism, and being free from its laws, is impossible. World capitalism has long been established, to build a kind of "parallel capitalism" in Russia, along the way having met the oligarchic brothers, is a naive dream. It is hardly correct to recall Sweden, already worn in examples, with its "social capitalism". Russia is not the kingdom of Sweden, which can live in the shadow of transnational monopolies and the master of the system of world capitalism. Nobody will allow Russia to be so happy, do not console yourself with illusions. Switzerland, which could live peacefully when two world wars blazed nearby, is not an example for us either.

    Also, one of the favorite examples of many, China, which pulled the Soviet Union out of the mud, covered and helped. In the "gratitude" after gaining events in Damansky. It was after this that the West suddenly “forgot” both about “commies” and about Chinese “socialism”, without further ado, relying on Chinese nationalists, as the new anti-USSR is already in the east, instead of defeated by Nazi Germany (anti- USSR in the west).

    As Hitler was allowed to violate all the restrictions of Versailles, turned a blind eye to the takeover of Austria (Anschluss), gave Czechoslovakia, after the “strange war” further and virtually all of Europe, so the “red” China was allowed to pump up power, turning a blind eye to terrible piracy and technology theft. The Chinese "National Communists" are far more dangerous than the German National Socialists. Where there is nationalism, there can be no communism that is a priori international. Flirting with China, for us is no better than a “friendship” with the Third Reich, these are the original anti-USSR, anti-Russia, specially created and financed by the West to destroy Russia. The Chinese military will not go to the bottom of the ocean in the United States, it won’t even sail on ships, the rich and empty lands of Russia are nearby.

    Now about our happiness, it is possible only at the pole independent of world capitalism, that is, in revived socialism. There is still no need for demagogy, the laws of mathematics are the same, what capitalism uses is not the merit of capitalism itself as a system, it is the merit of competent management, the use of the achievements of science and technology, in this socialism has incomparably greater potential, and no "social capitalism" is will replace.
    1. Mordvin 3 8 October 2019 06: 27 New
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      Quote: Per se.
      Also, one of the favorite examples of many, China, which pulled the Soviet Union out of the mud, covered and helped. In the "gratitude" after gaining events in Damansky.

      Let's remember why China quarreled with the USSR. It all started with Khrushchev's report "On the cult of personality ..." Stalin in China is still respected.
      1. Per se. 8 October 2019 06: 42 New
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        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Stalin in China is still respected.
        Vladimir, in big politics, respect for an individual is not the most important thing, all the more so because the older generation, and not young people, descendants of Hongweibs, have more respect for it. In pre-war Germany, too, many loved and respected Lenin, were anti-fascists, moreover, the Hitler party came to power as a German workers' national socialist party. But, socialism for the Germans, did not imply socialism for the Russians. In China, there is nationalism, there is a bet on world hegemony, these are very dangerous, significant indicators, therefore, friendship with China should be not only carefully, but very carefully. Only our buy-sell it on the drum, as apparently and in general, for momentary ratings from our politicians.
        1. Mordvin 3 8 October 2019 07: 35 New
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          Quote: Per se.
          There is nationalism in China, there is a bet on world hegemony

          And I don’t argue with that.
        2. Vadim237 8 October 2019 13: 31 New
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          The world has not changed - they respect and reckon only with the strong.
    2. Uncle lee 8 October 2019 06: 42 New
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      Quote: Per se.
      and the "red" China was allowed to pump power,

      Sergei hi I agree with your thesis! Only the Union, without servility before the West, could survive and develop! But “our partners” do not need a strong Russia, they are not needed at all.
      1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 13: 38 New
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        Let me remind you: the Union did not survive, it fell apart. Yes, and the development after the 50s went downward, until it turned into stagnation.
        1. Campanella 8 October 2019 14: 30 New
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          Let me remind you according to your logic, capitalism should have died many times. They have a crisis, this is their mother, they only trained their sheep that this is the norm of their life and live on milking the sheep further.
          1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 14: 51 New
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            Capitalism was buried more than a dozen times, and even its grave digger was appointed. However, he is more alive than all living things. But socialism is more likely dead than alive, if you do not take into account the DPRK with Cuba, where a sane person is unlikely to strive. China is hardly an example of socialism; it is too specific there with a national - Confucian color. And to call the Chinese economy with private ownership of the means of production socialist, for example, I don’t turn
    3. Plantagenet 8 October 2019 07: 53 New
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      “When the stratification of society began and part of it began to enrich rapidly, in principle two types of reaction were possible. The first (Soviet, but having much more ancient roots in Russia than Bolshevism): “a neighbor bought a Mercedes and builds a villa - you need to kill such bourgeois!” Second: “if this bastard could make such“ money ”, then what I worse than him? ”Fortunately for Russia, most young people preferred the second type of reaction, otherwise we would have had a civil war for a long time. Namely, the youth can be discussed, because the old generation, pensioners, veterans, the unemployed, the poor, who have not been able to find a niche in the new society - they all have neither enough energy, nor organization. Youth chose a career, business. ”

      Georgy Ilyich Mirsky “Life in three eras”
      1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 11: 27 New
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        Well, that's right: the second way is much more worthy of the first. Instead of “take away and divide”, “catch up and overtake”. It is very good that young people think that way.
        1. Plantagenet 8 October 2019 11: 33 New
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          Who will say what is good, someone what is bad. But youth thinks so. Therefore, in the near future, a civil war does not threaten us. However IMHO.
          1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 11: 46 New
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            All hope for youth. Their heads are free from dogma and stereotypes. And there are many bright heads among them, no matter what they say. Where to invest money? Here and invest in their young.
        2. Essex62 8 October 2019 12: 16 New
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          The restoration of capitalism began precisely from the first. They took it from the people of the USSR and divided among themselves using methods in any law-abiding society called bandit. And what about all those Mirsky listed in the landfill? But nothing that all that you use in this country with my hands created?
          1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 12: 36 New
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            What was taken from you? An apartment? So she did not belong to you. They, it seems, were given out to the property for free. Car? Also confiscated? Did you own the property and take it away? Company? So what was taken from you? The enterprises, I recall, belonged to the state.
            1. Svarog 8 October 2019 13: 47 New
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              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              So what was taken from you? The enterprises, I recall, belonged to the state.

              Pensions were taken away, "people's property" was taken away, factories, lands, all this was general, state, and it became private .. and now they take away free medicine, education .. and much more will be taken away .. But most importantly, they took away confidence in tomorrow the bottom. Now you should be in a state of anxiety, because if you lose your job at 45 and beyond .. then you have huge problems ..
              1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 14: 21 New
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                Well, there was no "national" heritage. There was state property and the people did not dispose of it. About confidence in the future: it was in the 50s-60s, maybe in the early 70s, then I was too shallow to judge. But in the 80s this very confidence abruptly disappeared - the farther, the worse, in the mid-80s, in my small Homeland, interruptions with BREAD started! (I’m silent about the rest) Remember the joke from the 80s: "We live like in a fairy tale - the further, the worse." I affirm and will affirm that socialism ended in the 60s, the opportunity to reform the economy was missed, and then only down. By the way, the issue of pension reform with increasing retirement age was first raised by the Ryzhkov government under Mechen. Implementing it was a matter of time.
                1. IS-80_RVGK2 8 October 2019 22: 04 New
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  Was state property

                  Thinly poor state property worked for the people. And now she works mainly for the private trader. And even if you accept what you said for the truth, what the hell 10 percent divided it among themselves by throwing the remaining 90? Do not ride your demagoguery try again.
                  1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 22: 12 New
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                    That’s just the point, both bad and poor. And about the quality - I am silent. For some reason, people preferred imported.
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2 8 October 2019 23: 55 New
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                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      That’s just the point, both bad and poor. And about the quality - I am silent. For some reason, people preferred imported.

                      In general, it’s clear. For your personal well-being, you forgave the robbery of an entire country. But then no noisy if that. To people like you no pity.
            2. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 17: 27 New
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              And what did capitalism give? Can the conquests of capitalism be announced? Are multi-month and multi-year loan queues a remarkable achievement? Abroad makes us cars, and the Chinese produce consumer goods for us. Then we ourselves launched the satellite and man, and today we cannot cooperate with partners. We can’t even provide food. Everything is on substitutes. If not for palm oil, they would die of hunger.
              1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 18: 12 New
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                What did capitalism give? Normal goods. An opportunity to buy these goods, even on credit. Do not wait until someone comes down to you and allocates housing. Food, by the way, exists without substitutes, and ours, domestic, is simply more expensive, but you do not need to stand in lines for it. A decent range of services, from car services to hotel rooms. The opportunity to earn, here, however, is who knows how, who has learned what. Freedom of movement, finally.
                1. SOVIET UNION 2 8 October 2019 20: 42 New
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                  Are these normal ones that are disposable? Even on cars, they limit the resource to buy new ones. Relatively new products are already a problem to repair in service centers. No spare parts. Mortgage is also not given to everyone. It is still necessary to dodge to take it. Then, for many years, you have been using the bank’s housing to pay outrageous money. If you haven’t died in 30 years, then you get a building ready for major repairs. Goods on credit and installments is not speculation? Is it okay to overpay for goods? The opportunity to accumulate, does this mean the bad life of a loser? And overpay on loans is it to be successful? Repayment of loans is not the turn? Or do we not notice this queue? And what shortage of goods do not see today? How many times have I come across that what is needed in the store is not. Why can't the bourgeois provide goods? Is there internet !? You can write it out! Oh well! Is this turn from weeks to months also not noticed? What is expensive and high-quality food, I agree. But why is it not available to everyone? What, began to plow with wooden plow and decreased productivity? Was there a problem in the Union to leave somewhere? Today, planes no longer fly to other places, and there are no planes. And with river shipping there is no recovery. In other villages, even buses cancel, it is not profitable. Good freedom of movement! And if you have a mortgage? Where are you going?
      2. Stas157 8 October 2019 12: 15 New
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        Quote: Plantagenet
        The first (Soviet, but having much more ancient roots in Russia than Bolshevism): "a neighbor bought a Mercedes and builds himself a villa - it’s necessary to kill bourgeois! ”

        Khrushchev’s neighbor bought a used Mercedes (well, or a new one on credit), why kill him? He must be pitied! An expensive car is troublesome and expensive to maintain.

        But when the oligarch, who is not our neighbor at all, stole half the country, this is a completely different matter. Why are you lowering oligarchs and high officials to the level of neighbors, without forgetting to invent a kind of “Soviet” type of reaction in which neighbors are killed?
        1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 12: 40 New
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          Well, you think so. But the Sharikovs are different. I'm homeless in a garbage dump, but do you live in an apartment? Make fun of yourself! I ride a Lada Grant, and you have a Toyota, and even a new one? Give it back! You built a house in the country, broke down, but did it? And I live in Halabud, thump. Here you have a red rooster!
      3. Campanella 8 October 2019 16: 18 New
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        Not everything is as simple as Mr. Comrade Mirsky described. I would say he was deeply mistaken.
        Everyone who could tear the throats of others and go over the corpses did it and one of them managed to rise to some heights, and the losers rested in a Bose. Worldly, of course, a famous person, but not an icon.
  • nikvic46 8 October 2019 06: 34 New
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    "Tired of talking and arguing ..." A lot has appeared to those that are difficult to answer. There is an effective measure in the world that will cut off black cash at least temporarily. This is monetary reform. Moreover, it’s short. Those who have honest money will not suffer. Any cultivated plant needs to be cultivated, cultivated. And if everything is left to the mercy of fate, then the wild woman will grow.
    1. Den717 8 October 2019 07: 25 New
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      This is a monetary reform. Moreover, a short one. Those who have honest money will not suffer.

      Each reform, especially monetary, strains the ordinary consumer. Even with the availability of legal financial reserves, it “sticks” to saving and cutting costs, because with reforms, confidence in the future suffers first. At these moments, consumer demand drops to a minimum, and production collapses like an avalanche. And after these reforms, survivors throughout their remaining active lives remember it and do not trust the state. As a result, today the population has at its disposal savings in all types of financial assets that the financial community can calculate, such as bank accounts in rubles and foreign currency, securities, and cash under the pillow for almost two annual budgets of the country. But the state cannot push the population to long-term investments. Why? Is it money reform, like Pavlovskaya? As for the essence of the article, it was certainly not written by an economist. If he does not understand that "olympiads, fiestas and other tinsel, not so cheap" is an artificially created demand for domestic production, then all his further arguments are nothing more than free arguments of a high school graduate about life in general, etc. e. about anything specific. Banality for the money of the publisher. Frankly, it is dreary to read these pearls.
      Quote: nikvic46
      "Tired of talking and arguing ..." A lot has appeared to those that are difficult to answer.

      I totally agree. However, it is not clear why such articles of these "broad specialists" are posted? Is it really impossible to attract real specialists who are able not only to spread mantras about “crises” on the walls, but also to popularly explain socially resonant news, at least the same pension system of the country and its environs, or the tax system that everyone is trying to talk about without any idea. Or are such authors asking for excessive fees?
      1. Ingvar 72 8 October 2019 07: 54 New
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        Quote: Den717
        As a result, today the population has at its disposal savings in all types of financial assets that the financial community can calculate, such as bank accounts in rubles and foreign currency, securities, and cash under the pillow for almost two annual budgets of the country.

        I already answered you on another thread about savings. A third of the population is in loans, and if there is money under their pillows, they do not take loans.
        1. Den717 8 October 2019 07: 58 New
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          A third of the population in loans

          And the remaining two-thirds are not the population? Don't you have to work with him? It does not need to be taken into account?
          1. Ingvar 72 8 October 2019 08: 04 New
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            The calculation must begin with the fact that the amount of accumulation must be pononalized divided into groups. Those. make a table where the number of people with savings of more than a million, more than 500 tr, and less will be visible.
            And since you imagine it, we all eat cabbage rolls. laughing
            1. Den717 8 October 2019 08: 26 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Those. make a table

              Well, make up if you need ... The data that I quoted was taken from the Internet, they are in the public domain.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And since you imagine it, we all eat cabbage rolls.

              I am far from cooking, I do not care what you eat. One thing is clear, the population has money, and not small. We need a program of mutually beneficial and guaranteed cooperation between the state and the population. This has already happened in many countries - domestic loan bonds. It is only necessary to guarantee risk insurance and convince the population of these guarantees. True media, incl. VO, recently diligently does the opposite.
              1. Svarog 8 October 2019 09: 18 New
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                Quote: Den717
                It is only necessary to guarantee risk insurance and convince the population of these guarantees.

                I beg you .. after so many “kiddies” you still want to convince and reform ...
                Quote: Den717
                One thing is clear, the population has money, and not small.

                Does the population have money? But economists think differently, they say that there is no money and the debts on loans are catastrophic, reaching 14 trillion. rubles, and 40% of them are no longer repayable .. Where does the population get money if demand falls annually? There is no need to even be an economist, it is enough to have logic ..
                1. Den717 8 October 2019 09: 39 New
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                  Does the population have money? But economists think differently, they say that there is no money and the debts on loans are catastrophic, reaching 14 trillion. rub, and 40% of them are no longer refundable ..

                  Gazeta.ru: "..... Just like deposits, the amount of funds held by Russians in securities is growing. At the beginning of September, they accounted for 5 trillion rubles.
                  The total amount of cash savings of the population in August reached 32,4 trillion rubles. This is about 31% of GDP.
                  Neither Rosstat nor the Central Bank know how much currency is in the hands of the population. According to the Central Bank, the volume of foreign currency deposits in credit institutions as of September 1 of this year amounted to 6 trillion rubles, or approximately $ 90 billion. Based on the ratio of cash rubles and the volume of ruble deposits, Russians can hold up to $ 25 billion in stash ..... "
                  1. Lannan Shi 8 October 2019 17: 28 New
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                    Quote: Den717
                    The total amount of cash savings of the population in August reached 32,4 trillion rubles.

                    There is such a production of Natura Siberik. For example, in Dmitrov. There is his master and hard workers. If you take an average, then there is a 101 dollar millionaire. And if you look closely ... Then there are exactly 1 millionaires, and 100 people plow in the chemical industry, receiving 82 re per hour, and sleep in turn, because 1 bed relies on two.
                    And your lamentations about the general accumulations ... They are the tale of cabbage rolls. For a hundred plowing for food and a bed, deeply do not care, 100 lam or 500, this year, Mr. Trubnikov got used to it. They will then get a maximum on loan installments, well, or cheaper clothes. But certainly not on deposits and promotions.
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                      If you take an average, then there is a 101 dollar millionaire. And if you look closely ... Then there are exactly 1 millionaires, and 100 people plow in the chemical industry, receiving 82 re per hour

                      If you want to reasonably talk about the standard of living in the country or some part of it, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the basics of sociology, and not shed tears about the average earnings of a janitor’s regiment headed by an oil magnate. Do not suffer from primitivism. I won’t teach you how to live, but it’s advisable to delve into the topic before discussing it, and not to shove the average stuffed cabbage soaked in tears.
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                        Quote: Den717
                        If you want to reasonably talk about the standard of living in the country or some part of it, I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the basics of sociology,

                        And I recommend you stick your nose out of non-rubber. And see the differences between the textbook and life.
                        Quote: Den717
                        instead of shedding tears about the average earnings of the janitors regiment

                        Do you have something against janitors? Are you pigs and can't live clean? By the way. Janitors are citizens of the Russian Federation. They are guaranteed by laws and the constitution an 8-hour working day and salary. This time.
                        Further. Without janitors, bakers, combines and other stokers, you just die. The only question is why. From hunger, cold, or drown in shit .., oh, forty, in waste products. But the lack of sociologists like you ... The human race simply will not notice. Simply put - they are the backbone of humanity, and you are a parasite in the body. Well, or at best - nail polish. Beautiful, nice, but to the survival of the body in no way. And you have no moral right to despise those who make you alive. By the way. Half of those who feed you receive less than 25.000. Despite the fact that in the food industry 12 working days and six days are more likely than the exception. These are two.
                        Well, three. Actually about savings. 12,9% of the population live on a living wage and less. Another 28,3% for 1-2 PM. 20,9% for 2-3 PM. Only 61,1% cannot theoretically save. For the official PM is a quiet extinction. And the real minimum is twice as high. 26,7% have from 3 to 6 PM. Here are the richest of them ... Think you are putting off? Not. Loans repay. And they postpone the last 11,2%, with revenues from 6 PM. And that’s not all. And the picture of society is extremely simple. 5-7% of those elected have deposits of 36 trillion, and the remaining 93-95% of 16 trillion of debts. And the grave of 10 thousand grandmothers from which Samara, or 30 for the first installment for a car, Rostov combine, in these statistics - the error. And nothing more. And the growth of accumulation only says that the rich have become even richer. There is reason to be glad.
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                        And I recommend you stick your nose out of non-rubber.

                        I stuck my nose out of the "non-rubber" 35 years ago, 3000 km beyond my height.
                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        Do you have something against janitors?

                        For the slow-witted, the janitor is cited as an example as one of the least paid professions, for the grotesque of calculating the average salary. And moderate your ardor in protecting the poor and the humble. I despise not those who work, it does not matter in which profession, but those who, apart from moaning about their poor lives, cannot take any free time.
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                        Actually about savings.

                        We have 2 PM - 32. My janitors, movers and others who do not have training and qualifications receive at least 000. Consider the rest yourself. Personal fleet in Russia is 23 cars per 200 population, two years ago it was 330. Despite the fact that public transport, as a rule, works quite confidently. This is me to the fact that our car is not an essential item, such as in the United States.
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                        the growth of accumulation only means that the rich have become richer.

                        And here I do not agree with you. There are some methods of calculating the level of stratification of society by income. Studies show that we have this level high enough to draw attention to it. But over the past 5-7 years, there has been no trend towards sharp growth. You can believe the statistics, you can not believe it, but neither I nor you have other data. If you want to understand whether the people of Russia live well or poorly, try to get away from contemplating the surroundings to studying the issue on a certain general scale. Not always what we personally see from the window reflects the state of the country as a whole.
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                        Quote: Den717
                        for the grotesque of calculating the average sn

                        Grotesque Mlyn? Open job sites, regional. You will be grotesque.
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                        And moderate your ardor in protecting the poor and the humble.

                        Yes Yes. They did not fit into the market, and should die.
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                        Personal fleet in Russia 330 cars per 1000 population, two years ago it was 305.

                        A family of homeless mattresses from a trailer fleet can have 3 or 4 cars. Each has 1 car per license. And the clerks from NU - 1 per family. In Albania, by the way, there is more cars per capita than in Singapore. The relationship between the car per capita, and the standard of living, in principle, is not observed.
                        Quote: Den717
                        This is me to the fact that our car is not an essential item, such as in the United States.

                        The house is opposite me. Husband, wife, adult son, his wife. 3 cars. They are not an essential item. It’s just that without them, the father will get to work for about 3 hours, the son is about 4-5, and his wife is 1,5. But transport yes, it works confidently.
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                        Not always what we personally see from the window reflects the state of the country as a whole.

                        Over the 8 years that she was an engineer in road construction, she looked at 7 areas. And not from the glamorous facade, but from the inside. And the hard workers gathered from Altai to Brest, and from Kirov to Dagestan. And chatting with them did not disdain. And my window is not like your window.
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                        But over the past 5-7 years, there has been no trend towards sharp growth.

                        Rosstat open. The share of 20% of the rich in sn. 2013 46,7. Now 48,2.
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                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        Grotesque Mlyn?

                        Yes, grotesque. And where did you see my disrespect for the janitors? In a sore imagination? Do you create enemies for yourself to be touched by a verbal skirmish? Don’t even remember about sites with vacancies; there was an experience to rely on sites. Thank God, I was smart enough to check the information from the site on the ground first. The distance is huge.
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                        They did not fit into the market, and should die.

                        This is your thought. I have not expressed this, do not ascribe to me your fantasies.
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                        A family of homeless mattresses from a trailer fleet may have 3 or 4 cars.

                        How long have you lived among these 4-car homeless people? Or Fuck TV seen enough? I periodically communicate with my former drinking companion, who moved there for permanent residence. Everything is a bit different than on TV. But one cannot even get to work even within the boundaries of the 20th city. I will not discuss about Albania and Singapore, I have not seen it.
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                        The house is opposite me. Husband, wife, adult son, his wife. 3 cars. They are not an essential item. It’s just that without them, the father will get to work for about 3 hours, the son is about 4-5, and his wife is 1,5.

                        Are you and your neighbor living near Noginsk? Yes, there can be problems in a millionaire, but a separate incident is not yet a reflection of the system. There was a thing, I went to work for almost an hour and a half, got tired, moved to the city for less, began to walk for 20 minutes. And this is also not an indicator. Isolated examples do not prove anything and do not refute anything. Three quarters of the population lives in cities more compact than Moscow or Novosibirsk.
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                        And my window is not like your window.

                        Window-vents, what do you know about them, what is a couple or not a couple? They imagined a lot about themselves. 7 areas and what? Log, out, half the world swam, but the captain did not. You will not see more neighboring buildings from your window anyway. You like to sigh about a hopeless life, well, sigh to your health ... From your home, as I understand it.
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                        The share of 20% of the rich in sn. 2013 46,7. Now 48,2.

                        And is this all your vision of the situation in modern society? Did you describe the country in three digits? The wretchedness of thought ...
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                        For 8 years that she has been engineer in road construction

                        Thought and decided to add a little. Apparently you are a person with experience and education above average. And therefore, I think you fully understand that the questions raised in the correspondence belong to the category of sociology, i.e. highly specialized. And here, as in any science, a special method of searching for truth should prevail (unless of course there is such a task). In this case, it is necessary to use the so-called "sociological thinking", which differs from the experience of personal perception of the world. In this case, this personal experience is more harmful than helping. To understand the true, or close to this, state of society and its life, we need to delve into the theory that allows us to see the general in the particular and find regular relationships between them, read and correctly interpret the statistics, while not just separate numbers, but the ratios of different parameters. After all, sociology is not "just chatting on emotions, it is mathematics, a lot of formulas and indices. To see trends in society, you need to discuss the topic on the concepts of Theil, Gini and other Atkinsons. I repeat if the goal is not to" chat ", but to find the essence. While we are just chatting, each about his own, the author of the article is also not a sociologist, and also about his own, but no one is about a real vision of the problem.
  • parusnik 8 October 2019 06: 39 New
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    When they curse the liberals who hinder everyone, primarily the government, the question arises: who are the liberals? A secret order that stands behind the power and whispers in your ear, what should I do? laughing
    1. Svarog 8 October 2019 09: 21 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      When they curse the liberals who hinder everyone, primarily the government, the question arises: who are the liberals? A secret order that stands behind the power and whispers in your ear, what should I do? laughing

      Or maybe the government is sick with schizophrenia? laughing wassat
      1. Essex62 8 October 2019 11: 38 New
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        And why is this power of the population’s investment, let’s say in capsules holding an amount equal to or exceeding the budget? She has her own little egg, which has exceeded all reasonable limits of necessity. No, definitely the task set by the owner - to grind the competitor into powder is carried out with zeal and tirelessly. Russia spoiled the Anglo-Saxon evil spirits in all historical eras. In the twentieth century. this has already happened, if the Bolsheviks had not stopped the process with an iron hand.
        Weak article. And it’s not because it wasn’t a pro who wrote that they are Liberman current economics, for the most part the deviation of their professionalism is appropriate.
        There is not and cannot be any human capitalism. If you dig a pit and drain the water, all the nearby rivers, streams and ponds will become shallow there.
        Aligarchs in a steam locomotive the author offers in vain. This is completely beyond the comprehension of life. Even if what kind of Sava Morozov is sought after by heirs and hangers-on, accustomed to a sweet life, they will tear apart the breadwinner, but will not allow it.
  • armata_armata 8 October 2019 06: 47 New
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    Friends, what do you think of the project of social capitalism?

    Hah, what do you think of a cannibal vegetarian? There is no social capitalism; capitalism does not imply this trend
    1. Saul_Rhen 8 October 2019 20: 47 New
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      Look at life in the Scandinavian countries and don’t hurt bullshit
      1. armata_armata 8 October 2019 20: 58 New
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        Look at life in the countries of Scandinavia

        This is where social guarantees during the Cold War took on fears that the proletariat would arrange a small revolution and join the hated USSR, and now they are thinking of getting rid of this heritage ...
        Yes, social capitalism can only be under pain of destruction. wink
        1. Saul_Rhen 8 October 2019 21: 11 New
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          Well, frank nonsense, why write something?
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          In Sweden, social guarantees were still present at the end of the 19th century. And why should the Swedes have such masochism - join the USSR?
      2. Mordvin 3 8 October 2019 21: 28 New
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        Look at life in the Scandinavian countries and don’t hurt bullshit

        And who's rubbish here? Take Breivik. This pretzel owed the bank almost 50 thousand bucks. After which he dashed Mein Kampf and went to shoot their analogue of Nashi.
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          What side is a loner terrorist to a standard of living? Just to write? In Russia, in the USSR there were no killers?
          1. Mordvin 3 10 October 2019 00: 32 New
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            What side is a loner terrorist to a standard of living?

            Direct. Remember Breivik’s ideology, or don’t you even know it?
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              But from this place in more detail. Answer without twists and twists
              What side is a loner terrorist to a standard of living?
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                Quote: Saul_Rhen
                But from this place in more detail.

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                Answer without twists and twists

                And why am I going to answer and explain, if someone doesn’t remember horseradish, or doesn’t know horseradish? Anyway. In short, Breivik was dissatisfied with the state’s policy when it accepts guest workers, pays them benefits, and the indigenous population drives them into bondage (is it familiar, no?). On this occasion, he wrote a manifest on 320 pages (he searched, didn’t find anywhere, cleaned up well, I remember that Karl called him crazy about this, it’s not clear why the manifest was deleted everywhere), he also demanded that the trial be open (but figs to you), but he shot the party that we have a similar gathering at Seliger and the authorities sings hosannah.
                1. Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 14: 40 New
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                  And why am I going to answer and explain, if someone doesn’t remember horseradish, or doesn’t know horseradish?
                  I told you not to grimace.
                  Breivik could write anything, but the standard of living in the countries of Scandinavia, where terrible inhuman capitalism, did not get any worse. And the standard of living in the Soviet "paradise" with fair socialism against its background looks simply wretched.
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                    I told you not to grimace.

                    Speak to your wife.
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                    but the standard of living in the countries of Scandinavia, where terrible inhuman capitalism, did not get worse from this.

                    So Breivik hid in a three-room prison, if only not to pay loans.
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                    And the standard of living in the Soviet "paradise" with fair socialism against its background looks simply wretched.

                    Facts in the studio. Housing and communal services, for example, the unemployment rate.
  • 3vs
    3vs 8 October 2019 07: 23 New
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    News in topic:
    In Russia, proposed to maximize taxes on small businesses

    The Ministry of Economic Development proposed to increase taxes for small businesses by 2020 percent in 4,9. This is reported by RBC owned by Grigory Berezkin, who studied the relevant document on the Federal Portal of draft regulatory legal acts.
    If the project is approved, the single tax on imputed income (UTII), patent and trade fee will increase. At the same time, UTII will grow the most in five years - in 2015, this tax increased by 7,5 percent.

    What awaits us in the 2020 year: new taxes and online banking tracking
    According to experts of the publication, UTII is the most popular tax regime in the small business sector, and the next increase will unsettle many entrepreneurs. Analysts suggest that the increase in the tax burden will hit entrepreneurs in the field of trade hardest.

    According to the Federal Tax Service, from 2013 to 2017, the year tax revenues to the consolidated budget grew by almost 60 percent, although the basic tax rates remained unchanged at that time.

    In real terms, the increase in tax revenues was equal to 19,9 percent, GDP accumulated over five years, GDP growth amounted to only 1,2 percent. The ministry believes that the increase in tax revenues is associated precisely with the work to “whitewash” the economy.

    Real disposable incomes of the population fall year by year, and since 2014 of the year they have fallen by 8,3 percent. According to the results of 2019 of the year, the Ministry of Economic Development expects that revenues will hardly grow.

    A source:
    news.mail.ru/politics/39004764/?frommail=1
    1. And
      And 8 October 2019 09: 11 New
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      hi Sometimes it seems that in the economic bloc of our government there are people who not only did not receive higher education, but also did not graduate from high school. And operate with formulas from elementary classes. In their opinion, if a certain number of people (in this case, entrepreneurs) regularly paid tax at a single rate, then the same amount will pay at an increased rate, and accordingly, the amount of taxes collected will increase. But this will not happen, because the number of entrepreneurs will decrease, people will close their businesses due to overwork.
      As for the article on the account of the author’s first and second suggestions on increasing supply and demand - as an example, for example: increased VAT by 1%, reduce the tax rate paid by the employer with payroll tax by 2%, with a mandatory increase in payroll tax by this amount.
    2. Svarog 8 October 2019 09: 24 New
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      News in topic:
      In Russia, proposed to maximize taxes on small businesses

      And what else to expect from these? .. They are only able to prohibit, not let go and rob ..
      Small and medium-sized businesses are breathing in the air .. and so it will be bent, they just want to rid it of agony ..
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        Small business is cheating with taxes - they will cheat with this 4,9% tax increase - nothing will change in the procession.
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        And then these grief patriotic state thinkers begin to get upset that the people are rocking the state boat.
        But I would classify their initiatives as treason and an attempt on the foundations of statehood.
        In fact, their law should be strictly punished for the fact that they intentionally worsen the standard of living of people.
        But it is precisely these traitors who bake the laws in our country, and therefore we live from revolution to revolution.
    3. Essex62 8 October 2019 11: 48 New
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      . They themselves pour water on the mill of the destruction of the counter-revolution in Russia, the main backup is kicked out from under the social system. People who have believed and managed, having overcome all the bureaucratic obstacles, create and develop their own business are very active in life. This cannot be taken away from them, although they are alien to the class. Having become embittered and having lost faith in the detonator, they can become easily.
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        People who have believed and managed, having overcome all the bureaucratic obstacles, create and develop their own business are very active in life. This cannot be taken away from them, although they are alien to the class. Having become embittered and having lost faith in the detonator, they can become easily.

        I absolutely agree .. these people are passionate and just in time they can act as a detonator ..
  • mark2 8 October 2019 07: 48 New
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    People who can’t figure out their life as a stapnchik put forward theories about how to govern the country.
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      People who can’t figure out their life as a stapnchik put forward theories about how to govern the country.

      No people just do not like how those who "can figure out" in their life, sort out their lives ..
      1. Vadim237 8 October 2019 13: 42 New
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        Only one person understands your life - it's you.
        1. Campanella 8 October 2019 14: 16 New
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          If a person lived on a desert island, then it would be so. And here we are talking about society, if you do not understand.
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            Your life is your island - and you are in charge of it, everything else is applied, only this requires your efforts.
  • Million 8 October 2019 07: 49 New
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    But who needs this, Putin and Medvedev? They, by and large, do not care if they are in power and have a good rating, even if they’re bloated
  • Million 8 October 2019 07: 51 New
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    Quote: parusnik
    When they curse the liberals who hinder everyone, primarily the government, the question arises: who are the liberals? A secret order that stands behind the power and whispers in your ear, what should I do? laughing

    In legal terms, the principles of liberalism are the rule of law over the will of rulers and the equality of all citizens before the law, regardless of their wealth, position and influence
  • rocket757 8 October 2019 07: 56 New
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    From empty to empty ....
    To understand / understand (I don’t offer studies, it seems like everyone is literate)!
    Set a goal, tasks and begin to act / work!
  • prior 8 October 2019 08: 07 New
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    "Capitalism with a social face" is in fact the same as a cannibal-vegetarian.
  • hhhhhhh 8 October 2019 08: 09 New
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    "Socially oriented capitalism" is another naive article about the right capitalism in our country, which is not right.
    Capitalism is the same everywhere. At all times.
    Karl Marx in the book Capital
    Quote:
    "Provide capital with 10% profit, and the capital agrees to any use, with 20% it becomes lively, with 50% it is positively ready to break its head, with 100% it violates all human laws, with 300% there is no crime for which it does not would venture to go, at least under fear of the gallows "
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    Some garbage. "Our economists" ..... everyone understands that nothing happens. it is necessary to drive everyone, to recruit real scientists. And this is a four-day week .... all this is not good.
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      A four-day week is like that, thoughts in the ear and nothing more.
  • Avior 8 October 2019 08: 50 New
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    the ability to see the golden ratio

    It seems that the author does not quite understand what the golden ratio is.
    This is not a middle ground, as he seems to think.
    The Golden Ratio is a division into two unequal parts.
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      Quote: Avior
      It seems that the author does not quite understand what the golden ratio is.

      The author may have used the wrong term, but those in power do this on purpose. So it turns out, speaking without a ban, “social in the face”, cabbage rolls are equally divided - with one cabbage and another with meat. :)
  • Alexander Ra 8 October 2019 09: 09 New
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    A seemingly concrete title question for the article, but the text of the panoramic non-specific review is quite superficial. The response will be the same as in the children's kaleidoscope before the eyes, infinitely diverse.
  • Whowhy 8 October 2019 09: 10 New
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    To move a cart in Russia, you need only three (!) Things:

    And in our government, as in that joke:
    Dad sends down son to the store:
    - Son, remember, you need to buy three things: bread, sugar and milk. Repeat.
    - Three things: bread sugar and milk, dad.
    - Well done!
    Son returns from the store with toilet paper. Upset Dad:
    “Son, I asked you to buy three things.” Three things!
    - Yes, dad.
    - Why didn’t you buy soap and a toothbrush ???
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      Yes, the May Decree .... wink
  • Homos 8 October 2019 10: 01 New
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    Capitalism involves maximizing profits and minimizing costs. Whatever premise capitalism is, it will adhere to this formula. The most that "socially oriented capitalism" is capable of is to do everything with a smile, because smile is free.
    1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 10: 42 New
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      And under socialism there was no struggle to increase labor productivity? That is, for this very maximization of profit and minimization of costs?
      1. Campanella 8 October 2019 14: 11 New
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        You are sorry, but under socialism it all worked for all people, not a bunch of the most unprincipled villains.
        1. Saul_Rhen 8 October 2019 20: 43 New
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          Minus. Mantras about "at all" become delusional day by day. Financial flows were and are in the hands of specific people.
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            For those who did not live at that time, yes. Propaganda simply destroys critical thinking and the ability to analyze.
            1. Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 00: 35 New
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              Again. What worked for you personally in the USSR? What did you have?
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                I had a good job, decent pay, free housing, medicine, discount vouchers, confidence in the future, respectful attitude of leaders, support of various organizations (trade unions, Komsomol, party) and people in difficult periods of life. Few? And most importantly, I felt like a man, not someone’s picking my teeth.
                1. Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 14: 49 New
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                  Now no one has a good job? Is there no medicine?
                  Everything else is religious nonsense, if you were not only a throaty activist.
                  Leaders have always been different. If a person is shit, then he is shit under both communism and capitalism.
                  Trade unions are an interest circle for an asset, completely manual and rejoicing in everything that the party will say. What is now with the Union. In the same Europe, trade unions are much toothier and more useful for workers.
                  "confidence in the future" is a masterpiece in general, rush in droves with this copy-paste, but tell me, sure, where is the USSR? After all, there was confidence)
                  Discount vouchers can still be found today, and holidays are available not only in Russia.
                  From the last line - neighing for about 5 minutes. Pickers in their teeth teach people how to live.
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                    To begin with, there are simply no unions now. Rather, they are, but in government agencies.
                    Medicine is bad, paid and inaccessible. Everything is also “good” with work, managers, security guards and sellers, lawyers and lawyers, and now self-employed.
                    As for the discount vouchers from you, the first to hear that they are.
                    I know only for pence and socially unprotected, something happens.
                    In general, I see you judge by the era without knowing it. According to the stories of Chubais, Gaidar, Svanidze and others, this is exactly what our past looks like.
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                      He saw the final agony of the wise leadership of the party. The stories of relatives and the study of history are enough for me to evaluate the rest of the years. Vacations can be found if you look, and not wait for freebies. I wholeheartedly for the USSR, but without ideology, communists and other garbage.
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                        Alas, nothing happens without an idea.
                        Those. chaos is, as it were, unseemly, but in fact, many actions are guided by a certain kind of mechanisms subordinate to a certain logic.
                        So if not socialism, then something else, capitalism, anarchy ...
  • Herman 4223 8 October 2019 10: 09 New
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    “It is no secret that today Russia lives in a crisis. Sometimes it seems that the crisis is a natural state when it has no end and edge. But, actually, why? Why are we so dutifully used to it that we don’t even try to dream of the best? We’re not trying to set ourselves goals that could really be realized. "
    We do not set ourselves the task because it is prohibited by law. In a constitution written by USAID, ideology is prohibited to the state. And consequently, development goals, because goals come from a certain idea. In addition, the central bank is prohibited from lending to the government of the Russian Federation.
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      Yes. Right To start again a useless caste of ideologists and their guardians who do nothing and how we will live.
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        They always have ideologues (officials), the question is that your state should have an ideology, and not a scattered one that each official has his own. Indeed, when a state is banned, someone else’s is not prohibited. The ideology is necessary so that there is a development goal. Otherwise, reactive thinking is obtained. Without an idea, you live one day.
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          This is a true religious fanatic. And how normal countries live without ideologists. What a fright the official, i.e. a person performing administrative functions should be the bearer of some kind of ideology? He must perform his duties well, that's all.
          1. Herman 4223 10 October 2019 07: 18 New
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            By ideology you mean some sort of communism or fascism, and this is a much broader concept. If you are thinking about your future, how to live beyond what goals you need to achieve, then this is an ideology (your personal one), this is your idea on the topic of how you imagine your life in the future. For example, you have an idea to make repairs, under this idea you set the task of how to implement it. If there is no idea, then you just drink beer in front of the TV, the wallpaper from the wall falls off, and you don’t notice it. Other countries have an ideology too, if they are not someone’s vassal of course. In the USA, the ideology of an exceptional great nation, world hegemon. In the British Empire was the ideology of the greatest maritime power.
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              If this is what you had in mind, then +. Although your definition is rather controversial. I was pissed off yesterday by local galloping communists with their own religion and the desire to impose it on everyone again, so it was pretty harsh
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                Maybe I didn’t give you the correct example, “I want to live well” is an ideology, and the state is forbidden to think about it by law. Galloping communists are probably still a sight to see.
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                  In my understanding, this is the goal. Ideology is, to a greater extent, a regulator of relations in society and mass consciousness.
                  I am because of this sight and registered. All sorts of bruises, mordvins and others here defecate under each article. Sharikovs of our time.
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        Does the caste of ideologists bother you? But the caste of oligarchs, who are also useless, but trample their ideology with blood, does not bother you?
        Is everything all right with your head?
        1. Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 14: 34 New
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          The oligarchs bring much more benefit to the country in the form of taxes and jobs than the whole bunch of ball-aching in the comments with one thought for everyone - “take and share”
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            The oligarchs bring much more value to the country in the form of taxes and jobs,

            Blessed! And what would the USSR do without them, providing everyone with jobs?
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              And what did all countries without communists do, providing everyone with jobs? I also know how to play this game. Opportunities to earn more now.
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                And what did all countries without communists do, providing everyone with jobs?

                All? Yes, figs to you.
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                Opportunities to earn more now.

                Where is it? I mean it is to earn, and not buy-sell.
                1. Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 15: 20 New
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                  If the specialist is good, then anywhere.
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                    Quote: Saul_Rhen
                    If the specialist is good, then anywhere.

                    Complete nonsense. Why do I have a sister - a nurse receives four times less than my aunt, who works in Moscow exactly the same nurse?
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                    wherever.

                    I want it to be near the house, because I am caring for a disabled person, but there’s a disaster, all the enterprises in the district are destroyed. And it was - 4. Reinforced concrete plant, ARZ, UPP VOS, RSU. They made a brewery (there are five people there, the concentrate is diluted), and a funeral home. All. Oh, and also a car service, the size of a couple of garages.
                    1. Saul_Rhen 10 October 2019 16: 26 New
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                      1. You still don’t understand whether you want everyone to get as an aunt, or as a sister, but the fact remains that you can earn more or less even on one specialty.
                      2. It seems to me that the main problem here is your Wishlist and selective vision.
                      1. Mordvin 3 10 October 2019 16: 40 New
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                        I still don’t understand whether you want everyone to get as an aunt, or as a sister,

                        Personally, I want everyone to receive according to the tariff scale.
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                        It seems to me that the main problem here is your Wishlist and selective vision.

                        I don’t understand, open your vision.
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                        1. Even those who saw her in a coffin? Everyone loves to talk about low salaries of state employees (I worked, I know), but you want everyone to become state employees.
                        2. There is a category of people who are always small and bad. Do you know about flies and bees? That's it.
  • Shuttle 8 October 2019 10: 25 New
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    That fierce aspic, to which the author involuntarily or voluntarily inclines, has long had a name: solidarism. The thing itself is utopian, although possible at some historical stage. And the root of this same solidarism, both now and then, when it really flourished in the western part of Europe lies in ... lies in ... But what really is there ?! I must say bluntly - in the reaction of capitalism to the achievements of the world's first state of workers and peasants. Just like that, a certain grimace of capitalism called upon to deceive its own proletariat with the sweet promises of fraternal love between the working people and the owners of the means of production. Solidarism in general, and as one of its manifestations of Fordism, has been studied and taken its rightful place in science.
    So why does the author not directly call his maxims so? But because he does not understand that he makes mistakes at the very beginning of his reasoning.
    So, let's get started.

    “Capitalism”, “socialism”, “democracy”, “dictatorship” - all these concepts are rather conditional. In its pure form, you can hardly find them. Life (and economics in particular) is still multifaceted. It goes beyond clear definitions.

    These concepts are very, very specific. I will list them in the language of Carlson, i.e. simple:
    Dictatorship - This is unlimited power. Someone may say that power is always limited by the laws of the state. There is one very simple objection to this that those in power are writing these very laws. Those. whose laws are respected in the country, that and the power. If the proletariat writes laws in a state, if laws protect first of all its interests, if these laws are strictly observed and above all others, then this is the dictatorship of the proletariat. If, first of all, the state protects the interests of large financiers and industrialists, for example, it enacts laws protecting primarily their capital, then this is the dictatorship of large financiers and industrialists, i.e. dictatorship of capital, and large financial and industrial. If the state first of all defended the interests of the Brahmins, then there would be a dictatorship of the Brahmins. And if, before all interests, the interests of the feudal lords were defended, then it would be feudalism, the dictatorship of the feudal lords.
    Democracy - This is, oddly enough, a very simple term. The power of the demos. Those. dictatorship, unlimited power of free citizens with civil rights, in contrast to slaves and other categories of incompetent people. Everything else is just cosplay of one degree or another.
    Socialism - The first phase of communism, when monetary in form, but essentially communist relations in production and distribution of labor products, are still preserved. The only class that is ready by nature to establish this kind of relationship is the proletariat, i.e. urban factory and factory workers. Those. dictatorship of the proletariat.
    Capitalism - the dictatorship of capital.
    Everything is very, very specific.

    The choice of the socio-economic system is not throwing at dusk from Scylla to Charybdis, but the ability to see the golden ratio and the talent to combine the seemingly impossible.

    This is generally beyond reason. In reality, there is no choice whatsoever for individual individuals observing the state development process from the side or participating in any roles from within. Productive forces have developed to settled farming - welcome to feudalism. Grown to the free sale of their own labor by proletos - hello capitalism. Industrial relations are more and more social - hello the ghost of communism. And no mythical scylls and charybds.
    1. Essex62 8 October 2019 11: 53 New
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      Bravo Dmitry!
  • Old Orc 8 October 2019 10: 44 New
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    Your question is easy to answer. What is the essence of capitalism - the accumulation of the maximum amount of money by the owner of the means of production (exaggerated). What is the essence of socialism - the distribution of money in accordance with social needs among all citizens (exaggerated). socialist distribution is contrary to capitalist accumulation. The conclusion in its pure form of capitalism with a social face is impossible. The question "there really is" can be answered simply. There is a separate non-distributable gesheft for the capitalist, external recharge. Conclusion as long as there is external fueling there is social capitalism; therefore, there is no capitalism with a social face. The question is where can Russia get external recharge when all the others are replenished from it?
  • Mustached Kok 8 October 2019 10: 48 New
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    Rave! Capitalism and socialism cannot coexist. For their foundations are opposite to each other. The first is based on the desire for personal enrichment through the operation of equipment and an employee. The second is based on public association with a common contribution to the work without the opportunity to get more than the rest.
    So any forms of "reconciliation" of these systems - we are struck by the failure already comparing one root of the problems. Moreover, the very emergence of this idea is an indicator of the author’s incompetence in understanding the work of these two systems.
    In the world, either capitalists or socialists. There are still monarchists, but that is already closer to the capitalists.
    1. Campanella 8 October 2019 11: 19 New
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      Not quite right. There is a destructive atom, but there is one put at the service of man and bringing good.
      Market mechanisms built into the system of socialism may well work for the benefit of all.
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        But there is no such thing anywhere.
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          But don’t! We need our government to be able to make people decent salaries! (you don’t just have to say that this is not a matter of power) as in Europe and other developed countries of the world And only after that (decent salaries) do we need Syria, Crimea, Ryme and Vanguards, Olympiads, etc. Please bring this popular opinion to your employers Personally, I against revolutions and unrest, as history proves that after them it will only get worse, but in the next election I will vote against Putin and others and I do not care for anyone, even for bulk Khodorkovsky or a moron. fell 14 times, and d four in all, from this I concluded that our government is working poorly and I do not need any television successes WITHOUT normal salaries
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      Rave! Capitalism and socialism cannot coexist ...

      Well, I wouldn’t express myself that much. They can. They cannot coexist perfectly peacefully - yes. And they can coexist. At least simply because the second of the first follows. Because the second, being the first stage of communism, is born in the first. Capitalism is preparing within itself its own grave digger, a class that freely sells its only wealth, its ability to work for urban and factory workers. No other economic system gave birth to them, did not produce and did not prepare them with such speed and power as capitalism. The proletariat is the product of capitalism, and it is the beginning of the end of capitalism. It is only a matter of time. One way or another, but the development of production forces as a global planetary phenomenon leads to the planetary abolition of capitalism through the planetary advent of communism. Not the fact that it will end before our eyes, but before our eyes it already works. Yes, the two hundred millionth USSR is no longer there, but as a result of its appearance, life, struggle, and the death of more than 1,5 billion living people, they are no longer working for the capitalist’s uncle, but as full members of society participating on an equal footing with the others in the division of the social product they produced. Isn't that a victory? Even some!
      By the way, and within the same country there may be different ways. This is called a transition period.
  • Campanella 8 October 2019 10: 58 New
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    The question is difficult and fundamental.
    We can say that capitalism and socialism are empty formulations, but they are important for designating an object, and objects are different. And what is especially important, it is they who determine the rules of the game and in the name of what this game is being conducted.
    So, unambiguously, the choice should be made in favor of socialism, as a more promising and progressive system, and the tools can be partially capitalist within the system.
    The bet on the constant growth of material security is stupidity and the end of life on earth.
    Living conditions must be optimal for life itself, what capitalism does is kill the life of man and the planet.
    Development should go towards cognition, not consumption.
    And so already business has ossified a man to the limit of making man himself only his ancestor.
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    In order to develop its production, there is not enough money among the population. "Target money" is needed, for example, soft (or interest-free) loans for Russian-made products.
    And that would not re-stick labels on Chinese goods, passing them off as Russian, create a list of "white and fluffy" manufacturers.
  • g1washntwn 8 October 2019 11: 43 New
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    To move a cart in Russia, you need only three (!) Things:

    The government is dreaming of a jerk into the new technological order and the digital economy, where this cart of the time of the king of peas, as well as excess human resources are absolutely unnecessary. What are you speaking about? A worker with a peasant on this cart does not fit into the speculative model, which is the global trend, because before and now there is an active redistribution of spheres of influence (read - resources) and Russian interested parties are actively participating in this fight for these resource flows. Moreover, commodity and raw material flows are of little interest, since managing them is too difficult for the level of their education, financial flow and other product virtualization are more convenient for speculation. It is clear that the workers / peasants are not allowed to these mechanisms and the state resource will continue to do everything in every possible way to portray social justice. Therefore, my IMHO - capitalism with a human face - an oxymoron, a wolf in sheep's clothing. It’s just time for us to discard this mess ourselves and understand that social in what is happening now is not for nothing, ahead of terry capitalism as it is according to Carlo-Marx and globalist horror stories about the golden billion, etc.
    1. Campanella 8 October 2019 14: 06 New
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      Here is the tip of their indexed salaries by 4.6%. And they themselves say we do not have inflation, it is minimal ... Well, they would live like everyone else))) However, our government officials have their own shirt closer to their bodies, although we must admit that they also have salaries so not small plus big, huge privileges.
  • Vadim237 8 October 2019 12: 33 New
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    "All businesses are on credit, all consumers are groaning in debt." No need to lie, far from all are loaned and stunned.
    1. Campanella 8 October 2019 14: 01 New
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      And we know these people by name.
      When everyone falls, their incomes are steadily increasing.
      Money makes even more money. A very insidious equivalent of labor, especially in the hands of crooks.
      1. Vadim237 8 October 2019 16: 35 New
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        Yes, you have all the crooks - who lives better than you. “When everyone’s level falls” - You don’t need to speak for everyone, you don’t know what everyone has there, speak for yourself what’s falling for you.
        1. Campanella 8 October 2019 23: 13 New
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          And you just close your eyes to everything, it’s more convenient for you to live.
          Even Chubais himself did not deny that he gave the property of Russia to the hands of crooks, just to destroy the Soviet system.
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            I can’t close my eyes to everything - because I have to deal with everything all the time - more than 700 people depend on me, and another 29 factories, in which my enterprises are allied.
            1. Campanella 9 October 2019 22: 31 New
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              Well, I'm sorry. But everyone carries the burden that he can bear and usually people like the process ...
              As for the hatred of the rich as such, I do not have it. I know many who made themselves, but this is not a big business for sure. Krupnyak is a crime and people close to the powerful, siloviki. It’s hard to call their wealth righteous, I don’t like such, but I understand that it’s sometimes a forced choice, because the government has decided so. Therefore, I have most of my complaints about power. I have lived most of my life under the Soviet regime, I can say with confidence for all The system had enormous potential negative aspects, but unfortunately the Politburo made many mistakes, both theoretical and practical, for which they paid for the loss of order.
              Now, unsuccessfully stomping in the swamps groping firmament.
              Putin today advised young governors, instructed them to listen to the people, and they cheerfully reported about housing and roads, about communal problems .... and no one stuttered about jobs and decent wages for people. It is sad to see how the government is stupidly building infrastructure without thinking about how it will use it.
  • Mikhail3 8 October 2019 12: 41 New
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    It is pleasant to read a person who has not studied at school the topic "the predatory nature of capitalism." Such a clear stream of consciousness ...
    Alas, dear author, in this historical configuration your ideas are impossible and, unfortunately, even ridiculous. Capitalism is a system of bipedal predators. Predators. Extremely accurate word. The fact is that a human predator is primarily one who eats its own kindred. Like a rat-eater. And it would seem - why would he not restrain his appetite? Hehe ...
    He can not. When people who understand in the real economy (and not in that crazy world of absurdity in which our government lives, the zombie of the HSE) talk about money, they primarily use the term "financial flows"). Because static money is impossible. These are always flows that you can never own. You just lower your hand into such flows and you can use a few drops that fall on your hand. Well, there you can buy a yacht, a palace or winter tires, depending on the size of your flows.
    But you must skip the rest of the money through yourself! If you take at least a little more from the flow than relatively modest fractions of a percent, the flow instantly begins to dry out. Twice took - go broke. Money earned must be spent on the flow itself. There is no place for charity in this stupid game, that is, money spent without profit. To give money to the "population", they must first be taken from somewhere.
    Where from? A high standard of living, which for some time was maintained in the West, was provided by the robbery of colonies and neocolonies. Tales about a certain highest labor productivity of a fairy tale exist, funds were taken from those who swell from this hunger. And then the tales of the “end of history” turned out to be a bluff, as soon as the process of robbery was complicated, the folding of the sweet life of the “middle class” began immediately. There is nothing to feed them!
    Yes, the capitalists own a considerable bag of unproductive capital, deceased in the accounts, in the form of real estate and other assets for which loans are taken. It seems to be ... no, it is impossible. These mountains of money are for a constant, continuous, unrestrained fight with each other. A little financial pillow made a noise, and you were devoured.
    Everything described in the article is beautiful. But impossible.
  • Vadim237 8 October 2019 12: 43 New
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    "But money will appear in Russia." Where do they come from? Samarisiruyut? “They are” - Who has them to the extent that they are needed at least for the repair and replacement of all Russian communications - at least in the housing and communal services? Here, tens of trillions of rubles are needed.
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    Tired of empty. I doubt that the author did any real work, even as an ordinary employee.
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    Uncle, but tell me, please, why is tinsel so immediately?
    “But for the Olympics, fiestas and other tinsel, not so cheap, where did the money come from? Did it really fall from the sky?”
    Uncle, do you know the principles of cash flows?
    And the principles of budgeting and money supply?
    Again, Uncle, do you know the principle (quite mathematical) of investing, including in infrastructure (for example, roads, sewers, hotels, etc., in preparation for and after the Olympics)?
    Uncle, what do you think is "not so cheap"? How much is this?
    And how much will be "cheap"?
    In numbers, pzhlst ... In grams, too, you can ....
    But for the inclusion of a cannon with clever words - ZACHOOOOOOOOOT !!!!!!
  • yehat 8 October 2019 14: 26 New
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    the author writes
    how to raise supply or production, including in the countryside? Fiscal benefits alone cannot be dispensed with, although one must start from there. It's time to stop strangling taxes already

    Unfortunately, the problem is not limited to high taxes.
    so suppose you need to create a restaurant company, but I will describe another airline that I’m thinking about now - an airline.
    And what's ahead? A huge number of requirements (and this is all costs), several licenses for activities, insurance (which is also expensive). At the same time, no one guarantees that you will be allowed at least 1 flight or the license will not be revoked. Starting investments, even for small aircraft at the initial step, amount to several million and ... do not guarantee that you are even allowed to start at all. At the same time, there is a threat of fines. At the same time, it turns out that buying a plane is not the most expensive part.
    That’s the problem - even if you ignore the terrible economic environment and predatory taxes.
    By the way, about taxes. Potapenko recently calculated live - to be honest, to pay all taxes and due MANDATORY fees, from 93 to 115 percent of profit comes out for different conditions.
    115% !!!
    Here's how to conduct your business in such conditions?
    But the tax report on a significant increase in fees from a falling economy for many years.
    handsome men ...
    And finally, add a cherry on the cake - predatory interest on loans.

    Maybe someone will correct me, but in my opinion, the resource elite completely destroys the economic base for all alternative forces through lobbying for laws and thereby monopolizes the government. This is a complete impoverishment of ordinary citizens, and the most difficult conditions for small businesses, and even the middle one is already bending.
    Well, the last. The Bank has the right to freeze any account on suspicion of financing terrorism without any justification. If you have been building your business for 20 years, 1 official or specialist can destroy everything in a couple of seconds without even explaining anything.
    Do we have private property or not ???
    Or do we have the right to property only among the strongest?
    A separate issue is the courts. Finding justice there is a very naive intention.
    1. AU Ivanov. 8 October 2019 15: 26 New
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      We have state capitalism. The worst of the hypostases of capitalism. With complete neglect of private property. Even krupnyak walks under the ax, what can I say about the small fry.
      1. yehat 8 October 2019 15: 56 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        We have state capitalism. The worst of the hypostases of capitalism.

        100 years ago, state capitalism did not prevent Tirpitz from creating and supporting dozens of new small enterprises in the maritime industry. Moreover, the state allocated FREE subsidies for the modernization and maintenance of excess capacity, gave clear 3-year production plans, kept a stable currency, which simplified work and did not stifle taxes.
        are you sure that we have state capitalism ???
        In my opinion, we have a state. oligarchism.
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          If we cite the Germans as an example, then not Tirpitz - but Yalmar Schacht, this is really the creator of the German economic miracle.
          What about us? We have wild capitalism, which developed countries went about 80 years ago.
  • Campanella 8 October 2019 16: 23 New
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    Make capitalism be a vegetarian. And the Russian elite does not love themselves, but the people.)))
    This is not science fiction.
  • A.TOR 8 October 2019 16: 57 New
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    In Russia, a market economy ... From the outside, it looks, I will say this, somewhat more exotic, but ... we will call it that.
    Without the state, there will be neither market forces, nor the market itself, here the “statesmen” are right at 100%. But we must understand that the state intervenes in the production process in order (and only for that!) To bring it to a normal, one might say, standard state.
    And then leave.
    Then the market itself determines the winners and losers in this competition. Because the state cannot allow (does not have the right, opportunity) to become the source of all expenditures to the budget in order to maintain efficient production.
    In Russia, binoculars (marine, 20x, good, new) do not see leaders who understand this and are able to organize life in such a way as to make the “productive life” in Russia attractive to, first of all, young people. First of all, the market is designed to make people prosperous, prosperous. Any ideological chatter "about the good of the Fatherland" will remain on the pages of the respective sites - those who can and want to do are not foolish.
    The problem, if I sow the peculiarity of the present moment of history in Russia, can be called that, is that if people are really given the opportunity to work normally, they will start to accumulate some money. And it will not be the thieving oligarchs who received their billions precisely thanks to the “state”, but people who made themselves. And they will be supported by their “hard-earned" very, very different political forces.
    Therefore, "deterrence of market forces is systemic, principled, meaningful and intentional."
    But the strength of the market is such that someone will start to accumulate money. As soon as money begins to accumulate, they will begin to support other political forces. And so the containment of market forces is systemic, principled, meaningful and intentional. Because the authorities cannot allow the accumulation of funds that can go to finance the "opposition" (in fact, just those political groups that defend the interests of a real productive business).
    In practice, this will lead - sooner or later - to the fact that the current "masters of life" will somehow be taken away from oil and gas and other raw materials, thanks to which they live so well.
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    What about us? We have wild capitalism, which developed countries have gone through for about 80 years

    we have no capitalism — not even wild capitalism, because property rights are not protected by the state.
    it’s enough to see how foreign property is being squeezed out in Sochi now.
    We have a feudal estate society. With what I congratulate.
    We are now approximately at the level of the beginning of the reign of Catherine 1, 1762, with which I congratulate you.
    Burning the history of a huge country from 1762 to 1991 (230 years) is simply mastery.
    1. Vadim237 8 October 2019 20: 54 New
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      And you privatize your property, no one will take it from you just like that.
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        already selected, so in vain you say that.
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          What was privatized from you?
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            What was privatized from you?

            An apartment was taken from one of my former neighbors. Cops. On a tip from my other neighbor, the cop. They just came, um ... they rounded it up, and they made us sign the documents.
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              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Vadim237
              What was privatized from you?

              An apartment was taken from one of my former neighbors. Cops. On a tip from my other neighbor, the cop. They just came, um ... they rounded it up, and they made us sign the documents.

              What is the guarantee that you will not become the next? That there is no chance to look for the truth, there is the prosecutor’s office, etc. .... Yes, at least a cry in social networks for help.
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        Do not make me laugh! 1001 how to legally deprive you of property if you are of interest to anyone serious.
        And the easiest way for debts. You say do not fit, but simply if you do not have the means to pay for housing, then most certainly you will lose it.
  • nikvic46 9 October 2019 08: 17 New
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    “Demand creates supply.” Demand for housing is growing every year. And the proposal is only in prices. And it is possible that this is all done by a group of people. There must enter into law on the collusion of persons in trade and services.
    1. Campanella 9 October 2019 22: 46 New
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      It will not help, because the state machine serves the interests of big capital. You listen to Putin, he is the main investor, and he is trying for him. Preferences, tax deductions, low taxes ... so I would take care of the people. But do not wait, the retinue makes the king. And the people hawl all this.
  • Andrey VOV 9 October 2019 12: 52 New
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    And the author himself works with whom and what produces and why he is so smart, and not on the Forbes list for example))) there are right moments, but nobody has spoken about them and common truths and the author has not revealed anything new to us
  • iury.vorgul 10 October 2019 07: 20 New
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    In Soviet times, a joke was popular: "They pretend that they pay; we pretend that we work." In principle, it reflected reality, but partially. If you wanted to be paid, you had to WORK! Well, if he "pretended", then he received accordingly. However, this was enough for a normal life. For example, in the early 80s I worked as a loader of the confectionery expedition of the city trust of canteens and received 120-130 rubles a month. Mom worked as a shift foreman at a chemical plant - 155 rubles, my grandmother received 45 rubles of pension, that is, only 330 rubles. So we had no place to put money, every month I spent 40-50 rubles on stamps, put it off for a book, went south. Whether it’s the matter now - you pretend that you are working - they pretend that you are paid, you work - they pretend anyway. Yes, and work must be found.
  • yehat 10 October 2019 12: 56 New
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    Quote: nikvic46
    "Demand creates supply"

    "Demand creates supply"
    you cannot copy theoretical dogmas into reality and say that it works 100%.
    we have a huge private housing construction market in our country, but more than 90% of houses sold have serious problems, although the demand is only normal. And demand has not yet given birth to anything, it only provides conditions for supply growth, but there is no growth. As it is not in a large number of other niches.
    We have a demand for aircraft engines, but they are not manufactured or sold.
  • Al_lexx 10 October 2019 23: 52 New
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    There are only three ways to influence the economy.
    1. To give money to banks, they will buy currency and arrange inflation.
    2. To distribute money to the people, he will buy goods and arrange inflation.
    3. Invest in industrialization and agriculture and thereby create jobs.

    The third method has always deduced (any) country from the ass, but for this you need to work, and not hipster freelancer and do not manage imported goods in the office. Alas, the younger generation, for the most part, has forgotten how to work. But I learned to hype about and without in the squares (I mean the inhabitants of cities with millionaires).

    Factories need to be built, restored first of all, machine tool construction, which we now have almost no left. The working profession is practically abolished. And those factories that are building now, all on imported robotic machines, where one person works instead of ten. Both the Americans and the Japanese have already grabbed their heads (what have we done !?) and began to restore the national industry again, instead of outsourcing.

    Farmers and larger peasant farms throughout the developed world receive support from the state in the form of favorable loans and subsidized purchase prices. Let there be cheap food from large agricultural industrialists, but let there be normal farm shops and markets, without Azerbaijani intermediaries. Even if there will be higher prices than in chain stores with their shelves full of GMO products, there will be a bunch of people who will buy normal food.

    But you need to start with a radical change in the constitution, the return of the old principle of education and the quality of free medicine. Problems with housing and communal services can be left for later. In addition, even if the cost of social programs is high, then if guest workers are not attracted and the local population is hired (by the way, there are fewer Asian janitors in Moscow, which cannot be said about construction projects), people will still have money to pay for it. The very money that is now flowing into the pockets of employers of migrant workers and outside of Russia into the pockets of family members of these same migrant workers. Otherwise, after 15-20 years, we will remain with the same murdered economy, among the aggressively minded Asian peasants. And those who are now digging loot like not everyone else, will simply dump to where their loot is stored. And of course, the justice system should work, which is impossible in a situation where the state, in fact, is the main organized crime group in the country.
    But just no revolution! Enough to wash your face with blood, to the delight of our enemies. What will be the system, socialism, capitalism or some other “ism” - the name does not matter. In the same China, socialism and the frantic pace of development, in Israel capitalism and an almost USSR social system, if not better, so what?
    With normal control over the extraction and sale of the natural resources of our country, all this can be solved in just five, at most ten years. But first you need to change the constitution, which is impossible while the heirs of the gang of ebeldos from the roaring 90's are sitting at the helm.
    I think so...
    1. fif21 14 October 2019 10: 36 New
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      Quote: Al_lexx
      Factories must be built, rebuilt primarily machine tool

      Who will build? What money and for what?
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      But you need to start with a radical change in the constitution, the return of the old principle of education and the quality of free medicine.

      Now no one will do this!
      Quote: Al_lexx
      With normal control over the extraction and sale of the natural resources of our country, all this can be solved in just five, at most ten years.

      Who do you want to take away from the “trough”?
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      I think so...

      Go down to the earth and see what country we live in. hi
  • Stalnov I.P. 11 October 2019 12: 55 New
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    In order to push the engine, first of all, it is necessary to remove the mediocre “machinists”, and deliver smart, professional, honest, responsible, disciplined people who respect the RUSSIAN PEOPLE. Then the locomotive will move. And with these "drivers" we already know where the hell we drove. The state of domestic politics, in particular the economy, personnel, ideology, and the social sphere only confirms this.
  • KJIETyc 11 October 2019 18: 47 New
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    Quote: Lannan Shi
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    And to plow ... and so we plow like hell. So what?

    A working cattle and must plow. For hay and stall. New Russian morality. Judging by the number of posts, the office hamster does not even imitate work - an avatar of God. If not God himself. And those without whom he will die of hunger are the scum of society.
    The moral of the current elite. And without changing this very elite, nothing will change.

    So you have already changed "ilita", first in 988, then in 1917 and 91. Is it wrong to change something? It is surely a matter of fact in the head nevertheless, and not in the elite, in the deadly elite every 5 years, the elite get into, and it gets worse and worse. And in the USA, how often did the "elite" change? never in 200 years (the change of talking heads every 5-10 years does not count)? therefore, they live the beam of us with you, because they do not have stagnation, but a really stable improvement in the economy and standard of living for 200 years. And you, smart, just to revolution for the sake of revolution, instead of gradual progress and development.
  • grumbler 12 October 2019 19: 40 New
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    Congratulations, you invented a social market economy :)
    См. http://www.ng.ru/world/2019-08-27/8_7660_germany.html
    It is a social market economy. As you know, this is an economic system organized on the basis of market self-regulation, in which coordination of actions is carried out on the basis of interaction in the markets of free private producers and free individual consumers. The model of a social market economy proceeds from the requirement that neither the state nor private business have the right to have full control over the economy, but should serve people. Its inventor was Ludwig Erhard, Minister of Economics, and later Federal Chancellor of Germany. The name of the system of social market economy was given in 1946 by economist Alfred Muller-Armak. It was understood as an alternative to both the capitalist and socialist management systems.

    For more details, see Odintsov A. V. “Ludwig Erhard and the“ German miracle ”: the path to“ prosperity for all. ”The reason for Germany’s success and Russia's failure” (http://rusrand.ru/analytics/lyudvig-erhard-i-nemeckoe -chudo-put-k-blagosostoyaniyu-dlya-vseh-prichina-uspeha-germanii-i-neuspeha-rossii)
  • Sapsan136 13 October 2019 00: 39 New
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    There are incomes and taxes are not paid, and therefore taxes must be introduced on luxury goods, such as RollsRoys, for example, standing in the garage of the owner of an allegedly unprofitable plant ... In addition, you must be punished for untimely fulfillment of your duties, such as not paying salaries on time , up to criminal liability ... Penalize in favor of consumers and the state companies responsible for transporting passengers, providing heat, electricity, gas, providing communications, repairing roads in the event of a supply interruption and dishonest fulfillment of their duties ... The management companies will be fined for negligent performance of their duties and not for 5000 rubles, but for 5000000 rubles, then the ice will break in the direction necessary for the people and the country will get an impetus for development ... It is time to get rid of temporary workers for whom Russia it’s only a cash cow, for exporting money to foreign banks ... It is time to punish officials for bad sidewalks and roads, for poor control of private companies, for starters by the deprivation of bonuses ... but they will not come to their senses, and dismissal with a strict personal record reprimand ... chi ovnikam and traders to give high salaries, this is a carrot, and now need a whip ...
    1. Avalex 13 October 2019 21: 35 New
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      You are right, all this is necessary. But all this is and can be applied, and even applied. But, unfortunately, there is no system that supports this at the proper level, it all depends on the personality of the leader. And if he is tired, say after 4-5 years, or changed to another, not enough initiative, everything starts to get worse ...
      1. Sapsan136 14 October 2019 07: 29 New
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        There are no taxes on luxury in the Russian Federation and Putin is running away from the proposal to introduce them like the plague, and this is the only way to tax those who hide their income and evade taxes
  • Avalex 13 October 2019 21: 30 New
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    Stupidly! Based on the name, I thought about the goals, the development strategy of the conversation. And here it is empty ... without analysis, without figures and facts, verbiage!
    One thing is indisputable, it is necessary to work, but QUALIFIED workers, there are not enough hands!
    1. Sapsan136 14 October 2019 07: 28 New
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      And where do they come from with such salaries at the factory ?! Young people are fleeing from factories as if from a plague, and not because they don’t want to work, but because the salaries offered there are not only worthy, but it’s not possible to live in general. A fitter-toolmaker of the 5th category, the department of USP, VASO is invited to work for 11350 rubles a month ... They themselves tried to live with that kind of money ?!
  • fif21 14 October 2019 10: 27 New
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    The contradictions between wage workers and owners are escalating. Ahead, unfortunately, Russia is waiting for strikes, riots, rallies, a social explosion. Little will seem to anyone. Who will lead the protest movement? And the calls to "plow" as the Chinese will remain calls. Not hard work, but thoughts of thought - determine your income. lol hi
  • Samum 14 October 2019 19: 57 New
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    Well, like the nobles later lamented “we were good”, without bloodshed no one will make life easier or better for anyone.