Long sober life. Russians are fine

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Project "ZZ". Those days when the image of a Russian in the West was associated with a forty-degree bottle were gone into the past. Now everything is different: Russians drink much less and live longer. This is not interpreted by Russian officials, but by specialists from the World Health Organization. It’s good inside the country, and outside it is even better! The foreign press tells how Putin defended the climate and became the leader of the Middle East.





How the “vodka nation” surprised the World Health Organization


Some Western countries should learn Russian sobriety! For example, in Germany they could adopt the experience of Russia and drink less.

Ulf Mauder talks about this in a major German newspaper. «Die Welt». In the section "Health", by the way. And with reference to data from the World Health Organization, by the way.

For decades, Russia remained a country where "the biggest problem of alcoholism and the extremely high death rate from drunkenness" was recorded. However, a new study by the World Health Organization (WHO) confirmed that the "vodka nation" (in the original "Wodka-Nation") has now achieved truly "tremendous success" in the fight against alcoholism.

According to WHO, from 2003 to 2016. alcohol consumption in Russia decreased by 43 percent! At the same time, life expectancy has risen sharply: from 57 years for men in 1994 years to 68 years (for women - up to 78 years).

WHO expert Carina Ferreira-Borges stated that stereotypical perceptions of Russia are erasing right now.

In 2016, Russians drank just 11,7 liters of pure alcohol per capita. For comparison: in Germany, according to the same WHO, 13,4 liters of pure alcohol were drunk per year.

Pure alcohol? Half a liter of beer contains only about 20 grams of such alcohol. Russians, by the way, traditionally prefer to drink stronger drinks - like vodka.

For many years, the author of the article recalls, Russian politicians have been talking about success in the fight against alcoholism. The fight was on all fronts: a minimum price was set for alcohol, excise taxes were raised, a ban was placed on the sale of alcohol at night, and strict requirements were set for advertising alcohol. In addition, since 2013, beer has also been classified as alcohol.

The WHO study was the first independent confirmation that what other critics of Russia doubted (successes in the fight against alcoholism) became obvious.

Karina Ferreira-Borges, co-author of the study, has collected and compared a huge amount of data - for 28 years. “It all fits together,” she concluded. And Russia can now serve other countries as a role model!

Even Russian experts, who are skeptical of official statistics, sometimes admit that the situation in the “vodka empire” is probably getting a little better.

Not only Russian President Vladimir Putin, but his officials are preaching a healthy lifestyle, the journalist continues. “The athlete Putin, a judoka and a hockey player, in this respect is the exact opposite of his predecessor, Boris Yeltsin, who often stupefied himself with alcohol,” recalls Ulf Mauder.

Putin is worried about the high mortality rates in Russia.

Hundreds of thousands of Russians died due to drunkenness, especially in the chaotic 90 years, marked by hunger and poverty, the author writes further. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, consumption of pure alcohol in men increased to 34 liters per year, which is equivalent to approximately 340 half a liter of vodka (340 Halbliterflaschen Wodka), the author of the article estimates. It's almost a bottle every day!

The obvious demographic problem then provoked the resistance of politicians. Authorities had to overcome the “resistance of a powerful alcoholic lobby,” the journalist points out. However, unlike in the past, the government no longer relied "on brute force methods." We must not forget about the lessons of the anti-alcohol campaign, which was conducted in the USSR under the leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev in the 80's.

Today in Russia there is a "silent campaign", and now it, perhaps, has become the most successful in Russia stories. Today in Russia it is forbidden to drink alcohol in parks and in public places. In Russian supermarkets (“to the delight of WHO”), each bottle is now separately tracked through an electronic system.

The successes achieved in Russia can become an incentive for other countries. Ferreira-Borges explains the Russian achievements with simple words: "The more politicians control alcohol, the more sharply the mortality curve goes down."

WHO experts hope that the authorities in Russia will take further steps. For example, it will raise the age minimum for acquiring alcohol until the 21 year. First of all, this should reduce the mortality rate among young drinkers, scientists say.



The site Fox News, where material on the same topic was published, data are given for other drinking countries.

According to a WHO report, adult Russians consume 11,7 liters of pure alcohol per capita. For comparison: the Germans consume 13,4 liters, the French consume 12,6 liters, the inhabitants of the United Kingdom consume 11,4 liters, and the Americans consume 9,8 liters.

It seems that the Russians will have to catch up with America here.

Inside is good, but outside is even better


Victories on the internal front continue with victories on the external. A new leader has emerged in the Middle East. This is Vladimir Putin.

This writes in the publication Al-Quds Ibrahim Navar

In Vladimir Putin, the Middle East has found the “desired dimension”. In a few years (counting down from the 2015 of the year), Putin has managed to bring together the most important players involved in politics in the Middle East. First, he “managed to remove” the United States from leadership in the region: he persuaded Trump to withdraw troops from Syria, saying that he (Putin) had won the war on terror, so the Americans have no reason to stay in Syria. He convinced Assad that his survival would depend on whether the Russians remained in Syria. Putin found enough reason to create a lasting alliance with Iran, whose influence extends from the Persian Gulf to the Eastern Mediterranean. He found a loophole to Saudi Arabia through the channels weapons and oil. But Putin has close contact with Israel through "two million immigrants of Russian origin." In addition, Putin "tamed Erdogan in Turkey." Now the Russian S-400 air defense systems are installed in Turkey, and Erdogan is seriously discussing with Putin the participation in the Sukhoi advanced Russian production program if the US withdraws Ankara from the F-35 aircraft program.

The analyst concludes: "Now Putin can be proud of what he has achieved in the Middle East." And he achieved this: his Muslim friends - Rouhani, the head of the state, who considers himself the leader of the Shiite wing of the Muslim world, and Erdogan, who holds the banner of the Sunni wing. These are two opposite poles that the United States previously tried to push together, fomenting conflict between them. Now, the “Kremlin office of Putin” is the main contact center in the Middle East, working when you need to intervene in difficult situations.

Putin in the Middle East is unrivaled.



In concern for the planet


The Kremlin does not think of the Middle East alone. Climate conservation is a business for everyone. Moscow has signed the Paris Climate Agreement.

True, Pavel Lokshin in «Die Welt» He believes that the Russian president is hardly changing his political course and is truly concerned about the future of earthworms and birds.

The correspondent quotes Putin speaking at an industrial exhibition in Yekaterinburg:
Will people be comfortable living on a planet lined with a picket fence of windmills and covered with several layers of solar panels? How many birds die due to windmills! They shake so much that the worms crawl out of the ground.


According to Lokshin, in this way Putin sends a signal: if you do not care about worms and birds, then you neglect traditional energy sources. Simply put, gas with oil. Which constitute the "basis of the Russian economy", the author says ironically. Coincidence?..

The ratification by the Kremlin of the Paris Agreement, according to Lokshin, is based on "cold calculation." First, Putin intends to portray climate protection and earn more points from Western partners - the ratification of the agreement was not without reason after rapprochement with France and coincided with the UN climate summit. Secondly, Putin is ready to protect Russian gas and oil, which are the most important export items. After all, the country, as before, depends on energy exports.

Climate change does not really need Putin, for it threatens the most important sectors of Russian industry. Almost 45% of oil and gas capacities in the Arctic and Siberia are located in permafrost. With warming, the infrastructure there will be in danger.



So ladies and gentlemen, times are changing. It’s time for the Germans to learn from Russian sobriety, the French too, but in the Middle East the leader has changed, and he is also Russian. Russians also take care of the climate on the planet, earthworms and birds.

Apparently, this is the secret of the longevity of that nation, which was recently called "vodka".
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  1. +20
    7 October 2019 04: 41
    Russians, by the way, traditionally prefer to drink stronger drinks - like vodka.

    In addition to moonshine not lower than 50-60 degrees I do not recognize anything smile and only during non-working hours and for a good snack ... 50 grams for the soul is the most.
    Everything else is just a health spoil.
    1. +41
      7 October 2019 05: 37
      again they are trying to find "victories" where they are not there, they drink, and even as they drink, they drive themselves, vodka is expensive and often "paleonka", distillers are sold in almost every household, and the prices are reasonable, so keep track of when many drive moonshine , and even sell. bullshit all these conclusions. and yes, thank Putin of course ... gee ..
      1. +36
        7 October 2019 05: 58
        Quote: Dead Day
        they drive themselves, vodka is expensive and often "paleonka"

        Moonshine is mainly drunk by 2 types of people: 1 - let's call them gourmets, decent people who like to do something themselves, bring something of their own to the recipe. 2 - drunks, people who have descended (of which in recent years it has become much smaller, they are tracking the data of their internal affairs bodies and I see on the street). Drinking really became less people. In the youth environment has become a fashionable sport! I began to watch how the guys are grouped in the schoolyard near the horizontal bars, they even compete there, but more of them in front of the monitor ... 10-15 years ago and earlier, the horizontal bars rusted.
        I myself don’t drink alcohol at all for about 5-6 years, it’s not connected with any problems, I just don’t want it, I don’t want the children to see me drunk ...
        1. +25
          7 October 2019 06: 09
          Quote: raw174
          Drinking really became less people. In the youth environment has become a fashionable sport! I began to watch how the guys are grouped in the schoolyard near the horizontal bars, they even compete there, but more of them in front of the monitor ... 10-15 years ago and earlier, the horizontal bars rusted.

          I go to work through school, in the evening, when the school is already closed, the same youth sits, drinks beer, plays cards for money (I hear when I go through), the players drive the ball into one goal (no second) and .... mate -math-rewind ... so yes .... sports are in fashion.
          1. +13
            7 October 2019 06: 15
            Quote: Dead Day
            I go to work through school, in the evening, when the school is already closed, the same youth sits, drinks beer, plays cards for money (I hear when I go through), the referees drive the ball into one goal (no second) and .... mate -math-rewind ... so yes .... sports are in fashion.

            But I didn’t say that everyone hit the sport without exception, I’m saying that this fashion has appeared. My good friend, the coach of the rural youth sports school (skiing), says that in the past few years, there has simply been a boom, there is recording already the next year, there are no seats! What is it, I’ve got my oldest daughter (8 years old), I made an acquaintance with him, and so the groups were recruited the next year.
            1. +9
              7 October 2019 06: 45
              Ravil, I agree with you. Now sport is back in fashion. Another thing is the quality of trainers and teachers is low.
              1. +3
                8 October 2019 00: 05
                Quote: 210ox
                Ravil, I agree with you. Now sport is back in fashion. Another thing is the quality of trainers and teachers is low.

                Yes, the main thing is not the quality of the trainers, but the change of priorities changed the beerhouse to the sports camp, health is already a plus.
            2. +3
              7 October 2019 06: 56
              Quote: raw174
              Quote: Dead Day
              I go to work through school, in the evening, when the school is already closed, the same youth sits, drinks beer, plays cards for money (I hear when I go through), the referees drive the ball into one goal (no second) and .... mate -math-rewind ... so yes .... sports are in fashion.

              But I didn’t say that everyone hit the sport without exception, I’m saying that this fashion has appeared. My good friend, the coach of the rural youth sports school (skiing), says that in the past few years, there has simply been a boom, there is recording already the next year, there are no seats! What is it, I’ve got my oldest daughter (8 years old), I made an acquaintance with him, and so the groups were recruited the next year.

              it's nice if so. and here, in the area, degradation is in fashion ..
              1. -3
                7 October 2019 09: 42
                You probably have syringes lying around there?
            3. +11
              7 October 2019 07: 17
              The rural youth sports school, well, you have turned down, there are no simple schools in many villages, but you are a sports school, add a music school, theater and swimming pool, where did you see this in the village? Tell me a secret what kind of village, district and region ????
              1. +11
                7 October 2019 08: 39
                Quote: restless
                The rural youth sports school, well, you have turned down, there are no simple schools in many villages, but you are a sports school, add a music school, theater and swimming pool, where did you see this in the village? Tell me a secret what kind of village, district and region ????

                In my village (the district center is 7 thousand) there is a sports school, an artist and a musician, the same my daughter is simultaneously engaged in a musician, in a wind class, specifically a saxophone. Recently I bought a tool, I have it at school for classes, but I need my own.
              2. +11
                7 October 2019 08: 46
                Quote: restless
                Tell me a secret what kind of village, district and region ????

                Chelyabinsk region Bredinsky district Youth and youth coaches are also in the villages, working from the central: hockey, football, melee, volleyball, skiing ...
              3. +3
                7 October 2019 08: 47
                town. Chernyanka (Chernyansky district)
              4. +7
                7 October 2019 09: 41
                The village of Belaya Glina, Krasnodar Territory (not the coast and the resort), an air-supporting sports complex + stadium + youth sports school + are building another sports complex ..
              5. +9
                7 October 2019 11: 28
                As a rare but pleasant exception, I’ll name a swimming pool in the village of Pavlovka, Marxovsky District, Saratov Region: there is a sports complex with a 50-meter pool (probably the only such rural pool in Russia), there is a poor, but stadium, House of Culture, kindergarten, decent school And so on. And there is also the director of the feeding complex, which, it seems, does not steal, for which he is respected. And they build housing for young families, and decent salaries by the standards of the Saratov region. Who does not believe this - google. But the church is not there. And nothing cost. Practice shows: when a choice arises between a school, a church and a pool, normal people prefer a school and a pool.
                PS: my father occasionally goes to that pool to swim. Father is 92 years old. The fee for visiting (including tea with dryers) for pensioners is 60 rubles.
                1. +1
                  7 October 2019 19: 07
                  I’ll add, there was order in Pavlovka 15 years ago, I’ve been there
                2. +1
                  8 October 2019 00: 19
                  Quote: astepanov
                  Practice shows: when a choice arises between a school, a church and a pool, normal people prefer a school and a pool.

                  It’s good when both the school and the pool, but for the soul it’s still a temple, but not instead, but in a place with ...
                  Sincerely ... hi
                  1. +1
                    8 October 2019 12: 23
                    But in reality, for some reason, there are more churches, and less schools and hospitals. By the number of churches the pre-revolutionary level has already been reached. Splendor! What for us hospitals, schools, libraries, if the pop and forms, and cure, and comfort, and in the other world conducts? And it seems to me that I understand why this is so. But the topic is different.
                    1. 0
                      8 October 2019 13: 35
                      Quote: astepanov
                      But in reality, for some reason, there are more churches, and less schools and hospitals.

                      Where is it? We have on 45 the thousand population, there are three temples operating, as many as 7 general education schools, one music, one sports, Sports Palace with an 25-meter pool. and polytechnic college.
                      Quote: astepanov
                      By the number of churches the pre-revolutionary level has already been reached.

                      belay request ??? In RI there was one temple for 1000 people. We still have to grow and grow in spiritual construction.
                      Quote: astepanov
                      What for us hospitals, schools, libraries, if the pop and forms, and cure, and comfort, and in the other world conducts?

                      No need to contrast religion with health and education. One does not interfere with the other, but complements. In the end, a spiritless atheist teacher can afford to teach children anything, even sexual perversions, and a doctor who does not obey God's commandments can sell human organs in the same hospital.
                      1. -1
                        8 October 2019 14: 18
                        And let's separate religion from the state. Belief in a matter is purely individual.
                      2. +1
                        8 October 2019 15: 03
                        Quote: balunn
                        And let's separate religion from the state. Belief in a matter is purely individual.

                        And let's not separate what is already separated from the state.
                        Article 14 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation: 1. The Russian Federation is a secular state. No religion can be established as state or mandatory. 2. Religious associations are separated from the state and are equal before the law.

                        Source: http://constrf.ru/razdel-1/glava-1/st-14-krf
                      3. +1
                        8 October 2019 18: 42
                        These are all fairy tales. On state television, priests flaunted almost every day, but atheists got their mouths stuck. And one very famous native of the KGB for Easter and Christmas full of television screens demonstrate a commitment to Orthodoxy - representing, by the way, the state. Long-mane crawl into public schools, and have built churches in universities - and not at all with the money of poor students and teachers. And who arranges prayers on the day of knowledge in schools? Notice in public schools. So the article is article, and life is arranged differently.
                      4. 0
                        10 October 2019 10: 19
                        Quote: astepanov
                        These are all fairy tales.

                        This is the constitution. Tales are with you.
                        Quote: astepanov
                        And one very famous native of the KGB on Easter and Christmas full of television screens demonstrate a commitment to Orthodoxy

                        Article 28 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation:
                        Everyone is guaranteed freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, including the right to individually or jointly with others profess any religion or not to profess any, freely choose, have and disseminate religious and other beliefs and act in accordance with them.
                      5. +2
                        10 October 2019 11: 22
                        Yes, yes, tell this to someone who has no eyes, and better - and a head. He will definitely believe you. I talked with students and teachers of the Saratov University, in whose territory at the expense of the university (!) A temple was built. Almost everyone takes this negatively, the university was essentially robbed. No one asked people what they needed: renovating classrooms and new appliances, or a chapel for hundreds of millions. And here you are telling tales.
                      6. 0
                        10 October 2019 11: 49
                        Quote: astepanov
                        I talked with students and teachers of the Saratov University, in whose territory at the expense of the university (!) A temple was built. Almost everyone takes this negatively, the university was essentially robbed.

                        If the university leadership violated financial discipline, inappropriately wasting state. funds, then the rector and the chief accountant would be on trial, or already sitting. So do not tell tales. The temple is built on voluntary donations. You are either simply off topic or deliberately lying. But then you are a scoundrel.
                      7. +1
                        10 October 2019 12: 16
                        Quote: Nick
                        If the university leadership violated financial discipline, inappropriately wasting state. funds, then the rector and the chief accountant would be on trial, or already sitting.

                        Before you hang labels, you would get into the history of the issue. There - forgery for forgery and money. The temple was listed as "a student youth cultural and educational center at SSU", and then it started ... Read here: https://om-saratov.ru/po-sushchestvu/26-february-2014-i8859-kak-sgu- postroil-dlya-eparx
                      8. -1
                        10 October 2019 12: 41
                        Quote: astepanov
                        Before you hang labels, you would get into the history of the issue. There - forgery for forgery and money. The temple was listed as "" student's youth cultural and educational center at SSU ", and then it started ... Read here:

                        I read and understood that the current state, at least in this particular case, as in the Soviet period, is fighting against Orthodox believers, trying by hook or by crook to prevent the Orthodox community of SSU from completing the construction of its church, in place of the chapel taken away by the state in 1918 among Orthodox believers. So our state "builds" churches, persecuting Orthodox activists and trying to initiate criminal cases against them.
                      9. +1
                        10 October 2019 13: 08
                        Temple to replace the chapel? With university money? By forgery? Do you think this is correct? Yes, and this your brother believes that they are the guardians of morality. Activists, say? Are they the ones who decide what to watch, what kind of show-shows and performances should I go to? The Black Hundreds are not activists. Worse than the fools from Pussy Riot. And those and others to drive you up.
                      10. -2
                        10 October 2019 14: 38
                        Quote: astepanov
                        Temple to replace the chapel? With university money? By forgery?

                        There is no talk of forgery. Construction site was allocated by SSU in response to an appeal from the Orthodox community of SSU. More than 300 signatures were collected under an appeal to the Rector with a request to build a new church and a spiritual and educational youth center under it. The idea of ​​building the complex was officially confirmed by the decision of the Academic Council of the University of Saratov from April 24 to 2007 of the year.
                        Funding for the temple itself comes from donations. This was announced in an interview by the rector of the Church of St. Kirill (Krasnoshchekov): "... Probably, like all temple construction projects, ours experienced and is experiencing constant financial difficulties, since the temple is being built on voluntary donations ..."
                        I have no reason not to believe the priest. The court has not proved otherwise.
                        In addition, we must take into account that not only the Temple was originally built, but a complex, where a youth center and premises for the reception of psychologists are also planned. Lecture hall, library, exhibition hall.
                        But to militant atheists, like you, everything is numb. Not only that, the Soviet state, for the Orthodox Faith, many thousands of Orthodox priests, monks and lay people were killed, tens of thousands were sent to camps and subjected to persecution, and now the descendants of these servants of the Antichrist continue to spread rot on the Orthodox people, and the state is attacked by the Orthodox communities. authorities trying to bring Orthodox believers to criminal and administrative responsibility.
                        Yes, the state did not compensate the Orthodox and a thousandth of what was lost through his fault. The state is in unpaid debt to the Russian Orthodox Church.
                      11. +1
                        10 October 2019 15: 05
                        Stop kamlata, father. I was in that church because I once graduated from that very university. And don't lie: there is no youth center, no doctors, no library, but there is an ordinary church. An absurdly huge, disfiguring architectural ensemble of the university. About 300 people signed up for the construction - out of almost thirty thousand students and employees. One in a hundred! And money for construction from voluntary donations, if there was, then very little; 58 million from the university treasury were seized by "priests", having turned the scam together with officials.
                        And stop lying about the "unpaid debt of the state to the church." What has the state taken from the church? And who by name? Putin? Medvedev? Shoigu? Another state
                        we do not have. Or do you blame them for not letting you turn the country into an Orthodox counterpart to Iran or Somalia, just more ugly? Zadolbali bozhedoma and holy fools. I don’t want to talk to you.
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                      13. 0
                        10 October 2019 15: 07
                        Quote: Snake
                        [b] [/ Interpretation] Interpretation from these lame people: there they give wine from infancy, accustoming to alcoholism. And then the alcoholics grown by the temple underneath it and teleport doing begging in order to revel and piss around the temple there, instead of working.

                        I did not see a single alcoholic wallowing in the Orthodox church. If something bad happens to a person, the Orthodox will not leave him lying around. He will call an ambulance, or he will help, he will put him on a bench.
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                      15. 0
                        11 October 2019 17: 17
                        Quote: Snake
                        And I saw, and what is typical for an Orthodox church (and not just one), they will beg for alms and run after a pile of beetles. I say to one young man: "Why are you, dear man, right at the temple, you pour yourself over, and then you lie around drunk and pissing"? And he answers me: "And where can I drink, if my mother dragged me here, when I was still a fool, and Cahors were shoved into my mouth. So I got addicted, now, like my other drinking companions, who have also become drunks against their will, here we accept on the chest as in childhood, and the fact that we are sprinkled, there is no fault of ours - it's all the zhushka is guilty. " And the priest looks at all this, but only makes fun of the alcoholics he has made, saying: "Look how little people

                        Yes, you, a snake, a big inventor. The sacrament is prepared from bread diluted with 1: 3 Cahors wine. Communion is given with a special spoon, in it from the strength of 4 gr. fits. And besides, in which there is also a piece of bread. Even if an 0,1 gram of alcohol enters the body, even a baby will not get drunk from it. Moreover, they take communion of children with a practically dampened spoon. And they take communion, as a rule, no more often than 4 once a year. So, do not have fairy tales. look for fools elsewhere.
                3. +1
                  8 October 2019 19: 56
                  In the Volgograd region, wash in a bath -300 rub. For pensioners-265 rub.
              6. +6
                7 October 2019 12: 22
                In any district center (among them there are not only cities and towns, but also villages), as a rule, there is a sports school, a music school, or a center for children's creativity. Sometimes such establishments are found in large villages that are not district centers, especially in those that were district centers before the Khrushchev enlargement of the regions. But the usual villages and villages of the youth sports school and music schools were not even in Soviet times.
              7. +3
                7 October 2019 20: 35
                Quote: restless
                The rural youth sports school, well, you have turned down, there are no simple schools in many villages, but you are a sports school, add a music school, theater and swimming pool, where did you see this in the village? Tell me a secret what kind of village, district and region ????

                For example, in Tatarstan, in every large village and village, new pools, ice covered skating rinks were built, some of which I built hi
              8. +1
                8 October 2019 00: 08
                Quote: restless
                Tell me a secret what kind of village, district and region ????

                You can understand by nickname. Chelyabinsk or region
          2. +4
            7 October 2019 06: 43
            Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.
            1. -9
              7 October 2019 06: 48
              Quote: 210ox
              Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

              This "old man" seems to be delirious under the steam of moonshine, which he himself drives, sells himself, and jams with the same "old men".
              Striking another, the number of pluses of the comments of this "old man".
              1. +4
                7 October 2019 06: 52
                I have nothing against colleagues on the site. Different opinions, different people .. Well, you have to be objective.
              2. -1
                7 October 2019 12: 57
                Maybe with an independent?
                1. -4
                  8 October 2019 00: 23
                  Quote: Alexy
                  Maybe with an independent?

                  Oops ... It seems so. hi
                2. -2
                  8 October 2019 15: 53
                  Quote: Alexy
                  Maybe with an independent?

                  So many minuses you and I have thrown. So to the point. Ukroshumery here, and obviously not one or two.
              3. -5
                8 October 2019 00: 11
                Quote: Dietmar
                Striking another, the number of pluses of the comments of this "old man".

                As the flags under the avatars were canceled, it seems that here the landing party had landed. Such comments are sometimes issued. Immediately clear - dill of the brain.
            2. +10
              7 October 2019 07: 18
              Quote: 210ox
              Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

              Quote: 210ox
              Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

              Sverdlovsk region ... the district, and you, I will be forced to go after the night shift, and take off our stadium ..., I’m leaving, although heel spurs are pinning, but I’m leaving, apparently only reality will sober up some, (I will return to the topic , I went, angry, upset, I will smoke and go) this is about 40 minutes.
              1. 0
                7 October 2019 08: 00
                Quote: Dead Day
                Quote: 210ox
                Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

                Quote: 210ox
                Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

                Sverdlovsk region ... the district, and you, I will be forced to go after the night shift, and take off our stadium ..., I’m leaving, although heel spurs are pinning, but I’m leaving, apparently only reality will sober up some, (I will return to the topic , I went, angry, upset, I will smoke and go) this is about 40 minutes.

                and so ... so, I went, frost today the size of some kind of file is large ... so, I can not cope with these phones, "zenith" was good, and now, you need to know so much, and the memory is already like in "dandy ". I try to help my grandchildren, they are like fish in water. in these internet of yours.
                1. +9
                  7 October 2019 08: 13
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  Quote: Dead Day
                  Quote: 210ox
                  Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

                  Quote: 210ox
                  Grandfather, where do you live? School territories are now closed and guarded. Even in our village .. If someone drinks from young people, they find other places.

                  Sverdlovsk region ... the district, and you, I will be forced to go after the night shift, and take off our stadium ..., I’m leaving, although heel spurs are pinning, but I’m leaving, apparently only reality will sober up some, (I will return to the topic , I went, angry, upset, I will smoke and go) this is about 40 minutes.

                  and so ... so, I went, frost today the size of some kind of file is large ... so, I can not cope with these phones, "zenith" was good, and now, you need to know so much, and the memory is already like in "dandy ". I try to help my grandchildren, they are like fish in water. in these internet of yours.




                  well, as it were, a "wedding palace" for the entourage, and a "network" to catch up ... with "junkies" in the basement .. "like" club ".... oha ... and yes ... glory to Putin!
                  1. -33
                    7 October 2019 08: 45
                    There is nothing to answer for the cotton bot.

                    Well, I can only sympathize with you. Hold on there!

                    But it’s good to export women from your region to those places where they are more valued)
                    1. 0
                      8 October 2019 00: 33
                      Quote: Potato
                      There is nothing to answer for the cotton bot.

                      Answered already.
                      Quote: Potato
                      Well, I can only sympathize with you. Hold on there!

                      You are holding on there. Donbass will come to your aid soon.
                  2. +2
                    7 October 2019 09: 44
                    Yeah, Putin personally pours vodka into his throat. At gunpoint.
                  3. +7
                    7 October 2019 09: 53
                    I am not a supporter of Putin. In appearance, I don’t see any school. I don’t bother you anyway. I go to my small homeland in Smolensk (there are the graves of my parents) and I see that devastation compared to Kuban . But in the regional center they are engaged in sports, there is infrastructure, a sports university, I’m not talking about where I live now. However, I have less drunkenness, I’m completely silent about work, if they smell freshly, they’ll immediately dismiss
                  4. 0
                    7 October 2019 10: 07
                    Where did grandfather dig such a thing? Your measure (and after all you have chosen it) it is necessary to hang up on the registry office at feberge together with the executive committee! Putin is to blame for you?
                    1. 0
                      7 October 2019 12: 43
                      Quote: monah
                      Where did grandfather dig such a thing? Your measure (and after all you have chosen it) it is necessary to hang up on the registry office at feberge together with the executive committee! Putin is to blame for you?

                      duck where ... the current. went down and took off, and the city hall she is for EP! all together! no one is selected, all are appointed from above.
                      1. -5
                        8 October 2019 00: 40
                        Quote: Dead Day
                        duck where ... the current. went down and took off, and the city hall she is for EP! all together! no one is selected, all are appointed from above.

                        And then you can go to the polls / vote? When people don’t give a damn about themselves, then they don’t give a damn about the local authorities either. Moreover, you are too lazy to vote for her to go to the polls.
                    2. -6
                      8 October 2019 00: 36
                      Quote: monah
                      Where did grandfather dig such a thing? Your measure (and after all you have chosen it) it is necessary to hang up on the registry office at feberge together with the executive committee! Putin is to blame for you?

                      And in them so. They won’t wash the shit out of the toilet — Putin is to blame.
                  5. +3
                    7 October 2019 11: 02
                    The point is not in Putin, but in the locals themselves! In our district (village) there are 11 hockey courts, of which 9 are plastic, 2 are wooden and all are flooded in winter and it is not Putin who pours them, but the residents themselves, the administration gives an insert to the water supply system or allocates a water carrier. Everything is organized either by the coach, or the head of the settlement, or simply not an indifferent man, in different ways ...
                    1. +1
                      7 October 2019 12: 46
                      Quote: raw174
                      The point is not in Putin, but in the locals themselves! In our district (village) there are 11 hockey courts, of which 9 are plastic, 2 are wooden and all are flooded in winter and it is not Putin who pours them, but the residents themselves, the administration gives an insert to the water supply system or allocates a water carrier. Everything is organized either by the coach, or the head of the settlement, or simply not an indifferent man, in different ways ...

                      great .. and assign yourself pensions, and give out apartments, you are not indifferent to our ... why do you need power? declare autonomy!
                      1. -12
                        7 October 2019 12: 59
                        Quote: raw174
                        Everything is organized either by the trainer, or the head of the settlement, or simply not an indifferent man

                        Quote: Dead Day
                        and assign pensions to yourself, and give out apartments

                        Someone here has a delirium, a campaign ... Yes
                    2. +5
                      7 October 2019 21: 14
                      Quote: raw174
                      and the residents themselves, the administration gives an insert to the water supply system or allocates a water carrier.

                      PGT Mezhdurechensk - the administration wanted to spit, and instead of the insets, all the columns in the village were closed. Drinking water is really nowhere to collect.
                  6. -4
                    8 October 2019 00: 31
                    Quote: Dead Day
                    and yes ... glory to Putin!

                    And what you filmed is not clear. Make a geolocation of a photo.
              2. -1
                8 October 2019 00: 24
                Quote: Dead Day
                Sverdlovsk region ... district, and you, I will be forced to go after the night shift and rent our stadium ..

                With geodata. Let your administration be ashamed.
            3. +10
              7 October 2019 17: 26
              Mr. Eagle. The school is guarded by a guard. Drink and prick on the territory at night. Surveillance cameras are cut. The city was drowned in left-handed alcohol. In the morning you go to work, and to the neighbor Alkanauts are pulled in packs for diluted alcohol at 70 rubles per bottle. Fighting is useless. Policemen also cover the owner of the underground workshop and its distributors. About the hawthorn and its analogues in general I am silent. In courtyards adjacent to pharmacies, everything is strewn with empty bubbles.
              1. -6
                8 October 2019 00: 28
                Quote: Needle
                Mr. Eagle. The school is guarded by a guard. Drink and prick on the territory at night. Surveillance cameras are cut. The city was drowned in left-handed alcohol.

                Well, you have "eagles" in the administration. Change the city government, and for one and the regional, since she does not see what is going on under her nose. Just do not be too lazy to go to the polls. Otherwise they will decide everything without you.
                1. 0
                  9 October 2019 23: 08
                  We go to the polls, but still it is decided without us. One governor was removed, which of the former brothers of the 90s, so after that he received a medal for a good job. Such a cheerful man was:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8jeaFqpXTQ

                  Now Klychkov’s jerk was thrown at the embrasure.
                  1. 0
                    10 October 2019 10: 23
                    Quote: Needle
                    We go to the polls, but still it is decided without us.

                    Nonsense. If you vote in elections, then without you it is not decided. Another question is, who has more money for selective advertising (company), he often wins.
                    1. 0
                      10 October 2019 16: 24
                      It’s clear that only edros are promoted, the people see other candidates only on posters on election day. It is also with the governors: whoever the electoral administration appoints, they talk about that for days on end, he wins.
                      Quote: Nick
                      If you vote in elections, then without you it is not decided
                      Even as decided. If you tell the whole story of the election, then vomiting will begin.
          3. +7
            7 October 2019 08: 47
            Quote: Dead Day
            in the evening, when the school is already closed, the same youth sits, drinks beer

            Question to the policeman, write a statement, do not be indifferent (not sarcasm)
            1. +6
              7 October 2019 21: 23
              Quote: raw174
              Question to the district police officer, write a statement, do not be indifferent

              Seriously? Everybody knows drug points, but they trade as well as trade. Five-liter vodka is brought home according to advertisements that hang on the porches. In the internet it is enough to dial "Buy 5 liters of vodka", and you will get a whole set of sites offering home delivery. And you mean the district police officer?
              https://konyak-vodka178.ru/
              1. +1
                9 October 2019 23: 20
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Everyone knows the drug points, but they both traded and traded.

                I’ll say more: a gypsy house is visible from the school window and how young people regularly go there. They contacted the police and asked the commissioner for minors at a general school meeting. The answer was shocking: no one forces your child to use this muck.
                They realized it only when schoolchildren robbed five nearby houses over the summer:

                A series of thefts that have occurred since September in the Zheleznodorozhny district of Orel was uncovered by police. Law enforcement officers red-handedly detained the housekeepers, whose prey became other people's savings, jewelry, weapons and elite alcohol.

                The “company” gathered rather specific things among thieves: a 29-year-old local resident who had previously been convicted, as well as a 69-year-old pensioner and two teenagers - 16 and 17 years old.


                Mining was sold to these same gypsies. They helped them steal. This same 69-year-old was just from this camp. I was waiting for them with my loot in my car.
                The gypsies were shocked with riot police; for three months the shop was closed. Now they are selling poison in full again.
          4. -1
            7 October 2019 09: 14
            What to see around a fly, and what a bee? Each has its own worldview.
          5. +8
            7 October 2019 10: 34
            Quote: Dead Day
            I go to work through school, in the evening, when the school is already closed, the same youth sits, drinks beer, plays cards for money (I hear when I go through)

            You, as Grandfather Old, should remember 90 e no worse than us and understand what the difference is. They will always drink, but then it was just fashionable to be addicted and smokers. Forever Young Forever drunk. A man running in the morning was looked at as abnormal. For example, in our city park at that time there were unlit alleys on which they drank on each bench. Now in the same park asphalt paths with lighting are laid and a lot of people are continuously running along them, and a lot of people are walking with Swedish walking. Where did the drinkers go? No, they are also present, but they made a separate zone for them with gazebos and barbecues (for me, it’s also a miracle - nobody steals metal barbecues !!!). Well, they drink somehow less doomed today. Previously, it was clear that they were eating in umat, they were pouring depression, without compromise. Now they are sitting with barbecue, running, jumping, dancing - they also seem to be throwing themselves, but somehow fun. :-) And noticeably there were fewer dips that hawthorn thumps in pharmacies - they did not disappear, but they obviously became smaller.
          6. +1
            7 October 2019 11: 18
            Much depends on the point of view smile


            There is always a choice Yes
            1. -2
              7 October 2019 12: 49
              Quote: Gnefredov
              Much depends on the point of view smile


              There is always a choice Yes

              most importantly, select the color of the glasses.
              1. -12
                7 October 2019 12: 53
                Quote: Dead Day
                most importantly, choose the color of the glasses

                ... and the model.

                Break yours on ... away, in them, except Mr. N., nothing is visible Yes
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            2. -3
              7 October 2019 17: 42
              Unfortunately, the majority in Russia see only shit - it was so vital and consciousness was formed purely depressively negative.
          7. 0
            8 October 2019 01: 09
            All young people drink beer and play cards, this does not mean that they do not play sports. It does not interfere
        2. +5
          7 October 2019 06: 17
          Moonshine is mainly drunk by 2 types of people: 1 - we call them gourmets, decent people who like to do something themselves, bring something of their own to the recipe. 2 - drunks, deserted people (of which in recent years has become much smaller,

          I do not quite agree ...
          when I closely began to study the history of moonshine in Russia, I was simply struck by this ... such an interesting topic ... I went through the entire Internet to understand this issue.
          In Russia, a peculiar system of lovers of this drink has developed ... I exclude from this society drunks and people with alcohol.
          It turns out that in order to make a good and high-quality drink, you need to know all the nuances of its preparation ... starting from high-quality equipment to various mixtures and additives ... of course, the technology of preparation is extremely important ... the slightest mistake and you get a swine ... but when you overcome all the obstacles you get the pure ragweed at the exit that can not be compared with a store swill ... of course, it is important to observe the measure of drinking and never step over it.
          As for drunks and people who have fallen, I met a lot of such people in my life ... they drink as a rule a low-grade swill and the life of such people is short and sad.
          1. +3
            7 October 2019 10: 05
            I would like to add that the cost of good moonshine is not so low. And the equipment is also not cheap.
            Alcoholics themselves will not cook. The reasons are cooking time and costs. it’s easier for them to buy and drink right now than to wait 3-5 days.
        3. +11
          7 October 2019 08: 47
          yes it is already good to tell fiction !!! drink less ... over the past years, two beer boutiques have doubled. and the beer is crappy. "any three for a hundred" - this means that for three liters of liquor there is only one hundred rubles! and take !!! fired vodka in stores - fill up, but expensive. the same for bottling 500-600 for a five-liter bottle. and they play in certain places (which everyone knows) tasks laden with "tits" .... unobtrusive advertising at the entrance to the city in the sibishki channel.
        4. +1
          7 October 2019 13: 57
          For yourself and for the environment: next to the house there are three tennis courts, one volleyball court, a park with a stadium, sometimes it’s all about how on the horizontal bars. There are always a lot of people, I go to play tennis three times a week myself, play with young people, the losing team is wrung out, without any discounts. Alcohol, yes, is present, but imagine, they are embarrassed and stuck, because it’s a shame to the comrades, who are most not drinkers .
        5. 0
          7 October 2019 23: 50
          Quote: raw174
          In the youth environment has become a fashionable sport! I began to watch how the guys are grouped in the school yard near the horizontal bars, they even compete there,

          A couple of days ago I was quite surprised to see two girls hanging out on the horizontal bars in our square. And the guys there, on the sports ground, are constantly hanging.
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      2. +8
        7 October 2019 06: 29
        And here I do not agree. People began to hold on to work - the employer does not like a drunkard.
        1. 0
          7 October 2019 23: 55
          Quote: 210ox
          And here I do not agree. People began to hold on to work - the employer does not like a drunkard.

          Yes, and the family began to use the car daily. Try to get behind the wheel of a hangover. The wife will arrange an auto-da-fe. And before, even those lucky ones who had a car in the family got behind the wheel once a week in the summer. Drive to the village, to the forest or fishing
      3. -1
        7 October 2019 07: 55
        Grandfather do not drive. I don’t drink and the environment is the same. laughing Do not drive moonshine or snowstorm.
      4. +6
        7 October 2019 08: 37
        it’s like a sivuha was pulling, open your eyes, walk the streets, especially noticeable after the new year, I remember in the morning people thumped, and not just one day, but now a few
      5. -12
        7 October 2019 08: 44
        Quote: Dead Day
        again they are trying to find "victories" where they are not there, they drink, and even as they drink, they drive themselves, vodka is expensive and often "paleonka", distillers are sold in almost every household, and the prices are reasonable, so keep track of when many drive moonshine , and even sell. bullshit all these conclusions. and thank Putin of course ... gee.

        There is a good Russian proverb ... - "A pig, will always find dirt"! The drinking generation is dying out. Drunken mastodons, apologists of sicism .. He who drank, he drinks like a pig. ! The main thing is that young people have different values ​​...
        1. +8
          7 October 2019 12: 03
          About drunken mastodons-apologists of "sicilism" it would be better to be silent ... If you do not know and have not seen .. That young people (though not all) have other values, I agree.
        2. +8
          7 October 2019 17: 21
          Who drank, he drinks like a pig. ! The main thing is that young people have different values ​​...

          That's the trouble. Individual farmers and egoists to the core. Of course they don't, of course the "smart" ones. Only they are not Russians - they are "Americans". Even with a portrait of Putin and the flag of the Russian Federation - the Americans. In spirit, in relation to people, in career, in life values. Take pity on the puppy and drown the neighbor.
          And do not flatter yourself - instead of vodka, many of them simply have a new psychological defense - religion.
          It’s better or worse, I don’t know. I see one thing - after a generation they can easily be exchanged for New Yorkers without much tension. Only a Soviet man, even if he drinks a bit more, could afford the luxury of being generous.
          1. +2
            7 October 2019 20: 38
            Quote: dauria
            drinking a bit stronger, could afford the luxury of being generous.

            And because more than half of my friends are reclining on the graveyard ... Because in those happy times, if you don’t drink, it means a snitch or a bastard ... So they drank the country ...
      6. +7
        7 October 2019 13: 48
        Quote: Dead Day
        when many people drive moonshine, and even

        And in Germany they persecute him and drink, and in France. And not our immigrants, but native Germans and French

        We treated in Baden and near Strasbourg moonshine from plums, apricots and pears.

        And they drive the wine.

        and in no reference to these figures, no.

        And how do they sandal their schnapps with ... beer, well, put them away! Slaughter - by cracking the head - a mixture!
      7. -2
        7 October 2019 23: 46
        Quote: Dead Day
        again they are trying to find "victories" where they are not there, they drink, and even as they drink, they drive themselves, vodka is expensive and often "paleonka", distillers are sold in almost every household, and the prices are reasonable, so keep track of when many drive moonshine , and even sell. bullshit all these conclusions. and yes, thank Putin of course ... gee ..

        Yes. Due to moonshine and health, the nation recovered. They began to live longer. Yes
    2. -4
      7 October 2019 06: 52
      Mendeleev would not forgive you)
      1. +9
        7 October 2019 09: 14
        Many years ago I stood, which means I’m catching the signs of the coming spring: the sun is shining, the puddles in the road potholes are shining, the sparrows are chirping loudly at the bottom of the feeder ...
        And then a "windbreaker" appeared on the road! Quite young, and by sight you can’t say that you are familiar with trigonometry, but what a diligently he wrote out a sinusoid! Absolutely perfect! I was delighted - if you walk like that on purpose, it won't work. Looks like alcohol gives some special math skills. But when the second went after the first, all that remained was to be horrified. With loud rewind mates, he hurried after the first wind fighter, as if following in his tracks. The language turned and turned badly, the speech apparatus, issuing not so much words as mooing, was difficult to control, and the legs exactly copied the sinusoidal trajectory of the enemy! And it was 11 am.
        Over time, numerous cases of dealing with the wind have become a thing of the past. They began to drink at night, then to arrange sluggish fights under the windows - this is when the opponents, hanging one on top of the other, have a rest, and then remembering why they are here, they again start unsuccessfully tearing each other to the inarticulate cheering of the spectators resting on the playground. And it doesn’t matter who the opponent is - man or woman. One of them, tired, sooner or later settle down to rest on the pavement.
        Years have passed ...
        The alcohol industry works at full capacity. A few years ago, in addition to a monstrously rich assortment of drinks for all tastes and purses, glasses of vodka appeared in stores. With caps. No money for a bottle? No drinking companion? Take a glass! Only 70 rubles! They take it. The elderly.
        Young people line up for drinks at Red and White, after looking for discounts on the Internet. The "respectable" public loads their trunks with alcohol at the "Five". And - my god! - what boxes, with what glasses and mugs attached to the bottle! Civilization, however.
        The windbreakers of the previous "bottling" staged a demonstration show only on September 2. Kvasili from six in the morning on the playground and then fought at about one in the afternoon, so I had to escort two little schoolgirls past them - the girls were afraid! At my ferocious "Shame on you!", Addressed to one of the two young beaten (the second was sitting on the ground, shaking his head), a handsome guy with a coolly racked face smiled sweetly: "Excuse us, please! We celebrate Knowledge Day!" And then he burst into loud profanity after the departing opponents. And those have muzzles - intact and surprisingly similar to those that were in the photo in the article about sergeants at the VO. Apparently, there really was a Day of Knowledge. Only different for everyone. In the morning, high school students from "good" families crowded around the high-rise building. Before going to school, they drank port - according to tradition? Or maybe out of fear - like diving into icy water.
        I don’t know whether they began to drink less in our village. The behavior of the drunk has changed, it is now not as demonstrative as before. Sine waves are not observed.
        1. +5
          7 October 2019 14: 48
          Quote: depressant
          I don’t know whether they began to drink less in our village. The behavior of the drunk has changed, it is now not as demonstrative as before. Sine waves are not observed.

          Lyudmila, you have the talent of a writer, I am pleased to read your comments hi
        2. -18
          7 October 2019 16: 44
          I don’t know whether they began to drink less in our village.

          Hear. "depressant" LEE. Don't drive the messenger, to tell us how not to eat is not a trick. But don't shit. if about yours - say so ... "I am not me, the cow is not mine, but they started drinking less - but I don't know"
          1. +2
            7 October 2019 20: 40
            Hear
            Baby, you would not be rude!
            1. -5
              8 October 2019 15: 13
              Not the little ones, believe me, but said ... That’s what I said - that’s what I meant,
    3. +2
      7 October 2019 08: 59
      The appetizer must be right. If you consume large amounts of fatty foods with alcohol, the consequences for the liver, pancreas and for the whole body will be catastrophic.
      1. +3
        7 October 2019 10: 09
        quality must be alcohol first
        1. +1
          7 October 2019 12: 05
          If you drink it a lot, anyway, it is of high quality or not of high quality. If, along with alcohol, consume lard and (or) fatty meat, it also does not matter if it is of high quality or of poor quality.
          1. 0
            7 October 2019 13: 17
            I do not argue ... just fat and fatty meat try not to eat. Prefer other snacks.
      2. -1
        7 October 2019 14: 38
        Did not try to drink? It helps ...
    4. +6
      7 October 2019 09: 16
      Why so strong? To burn the mucous membrane?
      1. +7
        7 October 2019 10: 44
        Actually, "if someone" lights the Sun ", then it is beneficial for someone" ... wink So, this is "well, well not without reason." Yes Recently, in the Russian media, the topic of "harmfulness of alcohol" has become unobtrusive, but not so much in terms of "health", but in terms of its ..... "accessibility" - here you are talking about selling from the age of 21 , about the "harmfulness" of his (alcohol) sale in grocery stores .... stop - "here, then the dog, most likely, rummaged", as one well-known character in Russia (and "abroad") said: If you look closely at this "anti-alcohol policy and advertising", you will notice that it "smoothly" brings the population to the "necessity", "justification" of transferring the sale of alcoholic beverages to "specialized stores", such as "Red and White", "Litra "and so on. which somehow" unexpectedly "appeared in all cities and multiplied in significant quantities. Now we "turn on our brains," we start thinking and come to the conclusion that there is simply lobbying by the owners (or the owner) of these alcohol distribution networks, that is, lobbying to transfer the sale of all alcohol in Russia to them in the network. That is, “someone” thus takes care of filling his purse with “alcoholic” money and nothing more. Most likely, this is already, the matter has been decided - a decision has already been made to transfer the sale of alcohol to specialized stores with a motivation like: well, this is how it is done in the whole "civilized world", "like in Europe and the USA", "this is a concern for health nation "," remove alcohol from the eyes, reduce its "unmotivated" purchase ", etc. Yes, of course, this is" concern for the population and its health ", yeah. laughing Yes
        Yes, and amusing against this background, the proposals of some "smart deputies" to label alcoholic beverages with "faceless" labels such as - on a white background, the inscription in simple letters - "White wine, brand" Livadia ". Fortress 11,5%" ..... This is Why, I’m my moonshine, I sign (mark) right on the bottle with a “permanent felt-tip pen” - at the time of the “exit” and from which I drove ... and without any labels ... Yes
        1. +4
          7 October 2019 11: 32
          Now we "turn on our brains," we start thinking and come to the conclusion that there is simply lobbying by the owners (or the owner) of these alcohol distribution networks, that is, lobbying to transfer the sale of all alcohol in Russia to them in the network. That is, “someone” thus takes care of filling his purse with “alcoholic” money and nothing more.
          From a marketing point of view, it is a deadly decision for the alcohol market. Why? Because now grocery stores such as "magnet", "pyaterochka", "crossroads", "coin" are already in almost every courtyard, and each of them has an alcohol separator. How much alcohol is bought when you call "the wife sent for bread", or "went to buy eggs in the evening after work"? Tons all over the country! In any case, people go for food every day, and some of them, not thinking about buying booze, but casting their eyes at the showcase with pivasik, buys along the way. I saw - I wanted to! In the case of an alcohol store, which is geographically located separately, you have to specially stomp to it, that is, make some effort. Of course, the people who did not have enough, or whose holiday tomorrow, will definitely make such efforts. But thousands of people - no, because they are too lazy, and they will not remember at all that you can drink a bottle of beer in the evening until they see the window.
          1. +1
            7 October 2019 11: 47
            Well, my brother-in-law, tied to logistics, has recently been telling me that there is a "war" going on between the owners of food chains and those who are lobbying for the transfer of alcohol sales from these chains to specialized networks. The owners of food chains in many ways "go out" to sell alcohol, and if alcohol is withdrawn from them, then they will have "seams" at all. However, those (or - "that" wink ) who lobbies for the transfer of alcohol into their network is too close to "the right ears" and, most likely, the issue has already been resolved. It seems that they agreed (a compromise - "sik") that beer and alcohol up to 5,6% will be left in retail stores. wink
        2. -1
          7 October 2019 12: 11
          all that you wrote conspiracy the usual. my job is the wholesale sales of the very alcohol. large wholesale. so I’ll explain, it’s easier to control the network. and our sales are falling year by year. and the only reason for this drop is a reduction in consumption. and retail is cooperating in a bunch that is easy to keep within. as for red and white, let’s wait until the end of the investigation because their pricing policy has no foundation. this is a hot topic in narrow circles and everyone is interested in how they do it contrary to all the laws of logic.
    5. +3
      7 October 2019 10: 44
      And who keeps the draft vodka? Five-liter, half-pie and just poured into their containers. This is who takes into account. Moreover, quite normal people drink 5 liters, but out of economy. How is this taken into account? But in general, they began to drink less is a fact. Judging by their surroundings and the koldyry on the street.
    6. +3
      7 October 2019 10: 45
      According to a WHO report, adult Russians consume 11,7 liters of pure alcohol per capita. For comparison: the Germans consume 13,4 liters, the French consume 12,6 liters, the inhabitants of the United Kingdom consume 11,4 liters, and the Americans consume 9,8 liters.

      It seems that the Russians will have to catch up with America here.

      These statistics are fake, which is more like cheap stuffing for hype.
      For example, there is such data ..

      Moreover, this table is also not a standard of veracity ...
      There is such a table for 2016 year ...

      There is such a table ..

      Moreover, Belarus and Moldova are noteworthy in this rating ... in one table Moldova ranks first with 15 liters (there were numbers for 18 liters as well), while in others it is not at all. Well, did the Moldovans stop drinking sharply? The same story with Belarusians.
      What am I saying this ... all these tables, statistics are so deceitful and politicized that it makes no sense to speak seriously about any true information. From my own experience I know that the British with mattresses drink as if they were unconscious, and against their background, Russians are just teetotalers and ulcers.
      1. +5
        7 October 2019 11: 10
        Quote: NEXUS
        From my own experience I know that the British with mattresses drink as if they were unconscious, and against their background, Russians are just teetotalers and ulcers.

        I confirm. A colleague has just returned from a two-week trip to London. He was shocked by what was happening on Friday night in the city - they thump like on our city day in the 90 years, right here under the windows of offices, in crowds. They thump so that for a stranger this holiday of life looks threatening and causes fears for its health when trying to walk along the street.
        But at the same time, the choice of alcohol in grocery stores is extremely scarce, and even does not closely resemble ours. From the power of 4-5 grades of wine and as much whiskey. All.
      2. +1
        7 October 2019 12: 13
        I can throw another 20 different tables. but the WHO statistics is a reference. read the source and all.
      3. -3
        7 October 2019 14: 54
        Quote: NEXUS
        From my own experience I know that the British with mattresses drink as if they were unconscious, and against their background, Russians are just teetotalers and ulcers.

        It seems to me that the Finns and Germans take the first place, then the British, then we .. Americans are more and more addicted to antidepressants .. yes, drugs .. This is of course according to my personal feelings, if without tables ..
    7. -2
      7 October 2019 23: 42
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      In addition to moonshine not lower than 50-60 degrees, I don’t admit anything and only during non-working hours and for a good snack ... the 50 gram is the best thing for the soul.

      And preferably not every day. If possible ...
  2. +12
    7 October 2019 04: 44
    Yeah! Has consumption decreased? Do not rush my sandals. True, vodka has grown in price, and it has become less consumed, and moonshine is sold as in the nineties. There were more, much more points of sale for this swill! And they drink it much more often than vodka. What sobriety is discussed in this article? There are more drunks. Especially in single-industry towns. The work is done, they took up the population.
    1. +6
      7 October 2019 05: 13
      Yeah! Has consumption decreased? Do not rush my sandals.

      Not only that ... yesterday they drove a series about bandits and traitors ... the head of the criminal investigation department and the KGB officer ... in each series they drank worse than any drunkards on holidays ... propaganda of drinking alcohol among officials is obvious ... let's take films about modern police ... so there in every department and table you can find a battery of bottles of vodka, whiskey, cognac ... you might think the whole police at work go to work only after taking a bottle of strong whiskey.
      1. +4
        7 October 2019 05: 55
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        . Yesterday they drove a series about bandits and traitors ... the head of the criminal investigation department and the KGB officer ... in each series they drank worse than any drunkards on holidays.

        TV is evil! especially NTV and federal channels. if you look, it’s better to ren TV. wassat
        1. +4
          7 October 2019 06: 46
          And here I completely agree. I do not watch TV. From the word at all.
          1. +5
            7 October 2019 09: 32
            And why? Dozens of non-political, educational channels. Plus, purely news, both Russian and foreign (you don't like our "propaganda", you can watch foreign ones). And if you watch a channel not on a TV box, but on a computer, it's still watching TV. One thing doesn't bother me. I am sitting at home at my computer and the TV is working. A movie or a concert is in any case more convenient to watch on a large-screen TV. Recently, on the contrary, TV has become more appreciated, admiration for the Internet as a source of news has long passed. After all, news on the Internet is most often the messages of news agencies, TV channels and print media, in most cases with their own sites. Recently I even started listening to the radio. By the way, mostly via the Internet.)
      2. +6
        7 October 2019 10: 34
        This is all nonsense. The main thing is to warn about smoking scenes, but the fact that they drink, rape, kill brutally is now the norm
    2. +6
      7 October 2019 05: 54
      You are writing Oleg Chuvakin
      34 liters ... equivalent to about 340 half a liter of vodka. It's almost a bottle every day!

      -34 liter is EXACTLY equal to 68 half a liter ... it's ~ = bottle for 5.5 days
      —- it seems that the author doesn’t double what he sees, but according to the arithmetic result given, he is five-fold in his mind ..
      1. +7
        7 October 2019 06: 00
        smile Be lenient to man ... write an article on the struggle for sobriety in Russia is an ungrateful affair.
      2. +5
        7 October 2019 06: 04
        Quote: Michael Drabkin
        You are writing Oleg Chuvakin
        34 liters ... equivalent to about 340 half a liter of vodka. It's almost a bottle every day!

        -34 liter is EXACTLY equal to 68 half a liter ... it's ~ = bottle for 5.5 days
        —- it seems that the author doesn’t double what he sees, but according to the arithmetic result given, he is five-fold in his mind ..

        well, Oleg, took the day before (I do not mind, even for) .. so what? does not fit into statistics? typos happen to each other, it happens. and a "bubble" in 5.5 days ... well, it's like ... well, okay! bath, day off ... wink
        1. +1
          7 October 2019 07: 35
          Quote: Dead Day
          and a "bubble" in 5.5 days ... well, it's like ... well, okay! bath, day off ...

          In the bath, drinking alcohol is nowhere more harmful. So just do not live up to retirement ... laughing
          In general, the rejection of any positive in their own country touches. Someone, apparently, really likes to be pitied and despised. We will not respect ourselves, no one will respect outsiders ... "Domestic federal TV is evil, youth has failed, there are no victories" - Dedka Stary, maybe something is wrong with you, and not in the kingdom?
          1. 0
            7 October 2019 08: 24
            Quote: Den717
            - Grandfather Old, maybe this is something wrong with you yourself, and not in the kingdom

            transition to personality is a sign of defeat.
            1. +1
              7 October 2019 08: 47
              Quote: Dead Day
              transition to personality is a sign of defeat.

              In my writings there is not a hint of insult, and therefore claims about "personality" are clearly inappropriate. I expressed my disagreement and rejection of your point of view, yes. But nothing more. You have no grounds for claims.
            2. -3
              7 October 2019 10: 24
              Quote: Dead Day
              Quote: Den717
              - Grandfather Old, maybe this is something wrong with you yourself, and not in the kingdom

              transition to personality is a sign of defeat.

              No, seriously, where do you live, with whom do you communicate? Around only rubble debris and drunks! Maybe your environment is not very?
          2. -2
            7 October 2019 09: 00
            Quote: Den717
            In general, the rejection of any positive in their own country touches. Someone, apparently, really likes to be pitied and despised. We will not respect ourselves, no one will respect outsiders ... "Domestic federal TV is evil, youth has failed, there are no victories" - Dedka Stary, maybe something is wrong with you, and not in the kingdom?
            Reply
            Quote

            but I am touched by "gloryaputenu" and "fseokharasho" ... you probably like it. when you are around .... and you are safe ... right?
            1. +4
              7 October 2019 09: 19
              Quote: Dead Day
              but I am touched by "gloryaputenu" and "fseokharasho" ... you probably like it. when you are around .... and you are safe ... right?

              I don’t shout glory to Putin, but everything around me is just as good as I can do myself well. I live in the same world as you. I also go to work and to ordinary shops, the children went to an ordinary school without any lyceums and governors. And I live in an ordinary house, so I have safety. average in Russia. And I'm 3000 km to Moscow. But I do not "wander" around. The fact that the current state of my life does not coincide with the desired one, I consider it to be normal, because this difference stimulates me to further "growth above myself." This is what drives human progress. It just seems to me that we need to understand that our life is what we think about it, that it is time to understand that its level largely depends on ourselves. And by virtue of my age, I have long since moved away from categorical assessments, because "fseharasho" cannot be by definition, just like "fsёpolot". In general, if you like the state of depression, then there are no complaints, live in your depression, you have the right ...
            2. -7
              7 October 2019 14: 43
              Grandpa, with age it’s okay "they deceive everything, Putin is evil, they take away their pension, and the grandmother does not give it." No need to trap this whining at all. She's got it.
        2. +3
          7 October 2019 07: 52
          Well. 68 half a liter of PURE alcohol, and how much vodka?
      3. +3
        7 October 2019 07: 57
        pure lacogol transfer to vodka will be 170 bottles
      4. +2
        7 October 2019 08: 44
        34 liters of pure alcohol. 1l about 5 bottles of vodka. Not 340 of course, but not 68.
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    3. -9
      7 October 2019 06: 54
      WoWser, do you pee? Daughter? No officer found
      1. -6
        7 October 2019 08: 25
        Quote: besik
        pure lacogol transfer to vodka will be 170 bottles

        Comrade Bezik. do you have tremor? feel
      2. +1
        8 October 2019 01: 04
        I do not understand your misunderstanding. Write in Russian.
    4. +2
      7 October 2019 12: 14
      what are you?) I don’t know about the availability of such places and have not even heard of it. moreover, you can’t even buy a ditifrichnaya to order. I have a friend who drank Japanese whiskey for many years and now can’t get it.
  3. +13
    7 October 2019 04: 55
    For myself and my loved ones I can say that they have started drinking less. All serious men understand that drinking down the problems, of which there are always enough, cannot be solved. Another thing is when there is a reason, good or, alas, bad - preference is always given to "natural products" - moonshine or own liqueurs / wine. Because those "slops" that are not trusted in the store - vodka on Chinese alcohol from shit, powdered wine, "chemical" cocktails, beer drinks with hops. I don’t touch the segment of expensive premium drinks - not everyone can afford them for a long time.
    1. +16
      7 October 2019 05: 13
      Seriously, less drunk. In production, they practically do not drink.
      Natural screenings have passed. Who is not there, and the rest are holding on to work.
      1. +5
        7 October 2019 05: 38
        If earlier they drunk themselves intoxicated for years, now the road to the cemetery has become much shorter, near the alcohol points already disadvantaged young people are dying. They also eat "salt" and use other chemistry to "stick to".
        1. +10
          7 October 2019 05: 55
          Quote: lexus
          If earlier they drunk themselves intoxicated for years, now the road to the cemetery has become much shorter, near the alcohol points already disadvantaged young people are dying. They also eat "salt" and use other chemistry to "stick to".


          Both comments Lexus support. hi "Only Cornflowers, but Camomiles ..." retreat into another world. The work limits the "drinking appetite", in the stores there is continuous "chemistry", the offer of moonshine still did not arise from scratch, there were many more terrible things than vodka.
          1. 0
            7 October 2019 07: 04
            Quote: lexus
            If earlier they drunk themselves intoxicated for years, now the road to the cemetery has become much shorter, near the alcohol points already disadvantaged young people are dying. They also eat "salt" and use other chemistry to "stick to".

            a cemetery (unfortunately I often visit, relatives and friends leave, and I can see them too) and so, the dates of birth are shocking, it's not the old people who die, but strong men by definition, well, they shouldn't die at 30-45 years old, they just shouldn't , they keep the family ... and they hold the cross. not okay in the "kingdom".
            1. 0
              7 October 2019 17: 50
              Less thump, live longer. And do not forget that in one gram of beer - 7 kilocalories.
        2. +9
          7 October 2019 07: 23
          Quote: lexus
          They also eat "salt" and use other chemistry to "stick to".

          The same \ next dropout occurs.
          But it’s significant, so where the service workers WORK, even gypsies are afraid to get in touch with drugs!
          Very illustrative examples before my eyes .... and with moonshine, too, in different ways! Again, how servants work! There IS a relatively cheap swill in stores! They use it .... but already quietly and not on playgrounds. Children LESS see such still lifes, this is gratifying.
          However, the substitution that is all rubbish from the Internet, we still come around !!!
          In short, whoever is looking for "dirt" will always find ....
    2. +1
      7 October 2019 07: 21
      Quote: lexus
      what to drink less.

      Here they began to drink less and the population began to decline, the birth rate fell, mortality increased .. sarcasm of course .. or a coincidence?
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  4. 0
    7 October 2019 05: 15
    Due to the increase in prices, sorry, the continuous increase in prices for vodka, people again switched to the consumption of everything that has at least some degree available, can burn, or burn inside, depending on what is drunk. Therefore, again and more often in the country, people die from mass poisoning by substitutes based on technical methyl alcohol. ..
    1. -2
      7 October 2019 09: 48
      A self-respecting person will not drink surrogates, let's start with this. So - natural selection. And yes - the pig will find dirt.
      1. +7
        7 October 2019 14: 06
        Do not flatter yourself, alcohol in a store can easily turn out to be a surrogate. Moreover, even in a large retail chain.
        1. 0
          7 October 2019 14: 10
          Well, you can get poisoned with your own, if you can't stand the technology. I'm talking about vodka "for 100 rubles", about "cognac" from a canister, about various household products and funfiriki. A normal person who has not found health in the garbage will not use it.
  5. +13
    7 October 2019 05: 20
    "WHO experts hope that the authorities in Russia will take further steps. For example, they will raise the age minimum for purchasing alcohol to 21 years."

    Yeah, with us since 18 years old give a gun in the hands.
    Imagine, there’s already some contractor who may already have been in Syria, and he was in the store:
    - How old are you? Only 20 years old? Come on in, boy, not supposed to! I will not let go! laughing

    And they really began to drink less, not fashionable or something ..
    1. +9
      7 October 2019 08: 04
      it’s not about modestly once. Either plump, or live like a person. With three children I will choose the latter. hi
    2. 0
      7 October 2019 09: 18
      Quote: wt100
      Imagine, there’s already some contractor who may already have been in Syria, and he was in the store:
      - How old are you? Only 20 years old? Come on in, boy, not supposed to! I will not let go!

      Yes there is. Not only in the Russian Federation.
      Laws are made so that you can hold weapons, you can kill people from 18. But alcohol and sexual relations are (officially) prohibited.
      These are modern societies. You get the right to vote, the right to kill earlier than the opportunity to buy alcohol.
      And as for the rest of the countries, I don’t know how in the Russian Federation, but in the USA they may not sell alcohol to an old man without documents sometimes. Although he is hardly less than 22. But you never know ... suddenly made up. laughing
      Although Americans rarely come across without a driver’s license, but in the same case. Often times.
  6. +7
    7 October 2019 05: 31
    stop

    This is, circled in a circle, a friend of Nemtsov, who was killed, but "this" survived, even received the title of Hero of Russia for something ... But what can we expect from ...
    This is now an indication to remind about this individual, whom Russia remembers as:
    For the first time in Russian history, Prime Minister Kiriyenko defaulted - a moratorium (temporary refusal) to pay debts. This measure affected both sovereign and private debt. Russian private borrowers were allowed not to pay debts to foreign creditors for 90 days. Kiriyenko himself subsequently admitted that “he made a bad decision, but only in order to avoid the worst” [14].
    On August 16, Sunday, Kiriyenko notified President Yeltsin that the government was taking responsibility for what had happened and was ready to resign. Then Yeltsin considered the dismissal of the Kiriyenko’s cabinet premature and suggested that he continue his work. The next day, on Monday, August 17, 1998, a default was publicly announced in Russia, the ruble rate collapsed almost 3 times, and by October 1 it had fallen to 16 rubles per dollar. The panic among the population began, people rushed en masse to take deposits from banks, and then to exchange offices - buy up hard currency for all remaining cash rubles. Banks could not return deposits to everyone, and even at the same time. Exchange offices began to close due to lack of currency. Mass dismissals began at enterprises and organizations, since there was nothing to pay salaries. As Kiriyenko later admitted, making a decision on default, he and his government colleagues did not foresee that the psychological blow to the population would be so devastating that such a panic would spread in society [14] [15] [16].
    On Friday, August 21, 1998, all fractions of the State Duma jointly and severally adopted a resolution on no confidence in the government and demanded the resignation of Prime Minister Kiriyenko. On Sunday morning, August 23, Yeltsin called in Kiriyenko and announced his resignation ...

    Everything would be fine, but just do not believe in this unrestrained mind, who in his youth managed to crawl into the government, "shit" there with his presence, "slip away for a while from the political arena, collect the Union of Right Forces (Union of Right Forces), pushing Beria to create a zero nuclear energy, get a Hero (most likely the GKO theme is present in this) and again become a mentor to Russian youth and be present with a shining "shabby little head" and shameless eyes at various public events ...
    What the hell is this son of Israel for us?
    What opportunities does he (can) prepare in the future? belay
    1. +7
      7 October 2019 05: 38
      The next day, on Monday, August 17, 1998, a default was publicly announced in Russia, the ruble rate collapsed almost 3 times, and by October 1 it had fallen to 16 rubles per dollar.

      I remember this day well ... in smile Once again, the government threw their people moving the arrows to the switchman ...
      Kiriyenko is guilty only of playing by the rules of crooks and misleading the people himself ... there will be no trust in him under any circumstances ... once he deceived, the second time he won’t give a ride.
      1. +6
        7 October 2019 06: 46
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Kiriyenko is only to blame for playing by the rules of crooks and misleading the people themselves ...

        And I do not believe in such accidents (listed above). I can't believe that this particular "worthless" was awarded (for what merits?) And called to the court quite by accident ... Yes, with such a biography, the director of the china shop was not appointed further ...
        That is why we are all the time in the backyard, that at the "right" moment we come across (for some reason ???) not Lomonosovs or Kapitsa, but Kirienko and Matvienki (in taste and color) ...
        I can’t recognize the Russian heritage in him, even if he is ritualized in a kokoshnik ... There is nothing prestigious for the country for his work ...
        1. +3
          7 October 2019 07: 56
          he is just a performer, as they said he did.
      2. -1
        7 October 2019 12: 37
        Yes, his government was physically unable to solve something in that situation in 5 months. with such a hole in the budget, what could they do? he was appointed a lightning rod and the last one to make it only clear to children is not clear. I once studied that crisis and the only one who tried to do anything at that time was Kiriyenko, appreciate the irony) the one who is called guilty of default was the only one avoid it) but even in theory it was unrealistic. sorry, but his current job is effective. Rosatom is stronger and stronger every year.
    2. +1
      7 October 2019 17: 53
      "He even received the title of Hero of Russia for something ... But what can we expect from ..." - And he deservedly got it. Rosatom rose well under him.
  7. +9
    7 October 2019 05: 33
    Yes, I’m somehow indifferent to alcohol in general, rarely, in good company, I can be a little strong, but it happens a couple of times a year :)
    and I haven’t been drinking beer since 2013;
    as they say, there is enough of its stupidity, alcohol is not needed for this :)
  8. +9
    7 October 2019 05: 37
    We must not forget about the lessons of the anti-alcohol campaign, which was conducted in the USSR under the leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev in the 80's.

    You can’t remember without laughter.
    In our city (one of the regional centers of the Ukrainian SSR), which had its own distillery, they thought of selling vodka in three-liter jars into which juices were poured. But the sticker was from vodka.
    This is how it looked.

    The logic was as follows - if you figure it out for three, then the men will not take it, a lot. And who needs a wedding, just right.
    Such cans of vodka were not sold for long, their people simply did not take it, Gorbachev quietly cursing.
    Then sugar disappeared from free sale, they say, there’s nothing to drive home-brew - in response, people began to buy cheap lollipops (twice as much as sugar), then the product came out of them flavored, it was given to sweets.
    We also had on sale non-alcoholic beer, so-called. "beer".
    1. +3
      7 October 2019 05: 48
      Gorbachev secretly cursing.

      There is a reason ... our people foolishly cost his stupidity ... the people began to swiftly make out of all muck ... even a tomato ... a man will drink this muck and swell ... it was scary to watch.
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 05: 56
        In Soviet times, in each region there were several distilleries that produced CEREAL alcohol. Then it became potato, then woody ... oil. Now I don’t remember a single distillery preserved in the Central Federal District.
        1. +1
          7 October 2019 12: 14
          In Novgorod, in Soviet times, we had one such distillery. They didn’t even hide it, it was written on the bottles: timber industry complex. Apparently made of grain.
    2. +3
      7 October 2019 06: 00
      Quote: Comrade
      We must not forget about the lessons of the anti-alcohol campaign, which was conducted in the USSR under the leadership of Mikhail Gorbachev in the 80's.

      You can’t remember without laughter.
      In our city (one of the regional centers of the Ukrainian SSR), which had its own distillery, they thought of selling vodka in three-liter jars into which juices were poured. But the sticker was from vodka.
      This is how it looked.

      The logic was as follows - if you figure it out for three, then the men will not take it, a lot. And who needs a wedding, just right.
      Such cans of vodka were not sold for long, their people simply did not take it, Gorbachev quietly cursing.
      Then sugar disappeared from free sale, they say, there’s nothing to drive home-brew - in response, people began to buy cheap lollipops (twice as much as sugar), then the product came out of them flavored, it was given to sweets.
      We also had on sale non-alcoholic beer, so-called. "beer".


      I can imagine how your picture is being replicated in the West with the title "Russian Coca-Cola". laughing
      1. +3
        7 October 2019 11: 08
        One sailor told me that since it is forbidden to bring alcohol on board, in such cans they brought "canned cucumbers" onto the ship, only they (cucumbers) swam not in brine, but in tinted "u-pi" alcohol. wink
    3. +1
      7 October 2019 12: 41
      the logic was different. there was no container in the right quantity and the production of juices collapsed severely. and they had a lot of containers.
    4. +5
      7 October 2019 14: 47
      Quote: Comrade
      You can’t remember without laughter.

      Quote: Comrade
      We also had for sale non alcoholic beer

      I have a WEDDING ...non alcoholic was. Yes This is exactly without laughter you will not remember ...... lol
      But only fellow officers were 11 people.

      Of tea leaves poured "tea" into glasses under the strict eye of the political officer ...
      1. +4
        7 October 2019 21: 05
        Quote: Olgovich
        "Tea" was poured from teapots into glasses under the strict eye of the political officer

        Invokes another - without a political booze, with a political - an event.
  9. 0
    7 October 2019 05: 47
    All is well, beautiful marquise
    Things are going and life is easy
    None, sad surprise
    With the exception of a trifle
    So nonsense, empty case, your mare is numb
    And the rest, beautiful marquise
    All is well, all is well
    (L.Utesov)
  10. -2
    7 October 2019 06: 04
    Yeah ... In terms of sales of sugar and yeast, look and understand that the Russians even switched to craft whiskey ... not that there are all kinds of Germans and naglitsy there ..
  11. -4
    7 October 2019 06: 13
    losers and loafers drink, I can skip a cup too, but there is no desire to do this, after work and on the weekend you can spend more worthy time than turning into a pig ... yes and I prefer good vodka than moonshine, as if some saliva expired, no moonshine will never be cleaned of sivuhi by home remedies
    1. +1
      7 October 2019 08: 45
      I prefer good vodka over moonshine swill, as if some saliva didn’t run out, no moonshine can ever be cleaned from sivuha by home remedies

      Too good cleaning and there is a major drawback of vodka. The body takes the product of distillation - purified poison and can not fight it. And moonshine is a product of distillation. Yes, it is cleared worse, but the body fights it. As a result, vodka gets drunk much faster, unlike moonshine.
      1. +1
        7 October 2019 17: 04
        the fact that pure alcohol is excreted worse from the body, I know when I studied at the institute, I studied there, and not for the sake of a tick I visited a couple ... therefore, add sorbents to good vodka
    2. +3
      7 October 2019 09: 59
      You correctly wrote about losers and weakly free. But about moonshine-are wrong. A correctly made product is superior to a store product. But driving is an art. And whiskey-rum-tequila and other gins and brandies, these are distillates, not rectifications.
    3. +1
      7 October 2019 10: 37
      The basis of vodka is alcohol. Pure alcohol! And it doesn’t matter what this alcohol is made of. It can be made from grain, potatoes, oil, etc. Well, everything else is water and additives. But chemically verify what alcohol is simply impossible.
      1. +1
        7 October 2019 14: 04
        That's right. Alcohol rectified is a synthetic product that has its own chemical formula.
    4. +1
      7 October 2019 14: 52
      Fans of "oblique snout" are replacing now. I plus. It's easier to plump and whine how bad everything is. Give me at least one example from life when, all of a sudden, "once", stopped drinking and "all my life for a smarmy" ..
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 17: 08
        I can’t give such examples, I limit the circle of friends to people without addictions such as alcoholism or drug addiction, so there’s nobody to watch ... but what lovers turn into to miss a glass ...
        1. -1
          7 October 2019 17: 56
          So I'm talking about that.
  12. +6
    7 October 2019 06: 13
    Wiser, stopped drinking the chemistry that they sell in alcohol stores ... But when we stop eating the chemistry that they sell in stores ....
  13. 3vs
    -7
    7 October 2019 06: 16
    Let's look at comrade Putin! Yes
    By the way, today is his birthday, 67, this is not for you males! drinks

    Drunkenness fight, we drink it before the fight!
    1. -4
      7 October 2019 07: 00
      Let's look at comrade Putin!
      By the way, today is his birthday, 67, this is not for you

      Since he is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Russia, I join in the congratulations and wish him success in developing and raising our army to the proper height.
      All the same, the Army and Navy of Russia have always been the pillar of our state and the last hope was only on them and our people.
      1. 3vs
        -3
        7 October 2019 07: 18
        I join in the congratulations and wish him success in developing and raising our army to the proper height.

        So the comrades support. Yes
      2. 0
        7 October 2019 09: 21
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I wish him success in developing and raising our army to the proper height.

        And I wish him a song to listen to.
  14. +2
    7 October 2019 07: 14
    So ladies and gentlemen, times are changing. It’s time for the Germans to learn from Russian sobriety, the French too, but in the Middle East the leader has changed, and he is also Russian. Russians also take care of the climate on the planet, earthworms and birds.

    Very article on sarcasm is similar .. veiled. Putin, he cares about everything .. only from care his Russian people begin to die out ..
    1. +2
      7 October 2019 10: 04
      Does Putin solder you? Is it straight so violently through a funnel into the throat? Wow, what a nasty Putin!
      1. +3
        7 October 2019 10: 18
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Does Putin solder you? Is it straight so violently through a funnel into the throat? Wow, what a nasty Putin!

        What are you, what are you ... Putin has nothing to do with it. He’s so diving for an amphora .. fly with Siberian Cranes, but in the places of the scum, the boyars created conditions under which the population is dying for some reason. And they all quit drinking and smoking, and medicine at the level and in the economy is a breakthrough .. and the life span has increased, the Russian pensioner will become immortal ... everything is very positive, only for unknown reasons the Russian population is declining .. oh yes, the reason is WWII and the 90s .. maybe the reason lies even deeper? Maybe the problem with demography under Ivan the Terrible began?
        1. +3
          7 October 2019 10: 36
          And why in Europe the birth rate is lower than the plinth? Also a war and the 90s? And there is no swearing Putin there, and God grant everyone the social sphere. Be fruitful and multiply. However, they do not want to. Not willing, even crack. And Nigeria and Gabon breed like rabbits. Without benefits, medicine and other state aid. Fertility, it has nothing to do with either the financial situation (our rich also have few children), or with the help of the state.
          1. +3
            7 October 2019 10: 48
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            And why in Europe the birth rate is lower than the plinth? Also a war and the 90s?

            But why did it (birth rate) grow in Russia, as long as the oil price remained high and there was relative stability? And especially when the capital was added mat .. Putin also reported that his idea worked .. (by the way, at that time there really was a good idea) Can the birth rate still be connected with the financial situation? To give birth to children, there must be several factors:
            -Confidence in the future
            -Adequate income to feed and raise children
            -Availability of living space
            -Motivation of the state
            The main thing, of course, is confidence in the future .. but against the backdrop of the fact that the state plans to make medicine completely paid. (Skvortsova said the other day) deprived of pensions, cuts down budget places in universities, in general, completely gets rid of social responsibility .. of course not will ..
            1. +3
              7 October 2019 11: 00
              There was no high birth rate either in the 80s, or in the 90s, or in the zero ones. Then the rule works - the more prosperous the person, the higher his education, the less children he has. Even on the example of my family: my dad and mom had five, we lived in poverty, I have three children, I also did not go out in the 90s, although I did not live in poverty. My children — they are about 30, haven’t gotten kids and don’t really want to, although they have everything: housing and money and business are booming. But they do not want a point. Priorities are different. The mentality too.
              1. +1
                7 October 2019 11: 06
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                My children — they are about 30, haven’t gotten kids and don’t really want to, although they have everything: housing and money and business are booming. But they do not want a point. Priorities are different. The mentality too.

                Parenting also plays a small role .. society has become selfish, capitalism is like that .. I have three children and one grandson .. I did my best for my part to increase the population, so to speak, not in words, but in practice .. And you in fact, it’s not patriotic ..
                1. +4
                  7 October 2019 11: 23
                  Yes, a consumer society, female emancipation, a departure from religion. Look at the Muslims: the more radical Islam in the country, the higher the birth rate. My friend is a village father, six children, two of them are foster children. He is truly a believer; for him, children are a gift of God. And the young now between the clothes and the child will choose the first.
                  1. +3
                    7 October 2019 19: 17
                    I've also been pondering this paradox for a long time. The lower the level of emancipation in society, the higher the birth rate. Muslim customs are only a more obvious indicator. And in the most developed countries this is clearly visible. A modern madam of the "emancipé" style, fashionably dressed in a new typewriter, living in a stylish house with a dog, does not need anyone in FIG. Cook soups, wash socks, pocket the children with porridge .... Not for any rugs. These creatures do not even understand that a man designed a car for her, and built a house where this creature lives, built factories where clothes are printed for her. Albeit indirectly. Then think about the dark energy "yin" not balanced by "yang". Like a reactor on the run ..
          2. 0
            7 October 2019 19: 26
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Gabon breed like rabbits.

            And what is the climate in Gabon? He built a bamboo hut and go in his underpants all year round.
        2. -3
          7 October 2019 15: 26
          And you yourself did not try to knock with a hoof for the sake of wealth and well-being? You Putin should put on a plate of babosiki from the morning? So that you pat him on the shoulder and say, “Well, brother Putin, how are you doing today?
      2. -2
        7 October 2019 15: 14
        There is a "cognitive" paradox ... There are two main options. The first "Putinzlo" deprives ordinary people of the last joy in life and the mafia. "The second" Putinzlo "made everyone drunk making booze available.
        1. -2
          7 October 2019 15: 20
          Many tend to look for the root of their problems in anyone, just not in themselves. It is much simpler and more understandable. I got drunk - it’s not me who bought vodka, this is life, power, wife, Putin, the boss (underline as appropriate) are to blame. And I'm white and fluffy.
    2. +1
      7 October 2019 18: 06
      Quote: Svarog
      Putin he cares about everything .. only from care his people Russians are beginning to die out ..

      They continue, our dear, continue ... They began to die out at EBN ...
      1. +2
        7 October 2019 18: 34
        Quote: ROSS 42
        They continue, our dear, continue ... They began to die out at EBN ...

        So he and the successor of EBN, even he shook off a monument to him ... and in social terms he also surpassed Yeltsin ..
  15. 0
    7 October 2019 07: 19
    [quote = Mikhail Drabkin] You are writing Oleg Chuvakin
    [Quote]34 liters ... equivalent to about 340 half a liter of vodka. It's almost a bottle every day![/ Quote]
    -34 liter is EXACTLY equal to 68 half a liter ... it's ~ = bottle for 5.5 days
    —- it seems that the author is not something that doubles in his eyes, but according to the arithmetic result given, he is fooling around in his mind .. [/
    34 liters of pure alcohol: this is 100% alcohol, not 40%. Dilute and you will no longer have 68 half a liter.
    1. +3
      7 October 2019 09: 22
      It looks like you have a math problem too. From a liter of alcohol, approximately 5 half liters are obtained, and not two. A liter of alcohol, one and a half water - almost 40% (39, to be more precise). 2,5 liters - five bottles.
    2. -2
      7 October 2019 10: 57
      it seems that the author
      It looks like you, the author, skipped math at school, at least in the 6th grade.
      From 1000 ml of pure alcohol, five half-liter bottles of vodka with a strength of 40 vol.% Will be obtained, since 500 ml of vodka of the indicated alcohol strength is 200 ml. Thus, from 34 liters of absolute alcohol, 34 x 5 = 170 half-liter bottles or 233 ml per day are obtained, which corresponds to about a glass.
  16. +2
    7 October 2019 07: 34
    Not so long ago, there were "junkies" at the shops, they were shooting money to improve the body! Now they DO NOT WORK, because many simply do not have cash ... and this is in the village.
    A merry harmonist happens regularly .... plays, not so much, but sincerely! from the bottom of my heart, I’m going to an ATM, taking off my cash and .... yes, he played and the people were HAPPY!
  17. +7
    7 October 2019 08: 25
    That Putin will create a fair pension system (and not so that he worked as a man and a wooden mac), then I can think about what is written in this ode laudatory. And so far this is a simple fraud, as they said before.
  18. +3
    7 October 2019 08: 49
    Alcohol is the drug of the poor. Tie up guys! Read books better.

    And what to drink with us has become less and live longer - a lie.
  19. -2
    7 October 2019 09: 01
    Many questions arise in counting. Moonshine rushing? In Germany, it’s somehow not very customary to drive him, which can’t be said about the Russian expanses.
    Again, surrogates, and all other home-diluted alcohol.
    Another issue is the structure of consumption.
    10-15 liters per year per person is not very much.
    And among the French and Italians, and even among the Czechs and Germans, wine and beer go through the division of foodstuffs rather than alcoholic drinks, so consumption is really average. Drink for dinner, as one of the dishes.
    But the situation changes dramatically if four out of ten drink, but if they drink, they drink like that.
    And the reality of 150 liters for ten, 120 for four, and 30 for the remaining six people.
    So it turns out that the majority hardly drinks, and there are plenty of drunks.
    Average consumption - it makes sense if it is really average.
    The French have it .....
    1. -3
      7 October 2019 09: 30
      Quote: Avior
      Many questions arise in counting

      Well, WHO considers ethyl alcohol per capita. Official to official. (That is, provided by state bodies)
      Subtracts tourists. But he does not consider Russian tourists abroad (according to Russian statistics, they drink more).
      The Russian technique is a bit wider.
      Since Russia has a negative tourist balance (more travelers leave the country than enter it), the result will be added to the estimated alcohol consumption in the country, that is, it will increase the figure, the Ministry of Health explained.
      Not only on holidays: Russians began to drink alcohol more often
      Most of all, the number of those who drink once or twice a month has increased.
      How many illegal drinks are consumed by Russians, officials will calculate on the basis of mortality rates from alcohol poisoning and the incidence of alcoholic psychoses. Based on these data, they will calculate the corresponding level of consumption, and then subtract legal sales from it. In other ways, it is impossible to calculate the shadow consumption of alcohol, because the bulk of illegal alcohol in Russia does not contain hazardous impurities, toxicological studies show, the Ministry of Health specified.

      By the way, the news of May 30.
      And something contradicts the article in it. Maybe for six months, of course, the methodology was changed ...
      Russians began to drink more often: the number of those who drink alcohol once or twice a month has increased over the past five years from 24,9% to 32%. This was reported to Izvestia in Rosstat. There are more citizens drinking once a week, but the number of those who allow themselves alcohol only on holidays is declining. According to experts, alcohol sales are growing, which means that the prohibition measures in force in the country are no longer so effective.
      an increase in legal sales of alcohol starting in 2018, while the sales of hard liquor in retail increased, and there was a slight decrease in catering, ”he emphasized.
      According to Rosalkogolregulirovanie for the I quarter of 2019, sales of alcoholic beverages (without beer, cider, poire and mead) in retail and catering increased by 2% ^ to 49,7 million decalitres.

      but officials still explain
      However, according to the statistics of the Ministry of Health for 2018, alcohol consumption per capita is reduced annually. Last year, it amounted to 9,3 liters in terms of ethanol, which is half as much as in 2011. Back in 2004, the figure was 20,3 liters per person. The department previously explained to Izvestia that the reduction in consumption occurs also due to a decrease in the volume of illegal drinks. That is why there was no contradiction in the fact that legal sales are growing, and alcohol consumption per capita is declining.
    2. +1
      7 October 2019 18: 01
      "10-15 liters per person per year is not a lot." There are those who a day and three liters of the same "Not very much".
  20. +2
    7 October 2019 09: 03
    Alcohol (alcohol) is a drug that slowly kills a drinker. Remember, once upon a glass of vodka in the trash were, and now a little liter ...




    All alcohol sold, from alcohol to beer, is practically owned by foreign bourgeois. They receive money from the proceeds, and sores, ruts, ruined families, orphans remain with us ... With the proceeds from the sale of alcohol, they contain our fifth column ... Each cigarette smoked, each drunk glass is a shell flying into ours trenches, in our children, in our future.



    Alcohol, tobacco, etc. drugs belong to the weapons of genocide.
    1. +1
      7 October 2019 09: 50
      Quote: Boris55
      Alcohol, tobacco, etc. drugs belong to the weapons of genocide.

      in fact, addiction to alcohol is characteristic of Europe / Asia, where the necessary products grew. But the distribution of alcohol in those countries where it has not been tried for centuries (the body has not adapted to this poison) is deplorable. But alcohol has saved Europeans more than once (for example, from unsanitary conditions in water)
      Yes, it is most pronounced in North America, but on the territory of Russia in the north, the traditional pathogens of the emotional sphere (alcohol, hallucinogens, smoking, etc.) were mushrooms.
      Of banned, but no alcohol. And alcohol for the same northern peoples is pure poison. The same situation happened with the Indians of America. (North, for the Aztecs drank pulke, and the Incas drove from corn and cassava)
      without alcohol is also impossible. Although, for example, I do not drink, I am entertaining the emotional sphere with computer games.
      In the world, this, by the way, allows you to reduce alcohol consumption (and sexual intercourse, too, therefore, computer technology "kills" cravings for problems with the opposite sex)
      Humanity cannot live without entertaining the emotional sphere. Alcohol, women, games, mushrooms, drugs, dope, smoking .. extreme sports, gambling ..
      About "they began to drink less." Can be compared to Japan. They only work there. God forbid officials will follow the Japanese experience (work more, rest less, but they will not pay in Japanese)
      In Muslims, statistics are generally low wink
      Depending on the calculation method, you can get the necessary data.
      I didn’t understand one thing.
      This illiterate phrase
      Will people be comfortable living on a planet lined with a picket fence of windmills and covered with several layers of solar panels? How many birds die due to windmills! They shake so much that worms crawl out of the ground

      issued as
      Russians also take care of the climate on the planet, earthworms and birds.

      I understand that he heard something about the vibration of the wind farm. But so to formulate ...
      It's funny, but the birds die much more from stations of past technologies. But it is.
      In general, an article about "victories". The point of disassembling it is ... just hurray to say.
      Because if you disassemble then questions are everywhere.
      1. +1
        7 October 2019 15: 34
        Quote: Antares
        It's funny, but the birds die much more from stations of past technologies.

        Is this some kind of joke humor? Since when have subway trains come out of the ground from stations with reactors? The colossal costs of producing "green" energy are the reason for their inefficiency both in the present and in the future. "So that your whole house lives on solar energy." This is a new curse.
    2. +4
      7 October 2019 11: 02
      Quote: Boris55
      They receive money from the proceeds, and sores, ruts, ruined families, orphans remain with us ... With the proceeds from the sale of alcohol, they contain our fifth column ... Each cigarette smoked, each glass drunk is a projectile flying into our trenches, in our children, in our future.

      Damn, that’s why, for every problem, always plot the West’s conspiracy against the great Russian civilization ???
      You go to Turkey and see how shells famously fly into German mouths, so that they fall like pigs into pools. Not ours, but Germans. And the shaves are also dashingly thrown there. Whose conspiracy is it?
      1. +3
        7 October 2019 11: 07
        Quote: Alex_59
        Damn, that’s why, for every problem, always plot the West’s conspiracy against the great Russian civilization ???

        What does the plot have to do with it? Humpbacked with Yeltsin surrendered the country to the West. The West, through its companies, has penetrated into all spheres of our life. Do you really think that they came to us to equip our lives for us, and the fact that they pump all the juices out of us is a fairy tale?
        1. +3
          7 October 2019 11: 18
          Quote: Boris55
          Do you really think that they have come to us to arrange our life for us, and the fact that they pump all the juices out of us is a fairy tale?
          As applied specifically to alcohol - in the countries of the West no less than our thumps. What kind of weapon of extermination of Russians is this, from which the attackers themselves suffer en masse? Imagine an assault rifle whose recoil during a shot is no less killer than a bullet? Sensible weapons?
    3. +1
      7 October 2019 15: 03
      Quote: Boris55
      Every smoked cigarette, every drunk glass - this shell flying into our trenches

      And under the USSR, where did this shell fly? lol
  21. -2
    7 October 2019 09: 14
    I rummaged through to illustrate the question, but is this precisely taken into account in consumption?
  22. 0
    7 October 2019 09: 17
    Some in Germany have obvious problems with chemistry and math. If 10 liters are made from a liter of alcohol, they will be a maximum of 20 degrees)
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  23. +4
    7 October 2019 09: 25
    I read the comments - opinions were divided. Someone thinks the article is true and "we are taking the train to the right place" © I agree with Dedka. When reading, I did not leave the feeling that the author was being ironic. After the increase in excise taxes, consumption simply went into the shadows. (Isn't this what the government was trying to achieve?) Moonshine and a surrogate are not taken into account. It is not taken into account how much vodka is shipped by the same factories without excise tax. Is beer counted and how is it counted? You go to work after the weekend and probably every fifth can or bottle. To say that nothing is being done? HZ. Yes, young people in the healthy part of it lean on sports, healthy lifestyle and so on. A sea of ​​YouTube channels, fitness bloggers. Just tell a skeptic, where is the state? And further. Big cities have prestigious areas with wealthy and prosperous residents. There you will see a picture akin to the one drawn in the article. Move into a sleeping bag - you will regret that you were born. You will have streets of broken lanterns and opera and drugs. Approximately as in sleeping bags, the situation is even worse in small towns and regional centers. Grandpa showed you the pictures. Most of Russia lives in small towns, where everything from medicine to the population is optimized. And, yes, they drink there. Not vodka for 300, but "the same" vodka for 100. Only they will not be included in the statistics. I'm afraid they won't get into life soon. At our enterprise, let's say the auxiliary workers puff up. Everyone sees it and everyone is happy with it. A sober person will not work for a minuscule amount, and dismiss - why would a person spoil his life? A neighbor in the village at his enterprise was forced to encode. Encoded - brought a certificate and continued to plump.
    1. +3
      7 October 2019 11: 17
      "Knowledgeable people" say that allegedly "the entire Caucasus" lives "by selling" fired vodka "... Yes
      1. +3
        7 October 2019 11: 41
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        the entire Caucasus "lives" on the sale of "burned vodka".

        HZ what's there and how. But he was so noddingly familiar with an Armenian (he lives permanently in Russia) who just carried vodka in his van without excise taxes. Palenque? No, not a surrogate. Just no excise taxes. They shove her into cafes and so on. For a year I "earned" money for an apartment and its repair, bought a jeep (not new). These are the realities. If caught - horror. And so ...
        1. +2
          7 October 2019 12: 02
          In fact, those "who are in the subject" remember well how, at one time, one "very well-known in narrow circles" "border guard" was removed from his post due to the fact that he did not pass alcohol caravans through one the "famous" gorge. wink
      2. -3
        7 October 2019 15: 35
        I even know to whom. You yourself are buying it. However, as you use it.
    2. +1
      7 October 2019 12: 19
      I live in a residential area of ​​St. Petersburg. For some reason, there are no streets of broken lanterns, no drunkards on the benches, no drugs, no gopot, as it was before. There are sports fields and youth on them. In my small Motherland, the picture is about the same: an active drunk has gone to another world - this is a natural selection, you can’t argue against Darwin, the rest use it very moderately.
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 13: 01
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        I live in a residential area of ​​St. Petersburg.

        So then the second capital ... Although, I admit, with the "sleeping bags" may have gone too far. Although in general ...
    3. +1
      7 October 2019 12: 52
      I live in a residential area. For a long time I have not seen anything of the kind described above. The bulk, the overwhelming majority of the people, prefers to buy alcohol all the same in large stores, and not from hucksters and grandmas from under the floor. Fiddling with moonshine at home is the same few people are interested. It’s easier to buy vodka at the store. But for the last time, people prefer to drive their own cars, rather than with a can in their hand after the weekend. .
      1. +1
        7 October 2019 13: 04
        Glad for your sleeping area. Personal vehicles are a good thing. Left after an accident without it for about a year I traveled on public. He, you will not believe, is breaking. Where, I think then, are all those that stand "in traffic jams from foreign cars" ... Well, I have presented my impressions. You disputed. I say there are different cities. Some can be called ghettos without sinning against the truth.
        1. -1
          7 October 2019 16: 27
          I don't know where you live, but the impression is that life in your city stopped somewhere in the 90s. In my city (regional center) the same picture described by comrade AS Ivanov from St. Petersburg. All Bukhariks have died in turn over the past 10-15 years. If only to remove the crowd of cars under the windows (somewhere under the ground) it would be absolutely good. I put the car in the garage and go to work by public transport. I did not notice that he was breaking. This is not the 70s and 80s, when the trolleybus was packed with so many people at rush hours that sometimes it was hard to breathe. But "traffic jams from foreign cars" are the scourge of modern cities. And practically all day long. And I have another question on this score: where do all these people go in the midst of working hours and where do they work in general? I have a shift schedule and I have to watch traffic jams at 11 o'clock on weekdays all the time.
          1. +1
            8 October 2019 09: 04
            What to say. You are right - froze. Once again, I am very happy for you. This is probably worth stopping the "discussion". She's about nothing. Everyone sees what he sees. And whose picture was more real - life will show. I would be glad to be wrong.
            1. +2
              8 October 2019 22: 20
              How about what. Recently I came from shift. On the way I went to "Bristol" and "KiB" for fun. Not a lot of visitors. The yard is empty. No drunks, no homeless people. There are practically no pedestrians either. But the number of passing cars is not much less than during the day. These are the realities that I see every day. I remember what happened in the "holy" 90s and what now. They actually drink less. I judge, including by my relatives and friends, when people come to various events with a feast "behind the wheel" while drinking soda and alcohol on the tables remains practically untouched, which was not the case before. I am grateful to you for your joy for me, but there are plenty of other problems. But I empathize with your city, although I don't know where it is. The impression is that we live in different countries.
              1. +2
                9 October 2019 08: 49
                Thank. There is no secret. Rybinsk city. Not the most depressing, although so many call it that. I will focus a little attention in the end and round off wink
                Quote: musketone64
                Such an impression - as if we live in different countries.

                Enough, I already wrote, just to live in different areas. Where expensive housing is eliminated by the lumpen proletariat and the picture changes significantly. By the way, about the "Bristols". I go, in 90% of cases at any time in front of the cashier of a person 3. There are many young people. Beer, cocktails. About drunks and homeless people. They "socialized" in our yard. The yard is allegedly being cleaned. Wipers. A bottle with an incomprehensible liquid is on a bench, work is in full swing ... But not Tajiks. They haven't reached us yet, apparently.
              2. 0
                10 October 2019 10: 28
                Quote: musketone64
                I am grateful to you for your joy for me, but there are enough other problems. But I empathize for your city, although I don’t know where it is. Such an impression - as if we live in different countries.

                Yes, Russia is great and everyone can be found in it. But the balance is changing in favor of the good. WHO has a methodology for calculating per capita consumption of alcohol, applied to all countries. It may be possible to argue about the number of accounted / unaccounted liters, but this applies to all countries.
  24. +4
    7 October 2019 09: 27
    The quality of vodka in stores is not much better than in the 90s. It is difficult to find a large, but really high-quality product. Therefore, people drive moonshine. If you make it right, then you will not want to drink vodka later. But, again, the cost of good moonshine is not much cheaper than vodka
    1. -3
      7 October 2019 12: 13
      The prime cost of refined moonshine (most of them get by unrefined, they just "insist" on something)) is actually determined mainly by the cost of refining it. For example, potassium permanganate, the best and fastest purifier at the initial stage, is almost impossible to purchase in the required quantities (due to the alleged "terrorist threat") and it has become unrealistically expensive - it is packed in literally milligrams in pharmacies. Plus, activated charcoal is not easy to obtain.
      1. -5
        7 October 2019 12: 33
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        For example, potassium permanganate is the best and fastest primary cleanser

        This is a legend. KMnO4 is a good oxidizing agent, no more. Why are you going to "cleanse" them there? fool

        Quote: Monster_Fat
        activated charcoal is not so easy to acquire

        And it never "just" happened. In pills, buddy ...

        And what do you, in the States, take for our moonshine? laughing
        1. -1
          7 October 2019 15: 41
          Nostalgia .. But what about? Will go to any "Walmart" buy "moonshine (moonshine) in jars like from under the jam and let's talk about us drunk drunkards drunk personally by Putin.
      2. +2
        7 October 2019 12: 52
        Sugar, yeast, electricity, gas, cleaning products, time ...
        PS. Minuses are not from me
    2. 0
      7 October 2019 12: 16
      Homemade cream, chacha, mulberry, calvados, cordial, this is the case. But this is by no means cheap. And I can’t stand the pure, classic moonshine, no matter how high-quality it is. There is still a nasty taste.)
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 12: 24
        Sergey ... let's be friends with families! I think it will be correct not Slivy but Slivovitsa! And the rest - Approved! drinks
        1. 0
          7 October 2019 12: 31
          Slivovica is, rather, the "correct" Serbian (Balkan) drink. And the plumyanka is so, local folk art.) The head is clear, and the legs are like cotton.) Although I am a consumer, not a producer.) I could be wrong. The producers are my relatives and friends.)
          1. 0
            7 October 2019 12: 45
            I am also a consumer laughing - therefore, he proposed to be friends with Families (since manufacturers are Relatives and Friends!) feel
      2. +2
        7 October 2019 12: 54
        By the way, pure moonshine has almost no aftertaste. And if it’s grain,
  25. -1
    7 October 2019 09: 35
    I would also prohibit the sale of alcohol in the general halls of supermarkets. Only in rooms with a separate entrance. As it was in Soviet stores. And now you go to the supermarket and right at the entrance and at the box office multi-colored bottles of alcohol for the action. And all this is in full view of the younger generation. stop
    1. 0
      7 October 2019 11: 46
      Alcoholism and alcoholism are a social evil. And excise taxes and other tricks can not defeat him.
      Quote: musketone64
      As it was in Soviet stores

      And in the Soviet Socialist Republic there were also LTPs ... There, a person was needed as a worker, etc. etc. and they fought for him at least in this way. Now we are interested in one as consumers, the other as the electorate, and someone as workers (it would be better if we had robots so that we weren’t and didn’t pay). As a result, NO ONE is interested in sobriety. A narcologist - codes for money, a realtor squeezes apartments from drunken citizens, producers and traders of booze - and there’s no need to talk.
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 12: 09
        LTP? They were more than useless, until the person himself wants to take any measures are powerless. But consumption is an interesting thing: if you want to consume more, give up the booze, which is now happening.
  26. +3
    7 October 2019 10: 32
    Regarding alcohol, I completely agree with the author of the article. If you look at how the English or Germans are fermenting somewhere in Spain, then ours will definitely be a model of sobriety.
    Or see how Korean white collars drink in the evening.
  27. -1
    7 October 2019 11: 02
    Yeah, they began to drink less ... Only in the mornings the earth is strewn with insulin syringes, both they died out and we die out. The author carries heresy. For what purpose?
    1. 0
      7 October 2019 12: 04
      Good morning! Syringes remained in the 90s. Previously, yes - all the lawns were dotted with them. But for about 15 years it’s not seen.
    2. +3
      7 October 2019 12: 17
      I did not notice scattered insulin syringes in my area.
  28. +2
    7 October 2019 11: 06
    According to a WHO report, adult Russians consume 11,7 liters of pure alcohol per capita. For comparison: the Germans consume 13,4 liters, the French consume 12,6 liters, the inhabitants of the United Kingdom consume 11,4 liters, and the Americans consume 9,8 liters.
    The question to the author of this optimistic wall newspaper, Chuvakin, is how the turnover of counterfeit alcohol, alcohol-containing drugs such as hawthorn, and various alcohol-containing household liquids are taken into account in these figures?
    1. +2
      7 October 2019 11: 37
      In fact, the author is actually "joking" (ironically) over "achievements". Yes And if on the merits:
      how are these figures taken into account the turnover of counterfeit alcohol, alcohol-containing drugs such as hawthorn and various alcohol-containing household liquids?

      That answer is this: it (turnover) is taken into account in the size (increase in size) of cemeteries. Yes
      1. -4
        7 October 2019 11: 42
        In fact, the author is actually "joking" (ironically) over "achievements".
        The author’s previous work raises serious doubts about irony.
    2. 0
      7 October 2019 16: 27
      Quote: Undecim
      how are these figures taken into account the turnover of counterfeit alcohol, alcohol-containing drugs such as hawthorn and various alcohol-containing household liquids?

      It doesn’t, but the question is, do you really think that in the USA, Germany, etc., etc., there is no underground turnover? And there statistics is 100% true?)
      1. +1
        7 October 2019 16: 52
        Do you really think that in Germany, singed schnapps is poured into cellars and transported to stalls? Or are tanks transporting alcohol across the border to clandestine distilleries?
        1. 0
          8 October 2019 18: 25
          Quote: Undecim
          Do you really think that in Germany, singed schnapps is poured into cellars and transported to stalls? Or are tanks transporting alcohol across the border to clandestine distilleries?

          Mmm, I wrote there above "ferries are being taken" in particular to Sweden from the Baltic states, for example ... So break your rose-colored glasses, statistics deception and unaccounted counterfeit are everywhere. However, you can not believe me) I am not an expert on this issue) I just expressed my opinion as a tourist, nothing more).
  29. +3
    7 October 2019 11: 37
    Duc ... not everyone likes the gradual sobering up of Russians! On YouTube, another video of one of the "lights" of the Russian opposition, Nikolai Bondarenko, was released ... (if I am not mistaken, then at the same time a member of the Communist Party ...) ... So he is very unhappy that the government is raising the price of alcohol. .. And here - "the intrigues of the Putin regime"! angry
  30. 9PA
    +2
    7 October 2019 12: 26
    Yeah ... talk sobering up. Statistics that take into account - legal alcohol past Egais. Those. statistics speak of urban dwellers, with sufficient income, because the drunk is now not cheap. Well, Russia is not only a city. And what about the villages, sober up, work probably appeared ?? By no means all thump. What do they drink? A fake excise tax button. Selling price in small wholesale 80-90 p. No one can even roughly estimate the scale of counterfeit alcohol in circulation. Already back from the Guarantor
    1. -6
      7 October 2019 12: 38
      Quote: 9PA
      Already back from the Guarantor

      I agree. BUT

      Quote: 9PA
      Ilya Mask is a creator man. That is what we did not. The step of one man and the leap of all mankind. Good luck Musk!

      RIP
    2. +2
      7 October 2019 12: 51
      How are work and drinking related? If a person does not have enough money for a normal existence, he will not buy vodka. And he will spend money on daily necessities and will try to raise funds. He will have neither time nor desire for alcohol. Unless, of course, a person is competent and has not fallen into disgust, the pig, as they say, will find dirt.
      1. 9PA
        0
        7 October 2019 15: 03
        And why did the villages drink too much in the 90s?
        1. +3
          7 October 2019 15: 15
          The village drank before that. Lived in the countryside - seen enough. Active, active left for the city. I have only 5 people left from a class in a village. The most marginal. Although three of them rose, who on what still lives well. And two yes, they fell in an unequal battle with the green serpent.
          1. 9PA
            +2
            7 October 2019 15: 36
            I grew up near a glass factory, a huge facility that gave work to the village. Yes, hard workers have never been sober, but their work was kept in people. The plant collapsed, work was gone, hard workers flew down the social ladder, and with them the family. Everything rested on women. Work is the cornerstone for men
            1. +1
              7 October 2019 15: 40
              Why booze? Alcohol does not solve the problem, but rather exacerbates it. Some shitty guys, since everything keeps on the women.
              1. 9PA
                +1
                7 October 2019 15: 44
                And you around was different? Then I am happy for you. I had half of Bati's friends thumped, the market decided to say so. Worked and got a penny mother. Of course, this is from weakness, but I can’t judge how I would overcome this extortion and overcome at all. But, I repeat, the presence of work keeps a person in people
                1. +3
                  7 October 2019 16: 00
                  In the dashing 90s, I found myself in a deep anus. But Bukhalovo had no time, no strength, no law — three small ones and a wife in her arms, spinning as best he could. And my friends were of the same opinion: it was worthless to shift men's responsibilities to aunts.
          2. +2
            7 October 2019 18: 53
            It is worth reading Shukshin. This is after 60-70 years ?. Drank scary
        2. +1
          7 October 2019 16: 26
          Quote: 9PA
          And why did the villages drink too much in the 90s?

          The same thing as below you were told. The village began to drink too much earlier than in the 90s, I do not know specific dates .. But my uncle .. "combiner-drummer" was drinking white and moonshine in the village .. biting "the smell of a shirt" and it was in the order of things.
  31. +1
    7 October 2019 13: 18
    Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
    You are writing Oleg Chuvakin

    All claims to the German author Yes
    Ulf Mauder talks about this in a major German newspaper, Die Welt ...
  32. 0
    7 October 2019 14: 26
    Only one thing is false - the sabotage phrase from the movie "The Russians do not eat after the first" encoded, claimed and ruined millions of lives !!!!
    And there are also false codings like "A woman loves with her ears" the consequences of which are millions of single mothers and fatherlessness with bitter destinies !!!! Propagandists need to really be on the lookout for it is time to introduce censorship, decipher some concepts and not just listen and talk !!!!!
  33. 0
    7 October 2019 14: 34
    I play the online game Combat Arms so there, for example, to the question "why are you playing so badly?" Many young people with bravado answer "I'm drunk !!!" The word "Bukhoi" and then the state became familiar in the internet and even fashionable, of course I try to argue with mostly children, but I alone do not need to declare war on such a fashion!
    1. +2
      7 October 2019 16: 24
      Quote: Samum
      The word "drunk"

      It is used by completely sober people as an excuse, an excuse for their mistakes, inattention, etc. But really "drunk" and it will not be able to play =)
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 19: 56
        OK ! I'll come into the game and try to check !!!))))
  34. kig
    0
    7 October 2019 15: 10
    According to WHO, from 2003 to 2016. alcohol consumption in Russia decreased by 43 percent!


    Fir-trees, and then the damned influence of the West lost ...
  35. 0
    7 October 2019 15: 11
    Quote: 210ox
    The drunken mastodon apologists of "Sicilism" would be better off.

    If touched, sorry! Not a good joke .. It turned out evil .. stop I wanted to stir people ..
  36. +2
    7 October 2019 16: 20
    Last year .... I went to Sweden for 2 weeks .... I am extremely surprised that the Swedes were not included in the top "Bukhariks". No, of course I saw the Germans, the British, the Spaniards and the Americans .... but I saw "alcoholic ferries" only in Sweden. Maybe they didn't make it to the top, because the cunning Swedes buy booze in Tallinn? And they get into the Estonian statistics, and they take care of the Swedish one?) But what's the difference to me, I know from myself that I haven't been drinking for the 7th year, and my whole company has become a little drunk ... steel, but you can have a rest without drinking) Although of course you can still meet those who are still on duty at the store to borrow a "ruble until payday" ... but there are much less of them. In principle, I agree with the message of the article to plump less, but why? my opinion is that all those who drunk without restraint have already died, while others are tired of going to the cemetery ...
    ZY About the fact that Americans thump less than us ... I do not believe at all) there are too many friends and acquaintances "there". In general, you need to flog these statistics ...
  37. -2
    7 October 2019 17: 32
    While Russia drinks, it is invincible .. To the best of course! drinks

    And all these fitness-calories are yours, it's not for us .. We remember the "People's Commissar 100 grams" And we can repeat!
    1. 0
      8 October 2019 14: 59
      Cops and so profited from drunks, almost all live in apartments selected with the help of blackmail from drunks and drug addicts, so shaw Contra, you don’t give us old tales here !!! The Russians never drank, at least not more than others !! This was popularized under the Union of Vodara because the KGB supervised this industry.
  38. +3
    7 October 2019 17: 51
    There are statistics and there is a blatant lie. A small microdistrict of a small town in Crimea: there is no work, the alcohol store sells very little, and the sea is drunk. Drink porches. They don’t buy vodka, but drink it. After all, there is moonshine!
    1. -1
      7 October 2019 18: 03
      Natural selection. In their place will come t
  39. +3
    7 October 2019 18: 50
    Quote: Avior
    Many questions arise in counting. Moonshine rushing? In Germany, it’s somehow not very customary to drive him, which can’t be said about the Russian expanses.
    Again, surrogates, and all other home-diluted alcohol.
    Another issue is the structure of consumption.
    10-15 liters per year per person is not very much.
    And among the French and Italians, and even among the Czechs and Germans, wine and beer go through the division of foodstuffs rather than alcoholic drinks, so consumption is really average. Drink for dinner, as one of the dishes.
    But the situation changes dramatically if four out of ten drink, but if they drink, they drink like that.
    And the reality of 150 liters for ten, 120 for four, and 30 for the remaining six people.
    So it turns out that the majority hardly drinks, and there are plenty of drunks.
    Average consumption - it makes sense if it is really average.
    The French have it .....

    I completely agree! I travel to the regions, check the hospitals and see how many drunks lie in the district hospital and how many of them die. They simply do not always code the cause of death as alcoholism - the patient should have been diagnosed with alcoholism as a narcologist. Do they often go to him? Therefore, the cause of death is heart attack, cirrhosis, pneumonia, trauma, etc., and alcoholism is the basis. They drink everything in a row. And on the other hand, a lot of people practically or not at all drink - young doctors come, so they often have no one to drink with!))) wink
  40. +5
    7 October 2019 19: 25
    Among other things - 45 million cars for personal use - for normal people, this is another anchor from vodka.
    But with drug addiction, unfortunately, it is not so rosy, and information about the number of drug addicts is very probable and approximate, at least there is no such obvious progress as with drinking.
  41. +1
    7 October 2019 19: 49
    Those days when the image of a Russian in the West was associated with a forty-degree bottle were gone into the past. Now everything is different: Russians drink much less and live longer.


    I think most of us frankly do not care about what or with whom in the West the image of a Russian was associated. The main thing that matters to us is the real state of affairs.
    It is real and not exaggerated statistics in order to at least somehow explain where the stolen billions of rubles went.
    And now about reality. The reality is that the vast majority of the country's population does not live up to retirement, children almost die during physical education classes and when passing the exam in schools.
    Oncology in terms of prevalence approached ARI and, unlike alcoholism, with which you can live for decades and even live to a very old age, send it to a wooden box with an eternal residence permit under a low mourning fence in a year or two.
    Stroke and heart attack from "old man's" diseases turned into a disease of young people. Dementia (senile dementia) has also become younger, having spread from the ancient old people to the age of 50+, apparently she is not familiar with Skvortsova's statement that life expectancy in Russia is growing. Only here is the population statistics and the death rate across the country is relentless and says we are dying out.

    Apparently, this is the secret of the longevity of that nation, which was recently called "vodka".


    The main secret of modern Russian longevity is that there is no trace of longevity. The main thing that we learned is that the name "vodka" did not prevent the Russian nation from growing in number every year by 500-700 thousand people a year, giving birth to healthy children without perinatal centers and IVF and oncology can be something exotic like Ebola.
    1. -4
      7 October 2019 20: 34
      "Only now the statistics of the population and the death rate in the country are relentless and say that we are dying out." Sorry, but the death rate is 220000 more than the birth rate, in 6 months, in a country with a population of 147 million, you cannot call it extinction, but in the 90s, when 150000 per month was thrown back at the minimum birth rate, it could be called extinction. "And the disease oncology can be something exotic like Ebola." Well, yes, in someone's fantastic tales. In 1950, the population of the RSFSR was 101160000 people in 2019 - according to the official statistics in Russia, almost 147 million, in 1991 the population was 148 million, 29 years have passed - where is the extinction? Statistics on abortions from 1950 to 1994 - generally fierce trash - this is why our population is not 200 million, you see, people did not see a future for their children under the Union, but under Putin, the tyrant of abortions is less and less.
  42. +1
    8 October 2019 09: 39
    A healthy lifestyle and a healthy lifestyle throughout the country are good for healthy people!

    And it is unnecessary for a healthy person to stupefy himself, there are many ways to feel real human Happiness.
    Be healthy!
  43. +1
    8 October 2019 12: 03
    We started about alcohol, and ended with Putin.
  44. 0
    8 October 2019 12: 48
    Cruel disinfectant, lullative.
    In Moscow, maybe they drink less
    And in the areas of red / white and the like, the vipers do not have time to open.
    No work.
    If there is, then for a penny
    Massive (!) Family drunkenness.
    Around the cities a cemetery has grown, not even two but more.
    About the disease from drunkenness, too, everyone is silent.
    I will say one thing:
    Wake up the Soviet country!
    ... to the mortal battle!
  45. +4
    8 October 2019 14: 22
    In fact, they began to drink much less. Young people are mostly beer and in small quantities. The older generation of cognac, etc., is a little strong or wine. Compared with the 90s is generally impossible. Then among us it was a certain sport.
    But cheap vodka and freedom did their job. Who wanted to drink without the shores died out. Who knew that it was necessary to stop - stopped. Young people show life - a drunk and a drug turn into a scourge and do not live long. During this time, natural selection has passed. Regrettably for us. Apparently, this was the only way to stop this tsunami of drunkenness.
    The Soviet government nursed with drunks, healed, dragged by the collar into a brighter future. But nothing helped. The capitalism of drunks simply gobbled up and threw out of life.
    1. +2
      8 October 2019 17: 15
      Maybe it's for the best.
    2. 0
      9 October 2019 17: 26
      Yes! I agree!
  46. +1
    8 October 2019 19: 57
    It would be better if we thought about work for the population. Then you look and drunkenness will go away by itself. And yes, the population of Russia drinks really less. And the young people are serious, very good. Today I only came from Russia.
  47. +1
    9 October 2019 17: 24
    Well ... Well, yes!
    Now finding a bruise is not an easy task. Especially in commercial quantities. At the porches for a long time drunks are not sitting. And the fashion for a healthy lifestyle and, you will laugh, for law-abiding, is very, very common among young people and teenagers.
    It is not uncommon to see a flock of senior pupils and senior pupils standing at attention to a red light on an empty road.
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  49. 0
    11 October 2019 20: 25
    Liars note.
  50. 0
    13 October 2019 08: 30
    And to repress Gorbachev ... I’m sure as the last commander of the OKOM VGMI.