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US media: In anticipation of negotiations with the DPRK, Trump called the conditions for lifting sanctions

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President of the United States Donald Trump called the conditions for lifting sanctions from Pyongyang. This was reported by Time magazine, citing representatives of the White House.



In anticipation of negotiations with representatives of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, American leader Donald Trump outlined the US position on the Korean issue. In particular, he is ready to remove from Pyongyang the UN sanctions for three years in exchange for the complete dismantling of the nuclear center in Yongbyon.

It is reported that this proposal was made during a special meeting on the future dialogue with the DPRK. During the discussion, various opinions were expressed regarding possible options for the development of the upcoming negotiations. Among other ideas, the idea was also voiced of a possible temporary lifting of sanctions in exchange for a significant step on the part of North Korea. Currently, economic restrictions, among other things, prohibit the export of textile products and coal, which were an important element of Pyongyang's trade relations. The American president supported this concept.

The publication focused on the fact that Trump was not interested in information about the development of DPRK ballistic missiles for submarines: Pyongyang conducted their tests on the eve of negotiations. Despite the voiced data, the head of the White House considered that negotiations should continue despite the fact that Pyongyang continues to develop promising and more dangerous weapons for the United States.

Work talks between North Korea and the United States, according to Yonhap, should begin on October 5: a preliminary meeting will be held the day before. To date, no official confirmation of the start of the negotiation process has been received.
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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 October 2019 07: 31
    +9
    So you look - "Iranian missiles threaten the interests of the United States, North Korean missiles also threaten, the EU space program - too ..." Everything and everyone is hindering them. Some kind of paranoia on a national scale. The orderlies! ...
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 07: 45
      +6
      They (USA) the whole planet interferes with life ....
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 5 October 2019 07: 53
        0
        With the growing influence of Russia and the disastrous US foreign policy, only such opportunities remain to prove themselves at least somehow before the next election.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 5 October 2019 11: 50
          +2
          Trump himself believes that he is able in Washington to remove American sanctions from anyone outside of them at all ?!
          Fresh tradition, but hard to believe!
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 5 October 2019 18: 29
            +1
            But who will allow Trump to lift the sanctions?
            Even if he himself believes it. Rather, he himself is "sanctioned" without waiting for impeachment
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 5 October 2019 10: 38
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        They (USA) the whole planet interferes with life ....

        Not all probably, only those who have an opinion interfere with life ..........
      3. 3danimal
        3danimal 5 October 2019 11: 30
        +2
        Look: who are they? Chicagoans? Normal people, quite friendly (his girlfriend lives there). Or ... Texans? They are "povokboivoy" of course, in hats, but they are normal. Most Americans think little about the surrounding countries, that’s the thing. It is clear that the government behaves from the position of the strongest in the world, relying on diplomatic, military, economic, influence, pushes with its elbows, pushing its interests. But the “candidate for superpower - 2” - China is not far behind.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 11: 32
          0
          "But the 'superpower candidate - 2' - China is not far behind either."
          China does not at least put a spoke in our wheels ...
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 5 October 2019 13: 51
            +2
            While we are not standing in his way ... But in fact, they themselves went to him "as younger friends", deciding to go on the counter with the States. Although it is more sensible to balance between the two largest economies.
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 13: 54
              0
              Quote: 3danimal
              While we are not standing in his way ... But in fact, they themselves went to him "as younger friends", deciding to go on the counter with the States. Although it is more sensible to balance between the two largest economies.

              Well yes. States are all trying to point us. All 90s do not give rest.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 5 October 2019 14: 20
                +2
                Only to us? Analogy: a successful and wealthy resident (always in the company of bodyguards) of an apartment building teaches a hard worker neighbor that he should not drive his wife and children after 9 pm, put garbage bags on the site. Hints that he could leave him without a bonus at work ...
                1. Andrey Chistyakov
                  Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 16: 45
                  0
                  "An analogy: a successful and wealthy resident (always in the company of bodyguards) of an apartment building teaches a neighbor who is a hard worker what his wife is with"
                  I have a neighbor teacher. I don’t know the other two.
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 October 2019 07: 34
    +1
    In all his statements you can hear "Rus, surrender"! It is clear that it is not Russian, it is clear that it is not a German who barks, but "de-ja-vu". Eun didn't disarm. And how can he disarm when they immediately try to crush him? The unification of Koreas is a nightmare for the American economy. True, and the Chinese, apparently, too. laughing
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 5 October 2019 08: 32
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In all his statements you can hear "Rus, surrender"!

      An exceptional nation.
      "04.10.2019
      The US general, Joseph Dunford, unexpectedly told everyone that they really needed to build their military base in Crimea.

      Justifying this with the fact that the Russian Federation stores a huge amount of weapons on the peninsula. In order for Russia not to do anything stupid, the United States must guard this region.

      He also said that only the United States is able to stop the aggression of the Russian Federation. "
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 5 October 2019 14: 12
        -1
        Let's build an economy at least at the level of the UK and consider ourselves exceptional.
        Large (USA, China) do not look very much at the “kids” (diplomacy, economics) in world politics. Even with nuclear weapons.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 5 October 2019 16: 17
          0
          Quote: 3danimal
          Let's build at least the UK economy

          Like ditching the entire industry? Come on, it nafig - such "economy" in the bathhouse.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 34
            0
            I'm on budgets. There are 260 billion, and there are $ 970 billion. The difference is obvious.
            But the industry is different, in North Korea, too. With a budget ... $ 3,2 billion
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 5 October 2019 16: 44
              0
              Quote: 3danimal
              I'm on budgets.

              Grandmas do not solve anything in essence. Only options decide.
              They can’t even make a tank, I don’t even want to talk about aviation. But what a budget.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 49
                +1
                They can buy more tomographs at their hospitals. They can buy expensive aircraft from the Allies.
                And they know how to build and operate aircraft carriers and supporting infrastructure. Warships of rank 1, and build in a reasonable time)
                About tanks: Challenger 2?
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 5 October 2019 16: 56
                  -1
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  About tanks: Challenger 2?

                  There are no new and will not be what was left of the plant to the Germans sold.
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  They can buy expensive aircraft from the Allies.

                  They are buying. At the same time, they become dependent on allies, i.e. give them the opportunity to dictate their terms, I do not see anything good in it.
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  And they know how to build and operate aircraft carriers and

                  The insidious types from Asia strangled the English shipbuilding, however, like the American shipbuilding, it was necessary to somehow support the pants, or even this industry would die.
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 59
                    +1
                    Queen Elizabeth Series of destroyers Daring. How many rank 1 ships have we built in the last 20 years? - they have 6 (in 2003-2013), everything is in order.
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 5 October 2019 17: 10
                      -1
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Queen Elizabeth Series of destroyers Daring.

                      But this is the military. Civilian shish.
                      Destroyers, by the way, these were built a long time ago - in the early 2000s. Now the aircraft carriers have gone, which is unclear why they need them at all, despite the fact that they have a lot of old troughs in service.
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 12
                        +1
                        Pull by the ears. And everything is relative. With whom will you compare?
                      2. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 5 October 2019 17: 20
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Pull by the ears.

                        I do not attract anyone.
                        This is 2014, if that.
                        Due to a reduction in the budget of the country's defense department, military shipbuilding is being curtailed. The Department of Defense and the owner company, BAE Systems, recently announced the termination of three shipyards, including the legendary Portsmouth.
                        According to experts from BAE Systems, shipbuilding in Portsmouth, Rosayte and Filton turned out to be unprofitable due to poor workload. Due to the cessation of production, about 1,7 thousand shipyard employees may be out of work.
                        According to BAE Systems, the construction of warships in the UK will continue, based on economic considerations, at two shipyards near Glasgow - in Haven and Scotstun. At the same time, an enterprise in Portsmouth will stop operations in the second half of next year.

                        Quote: 3danimal
                        With whom will you compare?

                        I can with Ukraine. Is it necessary?
                    2. Andrey Chistyakov
                      Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 13
                      +1
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Queen Elizabeth Series of destroyers Daring. How many rank 1 ships have we built in the last 20 years? - they have 6 (in 2003-2013), everything is in order.

                      They had no "restructuring and acceleration".
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 20
                        +1
                        Excuses.
                        Mentioned 970 billion and are taken from opportunities. What will happen if our central bank simply prints instead of 16900 billion rubles 63000? - The collapse of the course by 3,7 times. They have a similar budget supported by the economy.
                      2. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 21
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Excuses.
                        Mentioned 970 billion and are taken from opportunities. What will happen if our central bank simply prints instead of 16900 billion rubles 63000? - The collapse of the course by 3,7 times. They have a similar budget supported by the economy.

                        As you wish. I will not convince.
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 35
                        +2
                        OK. Germany, 4 world economy. Tell us how bad they are with the industry (and how we do not buy their better trains, turbines, etc.). Well, not serious, the right word.
                      4. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 37
                        -1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        OK. Germany, 4 world economy. Tell us how bad they are with the industry (and how we do not buy their better trains, turbines, etc.). Well, not serious, the right word.

                        Now estimate the population of Germany and the territory. "Serious" You are our ...
                      5. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 5 October 2019 17: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Mentioned 970 billion and are taken from opportunities.

                        No, they come from the royal offshore black hole - the largest in the world by the way. Most of all trade with China goes through it.
                        Riots in Hong Kong are growing from there.
                  2. 3danimal
                    3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 10
                    +1
                    You forgot about tomographs, equipment for children's hospitals, etc. (All complex equipment is bought for currency)
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 5 October 2019 17: 15
                      -1
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      You forgot about tomographs, equipment for children's hospitals, etc.

                      At one time I worked in the Russian branch of an English company engaged in diesel and gas power plants - from small to 2,4 megawatts, since there was practically nothing done in England in them.
                      In Russia, too, Mercedes is collected. wink
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 21
                        0
                        Rolls-Royce. Compare their representative Auto and Aurus.
                      2. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 24
                        0
                        https://youtu.be/1CEWPz_dfq4
                        About the difference and what to strive for
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 31
                        +1
                        A sufficient amount of money for these tomographs may or may not be. Is it really that hard?
                      4. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 5 October 2019 17: 37
                        -1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        A sufficient amount of money for these tomographs,

                        Why did you run into these tomographs? They are now in almost every snuffy clinic.
                      5. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 58
                        +1
                        Not everyone, I assure you. In addition to Moscow, St. Petersburg and regional centers, there are many other cities.
                  3. 3danimal
                    3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 16
                    0
                    They have nowhere closer to the United States; cooperation there be healthy. The same KMP flew for a long time on licensed Harriers, on planes they used Rolls-Royce engines.
                    1. Gray brother
                      Gray brother 5 October 2019 17: 22
                      0
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      The same KMP flew for a long time on licensed Harriers, on planes they used Rolls-Royce engines.

                      Golden was the time, yes. laughing
        2. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 12
          +1
          Quote: 3danimal
          Let's build an economy at least at the level of the UK and consider ourselves exceptional.
          Large (USA, China) do not look very much at the “kids” (diplomacy, economics) in world politics. Even with nuclear weapons.

          Yeah. They tried in the 90s, as "promised." More such "construction" is not necessary.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 22
            0
            Will we remain a poor country with a predominance of budget revenues from the export of raw materials ??
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 23
              0
              Quote: 3danimal
              Will we remain a poor country with a predominance of budget revenues from the export of raw materials ??

              But why. And we build tankers and ships. And much more.
              1. 3danimal
                3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 33
                0
                Here they are, but more in the aggregate. And enough for tomographs, repairs for hospitals.
                We return to my first comment: there is something to strive for.
                1. Andrey Chistyakov
                  Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 34
                  +1
                  Quote: 3danimal
                  Here they are, but more in the aggregate. And enough for tomographs, repairs for hospitals.
                  We return to my first comment: there is something to strive for.

                  You are judging by the comments of the young man yet. We will never be like them.
                  The mentality is neither.
                  1. 3danimal
                    3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 41
                    0
                    Relatively, the last year I am considered a young specialist)
                    I can compare, I do not watch TV.
                    1. Andrey Chistyakov
                      Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 17: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Relatively, the last year I am considered a young specialist)
                      I can compare, I do not watch TV.

                      Well, you see. I was not mistaken. Do not hope for the West. Have tried.
                      Did not work out. You have to go your own way.
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 09
                        -1
                        Nobody owes us anything. But nobody canceled the cooperation. It is necessary to develop.
                        Which one? There was Gosplan - a dead end. When innovations were introduced by a regulation of the Council of Ministers. They didn’t come up with anything better than competitive capitalism. A vivid example is the rise of China.
                      2. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Nobody owes us anything. But nobody canceled the cooperation. It is necessary to develop.
                        Which one? There was Gosplan - a dead end. When innovations were introduced by a regulation of the Council of Ministers. They didn’t come up with anything better than competitive capitalism. A vivid example is the rise of China.

                        Well yes. Who is applying sanctions to us ?! For development and cooperation?
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 22
                        -1
                        So, too, for increasing the living area, (we have overpopulation). They say that it’s impossible now, here are the sanctions for you.
                      4. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 24
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        So, too, for increasing the living area, (we have overpopulation). They say that it’s impossible now, here are the sanctions for you.

                        We have returned our. Not a stranger. The coup d'etat was not necessary.
                        And what about the US sanctions for China ?! Also "taken away" from whom the territory?
                      5. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 32
                        -1
                        Staged a coup d'etat? Cookies? Ah, they told you so on TV ... But I didn’t watch it)
                        And there are rules that we violated, by right of the strong. For which they "were left without a prize."
                        China has been engaged in industrial espionage for a long time, taking a fair amount of profit from a number of American companies (research is expensive, and stealing it is cheaper, which affects the cost of the final product). A new president came with the slogan “America first” and took measures to protect local corporations, fulfilling promises.
                      6. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Staged a coup d'etat? Cookies? Ah, they told you so on TV ... But I didn’t watch it)
                        And there are rules that we violated, by right of the strong. For which they "were left without a prize."
                        China has been engaged in industrial espionage for a long time, taking a fair amount of profit from a number of American companies (research is expensive, and stealing it is cheaper, which affects the cost of the final product). A new president came with the slogan “America first” and took measures to protect local corporations, fulfilling promises.

                        You are absolutely that. What followed the coup ?! 15 tons of lives are gone !!!.
                        Diluted demagoguery here !!! Here you are all liberals. In the 90s they also promised, as well as the "neighbors" now. They are "happy" go. Okay-your blah blah blah tired. Learn materiel. "Young" specialist. Do not be ill.
                      7. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 44
                        -1
                        My analogy: Donbas for Ukraine - Chechnya for the Russian Federation. How many people died (on both sides!) During 2 campaigns ?? Now imagine that, say, Turkey, would provide serious support to co-religionists (weapons, armored vehicles, military experts). How many more victims would there be?
                      8. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 47
                        -1
                        In the 90s, I studied at the gymnasium)
                        The desire to paint everyone with one paint, to simplify, comes from a lack of intellectual capacities, difficulties to keep several topics in mind. Training helps a lot.
                      9. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 17
                        -1
                        How old is the official age bracket for a young specialist ??
                      10. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 19
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        How old is the official age bracket for a young specialist ??

                        You try to be consistent. Download from topic to topic.
                      11. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 24
                        0
                        Just like you.
                        “Here they are, but more in the aggregate. And enough for tomographs, repairs for hospitals.
                        We return to my first comment: there is something to strive for.

                        You are judging by the comments of the young man yet. We will never be like them. ”
                        Not finding what to essentially answer, we switched to a discussion of ages.
                      12. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 26
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Just like you.
                        “Here they are, but more in the aggregate. And enough for tomographs, repairs for hospitals.
                        We return to my first comment: there is something to strive for.

                        You are judging by the comments of the young man yet. We will never be like them. ”
                        Not finding what to essentially answer, we switched to a discussion of ages.

                        Well, you come to your senses. Where did I write a word about tomographs ?! Huh?
                      13. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 34
                        0
                        I wrote about tomographs and a larger volume of ship construction. And you - about age. And no specifics.
                  2. 3danimal
                    3danimal 5 October 2019 17: 59
                    0
                    Won't we be a rich country? It is necessary to change the mentality then.
                    1. Andrey Chistyakov
                      Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 04
                      +1
                      Quote: 3danimal
                      Won't we be a rich country? It is necessary to change the mentality then.

                      Yeah. Came already. Napoleon in 1812 - Hitler in 1941. Always the same. Received and left.
                      There is nothing to climb into a strange monastery with its charter. This is what it is called.
                      1. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 18
                        0
                        Are you on your own wave ???
                        And where is Napoleon? Reread again.
                      2. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 21
                        0
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Are you on your own wave ???
                        And where is Napoleon? Reread again.

                        With everything. He also wanted to bring "civilization" to the West. I explain it on my fingers. Change the mentality.
                      3. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 25
                        -1
                        Nothing like this. Representation at the level of an elderly villager, honestly ...
                        Learn the question better.
                      4. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 28
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        Nothing like this. Representation at the level of an elderly villager, honestly ...
                        Learn the question better.

                        Why do YOU ​​communicate with a "simple" villager?
                      5. 3danimal
                        3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 34
                        -1
                        A ray of hope that a little scatter the darkness)
                        You can study, study, at any age
                      6. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 5 October 2019 18: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: 3danimal
                        A ray of hope that a little scatter the darkness)
                        You can study, study, at any age

                        Nothing will help you along the way. Good luck.
                      7. 3danimal
                        3danimal 6 October 2019 11: 13
                        0
                        Campaign, mutually)
                        And advice: learn the story. According to scientific works, and not all Prokhanovs and Starikovs there.
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 5 October 2019 14: 07
      0
      If Severnaya will absorb (only by military means, by using nuclear weapons) the South, then it will “lower” it to its level of efficiency in the economy and production. The first has a budget of 3,2 billion, the second - 351 billion. After the merger, it is good if there is $ 180 billion.
      1. bayard
        bayard 5 October 2019 17: 01
        -1
        It will be 500, then 600, and so in a few (up to a dozen years) up to a trillion.
        Quote: 3danimal
        If the North absorbs (only by military means, by the use of nuclear weapons) the South

        This will not happen, unless the South Caucasus attacks along with the United States. If not for the United States, they would have united long ago. And they would shut up Japan for a belt on economic indicators.
        1. 3danimal
          3danimal 5 October 2019 18: 05
          -1
          Are you talking about the Republic of Korea? And I'm talking about the results of a hypothetical capture of its DPRK.
          Economic indicators are tied to the structure of the economy. The local version of the State Planning Commission (torn by dogma and dictate) is inferior to the competitive capitalist Southern neighbor.
          1. bayard
            bayard 6 October 2019 01: 40
            -1
            Quote: 3danimal
            The local version of the State Planning Commission (torn by dogma and dictate) is inferior to the competitive capitalist Southern neighbor.

            You tell the Chinese this, then they will laugh.
            S. Korea has problems with the economy because of the sanctions that are stifling it, and not because of the inefficiency of the system. The effectiveness of their system has proven success in the defense industry and survivability of the regime. The strengths of both Koreas will give a synergistic effect of a cumulative nature - cheap labor of the north and technology of the south + natural resources of the North Caucasus - rare earth, coal and ... gas pipe from the Russian Federation.
            And no war is required, just the country will reunite. Moreover, the political leadership of the north will harmoniously complement the economic leadership of the south. A powerful army and nuclear weapons will ensure their sovereignty.
            And only the USA interfere with this popular happiness. Like everywhere in the world.
            1. 3danimal
              3danimal 6 October 2019 07: 29
              +1
              But in China, capitalism. Did you not know? People create their own companies and, having gained the upper hand in competition, get richer. The same Jack Ma with Ali.
              An ineffective example is the USSR, with criminal articles for entrepreneurship (Jack would have sat down for 7 years).
              1. bayard
                bayard 6 October 2019 11: 52
                -1
                Quote: 3danimal
                But in China, capitalism. Did you not know?

                There, the convergence of the two systems - they took all the best from each - state planning of key industries, goal-setting for the whole economy at CPC congresses and freedom of entrepreneurship. Almost like that when it was under Stalin in the USSR.
                Quote: 3danimal
                An ineffective example is the USSR, with criminal articles for entrepreneurship (Jack would have sat down for 7 years).

                It was already the USSR Khrushchev-Brezhnev. And under Stalin, some peasants (not on the collective farm) at their own expense built planes and tanks for the Red Army during the Second World War. And by the way, the famous design bureaus Mil and Kamov were originally created as COOPERATIVES and, having received a state order, developed their first helicopters. Did not hear?
                TOTAL state ownership of the means of production turned out to be ineffective. And China copied and developed the NAME OF STALIN ECONOMIC MODEL.
                1. 3danimal
                  3danimal 6 October 2019 16: 58
                  +1
                  A lot of "rumors". Some peasants (and also factory workers) threw off MONEY to pay for the production of an additional tank or aircraft.
                  There was a dogmatic attitude: all means of production should be in state ownership (at the disposal of officials, we remember their motivation).
                  We recall that it was under Stalin that the NEP and private industries were tightly covered. There was a trifle in the "artels".
                  The Stalinist model was in China under Mao. After his death, Xiaoping changed the paradigm (“it doesn’t matter what color the horse is if it rides well”). And everything went well.
                  We will not forget about the creation of attractive conditions and iron guarantees for investors who transferred production there, investing tremendous funds and bringing in a lot of technologies.
                  Yes, elements of planning have been preserved, but management methods of Western companies have been taken.
                  As practice has shown, financial motivation is the most effective. With an orderly (compliance with rules and laws), private production in a competitive environment - we get an abundance of goods and services, and those who succeed - receive well-deserved financial success.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 5 October 2019 07: 38
    +1
    And without conditions, can sanctions be lifted? To show a gesture of goodwill? smile Show peace? smile
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 5 October 2019 08: 08
      +4
      Quote: parusnik
      And without conditions, can sanctions be lifted? To show a gesture of goodwill? Show peace?

      Present smallpox infected blankets? Already been.
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 5 October 2019 09: 24
        +2
        Quote: Kuroneko
        Present smallpox infected blankets? Already been.

        And do as Gaddafi and Hussein!
        1. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 5 October 2019 09: 26
          +2
          I would still advise Milosevic not to forget.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 53
            -1
            Is this when the US conquered the Serbs, or what? They made ... a state and introduced slavery?
            The fate of the “leader” does not give the whole picture.
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 38
        -1
        Let us recall how, on the orders of Menshikov, peasants were slaughtered in Finnish villages to annoy Karl 12 (18th century, beginning). You can delve into the Stone Age, when the ancestors of all people practiced cannibalism. How to live with the awareness of this ?? Now everything is different, civilization, the evolution of society
  4. eagle owl
    eagle owl 5 October 2019 07: 39
    +3
    for three yearsin exchange for complete dismantling nuclear center in yongbyon.

    They’ll send him to Yonben feel
    1. Sergei 23
      Sergei 23 5 October 2019 07: 54
      +3
      And they’ll send him to Yonben. And this happens more and more often. They will get used to it soon.
      1. notingem
        notingem 5 October 2019 22: 49
        0
        Do not get used to it and like it
  5. Mouse
    Mouse 5 October 2019 07: 54
    +1
    Of course, the condition is ... how can the states without conditions do something ... and the conditions must be set so that they are impossible ... no sanctions will have to be lifted ....
  6. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 5 October 2019 07: 57
    0
    And who now needs all this, go for such deals? if the DPRK and under the sanctions managed to live and achieve its desired result.
    1. 3danimal
      3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 55
      +1
      He managed to survive, with the support of China undercover. There, people are malnourished (one fat man for the whole of the DPRK) and 20 years ago they died of hunger.
  7. Van 16
    Van 16 5 October 2019 07: 59
    0
    Does anyone believe in US promises? Especially in such slippery ones, about the "possible"! "temporal"!
  8. Vadim T.
    Vadim T. 5 October 2019 08: 02
    0
    The presence of nuclear weapons for Pyongyang is the only guarantee of survival and the preservation of independence. So Trump is unlikely to achieve anything in the negotiations. But bidding, of course, will be. In the East, without them it is impossible.
    1. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 5 October 2019 08: 24
      0
      Quote: Vadim T.
      The presence of nuclear weapons for Pyongyang is the only guarantee of survival and the preservation of independence.

      In fairness, not the only one. There is also a non-nuclear guarantee (although it’s violet to the States, they will hand over South Korea with pleasure, and even consider it a profitable exchange) - the DPRK simply has an incredible amount of barrel artillery, which is also reliably hidden in the system of mountain tunnels and bunkers. And all of it easily extends to Seoul (only 24 km to the border). South Koreans know this very well, and therefore do not rock the boat.
      1. Vadim T.
        Vadim T. 5 October 2019 09: 37
        +1
        South Koreans will not rock the boat. They have a common language, mentality and culture with North Korean citizens. Moreover, they are already aware of the need to unite the peninsula into one state. Yes, the South Korean authorities can’t do this yet due to US pressure, but they won’t take the trouble, as in the beginning of the 1950’s. Times are not the same. But I actually wrote about something else - about guarantees of preserving independence. You, dear Kuroneko, are not surprised why many states try to acquire their own nuclear weapons? Run into the most severe sanctions, like Iran or North Korea, for example, but stubbornly go to the intended goal? I answer: in order to reliably protect myself from the creeps of the hegemon and its satellites. And what happened to those states that relied, as you say, on long-range artillery? Recall what happened to Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, now Syria? Therefore, Russia is also investing in the creation of new types of weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons in order to cool the ardor of overseas warriors.
        1. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 5 October 2019 09: 49
          -1
          Quote: Vadim T.
          You, dear Kuroneko, are not surprised why many states try to acquire their own nuclear weapons? Run into the most severe sanctions, like Iran or North Korea, for example, but stubbornly go to the intended goal?

          Open secret.
          I would now focus more on that bullshit, thanks to which Israel could acquire its nuclear weapons. According to the official version, the States have nothing to do with it, these are all brilliant Jewish spies - they outwitted, damn it, all the special services of the superpower. In short, they made a Mercedes on the Zaporozhets as a standing one, and the owner of the Mercedes even fell out of his hand in surprise.
          And what happened to those states that relied, as you say, on long-range artillery?

          There is a separate calico. If the States start a war with the DPRK, they will certainly try to weave (at least as a pretext) South Korea. It is also desirable that on the ground the South Koreans fought and died. The presence of art at the throat of Seoul already puts the UK in a stalemate and reluctance to dance to the tune of Amer. And again, I said that yes - the United States spit on the South Caucasus, but because of this, they could not set the South Caucasus on the DPRK.
          Therefore, Russia is also investing in the creation of new types of weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons in order to cool the ardor of overseas warriors.

          Useless. War is to BE. This is very clear. The modern elites of the West are already too ignorant and generally live on some kind of globe of their own, not taking the "hot nuclear" conflict seriously. Well, on the other hand, they have nowhere to go - capitalism as a system is becoming obsolete. There are no longer those on the planet who can be plundered culturally, civilized for beads made of glass beads. We need a hard reset, which can only be achieved by another global world war. And the elite hopes to sit out this time too. So all these strengthening of nuclear capabilities are a maximum delay of several years, but no more. War is to BE. We are already living in fact in the atmosphere of the second half of the 30s of the twentieth century. On a powder keg. The only question is when it will explode and who will be more prepared at that moment.
          These are such sad things.
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 56
      0
      This is a guarantee for the Kim dynasty and their entourage.
  9. EDWARD
    EDWARD 5 October 2019 08: 20
    +1
    US national interests, THERE IS ANYWHERE WHERE THERE IS USEFUL FOSSILS. which means, on the basis of this .. a request to all the inhabitants of planet Earth. urgently evacuate to some kind of uninhabited planet!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 5 October 2019 08: 46
      +2
      Planet "Shelezyaka" - no water, no minerals .... nothing!
      Is it there?
    2. 3danimal
      3danimal 5 October 2019 16: 58
      +1
      The United States now ranks first in hydrocarbon exports. Such a poor country of minerals))
      Try to take propaganda critical
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 5 October 2019 08: 44
    0
    Negotiations, lifting sanctions, are necessary and important!
    Currently, Kim has reached the level of "don't touch me, otherwise ... !!!"
    Improved, open trading conditions will not hurt anyone.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 October 2019 09: 00
    +1
    Starred and lost a sense of elementary measure finally and not without the help of their puppets. They impose sanctions, as a rule, without any coordination with the UN, for all those who do not want to fall under them. Then unacceptable conditions are put forward for their removal, knowing full well that they will not. And so for decades. When will the world finally impose sanctions on the United States, and then put forward its own conditions for their possible lifting?
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 5 October 2019 09: 28
      0
      DPRK imposed UNO sanctions.
      And Russia officially supports them.
      1. Kuroneko
        Kuroneko 5 October 2019 11: 02
        0
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        And Russia officially supports them.

        Keyword - officially.
  12. Kontrik
    Kontrik 5 October 2019 09: 35
    0
    Trump is still the only president who has not yet smeared himself with the "blood of a little war" .... Do not give in to Donald's Jewish lobby in Congress ... Although Eun is a tyrant, you can negotiate with him, however, just like with other countries ..
    There, Donald is already preparing an impeachment hehe heh. Do not give in to Trump !!! hi
  13. Amateur
    Amateur 5 October 2019 09: 36
    -1
    Donald Trump outlined the US position on the Korean issue. In particular, he is ready to lift UN sanctions against Pyongyang for three years
    Well that's it! Impeachment guaranteed. Trump "sold his homeland." wassat
  14. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 5 October 2019 10: 22
    +1
    The US does not regularly fulfill its obligations under various treaties. They cannot be trusted. Cheat. Moreover, fraud is already laid in the very proposed conditions. Sanctions are lifted temporarily. And then, in the best traditions of American diplomacy, after the DPRK fulfills its obligations, they will launch sanctions on a new one.
  15. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 5 October 2019 10: 29
    0
    It is necessary to annually release 2 globes 1 USA, and the other Ukraine.
  16. 3danimal
    3danimal 5 October 2019 11: 30
    -1
    As for Iran and the DPRK (the letter “D” touches in combination, not having a real relation to the political system): the history of a large-scale 2MB with millions of victims shows that dictatorial regimes with a strong army (or superweapon - nuclear weapons) are dangerous (they can be unleashed). Which are the regime of Islamic fundamentalists in Iran and left fundamentalists in the North. Korea.
    They do not depend on their subjects, possible losses among them do not affect decision-making. They can fear only the loss of power and their own death.
  17. Old26
    Old26 5 October 2019 14: 09
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Trump himself believes that he is able in Washington to remove American sanctions from anyone outside of them at all ?!
    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe!

    In principle, he can take it off, but the preconditions put forward by the American side are a priori impossible.

    Quote: Kuroneko
    North Korea simply has an incredible amount of barrel artillery, which is also reliably hidden in the system of mountain tunnels and bunkers. And all of it easily extends to Seoul (only 24 km to the border).

    You’re right, comrade, they have dofig trunks. That's just most of them still do not penetrate to Seoul. And then, what is Seoul? This is an agglomeration with dimensions of approximately 50x60 km. To the outskirts, the former cities that are now part of Greater Seoul, they can shoot through. To the center, where all the vital centers are concentrated (governments, ministries, banks and other infrastructure) - they shoot through units. Especially considering that the DMZ’s width is about 5 km in each direction, and these shelters (positions) are not on the DMZ border itself, but still a little in depth, about 5 kilometers. That is, at best, the artillery will be moved away by 10 km
    In addition, talking about this we often lose sight of two positions. You can store (hide) in rock masses. But firing is problematic. Especially long-range large-caliber artillery. She will have to focus all on a narrow section of the front. In addition, it is unlikely that the southerners will sit and calmly watch the northerners concentrate a lot of artillery against them

    Quote: Vadim T.
    South Koreans will not rock the boat. They have a common language, mentality and culture with North Korean citizens.

    It all depends on the situation. They have a lot in common, but there are also significant differences. Southerners are not used to living in a state of dictatorship. If you live in peace, go to work, buy yourself any things, any products, you can travel all over the world and then instead of this you will be offered a "salary" ten times less, instead of buying any things and any products - the distribution system and ration of 300-400 g of grain a day, a ban on leaving at your request - I think they will "rock the boat" ...

    Quote: Vadim T.
    Does it not surprise you why many states try to acquire their own nuclear weapons? Run into the most severe sanctions, like Iran or North Korea, for example, but stubbornly go to the intended goal? I answer: in order to reliably protect myself from the creeps of the hegemon and its satellites.

    Own nuclear weapons will be a means of protection against encroachments, provided there is a lot of it, as well as delivery vehicles. Then yes, knowing that his cities may be subject to a massive nuclear strike - for the hegemon it will be a "brake". But when you have a dozen nuclear warheads and a dozen missiles capable of reaching the hegemon's territory, this will not stop him. Moreover, note that now nuclear weapons are trying to acquire countries headed by leaders with sometimes unpredictable behavior. But then everything can be very simple. Such a country (or rather a leader) can be provoked into the use of nuclear weapons, and then bombed into the Stone Age. This option is also possible. And at the same time, a small number of nuclear weapons will not save these countries

    Quote: Vadim T.
    Recall what happened to Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, now Syria? Therefore, Russia is also investing in the creation of new types of weapons capable of carrying nuclear weapons in order to cool the ardor of overseas warriors

    Yes it was. And again, at the forefront was either inadequate leadership or internal contradictions, for which there was enough a lit match
  18. Alexander X
    Alexander X 5 October 2019 14: 30
    0
    Sanctions will be removed, the center will be dismantled, sanctions will be imposed again, and try to restore the center. The trumpet seems to hold Koreans for suckers (not a mat) ... But little Korean friends are far from stupid ...
  19. Old26
    Old26 5 October 2019 16: 46
    +3
    Quote: Alexander X
    Sanctions will be removed, the center will be dismantled, sanctions will be imposed again, and try to restore the center. The trumpet seems to hold Koreans for suckers (not a mat) ... But little Korean friends are far from stupid ...

    They had already stopped the Yonben reactor twice and began to dismantle it. but for the third time it’s unlikely that such a number will be held by the Americans
  20. Lexus
    Lexus 5 October 2019 19: 20
    -4
    In anticipation of negotiations with the DPRK, Trump called terms

    - Who are you?
    - Donald Trump, President of the United States!
    - Bye Bye!

    bully
  21. kit88
    kit88 8 October 2019 00: 14
    +4
    Trump offers to give up