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Forbes: Americans should not be afraid of China's military power

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Chinese military and technological power is overrated, according to Forbes military expert Craig Hooper. The United States is capable of producing weaponat least no worse and at a similar pace.




The military parade dedicated to the National Day of the People’s Republic of China was a buffet of new products for Western observers. Again and again, this action relayed the idea that the Chinese armed forces, with the support of local production, are a professional force that few can compare with. Of course, Beijing has made tremendous strides. But Western observers do not need to help build China's reputation, Mr. Hooper said.

The observer notes that the habit of talking about the great power of Chinese weapons gives the military-industrial complex of China undeserved trust.

As an example, the author cites shipbuilding. Of course, it is frightening that China has released sixty 056 type corvettes and twenty 052D type destroyers in seven years. But do not forget, the expert recalls, that America has already demonstrated a similar ability. Between the 1975 and the 1980 year, the United States ordered thirty Spruens destroyers. America still has such capabilities - the shipyard, currently owned by Huntington Ingalls, still exists today and collects Coast Guard boats, destroyers and landing ships.



The pace is not impressive


What about the Chinese sixty 1500-ton 056 corvettes? These are small ships, similar to which the United States Navy does not even build, although they could. In fact, the US Coast Guard is building almost sixty 350-ton boats at one of the Bollinger shipyards in Louisiana and the commissioning of thirty-five vessels at once will take place in about seven years. Both appearance and pace of work can be increased to a level corresponding to 056 type corvettes.

Reception naval fleet The first of seven Chinese amphibious docking ships of type 071 occurred in 2007, and the rest have either either begun operation or are preparing for it, which is proclaimed a great success. At the same time, America quietly commissioned ten much more advanced amphibious ships of the San Antonio class. And although they from the very beginning could boast of terrible history shipyard construction, Huntington Ingalls' ultimate success in this project has been underestimated, says Hooper.

China wants the American public to be afraid of its military, the text says. But you don’t need to do this, Hooper writes. According to him, the last thing they want in the Celestial Empire is for international observers to abandon their fears and begin to understand that a large military-industrial complex called “Made in China” is just “an imperfect cover for creeping authoritarianism that is afraid of its own people,” summarizes the author.
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  1. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 2 October 2019 12: 53
    +37
    The problem for the Americans is not "should or should not be afraid of China's military might," but that China is no longer afraid of US military might. yes
    1. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 2 October 2019 12: 57
      +10
      The US is capable of producing weapons, at least no worse and at a similar pace.

      And how do you like this phrase? Those. not better, not worse. Is this not a recognition of China’s military power?
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 2 October 2019 15: 29
        +1
        China wants the American public to be afraid of its military, the text says. But you don’t need to do this, Hooper writes.
        According to Hooper, the last thing they want in the Celestial Empire (we must assume that we are talking about Hong Kong) - so that international observers abandoned their fears and began to realize that a large military-industrial complex titled Made in China is only "an imperfect cover for a CREEPING AUTHORITARISM that FEARS OF ITS own people"summarizes the author.

        If journalistic hints missed by Hooper are denoted by real links, then Hooper's article is nothing but the military incitement of foreign states - the United States and other countries of the international community - to intervene with impunity forcibly in the internal affairs of China to forcefully change the existing political system with the removal of Xi Jinping from the country's leadership.
        In other words, this is the propaganda in the media of a foreign armed coup d'etat in the PRC to change the political regime there in favor of the dominance of "American democracy" from Washington.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 2 October 2019 21: 38
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          In other words, this is the propaganda in the media of a foreign armed coup d'etat in the PRC to change the political regime there in favor of the dominance of "American democracy" from Washington.

          This is exactly what the finals do, they want to undermine the foundation of China’s political leadership. A tried and tested technique, many have experienced it in their own skin. But at the same time, the anxiety of the increasing power of the Chinese Navy is felt in the words of the observer. Compared to the 2009 year, the capacity of Chinese shipyards has increased by many, and the Chinese continue to increase capacity. So the concern in the article of the observer is not without soil, although the article is bravura.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 October 2019 21: 59
            -1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            So the concern in the article is not without soil, although the article and BRAVURNAYA.

            Namely article BRAVURNAYA!
            I say that this article is also "inflammatory" - and in the spirit of apologetics for the superiority in the world of power solutions of the already deceased McCain from the "war party" in the US Congress!
    2. eagle owl
      eagle owl 2 October 2019 12: 58
      +4
      Yes Yes. recalls the fall of Rome - at first the United States controlled the satellites, and defended themselves, their interests with their hands ... And now, no matter how the retinue begins to play the king - the same NATO is a burden for the USA, about what Trump says
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 October 2019 12: 59
      +7
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      The problem for the Americans is not "should or should not be afraid of China's military might," but that China is no longer afraid of US military might. yes

      The problem is that ordinary Americans need to be afraid of their government and elites, not China or the Russian Federation.
      1. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 2 October 2019 13: 44
        +3
        The USA divides all countries of the world into those who are simply afraid of them and those who are very afraid of them. They have long forgotten about those times when their country did not inspire fear in the world, but respect and the desire for cooperation on mutually beneficial conditions.
      2. Labrador
        Labrador 2 October 2019 15: 05
        +3
        ordinary Americans need to fear their government and elites

        However, not only they should be afraid of their government - in our prostitutes, too, more than unfortunately ...
    4. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 2 October 2019 13: 30
      +10
      America has already demonstrated a similar ability. Between the 1975 and the 1980 year, the United States ordered thirty Spruens destroyers.

      I remembered the times when even jeans in America still produced their own.)))
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 2 October 2019 13: 58
        +1
        The American counters are littered with Chinese consumer goods, and they are trying to explain to the Americans who in the world is the greatest economy and industry. wassat
  2. eagle owl
    eagle owl 2 October 2019 12: 56
    0
    Is it possible at the moment - a DIRECT clash of the US and Chinese forces? Theoretically, it’s understandable, but what will it lead to in practice?
    1. novel66
      novel66 2 October 2019 13: 12
      +6
      depending on where. off its shores China is already invincible
      1. D16
        D16 2 October 2019 14: 06
        -1
        off its shores China is already invincible

        Fighting with the genotype off the coast is inconvenient. Won't take off laughing
      2. eagle owl
        eagle owl 2 October 2019 14: 51
        +2

        The yellow circles represent the range of the Chinese DF-26 missiles. They are often referred to simply as medium-range missiles, but in reality they are about converting the American Pershing medium-range ballistic missiles into an anti-ship version. Even theoretically, the probability of intercepting a warhead does not exceed 5-7%, while the probability of hitting a target the size of an aircraft carrier exceeds 83,8%.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 2 October 2019 13: 37
      +7
      Quote: Uhu
      but what will it lead to in practice?

      No need to fear nuclear war. Let half of humanity perish, but the remaining half will live under communism.
      Mao Tse Dong
      laughing laughing laughing
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 2 October 2019 14: 00
        0
        The ghost of communism wanders around Europe and America again. belay
    3. Oleg123219307
      Oleg123219307 2 October 2019 14: 26
      +6
      Any serious direct clash of the armies of the nuclear powers (well, not counting the parodies like the Indo-Pakistani conflict for the 21st century in the 21st century) in half an hour will result in tactical nuclear strikes by the troops of the losing side. After another 5 minutes, the SPRN of the parties will determine the launches and strike back. In another hour, the most developed continent in the scientific, technical, military and other respects on the planet will be Antarctica ... And how many ships and what types are there ... Yes, even without the actual radiation from explosions, one destruction of all nuclear power plants and large ones chemical plants on the planet (and these are priority goals) will spoil everything so that life will have to re-evolve from trilobites. And for some reason, all continue to be measured by the size of the fleets and the length of the guns ...
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 2 October 2019 16: 11
        0
        Only the United States and Russia have SPRN ... hi
        1. Oleg123219307
          Oleg123219307 2 October 2019 20: 57
          0
          For 3 years now, the Chinese have been building ...
    4. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 2 October 2019 15: 36
      -3
      "Theoretically - understandable, but what will it lead to in practice?" ///
      ----
      Conventional naval and air war in the South China Sea region is possible.
      China is trying to oust everyone from the area - both locals and Americans.
      It is not profitable to use nuclear weapons either by the United States or China.
      But to drown several enemy ships and shoot down a couple of dozen aircraft - it may turn out to be enough for one of the parties to retreat.
  3. Livonetc
    Livonetc 2 October 2019 12: 57
    +11
    Right.
    No need to be afraid.
    It is necessary to respect, not to interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states and not to show aggression.
    Just.
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 2 October 2019 13: 10
      +5
      Your statement as if from the pages of 《Little Prince》
      History and reality speak directly to the opposite.

      The United States is not the first and not the last among empires to intervene and will intervene.
      Without intervention, no superiority, no Empire can be built.
      Because while you play the good guy, others will take all your neighbors under the wing.
      An example of the former republics to help you.
      They did not intervene and received a ring of enemies.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 2 October 2019 13: 21
        +4
        You are reasoning reasonably.
        But the approach is straight from the 90s.
        Russia is now working contrary to US tactics and strategies.
        Applies a wine wines strategy.
        And the results are visible.
        At the same time, without threatening without registering enemies in the national defense doctrine.
        You should not work for someone.
        You need to be yourself.
        It is this policy that Russia and China are pursuing.
        And if someone chooses the tactics of global bullying, then this is his choice.
        Short-sighted.
        hi
  4. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 2 October 2019 13: 06
    +2
    Koneshno is not necessary. Won the Saud were not afraid with the Patriot - and got ...
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 October 2019 13: 09
    +2
    The United States is capable of producing weapons, at least no worse and at a similar pace.
    Looks like it's like 50%?
    What about the Chinese sixty 1500 tons Corvette Type 056? These are small ships, similar to which the United States Navy does not even build, although they could. Actually the U.S. Coast Guard erects almost sixty 350 tons boats at one of the Bollinger shipyards in Louisiana and the commissioning of thirty-five vessels at once will take place in about seven years. Both appearance and pace of work can be multiplied to the level corresponding to corvettes of type 056.
    We can, but do not want, 1500 trifles, or 350 business. How to build 60 pieces, even more and even faster ... feel Kindergarten from US analytics.
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 2 October 2019 13: 15
    +4
    A powerful army and navy is a good political tool. And another indicator of a developed economy. Even judging by this parade, China has everything in order and they are on the right track.
    Another question is how such an increase will affect the fate of the world, and primarily on the neighbors. China has matured to speak on equal terms with the United States. But countries with less potential may be just bargaining chips in the game of large uncles.
    1. kventinasd
      kventinasd 2 October 2019 16: 44
      -4
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      China has matured to speak on equal terms with the United States.

      Not ripe!
      4-5 AUG of the USA and one Chinese memory will remain from Chinese military power.
      They fit in with force only with the Indians, but not with the USA.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 2 October 2019 16: 59
        +2
        Quote: kventinasd
        Not ripe!
        4-5 AUG USA and one Chinese memory will remain from Chinese military power

        The Union did not conduct battles with the States at sea, did not break through NATO positions in Western Europe. And these will not. Wars between such powers will be waged as in the second half of the 20th century --- indirectly, on neutral sites like Vietnam or Afghanistan. And I would not guess how many AUGs China will have in 10-20 years ...
        1. kventinasd
          kventinasd 2 October 2019 21: 34
          0
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          And I would not guess how many AUGs China will have in 10-20 years ...

          After 10-20 years, China is waiting for the same fate as the USSR.
  7. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 2 October 2019 13: 23
    +4
    We will be modestly silent about the pace and capabilities of our shipyards ...
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  9. Skay
    Skay 2 October 2019 13: 32
    -2
    So two power poles are created. (As once 3 Reich and the USSR). The question is when will they collide?
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 2 October 2019 14: 52
      -1
      Quote: Skay
      (As once the 3rd Reich and the USSR)
      There was none. During the war there were several poles: the USSR, Nazi Germany (plus fascist Italy and allies), the USA and militaristic Japan with their plans to conquer the entire Pacific Ocean.
  10. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 2 October 2019 13: 32
    +4
    Let’s watch how they mate, even if Russia should be lucky, the world-class chipper will pass by. I want to sit on the mountain, watch the tigers fight and if I see that it is star-striped, then help red, and if it won red, then star-striped let them beat each other as much as possible. Nothing special, just a Chinese strategy and Truman doctrine in one bottle.
  11. teron
    teron 2 October 2019 13: 42
    +3
    - so that international observers leave their fears and begin to understand that a large military-industrial complex called "Made in China" is only "an imperfect cover for a creeping authoritarianism that is afraid of its own people," the author sums up.


    Funny, this American seriously believes in it. Brains washed, real zombies. First you need to learn how to look at others with a sober look, and only then to understand the nuances of military equipment from other countries.
  12. Baloo
    Baloo 2 October 2019 13: 48
    0
    Americans just need to sit flat on the pope, stop bombing and interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states. No one is threatening them, except for their own American military-industrial complex.
  13. askort154
    askort154 2 October 2019 13: 56
    0
    Of course, Beijing has made tremendous strides. But Western observers do not need to help build China's reputation, Mr. Hooper said. (from article)

    The engine has left. The Anglo-Saxons were defeated in China .. They drove a wedge between the USSR and China in the 60s. They brought their technologies and means of production there. Now they themselves were taken hostage. They don’t whine that in China there is a communist regime, as they did against the USSR. Now forced to do the splits on ice, between Russia and China, not knowing who to give preference.
    And what a holiday in China! Such a world has not yet seen!
  14. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 2 October 2019 13: 57
    -4
    And America is not afraid of China. Russia needs to be afraid. The USSR could resist China, and Russia under the oligarchy - there is nothing to discuss here. Moreover, Russia itself is pumping up China with modern military technologies. Encourages the penetration of the Chinese into Siberia and the Far East. Some zombies here added to the fact that "Russia will be a strong rear of China in case of hostilities" ...
    No, it will not. China can take resources and territory. Now there is a creeping expansion.
    1. zloyi
      zloyi 2 October 2019 17: 43
      +1
      Of course and obviously, the Chinese need access to the north, they need territories and resources. Roads and bridges to the border have been drawn, tactics of warfare are being studied (fortunately, naive Russians tell, show and teach everything themselves). Quite and most likely there is an agreement with the Americans behind the back, and the "trade war" is just a performance for the Russians and, most importantly, more flattery and laudatory articles on their television and in newspapers (controlled by the party). It is enough to compare just the trading turnovers. They will wait in the wings, or maybe they won't.
  15. faterdom
    faterdom 2 October 2019 14: 25
    0
    Notes to Craig Hooper: "If a granny had a dick she were a granpa"
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 19: 35
      +1
      Quote: faterdom
      Notes to Craig Hooper: "If a granny had a dick she were a granpa"

      I don’t speak Aglitsky, is it something about grandma ... hmm-hmm ... "lady-boy"?
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 2 October 2019 22: 19
        0
        This is about that little thing that my grandmother lacks to ... say, reincarnate ...
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 3 October 2019 07: 57
          0
          Quote: faterdom
          This is about that little thing.

          Well, for whom, how ... lol
  16. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 2 October 2019 14: 33
    +1
    No one needs to fear the military power of the PRC, except those who want the PRC to destroy.
  17. NF68
    NF68 2 October 2019 15: 04
    0
    This is so far the United States may not be particularly afraid of China. But years through 15-20 everything may already look different.
  18. Egor53
    Egor53 2 October 2019 16: 54
    -2
    On American warships 10 years ago there were only 2 outhouses - for men and for women. Now it's 4 (added for transgender and transvestites) and there is debate about adding 4 more. Soon, the entire territory of US warships will consist of one sort for sexual minorities.
    What kind of military power can there be when fagots and lesbians fight on a warship?
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Egor53
      What kind of military power can there be when fagots and lesbians fight on a warship?

      For the procedure for visiting the outhouse?
  19. Kontrik
    Kontrik 2 October 2019 17: 31
    -3
    Chinese military and technological power is overrated, according to Forbes military expert Craig Hooper. USA

    What China, what the United States, it’s just the external attributes of military type power ..
    They have no experience of large-scale military operations of the world, so small things
    Here the Germans and Russians have enormous experience (they doubled each other for two worlds and who is nearby powerfully)
    It’s already put on the genes .. But the most interesting thing is that there is no hatred for each other ..
    So this hysteria of the USA, and China, looks funny .. They have something to lose hehe
    They hope again to bleed someone and sit out .. well, well
    1. bars1
      bars1 2 October 2019 18: 53
      0
      Quote: Kontrik
      They have no experience of large-scale military operations of the world, so small things

      The United States has positive experience of naval warfare (the largest in history) 1941-1945. And also experience in conducting large-scale (not as large, of course, the USSR and Germany, but still) military operations in Western Europe
      And China ... Yes, in the last 200 years they have had more - less successful experience - this is participation in the war in Korea.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: bars1
        The United States has positive experience of naval warfare (the largest in history) 1941-1945. And also experience in conducting large-scale (not as large, of course, the USSR and Germany, but still) military operations in Western Europe

        And where can this old "experience" be stuck?
        1. Kontrik
          Kontrik 2 October 2019 19: 38
          -1
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          And where can this old "experience" be stuck?

          They can’t understand all of them at last .. Nobody is afraid of them in the world, and they all stamp AUGs .. hehe
        2. bars1
          bars1 2 October 2019 22: 06
          0
          Quote: Vasyan1971
          And where can this old "experience" be stuck?

          Well, where can you stick the old experience of Russia / USSR and Germany who "beat each other for two world wars"?
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 3 October 2019 07: 55
            0
            1. To answer a question with a question is not good.
            2. There, to where the American (about which it was you who first spoke).
  20. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 19: 30
    +1
    The United States is capable of producing weapons, at least no worse and at a similar pace.

    Survived! Found something to be proud of!
  21. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 October 2019 19: 52
    0
    Well, what else to expect from Western media analysts — just juggling the facts and pulling the blankets over your beloved ones. And about our parades they spoke like that since the 45th — Nothing new.
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 2 October 2019 19: 54
    0
    A self-reassuring article for Americans, given how much time China and the United States took to build the last aircraft carrier in each country, how much
  23. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 3 October 2019 04: 26
    0
    - "China wants the American public to be afraid of its military, it is noted in the text" - you need to be afraid of your viper crap !!!.
  24. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 4 October 2019 02: 15
    0
    The US national debt is simply indecent ... Engineers and doctors in the United States are migrants for a long time, usually from Asia ... The US industry is also not in the best condition, the technologies are outdated and to be sure it is enough to look at the US auto industry ... The Yankees themselves American brands of cars have not been driven for a long time, these economical buckets with bolts are not in demand there ... I’m not saying that many industries have been lost altogether, for this it’s enough to look at the abandoned workshops of Detroit and other cities in which crows now fly freely only drug addicts appear ... And there’s nothing to talk about fertility ... China will easily survive the loss of several million soldiers ... the United States will terrify such losses ... their army will scatter ... there will be many more deserters than during wars in Vietnam ...