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U.S. Congress pre-sells 2's Javelin launchers to Ukraine

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US congressmen approve with approval of continued lethal shipments weapons Ukraine. The so-called preliminary consent for the delivery to Kiev of the next batch of Javelin anti-tank missile systems comes from Congress.


U.S. Congress pre-sells 2's Javelin launchers to Ukraine


According to recent reports, the cost of such deliveries will be about 39 million dollars. For this amount, Ukraine can get two launchers Javelin and 150 anti-tank missiles for them. At the same time, Washington is still deciding what to do with the choice of the “storage location” for these ATGMs if they are delivered to Ukraine.

Recall that earlier Ukraine immediately violated these obligations (if these obligations were originally plausible) regarding the storage of Javelin at a military base in the Lviv region under the supervision of American instructors. Missile systems a few weeks after delivery from the United States were in the Donbass, where the APU, as stated, conducted exercises.

In Ukraine itself, representatives of the local political elites took news Congressional decision is ambiguous. In particular, the opinion was voiced that the willingness to sell a couple of "Javelins" demonstrates "only the appearance of support." It is also added that the preliminary approval of the transaction by Congress took place against the background of the signing of the "Steinmeier formula", which involves the withdrawal of forces and assets from the contact line.

One of the noteworthy comments in the Ukrainian blogosphere:
Two Javelin! Are you seriously?
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 October 2019 07: 10
    +10
    Two anti-tank systems will solve all the problems of the ruins. These are SUCH installations, and there such Problems. feel
    1. NKT
      NKT 2 October 2019 07: 13
      +6
      Two installations - this is so, purely arbitrary, the basis of the transaction is 150 missiles.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 October 2019 07: 53
        +1
        Quote: NKT
        Two installations - this is so, purely arbitrary, the basis of the transaction is 150 missiles.

        In light of the impeachment of Trump, will there be a boy?
      2. Leeds
        Leeds 2 October 2019 07: 55
        +2
        Quote: NKT
        Two installations - this is so, purely arbitrary, the basis of the transaction is 150 missiles.

        The headline was made to neigh, and then less than half the audience reads the headline. And 150 missiles, from which not a single tank and not a single LDNR infantry fighting vehicle has protection (we will not mention ours), you really will laugh.
        1. lwxx
          lwxx 2 October 2019 08: 47
          +3
          And where are the guarantees that after one or two shots the installations and operators will remain intact? Take one cannon and xnumx shots to the front line! Two units is more for terrorist attacks.
          1. Leeds
            Leeds 2 October 2019 09: 06
            +1
            Quote: lwxx
            And where are the guarantees that after one or two shots the installations and operators will remain intact? Take one cannon and xnumx shots to the front line! Two units is more for terrorist attacks.

            If you remove the pan, it will become clear that 37 PU was purchased by 2, and 210 Missiles by 150. The news is about it.
            As for guarantees, they are not in the war. But there is TTX and common sense (a person who has fired at a tank from a kilometer in time will have time to hide in the bushes / dugout, or at the time of launch he will be covered by the Grad volley).
            Every Georgia, Estonia and others have PU accounts for hundreds. The defense industry needs nasal blood to think of something to counteract, and not rely on pan confidence.
            1. parkello
              parkello 2 October 2019 09: 23
              -3
              150 missiles ... if at least 10 of them detonate, then you can not write anything further. one accurate shot from a mortar and "grafted cotton", the mattress toppers immediately sensed that they could sell a couple of missiles and launchers to the militias. each has its own price, and ukrovoyak have several. and the price tags are hanging. one might think they will only fight with javelins. Javelin hits at 2-2,5 km, no longer pulls, and these 2,5 km still need to be approached. in general, the devil is not so terrible as he is painted. the mattresses of course will lower all the dogs and will nourish and train, supply, etc. .but the mattress is far away ... when they have to choose to die or run, they will all run. money will not help the dead, and they understand this very well.
              1. Leeds
                Leeds 2 October 2019 09: 47
                -2
                Quote: parkello
                150 missiles ... if at least 10 of them detonate, then you can not write anything further. one accurate shot from a mortar and "grafted cotton", the mattress toppers immediately sensed that they could sell a couple of missiles and launchers to the militias. each has its own price, and ukrovoyak have several. and the price tags are hanging. one might think they will only fight with javelins. Javelin hits 2-2,5 km, he no longer pulls,and these 2,5 km still need to be approached . in general, the devil is not so terrible as he is painted. the mattresses will of course let down all the dogs and will lure and train, supply, etc. . But the mattress is far away ... when you have to choose to die or run, they will all run. money will not help the dead, and they understand this very well.


                What have I read now?)))
                Bro, are you even in our universe? Or in parallel?

                Is it possible to get to enemy positions at 2 km in Donbas, especially during active databases?
                About raids (mutual) DRGs on the rear did not read in every second report?
                Well, what am I talking about, they’ll detonate everything in the warehouse.
                PS why do we need to buy a pair of PU? The militia (they did not report this to their credit) took KAMAZ, which drove the Javedins from Kharkov to 2014, exactly before they took prisoners into the DAP 200.
                1. parkello
                  parkello 2 October 2019 12: 28
                  -2
                  Well ..? what did you want to say? I’ve just written about that. That raids are from two sides, and anything can detonate. more than once warehouses burned and flew into the air.
              2. dvina71
                dvina71 2 October 2019 12: 51
                -1
                Quote: parkello
                Javelin hits on 2-2,5 km

                This is the maximum possible. You can actually fire from a distance of 1km ..
                1. parkello
                  parkello 2 October 2019 19: 50
                  0
                  Well ..? I know about the maximum ... I say the same thing, a maximum of 2,5 km hits. and from 1 km you still have to choose a position. but you know, crazy bullets can reach 1 km. in general, I don’t understand the two of you ... what do you want to say. Vas Gennady and that very smart Victor Troshka. Did I say something opposite to reality?
                  1. dvina71
                    dvina71 2 October 2019 19: 52
                    -1
                    Quote: parkello
                    What do you want to say

                    That's exactly what I want .. The importance of J .. inflated by advertising ..
                    1. parkello
                      parkello 2 October 2019 22: 24
                      0
                      I agree yes. inflated. they always make a topic of conversation out of nothing. they will help for three copecks, and then consider losses for rubles then. Well, the fact that Ukraine is a good testing ground for weapons. they are trying to identify the weaknesses of their complex, and not because they want to help Ukrainians and Ukraine as a whole. and even if they have a count on their head, they’ll get two more of their own ...
                      1. dvina71
                        dvina71 2 October 2019 22: 48
                        0
                        Quote: parkello
                        Ukraine is a good testing ground for weapons.

                        Is Syria better? Come on..
                      2. parkello
                        parkello 2 October 2019 22: 54
                        -1
                        no, not better. but in some ways they are similar. and here and there they check weapons, and test how their missiles deal with tanks from the USSR. and our people are dying ... it’s clear that if the situation worsens, then the Russians will sit back, find an antidote or develop tactics, but until all this happens, these jackals will have time for people to drink blood over. it’s not a pity that someone else’s hands, but I don’t want to lose my people. reconnaissance should get the exact coordinates if the javelins get to the cutting edge.
              3. Letun
                Letun 2 October 2019 14: 09
                +2
                Quote: parkello
                150 missiles ... if at least 10 of them detonate, then you can not write anything further. one accurate shot from a mortar and "grafted cotton"

                Or you can sneak up to the javelin thrower from behind and kill with a brick on the head, and grab the complex! Then, even a mine from a mortar will not have to be spent!
                Are you tired of throwing hats? Mortar sniper, damn it lol
                1. parkello
                  parkello 2 October 2019 22: 58
                  -1
                  I don’t know with caps, but if I get the coordinates, I’ll hit my target from my mortar. usually hit .and quite accurately. and this time I don’t miss. I hope. and throwing hats, it’s not for me. I don’t. request
        2. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 2 October 2019 09: 28
          -2
          Two launchers and 150 missiles are ridiculous)))) maximum will make 4 shots, maximum 4 tanks
          1. Leeds
            Leeds 2 October 2019 09: 55
            -1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            Two launchers and 150 missiles are ridiculous)))) maximum will make 4 shots, maximum 4 tanks

            You undermine the patterns, hinting at the close to 100% efficiency of the shaitan pipe created on the sawn headstock of unfortunate taxpayers who are almost completely below the poverty line in the decaying west.
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 2 October 2019 10: 40
              -1
              That's it, we do not make super weapons from this pipe, and we are not afraid of it
              1. Leeds
                Leeds 2 October 2019 11: 57
                -1
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                That's it, we do not make super weapons from this pipe, and we are not afraid of it

                Well, not for you, if anything, to sit on or in the BMN-2 at this “awkward” moment. Therefore, there really is nothing to be afraid of you personally.
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 2 October 2019 13: 25
                  -1
                  A tank or an infantry fighting vehicle will also be beaten by other means, the jwalin is only one of ten others, so do not be afraid
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 2 October 2019 12: 22
            -3
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            Two launchers and 150 missiles are ridiculous

            Keep in mind that these are two additional to the 37 previously set. Total: 37 + 2 = 39 hi
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 2 October 2019 13: 26
              0
              39 this is of course a lot))) thousands of other ptrk and 40 were scared
        3. FenH
          FenH 2 October 2019 10: 04
          -4
          Quote: Leeds
          Quote: NKT
          Two installations - this is so, purely arbitrary, the basis of the transaction is 150 missiles.

          The headline was made to neigh, and then less than half the audience reads the headline. And 150 missiles, from which not a single tank and not a single LDNR infantry fighting vehicle has protection (we will not mention ours), you really will laugh.

          will you launch these missiles from a slingshot?
          1. Leeds
            Leeds 2 October 2019 11: 19
            -1
            Quote: FenH
            Quote: Leeds
            Quote: NKT
            Two installations - this is so, purely arbitrary, the basis of the transaction is 150 missiles.

            The headline was made to neigh, and then less than half the audience reads the headline. And 150 missiles, from which not a single tank and not a single LDNR infantry fighting vehicle has protection (we will not mention ours), you really will laugh.

            will you launch these missiles from a slingshot?


            Ukrogabon has 39 PU. Few?
            1. FenH
              FenH 2 October 2019 11: 36
              -2
              https://www.donetsk.kp.ru/daily/27007.4/4068788/
          2. NKT
            NKT 2 October 2019 11: 24
            +3
            The APU now has 39 installations and 360 missiles, which is 9 missiles per installation with a small margin. I do not share your optimism about slingshots.
            1. FenH
              FenH 2 October 2019 11: 36
              -1
              Quote: NKT
              The APU now has 39 installations and 360 missiles, which is 9 missiles per installation with a small margin. I do not share your optimism about slingshots.

              https://www.donetsk.kp.ru/daily/27007.4/4068788/
              Situated, not Situated
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 2 October 2019 12: 32
                0
                Quote: FenH
                https://www.donetsk.kp.ru/daily/27007.4/4068788/
                Situated, not Situated

                Simply due to the lack of storage conditions in the "Sumeria", they will be stored in Poland and there is no guarantee that they cannot be transferred to where required, if necessary, in a couple of hours.
                1. ROSS_51
                  ROSS_51 4 October 2019 18: 51
                  0
                  In case of need? Russian tank breakthrough through Ukraine to Poland?
                  As far as I understand, the Javelins planned to transfer to Ukraine for safekeeping (to give an expensive toy to hold) and one of the conditions of the Americans was that the Javas did not appear in the DB zone. Precisely because Ukraine was honored only for irresponsible "storage" - they decided not to give ... a grenade.
                  Everything else is just the wet dreams of Ukrainian javelin fetishists.
    2. novel66
      novel66 2 October 2019 07: 15
      +3
      with one shoot back in the parliament with the other according to the president .... problems may become less
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 2 October 2019 07: 30
        +1
        On one invoice for two Javelins, they can be sold and imported as much as they like. It is enough to take into account that they are imported and it will be necessary to reckon with them.
      2. ROSS_51
        ROSS_51 4 October 2019 19: 19
        0
        And what did the president not please? A good comedian, going on tour, now all over the world .. Besides, nothing solves.
    3. Civil
      Civil 2 October 2019 07: 27
      +1
      2 javellina is power) to carry on parades, to show in the cinema)
    4. SOF
      SOF 2 October 2019 07: 34
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Two anti-tank systems will solve all the problems of the ruins.

      ... it's not about the problems of the ruins, but about a headache about how to keep track of the "holy" javelins ... so that they don't sell somewhere ... by accident ... feel
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 2 October 2019 08: 29
        0
        Quote: SOF
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Two anti-tank systems will solve all the problems of the ruins.

        ... it's not about the problems of the ruins, but about a headache about how to keep track of the "holy" javelins ... so that they don't sell somewhere ... by accident ... feel
        Yes, we will buy them and no one will have a headache.
        1. SOF
          SOF 2 October 2019 10: 25
          0
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Yes, we will buy them and no one will have a headache

          .... and "we" are who? .... wink
          .... here, after all, a headache is something .... laughing ... not at all that it will be sold "by accident", which appeared to the light bulb (for free or for money), but in that ..... who will go to ..... who will be it ..... " saint "... then he dissects it into screws ...
          .... that's puzzling, sick, in which box to sell it .... in a wooden one - like everyone else, or in an iron, welded with three seams, but with protection ...... wassat
  2. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 07: 15
    +2
    According to recent reports, the cost of such supplies will be about $ 39 million.
    For this amount, Ukraine can get two Javelin launchers and 150 anti-tank missiles for them.

    1. Peremoga!
    2. Well, the prices! Will the hetman have enough "gold reserves"?
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 2 October 2019 07: 58
      +1
      Two Javelin!
      Enough to get drunk at each other!
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 08: 20
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Enough to get drunk at each other!

        Yes. Of two pieces, "playing" one is very difficult (if you are not afraid of difficulties).
  3. horus88
    horus88 2 October 2019 07: 17
    +3
    well, now they’ll definitely move to Moscow!
  4. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 2 October 2019 07: 18
    +1
    They will symbolically sell two units, if only the Ukrainians are left behind, otherwise they stick like a bath leaf to the ass with these "Javelin".
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 08: 22
      +1
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      They sell symbolically two units, if only Ukrainians are behind,

      Figes "symbolically" - $ 39 lamas!
      1. Fedor Sokolov
        Fedor Sokolov 2 October 2019 08: 51
        -1
        At the same time, the American manufacturer of these complexes will be encouraged, because in the USA there are a large number of politicians and semi-political experts tied to the arms lobby.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 October 2019 07: 31
    +3
    2 launchers? Is this subtle mockery? Thin-subtle, to penetrate to hiccups! What about 150 missiles? With two launchers - will you shoot for a day? Or a truck with missiles to carry? tongue
  6. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 2 October 2019 07: 33
    +4
    A wedding in Robin, there Popandopolo quickly determined where to put off a machine gun, these will do it even faster.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 2 October 2019 07: 49
    -1
    Filing from the master's table .... however, when the fuss inside ends, everything can be different! Do not have illusions! Striped ENEMY, powerful and without any brakes!
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  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 2 October 2019 08: 04
    +1
    Before they can finish the war, they need to have time to sell more piece of iron to the shareware Papuans.
  10. Vladimir Fokin
    Vladimir Fokin 2 October 2019 08: 23
    0
    They give them a monkey calculator.
  11. Nymp
    Nymp 2 October 2019 08: 25
    +1
    In response to this, Russia needs to fit LDNR modern Russian tanks, for which this Amerikosovsky jamelin is not a threat! Why is it possible for America to openly help dill, and Russia only secretly, in vain disguise itself? Isn’t it time to openly declare our interests in this conflict? America is not shy
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 2 October 2019 13: 09
      -2
      Quote: Nymp
      In response to this, Russia needs to fit LDNR modern Russian tanks

      What for? Saturate the advanced thermal imagers and NVDs of the latest generation (without backlighting), add RMBs and snipers to them .., in fact, replace BMPTs .. Normal ATGMs with a range of up to 3-4 km will be safe, but they are impeccable ...
  12. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 2 October 2019 08: 36
    +1
    U.S. Congress pre-sells 2's Javelin launchers to Ukraine

    Money is never superfluous.
  13. Kerensky
    Kerensky 2 October 2019 08: 59
    +2
    You don’t understand anything! This is a duel kit. In a box with inlay and velvet.
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 October 2019 09: 07
    0
    American congressmen approved with approval a document on continuing the supply of “lethal” weapons to Ukraine.

    But does the congress of mericatosia not coordinate its actions with the senate? request
  15. Forest
    Forest 2 October 2019 11: 07
    -1
    Apparently there wasn’t enough money for more)
  16. dima314
    dima314 2 October 2019 15: 17
    -1
    Is it that the sale of two PUs was discussed at a meeting between Zeli and Trump? Is the level too high for such a purchase?
  17. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 2 October 2019 23: 03
    +1
    The commentators for this article are laughing ... Bad "laugh" - the Ukrainian Armed Forces are gradually arming themselves (recently 6 (six) Turkish UAVs were bought). ATGM Javelin is no laughing matter, no one laughed at the supply of Stingers to Afghanistan in the 80s. The fact that Javelins will be "stored" in Poland is nothing "funny". At the "right moment" they will appear in the "right place" and not "ATOs" will "work" with them, but "little green men" from the USA am
  18. Antares
    Antares 2 October 2019 23: 43
    0
    260 thousand dollars for each rocket + 2 launchers.
    Fine. True, according to Western sources.
    Bloomberg citing three anonymous sources.
    According to the publication, the US Department of State approved, and Congress has unofficially signed a contract to sell weapons.
    One of the sources of the publication said that they could officially announce the sale of 150 anti-tank systems and two additional tank installations in the near future.
    Bloomberg said that this agreement is not part of the military assistance for Ukraine in the amount of 250 million, which Congress approved earlier.
    Ukraine requested weapons as early as last summer. In 2018, the United States provided Ukraine with more than 200 missiles and 37 launchers.
    Earlier, former US Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Walker said that the United States is ready to increase arms supplies to Ukraine to make its naval and air forces more powerful.
    Recall that the United States provided Ukraine with Javelin anti-tank missile systems free of charge.
  19. ROSS_51
    ROSS_51 4 October 2019 19: 15
    0
    Quote: parkello
    150 missiles ... if at least 10 of them detonate.

    Do you think javelin shots are transported in trucks in bulk in a pile of no less than 10 pieces?
    Quote: parkello
    .Javelin hits 2-2,5 km, no longer pulls, but 2,5 km still need to be approached

    The standard range of direct visibility is 600-800 meters, more rarely the terrain allows in the western part .. gm .. of the Soviet Union ..)