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Testing C-500 in Syria allowed to work out the detection of "inconspicuous" targets

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Some time ago, the VO published material about the start of testing the promising C-500 air defense system. During the tests, as it turned out, some technical problems were discovered, but they were eliminated. However, manufacturers did not report the specific location where these tests were conducted.



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Now it became known that the verification of anti-aircraft missile systems C-500 "Prometheus" was carried out in the Syrian Arab Republic. Such an information message is published by the newspaper. "News". The material says that testing of C-500 in Syria is confirmed by sources in the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense.

The statement on the testing of C-500 Prometheus in Syria has already caused a violent reaction abroad. In particular, it is noted that Russia continues to use the territory of the SAR as a "platform for testing its weapons." Western sources say that over the years of participation of the Russian Armed Forces in the Syrian campaign, a variety of weapons were tested, including Caliber cruise missiles, fifth-generation Su-57 fighter jets, and now the S-500 Prometheus air defense systems.

Testing C-500 in Syria allowed to work out the detection of "inconspicuous" targets


It is worth noting the importance of the “Syrian” tests for the C-500. It (importance) for our country consists not only in checking the complex in special climatic conditions. Verification in the ATS is important primarily in that it allows you to confirm the wide functionality of the complex, which, in fact, is also a powerful anti-ballistic missile. Also, the radar of the complex got the opportunity to test in the direction of detecting "inconspicuous" targets. Given that in the sky above Syria fighters of the 5 generation of the US Air Force (F-22) and Israeli Air Force (F-35) appear, the experience of the “Syrian” tests is extremely important for developers and the military. Naturally, both the developers and the military will conduct a thorough analysis of the C-500 verification carried out on the territory of the SAR, which in itself will become an invaluable experience in the development of an air defense missile defense shield.

It can be assumed that the testing of C-500 in Syria was carried out without the “physical” launch of missiles - primarily tests of target detection characteristics. Earlier, tests of C-500, as it became known, were carried out in the Astrakhan region.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 2 October 2019 06: 16
    +28
    News is news))) Probably the entire fleet of f-35 Israel studied)))
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 2 October 2019 06: 19
      +6
      And that their companions did not detect? Now thrash will begin in the west.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 2 October 2019 06: 24
        +17
        the military will conduct a thorough analysis of the S-500 audit carried out on the territory of the SAR
        Who flew, they all took "pencil"!
        And whoever didn’t hide is not my fault!
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 07: 12
          +3
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Who flew, they all took "pencil"!

          By name!
        2. LifeIsGood
          LifeIsGood 2 October 2019 09: 31
          +4
          So we tested the radar, not the launchers. Try to distinguish from above whose it is ... The Americans put it next to the S-300 or S-400 launchers and thought it was from them.
          1. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 2 October 2019 10: 11
            +1
            Quote: LifeIsGood
            So we tested the radar, not the launchers. Try to distinguish from above whose it is ... The Americans put it next to the S-300 or S-400 launchers and thought it was from them.

            And the radar signals on the fighters are only detected, but not analyzed, not that functionality. Well, the radars probably hid the AWAX, and they didn’t have enough of what happened. Right now there will be a stink, although they used only their European methods!
      2. LMN
        LMN 2 October 2019 06: 50
        +5
        Quote: Evil543
        And that their companions did not detect?

        So stealth apparently lol
        Perhaps there are windows request And maybe they noticed, only who will tell ..
        1. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 2 October 2019 08: 42
          +1
          It would not be bad to put them on the Kuril Islands, maybe then the Japanese would finally calm down?
      3. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 2 October 2019 07: 11
        +4
        Quote: Evil543
        And that their companions did not detect?

        Because game screenshots have not yet been delivered. That's when they deliver, then the S-500 under each bush show up.
      4. Bodipancher
        Bodipancher 2 October 2019 09: 19
        +6
        I think individual components of the S-500, such as radars, were brought to Syria. Missiles and chassis does not make sense to carry for the sake of such tests.
      5. Zhan
        Zhan 2 October 2019 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: Evil543
        It can be assumed that the testing of the S-500 in Syria was carried out without a "physical" missile launch - primarily tests of target detection characteristics.

        Most likely they put there only radars, previously as part of the S-400 launcher

        It can be assumed that the testing of the S-500 in Syria was carried out without a "physical" missile launch - primarily tests of target detection characteristics.


        So they misled a potential enemy. The old commandment of intelligence worked: "Hide under the enemy's nose and in the most conspicuous place, no one will ever pay attention" ... hi
        But how many portraits copied of all types of aircraft for the S-500 radar. Congratulations on the brilliant operation of the counter! hi
      6. Troll
        Troll 3 October 2019 21: 50
        0
        >> And what their satellites did not detect <

        Satellites are good for research, stationary objects. They are not very suitable for photographs of moving objects. For shooting mobile things, you need to know both the time and location of the object of interest. Realizing this, the specialists may have imported Prometheus not through the "main gate" (If at all)
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 2 October 2019 06: 21
    +23
    Considering that the 5th generation fighter of the US Air Force (F-22) and Israeli Air Force (F-35) appear in the sky over Syria, the experience of the “Syrian” tests is extremely important for developers and the military.

    And what will the professor say?
    The invincible F-35 and F-22 are not in a hurry to fly into Syria ... all from the Lebanese side are stealthily launching missiles through the territory of Syria ... it’s scary to make direct assaults suddenly fly in the ass.
    But there were no real clashes with the C-300, C-400 systems.
    I think that C-500 is being tested not only in Syria, but also in the areas of active NATO flights in the Kaliningrad region ... and when our next plane with the transponder turned off flies along the Baltic coast collecting NATO fighters around us like a piece of honey of bees for the smell of sweet honey our beloved the adversary does not even suspect that he is on the fly.
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 2 October 2019 06: 28
      +9
      As usual, you're lying, etc.
    2. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 October 2019 06: 54
      +1
      I think there is a mutual risk. Americans are afraid to disgrace themselves with invisibility, but the S-300 has no military use. It’s easy to become disgraced, but how then to live on.
      1. Livonetc
        Livonetc 2 October 2019 07: 29
        +5
        US Invisibles retractable goods per se.
        Russian air defense systems are in demand on the market and users have no doubts about their effectiveness.
        Another thing is no one declares 100% guarantees.
        As there is no technology of invisibility in reality.
        There are stealth technologies, and this only means that additional efforts are required to detect in the form of other technologies.
        And the fact that the elements of the C500 system have been tested in Syria is an additional backlog in the effectiveness of the system.
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 2 October 2019 09: 23
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        but the S-300 also has no combat use.

        Do you think that combat use is necessarily to spit with regular missiles? The last thing. More often, we send aviation to warn a potential intruder, they say, "You, grandma, don't go here." But there are a lot of reports about the meeting of the Su-35 with the "invisible", even if the Israeli penguins flew to bomb the territory of Iraq
    3. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 2 October 2019 08: 49
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      And what will the professor say?

      Recently, he rarely appears. Maybe your "protruding tongue" on the avatar froze?
    4. Professor
      Professor 2 October 2019 10: 12
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The invincible F-35 and F-22 are not in a hurry to fly into Syria ... all from the Lebanese side are stealthily launching missiles through the territory of Syria ... it’s scary to make direct assaults suddenly fly in the ass.

      Recently, more and more often someone is bombing the Syrian-Iraqi border and even objects in Iraq itself. This is difficult to do from Lebanon. Do not find?

      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      But there were no real clashes with the C-300, C-400 systems.

      There was a bombardment of the Syrian airbase by the Kyrgyz Republic, where the "curvature of the earth's surface" prevented the S-300 / S-400, which had no analogues in the world.

      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I think that C-500 is being tested not only in Syria, but also in the areas of active NATO flights in the Kaliningrad region ... and when our next plane with the transponder turned off flies along the Baltic coast collecting NATO fighters around us like a piece of honey of bees for the smell of sweet honey our beloved the adversary does not even suspect that he is on the fly.

      1. For successful testing of any system, it is ALWAYS necessary to use a reference group (otherwise), otherwise you will find out whether the invisibility was when you did not find it or not.
      2. When using an active system, the pilot always knows whether he is irradiated or not. Passive stations of the Kalchuga type are another matter.
      1. Yura
        Yura 2 October 2019 11: 11
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Recently, more and more often someone is bombing the Syrian-Iraqi border and even objects in Iraq itself. This is difficult to do from Lebanon. Do not find?

        You said that Israel does it too? Don't you find?
        1. Professor
          Professor 2 October 2019 12: 47
          -4
          Quote: Jura
          Quote: Professor
          Recently, more and more often someone is bombing the Syrian-Iraqi border and even objects in Iraq itself. This is difficult to do from Lebanon. Do not find?

          You said that Israel does it too? Don't you find?

          Find what? Israel openly stated this.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 2 October 2019 12: 14
        -2
        And it’s good that the more all kinds of missiles and planes, as well as drones and guided bombs fly into Syria, the better the information for our designers and air defense systems for further improvement. You most importantly more confidently use your new missiles.
  3. Bodipancher
    Bodipancher 2 October 2019 06: 23
    0
    In Syria, many birds fly, including the Israeli F-35. It is logical to test the S-500 exactly there, even without physical launches.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 2 October 2019 08: 45
      +2
      If the complex managed to digest the mess that is happening in the sky of Syria and neighboring countries, then this is already enough to consider that its testing was successful.
  4. Donald72
    Donald72 2 October 2019 06: 24
    +1
    Perhaps they tested the control system, rocket launchers did not bring. There was no shooting at f22 and f35.
  5. sabakina
    sabakina 2 October 2019 06: 24
    0
    I wonder why some technical problems were discovered in Syria, but not in the Astrakhan region?
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 2 October 2019 06: 33
      +7
      Quote: sabakina
      I wonder why some technical problems were discovered in Syria, but not in the Astrakhan region?

      Nobody seems to say exactly where these technical problems were discovered.
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 2 October 2019 06: 36
      +4
      Quote: sabakina
      I wonder why some technical problems were discovered in Syria, but not in the Astrakhan region?

      Probably such goals, as in Syria, do not fly in the sky over the Astrakhan region ... And in parallel, the S-400 do not work on a safety net in Astrakhan. wink
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 October 2019 07: 22
      +1
      Quote: sabakina
      I wonder why some technical problems were discovered in Syria, but not in the Astrakhan region?

      There are no American and Israeli aircraft in the Astrakhan region.
    4. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 2 October 2019 07: 25
      +1
      Yes, elementary: climate, desert, dust. Here is the likely source of the problems identified.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 October 2019 06: 26
    +3
    The statement on the testing of C-500 Prometheus in Syria has already caused a violent reaction abroad. In particular, it is noted that Russia continues to use the territory of the SAR as a "platform for testing its weapons."

    But Russia did not make this a secret. request On tests of the Russian Federation’s armaments in the SAR, it was published in accessible media.
  7. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 2 October 2019 06: 36
    +3
    Of course, I apologize, I can pass for a delibitant, but I listened to the program, about the possibilities of the C 500.
    They said that the radar at the complex sees virtually all flying targets, even birds, and is able to distinguish a living target from an inanimate one.
    Plus it calculates well low-flying objects, and can also shoot down targets in space, such as satellites.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 2 October 2019 06: 57
      +3
      Maybe he sees, but to trust our media, where they talk about one system, show another, and TTX write from the third, this is not to respect yourself. Let officially TTX will be published, then we'll see.
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 2 October 2019 07: 43
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        Maybe he sees, but to trust our media, where they talk about one system, show another, and TTX write from the third, this is not to respect yourself. Let officially TTX will be published, then we'll see.

        Duck, all the world's media indulge, even the official press service at the Defense Ministry often carries a blizzard.
      2. venik
        venik 2 October 2019 09: 50
        0
        Quote: 1976AG
        but to trust our media, where they talk about one system, show another, and TTX write from the third, this does not respect yourself.

        ======
        Well, so the American media read everything very much there "honestly"and och-h-chen"true" wassat
    2. venik
      venik 2 October 2019 09: 47
      0
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      They said that the radar at the complex sees virtually all flying targets

      =======
      Well, there’s probably not one radar in the S-500, but some (as in S-400). It is somehow doubtful that the same radar would be so versatile as to work effectively across the entire spectrum of targets from missiles flying at a height of several meters to near space .....
      But as they say: "we'll see - we'll see!" ... So far, there is too little fact about the S-500, and the fact that it is is contradictory (as in fact it SHOULD be with the latest systems).
  8. askort154
    askort154 2 October 2019 06: 38
    +8
    "..... testing of the S-500 in Syria is confirmed by sources in the military-industrial complex and the Ministry of Defense ..."


    See the gopher? No ... e ... t ...
    And he is there! good
    "American patriots" and Israeli f-35s missed not only the attack on the Saudis, but also the appearance of the S-500 under the belly of Israel. crying
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 2 October 2019 09: 41
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      "American patriots" and Israeli f-35s missed not only the attack on the Saudis, but also the appearance of the S-500 under the belly of Israel.

      Come on. Ancient Israeli sign. When the jeepies refuses, the Russians experience something in Syria and not necessarily the S-500 bully
  9. Voyager
    Voyager 2 October 2019 08: 48
    +1
    Yeah, "scanned" all the stealth ... and nothing that all the F-22 flew with Luneberg lenses. I didn’t see Israeli 35, but they probably also
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 2 October 2019 09: 02
    0
    During the tests, as it turned out, some technical problems were discovered, but they were eliminated.

    Normal design work ... look for flaws and fix. Make the product as it should.
  11. musorg
    musorg 4 October 2019 12: 11
    +1
    There was no testing in Syria!