In China: Dongfeng 41 ICBMs turn West into little brother

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Chinese citizens were clearly impressed by the grand military parade held in Beijing the day before. During the parade, the latest examples of Chinese weapons and military equipment were demonstrated, including those that the PLA and developers had never officially demonstrated.





In the military section of the Chinese resource SINA, it is noted that for the first time so massively demonstrated the most powerful weapon Republic of China - intercontinental missiles. These are three versions of the Dongfeng missiles ("East Wind") - in versions 31AG, 5B and 41, as well as Julang 2.

In the comments on the material about the mass demonstration of ICBMs, Chinese users did not spare epithets: from statements about China’s readiness to maintain world parity in terms of armaments to frank statements about the "superiority" of the Chinese armed forces.

Here are a few comments by Chinese users, including the published broadcast of the parade in the Chinese segment of social networks.

Dongfeng rockets showed for the United States. Others could not watch.


Before the advent of Dongfeng 5, the West often threatened the possibility of a nuclear strike. The appearance of Dongfeng 5A silenced the West. After the appearance of Dongfeng 31A, the West began to feel uncomfortable. And the advent of Dongfeng 41 turned the West into a younger brother.

This parade is a demonstration of trump cards in a card game.

On Chinese television, it is noted that China has shown "significant success in strengthening defense on the 70 anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic of China."

Meanwhile, the Western press continues to publish materials stating that during the Beijing parade, "the police violated the rights of protesters in Hong Kong." And on the network there was a photo from protests in Hong Kong, where on a white helmet with a red cross you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"

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  1. +9
    2 October 2019 12: 20
    “Dongfeng rockets showed for the United States. Others could not watch.

    “Before the advent of Dongfeng 5, the West often threatened the possibility of a nuclear strike. The appearance of the Dongfeng 5B silenced the West. After the appearance of the Dongfeng 31A, the West began to feel uncomfortable. And the advent of Dongfeng 41 turned the West into a younger brother.

    “This parade is like a show of trump cards in a card game.

    Shorter showed the jade rod to the states ... belay
    1. +2
      2 October 2019 12: 58
      mine-based jade wand - poetically ...
  2. +11
    2 October 2019 12: 22
    In principle, the West has become not only a younger brother, but a very real target. In general, this parade is a new proof that speaking with China from a position of strength is now inappropriate for either the United States or the West.
    1. -12
      2 October 2019 12: 26
      All of the above you apply fully to Russia, and not just to the West.
      1. +21
        2 October 2019 12: 37
        Russia has never in its recent history spoken from a position of strength with China, and the USSR, too, a very long time ago, a remark is inappropriate. China has an overwhelming advantage in manpower and a clear quantitative advantage in conventional weapons; in nuclear weapons there is no need for Russia to prove anything.
        1. +4
          2 October 2019 22: 33
          At the expense of "brother" - they are in vain.
          They are neither their brothers nor us.
          And were never brothers
        2. 0
          4 October 2019 11: 02
          But the incidents in Damansky (which the damned Yeltsin gave to China) and a number of similar ones - is not considered? And is the 2nd largest grouping of forces on the Chinese border not a manifestation of force? then I do not know
      2. 0
        2 October 2019 12: 41
        The whole territory of Russia has long been shot through by the Chinese infantry infantry
        1. +22
          2 October 2019 12: 46
          And the whole territory of China is shot by ours. So what?
        2. -25
          2 October 2019 12: 51
          All Siberia and the Urals are already clogged with Chinese under the most I do not want! And no rockets needed. They have a different strategy for conquering the world.
          1. +6
            2 October 2019 17: 14
            You tactfully so the Bashkirs and the Siberian peoples recorded in the Chinese?
          2. +1
            2 October 2019 22: 33
            Have you ever been to the Urals to write such nonsense?
            1. 0
              5 October 2019 07: 22
              I live in the Urals. And by the nature of my work, I know how many and whom arrived to us. Legal and not and not legal!
      3. +9
        2 October 2019 12: 41
        Quote: voyaka uh
        All of the above you apply fully to Russia, and not just to the West.

        Of course, but China, with its missiles, used to get us before because of its geographical proximity, but now it has affected Americans specifically! And this is despite the fact that China is very vulnerable due to territorial and geographical features. Now it is leveled. drinks All three in the same boat, called - planet Earth.
        1. -3
          2 October 2019 14: 14
          And we constantly drive this boat onto the rocks.
          1. +6
            2 October 2019 14: 34
            Quote: Sergey 23
            And we constantly drive this boat onto the rocks.

            Specify who this "we" is?
            1. +2
              2 October 2019 14: 41
              Yes, almost everyone who is in the boat with a different share of participation !!!!
              1. +3
                2 October 2019 14: 44
                The more owners of nuclear weapons on earth, the greater the likelihood
              2. 0
                2 October 2019 14: 47
                Quote: Sergey 23
                Yes, almost everyone who is in the boat with a different share of participation !!!!

                Could you be more specific about us (RF)?
      4. +8
        2 October 2019 12: 47
        Quote: voyaka uh
        All of the above you apply fully to Russia, and not just to the West.

        Maybe you’ll name those insoluble contradictions that we and China currently have in order to threaten each other with missiles? Complicated. But for a showdown with the West, there are more than enough contradictions both in China and in our country, which, on the contrary, motivates us to expand cooperation and interaction.
        80% of China's trade turnover is carried out by sea, which makes it vulnerable in the event of full-scale hostilities, and Russia is a guarantee that not a small part of the cargo traffic can be carried out by land. Someday, in the distant future, some trails between the Russian Federation and China are possible, but definitely not now. Now, the joint efforts of the Russian Federation and the PRC can dispel the authority of the "hegemon" to dust and turn it into a regional power.
        1. -29
          2 October 2019 12: 56
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Maybe you’ll name those insoluble contradictions that we and China currently have in order to threaten each other with missiles? Complicated.

          Easily. China has territorial claims against Russia. There are no such claims to the West.
          1. +19
            2 October 2019 13: 18
            China will develop, including territorially, to the South! It is more profitable from different points of view and safer. So sho, yours do not dance, but you can draw different cards, I saw cards that do not have Israel ...... so what? fellow
            1. -14
              2 October 2019 14: 10
              Quote: neri73-r
              China will develop, including territorially, to the South! It is more profitable from different points of view and safer. So sho, yours do not dance, but you can draw different cards, I saw cards that do not have Israel ...... so what? fellow

              In the south of China, the sea or densely populated territories, and in the north, uninhabited open spaces saturated with minerals. However, the north of China has already begun to develop.

              And the Chinese in China showed me this map. "Let's take back our historical lands" - they said.
              1. +14
                2 October 2019 14: 16
                Quote: professor
                And the Chinese in China showed me this map. "Let's take back our historical lands" - they said.

                Probably they asked for your help .......... laughing tongue
                1. -14
                  2 October 2019 14: 17
                  Quote: neri73-r
                  Quote: professor
                  And the Chinese in China showed me this map. "Let's take back our historical lands" - they said.

                  Probably they asked for your help .......... laughing tongue

                  No. They just shared the secret with a beer.
                  1. +11
                    2 October 2019 14: 20
                    Quote: professor
                    No. They just shared the secret with a beer.

                    I want a beautiful and young neighbor under a glass of beer, but ........ as I wanted, so I continue to want ......, wanting is not harmful! wassat
                    1. -14
                      2 October 2019 14: 24
                      Quote: neri73-r
                      Quote: professor
                      No. They just shared the secret with a beer.

                      I want a beautiful and young neighbor under a glass of beer, but ........ as I wanted, so I continue to want ......, wanting is not harmful! wassat

                      Nevertheless, they lay claim to this territory and are already mastering it. That is what it is about.

                      Quote: neri73-r
                      Quote: professor
                      In the south of China, the sea or densely populated territories, and in the north, uninhabited open spaces saturated with minerals.

                      Do not bother, you understand what I mean! Japan before and during WWII did not expand to the north; in the south, minerals are not much less, but much less protected !!! hi

                      Again. North of China, a sparsely populated area rich in minerals. There is nothing attractive in the south.
                      1. +5
                        2 October 2019 14: 30
                        Quote: professor
                        North of China, a sparsely populated area rich in minerals. There is nothing attractive in the south.

                        The territory may be sparsely populated, but deadly for them, and for others, armed. And this small population will not give it up, and if you try to take it by force, then what for it dead Chinese! Something like this, your hotel with the Chinese, and with others, the Wishlist will not work, from the word in general, but in the south ......, but if the hegmon is forced to leave us together ........ .....honey..... tongue
                      2. -16
                        2 October 2019 14: 36
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Quote: professor
                        North of China, a sparsely populated area rich in minerals. There is nothing attractive in the south.

                        The territory may be sparsely populated, but deadly for them, and for others, armed. And this small population will not give it up, and if you try to take it by force, then what for it dead Chinese! Something like this, your hotel with the Chinese, and with others, the Wishlist will not work, from the word in general, but in the south ......, but if the hegmon is forced to leave us together ........ .....honey..... tongue

                        1. This territory is already at the practical disposal of the Chinese.
                        2. The number of Russian weapons as well as the number of Russian people continue to decrease in this territory.
                        3. The word "generally" should be put in quotation marks.
                      3. +6
                        2 October 2019 14: 42
                        Quote: professor
                        3. The word "generally" should be put in quotation marks.

                        According to the rules, you can not take it, you can separate it with a dash, etc., but in any case, thanks for the training, there is no money, there is nothing to pay! love
                        Quote: professor
                        1. This territory is already at the practical disposal of the Chinese.

                        In your dreams!
                        Quote: professor
                        2. The number of Russian weapons as well as the number of Russian people continue to decrease in this territory.

                        A very controversial statement, especially by type, well, yes, okay, but what about quality, how about advanced developments, how to hypersound, how about the price of weapons with the same characteristics? Huh?
                      4. -9
                        2 October 2019 15: 22
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Quote: professor
                        1. This territory is already at the practical disposal of the Chinese.

                        In your dreams!

                        I'm not cold or hot from your Far East. I don’t dream of him. Nevertheless, the Chinese are bossing there. And we all know how they manage to host.

                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Quote: professor
                        2. The number of Russian weapons as well as the number of Russian people continue to decrease in this territory.

                        A very controversial statement, especially by type, well, yes, okay, but what about quality, how about advanced developments, how to hypersound, how about the price of weapons with the same characteristics? Huh?

                        Not at all controversial. This topic has been discussed at VO repeatedly. On the basis of arsenals in the world of armaments. China today also showed them at the parade. Only in layouts, not in cartoons. They are one step ahead of you. wink
                      5. +5
                        2 October 2019 15: 26
                        Quote: professor
                        Only in layouts, not in cartoons. They are one step ahead of you.

                        Ohhh, then I'm calm! The main thing is that as the United States and Petriot in Saudi Arabia do not show when protecting airspace, and cartoons and layouts are incomparably better than such fighting Petriots !!! tongue
                      6. -1
                        3 October 2019 06: 55
                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Quote: professor
                        Only in layouts, not in cartoons. They are one step ahead of you.

                        Ohhh, then I'm calm! The main thing is that as the United States and Petriot in Saudi Arabia do not show when protecting airspace, and cartoons and layouts are incomparably better than such fighting Petriots !!! tongue

                        The main thing is that you do not succeed.

                        For our Patriots, I am calm, and the Saudi ones do not interest me.

                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Evidence in the studio!



                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        To the south of the border, China has the same sparsely populated territory, the entire population density of which is provided by several large cities. But China, unable to populate this territory, will undoubtedly climb even farther north, to areas with an even worse climate.

                        South of the border of China is not a priori Chinese territory, however, as well as to the north. The climate of the north of China and the territories of Russia adjacent to China do not differ. See map above. However, the north of China is actively developing despite the "harsh climate".

                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        For China, it’s cheaper to buy minerals from the northern territory from Aboriginal people - they will gladly sell everything.

                        So far, yes. Sell ​​at a cheap price.
                      7. +1
                        3 October 2019 09: 02
                        Quote: professor
                        The main thing is that you do not succeed.

                        З

                        Oh, advocate, this video has already been taken apart. Overloaded a single complex with a massive attack! And why is it like this, you can see the complex is working, shooting back, but there are not enough channels, because there is one. A completely different situation. We don’t travel one at a time, we have trains! tongue But the Petriots, excuse me, crap one's pants, by low altitude, did not even notice, are not capable, in short sucks. Buy from us.
                        Quote: professor

                        Quote: neri73-r
                        Evidence in the studio!



                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        To the south of the border, China has the same sparsely populated territory, the entire population density of which is provided by several large cities. But China, unable to populate this territory, will undoubtedly climb even farther north, to areas with an even worse climate.

                        Do not read Soviet newspapers in the morning! If the stars light up (all kinds of investigations go out there), then someone needs this! Come to us in Siberia and on D. Vostok, you will see everything for yourself. fellow
                        Quote: professor
                        So far, yes. Sell ​​at a cheap price.

                        The main thing that would be profitable! And on the cheap or not, so you probably forgot - the hand of the market! lol
                      8. +2
                        2 October 2019 15: 27
                        Quote: professor
                        I'm not cold or hot from your Far East. I don’t dream of him. Nevertheless, the Chinese are bossing there.

                        Evidence in the studio!
                      9. +7
                        2 October 2019 16: 13
                        "One step ahead of YOU" is the key phrase .... I have never heard of the dominance of the Chinese in Siberia from the Siberians - but our non-brothers see them from a distance ... Yes, we have cartoons, cartoons, calm down !! There is no bridge, no streams build, sleep well, patriot !!
                      10. +5
                        2 October 2019 15: 19
                        So far, Africa with its wealth is more attractive and economically accessible.
                      11. +2
                        2 October 2019 16: 21
                        Quote: professor
                        North of China, a sparsely populated area rich in minerals.

                        To the south of the border, China has the same sparsely populated territory, the entire population density of which is provided by several large cities. But China, unable to populate this territory, will undoubtedly climb even farther north, to areas with an even worse climate. smile
                        For China, it’s cheaper to buy minerals from the northern territory from Aboriginal people - they will gladly sell everything.
                      12. +4
                        2 October 2019 17: 33
                        Quote: professor
                        North of China, a sparsely populated area rich in minerals.

                        The northern provinces of China are sparsely populated. The climate is severe, few people want to live there. About 6% of the population lives in the northern and western provinces, the remaining people settled in the central and eastern parts of the country.
                        And in Siberia, the climate is even harsher than in northern China. And with every hundred kilometers to the north, it is harsher and harsher.
                      13. +3
                        3 October 2019 10: 47
                        Quote: Captain Pushkin
                        And in Siberia, the climate is even harsher than in northern China. And with every hundred kilometers to the north, it is harsher and harsher.

                        Well, the Jews cannot understand this! For a long time they faded from the Jewish Autonomous .... wassat
                      14. 0
                        3 October 2019 11: 44
                        Quote: professor
                        There is nothing attractive in the south.

                        Will you be in Singapore, tell this to the local Chinese ...
              2. +1
                2 October 2019 14: 18
                Quote: professor
                In the south of China, the sea or densely populated territories, and in the north, uninhabited open spaces saturated with minerals.

                Do not bother, you understand what I mean! Japan before and during WWII did not expand to the north; in the south, minerals are not much less, but much less protected !!! hi
          2. +6
            2 October 2019 13: 21
            Already got with his delirium
          3. 0
            2 October 2019 18: 34
            Fuhhh! Thank you Professor. I looked at the map and realized that my city was outside of China. And then I was about to transfer my family to the Urals.
            1. 0
              3 October 2019 07: 01
              Quote: ltc35
              Fuhhh! Thank you Professor. I looked at the map and realized that my city was outside of China. And then I was about to transfer my family to the Urals.

              What for? wink In China, the standard of living is already higher than yours. A mechanical engineer with three years of experience receives on your 180 000 per month. A hard worker without the profession of 60 000.
              Quote: APASUS
              Quote: professor
              Easily. China has territorial claims against Russia. There are no such claims to the West.

              What are the specific claims against Russia and please do not sculpt a map of China somewhere in the 1127-1279 region.

              Quote: Astronaut
              China has territorial claims against Russia

              In the course of the settlement of territorial disputes with China under several bilateral agreements in 1992-2008. Russia transferred the Celestial Island Damansky Island, Tarabarov Island, part of the territory of the Bolshoi Island and the western part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island.
              So you have very outdated information!

              The USSR also signed treaties on borders with Finland and the Baltic countries, and then "randomly" these territories ended up in the USSR. Recently, Crimea was also Ukrainian, enshrined in the Russian-Ukrainian agreement, and suddenly it is Russian. Tellingly, both Finland and the Baltic countries and even Ukraine, to put it mildly, OBJECTED against the redrawing of borders, but ... fellow
              1. 0
                3 October 2019 17: 23
                Hello Professor! I’m not worried about money! I do not like their mentality. In Siberia, we are somewhat different from the other population of Russia in our independence and the concepts that are still embedded in us by our grandfathers. No wonder that during the Second World War Siberian divisions were sent to the most difficult sections of the fronts. To this day we live.
          4. +1
            2 October 2019 20: 04
            Quote: professor
            Easily. China has territorial claims against Russia. There are no such claims to the West.

            What are the specific claims against Russia and please do not sculpt a map of China somewhere in the 1127-1279 region.
          5. +3
            2 October 2019 20: 52
            This is all about Taiwan, which considers itself to be real China. And then he just has a claim to everyone. Even to Israel.
          6. +2
            2 October 2019 22: 39
            China has territorial claims against Russia

            In the course of the settlement of territorial disputes with China under several bilateral agreements in 1992-2008. Russia transferred the Celestial Island Damansky Island, Tarabarov Island, part of the territory of the Bolshoi Island and the western part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island.
            So you have very outdated information!
      5. 0
        2 October 2019 22: 31
        China and Arabs are threatened, all but ...
    2. +6
      2 October 2019 12: 26
      What can a parade prove?

      Combat experience, and especially the experience of large-scale military operations, they completely lack.
      Wehrmacht and does not smell, not that school.
      1. +5
        2 October 2019 12: 42
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        What can a parade prove?

        1. That the Chinese leadership also loves rattling new military toys to the delight of the public.
        2. What China also wants in the arms race, otherwise Che is only us and the Americans.
        3. That the Chinese, in which case, also now can loudly slam the door, leaving for Valhalla.

        And a photo from the protests in Hong Kong appeared on the network, where on a white helmet with the image of a red cross you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"

        As a bonus, this particular pepper proves that among the residents of Hong Kong there are also village idiots.
      2. -1
        2 October 2019 15: 12
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        What can a parade prove?

        Combat experience, and especially the experience of large-scale military operations, they completely lack.
        Wehrmacht and does not smell, not that school.

        I agree, watching them march, you can sleep peacefully, the sharper the step, the lower the BG.
      3. +4
        2 October 2019 22: 17
        Combat experience, and especially the experience of large-scale military operations, they completely lack.


        The Korean war was fought by the Chinese infantry with the support of Chinese and Soviet aircraft. It was they who, having entered the war in the 50th, pulled out a practically lost war by the northerners. It was the Chinese who broke the Americans in the way that neither the Japanese nor the Germans broke in. They even had ace pilots in that war. According to official data from the PRC, the Chinese army lost 390 thousand people in the Korean War. Of these: 114 were killed during the hostilities; 084 thousand died of wounds; 21,6 thousand died of disease; 13 captured or missing [25]; 621 thousand wounded in battle. In this war, the son of Mao died.
        There you go guys.
        1. 0
          3 October 2019 01: 26
          The Chinese fought very strongly in Korean.
        2. 0
          3 October 2019 11: 47
          they fought with Vietnam ...
      4. +1
        3 October 2019 11: 37
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        Combat experience, and especially the experience of large-scale military operations, they completely lack.

        I'm embarrassed to ask, weren't the Chinese carrying the main load in the Korean War? And didn't the Chinese move the "UN troops" (mostly American) from the northern border to Seoul?
        The war with Japan and the civil war do not seem to count at all.?
    3. -6
      2 October 2019 13: 21
      Quote: bessmertniy
      In principle, the West has become not only a younger brother, but a very real target. In general, this parade is a new proof that speaking with China from a position of strength is now inappropriate for either the United States or the West.
      West, i.e. Europe - The Target? Are you bleached overeat? China will shoot at Europe through the Russian Federation, Yes, we will knock down all of their missiles, and let’s blow it ourselves so as not to be naughty.
      1. 0
        2 October 2019 17: 40
        Ballistic missiles fly in a parabola, the territory of the Russian Federation they will pass in the stratosphere, there is nothing to shoot them down there. Yes, and China will not throw a jade stick from a bay-flounder to Europe, the mentality is not the same.
        1. 0
          2 October 2019 20: 51
          This is not for me, but for bessmertniy. feel
  3. +1
    2 October 2019 12: 29
    There is nothing joyful in that and in the like .... it’s an instrument of war and it’s just to consider that it is a means to maintain relative peace, as it is uncomfortable.
    Let there be a balance ... only this should have its limits.
  4. -2
    2 October 2019 12: 29
    It is necessary to recognize the technological backwardness of the West from the PRC. In literally two decades, China was able to rise from the "screwdriver" of Western countries to incredible technological heights, surpassing the United States and the European Union.
  5. +1
    2 October 2019 12: 30
    The military section of the Chinese resource SINA noted that for the first time so massively demonstrated the most powerful weapon of the People’s Republic of China - intercontinental missiles. These are three versions of the Dongfeng ("East Wind") missiles - in versions 31AG, 5B and 41, as well as Julang 2.

    At least, some hot little heads behind a puddle will make you think.

    And a photo from the protests in Hong Kong appeared on the network, where on a white helmet with the image of a red cross you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"

    Somewhere we have already seen this)) laughing
  6. +1
    2 October 2019 12: 32
    you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"
    Something reminds me of it ...
  7. +2
    2 October 2019 12: 37
    And a photo from the protests in Hong Kong appeared on the network, where on a white helmet with the image of a red cross you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"

    Why not in the pan?
    Xi Jinping is not Yanukovych. There will be no ceremony. "Pechenkovozov" - for kichu, "stone blocks" - for "heavenly million".
  8. 0
    2 October 2019 12: 42
    The Dongfeng 41 ICBM looks suspiciously like a poplar.
    1. 0
      2 October 2019 12: 49
      Hinting at a phallic symbol? smile
    2. +4
      2 October 2019 12: 53
      Rallies in Hong Kong ...
      Is the acid dousing guards rally?
      In fact, in all countries this is classified as a terrorist act.
      We remember the rallies of 13 years in Kiev.
      Protesters there threw the order of the Molotov cocktail.
      And law enforcement officers were forbidden to use weapons.
      It ended with a coup, thousands of victims and the ongoing civil war.
      The state in the first place and at all times is a mechanism of coercion.
      By the way, the forces of nuclear potential are also a coercive mechanism.
      Forcing the presumptuous global aggressor to peace.
  9. KCA
    +1
    2 October 2019 12: 56
    "Hong Kong Observatory" from London sent "white helmets"?
  10. 0
    2 October 2019 13: 01
    Dongfeng rockets showed for the United States. Others could not watch.

    One might think that these are the only missiles aimed at the "Stars and Stripes" partners. negative
  11. +2
    2 October 2019 13: 04
    Quote: voyaka uh
    to Russia

    We don't give a damn: "Poseidons" and "Sarmats" that 10 million Israelis, that 330 million Americans, that 1,4 billion Chinese - all are one.
  12. 0
    2 October 2019 13: 14
    And a photo from the protests in Hong Kong appeared on the network, where on a white helmet with the image of a red cross you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"
    Soon these inscriptions will appear on the moon and on Mars. feel Internet technology however.
  13. +2
    2 October 2019 13: 33
    Quote: professor
    China has territorial claims against Russia.

    laughing It became very bad ... wassat
  14. 0
    2 October 2019 14: 20
    The most interesting pictures were not shown. These are missiles from the Yu-71 ...
  15. 0
    2 October 2019 14: 58
    something this crap reminds me))))
  16. 0
    2 October 2019 15: 16
    China lost its northern territories when it was weak. If Russia is weak, then China may recall the injustice of the Nanking treaty.
    1. -4
      2 October 2019 17: 25
      All territorial claims of Russia and China have long been resolved EBNom, learn history!
      1. +1
        2 October 2019 17: 32
        There are no eternal solutions and arrangements. Everything has a specific value at a particular time. There are many historical examples to this effect. One is Damansky Island.
        1. -1
          2 October 2019 17: 35
          And where is that island now? EBN could have rid the whole Siberia of the Chinese, but they did not need it.
  17. +3
    2 October 2019 18: 34
    "I am tormented by vague doubts ..." (C)
    It is possible, of course, that the Chinese have gone far ahead in terms of aiming systems, but alas, to me, a retrograde, I do not see the slightest sign of their presence on the Dongfeng photos, which are 41. Neither gyrocompasses according to our fashion, nor at least hatches in the TPK for external bindings.
    If my version is correct, it’s either a fake or SPU, which launches from a specific tethered monolith or launch pad on the principle of Korean navel missiles.
    The back of the TPK is also weird

    It seems that it doesn’t have any mobile parts like ours, but if you imagine TPK upright, it does not reach the ground explicitly.
    All this IMHO, of course.
    1. +1
      2 October 2019 19: 28
      Also I think
  18. -1
    2 October 2019 18: 49
    Let the US and its satellites scare ... But Russia is unlikely! wink
    The Soviet foundation is felt, so usually liberal protesters are scared and howl in the media bred, to the nest of the United States -Israel .. hehe
    Come on, China, you, the USA is already about 2 trillion. must and others.
    Russia will support, for a certain percentage .. hehe
    1. -2
      2 October 2019 19: 27
      Propaganda cruelly brainwashed you, only China is dreaming of your lands !!!
  19. 0
    2 October 2019 19: 26
    China after the collapse of the USSR went to military developments, which former and not former military sold secrets of missile systems for a small fee. China is trying to copy how it knows how to do it for Russia, but in its own way ... what looks like a military parade of the 80s. There are many clones that all Soviet developments on earth and in the air, but with a Chinese bend ... but Russia should not help China with weapons, these are the latest developments in the field of aviation and EVERYTHING !!!
    1. +1
      3 October 2019 11: 52
      Quote: maksut nurgaliev
      China after the collapse of the USSR went to military developments, which former and not former military sold secrets of missile systems for a small fee.

      China acquired from the USSR more valuable than not the first freshness of rockets and electronics - the specialists who developed these rockets and electronics and much more. And for a very modest money. At the initial stage in the 90s, the equivalent of 500-1000 dollars a month was enough.
      Moreover, they recruited not only specialists from the defense industry who were dismissed to reduce or liquidate the enterprise, but specialists from absolutely all industries. And not only from the republics of the former USSR, but also from the European Union and the USA.
      This is one of the main components of China's current success.
  20. 0
    2 October 2019 19: 39
    on a white helmet with a red cross you can see such an inscription as "Glory to Hong Kong! Glory to the heroes!"

    Damn, tenacious mold!
  21. +3
    2 October 2019 20: 17
    Quote: Pavel57
    The Dongfeng 41 ICBM looks suspiciously like a poplar.

    Yeah. And for everyone else too. To conclude on the basis of TPK is very new


    Quote: Moore
    "I am tormented by vague doubts ..." (C)
    It is possible, of course, that the Chinese have gone far ahead in terms of aiming systems, but alas, to me, a retrograde, I do not see the slightest sign of their presence on the Dongfeng photos, which are 41. Neither gyrocompasses according to our fashion, nor at least hatches in the TPK for external bindings.
    If my version is correct, it’s either a fake or SPU, which launches from a specific tethered monolith or launch pad on the principle of Korean navel missiles.
    The back of the TPK is also weird

    It seems that it doesn’t have any mobile parts like ours, but if you imagine TPK upright, it does not reach the ground explicitly.
    All this IMHO, of course.

    Well, they have a certain seat at the junction of the TPK cap with the TPK itself. It seems that the top device is simply not installed. But the AGK is not even visible.
    The back part is of course remotely similar to the PAD, but whether it reaches the ground or not - HZ
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  23. +1
    3 October 2019 07: 21
    here, they themselves armed, then China. for example, we take the same Wikipedia and read ........... The development of both nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles the first time (in the 1950s) took place in cooperation with the USSR, on October 15, 1957 it was signed special agreement, which implied the transfer of the model of the bomb and the technical documentation for it [....... well, the question is, what the hell did you have to do this? well, there will never be China, never a brother or a good neighbor. A nation that has existed for more than a thousand years has learned to survive, in historical conflicts, to trick, deceive strangers, and at the same time smile sweetly. we must understand that China is different, and it will remain. you need to keep an eye on him, and remember the events in Daman. but our leadership does not learn, neither from its mistakes, nor from others. it's a pity.

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