Syrian Kurds promise Turkey to respond with “war along the entire border” in case of attack

Representatives of Kurdish armed groups in Syria responded to statements by the Turkish president about their readiness to launch a military operation on the eastern bank of the Euphrates in northern Syria. A large Turkish contingent of at least 6 thousand troops has accumulated at the borders of the SAR.

Representatives of the so-called Syrian Democratic Union spoke out that if Turkish troops try to enter the territory controlled by the SDS, then a full-fledged war awaits them. This statement was made on Twitter by the SDS spokesman Mustafa Bali. Recall that the Syrian Democratic Union is actively supported by the United States.

Mustafa Bali on Twitter:

We are committed to the security mechanism and are taking all necessary steps to stabilize the region. But we will immediately turn any Turkish attack into a total war along the border in order to protect our people.

Meanwhile, Middle Eastern sources report that today Turkish combat aircraft can deliver the first airstrikes on positions of Kurdish armed forces.

Earlier, Turkish Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar said that the operation in northern Syria is necessary to create the "30-km security zone." Ankara wants to resettle hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees who are still on Turkish territory in this buffer zone. It is mainly about Arab refugees. Syrian Kurds are actively opposing this.

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[Livonetc]

They are unable to respond with "war along the entire border."
But massive sabotage raids can.

[Kontrik]

Quote: Livonetc

They are unable to respond with "war along the entire border."
But massive sabotage raids can.

So they hint at it .. Especially on the latest events in the SA.!
The USA-Israel will definitely help them in this matter ..
So Erdogan think well and better consult with Russia ..

[rocket757]

Welcome
The Kurds, like many, still have that discord in the ranks. But enough forces have been put on the military "rails" to keep the fire of war there.
It depends on the sponsors how it will be there. Smolder or blaze!

[Shurik70]

The US needs to support the war - they will help the Kurds.
Israel needs to do the muck of Turkey - help the Kurds.
Syrians and Russia do not need war - they will interfere with Turkey.
In total, all major players will directly or indirectly be on the side of the Kurds.

[210ox]

Alexander, I agree Only one thing confuses .. WHAT can ours prevent Turkey?

[The popuas]

Flags will be distributed to the Kurds

[Shurik70]

Quote: Popuas

Flags will be distributed to the Kurds

If you believe the Turkish media, then this was (caricature below).
The most productive in this war is to stand between the warring.
Well, do not forget politics. There are protests, all kinds of notes, an ideological war in the media is mandatory. Impact on Turkey's partners.

[Kontrik]

Quote: rocket757

Welcome

Good afternoon Victor ..

Quote: rocket757

The Kurds, like many, still have that discord in the ranks. But enough forces have been put on the military "rails" to keep the fire of war there.

I agree they are still warriors .. It's in their blood for a long time.

Quote: rocket757

It depends on the sponsors how it will be there. Smolder or blaze!

That's right, "sponsors" are in the queue and everyone has their own conditions.
The Kurds could have had "autonomy" at the beginning of the "solution to the Syrian problem." but the United States and Israel hurried in advance .. We had to launch the Turks, by agreement .... The East is a delicate matter and nobody can be trusted there. And Russia cannot leave Syria!

[rocket757]

Many who believe they have won the jackpot result in a complete blast!
"Big uncles" always have their own Iteres, and small ones usually have big problems!
Although the leaders, they’ll have some kind of interest if their heads are not folded in the process.
As a result, we will not see bright things there, there will be another, completely unsightly.

[Oquzyurd]

The Turks announced the name of the operation "Baris Pinarlari", if I am not mistaken, it means "Sprouts of Peace". After the operation, they intend to build 140 villages and 10 townships in those territories to accommodate 2 million Syrian refugees who are in Turkey. the fact is that 350 thousand of these refugees are Kurds.

[rocket757]

Quote: Oquzyurd

The Turks have voiced the name of the operation "Baris Pinarlari", if I am not mistaken, it means "Sprouts of Peace" after the operation. They intend to build

Let's take a look. The question is, who can intervene and upset the plans of the "Sultan"?

[Oquzyurd]

Already no one will bother or upset the plans. According to Turkish analysts, the Russian Federation, Syria and Iran are not against this operation. And the United States will move away, not far, but they will have to, forcedly. The Turks themselves say that they gathered 80 thousand of their soldiers, mainly a special unit and another 15 thousand assistants to the Syrians, who will be used in the front line.

[rocket757]

It may not be publicly opposed ..... it is not clear how the Yankees will explain this to the Kurds .... or will not ???

[Oquzyurd]

Just yesterday, there was a speech of a high official (I don’t remember who) addressing the Kurds that they say we did everything in our power, but the Turks are our allies and we must take into account everything ... etc. That is, Kurds if not, they should draw conclusions from such speeches. Or the US press: if the Turks enter, we will have to leave .. and so on. They give signals to the Kurds that they understood the created circumstance.

[rocket757]

Yes, this cannot be! So that someone "exceptional" could set up such circumstances that they could not overcome them!
I.e. they don’t catch a crocodile or grow a coconut ... because they cannot cancel Mondays?
Cool.

[gafarovsafar]

and good advice, as they say, is not worth cheap

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Kontrik

So they hint at it .. Especially on the latest events in the SA.!
The USA-Israel will definitely help them in this matter ..
So Erdogan think well and better consult with Russia.

Most likely, Erdogan with GDP has a certain agreement on how tightly Turkey can press the Kurds in the person of the SDF. There are only certain contradictions over the depth of the "security zone". Turks want 30 km., and Russia and Iran agree on 15 km. (mattresses agree on 5 km.) It is noteworthy that official Damascus is not actively protesting about a possible operation on Syrian territory, but rather, on the contrary, almost does not protest, but all because the Kurds have become a problem for both Assad and Erdogan. they both "tired" with their idea of ​​creating an independent Kurdistan. Erdogan, by virtue of his ambitions, understands perfectly well that beating the SDF will be a worthy response to the United States for the fact that it was with their submission in the recent past that he was almost cut off his head during a coup attempt. Assad understands that if the Turks begin to seriously put pressure on the Kurds, then they (the Kurds) can throw themselves under the umbrella of Damascus and refuse (or seriously move) their demands for autonomy, which automatically solves the problem between the Kurds and Syrians. Russia understands that with the hands of Edik and Assad, it is possible to move the interests of mattresses in an important region for Russia. Iran understands that the interests of mattresses in the region will be seriously affected. As a result, it turns out that everyone, except mattresses and Kurds, will have their buns. There is no doubt that the massacre will soon begin there, and the countdown time is ticking until October 15.

[Observer2014]

Are you for Turks or Kurds? I would like to hear specifically. And please, without "I don't care." And then somehow it will not really be in harmony with your comment.

[sabakina]

Sergey, he is for the international.

[rocket757]

The idea of ​​independence was not born today, and rivers of blood have spilled for it at all times.
You won’t find white and fluffy ones! A bunch of ideas, hotelok ... and crimes from all sides.

[Observer2014]

Yeah. For the bourgeois modern international. Or in any story and power FOR

[Tusv]

Quote: sabakina

Sergey, he is for the international.

Not glory ... An interesting question. You can't get off with Chapaev. Especially removing the mathematical component - "Doesn't it matter?" Then, you see, the sultan ate ice cream in Zhukovsky, met in Astana with Putin again. Surely cut off the phone at the Dark One before the promised invasion ...
I’m thinking. Sultanenok squeezes the oil fields from the Kurds, that is, from the States and finally quarrels with the Yankees. Is it profitable for Russia?

[gabonskijfront]

The soul for the Kurds, the head for the Turks, is the eternal Russian contradiction between reason and the emotional component.

[rocket757]

Quote: gabonskijfront

Soul for the Kurds

It looks like the Soviet soul ..... oh how many she was sick, with a very mixed result.
The Kurds have something to present from our Orthodox people.

[Kontrik]

Quote: Observer2014

Are you for Turks or Kurds?

I am personally for peace in the Middle East .. In order to drive out the United States and Israel to restrain the insolent ...
And then calmly figure out who is to blame and what to do ..
These are the things Sergey, in the special forces tank division (without identification marks)))))

[gabonskijfront]

Well, it's easy, let's make peace, Arabs, Jews, Kurds, Turks, Persians, Shiites, Sunnis, Alawites, Christians, Isis.

[Kontrik]

Quote: gabonskijfront

Well, it's easy, let's make peace, Arabs, Jews, Kurds, Turks, Persians, Shiites, Sunnis, Alawites, Christians, Isis.

And what, Russia was very good at it, always reconcile different peoples !!!! ..Now we are trying, but how we were "pressed" by the Jews and others .. heh he
How can we ..

How come the men ..

[bouncyhunter]

Vitaly, salute!
I will not predict - I'm not a fortuneteller. But I have my opinion on this issue.

[Plantagenet]

"For expelling the USA and Israel from there to rein in the impudent ..."

Well, the United States can still be understood, but how to expel Israel? Relocate an entire state? But to which territory?

[_Sergei_]

To the Jewish Autonomous Region

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: _Sergey_

To the Jewish Autonomous Region

As already in history, there was a person who wanted to resettle and solve the Jewish question, but your ancestors were smarter than you and decided it differently.
And today everything is easier if you remember the saying that in the event of such a development of events "we, as martyrs, will go to heaven, and they will simply die."

[Plantagenet]

But will the Jews want to relocate voluntarily? As far as I know from the history of the twentieth century, they moved mainly in the opposite direction.

[Tusv]

Quote: Sergey_

To the Jewish Autonomous Region

Why be sure to relocate that. Easier to join the Jewish Autonomous Region. In addition, We have from 90 to 99 a bunch of free numbers for the new administrative region in the Russian Federation

[Plantagenet]

Yes, but they are unlikely to join voluntarily. And then what is war?

[Tusv]

Quote: Plantagenet

Yes, but they are unlikely to join voluntarily. And then what is war?

What a war then. There, their Knesset is one-third Russian and some of the Jewish speakers here know whose roots they are and regularly visit Mother Russia. In general, now it’s as easy as visiting Israelis Russia and vice versa.
I will paraphrase Andrey Mironov from "An Ordinary Miracle". They're attractive, We're fucking attractive. What's the time to waste

[Plantagenet]

“The Jewish military sympathized with the Soviet Union, did not consider it shameful to share with Soviet people information that was even considered secret.
The abundance of information sources created a deceptive feeling of their power among the employees of the residency. They believed that they could secretly rule Israel and, through it, influence the American Jewish community. These were illusions, the Soviet people did not understand the political system of Israel. Not radical military, but rather moderate politicians led the country and determined the course of Israel. There were no Soviet agents among the politicians in power. ”

Leonid Mlechin “Why did Stalin create Israel?”

[Tusv]

Quote: Plantagenet

Leonid Mlechin “Why did Stalin create Israel?”

The darkness is Mlechin. When Rousseau was a tourist, the moral image closed the direct communication to the red-sea beaches of the Russian Federation in Egypt. Israel was the first to rush to the rescue

[Binder]

Gentlemen, you are doing a mine very funny, Israel is going to expel! Found the whipping boys, huh ...

[Plantagenet]

“Forrestal argued that Middle Eastern oil was more important than anything else, and the task of American foreign policy was to provide the armed forces with oil.

“You simply do not understand that there are forty million Arabs,” the minister assured his interlocutors, “four hundred thousand Jews will be pushed into the sea.” And that’s it. Think about oil better - we should be on the oil side. ”

Leonid Mlechin “Why did Stalin create Israel?”

PS It was said before the first Arab-Israeli war. And it is logical to think - indeed, forty million should push four hundred thousand into the sea. But something logic in this case did not work ......

[Binder]

L. Mlechin is a person, of course, capable, but he is not a historian but a journalist, his vision of historical realities is far from reality and his assessments are superficial. The catchy headline "Why did Stalin create Israel?" does not correspond to the truth in the least. Soviet diplomats and representatives of Eastern European states, at Stalin's instructions, really spoke in the UN for the proclamation of Israel's independence, but this was done not out of a desire to provide the Jews with the opportunity to create their own national hearth, but in the intention to resist the British and gain a foothold in the Mediterranean. The logic of the historical process unambiguously testifies to the fact that even without the support of the USSR, the state of Israel would have gained independence, maybe a little later, but inevitably.

[Livonetc]

They are unable to respond with "war along the entire border."
But massive sabotage raids can.

[knn54]

Today, the Kurds are the only force that benefits from the Syrian conflict. They are supported by the United States, and to some extent the Russian Federation. They do not conflict with Assad. Controlling the Syrian-Turkish border, they greatly impede the supply of pro-Turkish rebels.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Once the Turks were already stepping on this rake, probably not enough, they decided to repeat it.
The Kurds for guerrilla warfare are very well trained, hence all the problems the Turks will go.

[Tusv]

Quote: Once the Turks have already stepped on this rake

Once the Turks have already stepped on this rake

This is the third campaign of the Sultanenko against the Kurds. Operations "Shield of Euphrates" and "Olive Branch" were recognized as successful by the Turks. Goals achieved

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Tusv

Quote: Once the Turks have already stepped on this rake

Once the Turks have already stepped on this rake

This is the third campaign of the Sultanenko against the Kurds. Operations "Shield of Euphrates" and "Olive Branch" were recognized as successful by the Turks. Goals achieved

Turks recognized as successful.

That's exactly what the Turks do, and the Kurds say the opposite.

Goals achieved

What goals are achieved, if only losing.

[Tusv]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

What goals are achieved, if only losing.

Shield of the Euphrates - Kurds driven out to the east coast. The Kurds themselves have confirmed this.
Olive Branch - Kurds driven out of Afrin. Here the truth about military victory can hardly be argued. For there were many reports of the presence of the Russian military police, which had to rake that mess

[protoss]

the guerrilla war in Turkey in 2015-16, the RPK lost outright. the Turks killed most of the apochists, the survivors managed to dump in Syria. plus a sympathetic Kurdish peacekeeper got it, which, of course, does not paint the image of the Turkish gendarmerie. in Iraq, now the Turks are again chasing Odzhalanovites - Turkish oporniks all over the north of Iraq, aviation bombing daily. rkkashniki go to the shangal and again to Syria. in Afrin, the Kurds simply failed, they resisted only at first, then the whole defense collapsed.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

the guerrilla war in Turkey in 2015-16, the RPK lost outright.

Won, for this reason, the Turks and retreated and do not argue.

[protoss]

where did they retreat? cleared and Diyarbakir and Dzhizra, etc.
It’s just that the RPK retreated to Syria, and then they built a wall on the border behind the Turks. now you have to dig tunnels to get back.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

This is my personal opinion, and I apologize in advance. Kurds will give themselves in the ass to anyone who will support their desire for self-determination.

[Vadim T.]

No matter how the Turks rattle their weapons, the Kurds will not give them their land for anything. De facto, they do not submit to Turkey, and therefore consider it exclusively as an aggressor. Of course, there won’t be a full-scale war, but partisan warfare will be for sure. The Kurds are well aware that they are going to kill them, so the entire population, from small to large, will resist. They have the most powerful motivation that can be. But the Turks in this situation are ordinary punishers, and they will certainly lose. It is a pity that while it reaches them, a lot of blood will be shed.

[demo]

There will be a very cruel lesson for Kurds.
It was not worth contacting the Americans and staying loyal to Assad.
It will take time and thousands of corpses on both sides.
And then the Kurds will howl, and they will remember that they are citizens of Syria.
Here is the happy end.

Erdogan if bent, then his home-grown Kurds will not sit still.
This fragmented nation seeks reunification.
Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran are Kurdish enclaves.
And they want independence and statehood.
And not one of these countries is interested in this.

[Vadim T.]

Kurds can also be understood. After the collapse of the USSR, the United States became the only center of power. To whom, if not to the amers, they had to address with their problems? Yes, the partner is unreliable, but the Kurds simply had no other options. No, and now. The Turks will not agree on anything with them, they only think of force suppression. But in any case, this is not a solution to the problem. Without respect for the rights of national minorities, there will be no peace in Turkey itself, since Turkish Kurds will certainly resist the authorities after the start of the military operation. So, if they are not granted autonomy, the Kurds will seek the creation of an independent Kurdistan. How events will develop further, now depends on the position of the USA and Russia. They will have to intervene in any way, since the actions of the Turkish authorities may provoke a new round of war in the Middle East.

[demo]

Without respect for the rights of national minorities, the world will not .....
I wish I could agree with you.

[Ramzay121]

"No matter how the Turks rattled their weapons, the Kurds will never give them their land."

To do this, you first need to have this land, and they have been occupied by others in recent years, in search of sponsors, they themselves will not fight, they could have fought in Afrin.

[Grits]

Quote: Vadim T.

No matter how the Turks rattle their weapons, the Kurds will not give them their land for anything.

No arguing against the facts. Show me the Kurds in Afrin. Gave their land, slightly resisting.

[Sergey39]

Commenting on what the Kurds mean by war is a big question. There are many Kurds. Erdogan runs the risk of getting a big terrorist war. Here the S-400 will not help.

[APASUS]

Turkey has a problem with Kurds, the country's population consists of 30% of Kurds. And now, an attempt to get into Syrian Kurdistan does not end with Turkey’s internal problems?

[Terenin]

Something the Kurds did not get along with the First World War, when Turkey "threw" them (in the conflict against the Armenians) and went.
Of course, who will agree to give up part of their territories with oil reserves, incl. Syria, Iraq ..., but to maintain the "fire" it is not even necessary directly, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, to send troops and bomb something. Super-cheap oil gushes from all sides of the conflict: both the Kurds and Iraq are ready to fill tankers for next to nothing, for ammunition and "for food."

[Tsoy]

Photo in an article from the news feed of the Turkish media.

MSB: Third joint ground patrol in eastern Telebad with TAF and US personnel, ground vehicles and unmanned aerial vehicles at the Safe Zone facility in eastern Euphrates in Syria

It's funny The United States supports the Kurds, but conduct joint operations with Turkey.

[gafarovsafar]

then there is a contract. 1 Turks beat the Kurds 2 Kurds howl and flee to Assad 3 Russia supposedly pity the Kurds intervene and persuade Assad to give them autonomy 4 so that the Turks do not rock the boat, create the zone that the Turks want and throw all refugees from the neck there and put the grandmothers from the geyropa in your pocket but if the Kurds beat the Turks the whole plan collapses

[Incvizitor]

What kind of Kurds are we talking about? Subscribed. Or independent?

[Butchcassidy]

Good luck to all Syrians and Kurds in particular in soaping the neck of the Turks!

[Shahno]

Whatever anyone says, a nation, all the more so cohesive and vast as the Kurds, must have its own state (and better so, because we remember how formal autonomies turn out on the example of Russia, not to mention Birobidzhan).
PS. I hope very much that Israel will continue to support the self-determination of the Kurds. It’s not worth forgetting that we also went this way ...

[Shahno]

Quote: rocket757

Yes, this cannot be! So that someone "exceptional" could set up such circumstances that they could not overcome them!
I.e. they don’t catch a crocodile or grow a coconut ... because they cannot cancel Mondays?
Cool.

And why. Look into history until the Kurds of the Turks get jammed, they show power, the states will not come to their aid.
No one will come. They must push themselves, then we will help them.
And then the states will catch up. Well, as always...
PS. With the Turks, we need something directly ..

[Pavel57]

For the sake of 300% profit capitalism will go to any crime.