Bertsa for the US Army

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One of the most important elements of a soldier’s outfit is, of course, shoes. Armies of the world are switching to practical berets. These shoes are comfortable, practical and indispensable for the military.





In many ways, the huge popularity of just such shoes is explained by a special design that provides tight fixation of the leg above the ankle, thereby protecting against dislocations, injuries, sprains and helps to increase maneuverability and comfort when crossing rough terrain, and staying in field conditions.

In the next Rud & Co issue, US Army serviceman Ivan Rudenko (former Ukrainian serviceman) shares his impressions of buying a new pair of army shoes.

To date, the army shoe model presented in the video is considered one of the best among light tactical boots approved for the US Armed Forces. Some believe that these army boots, by their characteristics, occupy a solid second place after the Danner USMC Rat shoe option.

What features of the Belleville One Xero Z20 Combat Boot model provide them with extra strength and comfort, what do the US Army say about berets? The answers to these and other questions are in the video.

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    1. -42
      6 October 2019 14: 03
      right now, "hurray patriots" will run and it will begin. - you are lying !!! Hurray for the Orthodox Kirzach !!!
      1. +10
        6 October 2019 14: 12
        [quote = vuiko Ukrainian] right now "hurray patriots" will run and it will begin. - you are lying !!! hurray for the Orthodox Kirzach !!! [/ quote]
        I bought a pair of American berets for a demobilization, there was a lot of this goodness in the market in Sevastopol, APUs went to them, they are not lightweight, leather, but after our pickaxes - like six, I moved to a Mercedes ... Yes, six is ​​not a bad car but Mercedes - made for people ...
        1. +14
          6 October 2019 14: 57
          Quote: raw174
          they are not lightweight, leather, but after our kirzach - like from the six, I moved to a Mercedes.

          The Kirzachs were good at WWII for our collective farm, but of course for the army. The normal boot should be yuft, it is soft and the foot does not sweat like that. I personally liked our Morpech boot, with which I stamped Mother Earth for 6 years.
          1. -1
            6 October 2019 17: 34
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Kirzachs were good WWII

            And bast shoes were good for cavemen. apparently you need to equip the army with bast shoes? fool

            It's time to already understand that what was good before, now is complete garbage, and it doesn't matter if it's a yuft or not a yuft boot, or ankle boots, not ankle boots, no difference. Military footwear must meet certain requirements and it is they that need to be discussed, it is about them that you need to talk, and not toss over from empty to empty, but to carry on a holivar verbiage in the style of "boots VS ankle boots".
            And personally, I put the main parameter "protection of feet from sharp objects" such as glass, nails, fittings, but commonplace stones and bumps. Such protection allows the fighter to survive, he runs faster along the intersection, because he is less distracted. And a good berets-like shoe gives this protection, but there is no boot, make a boot with this protection then and we can continue the discussion.
            1. 0
              7 October 2019 17: 19
              I agree to stand still can not go to excellence. I would like to take amer’s boots for myself), I preferred to serve boots in the army, because you can cook legs in hot boots and you can freeze them in the cold where you couldn’t run and you need to get used to it for more than a month, and if you put crocodiles on, you’ll also erase )))
            2. 0
              7 October 2019 17: 25
              In fairness, for boots, irregularities of glass and stones with reinforcement are not a problem in principle. And with boots, mud and puddles up to 20 cm ford and feet are always dry.
              1. 0
                7 October 2019 18: 50
                Well, "for the sake of justice" in the Russian information field, "ankle boots" call a huge variety of shoes. That's why I wrote earlier "ankle-like shoes" (here I include all shoes with durable but flexible soles and lacing). For example, there are "boots" where the "tongue" in the lower 20cm is sealed (that is, there you can stand in the puddles), and there are also "boots" where the tongue has a strip of foam type stitched (it allows air but not water), and there are also "boots" (yes again in quotes wink ) where on top there are "patches" with lacing. It is also worth noting that the same "boots and ankle boots" can be very different depending on how to wear them (below there is an example look "thanks to the" pea "), this is just about" boil in the heat and freeze in the cold " ...

                In general, the best special shoes are made by some American mini-company, there are Kevlar inserts, chemical protection, water protection, ventilation, and heating, and they look like cosmonaut shoes, and the cost is over 20k , the truth is released piece by piece and manually (in fact, therefore, the cost of overdraft).
                1. 0
                  7 October 2019 20: 16
                  Ah dream and not shoes but toad will crush for work ((
        2. +4
          6 October 2019 18: 42
          A matter of taste. I have two pairs of army berets in stock. Honestly do not like. Severe, uncomfortable. The skin is of course strong but tough. I prefer light high mountain boots. Reliable and easy. If correctly selected, their legs are much less tired than from the army.
          1. +2
            6 October 2019 19: 02
            Quote: Lunic
            I prefer light high mountain boots.

            Yes, everyone prefers, you can not mountain, just with the ability to wear like seasoned trousers as a start.
      2. +6
        6 October 2019 14: 12
        An Orthodox Kirzach would well bring a Basurman adversary to life, wearing both a leg and a projectile, a berets more humane would not be our method ....
        1. +4
          6 October 2019 16: 25
          Is that berts more humane? belay And you are a comedian! laughing
          1. +1
            6 October 2019 17: 54
            To be honest, God was merciful to compare it was not given, but given the weight of the kirzachs, in which I departed at one time, I think the berets more humane.
            1. +1
              7 October 2019 17: 13
              So I happened, actually, and now I have to. I will say one thing, both have pros and cons. I would prefer an intermediate option. There were such boots in time, in the airborne forces, with a half-shortened bootleg. So, they have a cloth liner in the form of a sock for place footcloths and it would be happiness.
              1. 0
                7 October 2019 17: 23
                Footcloths did not bother me. I wound it "on the machine" - I went without any problems. My first kirzachs were so trampled to my leg that then I could not wear others, took them back from the capter, gave them new ones, and served (though the service is sedentary - on the second floor below level 0)
                1. 0
                  10 October 2019 16: 53
                  Until I learned to shake it normally, I rubbed my legs in meat. I had to run every day. In the smaller part, but also.
        2. +4
          6 October 2019 21: 51
          Again, footcloths are prohibited by international convention - chemical weapons smile
          1. 0
            8 October 2019 10: 35
            Berts, sometimes, after a hard day smells so that footcloths are cramped together and are trying to crawl away.
      3. +22
        6 October 2019 14: 17
        [quote = vuiko Ukrainian] hurray to the Orthodox Kirzach !!! [/ quote]
        I bought a berets for work .. It seems convenient .. I’m crawling around the car, my leg is fixed in them well .. I began to cook the crossbar on the body ... and then the dross got right into the berets .. and I double warmed my foot there ... Oh and dancing were .. while removed ... Now I crawl in boots .. conveniently. A couple of times the dross flew in .. the boot flies off one foot in one motion .. Yes, and it’s cold with us .. The legs are clamped in the berets .., the blood flow worsens .. Better boots with a flannel ..
        1. +3
          6 October 2019 15: 13
          Quote: dvina71
          I bought boots for work .. It seems convenient .. I’m crawling around the car, the leg is fixed in them well ..

          It’s better to work with kirzachi, the laces on the berets burn laces, and if, like my Turkish, over a meter, you will find such figs if not slings from a parachute, and then the video will be like a follower of one of the sub. culture.
          Quote: dvina71
          In berets, the foot is pinched .., blood flow is deteriorating.

          berets are different.
          1. +2
            6 October 2019 18: 02
            Quote: marshes
            Quote: dvina71
            In berets, the foot is pinched .., blood flow is deteriorating.

            berets are different.

            Just put on footcloths under ankle boots or specialized socks, or, like most, tuck your pants into ankle boots and lacing under the leg (at the top and bottom it is stronger in the center, weaker), thanks to the "pea" from the wrinkling trouser leg, the blood flow will not be squeezed during walking.
            1. +1
              6 October 2019 18: 13
              Quote: ProkletyiPirat
              Just put on footcloths under ankle boots or specialized socks, or, like most, tuck your pants into ankle boots and lacing under the leg (at the top and bottom it is stronger in the center, weaker), thanks to the "pea" from the wrinkling trouser leg, the blood flow will not be squeezed during walking.

              I have a lot of experience in berets and boots, most importantly dry legs. But I’m for high boots, not berets. And for socks with woolen, even in the summer. He takes it away. Plus, the lining is made of Gore Tex. No mazoles, not sores.
              1. 0
                13 November 2019 00: 08
                That's right, berets are too short. My son served as a border guard (Moldova). Usually they walked in boots, they went to the border strictly in knee-high boots. If in berets, then in slush or protso early in the morning from wet grass, after 1/2 hour, the pants to the knees are wet.
                1. -1
                  13 November 2019 00: 10
                  Quote: mister-red
                  That's right, berets are too short. My son served as a border guard (Moldova). Usually they walked in boots, they went to the border strictly in knee-high boots. If in berets, then in slush or protso early in the morning from wet grass, after 1/2 hour, the pants to the knees are wet.

                  On what border was he a border guard there? With Romania?
                  1. 0
                    13 November 2019 00: 17
                    Well, yes, and on what else? )
                    1. 0
                      13 November 2019 00: 23
                      Not particularly with tall grass there .. along the river the border passes. The rod is called
                      1. 0
                        13 November 2019 17: 52
                        Are you telling me this ?! Do you think there is a border in the middle of the river and border guards on boats? In those days, there was still a thorn on the shore from Soviet times. Filmed after the events of April 2009. Patrols walked far from the river, there grass is waist-deep.
                        1. 0
                          13 November 2019 17: 56
                          He served on 2 outposts: Fresinesti and Toceni - take a look on Google maps what kind of greenery there is on the shore
        2. +1
          6 October 2019 20: 29
          Quote: dvina71
          A couple of times the scale arrived .. the boot flies off one foot in one motion .. Yes, and it’s cold with us .. The legs are clamped in the berets .., the blood flow worsens .. Better boots with a flannel ..

          They came to understand to whom the berets, to whom the kerza (to whom to whom the priest). You will not please everyone.
      4. +4
        6 October 2019 14: 19
        What does patriotism have to do with it? the kirzachi served their purpose and have not been used for a long time. for their time they performed their function, but time does not stand still ..
      5. +8
        6 October 2019 14: 47
        And you do not bother in front of the locomotive. When they come running in and then hurry up. And kirzachu really loud "hurray!", And a quiet thank you too. A fighter performs tasks under different conditions. The terrain is different in relief and soil. Time of year again, weather conditions. It's hard to come up with a one-hundred-percent comfort universal wet shoe for a soldier. So kirzachi for their time were quite normal footwear with some claim to versatility. For those who understand, of course. hi
      6. +2
        6 October 2019 15: 51
        Now run Svidomo yell-Omerygasny)))
      7. +10
        6 October 2019 18: 18

        right now, "hurray patriots" will run and it will begin. - you are lying !!! Hurray for the Orthodox Kirzach !!!
        Ta nii. Tilki trochi mock. Here are the European berets.
        But these berets are yours, Ukrainian.
        So we, without undue patriotism, will fight somehow better in kirzach, in the old fashioned way, so to speak ...
      8. -1
        6 October 2019 19: 25
        [quote = vuiko Ukrainian] right now "hurray patriots" will run and it will begin. - you are lying !!! hurray for the Orthodox Kirzach !!! [/ quote]
        Kirzach bullshit, but yuft, etaaaaaaaa. You used to sharpen a Lithuanian, you’ll clean your boots and scare the poop on the Russian pole with a vole. Eeeeeh blunders. But then I woke up in high boots.
      9. -2
        7 October 2019 11: 05
        By your minusers you can see that they ran.
      10. 0
        13 November 2019 00: 05
        He served in the MP, boots were summer, shortened. I don’t know how it was in berets, but in such boots it was very good.
        PS In a big war, socks can end in the first month, footcloths can be made from anything.
        PSS In boots, the best option for socks + footcloths, do not go astray at all. And the socks do not wear out, 2 pairs will last for several months. Checked. )
        1. -2
          13 November 2019 00: 08
          Quote: mister-red
          2 pairs is enough for several months.

          Pity your feet ...
    2. +16
      6 October 2019 14: 08
      These shoes are comfortable, practical and indispensable for the military.

      Before the army, I also believed that boots are the past, and our boots are all .....
      At first, in the army, they gave me boots, then I already bought my berets - and I regretted it ....
      High boots are good to march on the parade ground, or in the desert, no more. On rough terrain, in our latitudes, they will yield to boots.))) This was the first time I realized when I put on my berets under a raincoat, in the rain ... And all the water from the raincoat, when walking, safely flowed into berets, and they immediately became full of water, which did not add comfort. There is no such problem in the boots - the bootleg is higher than the edge of the raincoat, and the water drains quietly to the ground.
      The second case, which made me regret the berets, happened a couple of months later when the snow fell. And we were forced to crawl in deep snow, according to Plastunsky, as a result of which, after a couple of minutes, in berets, it was full of snow, in boots there was no such problem ....
      This is so, offhand, that I remember in the army, about the berets ...)))
      1. +3
        6 October 2019 14: 17
        Tightly laced and the snow will not let go better than any boots.
        1. +4
          6 October 2019 14: 24
          Tightly laced and the snow will not let go better than any boots.

          Yes, lace up as you like - crawl through the snow - you will know for yourself ...
          1. +3
            6 October 2019 15: 17
            Quote: lucul
            Yes, lace up as you like - crawl through the snow - you will know for yourself ...

            I used and use Turkish ones, excellent berets. Moreover, you can stand at the ankle and you can’t soak it and don’t fill it in. In the spring, sometimes I melt water from the yard and keep it even above my ankles.
      2. +1
        6 October 2019 14: 22
        it depends on what kind of shoes))) Lowa try) you will understand that boots up to them are like up to the moon on four wheels.
        1. +3
          6 October 2019 14: 26
          it depends on what kind of shoes))) Lowa try) you will understand that boots up to them are like up to the moon on four wheels.

          What are you saying? ....
          How much is the mobilization potential of the Russian Federation? 20 million people? Is there enough money for everyone to shoe at Lowa every year?
          1. +2
            6 October 2019 14: 40
            Well, your legs are your legs) I didn’t say everyone needs to be shod in them) I always bought a downtime for myself and did not wear uniforms. the experience was not very pleasant at the time and decided that it was better, albeit expensive. as for those mobilized in case of war, they will put on the usual and this is normal.
            1. 0
              6 October 2019 15: 19
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Well, your legs are your legs) I didn’t say everyone needs to be shod in them) I always bought a downtime for myself and did not wear uniforms. the experience was not very pleasant at the time and decided that it was better, albeit expensive. as for those mobilized in case of war, they will put on the usual and this is normal.

              The main thing in the infantry is DRY FEET!
        2. +2
          6 October 2019 14: 39
          Quote: lucul
          Yes, lace up as you like - crawl through the snow - you will find out for yourself ...

          In winter, I sometimes have to walk around the garden up to my waist in the snow --- I lace up tightly and generally does not penetrate moisture. True, I have Merrell mountain boots and even have a stamp sewn on them that they are "water proof". So such "crocodiles" in the army gave you that they did not keep snow / so in our army, by the way, they called ankle boots /. If the bootleg is high and tightly laced, then the snow simply has no way into the boot.
          1. 0
            6 October 2019 16: 22
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            In winter, you sometimes have to walk around the garden in the snow in the snow --- I am tightly laced and generally moisture does not penetrate.

            You seem to have served in the Air Force, but what about winter boots, high fur boots inside, not fate?
            I have such from my father, this is when we have -20, or I go to Astana in the winter.
        3. 0
          8 October 2019 18: 29
          Quote: carstorm 11
          it depends on what shoes))) Lowa try)

          I go to the forest in Lova marshmallow GTX with goreteks. No complaints, of course these are not rubber boots but keep a quick puddle.
      3. +1
        6 October 2019 14: 27
        You can throw a boot, it looks very beautiful in flight, a samovar is opened, it doesn’t work out with a berets, if only it is boiled and eaten like Charlie Chaplin. Well and in the end, not being afraid to soak the footcloths, calmly overcome a water obstacle. And yes, when wet footcloths can be turned over and put on the dry side.
        1. +1
          6 October 2019 14: 35
          Quote: sabakina
          rehearse a samovar, it won't work with a berets,

          I haven’t seen 15 for years now, so that the samovar was unheard.
          1. +3
            6 October 2019 14: 39
            This is because you have berets, and here I am every weekend, when the children arrive. Very effective and effective. True, I have a special boot.
            1. 0
              6 October 2019 14: 48
              Quote: mark1
              This is because you have berets,

              And here are berets, or boots? I'm talking about a samovar. Last time I saw my grandfather and grandmother rumble on the balcony. Now they even banned smoking.
              Well, as for the video, he is Ukrainian, he is Ukrainian in America too. He buys in an army store and sells in the open spaces of the former USSR.
              1. +3
                6 October 2019 15: 08
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                And here are berets, or boots?

                Yes, it was something like a joke, in line with the first post set. But tea from a samovar ... it's certainly something! It seems the same water, but how much tastier it turns out!
                1. +1
                  6 October 2019 15: 10
                  Quote: mark1
                  But tea from a samovar ... it's certainly something!

                  Yes, he was with us. Gone somewhere else in 80.
              2. 0
                6 October 2019 16: 35
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                the balcony was unheard. Now they even banned smoking.

                And what about the smoke on the balcony is it serious?
                I think that we’ll introduce this, it’s impossible to smoke on trains already, but at stations where, in theory, you can, cops with hundreds in the bushes are hiding, seriously I saw this at the CHU station. There is already a rumor that people walking along the street are being hindered.
                1. +1
                  6 October 2019 16: 49
                  Quote: marshes
                  And what about the smoke on the balcony is it serious?

                  You can smoke, open fire can not be used. I don’t know what they mean, and I don’t want to know. I do not make bonfires on the balcony. winked I'll go smoke.
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2019 16: 52
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    You can smoke, open fire can not be used. I don’t know what they mean, and I don’t want to know. I do not make bonfires on the balcony. I'll go smoke.

                    It sucks when "Sportsmen" are in power. laughing
          2. 0
            6 October 2019 14: 42
            Now there is a huge demand for old samovars) they buy very expensively and really drink tea) it is quite possible someone with a boot and stoker)
            1. +3
              6 October 2019 14: 48
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Now there is a huge demand for old samovars) they buy very expensively and really drink tea) it is quite possible someone with a boot and stoker)

              Samovar tea is much tastier than any teapot. Tested by myself. And if also with bumps ....
              1. 0
                6 October 2019 15: 37
                Well, who argues) everything should be enjoyed.
            2. +1
              6 October 2019 14: 51
              Quote: carstorm 11
              Now there is a huge demand for old samovars) they buy very expensively and really drink tea)

              Yes, they are new and sold. On wood, in the sense.
              1. +3
                6 October 2019 15: 24
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Yes, they are new and sold. On wood, in the sense.

                We have all the bazaars littered, I myself use 3 liter and then when the guests are up to a fig.
                1. +2
                  6 October 2019 15: 41
                  Quote: marshes
                  We have all the bazaars littered, I myself use 3 liter and then when the guests are up to a fig.

                  And there are 50 liters. I saw such a bandura, you can pour mash.
                  1. +3
                    6 October 2019 15: 53
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    And there are 50 liters. I saw such a bandura, you can pour mash.

                    There are such people in our villages at weddings and commemoration, they use it, save as much as 10–15 kilograms of pure copper. Even before the revolution.
                    Although it’s already done, the food is stainless.
                    And there are people for 100 people.
                    By the way, they’re opened up not with a boot, but with leather BYPACKS.
                2. Geo
                  0
                  6 October 2019 22: 41
                  And we do not even have bazaars
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2019 22: 44
                    Quote: Geo
                    And we do not even have bazaars

                    And where is it?
                    And how do you live?
                    1. Geo
                      +2
                      6 October 2019 22: 59
                      Quote: marshes
                      And where is it?

                      In the edge captured by "five" / "crossroads" / "tastevillas" and so on.

                      Quote: marshes
                      And how do you live?

                      It is known how - without samovars, like some basurmans.
          3. +1
            6 October 2019 19: 20
            I read that only thin housewives rained their boots ... Yes, those in a hurry ....... But for a normal owner, it’s almost a shameful boot. And drowned, by the way, only with cones ....
        2. 0
          6 October 2019 15: 22
          Quote: sabakina
          And yes, when wet footcloths can be turned over and put on the dry side.

          On the other side of the boot, then the legs sweat in summer. And when the humidity is high, it doesn’t roll. By the way, knitted woolen socks dry faster than a footcloth.
          1. +1
            6 October 2019 16: 53
            Swamps, and sho, in the army give out handmade knitted woolen socks?
            1. +1
              6 October 2019 17: 08
              Quote: sabakina
              Swamps, and sho, in the army give out handmade knitted woolen socks?

              Something I look for Movil laughing Yes, grandmothers do not have a problem to buy and are not expensive. Kursach and conscripts in the early years, shop at the nearest bazaar. Yes, in principle, on 4 knitting needles, you can tie it yourself. laughing
      4. 0
        6 October 2019 20: 37
        Quote: lucul
        This is so, offhand, that I remember in the army, about the berets.

        It’s good that there’s nothing to compare with when I was in the Navy, there were boots, boots in the Marine Corps, you want to wear it, you want to not, but there was simply no other.
      5. 0
        6 October 2019 21: 55
        And not vice versa, the boot raking snow with ankle boot?
        And if the boot is stuck in the mud and the leg is pulled out of it?
    3. +4
      6 October 2019 14: 14
      Good shoes are the key to quick maneuver in the mountains and forests. Good berets plus good thermal socks - the soldier does not feel tired. It took up to 120 km in 8 days with a big backpack in the fields, mountains, on the rocks and fords (who understands what mountain tourism is) - and the legs rest ... It’s not for nothing that our specialists respect foreign shoes. Honestly, ours, too, have learned to make berets. For 5 thousand I buy berets lightweight one domestic factory - for 3 years of brutal operation is enough. Socks, too, for three years, by the way.)))
      1. -1
        6 October 2019 14: 27
        who understands what mountain tourism is)

        Mountain tourism and war are two big differences.
        The first berets, in the army, the Italians used, under Mussolini, only this did not help them in any way.
      2. +4
        6 October 2019 16: 56
        Michael, I would very much like to look at your socks after three years of EVERYDAY SOCKS ...
        1. 0
          6 October 2019 17: 17
          Quote: sabakina
          Michael, I would very much like to look at your socks after three years of EVERYDAY SOCKS ...

          With a woolen thread, almost no fan. If you change daily, wash.
          There are those on sale, China. And Summer Bamboo, fiber, not bad. But woolen and summer is not bad to wear, the strangest thing they protect from heat. laughing
          X / B is evil in both cases.
        2. 0
          6 October 2019 19: 04
          I think it’s not worth it)) But I think that they take place in the mountains during the summer period - in ordinary life, just for a year is enough. moreover, I tried to find scuffs, tears and other shortcomings. Have not found. It is clear that the mass army is difficult to put on shoes from Zamberlan, although the Ministry of Emergency Situations massively bought it for its units. But for some reason, how it bites, so the combat units change their shoes and even rearm themselves, so that there are more chances to stay alive. And note, there are definitely no kirsachs on this list ...
          1. 0
            6 October 2019 19: 09
            In general, like our specialists of different levels, let’s say, they get regular equipment and weapons. and with what they later go to combat, a separate very interesting topic ...
    4. +2
      6 October 2019 14: 17
      Our Specialists on foreign trips prefer "Zephyrs"
    5. -2
      6 October 2019 14: 28
      To date, the army shoe model presented in the video is considered one of the best among light tactical boots approved for the US Armed Forces.

      With all this, servicemen are allowed to independently purchase third-party shoes with reimbursement of the cost by the state, because it is believed that it is better to let the soldier perform the task in non-statutory but comfortable shoes than to suffer in the official one, if it was not possible to find a suitable one. This only applies to shoes. "Partisan" is not allowed in clothing.
      1. -1
        6 October 2019 14: 34
        "Partisan" is not allowed in clothing.

        Do you know how shoes for the rich differ from the rest of branded consumer goods?
        For the rich, they make a plaster cast of two feet, and then the shoes are "pulled" over it. )))
      2. +1
        6 October 2019 14: 53
        I don’t know if it’s true or true, or maybe an advertising move, but ...
        A long time ago, when loaves cost 13/15 kopecks in the shops, Sporting Goods, interesting shoes were sold, according to the present-day berets.
        They were produced by a Czech company either "Cebo" or "Botas" They served me for seven years, well, they were very convenient !!!, though they cost 55 rubles.
        And now it is true, they say that in Vietnam, American `` soldiers / liberators '' just used these Czech ankle boots, because. in their own-falling into a hole, a trap with sharpened bamboo received severe injuries to the foot and ankle. And in the Czech ones there was a very strong metal instep support (such a crap that holds and gives shape to the sole) and the sole did not break through with bamboo.
        Maybe I don’t know?
        1. -3
          6 October 2019 15: 32
          The Americans thought they would take it unceremoniously. And the Vietnamese, like the Czechs at that time, learned from Soviet science. And they remembered about "garlic"

          and invented a lot of them.
          URL:
          https://nepropadu.ru/blog/selfdefense/3098.html
          that in Vietnam, American `` soldiers / liberators '' just used these Czech ankle boots

          I don’t think they bought directly from the Czechs, most likely the shoes were on sale in the civilian market, but after that they launched the production of such shoes and the durability of the shoes, including soles pay close attention.
        2. +1
          6 October 2019 15: 34
          Quote: VeteranVSSSR
          And in Czech there was a very strong metal arch support (such crap that holds and gives shape to the sole)

          A steel plate with a width of about 10 mm and different lengths depending on the size of the shoe. It is installed in almost all shoes.
        3. 0
          6 October 2019 20: 47
          Quote: VeteranVSSSR
          And in Czech there was a very strong metal arch support (such crap that holds and gives shape to the sole) and the sole did not break through with bamboo.

          Great shoes, I walked, I know.
      3. +3
        6 October 2019 18: 56
        Quote: lexus
        This applies only to shoes.

        Came into the battery salagi. Among them was one Ossetian. A rare instance of the human race! Bogatyr! He didn’t fit into the system, he occupied one and a half places in the rank and therefore went last, a sort of bow-tie over all towering in soldier's slippers. His civilian quarantined shoes were seized, but they could not pick up the size of their boots, some forty or the last. They picked up a form, although it was too small for him. So I went on a demobilization, but all of him did not receive boots to order! It was good May, before winter-autumn there was time.
        I don’t know why they identified him in the air defense, but you certainly won’t put that into the tank. wink
        1. +2
          6 October 2019 19: 04
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          A rare instance of the human race! Bogatyr!

          It always happens.
          sad
        2. -2
          6 October 2019 19: 07
          I don’t know why it was identified in the air defense

          To prevent the passage of enemy aircraft at low altitude, not otherwise. lol
          Well, or to speed up reloading, there is no superfluous force there.
          1. +1
            6 October 2019 20: 03
            Quote: lexus
            To prevent the passage of enemy aircraft at low altitude, not otherwise.

            Maybe wink
        3. +1
          6 October 2019 19: 13
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          Hero!

          I saw such a Meskhetian Turk, not only did he have a beard right up to his eyes, or rather a shaving line. Not more than 1.5 he served in the detachment, he was hardly able to find clothes from screwdrivers. And his shoes were 47 or higher, although they were always in shale was.
          It turns out how the ETI looks. laughing Well, like a Turk, a commandant’s part and a catering department.
          But the boy is not bad, not angry, like a teddy bear. Yes, and no one did not climb.
          1. +1
            6 October 2019 19: 57
            Quote: marshes
            It turns out how the ETI looks. laughing Well, like a Turk, a commandant’s part and a catering department.
            But the boy is not bad, not angry, like a teddy bear. Yes, and no one did not climb.

            This guy was normally folded and not a yeti face, he was just too big. wink Consider such huge for life, consider, did not meet more.
            Previously, I noticed that usually the heroes were usually gentle, anger is often more inherent in small ones.
            1. +3
              6 October 2019 20: 04
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              This guy was normally folded and not a yeti face, he was just too big.

              Well, then that Turkish hero, sorry Batyr.
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Previously, I noticed that usually the heroes were usually gentle, anger is often more inherent in small ones.

              This is about the truth, although when I was in quarantine, my fellow countrymen from Kordai got it. Well, I myself Tail, I know the order in the sociome, fenced off from getting it.
              I can boast that no one hung up and did not open, with me. And the years were 93-98 the most difficult in life.
              1. +1
                6 October 2019 20: 10
                Quote: marshes
                I can boast that no one hung up and did not open, with me. And the years were 93-98 the most difficult in life.

                As a commander, respect.
                1. +1
                  6 October 2019 20: 15
                  Quote: There was a mammoth
                  As a commander, respect.

                  The experience, though young, was great.
                  Kadetka, Suvorov Military School-Military Institute, although honestly everything didn’t rest on figs. As my wife said, I lost my childhood by building my little ones.
    6. +4
      6 October 2019 15: 11
      Bertsa is one thing, and regular mention of this channel is another. It already smells bad.
    7. 0
      6 October 2019 15: 42
      Bertsa, and the truth - are different. And there is one more garbage, berets are always more dimensional, well, and the protected sole gives in the forest not a plus, but a minus. Like a cow on ice. But even so, berets - that’s what happens different. They, too, like trunks - just for different tasks, and here it is - one should understand not a moron with a barrel, and not an ensign in a warehouse, but a little higher
      1. +1
        6 October 2019 15: 56
        Quote: Uhu
        Bertsa, and the truth - are different. And there is one more garbage, berets are always more dimensional, well, and the protected sole gives in the forest not a plus, but a minus. Like a cow on ice. But even so, berets - that’s what happens different. They, too, like trunks - just for different tasks, and here it is - one should understand not a moron with a barrel, and not an ensign in a warehouse, but a little higher

        There are also tactical shoes, from moccasins (sneakers) to mountain shoes with spikes and hard soles.
        1. +1
          6 October 2019 17: 03
          What am I talking about?
          By the way - not always
          1. 0
            6 October 2019 17: 12
            Quote: Uhu
            What am I talking about? By the way - not always

            The hunter himself with experience, sometimes I prefer sneakers. Although there are boots, not berets, summer nubuck with mesh inserts. But still, like an elephant, stomp.
            1. -2
              7 October 2019 08: 26
              Not a hunter, but here is our "grid" ... Hmmm, very much so hmmm.
        2. -2
          6 October 2019 17: 59
          Tactical in many ways, hmm. there’s a hard one, but otherwise, well, people heard the roll of the foot ... Rolling CRUNCH laughing
          behind us .. in front of us ... Above you - only weep)))
    8. -4
      6 October 2019 15: 42
      Like in space. The Americans come up with a pen to write in space, and the Russians continue to write in pencil. Americans need boots, and in the Russian army they go in kirszach.
      1. -3
        6 October 2019 17: 34
        Yeah, as in Space, the Americans came up with a new reusable shuttle, but at the same time they are buying seats in the old Soviet Union
    9. 0
      6 October 2019 15: 44
      In general, I would like the author to go to Dordoi to go to Kyrgyzstan, where they sell military equipment.
      His horizons would expand on shoes, there are shoes from all over the world.
      Yes, I’m not sure that the USA is producing something themselves, there was a tiger jungle lump bought in the USA, Texas. Production is either Guatemala or something from the countries of C. America.
    10. +2
      6 October 2019 17: 04
      Bullshit report ...
      - Rumbled, rumbled ...- so he really didn’t tell anything ...
      -What are they, these berets ... ??? -What is the sole (rubber, silicone or leather) ...
      - Who has no idea ... about these American berets ...- and remained in ignorance ...
    11. 0
      6 October 2019 17: 51
      In general, there is experience, it is time to introduce what is in Kazakhstan and what in Kazakhstan, ordinary boots, not berets, 70% garrison life.
      If there is a field exit, then pants from raincoat fabric and a cloak will help a lot. The main thing is that the shoes are high. That would be a lump if you want to fill.
      Tall grass, dew, rain, snow. Everything can be solved with a set of raincoat fabric.
      With classic berets and boots you can already say goodbye.
    12. 0
      6 October 2019 19: 21
      I had similar boots (also from Danner). They rushed perfectly and it was very convenient to walk in them.
    13. +2
      6 October 2019 19: 24
      In the idial I would have boots but soft as berets ... now a shaft of such workwear shops for working on the streets. More accurately kirzacha (plus a lining, belts for change of width) oil resistant non-slip sole. And there are no flaws and berets and kirzach.
      And it’s better to make trousers for graduation ... Just not as if it were separate in the tzahal (cunning Jews leave the trousers as classic), but I put them in the bottom of my trousers, rip open the turn, put in an elastic band and sew it ...
      1. 0
        6 October 2019 19: 38
        Quote: Sergey086
        In the idial I would have boots but soft as berets ... now a shaft of such workwear shops for working on the streets. More accurately kirzacha (plus a lining, belts for change of width) oil resistant non-slip sole. And there are no shortcomings of both a berets and a kirzach. And it is better to make trousers for graduation ... Just not as separate in the tzahal (cunning Jews leave classic trousers), but I put them in the bottom of the trousers, rip open the turn, put in an elastic band and sew it ...

        I have a familiar calculation commander in the fire, so they prefer kirzachi instead of the boots provided. It's easier to put on. Yes, the heat from the sole does not pull like that.
    14. +1
      6 October 2019 19: 58
      Quote: mark1
      To be honest, God was merciful to compare it was not given, but given the weight of the kirzachs, in which I departed at one time, I think the berets more humane.

      tibia, yuft is heavier than a kirzach, especially on molten soles. even heavier mountain boots are rickety. The best option for tracking is hiking shoes.
      Quote: ProkletyiPirat
      And personally, I set the main parameter to "protect the feet from sharp objects" such as glass, nails, fittings, and banal stones and irregularities.

      Special boots with a metal toe cap and insole give the greatest protection, but this is for construction, for pedestrians is not the best choice. but in general, if you take shoes as part of the equipment, you need to consider not boots but a set of boots, snowshoes, cross-country and hunting skis, cats for ice - horizontal and vertical walls, fastenings on the entire set should ensure the use of a standard boot, and the boot should It is presented for different climates - temperature conditions, but with wide adjustments for leg fullness - straps on the foot and ankle. shoe covers are indispensable both when moving in the snow, and on a wet meadow.
      1. 0
        6 October 2019 20: 19
        Quote: edelweiss968
        tibia, yuft is heavier than a kirzach, especially on molten soles. even heavier mountain boots are rickety. The best option for tracking is hiking shoes.

        I agree to all 100.
    15. 0
      7 October 2019 00: 59
      I have leather ankle boots from Belarusians, combined domestic "lightweight" and winter Chinese, made for Americans. The lightest and most comfortable Chinese. Well, how can this be ??? To invent colorful and practically unnecessary stripes - yes, we can do it, and shoes, which occupy one of the most important places in the outfit, are not ...
      ___________________
      What shoes are best for a fighter? In peacetime, even lacquered with bows and chains, in war - durable, comfortable, seasonal and ... cheap. I believe that boots on these parameters will be out of competition. And when you need to quickly put on shoes, change shoes, then there’s nothing to argue about.
      At the same time, sneakers were preferred in Afghanistan; in Chechnya, as far as I know, rubber boots were held in high esteem. In general, as in the famous rhyme .. different shoes are needed, different shoes are important.
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 05: 45
        Boots rule, if anyone in the subject. For two years, I got used to them and footcloths so much that I didn’t want any sneakers. By the way, the footcloth is easy and convenient to twist, dry. A hole will appear at the sock, what should I do?
    16. 0
      7 October 2019 09: 21
      that's how you write.
      But: for the south, forest-steppe zone, boots are good, but for the north?
      Or is our country located in the latitude of Florida?
      And in sub-zero temperatures, in boots - how to go through the swamp?
      And in the north - almost everything is a swamp.
      Acroma of a part of Karelia, Kola and northern Urals.
      and there, in winter in boots, is no longer comfortable.
      and here everything is as before: everyone’s shoes are the same ... and if this doesn’t suit you, buy it yourself, but just don’t hang out with it
    17. 0
      7 October 2019 09: 38
      The point of discussing what has been seen and comparing with the kirsachs? Merikos should be given credit and the quality of their ammunition, at a very high level. Maybe we have samples, but on a global scale they provide their own better. The size of the defense budget is affecting
    18. +2
      7 October 2019 09: 46
      Again, gentlemen, talking about kirzachi friends of firefighters and friends of welders who are dripping red-hot metal, the article talks about shoes for military personnel stationed in Hawaii, and not about shoes of welders and firefighters in central Russia. You compare an elephant with a whale, who is stronger. Do not compare incomparable things, but rather show our worthy samples available to the rank and file. There is something for Americans to learn
    19. -2
      7 October 2019 19: 47
      Several years ago, my son joined the army. Received in the military registration and enlistment office new-fashioned "ankle boots" and a uniform "from Yudashkin." The fact that the shitform, figs with her, and because of the "boots", the son almost immediately lain in the hospital for 2 weeks - bloody calluses. Then he exchanged old kirzachs for these shoes from one of the old servicemen and served his year perfectly, there were no problems. Yes, he never in his life will wear this offspring of "shit", and so he even learned to twist footcloths))))
      1. -2
        7 October 2019 19: 59
        Quote: basal
        because of the "boots", the son almost immediately spent 2 weeks in the hospital - bloody calluses

        Ummm ... and such things happen from boots, argue ... you fool, people don’t know how to take care of their feet ...

        Quote: basal
        son almost immediately lounged in the hospital 2 of the week

        Put it ... on purpose ... and explain to your son that he is not a fighter so far. Dixie)
        1. -1
          8 October 2019 17: 43
          Unlike you, he served honestly. I would like to see your pedicure in shitty shit. For those in the tank I will explain. The recruits got full of shit. Shoes crush and rub. Outerwear is breathable. The son served near St. Petersburg, saw each other almost every week. Thanks to the commanders, they turned a blind eye to short absences from the unit))). At first it was difficult, but after 2 months I was amazed to see my son in kirzach and second-hand Soviet cotton. Hazing? Nope. The soldiers, realizing what rubbish they were given in the military registration and enlistment office, by hook or by crook exchanged old, still Soviet clothes from the demobels for "Yudashkin". The son, leaving for demobilization, also "waved without looking." The jacket is beautiful, and it weighs, neither he nor I wore it, so the memory of the service, and it is unsuitable even to go mushrooming in the forest.
    20. 0
      8 October 2019 13: 30
      I read the comments ... A strange dispute between people who did not wear anything "made in yuesei". If for the boots, then the marauders from the korkoran are better than the dunners and those praised in the video in terms of strength and comfort. This time. Who told you that US Army soldiers wear Belleville? An ordinary soldier wears ankle boots, made in China, as well as clothes. These are two. No, well, I have non-flammable pants for helicopter pilots, sewn in the USA. I altered them in the atelier to fit a male figure, not a panda, and at the same time I tweaked the seams of the holy American quality on the fifth point. And so cool pants that have no analogues in Russia)
    21. +1
      8 October 2019 20: 32
      Alas ... Look after the American ones at "our" boots and immediately the mood deteriorates.
      Full shit ... hmm, wonderful thing! wassat laughing lol
      For the army, our bureaucrats have such shit ..., hmm, high-class shoes, it’s not a pity!
      Everything for the fighters! All for the people! wassat laughing lol
      Now they have even created a super-duper "Ratnik" ... I believe that there are the same "standard" ankle boots, they will not be remembered by nightfall ...
      In a word, everything is, as always, "the economy for the people should be economical."
      Long live the great Putin and his great economists like Kudrin! fellow lol wassat

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