They say that Russians work poorly. Have you tried to pay them more?

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The country's economic and financial departments are sounding the alarm. At the end of September, Russia recorded a record low level of business activity in manufacturing industries. The PMI fell to 46,3 points against 49,1 in August. For the indicator to be considered positive, there must be more 50, if less, and long enough, we can talk about the threat of a recession. If not in the whole economy, then in industry for sure.




Some experts, for example, from the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), do not share the alarm of the federal departments, referring to the broader data of Rosstat. So far, there is only summer information there, which supposedly indicates the highest level of business activity since January. Nevertheless, the RDIF already reminds us that the PMI production survey has a “narrow focus” and is not representative enough. You might think that in Russia now at least someone really believes Rosstat.

The PMI index, which is calculated according to the results of surveys, that is, according to subjective indicators, is actually quite objective, since it takes into account irrefutable data on purchases in companies. The current index was the lowest in the last ten years, so quickly the number of orders has not fallen since the spring of 2009. But back in April of this year, everything seemed to be quite good - the PMI index then reached 51,8.

Together with a drop in the number of orders, which, in fact, makes us worry more about the future, the number of people employed in those same manufacturing sectors, which are key for the industrial sector, began to fall almost as quickly. The service sector, and even more so the agricultural one, is currently unable to quickly absorb excess personnel resources.

With our extremely (or rather, indecent) low payments to the unemployed, this threatens to lie with an unexpected additional burden on the budget. Did you notice that our unemployment benefits are indexed much less actively and pompously than the same miserable pensions? If, frankly, we can assume that they do not compensate at all.

However, the powers that be and the great oligarch employers are clearly reassured by the fact that there were no and no mass demonstrations of the unemployed, in contrast to the "unsystematic opposition," in the country. And God forbid, it will not. However, judging by the optimism that both members of our government and all elected representatives invariably emit during budget bargaining, it is the least worth worrying about the budget in Russia.

The budget is federal, to the envy of all regional and local, our budget is surplus. And while maintaining current trends and the system of power, such can remain as long as you like. Here are just ordinary citizens from a surplus budget rather than warm, but cold.



At the same time, citizens continue to be scared by the next prospects for raising the retirement age, or to put into a stupor absolutely crazy ideas with a four-day work week. It would be better first of all, the working day should be normalized according to the Labor Code, as in the notorious civilized countries. For starters, at least until the constitutional 8-hour working day, and better even before seven - seven and a half hours. There is no doubt that the return will be no worse.

Because we can not or because we do not want?


But, in the end, the workers are not to blame for the fact that the number of vacancies for them has decreased. And it is not the proletariat, which in the third millennium almost half consists of all kinds of lower-level managers, is to blame for the fact that companies have experienced such a disaster as a reduction in production needs. And this is usually followed immediately by cost optimization, primarily on staff.

A continuation of this negative trend should be a rise in selling prices, but it is practically nonexistent. No, because there is no growing or at least steady demand. Demand in the sphere of real production due to extremely reduced trade chains in the conditions of fierce competition rests on consumer demand. Together with business demand, it represents the very effective demand that pushes the economy into growth, and it doesn’t even matter, due to the production or expansion of the service sector.

By the way, in the United States, because of the constant stimulation of effective demand, the economy has long ago turned into a service economy, most of which are not really needed by anyone. In this area, by almost three quarters of the financial one, there is no question of any reduction in those very trade chains.



It is hardly worthwhile to prove here once again that the American example for Russia is not an example, but our economic gurus have been taught and are taught in American patterns. However, the authors themselves do not pretend to dispute the authority of John Maynard Keynes, generally speaking the nationality of the Englishman, and his followers.

Somewhat confuses only a very different view with the leaders of the Cabinet’s economic bloc on “effective demand” - Keynes should have it on a massive scale, but ours on the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Economy and the Central Bank should be somehow limited for the elite. Otherwise, how can one explain the stubborn reluctance of any of these departments to even discuss the fixed minimum wage for state employees or a real increase in the minimum wage.

The other day, the head of the Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina very nicely filed a reduction in the key rate to the level of seven percent per annum. Compared to the horror that the Central Bank has held for so many years in a row, it seems to be quite good. But the legendary Stalin’s People’s Commissar of Finance Arseny Zverev for such a rate could send someone under execution. Even the capitalists in the USSR were not credited under such conditions, and in tsarist Russia they could even give a loan shark for seven percent.

So what did Elvira Sahipzadovna tell us about seven percent? She recalled both the hidden inflationary pressures, the decline in domestic demand, and the global slowdown in production. But she promised a further reduction in the rate. And thanks for that, although an economy in which they have already thought of negative rates on foreign currency deposits, while the elect have almost unlimited access to financial resources, in any case, they are doomed to function not thanks, but contrary to.

They say that Russians work poorly. Have you tried to pay them more?


The head of the Central Bank cannot but be given credit, at least she has not voiced the traditional spell about the impending threat of further sanctions. There is no doubt that our economic departments are absolutely convinced that, having driven almost three quarters of the population into poverty, they really achieved the coveted financial stability.

Yes there are people there, our people are able to endure, but the other day the Accounts Chamber reported on financing the notorious national projects in the first half of the year. So, in the first quarter they were financed only by 12,8 percent, and in the second they did not reach 30. What other effective demand is worth talking about after that. No, by the end of the year, officials can keep up and spend all 100 percent on national projects, but this is from a completely different stories...

Nevertheless, today we have the coveted financial stability. To the envy of the enemies, when the country has a budget surplus, and the trade balance goes up plus, and inflation is below the plinth. But for some reason this skirting board was for some reason at the ceiling.

But in general, the most dangerous thing here is that not only our economy gurus strongly believe that they are on the right track, but that they have long been able to convince the whole political elite of this, right down to the top. And it seems that the finally lost electorate is no longer scary.
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  1. Grandfather 3 October 2019 05: 34 New
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    They say that Russians work poorly. Have you tried to pay them more?
    sucks to work without work. Gazprom isn’t enough for all.
    1. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 06: 03 New
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      Quote: Grandfather Kastary
      Have you tried to pay them more?
      Nope ... But what, it will give an effect? recourse
      1. Amurets 3 October 2019 06: 10 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Nope ... But what, it will give an effect?

        They pretend that they are paying, we pretend that we are working.
        1. depressant 3 October 2019 07: 03 New
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          Time 6 am and 11 minutes in addition. Once, before the crisis of 2008, an avalanche of people rolled down the stairs with a roar - they ran to the bus in order to catch a job in the regional center. Cars started and roared under the windows, a polyphonic speech was heard, crowds of people walked past the windows. An hour later, the movement of schoolchildren and teachers began, then the vast courtyard of communal services, with noisy plumbers and even more noisy bosses, came to life ...
          In 2008, the noise subsided slightly, then resumed. And now - silence, rows of cars at the joke. There are many more than before, but their immobility throughout the day they all look like monuments to the automobile industry, pigeons spoil them, but the owners do not even wash them. And why, if you do not go to work? And only the distant track is still rustling ...
          In general, silence, sleep-- I do not want to! No one and nothing is bothering me in the morning now - thanks, Sahibzatovna, for taking care of my dream, but for some reason I can’t sleep. I’m all thinking: how did it happen that the country is controlled by the Central Bank? Yes, money loves silence. But even they do not like the cemetery. And to a person, living among economic crosses and tombstones is somehow a bit of a mess. The cemetery is not a place for the living. But every day you learn how some good, useful enterprise died, and if a new one was born somewhere, then it’s small things, or another device for pumping minerals abroad. And I still can’t figure out what exactly the Central Bank offers to my country - to whom or to eftanasia?
          1. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 07: 12 New
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            Quote: depressant
            Sahibzatovna
            Actually, Sahipzadovna, but from this the meaning of cemetery silence does not change ...... hi
            1. Tatyana 3 October 2019 07: 35 New
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              Quote: Amurets
              Quote: Uncle Lee
              Nope ... But what, it will give an effect?

              They pretend that they are paying, we pretend that we are working.

              Do not talk nonsense and do not repeat phrases from the time of Gorbachev's "perestroika"! In the courtyard of capitalism. Namely.

              The Russian labor market has long been overwhelmed by low-skilled foreign "labor" migrants, who supplanted domestic workers both in terms of dumping wages and social obligations to workers. Most Russian workers are marginalized due to the actual unemployment in the domestic labor market, deformed by the influx of foreign migrants. Only civil servants and state employees are kept afloat. The rest of the Russian working population will most likely remain in the near future without any pension or social benefits.

              And for the most part, I know well how foreign labor migrants work. Especially in construction.
              They have no working conscience. Migrants come to the Russian Federation to grab it, take on any work without qualifications and with fake documents about the profession, they left on the quiet from the employer to the right and left with their own tools and materials, quietly take off from work, etc.

              About bourgeois liberalism of the government of the Russian Federation and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and unemployment for Russians. See from 17: 00 min.

              Worse than pension reform. What will turn out to be a new initiative of Medvedev. Mikhail Delyagin. Posted: 29 September 2019 Year
              1. Amurets 3 October 2019 07: 49 New
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                Quote: Tatiana
                Do not talk nonsense and do not repeat phrases from the time of Gorbachev's "perestroika"! Time has long been wrong. In the courtyard of capitalism. Namely.
                re-read this liberal nonsense better than Henry Ford Sr. He will teach you economics.
                And the fact that I put it in a phrase about work and salary is the squeezed essence of your boltology. "The best job is a high-paying hobby." Henry Ford Sr.
                1. Tatyana 3 October 2019 08: 12 New
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                  Quote: Amurets
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Do not talk nonsense and do not repeat phrases from the time of Gorbachev's "perestroika"! Time has long been wrong. In the courtyard of capitalism. Namely.
                  Enough to carry liberal nonsense re-read better than Henry Ford Sr. He will teach you economics.

                  You compare different historical times - the end of the twentieth century with its beginning.
                  At the same time, Ford lived during the development of the scientific and technological revolution in real production and the rise (dominance) of PRODUCTION capital over FINANCIAL. Now the world is dominated by financially speculative capitalism over production.
                  Therefore, the phrase "They pretend that they pay, we pretend that we work." - under the dominance of FINANCIAL capitalism - does not roll at all! Neither to the village, nor to the city.

                  By the way, such as Henry Ford, at that time in the United States was one of the only capitalists, which in the United States at that time, all the other capitalists took hostility.
                  1. Amurets 3 October 2019 09: 35 New
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                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Now the world is dominated by financially speculative capitalism over production.

                    So you will cook this colored paper for food, sew clothes from this paper, heat stoves or boilers, only your century will be short-lived, because the paint on this paper is terribly poisonous. That is why the mines from under the Strategic Missile Forces missiles are abused with old banknotes, otherwise it is impossible to destroy them. And this will happen when commodity production disappears and "there will be one television around," as one hero from the movie "Moscow Does Not Believe in Tears," because finance is the equivalent of commodity value. So think about what you have left when commodity production disappears. No need for energy, the basis of all the basics of production, but there will be colored paper, Kauri shells and similar equivalents of commodity value.
                    1. Tatyana 3 October 2019 10: 27 New
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                      Quote: Amurets
                      So you will ...
                      So think about what you have left when commodity production disappears. No need for energy, the basis of all the foundations of production, but there will be colored paper, Kauri shells and similar equivalents of commodity value

                      Who is this “you” with you?
                      Who are you talking to now? Do you personally contact me? Or do you turn to the liberal-oligarchic government of the Russian Federation, led by the monetarist-marketer Medvedev, the Kudrino-IMF spill in power?

                      You have either mixed up the addressee, or you simply ran to my side.
                      I’m talking about the same thing to you!
                  2. yehat 8 October 2019 12: 41 New
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                    Quote: Tatiana
                    such as Henry Ford

                    don't think that Ford was a constant
                    many perceive it at the time of the take-off of its production of Ford T
                    and the phrases "you can buy any car of any color, provided that it will be a black Ford-T", according to innovative introductions of a clear division of operations in production.
                    They think of him as a "productive" capitalist.
                    But in fact, Ford was strongly influenced by socialist ideas all his life (not to be confused with left-wing views and communism) and it was he who, to a large extent, became the one who created the “American Dream” in the post-war years for Americans. He made available his products to the majority (the direct idea of ​​socialism), at his factory he introduced quite a few standards that improve the quality of life and wages of workers.
                    I must say that he was in close contact with social scientists from the USSR, with Shaposhnikov and his developments and other Western scientists, including Germans and Italians and Japanese. For example, Ford was one of the first to receive the main conclusions of our control theory and introduced practically proved points.
                    (e.g. group management theory)
                    It was his approach and technology that enabled the United States as a whole to easily increase production during the war with Japan. In the 40s, Ford came to the unequivocal conclusion that conveyor production and, in general, building a business based on people is a vicious method and has become much more active in replacing simple operations with machines - exactly what we are doing now in return, as well as self-regulating management systems (something that Potapenko is actively advertising now) that excluded the human factor.

                    I evaluate Ford as a pure capitalist only at the beginning of his journey, then, in spite of the fact that he remained a capitalist, Ford did a lot of other work changing society towards the classically described positive utopias in the Keynes style and creating elements of socialism.
                    Again, I ask you not to confuse socialism with the power of the soviet proletariat and communism.
              2. vlad106 5 October 2019 14: 40 New
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                Quote: Tatiana
                Quote: Amurets
                Quote: Uncle Lee
                Nope ... But what, it will give an effect?

                They pretend that they are paying, we pretend that we are working.

                Do not talk nonsense and do not repeat phrases from the time of Gorbachev's "perestroika"! In the courtyard of capitalism. Namely.

                The Russian labor market has long been overwhelmed by low-skilled foreign "labor" migrants, who supplanted domestic workers both in terms of dumping wages and social obligations to workers. Most Russian workers are marginalized due to the actual unemployment in the domestic labor market, deformed by the influx of foreign migrants. Only civil servants and state employees are kept afloat. The rest of the Russian working population will most likely remain in the near future without any pension or social benefits.

                And for the most part, I know well how foreign labor migrants work. Especially in construction.
                They have no working conscience. Migrants come to the Russian Federation to grab it, take on any work without qualifications and with fake documents about the profession, they left on the quiet from the employer to the right and left with their own tools and materials, quietly take off from work, etc.

                About bourgeois liberalism of the government of the Russian Federation and the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and unemployment for Russians. See from 17: 00 min.

                Worse than pension reform. What will turn out to be a new initiative of Medvedev. Mikhail Delyagin. Posted: 29 September 2019 Year


                in the "Catechism of the Jew" it is written: "the Russians should not be given work, not hired ...".
                hire Armenians, Poles of other different, but not Russian. Zionists staged genocide of the Russian people
              3. yehat 8 October 2019 14: 02 New
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                "Outside is capitalism. Namely."
                we do not have capitalism. we have feudalism.
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            3. bandabas 3 October 2019 13: 44 New
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              And let's quote her surname in the normal way. I will not write, this is a tolerant site without insults. Once again, reluctance, but everyone understood. One letter solves everything. good
              1. VeteranVSSSR 3 October 2019 21: 40 New
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                As you call a ship, so he and ...
          2. YasenPen 3 October 2019 09: 39 New
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            Quote: depressant
            ... ephtanasia?

            In general, now, at the moment, specifically, the people are not ready to defend their right to a better life, and all because they have something to lose + an established inveterate fear of taking at least some independent steps, right or wrong, and think, first of all, of their with your head, and less trust in digital broadcasting.
            He endured one conclusion - not to resist the inexhaustible will and perseverance with which the "people's representatives", led by the guarantor and his appointees, "tighten the screws" in the domestic economic life of the country ... everything that is done is for the better! ... and suffered no other way.
            In 2018, we are all about с rally the only way to prove to the Kremlin pahanat that the people will not tolerate anti-popular transformations ... but no, no more than 50 dissenting people came out with protests throughout the country. Karl, across the vast country !!! Carl, what about football ?!
            Now we will all reap the benefits of the lawmaking of the "servants of the people" ... and we will see something else. We stock up with "patience" hi
            1. Revival 3 October 2019 14: 58 New
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              Yes, absolutely right.
              The people, in many ways, themselves allow this attitude to themselves.
              Not a gram or ready to assert their rights.
              With legislative initiatives, there is already a feeling that along the way they simply mock.
              Raised retirement age and silence ...
              All against! But where are they?
              They didn’t go to the Allowed Safe Meeting either!
              Are they already thinking at the top, well, what else can they do? Likely even if they release the law
              that whips just like to slaves to beat on Fridays in the streets, then they will be silently demolished.
              The last election is generally a class: fraud was understandable, but many people vote for ep anyway! For er!
              How can this be imagined?
              Such “sufferers” of all and all voters can generally cancel their pension, benefits and everything else, they will accept with appreciation and gratitude.
              The people in many respects deserve what they have and will have, systematically, further.
              After all, no illegal actions are needed, which is even easier if you don’t just vote for at least ep and self-immigrants.
              Here is an example, the Moscow City Duma: EP did not nominate a single candidate, but according to the election results, it announced that EP still had the largest faction in the Moscow City Duma! How? Oh, self-immigrants all became er, how unexpected, yes !?
              Interestingly, those who voted for self-immigrants felt themselves like donkeys or felt nothing at all like a vegetable.
              Maybe many are incapacitated in principle? Once in order to breed them, one move is enough, without any combinations.
              The audience is so stupid that the magician just takes the rabbit to the stage and says that he got it out of his hat and everyone is groaning how such a trick was successful, a miracle happened!
              1. goose 8 October 2019 12: 02 New
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                Quote: Revival
                Such “sufferers” of all and all voters can generally cancel their pension, benefits and everything else, they will accept with appreciation and gratitude.

                EP is chosen by women, while social rights are taken away from men at a faster pace, they feel a peculiar “peculiarity”, caste, and this affects self-esteem.
                The main burden on making money and the social press falls on men, but soon women will feel the short-sightedness of this approach.
                But power is hedged everywhere here, and the people simply don’t know anyone but those close to the authorities.
            2. cradle 4 October 2019 08: 08 New
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              whom do you call terpils? Do not measure people by yourself ... If life in the country does not suit you, the borders are open. IT WORKS FOR ME! If you are controlled by a pahanat, then this is YOUR difficulties, in my country there is a government. 50 thousand grish? he considered these idiots? You apparently have nothing to do. Try to work and everything will pass.
          3. aybolyt678 3 October 2019 10: 01 New
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            Quote: depressant
            And I still can’t figure out what exactly the Central Bank offers to my country - to whom or to eftanasia?

            Central Bank is slowly preparing Russia to disassemble the authorities laughing
          4. bar
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            I’m all thinking: how did it happen that the country is controlled by the Central Bank?

            And who else to manage? Our premiere with an iPhone or a cheerful hamster Oreshkin from the economic development?
          5. ivagulin 3 October 2019 11: 57 New
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            ephtanasia is usually anesthetized, so that our economy seems to have such a narcotic dream painlessly before KERDYK
          6. Victor N 4 October 2019 14: 23 New
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            Go to the Good News of Russia website and you will be happy. No need to scold the country, it is good. No need to wait for generous payments - you need to earn. One must learn to earn continuously.
          7. dmb91 5 October 2019 16: 38 New
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            I absolutely agree with you. For all counts.
          8. Machito 6 October 2019 23: 43 New
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            Quote: depressant
            Time 6 am and 11 minutes in addition. Once, before the crisis of 2008, an avalanche of people rolled down the stairs with a roar - they ran to the bus in order to catch a job in the regional center. Cars started and roared under the windows, a polyphonic speech was heard, crowds of people walked past the windows. An hour later, the movement of schoolchildren and teachers began, then the vast courtyard of communal services, with noisy plumbers and even more noisy bosses, came to life ...
            In 2008, the noise subsided slightly, then resumed. And now - silence, rows of cars at the joke. There are many more than before, but their immobility throughout the day they all look like monuments to the automobile industry, pigeons spoil them, but the owners do not even wash them. And why, if you do not go to work? And only the distant track is still rustling ...
            In general, silence, sleep-- I do not want to! No one and nothing is bothering me in the morning now - thanks, Sahibzatovna, for taking care of my dream, but for some reason I can’t sleep. I’m all thinking: how did it happen that the country is controlled by the Central Bank? Yes, money loves silence. But even they do not like the cemetery. And to a person, living among economic crosses and tombstones is somehow a bit of a mess. The cemetery is not a place for the living. But every day you learn how some good, useful enterprise died, and if a new one was born somewhere, then it’s small things, or another device for pumping minerals abroad. And I still can’t figure out what exactly the Central Bank offers to my country - to whom or to eftanasia?

            Under the USSR, at 7 in the morning, it was impossible to get into the subway car — the workers went to the factories. Now the factories have demolished everything. The crush, not the crush, starts at eight - office plankton goes to each other's offices to provide services. Ugh.
            A friend works at MGTUA, a leading federal university of civil aviation in Moscow. And he receives the minimum federal salary of 11 grouse, and not the Moscow minimum wage of 2000. The university has a profit of 18 million rubles, and it eats up horseradish without salt. Here's a Na ... Bulina.
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        3. Stas157 3 October 2019 08: 21 New
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          . in our economic departments we are absolutely convinced that, having driven almost three quarters of the population into poverty, they really achieved the desired financial stability

          Everywhere, in the USA and in China, in order to revitalize the economy stimulate domestic demandpay more money to the people (increase salaries, pensions, allowances or lower the key rate, make loans more affordable ...). In our country, they act exactly the opposite. Wherever you can rob the already impoverished population (by world standards). Hence the natural result. Domestic demand and activity are steadily falling. The economy is shrinking.

          Yes, give people their money, little crooks! Return your pensions, reduce taxes, make loans and mortgages at 2% ... and there will be demand. The economy will immediately come to life! Living and working will be more fun, and enterprises will be in demand. But stingy people and stingy people - they will choke on the amount of money, have a surplus budget and put money in capsules (swollen gold reserves and other airbags), but they will not give money to the population. They take them away. Cut the branch on which they sit.
          1. Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 09: 53 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            Get your pensions back, cut your taxes,

            Manuals of the IMF do not allow.
          2. Mestny 3 October 2019 09: 56 New
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            How do they know about this?
            Most of the managers are still from the USSR. Their understanding of economics is to grab more and topple away.
          3. aybolyt678 3 October 2019 10: 07 New
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            Quote: Stas157
            Everywhere, in the US and in China, in order to revitalize the economy stimulate domestic demand,

            The main regulator of domestic demand is the exchange rate, when foreign currency is expensive and its own cheap, so demand rises and producers are stimulated. And we are told fairy tales about the "STRONG" ruble, about the "STRENGTHENING" .... that in fact, cheating and misleading are not very literate people today.
            1. Lannan Shi 3 October 2019 13: 03 New
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              Quote: aybolyt678
              the main regulator of domestic demand is the exchange rate, when foreign currency is expensive, and its own cheap, here demand rises and producers are stimulated

              This is when there is a production. And when, as with us ... There will simply be an increase in prices for all manufactured goods, and at least half of the food.
              1. aybolyt678 3 October 2019 14: 55 New
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                Quote: Lannan Shi
                This is when there is a production.

                and it will appear! if it is profitable
                1. Prosha 5 October 2019 20: 56 New
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                  It will appear when the ideology changes - why produce your own, if you can buy in China. When those who grabbed their voucher enterprises are ruined, and others feel sorry for their hard-earned money, and the owners of the enterprises begin to think constructively - how to make money, and not sell everything at a bargain price and dump it.
                  1. aybolyt678 6 October 2019 06: 14 New
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                    Quote: Prosha
                    It will appear when the ideology changes - why produce your own

                    I like your opinion, but with the existing ideology, the path to economic recovery is only through a crisis: namely, the exchange rate should be maintained at a level that is beneficial specifically for our domestic producer.
          4. Vikxnumx 3 October 2019 10: 59 New
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            What they are ordered from Washington, they do!
            And even Faberge can take, and hit the patient himself! (by wallet!)
          5. ROBIN-SON 3 October 2019 13: 22 New
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            Do not expect. Power is strong and firmly on its feet. Monitors the situation. No one is on strike or self-immolating in protest. The opposition in the person of L. Navalny plays a protest role, periodically bringing out young animals and not so much to the streets of Moscow shouting "We are here in power." Police beat them with batons. Everyone is happy. The West sees that protests are democracy, that is, scriptwriters get paid. Peskov comments. The market of cheap labor from the near abroad is large. No one will give you money. Until the first crisis ...
          6. Severok 5 October 2019 17: 39 New
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            Yes, give people their money, little crooks! Return your pensions, reduce taxes, make loans and mortgages at 2% ... and there will be demand. The economy will immediately come to life! Living and working will be more fun, and enterprises will be in demand. But stingy people and stingy people - they will choke on the amount of money, have a surplus budget and put money in capsules (swollen gold reserves and other airbags), but they will not give money to the population. They take them away. Cut the branch on which they sit.

            These are not mean people, these are enemies. The real enemies who are not seen at point blank going to the guard, who are not seen at point blank, who are satisfied with everything in the country (and will be satisfied until the fried gold pecks at the very causal thing), those who are going to the polls do not see point blank (not realizing that by their presence in the so-called elections they create the appearance of legitimacy of the presence of these bastards in power who steal our lives and the lives of our descendants from us).

            They do not chop the branch on which they sit, because when it starts to bake, they will incite Zolotov / Putin against the indignant guards and call on NATO according to one inconspicuous law signed by Vova.
          7. goose 8 October 2019 12: 09 New
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            Yes, give people their money, little crooks! Return your pensions, reduce taxes, make loans and mortgages at 2% ... and there will be demand.

            Those. Do not take money from people and do not spend money on the administration of the distribution and development of the collected money.
        4. Chaldon48 3 October 2019 12: 37 New
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          And everyone thinks how bad it is that in the end they will imagine switching from a small salary to a very tiny pension.
        5. sinoptic 3 October 2019 16: 28 New
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          There is power in Russia holding those national fun, slaves to bend. Bend until those in the face they will not give. The tradition is centuries old. Long time ago.
          Do you think GDP and Medvedev do not know that people are furious? They know!
          They have long been explained from different angles what needs to be done.
          But why do something if you can do nothing. They tolerate, do not kick.
      2. Svarog 3 October 2019 07: 07 New
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        Have you tried to pay them more?
        Nope ... But what, it will give an effect?

        At least the fact that they will start to buy more goods, thereby stimulating the producers of these goods, and the producer, in turn, will increase their staff more, thereby affecting employment .. In general, the extremely strange policy of our economic bloc smacks of "deliberate wrecking." .
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          1. Svarog 3 October 2019 07: 31 New
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            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Quote: Svarog
            will start to buy more goods, thereby stimulating the producers of these goods ...

            ... that is, the Chinese ...

            A wonderful question .. And who is stopping us from doing production? Why didn’t it appear in 20 years ...? Have you joined the "robust"? laughing wassat
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              Quote: Svarog
              Wonderful question ..

              This is not a question, this is the answer. To the stupid sentence "just pay more and everything will be Coca-Cola."

              There will be no request

              Quote: Svarog
              And who is stopping us from doing production? Why didn’t it appear in 20 years ...?

              And this is a separate issue that is not solved by the "pay more" method.

              Quote: Svarog
              Have you joined the "robust"?

              If the “healthy” ones are you and your dancer, then definitely no.

              It’s significant, by the way, that even you are a word healthy consumed ... in quotation marks laughing
            2. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 40 New
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              "And who is stopping us from doing production?" - You personally probably: lack of ideas, laziness and a lack of understanding of how this is all done.
              "Why didn’t it appear in 20 years ...?" You didn’t have it, but others had a lot of things, since they didn’t sit idly by and did not expect the state to bring them everything on a silver platter.
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                Vadim237
                lack of ideas, laziness and lack of understanding of how this is all done.

                Yes, it's right about our power! Bravo!
                good
                Vadim237 You haven’t, but others have a lot of things

                And you can’t argue! soldier
            3. Revival 6 October 2019 00: 21 New
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              "Rather, the sky will fall to the ground" than he will join
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            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Svarog the economist of you is like a ballerina of me. Let’s talk about the "evil Puten stole pensions" or something ... you better get this song

            Kisa, Kisa would not have been if she had not done without her scandalous comparisons. Usually I do not answer him, but here it would be necessary so that he would not mislead other people with his "Chinese". It should be noted that demand falls at Russian enterprises (and not like the Chinese, as Kees believes) and the only way to increase demand is to stimulate the economy. What the author of the article, by the way, offers. And you can’t even refuse to stimulate the economy, even under the pretext that some of the money will go to these Chinese.
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                  1. Svarog 3 October 2019 10: 27 New
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                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    In the bath, stasik, in the bath ... there is your place

                    It’s amazing why they stopped sending you to the bathhouse, no one complains apparently .. Constantly being rude, you are engaged in provocations, as a matter of fact, almost never comment on the article, clinging to commentators with silly questions .. Here you have to go to the bathhouse, before climbed out ..
                    1. Revival 3 October 2019 15: 11 New
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                      All his supposedly pseudo-philosophical comments are a withdrawal from the topic, exaggerated moralizing for the same purpose, and zero information on the topic of the issue under discussion. The "Ringing Void" in the end.
                      Right now it’s just a classic: “don’t give money to the population, they’ll buy Chinese goods, since we don’t produce our own,” and as a result, the thought chain broke, and the question of why we don’t produce our own seems to be concealingly crafty (and the answer to this question is absolutely necessary in conjunction).
                      Who is Uncle Vanya from the village is responsible for production in the country, and at the top are responsible. Oh oh oh, he shouldn’t touch on this topic ...
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                        Quote: Revival
                        "Ringing Void" in the end

                        For the umpteenth time I already ask - in which ear does it ring? If in both - it draws on the diagnosis ...

                        Quote: Revival
                        ... like a chain of thoughts broke, and the question of why we don’t produce our own ...

                        For juggling in a decent society they beat with candlesticks, my friend.

                        The question "why do not produce" - to the topic under discussion (I recall - "raise salaries, and everything in the country will work out") does not refer to the word "no way" request

                        Quote: Revival
                        Oh oh oh, he shouldn’t touch on this topic ...

                        Why not? Everything is possible. But specifically here it is offtopic ... buddy laughing
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                      3. Leopold 5 October 2019 23: 42 New
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                        Not a single titled trainer has yet been able to tame the Pallas cat. This is for information. And as you translated, let it remain on your conscience. yes
                      4. Harry.km 6 October 2019 01: 35 New
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                        Quote: Leopold
                        And as you translated, let it remain on your conscience.

                        Dear, I don’t know who you turned to, but translate the words "Cat Man Null" according to the words and you will be surprised how many meanings the word "Sat" has. And zoology is a wonderful science, I love animals very much ... they never betray
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                        Quote: Harry.km
                        Zoology is a wonderful science, I love animals very much

                        What a coincidence ... I also love animals, especially local ones. I collect them. Want a collection? wink
                  2. Revival 6 October 2019 00: 24 New
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                    I did not see a more precise definition.
                    If the bird swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, then apparently this is a duck)))
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                    Quote: Revival
                    If a bird swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, then apparently this is a duck

                    So go on ... I'll look after you, man yes
              2. Leopold 5 October 2019 23: 39 New
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                Is it not for you that Delilah cut off cosmas, but surrendered to the enemies with giblets?
              3. Cat man null 6 October 2019 00: 32 New
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                Is it not for you that Delilah cut off cosmas ...

                Well no. This is Sam-Sung, a famous guy ... in vain the "skulls" were canceled, in vain laughing
              4. Leopold 6 October 2019 00: 39 New
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                in vain the "skulls" were canceled, in vain

                I agree, you meet without shoulder straps, you think "recruit", and you look in profile - my mother, minus ten thousand. So go and guess who you are dealing with. belay
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                Quote: Leopold
                in vain the "skulls" were canceled, in vain

                I agree, you meet without shoulder straps, you think "recruit", and you look in profile - my mother, minus ten thousand. So go and guess who you are dealing with. belay

                In this particular case, everything looks a little different ... You look, like a cardboard epaulet with a big star ... you go into the comments, but there’s nothing to read ... you think, a troll ... then, you read the nickname and you understand .. Nick says it all.
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                If the blind leads the blind, both will fall into the pit.

                Don’t dig another hole - you’ll fall into it yourself ... Harry yes
              7. Harry.km 6 October 2019 02: 27 New
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                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Harry

                This name ... A proper name is capitalized. Are you trying to insult dear?
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                Are you trying to insult dear?

                Well, here you are having fun with zoology in half with the angelic ... why don't I have some fun too?

                So you want a collection, or what? wink
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                This is the name ... The proper name is capitalized

                Good name Harya winked And the letters on the ava are so that this ... name does not show live?
                I do not speak English request He taught France. Can you translate into Russian for a graduate of the Central School of Law?
  • Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 09: 54 New
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    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Let's talk about the "evil Puten stole pensions"

    And he didn’t steal them, Kitty? wink
    1. TokarevT 3 October 2019 21: 34 New
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      No, what are you, how can you! This is only his friendship. And the tsar and the boyars are not equal to us! Onet then, of course, they will salivaate how much and when it should be, but this will be a completely different matter! The tsar has nothing to do with it, they brought him onep, and he, as befits the tsar, honestly observes the people.
  • abrakadabre 3 October 2019 07: 55 New
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    In general, an extremely strange policy in our economic bloc smacks of "deliberate sabotage" ..
    She doesn't smell. She stinks so that without a gas mask it’s impossible to stand nearby.
  • aybolyt678 3 October 2019 10: 09 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    At least that they will start to buy more goods

    I would clarify - more domestic goods. Because when buying imported, we strengthen foreign manufacturers
  • Prosha 5 October 2019 21: 02 New
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    Do you remember in Russia there was a boom in private entrepreneurship, a widespread boom of stalls with a variety of consumer goods, which grew into the sale of beer, chewing gum and cigarettes, and then sank into oblivion ... I’m afraid if salaries increase, then without producing various kinds of goods, this boom salaries will end in the retail chains Auchan, Magnet and Tape .... And God forbid that domestic producers of the food industry have raped, anything from all this.
    I wrote about the stalls, to the fact that people need to be taught not only how to work, but how to make money, without the ability to organize production of anything, everything will end with a beer stall.
  • Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 09: 50 New
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Nope ... But what, it will give an effect?

    Doctor, my legs are black!
    - Have you tried to wash them?
    “Does it help?” laughing
    According to the article -
    The other day, the head of the Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina very nicely filed a reduction in the key rate to the level of seven percent per annum.
    The European Central Bank has been keeping the zero rate for several years, despite the fact that the inflation of the euro over the past 3 years is 1.5 - 2%. hi
  • Nick 3 October 2019 23: 25 New
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    But what, it will give an effect?

    Of course. Simple arithmetic. If 10% of the richest citizens of the Russian Federation receive 46% nat. they would not be able to create demand for almost half of the goods and services produced in Russia, if they didn’t try. In three throats you can’t eat four pairs of shoes, trousers, etc. you don’t get yourself. If these funds went to the salaries of ordinary workers, pensions, social services. benefits. and so on, the demand for goods and services in the economy and mid-level segments would sharply increase, which, in turn, would provide orders for the country's economy, thereby stimulating the growth of the economy, jobs, and budgets of all levels.
    Something like this.
    As Mr. Livshits used to say to the oligarchs of the Yeltsin era: "It is necessary to share."
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    One wise man said - a small salary is not a reason for theft or to make a marriage in work.
  • Van 16 3 October 2019 06: 32 New
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    But enough promises. I'm talking about 25 million high-tech jobs.
    1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 48 New
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      These 25 million high-tech jobs are otherwise spelled out in May Decrees
      "Development of small and medium enterprises
      increase in the number of employees in the field of small and medium-sized enterprises to 25 million people;
      simplification of tax reporting for entrepreneurs using cash registers; A.
      simplification of access to preferential financing;
      creation of a support system for farmers and development of rural cooperation;
      the creation of a new taxation regime for self-employed citizens, including the automatic transfer of information to the tax authorities, exemption from reports and the deduction of a single payment from revenue. "
      Subject 25000000 "high-tech" jobs closed.
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        Quote: Vadim237
        the creation of a new taxation regime for self-employed citizens, including the automatic transfer of information to the tax authorities, exemption from reports and the deduction of a single payment from revenue. "

        And, here comes the tax on the self-employed ... Sobsno, "May decrees." And they say they don’t fulfill laughing In terms of stripping - how else.
        1. Svarog 3 October 2019 14: 52 New
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          Quote: unwillingly
          And, here comes the tax on the self-employed ... Sobsno, "May decrees." And they say they don’t do it. In part, to tear off - how else.

          About to tear off ..
          Today, Skvortsova said that it was necessary to prepare for completely paid medicine, so the government began to work seriously to reduce the population of Russia ..
      2. Van 16 3 October 2019 16: 22 New
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        “By 2020, 25 million jobs must be created and modernized. This is a very ambitious and difficult task.” From the Message to the Federal Assembly 2012
      3. Harry.km 5 October 2019 08: 10 New
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        Quote: Vadim237
        These 25 million high-tech jobs are otherwise spelled out in May Decrees
        "Development of small and medium enterprises
        increase in the number of employees in the field of small and medium-sized enterprises to 25 million people;

        Quote: Vadim237
        Subject 25000000 "high-tech" jobs closed.

        You are clearly confusing the decrees of 2012 and 2018.
        In 2012, someone promised: 1. Creation of 25 million high-performance jobs by 2020 (s)
        In 2018, someone promised: 13. To the Government of the Russian Federation during implementation
        together with state authorities of the Russian Federation
        Federation of the national project in the field of development of small and medium
        entrepreneurship and individual entrepreneurial support
        Initiatives to ensure in 2024:
        a) achievement of the following target: increase
        the number of employees in the field of small and medium enterprises,
        including individual entrepreneurs, up to 25 million people (s)

        Thus, the total number of people working in high-tech jobs and small and medium-sized businesses is: 50 (fifty Karl!) Million people. And if the first 25 million are promised by 2020, then the next by 2024. As they say, flies from cutlets should be separate.
        After 2 months of NG, we’ll listen under the Christmas tree how we began to live well and how fulfilled the FIRST May decrees of 2012 are.
      4. Revival 6 October 2019 00: 27 New
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        And so this small average business is always the most high-tech))))))))))))))
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi 3 October 2019 06: 33 New
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    Yes, it’s clear that it’s not enough. Not in the gas industry.
    The fact is that the patience of the people is quite large, but not unlimited. The consequences for Russia will be disastrous. It will all end in the next 1917 year. As a result of which there will be little space on earth for all these "Kremlin friends" of the guarantor and the guarantor himself. They will ask everyone and for everything.
    In life, everything changes and nothing happens forever. And the government, led by the guarantor, is doing everything to make the “new 1917 year” come as quickly as possible.
    1. Vikxnumx 3 October 2019 11: 02 New
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      As long as ordinary people have something to lose, there will be no mass unrest.
      And when the people remain completely naked ... in the rear, then everything will become completely shitty!
    2. fruit_cake 3 October 2019 12: 22 New
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      to have a new 1917, it is necessary for the people to have weapons, which then were people who returned from the war, and now how they will disperse without even shooting as in 1993
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        The right thought. It remains to acquire weapons both legal (hunting ticket) and illegal means (neatly and quietly). Very soon, there is a chance it may be required.
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      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      The fact is that the patience of the people is quite large, but not unlimited. The consequences for Russia will be disastrous. It will all end in the next 1917 year.

      The problem is that our power is vile, but not entirely bad. Grew up a layer of such urban farmers. Which have everything in chocolate. And who are ready to kill for it "in chocolate personally with me". And the country as a whole? Yes, even in Zimbabwe, what let it turn. Their country beyond their threshold ends.
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    Somewhat confuses only a very different view with the leaders of the Cabinet’s economic bloc on “effective demand” - Keynes should have it on a massive scale, but ours on the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Economy and the Central Bank - it’s somehow limited for the elite. Otherwise, how can one explain the stubborn reluctance of any of these departments to even discuss the fixed minimum wage for state employees or a real increase in the minimum wage
    .
    This can be explained by the lack of responsibility, when people are not responsible for what they have done, they do what they want. Now, if, after another unsuccessful reform, someone had been attracted, I’m sure the next “reformer” would have been more responsible and quick ..
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      In order for one of the "reformers" to be held liable for the failure of innovations in case of failure, a legal mechanism is needed. But such a mechanism, as I understand it, is not anywhere in the world. Depending on the level of the “reformer,” either a hearing, for example, in Congress, or prosecution by victims is practiced. Do we have this even in precedent form? I guess not. So the hands of the Central Bank are untied, read the IMF. The absence of inflation is put above the population’s need for industrial development, which means countries. Feeling the moral precariousness and stupidity of such a position, suitable for this by the press, directed by a near-bank party, a legend is created that the Russians are stupid and lazy. This is to feed foreign surprise, as, they say, is a rich country, and the population is poor. Lazy Russians, lazy. Lazy and dumb. But I can see how Russians are straining at work. Even within the borders of my little village. Entrepreneurs reduced staff to survive, and the remaining ones spin to swollen legs at the end of the shift. And there is no one inside the country who, by law, could subjugate unbridled bankers, for whom the dying stability is higher than the development of industrial production.
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        Quote: depressant
        In order for one of the "reformers" to be held liable for the failure of innovations in case of failure, a legal mechanism is needed. But such a mechanism, as I understand it, is not anywhere in the world

        Yes, at least they fired, without the right to occupy leadership positions. In general, everything goes from the head .. Under Stalin, it’s not even possible to imagine such a bacchanal ..
        1. depressant 3 October 2019 09: 53 New
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          Svarog, I understand what you want to say. But who can fire Nabiullina? Putin? Does he have the authority to do so? Suppose there is. But for what reason can he dismiss the head of the Central Bank, recognized as the best specialist in this field, at least in Europe? Abroad will not understand. And besides, for this Putin must become Stalin. But he rejects this possibility in every possible way. And who will give him! We might have allowed it, but our voices, apparently, are not decisive. Yes, and somehow Putin does not see Stalin - not that texture. So the authorities were divided into such parts, not one of which sees the country and its needs as a whole. Each part has its own color of the working spectrum. They do not add up to white light. There is no one to lay them down.
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            Quote: depressant
            about why could he dismiss the head of the Central Bank, recognized as the best specialist in this field, at least in Europe? Abroad will not understand.

            Yes, the trouble is that the Gauleiters are solid, who do everything with an eye to foreign countries .. And foreign countries have identified us as a raw materials appendage. As long as the Gauleiters will lead, we will remain a raw materials appendage .. The richest country, fully self-sufficient, as long as we have qualified human potential (though with the reform of education it will end soon) and such beggars .. ashamed
          2. Vadim237 3 October 2019 16: 10 New
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            “But who can fire Nabiullina” And why dismiss her - the central bank is working properly and allocates 98% of the profits to the budget.
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              And why dismiss her - the central bank is working properly to allocate 98% of profits to the budget.

              And do you think that the main task of the Central Bank is the allocation of profit?
              Tin ...))
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          Yes, at least they fired, without the right to occupy leadership positions. But in general, everything goes from the head .. Under Stalin it’s not even possible to imagine such a bacchanalYu..
          read about Zhikharev’s career - which in the eyes Stalin lied and him for it ... shot right there (war !!) ??? no, exiled to the Far East ... and not a lieutenant ....
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    But don’t talk about Russians working poorly. The Svobodnensky gas processing plant is being built, almost only migrant workers are working, for some reason they do not take ours. If anyone managed to get it, then basically either security or drivers. Several acquaintances carry various cargoes at their gas processing plants in their vehicles. Mata heard from them about the workers. For happiness, if it runs into our brigade, but mostly Tajiks, Kazakhs, Turks. Unload the car for several hours. And just a loader or a crane lifted the bundles of reinforcement aside.
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      Quote: YOUR
      but mostly Tajiks, Kazakhs, Turks. Unload the car for several hours. And just a loader or a crane lifted the bundles of reinforcement aside.

      That's why they are gaining that they will not go anywhere and will not run anywhere. Pick up the locals, it’s good if they just run away, or they may complain about the GDP, like on the Vostochny or the Kuril Islands. And what's next? Showdown with the prosecutor?
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      The Svobodnensky gas processing plant is being built, almost only migrant workers are working, for some reason they do not take ours.

      They are now even building churches, contrary to all the canons of faith! laughing
  • lucul 3 October 2019 06: 05 New
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    The effect of a wage increase (return on labor productivity) works until a certain point, then no matter how much you increase your salary, the return will not increase. There have already been studies on this subject in the West.
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      Remarkably, based on this logic, you can not pay salaries at all.
      Labor productivity does not depend on the size of the salary, but on the optimization of the labor process, which is the concern of the employer, not the employee. And if the employer is greedy, then his workers are to blame for everything: both lazy and thieves
      1. Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 09: 58 New
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        Quote: MVG
        Remarkably, based on this logic, you can not pay salaries at all.

        There is still logic there, and it is different. If you pay a million per month, you will not be able to work around the clock for a month. But the problem is not this, but the fact that the growth of s \ n is lower than the rise in prices. But it should be the other way around. hi
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          Mwg 3 October 2019 12: 12 New
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          "the growth of our salaries is lower than the growth of prices" - did you most likely mean a formal increase in salaries? Since that increase of 10% is formally an increase in salaries and an increase of 01% is formally an increase in salaries.
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      Exactly, you need to learn from this research in the West this particular moment, and do the same ....
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      Oligarchs and effective managers are also affected? wink
    4. Ross xnumx 3 October 2019 09: 34 New
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      Quote: lucul
      The effect of wage increases (return in labor productivity) works up to a certain point, then how many do not raise your salary - the return will not increase. There have already been studies on this subject in the West.

      You stand near the draped Mausoleum and quote all this bullshit to the deputies of the State Duma, SovFed, officials, effective managers ... Labor productivity is increased by increasing the technical literacy of staff, using modern equipment and tools, a planned work schedule, compliance with sanitary standards and living conditions, and most importantly -
      KNOWLEDGE OF OWN RESPONSIBILITIES AND CLEAR FULFILLMENT OF THE TASKS.
      What kind of increase in labor productivity can be discussed if in the structure of the enterprise’s managers ITR positions are occupied by relatives and close associates who, in principle, have no duties (except for the right to check and receive high salaries) or simply duplicate the duties of other employees.
      Western research ended with looking at the experience of the USSR there began to reduce the working day, increase wages and expand social guarantees. This Swedish socialism did not grow out of English capitalism ...
      Today, Russia is slowly and steadily returning to the sunset era of the Russian Empire. When the country could not produce anything ... We can rejoice at some successes in military construction.
  • Mwg
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    Yes Yes. This is a problem from "effective managers" who happily report successes and hiss through their teeth through his teeth "I don’t like it, quit, we’ll recruit others." My wife works in a federal structure, so they have a specialist salary of 12 thousand. How their employees live on this money is not clear. Turnover, respectively, quality is falling. Management requires experienced workers to go to work on weekends or work in the evenings for beginners. But the management itself is consistently receiving bonuses for "results" and there is no turnover among them.
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    we are steadily going to the bottom and there are no real improvements, but for every trifle the fanfare blows red, I am surprised at the people (and there are many of them) who believe the whole official life
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      Drive in YouTube about babies and retirement age. She says that a woman retires and then still lives 30-40 years old ... And something needs to be done with this !!!! And it almost requires an increase in raising the retirement age.
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        After the birth, she threw this lady right away in the cold, and if she works out more seriously on a given topic
  • Mainbeam 3 October 2019 06: 15 New
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    driving almost three quarters of the population into poverty, he really achieved the coveted financial stability.

    precisely noticed
  • Strashila 3 October 2019 06: 32 New
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    “They say that Russians work poorly. Have you tried to pay them more?”, In fact, what is labor productivity and what is produced in Ireland and Luxembourg, which occupy first places in productivity. As a result, everything rests on a simple thing, how the money remains in the country, in fact they are considered.
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    1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 49 New
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      Your USSR has already been taken there - with Putin we just got out of there.
  • Gaersul 3 October 2019 06: 59 New
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    Good morning to all. Regarding paying more. Managers do not want to pay workers. For example, there is an enterprise that works on state defense orders, the enterprise produces a product that is successfully accepted by the Moscow Region and takes up combat duty. Do you think the team will be given a bonus? Well, almost - a bonus to the management, and in the workshops, a decrease in salaries for the next month, a funny coincidence - isn't it? So they did not pay and will not pay.
    1. d4rkmesa 3 October 2019 08: 30 New
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      Fortunately, all this is regulated in an extremely tough and fair way - there are almost no young people who want to work in factories: the salary is low, travel abroad, etc. And then a cry will begin that there is no one to work. Actually, this has already been happening and is happening, and not everywhere, far from everywhere it turns out to fulfill the state defense order. Examples where a similar turning point has already occurred: yes, the same health care - no officials can compensate for the loss of specialists, who, leaving at once, move from a low-paid category to a high-paid one. And earlier the same thing happened with IT specialists (namely specialists) - there is a huge selection of vacancies and many times less idiocy, as in enterprises working for public defense.
  • Shuttle 3 October 2019 07: 08 New
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    T.N. financial gurus do not convince the political elite, but serve its interests. These very gurus are part of the political ruling elite, part of the ruling class, the class of the large financial and industrial bourgeoisie. Everything, as Mr. Karl described, is the dictatorship of the big financial and industrial bourgeoisie.
  • Stas157 3 October 2019 07: 25 New
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    . Some experts, for example, from the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), don't share the alarm federal departments referring to wider Rosstat data.

    Well done, smart guys. They know for sure that Rosstat will tighten up where necessary and ultimately give out the “correct” statistics.
  • rocket757 3 October 2019 07: 31 New
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    Nevertheless, the RDIF already reminds us that the PMI production survey has a “narrow focus” and is not representative enough. You might think that in Russia now at least someone really believes Rosstat.

    It is interesting if the INDUSTRY is in the railway station, what, with everything else, will become SERVICE ???
    Again, gas, oil, raw materials to sell, but must we buy?
    in the first quarter they were funded by only 12,8 percent, and in the second they did not reach 30. What other effective demand is there after that? No, by the end of the year, officials can keep up and spend all 100 percent on national projects, but this is from a completely different story ...

    officials they are, the digital HOW to knock out, they can! Just with the COUNTRY will be, in the end .....
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      Quote: rocket757
      Just with the COUNTRY will be, in the end .....

      Does it bother them?
      1. rocket757 3 October 2019 20: 45 New
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        In general, entertaining geography! but it matters only when there is a direct violation of our laws or in the case when a civil servant harms the country, citizens, steals! Then it is worth adding.
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          Quote: rocket757
          In general, entertaining geography! but it matters only when there is a direct violation of our laws or in the case when a civil servant harms the country, citizens, steals! Then it is worth adding.

          A person who has the citizenship of another country will not be interested in the development of the country of residence. She will be interested in him only as a place of earnings, no more.
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            It is very likely, but you cannot go to the prosecutor with such allegations.
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              Quote: rocket757
              It is very likely, but you cannot go to the prosecutor with such allegations.

              1. Yes
              2. If the prosecutor himself does not have a mansion in the sultry Spain.
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                Good night! hi
                Vasily, your list is just a page that has fallen out of the modern "Big Russian Encyclopedia". Well, if the personal yacht of the vice mayor of a Siberian city was in distress off the coast of Sardinia, then what about officials with a rank higher than many thousands.
                As the saying goes, the fish has already rotted from the head, since the maggots have "pricked the skis."
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                1. Yes
                2. If the prosecutor himself does not have a mansion in sultry Spain

                This is also the current reality.
                Here, either run and run, or change reality!
  • EvilLion 3 October 2019 08: 07 New
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    One can immediately see the "economist" whose money does not arise as a result of labor, but out of nowhere. If you raise the salary, then the country will simply have inflation, and everything will come back.

    Well, they also protested against the pension reform, not realizing that pension is what the state takes away from workers.
    1. d4rkmesa 3 October 2019 08: 20 New
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      The author is right that there is no demand - there is no growth in the economy, industry, etc. All this is amplified by depopulation. And low labor productivity, by the way, is also a consequence. Because many enterprises could increase production> 50% if there was a demand for the same equipment, but they could not. In the USA, the food stamp program has been around for more than half a century, but only our tough monetarists have been stifling everything in a row, if only there would be no inflation.
      1. EvilLion 3 October 2019 11: 37 New
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        The country is so lacking in demand and impoverished, that in spite of all the U.S. campaigns and the Kyrgyz Republic, car sales are growing. And this, by the way, is one of the most characteristic signs of a population’s income level. So it’s not very clear what demand is not in the country. There is a population in the country with sufficient funds to buy something interesting for itself. Moreover, in the country it is impossible, for example, to increase agricultural production without increasing exports or crowding out imports, since a person physically cannot eat more than he gets into it. In the same way, a person will not buy 10 TVs, or 3 washing machines.
        1. d4rkmesa 3 October 2019 12: 01 New
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          >> car sales are growing in the country
          Is it growing relative to last year? Not a fact yet. And so sales have not yet come close to the level of 2012. And if you look at the manufacturers' data, then in general a paragraph, the difference is 2 times.
          >> So it’s not very clear what demand there is in the country.
          As usual, retailers have been recording a decline in retail demand for years. People trite save on food, save hard. The same milk for 70+ rubles is already being bought less and less. Alcohol, again - but this is still the moment when it is even a positive trend. Some would be glad to eat more, but not at all.
        2. Lannan Shi 3 October 2019 13: 23 New
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          Quote: EvilLion
          The country is so lacking in demand and impoverished, that in spite of all the U.S. campaigns and the Kyrgyz Republic, car sales are growing. And this, by the way, is one of the most characteristic signs of a population’s income level.

          This is complete bullshit, not an indicator. The debt of the population to banks exceeded 16 trillion. Or 110.000 per nose, including infants and senior citizens. Or simply put ... You have glitches. There are no private cars in the country at all. With the exception of very pathos. And what you see as a car is not a car. This is the debt figure.
          1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 16: 21 New
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            Half of the population has no debts - and this year the population spent 1,6 trillion rubles on the purchase of new cars.
            1. Beringovsky 3 October 2019 23: 36 New
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              New car sales in Russia have been falling for three consecutive months. According to the Association of European Businesses (AEB), 151 thousand passenger cars and light commercial vehicles were sold in June compared to 156 thousand a year earlier (minus 3,3%). However, in May the decline was even stronger (by 6,7%).

              The Russian market also finished the first half of the year with a fall of 2,4%. For six months, 829 thousand new cars were sold instead of 849 thousand for the same period of 2018. And this despite the fact that on March 1 the state programs of preferential car loans “First car” (for those who buy a car for the first time) and “Family car” (for families with two or more children) were resumed
    2. Ross xnumx 3 October 2019 09: 45 New
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      Quote: EvilLion
      Well, they also protested against pension reform, not understanding that pension is what the state takes away from workers.

      I didn’t graduate from your economic universities, but I know for sure that each productive worker earns his small pension and the large pension of an official and other civil servants (even those with sticks chasing demonstrators). And the new pension reform (you, probably, its supporter) will allow in the future to remove from this chain the most working (until his death) and his pension.
      Sorry! stop The most important thing. Hard workers also contain 130 workers of the RF PF - worthless parasites. All calculations of payments can be made in the accounting department of the enterprise. And there, upon retirement, give a document for the right to receive with transfer to the pension department under the Russian government.
      1. EvilLion 3 October 2019 11: 52 New
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        More people will work, less will be spent on retirement. What's wrong? In Japan, for example, the retirement age is 70 years for everyone.

        As for some deductions to the PF, there is some difference between money, as a certain expendable right to receive some goods and actually consume these goods. A pensioner living at the current time, for example, consumes housing services right now, and he buys food right now. That is, it is all confiscated from those who work right now, and not from the pensioner himself.

        And it reminded me that Yelena Prudnikova spoke on the Goblin channel, which you can’t blame liberal views, I don’t remember what the topic was, but they touched on this, and I neighed for a long time when she directly said that the retirement age should be raised, since earlier, by 60, a person used to work so well that he could only sit on a bench. The goblin, ofigel, apparently thought that he would start how to whine about anti-people power. For home-grown fighters for the rights of workers, this, of course, will cause shock. But the fact is the fact, we have already forgotten how a person who really smelled all his life in the village looks like. This is the first time I saw an Indian movie from the 50's, a twisted grandmother with dried hands. Not some modern computer graphics, but really a person like that, 50 years old who worked in the field in the heat. And compare this with our 60-year-old men who still plow and plow. But the people we have are like that, he doesn’t want to go to work, but he’ll always work in the garden with a shovel, he’s always welcome, and then for the sake of a bucket of rotten apples and a bag of potatoes, he should go on groaning that his legs hurt, his back hurts.
        1. Svarog 3 October 2019 14: 57 New
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          But our people are like that, he doesn’t want to go to work,

          Here you are always liberals our people are not happy, not the one caught .. need to get rid ..
          Who told you that people don’t want to go to work? I haven’t met such people, but they really don’t want to work for pathetic pennies ..
        2. Revival 3 October 2019 16: 08 New
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          1. Name then life expectancy in Japan.
          2. According to your retirement, a person should be no sooner than the state of "sitting curled up on a bench"?
          Then everything is clear with you, it was by this logic that they made the reform: left = dead.
        3. Pilat2009 3 October 2019 16: 39 New
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          More people will work, less will be spent on retirement

          It is clear that this is beneficial for the state, only then why then? What size of the pension was announced during the adoption of this reform? Elbasy drove the country into such an economic impasse that it’s necessary to disentangle about 10 years. A country with an inexhaustible oil reserves near Zimbabwe
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        Quote: ROSS 42
        All calculations of payments can be made in the accounting department of the enterprise.

        Especially in those enterprises where the accountant "comes once a week," and the enterprise itself is striving to transfer nothing to the FIU.
        Quote: ROSS 42
        And the new pension reform (you, probably, its supporter) will allow in the future to remove from this chain of the most working (until his death)

        You have not been in this chain before. Contributions to the Pension Fund - a kind of tax on the employer for the right to open a vacancy in the staff list. Where is the worker here? According to new proposals, he may appear in this chain if he begins to pay his contribution to the FIU.
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        I didn’t graduate from your economic universities, but I know for sure that every productive worker earns his small pension and large pension

        It is unfortunate that you graduated neither from "our" universities, nor from your own economics. Then you would imagine how the PFR budget is formed, what goes there and what it is spent on. These "worthless parasites", together with officials and civil servants with sticks, provide a service due to which you live in peace and another "hard worker" like you didn’t move along the road, didn’t flood you from the top floor, didn’t throw you out of the apartment to die on the street ..... and much more. You pay for this, but do not support them and you do not earn their pension. They do it themselves without your participation. But learning and retiring is not a sin. You have every opportunity for this, there would be a desire.
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          These "worthless parasites", coupled with officials and civil servants with sticks, provide a service thanks to which you live in peace

          There are now more officials in Russia than there were in the USSR. Https: //www.rbc.ru/economics/15/10/2014/543cfe56cbb20f8c4e0b98f2
          And this despite the fact that now everything is computerized
          1. Den717 3 October 2019 17: 18 New
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            There are now more officials in Russia than there were in the USSR

            More than in the USSR, but less than in Canada. And what of that? How much do you need? The 2020 plan will reduce (as promised) state functions and the number of officials per 200 people. Would that be good? No one knows. And these abbreviated 000, what, go dig a canal? Or to mine coal? No. They will occupy the same places in organized LLCs and will perform related functions. They will only lose something from the "class" of officials, for example, the obligation to declare income or not have commercial interests over the hill. Does it make you feel better? Hardly...
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              Does it make you feel better? Hardly...

              This is about the question of officials of the pension fund including. And about the mansions that he builds for himself
              1. Den717 4 October 2019 11: 57 New
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                Quote: Pilat2009
                This is about the question of officials of the pension fund including. And about the mansions that he builds for himself

                Go and work in the FIU, find out how worthless they are. And keep in mind that in our country there are not only million-plus cities, but also thousands of cities and settlements of a smaller scale, and PFR employees are also needed there, because people live and need PFR services there. The foresters, there, were shortened, now they don’t know how to restore order in the forest. And yes, PFR authorities occupy historical buildings, yes, they build new ones for them. Do you want them to move into the dugouts? In general, all these discussions of issues in which 99% of those discussing do not understand or imagine anything are akin to some kind of insanity. So a man is proud that he "did not graduate from universities", then why, one wonders, with his near-primary education, to give out advice where academics cannot figure it out? Carry frank nonsense and expose their illiteracy - a favorite pastime in their free time?
    3. Vikxnumx 3 October 2019 11: 07 New
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      Have you tried to review personal income tax?
      According to the Western model, for example, and not according to related Russian concepts!
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      "You can immediately see the" economist "whose money does not arise as a result of labor, but out of nowhere." Well, you know these Soviet economists.
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      Well, they also protested against the pension reform, not realizing that pension is what the state takes away from workers.

      Selects for a while, and returns with interest ...
  • d4rkmesa 3 October 2019 08: 13 New
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    “Keynes should have it on a massive scale, but for our Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Economy and the Central Bank - it’s somehow limited for the elite” - God bless you, Keynes, the government, the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance have a monetarist sect. They, if only to stifle inflation, at all costs. )))
  • Konatantin 1992 3 October 2019 08: 23 New
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    Not well, according to the Federal State Statistics Service, we normally earn everything))) they’ll indulge with the calculation method and generally the salaries of the norms will be ...
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      even with the calculation method they will indulge and in general the salaries of the norms will be ...

      ... they will be pampered and will cease to pay at all.
  • Den717 3 October 2019 08: 34 New
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    but the other day the Accounts Chamber reported on the financing of the notorious national projects in the first half of the year. So, in the first quarter they were financed only by 12,8 percent, and in the second they did not reach 30. What other effective demand is there after that? No, by the end of the year officials can keep up and all 100

    And let's try to land from heaven to earth. What is happening with the implementation of the "notorious national projects"? But nothing bad happens. For example, the fiscal year begins. The whole first quarter is spent on me, as a legal entity, to see the money for events that fall under project financing. Even if preparations for these events were carried out during the previous year, and we know what we will do (i.e. there is no need to spend time calculating and collecting needs and justifications for events) and we have projects and estimates for bidding, in in the new year it is necessary to adjust these projects for inflation, introduce up-to-date ratios, etc. in the design documentation. Then this documentation (estimate) in most cases should undergo examination. This is another 45 days, but the "pleasure" can extend the comments of experts and their elimination. Then at least a month and a half trading procedures according to 44FZ. By the end of the second quarter, we get a signed contract with the contractor for work and supplies. For all these events, as a legal entity, I almost do not pay money, i.e. in accounting, the disbursement of funds to the national project does not occur. The second half of the year is coming. If our contract involves paying for the work in stages, then a small increase begins in the development of project funds. And here it is quite natural to expect at the end of the half year figures near 30%. In most cases, I judge by myself, we pay under the contract (from the category of design, not to be confused with annual contracts with monthly payment, such as maintenance or fuels and lubricants and others) with one payment for all work. This happens by the end of the year, or at best in the third quarter after accepting all the work, removing comments etc. The race begins by the end of the year, because the bulk of project financing for the next year does not go over and funds can be used only in the current budget year. Such is our budgetary order. And there is no “officials” fault in this, they work in the field that was created for them. When the Accounts Chamber begins to sigh about the 30% development of project money at the end of six months, this indicates their poor idea of ​​how people live on earth, how real work is done, at what point in time, where and how much money is transferred, and how they are born figures in the reports that she (the chamber) is trying to realize. And it would be nice for journalists with doctors to go deeper into the practice of theories. Then there will appear sober reasoning, sound proposals, and economic growth. Nevertheless, Marx was right - practice is the criterion of truth. I ask you not to catch me in terms, I am not an accountant and not an economist, I am only doing the thing that accounting then draws up.
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      The race begins by the end of the year, because the bulk of project financing for the next year does not go over and funds can be used only in the current budget year.

      So you are also “pulled” for not using the allocated money. But the question of when all this can be done does not bother anyone. Former wife accountant at school, same song. hi
      1. Den717 3 October 2019 11: 40 New
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        So you are also “pulled” for not using the allocated money.

        You see, you don’t agree with the sofas laughing . But in fact I will say more. It happens, and often when, as a result of auctions, savings appear. And the greater this saving, the more problematic it is to master it correctly and in the case, because the timing is very limited. Here, periodically, all sorts of “bursts” of public interest are born to pay for an unfinished contract. But everything is simple - theorists write the rules, and then these rules are then applied in practice very crookedly and at high costs of various kinds.
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      I plus you, because I encounter the stupidity of high-ranking durools who do not know the reality every day and their actions are not always so catastrophic, because so far there are people with excellent professional training.
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    The landlords are completely overwhelmed: they are forced to write statements on a shorter working day, so as not to pay a new mole and so everything is in envelopes, and then a miserable 2000 and then we are ready to strangle ourselves. Not only about the prosecutor's office and labor inspection, with paid work at the seams. Everywhere on doom or meeting relatives.
  • Boris55 3 October 2019 08: 36 New
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    We do not work poorly, but someone badly manages.

    Due to greed or thoughtlessness? In principle, this is not so important. An elite that is unable to provide forward movement will be swept away.

    If the elite allowed itself to hide management knowledge from the people, then the responsibility for the consequences of such a decision rests entirely with it and there is nothing to translate from a sore point to a healthy arrow.
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      An elite that is unable to provide forward movement will be swept away.

      But only when?
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        But only when?

        They rule us as much as we allow ourselves to rule us.

        Once each of us has mastered basic knowledge of management, the elite will not be able to rule in the old way. This is akin to the fact that while the child is small, he is gullible and easy to manage, but as soon as the child has grown and his knowledge becomes equal to you or higher, you are no longer able to rule him in the old way.

        In this case, the parent has to convince him of the correctness of his decision or initially not to give him knowledge that is superior to yours and to successfully use the unreasonableness of the child, exploiting him in his own interests, which the current "elite" of our society is successfully doing without realizing that it is spreading the swamp around itself, this swamp will certainly swallow them. In other words, degrading the society around itself, degradation will undoubtedly affect them too - why bother with the gyrus if everything is around without gyri.

        ps
        The previous experience of all generations proved that not one revolution did not bring the promised people the promised happiness, with the exception of the "revolution" of the 1924 year. The change in the social system must go along the evolutionary path, without bloodletting and lowering us into the Stone Age.
        1. region58 4 October 2019 12: 41 New
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          The previous experience of all generations has proved that not one revolution has brought the promised people the promised happiness

          Any revolution creates instability in a country that almost always goes into a civil war. I would not want to. In the nineties "on the edge" were ...
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      And someone works poorly and does not manage well - this criterion does not apply to everyone.
  • Rostislav 3 October 2019 09: 01 New
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    They say that Russians work poorly. Have you tried to pay them more?

    Stupidity. People work the way they can, and not the way you pay them. Put Schumacher salary of 20 thousand rubles. Does he crash into the first pillar? And if you offer $ 100000, can you overtake him?
    "How you pay me, so I work" - the slogan of lazy people and stupid, clumsy attempt to justify themselves.
    Any salary after 3 months is already perceived as a matter of course and ceases to be an incentive, any psychologist will confirm.
    Everyone works as they can, and relate to work the way their dad and mom raised. And do not confuse qualifications and attitudes to work, determined by the presence of conscience in everyone.
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      Stupidity. People work the way they can, and not the way you pay them.

      You are foolishly duplicating. Those who really worked are aware of the sharp increase in labor productivity in the implementation of the so-called “covens” and “kalyms”. That's what life-giving power earning labor creates. belay
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      And if you offer $ 100000, can you overtake him?

      No, Schumacher will simply leave the sport for 20 tons. And if they pay in F1, then F1 will simply disappear as a form of motorsport.
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        Schumacher and the whole Formula 1 - in the first place, the loot is brought by advertising of world brands.
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          Who cares where the money comes from, Vadik! The question is if in F1, or in any other industry, pay a penny, and the exhaust from this industry will be penny. If you want to develop production, you need not skimp on equipment and trained personnel.
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      It’s absolutely correct, but all non-material motivations are based on the fact that a person should initially receive decent money!
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      Any salary after 3 months is already perceived as a matter of course and ceases to be an incentive, any psychologist will confirm.

      Rave. When they worked in the province of Vyatka, local hard workers (laborers) held their teeth for 90 re per hour. And not 3 months, but 5 years. And when I had to choose 5 people who work not 10 hours but 12, and get 180 re more, there are 25 people who want to and 35, out of 50 on the list.
  • BAI
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    recorded a record low level of business activity in manufacturing industries. The PMI fell to 46,3 points from 49,1 in August. For the indicator to be considered positive, there must be more than 50, if less, and long enough, we can talk about the threat of recession.

    There can be no rich state with a poor population. To develop the economy you need a solvent population. But he is not. Therefore, the economy will not develop. Only export raw materials to import finished products. Raw materials will end - only trade in land and water will remain. Here immediately and the Kuril Islands and Lake Baikal will be sold.
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    It is ridiculous to talk about raising salaries if all orders go through auctions. And there everything is simple, unless of course you are not interested in your victory, whoever asks for less money won. Often these are firms without either qualified personnel or their technological capacities. Professionals cannot fall below the cost of work. T.ch. Small and medium-sized businesses are not able to provide high salaries to their employees; if you want money, go to a state corporation, but they will not be enough for everyone ...
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      “They are not able to provide high salaries to their employees” - As much as they can.
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    the number of people employed in those same manufacturing sectors, which are key for the industrial sector, began to fall. The service sector, and even more so the agricultural one, is currently unable to quickly absorb excess personnel resources.

    This is the continuation of the recent article "Working specialties in Russia today is not in fashion." What could be the fashion for working in a depressed industry with the prospect of being on the street? It is better not to lose on unnecessary training and immediately go to work as a loader in a magnet.
    1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 16: 30 New
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      “It’s better not to lose on unnecessary training and immediately go to work as a loader in a magnet.” And the work that is unclaimed will fall into even greater depression - it generally does not.
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        There is a lack of demand you are mistaken. Sales representatives, freight forwarding drivers, warehouse loaders and other workers serving the trade are consistently in demand, unlike skilled workers. But it will be “no” - it is like they pay for it. In this sense, the work of a qualified specialist is usually even no more. In addition, it is risky, with a constant risk of flying out into the street with the next "optimization" of the enterprise.
  • vlados 3 October 2019 11: 19 New
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    The problem is that a stable salary will not always stimulate conscientious work. Human needs are growing all the time; the enterprise in which he works is developing (possibly) and requires more work from him. Naturally, he doesn’t think until he is raised his salary. Well, they raised it. Six months later, a sharp jump in the dollar or something else, and again he needs more money. And the company is drummed, it cannot every six months promote people in the post, and even more so just increase their salaries. Which exit? Look not at the USA, but here, for example, at Sweden.
    Each employee in an industrial enterprise has a certain (depending on the position) percentage of shares. Further, I think, no need to explain. Work efficiently and your stock will go up. Then you will go to another job and sell them. Or leave it, your business. They gave them to you, you don’t lose anything, you only earn. Just imagine how much the employees of Gazprom, Rosneft, etc. could get if they were given at least 0,0001% of the shares ... And everyone would work, and the country would be lifted from its knees. But no, we were stuck in the 20th century, give a salary.
  • TAMBU 3 October 2019 11: 22 New
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    As Grandfather Marx said - the worker gets exactly enough so as not to glue the flippers and work on ... the essence of the phrase "class exploitation" ...
  • Nestorych 3 October 2019 11: 43 New
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    Such a surge of consciousness, everything is mixed.) Everyone understands that there is no money in the economy, and there is no development. In the issue of labor productivity, the financial motivation of an employee goes far from the first place; moreover, it has been scientifically proven that financial motivation stops working fast enough, a person gets used to a period of 6 months.
    Factors affecting labor productivity (by priority):

    1) Material and technical factors

    They are associated with the use of new technology, advanced technology, new types of raw materials. The solution to the problems of improving production is achieved by:

    - introduction of new advanced technologies;
    - automation of technological processes, equipment modernization;
    - the use of new types of raw materials, advanced materials, and other measures.

    2) Organizational and economic factors

    They are determined by the level of organization of labor, production and management. Organizational factors of labor productivity largely determine the degree of real economic return on material and technical factors. These include: improving the organization of production management, including:

    - improving the structure of the management apparatus;
    - improvement of production management systems;
    - improving the operational management of the production process;
    - improving the organization of production, including: improving the material, technical and personnel preparation of production; improving the organization of production units and the arrangement of equipment in the main production; improvement of the organization of auxiliary services and farms: transport, storage, energy, instrumental, household and other types of production services;
    - improving the organization of labor, including: improving the division and cooperation of labor, the use of multi-station services, expanding the sphere of combining professions and functions; use of advanced labor methods and techniques; improving the organization and maintenance of jobs; the application of technically sound labor costs standards, the expansion of the scope of labor standards for workers - time-attendants and office workers; the use of flexible forms of labor organization; improving professional recruitment, improving their training and professional development; improvement of working conditions, rationalization of work and rest; improving wage systems, increasing their catalytic role.

    3) Socio-psychological factors

    - management style in departments and at enterprises in general and, most importantly, the right motivation of employees;
    - the quality of labor collectives;
    - their socio-demographic composition, level of training, discipline, labor activity and creative initiative of workers, a system of value orientations.

    4) social conditions in which labor takes place.

    In the conditions of development of market relations, social conditions are also aggravating, which, on the one hand, inhibit, and on the other, stimulate the growth of labor productivity.

    - increase in unemployment;
    - increased competition for producers;
    - small business development and others.
  • Alexey-74 3 October 2019 11: 43 New
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    IMF instructions, WTO rules, amended Constitution of the Russian Federation, what kind of economic growth in Russia can we talk about ???? !!!! Money and other assets are withdrawn abroad, while the Russian Federation is really a commodity country that produces almost nothing on its own. People get only miserable crumbs .... and we constantly hear this word -BUDGET ...... even though it is purely nominal .....
    1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 57 New
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      "Money and other assets are being withdrawn abroad, while the Russian Federation is really a commodity country that produces practically nothing on its own." - My assets are all in Russia and the other 46 familiar entrepreneurs have the same assets in Russia. "The Russian Federation does not produce anything on its own" - This is complete nonsense.
      1. karabass 3 October 2019 15: 12 New
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        It’s not true that business is moving from the hinterland to MOSCOW and Moscow Region and many dream of leaving the country
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          "It’s not true now business is moving from the hinterland to MOSCOW and Moscow Region" - Well, yes, but we have no other cities - St. Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Krasnodar and many other cities.
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            Yes, perhaps you’re right, everyone is leaving Volgograd or want to leave, but the trend is not so hot
      2. Alexey-74 3 October 2019 15: 55 New
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        Your assets, including those, are percentages from the sale of minerals and other resources belonging to the Russian Federation. In the new Constitution, you will no longer find words that reinforce you - as a citizen’s right to everything in this country. A discount from all this gets 1-2% of oligarchs and companies. Your assets are pension savings that burned out after two pension reforms, etc. And you probably consider only your salary and the apartment (house) you bought or inherited as assets - ??? ... there are really very few leftovers about production in Russia, there are leftovers from the USSR. Read at your leisure for the heavy, processing, chemical, metallurgical and other industries under the Union and now - even simple statistics are depressing ....
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          "Your assets, including those, are percentages from the sale of minerals and other resources belonging to the Russian Federation." Offend, I have a large part of my assets: production equipment, services, warehouses, stocks, bonds, deposits including precious metals, investments in agriculture, real estate, and from oil and gas I have only 8% of net profit - this is repair of drilling equipment and dividends on shares. Do not worry about my "pension savings" - they will never burn out, as they are distributed over everything that can bring money. You do not compare the production of Russia with the USSR - then there was a planned economy, now a market and now in Russia there are more than 600000 different enterprises and industries from the smallest to the largest, the country is huge - but I don’t know exactly where, who, what we produce. I recently found out that in the Moscow Region there is an office which produces a reinforced, made of titanium alloys, piston rod group, for European charged sports cars SRS, for the most part 70% of its products are exported.
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            Quote: Vadim237
            I have a large part of assets: production equipment, services, warehouses, stocks, bonds, deposits including precious metals, investments in agriculture, real estate, and from oil and gas I have only 8% of net profit - this is repair of drilling equipment and dividends on stocks.

            Alisher Usmanov is it you ??? Relocate ...
      3. Umalta 4 October 2019 00: 11 New
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        I do not think that your company makes up at least some significant percentage in the total production of the Russian Federation. Talk about the largest commodity companies and petrochemicals, aluminum, etc. I believe that medium and small businesses (not the service sector, but production) exist mainly not because of, but contrary to.
  • Victorio 3 October 2019 12: 10 New
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    Because we can not or because we do not want?
    ===
    because they’re so used to it, and even for money
  • Campanella 3 October 2019 12: 36 New
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    Apparently we do not know the secrets of the bourgeois.
    The truth of their titanic attempts is not known to us.
    But seriously, nothing can be raised with such a management structure, only scribbles reports.
    And the president at the table listens to them and makes adjustments. And so for 20 years and for this great service to them, regalia of state-level advisers, bonuses and increased pensions for hard work.
    Common sense is lost in a heap of empty bureaucratic proposals and initiatives.
    Here Peskov all the time declares that the president is in the know about everything ????
    If he knows and sees everything, then what? What can you call it? Preparing for the land?
  • yehat 3 October 2019 12: 40 New
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    article author:
    long ago managed to convince of this and the entire political elite, right down to the top.

    the problem is that there is no alternative point of view in government
    all key posts are held by HSE graduates, whose competence even in the simplest models of economics raises big questions. And in principle, they do not know the development of production, how to do it - their theory concerns only the trade colonial economies, where there is only speculation and monetarism.
  • DimerVladimer 3 October 2019 12: 41 New
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    driving almost three quarters of the population into poverty, they really achieved the coveted financial stability

    Why do they need a population?
    The economic block considers the population a burden - the main revenues - oil and gas and mineral extraction tax are twice as much as VAT, and secret expenses are almost the size of VAT.

    It is more profitable for them that the population is only in the amount that would serve the oil and gas sector and serve in the army.
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      and compare with 2017 - what fell
      What increased to 20% ... but he fell?
      Woe to the government economists - the textbook doesn’t manage to control ...
    3. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 59 New
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      “And the costs in the column on the right” - Is this your oil and gas sect?
  • DimerVladimer 3 October 2019 13: 08 New
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    Economics is the body, money is the blood of the economy. Money needs a turn so that it reaches the most remote corners of the "body". If the brook is shallow, the organ becomes weaker and dies. The body does not feel this yet - large bodies still have a large flow of money.

    Think a thousand, ten thousand cells died! The doctors-professors-economists spoke. We will now add VAT and incomes will recover, but as a result, the cash flow of even more cherel and cells died more and more ...

    If we start to extract working money from the economy, why should we take taxes if the turnover drops?
  • andrew42 3 October 2019 13: 32 New
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    To establish salaries of 20-30 minimum wages for federal ministers, then the servants of the oligarchy will howl. Right the minimum wage will take off. Fiction of course. But .. when replacing the "post-capitalist" oligarchy with a socialist system, it’s not at all fantastic.
    1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 14: 05 New
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      A "post-capitalist" oligarchy on a socialist system is not at all fantastic. "There will be no socialist system, and even if you reduce 60% of all officials, you will get a maximum of 1,5 trillion rubles from the budget from this - money will not be drawn from the air, and they will need ten times more for everything about everything.
  • sailor roman 3 October 2019 13: 33 New
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    The reason is understandable - it is poverty of the general population that limits the domestic market and prevents the development of our own industry in particular and the economy in general. A small handful of large and medium-sized owners are not able to provide the necessary volume of consumption. Therefore, the basic principle of expanding the domestic market is to improve the living standards of the poorest segments of the population.
    Of course, the domestic market is not a panacea for all ills, but its expansion for our country is the only chance to develop our industry. And the army of the poor cannot be satisfied with their position, which undermines the state principles with their distrust.
  • steelmaker 3 October 2019 13: 35 New
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    The title of the article is "not in the eyebrow, but in the eye."
  • mikle1999 3 October 2019 16: 14 New
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    Surprisingly, a Russian qualified specialist crossing the border immediately begins to work 10 times better. In any case, judging by the salary.
    1. Revival 6 October 2019 00: 48 New
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      Exactly, when someone leaves us, for example, in the silicone valley begins to receive 10 times more, then apparently the lazy dog ​​was reforged from the democratic air?
      Or oh, we just don’t get paid?
      Oh well, it can’t be!)
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        Quote: Revival
        when someone leaves us, for example, in the Silicon Valley starts to receive 10 times more

        Have you seen many of these yourself? Or read on the fence?

        A guy works with me, he’s part-time now, and in Ryazan, in the middle ... a month. The programmer, like me, joke)))

        Quote: Revival
        Or oh, we just don’t get paid?

        They don’t pay for it just like that. They pay for your IP, but not enough. And normal pros are paid well here, I gave an example. Purely by the way.
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          Yes, it’s not bad to pay for our IPs, but it’s a shame for the bulk of the population, I see my mother’s mother and wife’s mother and her sister and brother, they could hardly pull out without me ...
          So I'm spraying as I can, but, damn it, I got a little bit sick
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            Quote: Revival
            pay for our ip is not bad

            There are two spelling errors in this phrase. For the current lawyer, this is ... strange, at least.

            Quote: Revival
            it’s a shame for the bulk of the population, I see from my mother and wife’s mother and her sister and my brother

            Unfortunately, no one expects the bulk of our population in Silicon Valley. For completely objective reasons.

            Not we such, Life is such request

            Quote: Revival
            So I'm spraying as I can, but, damn it, I got a little bit sick

            Similarly. I’m in a remote place now all sorts of crap control, so as not to break.

            But they pay me for it, and not bad yes
  • cdrt 3 October 2019 17: 29 New
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    who works well does it well always.
    who works poorly will work poorly no matter how much you pay him. For thoughtless and scammer.
    tested repeatedly and with a large number of employees.
  • boriz 3 October 2019 22: 14 New
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    And besides a normal salary, investments are needed in the modernization of production. Only then will labor productivity reach a decent level. And the monetization of the economy (according to various sources) is 4-8 times lower than the required level. Manufacturers do not have loans at a normal interest rate. So where does she come from, performance? And the main culprit here is precisely Nabiulina.
  • AICEMAN1988 3 October 2019 22: 18 New
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    It seems that when making decisions, our economists chop off the chicken’s head and put a wheel of fortune in the drum’s circle “a la”, and depending on where the chicken died, these or other movements are made.
  • Lexus 3 October 2019 22: 41 New
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    Yes, for such a salary it is necessary not only not to work, but also to harm a little bit! (C) Anecdote

    Do you want - do not want "Our Russia" is remembered.

    Video link:
    [media=https://rutube.ru/video/93e68e6cc5252da7f51cd081a43563b5/]
  • Umalta 3 October 2019 23: 49 New
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    Elvira Sukhozadovna and the entire left-liberal economic bloc of the government of the Russian Federation are enemies of our peoples.
  • wooja 4 October 2019 00: 09 New
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    The problem raised by the author is not particularly relevant, because it is unsolvable ...., in the framework of modern Russian politics, unfortunately the authorities do not want and cannot provide conditions for the normal functioning of the economy. The problem is not economic, but political ....
  • Sapsan136 4 October 2019 02: 32 New
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    That’s for sure, the Russians have to pay more and upgrade their machinery in the Russian Federation, then there will be an economic miracle in the Russian Federation ... but this is evident after the lady with the scythe comes for Chubais and the like, having cleansed Holy Russia!
  • Karabas 4 October 2019 09: 27 New
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    And it seems that the finally lost electorate is no longer scary.

    Why should they be scared? The security guard, pathetically called the Rosguard, will fool dissatisfied people if something happens. They also solder them for about 7 years, if they looked dissatisfied without respect in their direction. They are paid for this regularly and normally, they are happy to try.
  • Dedok 4 October 2019 09: 59 New
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    I don’t understand even: Related - almost no discussion, some bots on the site?
  • place 4 October 2019 10: 00 New
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    The Russians are the only nation in the history of mankind that, for the sake of "privatization", allowed to ruin their country and even shoot their parliament from tanks in peacetime! If Russians love market relations to such an extent, why should they pay? Liberal ideas “shine” for them instead of the sun, they spread them on bread - eat on health.
  • Lynx33 4 October 2019 13: 10 New
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    As we love the mantra about poverty. However, it is worth leaving the house and you see: housing is being built in several city blocks at once, and apartments worth several million rubles diverge like hot cakes. You only approach the house that has been handed over, and the parking lot is full of new, by no means cheap, foreign cars, you drive along the street, every 10th car has a disabled sign, and the car is by no means a Lada, but something like a Hyundai cret or Renault Duster. Otkel money, Zin, you are our poor.
  • vanavatny 4 October 2019 23: 05 New
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    I remind you: at the beginning of the year, the commander-in-chief promised: literally all the Russians will feel better already this year ... there are those who believe that this will not be an ordinary TV nonsense? Less than three months remain, but if you don’t wipe your eyes, you won’t see the start of a grandiose work , on the contrary, even in armored limousines, it seems, they drew attention to a certain drop in revenues, explaining, however, that this was actually reflected in us by the next strengthening of the macroeconomics ... and this is also a year of amazing discoveries for our president: it turned out, for example, that the demographic situation that has been talked about so much and corrected so well in recent years has suddenly turned into a catastrophe, that there is something that has been fondly called problems in the primary health care sector, that Putin’s powerful economic breakthrough is increasingly mentioned with the word recession ... anyway: already this year all Russians will feel better for the better ...
    1. Wolverine Wolverine 5 October 2019 16: 46 New
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      But there will be improvements for the participants of the cooperative "Lake", and ordinary people will still be interrupted from bread to water! There is no freedom of election! Everywhere they push Edro, opposition parties throw out!
  • Wolverine Wolverine 5 October 2019 16: 44 New
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    The article is not for screaders and people with brain patriotism! They argued that salaries are certainly lower than in the US, but prices are much lower and should be enough!
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    Quote: Prosha
    I wrote about the stalls, to the fact that people need to be taught not only how to work, but how to make money, without the ability to organize production of anything, everything will end with a beer stall.
    Are you adventurous? Do you have any ideas? Do you have your own business? Then we go to you! (Advertising tax)
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    Quote: Grandfather Kastary
    Have you tried to pay them more?
    Nope ... But what, it will give an effect? recourse

    In ... Therefore, sit in .ope with this approach ...
    Imagine, already gives, and for a long time.
    In the same 'rotting shave', for example.
    Try to hold on to at least a penny on the paycheck of some kind of “enterprising and effective” for your hard worker, or not to ensure the working conditions, the materiel will be sent immediately to the erotic on foot.
    And the methods 'yes where do you get to / dozens of people wishing for the fence', etc. no longer channel.
    And you will disappear, and you will not find behind the fence during the day with fire (except maybe a drunk / drug addict).