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Military Watch calls Chinese hypersonic UAV bad news for US Navy

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The People's Liberation Army of China (PLA) introduced a number of new models of promising military equipment during a large-scale parade on Tiananmen Square, dedicated to the 70 anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China and the end of the Chinese civil war. Military Watch believes that despite the fact that most military publications have devoted their editorials to the new long-range supersonic intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), attention should be paid primarily to the smaller WZ-8 hypersonic unmanned aerial vehicles.




Long-range supersonic ICBMs have been allegedly in service with the PLA since 2017. Although the carrier can deliver nuclear warheads further, faster, in large quantities and with greater reliability than its predecessors, it nonetheless represents the development of a traditional nuclear triad.

In turn, the WZ-8 represents a new step in the development of tactical weapons and, in the long term, can repeatedly strengthen the military power of China. The magazine writes that it is not known whether such a system was ever in service anywhere in the world. It is only known that the United States currently has its own program to develop a similar drone in the framework of the SR-72 project.

Looks like a MiG-25


Military Watch emphasizes that the WZ-8 is “very similar to the American Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird and Lockheed A-12 (high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft), as well as the Soviet high-altitude interceptor MiG-25”, designed for flights at extreme speeds and altitudes and is capable of completing both reconnaissance and strike missions. He, according to the publication, is “bad news for the United States Navy. "

Reportedly, the WZ-8 PLA, already deployed in the Air Force, combined with China’s significant satellite resources, provides Beijing with a reliable intelligence and guidance system. It is believed that a promising drone can both barrage and move at speeds from 6 to 7 sound, which means that it is almost impossible to shoot down with conventional means - even without factors such as electronic warfare.

WZ-8 gives the PLA the ability to accurately target heavy missiles even if the satellite constellation of China becomes disabled. Which means the opportunity to strike at US carrier groups. Although the WZ-8 is not, by and large, a percussion device, it can greatly contribute to reducing the survivability of the American fleet in the region and greatly complicates operations for the US Navy in East Asia.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 4 October 2019 11: 03
    +12
    I doubt that this is a hypersonic drone. I believe that supersonic. In our time today, freely scattered by concepts as hypersound.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 October 2019 11: 05
      +9
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      I doubt that this is a hypersonic drone. I believe that supersonic. In our time today, freely scattered by concepts as hypersound.
      the layout is similar.
    2. Karabas
      Karabas 4 October 2019 11: 44
      +1
      You're right. WZ-8 is not hypersonic. However, depending on what altitudes, in this case all the satellites since our 1957 are hypersonic. Here's a pun, you know, a pun, however. The main thing is that it’s impossible to blame true, but from the other end. laughing But he will not be able to attack someone, because at the entrance to the troposphere in hypersound, such a structure will crumble.
    3. yehat
      yehat 4 October 2019 11: 57
      +1
      for hyper-Chinese hypersound, everything is logical.
    4. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 October 2019 12: 01
      +2
      The Chinese have their own hypersonic criteria that are different from global ones. ..
      1. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 4 October 2019 12: 35
        +2
        R.M.R.Oh hypersonic? laughing
    5. yehat
      yehat 4 October 2019 12: 05
      0
      something tells me that this is a small tweak to the file of the overclocking module from the hammer project
    6. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 4 October 2019 12: 06
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      I doubt that this is a hypersonic drone. I believe that supersonic. In our time today, freely scattered by concepts as hypersound.

      I "warmly" agree with you! Moreover, this "sensational" drone is sometimes called "hypersonic", then "supersonic" in various articles! Judging by the appearance of the UAV, one would rather believe in a supersonic drone than in a "hypersonic" one! By the way, I remember how in the first reports about the creation of the Moskit anti-ship missiles, Pantsir-S missiles, and Sosna-R missiles, these missiles were called “hypersonic”!
    7. avdkrd
      avdkrd 4 October 2019 13: 30
      +2
      Precisely, its aerodynamic design is not like hypersonic. Two nozzles generally involve two engines. Two Chinese forward-flow guides on the same machine ???! It may be some kind of crossover glider on a solid-fuel engine with launch from an air carrier, but the wing area is too large, it contradicts hypersound.
    8. Strashila
      Strashila 4 October 2019 13: 45
      +1
      Yes, there is no question with hypersound; visually supplement the device with a rocket accelerator. He uncovers to the desired speed and altitude, the UAV propulsion system, to maintain speed and maneuver. And according to the fastening elements from above, it can be suspended by an aircraft carrier, as an option.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 4 October 2019 11: 04
    +2
    Military Watch calls Chinese hypersonic UAV bad news for US Navy

    Are there many news in the world that minke whales will consider good for their own?
    Although there is such a! The WTO so wants to bend the Gayropeyskie in favor of the Boeing, what can ... but let's see what they get. Who is whipping someone!
    For us, it is odd, who and on whom !!!
    1. eagle owl
      eagle owl 4 October 2019 11: 06
      +5
      Yes, the life of the mattresses in the strip is now a black stripe ... Then brown with the Patriots ... Now, in general, blue will begin after the sanctions with Europe winked
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 October 2019 11: 10
        +2
        Zebras, she is also a zebra in Africa ....
        It's just that we immediately remember about the furry northern animal .... specifics.
        1. aszzz888
          aszzz888 4 October 2019 12: 15
          +1
          rocket757 (Victor) Today, 11: 10
          +2
          Zebras, she is also a zebra in Africa ...

          Oh, and the "zebra" at the Merikatos !!! wink
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 October 2019 12: 21
            +1
            Quote: aszzz888
            Oh, and the "zebra" at the Merikatos !!!

            NEWS of the last hour! Geyropa "received approval" from the WTO for retaliatory sanctions towards minke whales !!!
            This is how to understand the bureaucrats from the WTO ??? Neither ours nor yours! However, the consumer will pay FOR ANYTHING!
            It would be cool, but for some reason it’s not funny.
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 4 October 2019 12: 38
              +1
              rocket757 (Victor) Today, 12: 21
              0
              Quote: aszzz888
              Oh, and the "zebra" at the Merikatos !!!

              NEWS of the last hour! Geyropa "received approval" from the WTO for retaliatory sanctions towards minke whales !!!
              This is how to understand the bureaucrats from the WTO ??? Neither ours nor yours! However, the consumer will pay FOR ANYTHING!
              It would be cool, but for some reason it’s not funny.

              Something is brewing between the meerkathos and the europa. wink
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 4 October 2019 12: 45
                +2
                Quote: aszzz888
                Something is brewing between the meerkathos and the europa.

                Do not fuck, NOT ???
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 4 October 2019 11: 26
        +4
        Uhu Today, 11: 06
        +1
        Yes, mattresses now have their whole life striped - a black stripe... Then brown with the Patriots ... Now generally the blue will begin after the sanctions with Europe winked

        Taki yes, flooded the stomp from the mericatos. wink Well, and share! good
  3. stels_07
    stels_07 4 October 2019 11: 12
    +2
    Wingtips do not particularly indicate hypersound
  4. Shooter22
    Shooter22 4 October 2019 11: 13
    +8
    This is not a hypersonic aircraft for sure. I still agree with the name "supersonic unmanned rocket plane". Judging by the published photos, there are generally doubts that these are real flying samples. We all know how the Chinese know how to make a "tasty wrapper" (at least in the auto industry). So - not a fact, not a fact ...
    1. eagle owl
      eagle owl 4 October 2019 11: 19
      0
      Yes, and this is not a fact. At the top of the fuselage, two ears for the suspension you see? Most likely hanged under the plane. No matter how it turned out to be something like a CD. What a super-long-range thread.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 October 2019 11: 18
    +2
    And so that the news about weapons systems does not seem bad for the Americans, you just need to not interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign countries and not threaten them from across the ocean in the hope that nothing threatens your country (USA). He does not boast of his "strength", does not indiscriminately brandish a sanctioning club. The Americans have already silenced the whole world, and at the same time, with sadness and internal tension, they observe how the armed forces are developing in Russia, China and other countries not subject to their influence.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 4 October 2019 11: 29
      0
      rotmistr60 (Gennady) Today, 11: 18 And ​​so that news about weapons systems does not seem bad for Americans, you just need not to interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign countries and not threaten them from across the ocean in the hope that your country (United States) will not threatens.

      Will the obvious reach the mericatos? I doubt it. request Maybe sometime in the future ... request
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 October 2019 11: 25
    -3
    In appearance, it is supersonic.
    In hypersound, such wings will quickly burn out.
  7. Ded60
    Ded60 4 October 2019 11: 28
    +2
    "... supersonic intercontinental ballistic missile ..." Author, do you know anything about subsonic intercontinental ballistic missiles?
  8. Nycomed
    Nycomed 4 October 2019 11: 32
    0
    The MiG-25 can only be similar to the MiG-31. And that’s it. lol
  9. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 4 October 2019 11: 49
    0
    more like a space plane
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  11. mark1
    mark1 4 October 2019 11: 58
    0
    Probably the development of Lockheed D-21, they kind of fell in China.
  12. Last centurion
    Last centurion 4 October 2019 12: 20
    +1
    this thing must obviously have a booster. otherwise, judging by the size, the rocket engines, and not the gpvrd (which means they “roll” the oxidizer with them), it will fly away not far, judging by the size, and this is clearly something above 35 km, again judging by the rocket engines, but below 80 (otherwise, what for her wings winglets). the color of blue would be a strange choice for a hypersonic apparatus .. most likely no more than 5 Machs. If I were the Chinese, I would have stuffed it on the back of a ransomed or localized "Mriya"
  13. Tusv
    Tusv 4 October 2019 12: 31
    0
    Looks like a MiG-25
    Military Watch emphasizes that the WZ-8 is “very similar to the American Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird

    Yes, do not care. The main thing from the Thirty-first is not to run away and not to leave. The only three-swing in the ranks and Drozda sent to retire.
  14. aries2200
    aries2200 4 October 2019 12: 38
    0
    according to the Chinese metric system (1000 parrots)
  15. Kettle
    Kettle 4 October 2019 13: 14
    +1
    In this article, everything is fine - and “long-range supersonic ICBMs” - oil is oiled, and “can repeatedly (!) Strengthen the military power of China”, and “can both barrage and travel at speeds from 6 to 7 sound” ...
    Barrage with such aerodynamics - well, very original. Indeed, a couple, it seems, of rocket engines (you can’t see the air intakes for turbojet turbojet engines, not even any covers on the belly), they will probably try to disperse it to 6 M, but by definition they will not work for long - and how to continue to fly and reconnoit? If this is a turbojet engine, they will not be dispersed to hypersound.
    Direct-flow scramjet would be suitable for a hypersonic scout, but here you can’t even see anything close, neither an entrance nor an exit. In the original article, by the way, besides the SR-71 and for some reason the Mig-25 (?), Military Watch writes about the similarity of the Chinese to the casual SR-72 mentioned in our translation. So it’s just that it is a hypersonic reconnaissance project, and indeed the WZ-8 is remotely similar to it (approximately like a children's plastic dump truck to the original). It is unclear whether the Americans will succeed in the SR-72, the main feature in it is not the scramjet itself, but an attempt to combine it with the turbojet engine in the same building, in order to refuse the racers.

    The layout shown by the Chinese is generally very similar to the layout.
  16. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 4 October 2019 13: 29
    0
    Given the fact that there are no air intakes on the model (model) of the UAV - i.e. installed rocket engines (apparently LRE) flight range without using the upper stage or air-based - will be scanty.
    Judging by the possible volume of fuel tanks, the range is not more than 300-370 km when starting from an air carrier ..
  17. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 4 October 2019 13: 32
    0

    The Chinese are generally masters of prototyping - here is a photo of the tank in a museum near Shanghai.
    Only a closer look reveals that this is a layout. And it’s true - do not put military equipment in museums.
  18. Mentat
    Mentat 4 October 2019 13: 40
    0
    attention should be paid primarily to the smaller in size hypersonic unmanned aerial vehicles WZ-8.

    WZ-8 is not a hypersonic device, which is clearly seen in the photo.
    VO should take a more responsible approach to the reliability of published information.
  19. Old26
    Old26 4 October 2019 13: 42
    +2
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    I doubt that this is a hypersonic drone. I believe that supersonic. In our time today, freely scattered by concepts as hypersound.

    So the commentator at the parade (and there are comments in Russian on the network) spoke of this apparatus as a supersonic reconnaissance apparatus. And with a flat nozzle - that shock. This one, which in the photo has, in addition to the designation WZ-8 "Uchshen", also the designation DR-8. But the percussion, somewhat reminiscent of our "Hunter" has the designation GJ-11 "Tongji-11 (the second name is" Lijian ")

    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    I doubt that this is a hypersonic drone. I believe that supersonic. In our time today, freely scattered by concepts as hypersound.
    the layout is similar.

    Maybe not a layout. Do not assume that all that the Chinese show is crap, plywood. Something is possible and shown as a layout, but not everything

    Quote: Ded60
    "... supersonic intercontinental ballistic missile ..." Author, do you know anything about subsonic intercontinental ballistic missiles?

    Comrade, because it sounds "more weighty" than just an intercontinental ballistic missile. And it would be even more significant if the author wrote a "hypersonic" intercontinental ballistic missile.
    Recently I generally read I don’t remember in what topic the pearl. It was a question of intercontinental missiles of long, medium and short range laughing

    Quote: fruit_cake
    more like a space plane

    Well, it looks like "Dainu Sor" only with wingtips
  20. Berkut24
    Berkut24 4 October 2019 14: 19
    0
    In hypersound, such bearing planes are not needed. And the engine is certainly not a straightforward one. Maximum supersonic ...
  21. 501Legion
    501Legion 4 October 2019 16: 02
    0
    transported models
  22. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 4 October 2019 16: 34
    0
    Military Watch emphasizes that the WZ-8 is “very similar to the American Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird and Lockheed A-12 (high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft), as well as the Soviet high-altitude interceptor MiG-25”
    Umotat ... And how MiG-25 is similar to SR-71 and A-12 ... Just twin brothers. You can only distinguish by the color of the stars ...
  23. Maksut Nurgaliyev
    Maksut Nurgaliyev 4 October 2019 23: 31
    0
    China may, as before, during the USSR did mock-ups at parades, and then the USA wondered what it was ?? !! The Chinese clones at the parade were not impressed by the usual Chinese soup set of everything !!!!
  24. Old26
    Old26 5 October 2019 14: 50
    +2
    Quote: maksut nurgaliyev
    China may, as before, during the USSR did mock-ups at parades, and then the USA wondered what it was ?? !! The Chinese clones at the parade were not impressed by the usual Chinese soup set of everything !!!!

    The USSR also didn’t export models to the parade. They can be counted on the fingers of one hand. It was more often that exported not serial copies - yes. By the way, it was after such parades that the Americans changed their system of notation for our technology.

    And the parade in Beijing is interesting and impressive. Maybe a little messy, but nonetheless.