The agony of the Russian school

The strength of the government rests on the ignorance of the people, and it knows this and therefore will always fight against enlightenment.
L. N. Tolstoy





For a quarter century, Russian education has been killed in Russia. Obviously, the "reforms" have reached their point - the Russian school is in agony. The commercialization of society and culture (the complete victory of the Western “golden calf” society) plus the imposed Western “democratization” and “liberalization” of the school led to a total degradation of the education system.

The agony of the Russian school

Schoolchildren of the USSR, 1954


Enough to read the most sonorous news from school life in one day, September 24 2019: massacre at school was prevented in Kirov; in the Leningrad Region, a schoolboy systematically beats classmates for several years in a row, and the school leadership and parents can do nothing about it.

Hitler and the Russian school


The Soviet school as the basis of the Soviet state and people tried to destroy the Nazis. The military-political elite of the Third Reich perfectly understood the significance of the Russian school. Without the destruction of education, it was impossible to destroy Russian (Soviet) statehood and turn the people into non-management-subhuman people.

Let’s take excerpts from the shorthand record of Hitler’s statements on the book of V.I. Dashicheva “Bankruptcy of the strategy of German fascism: historical Essays, Documents, Materials ”(Moscow: Nauka, 1973). Adolf Hitler, March 1942:
“First of all, German school teachers should not be allowed to go to the eastern regions. Otherwise, we will lose not only children, but also parents. We lose all the people. For the fact that we hammer them in the head will not do them good. It would be ideal to teach them to understand only the language of signs and signals. On the radio, the population would be presented with what is acceptable to him: music without any restrictions. But in no case should they be allowed to engage in mental work. We really cannot allow any printed matter. ”


Hitler, April 1942:
“If the Russians, Ukrainians, Kyrgyz and others learn to read and write, it will only hurt us. For such skills would enable the most capable of them to acquire certain knowledge in the field of history and, therefore, come to reflections of a political nature, the tip of which would inevitably be directed against us. ... it would be wiser to install a loudspeaker in each village in order to inform people about the news and give them food for conversation; this is better than allowing them to independently study political, scientific, etc. information. And let it never occur to anyone to transmit information from their past history to the conquered peoples by radio. Transfer should be music and music again! For fun music promotes hard work. And if people can dance more, then this ... should be welcomed. ”


Thus, the German occupiers wanted to leave the Soviet people only music without any restrictions, dancing and entertainment. Mental work, political, scientific and other knowledge, mathematics and history were excluded.

Destruction of the basics


In the 1920-ies, after the revolution of 1917 and the fall of the Russian Empire, in Soviet Russia they also “experimented” and “rebuilt” the school a lot, looking for its new face, different from the tsarist period. It came to the abolition of traditional history, geography and literature, Alexander Nevsky and Dmitry Donskoy, Ivan the Terrible and Alexander III, Alexander Pushkin and Mikhail Lermontov, Fedor Dostoevsky and Leo Tolstoy were removed from the course of education. However, in the 30 years, under the Stalinist “reaction”, when the task was to industrialize in an agrarian and peasant country, to create advanced science and education, to provide defense capabilities and a breakthrough into the future of the USSR, they immediately remembered the experience of tsarist gymnasiums and the classical formation of the Russian Empire. They began to use programs and textbooks of a class alien regime. Only the school became mass, learning - universal.

The result was great! Soviet school became the best in the world! In the 1960 years, D. Kennedy said:
“Soviet education is the best in the world. The USSR won the space race for the school desk. "


The conclusions of the NATO Analytical Note on Education in the USSR (1959) contain the following thoughts:
“States that are independently competing with the USSR are wasting their strength and resources in attempts that are doomed to failure. If it is impossible to constantly invent methods that are superior to the methods of the USSR, it’s worth seriously thinking about borrowing and adapting Soviet methods. ”


During the Khrushchev "perestroika" and later, the Soviet school lost a lot. In particular, the student’s responsibility for studying was removed and teachers were obliged to positively assess the “work” of loafers and parasites. However, despite all the mistakes, the Soviet school still remained one of the best in the world (or even the best, depending on how you evaluate). She created a powerful creative, scientific and educational foundation in the country and people. So, according to UNESCO, in the 1991 year (the year of the death of the Soviet empire), Russia occupied the 3 place in the world ranking in terms of education.

Then, “reformers” and “optimizers” —destructors — reached the Russian school. The "reform" of education has begun. They introduced the Bologna system, the Unified State Exam, the Basic State Exam, the All-Russian Verification Work (VPR), “game” elements, etc. The hours of basic subjects were drastically reduced, and a lot of unnecessary, auxiliary, breaking, mutilating general system appeared. In particular, the strengthening of ethnocultural components in national republics (language, history, culture), the teaching of religion in schools, sex education, psychology, family science, etc. Moreover, the erosion of the basic program is constantly increasing. Now we are in the top ten in terms of education and degradation continues!

Raising the status of the final exam at school to the level of the entrance exam to a higher educational institution, the "reformers" delivered two powerful blows at once. First, the teacher was denied trust. Now the semi-poor teachers, it turns out, have become the "main corrupt officials" in the country (they have already banned sweets and flowers). Teachers were broken, the program began to be carried out formally, and now they simply “train” students to pass the state exam, CDF, since a lot depends on the results not only for students, but also for teachers. Secondly, for students and their parents, now the main thing in the educational process is what will be on the final exam, and not a systematic study of the basics of basic subjects. Not the students getting fundamental knowledge, not the formation of conceptual thinking in them, not the development of students and their training in systematic mental work. The results are devastating, the level of basic knowledge of applicants fell catastrophically. The level of universities automatically fell to the bulk of poorly trained students in high school.

Thus, by the will of the liberal pro-Western "elite", "reformers", there was a sharp degradation and debilitation of the younger generations. Very soon, the last remnants of the Soviet school will be finally killed, and we will go down to the level of the former Western colonies in Africa by the level of education and the development of the mass school (the "elite" have their own schools and abroad). And the collapse of education is the collapse of a nation. The collapse of science, training systems for industry and defense. Very soon, the country will face the task of eliminating illiteracy, like the Bolsheviks after the revolution and turmoil.

The victory of "democracy" and "tolerance" at school


I remember earlier, when they watched Western films about the school, they were surprised at the level of violence and licentiousness there. Drug trafficking, theft, robbery, sex and fighting are what students do instead of studying. An excellent film on this subject is “The Director” with D. Belushi in the title role (1987), where the hero fights with a youth gang. Or “Only the Strongest” (1993) with M. Dacascos in the title role. Here, a former soldier becomes a teacher in his former school and tries to save difficult children from violence and drugs through the study of martial arts (Brazilian capoeira). He also encounters a drug mafia, which has positions in the school.

In the past, slaughter, massacres in American schools caused surprise. However, not much time has passed, and these same phenomena are becoming commonplace in our schools. In January 2018, in the capital of Buryatia, Ulan-Ude, a student of the 9 class burst into the school with an ax and a Molotov cocktail, injuring several people. In the same month, two teenagers with knives attacked a school in Perm, 15 people were injured. In October 2018, a massacre occurred at the Kerch Polytechnic College (21 people died, 67 were injured). In May 2019, a schoolboy with an ax attacked a school in Volsk (Saratov Region). And such emergency situations are already becoming the norm. Domination is licentiousness and permissiveness. Pupils are attacking students, students against teachers. Even murders, not to mention rape and beatings. Pupils, taking advantage of the defenselessness and powerlessness of teachers, the school leadership in the new "democratic" conditions, the victory of complete "tolerance" and humanity, swear, scoff at adult and weaker students.

The "democrats" in the 1990-2000-s introduced the cult of the "rights of the child" and turned over the old established notions of justice and rights on its head. Then the “digital world” also connected, when people who consider themselves offended have the opportunity to shoot videos taken out of context and launch them on social networks. And then “human rights activists” and “bloggers” will add kerosene to the fire and make an elephant out of flies. Previously, teachers or the director could quickly put in place a novice bully (possibly a criminal) with a simple shout, setting in a corner, a slap or a pointer, and then the dirty trick would also go home. Behind the scenes, this was the norm in traditional society and protected it from greater evil. There were also a number of thoughtful and proven tools to deal with such phenomena as calling parents to school, sending letters to parents' workplaces, expelling from school, police children's rooms, special schools for hard-to-reach children, etc.

Now the opposite is true. Under pressure from Western human rights organizations in the post-Soviet space, total “liberalization” was carried out. Literally totalitarian methods for protecting the rights of the child have been created. For an attempt to stop the bully, the teachers will be turned into all kinds of denigrations and expelled from school, otherwise they will open a criminal case, and juvenile justice will be hurt and the child will be taken away from the parent who tries to exercise his right to bring up at home.

As a result, school leaders, teachers, chief doctors and heads of district police departments and many parents stepped aside from primary measures to prevent licentiousness, dirty tricks and disorderly conduct, which very often lead to serious criminal offenses, theft, and violence. Teachers, directors and other officials began to “unsubscribe”. Avoid any ambiguous, potentially dangerous situations. Now teachers on Western methods are taught to "look for an approach to the child." The posts of social educators and psychologists were created to “find an approach”. However, one cannot only re-educate already spoiled people in kind. Ordinary pedagogy cannot solve this problem in principle. It's impossible.

Due to the increase in violence in society, schools are already reminiscent of prisons. Fences, cameras, security and access control. But this is of little use. Only a reminder of the sharp decline in the quality of life and security in Russia compared to Soviet civilization.

What did we get on the way out? Complete scrapping of discipline and order at school. Promiscuity, permissiveness and the ability to break away from school. Mat, smoking and drinking teenagers. Older children beat younger ones, swearing, sending teachers to "walk in the woods." Constant stories in the media about beatings, violence, and killings in schools. Given the general degradation of society in schools, more and more mentally ill children. But there is no government on them. There is no effective legal protection from “difficult teenagers”. Police before 14 years (most often before 16) can do nothing at all. Psychiatrists recognize them as sane and send them back to school. Teachers close their eyes. School management cannot expel a “black sheep” from school. Parents dump on school, they say, they are paid for it, let them educate.

There is no order at school, no normal learning process. The output is total debilitation and degradation of schoolchildren, and then society.

What to do


The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia. Total commercialization of Russian society and culture. Our country has become part of the Western world of the "golden calf" - a consumer society that leads to self-destruction and destruction of the entire planet and humanity. To stop this process, it is necessary to return to the original path of development of Russian civilization. With the rule of ethics of conscience and social justice.

No need to reinvent the wheel, you need to return to the classic Russian (Soviet) school. Take Soviet methods, programs and textbooks, adapt them to the present. The Soviet school was the best in the world. Use this foundation to create a society of creators and creators, and not slaves of the "digital concentration camp", as it is now. It is also necessary to restore order and discipline in schools, to put an end to “tolerance” towards loafers, hooligans and juvenile delinquents.

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  1. Van 16 3 October 2019 05: 44 New
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    Everything is correct in the article. And in general, to break - not to build, all that our "reformers" undertake immediately starts to sink.
    1. Amurets 3 October 2019 06: 01 New
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      Quote: Van 16
      Everything is correct in the article. And in general, to break - not to build, all that our "reformers" undertake immediately starts to sink.
      More precisely, what work they don’t entrust, everything will fill up.
      A photo in the beginning of the article class! Nostalgia for childhood. In this form we went. to school in primary school. How long ago it was, and the most unloved was to write in the form of letters. Until now, the handwriting is clumsy, but they taught us very high quality
      1. Strashila 3 October 2019 06: 37 New
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        and not with a ballpoint pen, but with a pen.
        1. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 07: 01 New
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          Quote: Strashila
          but with a pen.

          And with different hi push!
          1. Strashila 3 October 2019 07: 10 New
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            there was a nonsense.
        2. Amurets 3 October 2019 07: 05 New
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          Quote: Strashila
          and not with a ballpoint pen, but with a pen.

          Feather it later as an encouragement. And be sure to pen number 11 "Asterisk"
          And the inkwells were different. In our school, unlike other schools, they wrote in black, ink of this color could not be found, so black aniline dye was dissolved and ink was obtained.
          1. Van 16 3 October 2019 07: 09 New
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            And there were blunders in the notebooks yes
          2. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 07: 18 New
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            Quote: Amurets
            the inkwells were different

            They were plugged with a stopper and rushed separately, in a bag, so as not to fill notebooks and textbooks in a portfolio.
          3. serg.shishkov2015 3 October 2019 07: 55 New
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            I have 15 such feathers in the collection! There are old instructional filmstrips, even on glass plates, and just movies!
          4. besserbest 4 October 2019 00: 52 New
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            But the "skeleton" we were forbidden to write.
            1. Amurets 4 October 2019 02: 04 New
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              Quote: besserbest
              But the "skeleton" we were forbidden to write

              We, too, but my father loved these feathers, it was convenient to write with ink in them. He often had to sign nameplates in electrical cabinets.
          5. Devil13 4 October 2019 16: 38 New
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            Damn, I wrote with a fountain pen at school (one in the class, thanks to my mother), it was such a buzz ...
          6. Machito 6 October 2019 23: 55 New
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            Today I heard a story. In Moscow, parents sent the child to first grade. Half a class of Kyrgyzstan. The teacher cannot give the class material on the school curriculum because half of the class do not understand Russian. But the child for a month in full spits in Kirkiz. Parents in shock: the school teaches their children in Kyrgyz.
        3. Amurets 4 October 2019 23: 27 New
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          Quote: Strashila
          and not with a ballpoint pen, but with a pen.

          After the reform of education, EMNIP in 1965, in 1966, I remember exactly, there were two graduations, 10 graders and 11 graders, after the 8th grade, who went on to study further in school, wrote down notebooks with fountain pens, as in the institute , since the old programs were canceled, and the new programs did not have textbooks, it was left to us and the teachers. Sometimes, during a lesson, a bulk fountain pen was written to dry and during breaks it was often possible to see how high school students refilled their fountain pens. That's when the handwriting got badly damaged. Recently I found my physics notebook for the 9th grade, looked, so for the lesson we wrote out 5-7 pages. Where it was possible to display every little letter, everything is quickly clumsy and so that you can understand.
      2. Revival 4 October 2019 18: 20 New
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        Well, depending on how you look!
        It depends on what they were instructed!
        And then maybe the opposite is complete success?
    2. Grandfather 3 October 2019 06: 06 New
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      There is no order at school, no normal learning process. The output is the total debilitation and degradation of schoolchildren, and then society
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      1. Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 08: 59 New
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        funny video. The teacher was culturally sent to the famous place by the bear.
        1. New Year day 3 October 2019 11: 11 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The teacher was culturally sent to the famous place by the bear.

          Figuratively, he sent all state employees. Time passed and they sent everyone and began to quit. The catastrophe is not only with doctors, but also with teachers
          1. Oleg (Kharkov) 3 October 2019 21: 07 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Figuratively, he sent all state employees.

            You're right
            Here, read:
            https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=647227&p=1
            Weekdays teachers. P. Astapov.
          2. A.Lex 4 October 2019 13: 18 New
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            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The teacher was culturally sent to the famous place by the bear.

            Figuratively, he sent all state employees. Time passed and they sent everyone and began to quit. The catastrophe is not only with doctors, but also with teachers

            Himself a former teacher of physical education at school. As the opportunity arose, he quit and moved to the village. It got to the point that they threatened with the barrel and just reprisal. Once they threw a knife right on the porch of the school ... Due to the quick reaction, I pulled out the knife and carried it to the principal ... The result is FULL ZERO ...
            Now I’m working at Gazprom ... When my children receive a comment (the eldest daughter’s teacher complains), I prescribe the guys hot (in extreme cases) or arrange a “psychological pump” (most often), because I understand that it’s not easy for teachers , so also the blockheads will wind their nerves ...
            Work experience at school at the time of dismissal - 6 years old, was a teacher of the second category ... They didn’t want to let go ... they gave their labor when the school year began. And the director was still old, the Soviet "hardening" (this is in the school where he went and worked the last two years), persuaded everything ... He graduated from a teacher training college in 1990. (that is, Soviet education was still ... what one is taught now - one can imagine) ... Then he graduated from a university (formerly institute) ... but they were not taught there as seriously as in Soviet times.
            I didn’t go to school in the countryside - the memories of the “rights of the child” were too fresh ... and then I don’t see the point of changing anything, and the age is not the same.
          3. A catastrophe with this state is inevitable. For Russia, for the whole country. No one will stand aside. Not only ,, doctors with teachers ,,. Everywhere A PARODY FOR LIFE. In domestic political life there is no clear division into the ruling party and the opposition, there is no understanding that the opinion of the opposition is important for the normal functioning of the state .... In the economy there is no clear division into the private sector and the state. They pretend that they don’t know the effective correlation of these sectors and, having pumped up state-owned enterprises with taxpayer money, they famously privatize them ... The school, by order of world and homegrown non-people, grows up bad people (as this definition was understood in the 30th century), ,. They are easily forced to work for ,, the masters of the world ,, - ,, ordinary nonhumans ,,. Those who arranged, for example, the demolition of the twin towers in New York, the Pentagon’s attack with a cruise missile ... Healthcare deliberately introduces chaos, interfering with a bunch, free and paid services ... The spiritual health of the nation is also a big question . What can a well-known hierarch-impostor and all of his command give Russia? What is the case with the Third Rome, is it possible? But is there an ARMY in this state? Or only a certain number of people in military uniforms? For example, Donetsk is literally flooded with people in uniform. So what? ,, Motorola ,, was killed in the city center, the Head of the Republic Zakharchenko was killed in the city center ... That is. the presence of a large number of people in uniform does not save from problems. There are many questions to the quality of the officer corps. On what foundation have they been raised for the last XNUMX years? .... ,, Honor and dignity ,, are an empty phrase if there are no conditions and mechanisms for implementation. But for PEOPLE, these concepts are very important. They are especially important for those who have chosen to defend their homeland as their profession. For nonhumans, the above concepts are abstract abrocadabra. They are not interested. ,, Milking ,, the country of residence is their favorite pastime. A century of any state on the territory of Russia will not be long if it ignores the basic values ​​of millennial Russia
          4. Campanella 5 October 2019 01: 52 New
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            In general, he confirmed the opinion repeatedly stated by small officials that the state owes nothing to a citizen! I have only one question, to the professor’s son, the citizens of Russia also do not owe anything to this Medvedev sub-state.
            And here I agree with the position of Prokhanov, who predicts a new demolition of Russia against the backdrop of increasing activity of arrangers and the unwillingness of the authorities to make a real qualitative leap that takes into account the interests of the people.
            Medvedev is a direct example of unprecedented cynicism and outright stupidity, he probably does not know that he is the prime minister of the state of Russia? And behaves like a simple layman?
      2. Campanella 4 October 2019 10: 49 New
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        A deeply non-state person holding a responsible post. His philistine approach to solving state problems is absolutely obvious. And what should one think about the president, who patronizes him?
        On the one hand, there seem to be some seemingly correct outwardly political steps for the president, on the other hand, complete lack of talent and inability to solve domestic political and economic problems.
        I always have a cognitive dissonance on these individuals, on and their decisions. I can assume that my ignorance and not knowing the realities of political life is to blame, but such political trash grows out of our common human environment. Well, how do they forget the roots of human communication?
        I can assume the basis and root cause of this in extreme cynicism and megacenterism of these subjects. These are solvers that do not solve the problem itself, but drive it to hell, offering new meanings.
        I am even more convinced of the slop human material that is used in the leadership of the country.
      3. Revival 4 October 2019 18: 24 New
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        That is, returning to the wording of the question: the police and security forces are not officially calling, but making money!
        Then it explains a lot and puts in its place, answers many rhetorical questions ...
        1. Campanella 5 October 2019 01: 58 New
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          We now have no vocation as such. There is a provision of services)))
          Siloviki provide a service, guess who? But not only to the true bearer of power, but to the parsley supposedly popularly elected ...
    3. Civil 3 October 2019 07: 43 New
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      1. Children should not learn from under the stick, but strictly consciously. And if the children are limp rags, then this is actually a problem of the people, the families who raised them and sent to school.
      2. Teachers also relaxed and do not want to work, especially for free to prepare for the exam that got everyone.
      3.
      Our country has become part of the Western world of the "golden calf" - a consumer society that leads to self-destruction and destruction of the entire planet and humanity.

      Is it really in the West with such a scientific school and achievements that feudalism is also the same with the beginnings of capitalism ?!
      1. Grandfather 3 October 2019 08: 21 New
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        Quote: Civil
        Is it really in the West with such a scientific school and achievements that feudalism is also the same with the beginnings of capitalism ?!

        no, there they are moving more and more to the Soviet system, and vocational colleges are opening, and they are closing us, "managers" are more important to us.
        1. Nyrobsky 3 October 2019 10: 19 New
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          no, there they are moving more and more to the Soviet system, and trade colleges are opening, and they are closing down with us

          They optimize diligently - "The result of the optimization was the reduction since 2001 of the number of kindergartens from 51 to 48 thousand, rural schools - from 46 to 24 thousand, urban - from 23 to 18 thousand units." Obviously, the aim is to fill the classes as much as possible according to the number of students, which in turn leads to the fact that the teacher does not have time and opportunity to pay attention to each student.
          1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 14 New
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            2001, the number of kindergartens from 51 to 48 thousand, rural schools - from 46 to 24 thousand, urban - from 23 to 18 thousand units "These statistics will not be complete - without statistics on the extinction of villages and villages since 2001 - young people left, the elderly died, hospitals and the schools were empty and closed there - they disappeared, such a tendency with the disappearance of villages and towns from the 50s has been going on - pure urbanization.
            1. Nyrobsky 3 October 2019 15: 26 New
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              Quote: Vadim237
              2001, the number of kindergartens from 51 to 48 thousand, rural schools - from 46 to 24 thousand, urban - from 23 to 18 thousand units "These statistics will not be complete - without statistics on the extinction of villages and villages since 2001 - young people left, the elderly died, hospitals and the schools were empty and closed there - they disappeared, such a tendency with the disappearance of villages and towns from the 50s has been going on - pure urbanization.

              I agree with you in that the statistics without taking into account the extinction of small n / points is not complete, but we must admit that it was the liberals who gave a catastrophic acceleration to this process. Since the 90s, about 70 thousand villages, villages and towns have disappeared from the map of Russia for the reason that the "young reformers" deprived the population of these n / points of means of production (liquidation of collective farms and state farms) and, as a result, livelihoods, after which hit the objects of culture and the social sphere through the elimination of clubs, houses of culture, post offices, paramedics, kindergartens and schools. I think you agree that it was these processes that led to the outflow of the population from the periphery and to the fact that the North, D. Vostok and Siberia were depopulated. The people went where they can earn money and how to live, i.e. to the cities. So this is not pure urbanization, but forced. The fact that this policy is quite self-conscious is confirmed by the words of E. Nabiullina, who (not verbatim, but something like that) expressed that the content of small towns and other n / points is "not cost-effective" and it is better to develop megacities. As for the deserted regions, economic activity on their territory can also be carried out on a rotational basis. "If the sovereigns from the time of Catherine thought it was too wasteful to chop heads in the vast Russian territory and sent criminals to Siberia for eternal settlement, this can be called the presence of state thinking, but that’s what Nabiullina said and what our liberal government is doing - this is state stupidity covered by bookkeeping.
              1. Vadim237 3 October 2019 15: 59 New
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                This process of extinction of the village began back in the 50s and continued until the 90s intensified in the 90s and continues to this day, everyone moves to the regional centers and large cities of "70 thousand villages" - This is the USSR lost in the great Russian. For the 90s, 9700 for the 2000s, another 4000.
                1. Campanella 4 October 2019 10: 57 New
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                  Speaking of certain "natural" trends, you thereby remove all responsibility from the country's leaders for the results of their work.
                  Here in Moscow, not dying, the school director takes and removes a physical education teacher in a kindergarten. These are all links of one chain, there is a systematic reduction of everything and everything, i.e. the extinction of the entire economic organism of the state. And global trends have nothing to do with it, this is purely the result of the work of the bears ...
                  I wouldn’t even put him in as a foreman of the janitors.
              2. Vadim237 3 October 2019 16: 00 New
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                The North, D. Vostok and Siberia were depopulated. - To be honest, they were not particularly populated before either.
                1. Nyrobsky 3 October 2019 16: 30 New
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                  Quote: Vadim237
                  The North, D. Vostok and Siberia were depopulated. - To be honest, they were not particularly populated before either.

                  Previously, about 15 million people lived in the northern regions, now about 5 million. Reduction by 2/3. For example, in 1991, about 1 million 300 thousand lived in the Komi Republic. Now there are 830 thousand. The territory is like two in France, and the population is less than in Perm. I think you don’t have to explain what enormous natural resources are clogged in the northern bowels and what kind of interest our “partners” show in the North, but instead of preserving the population of these regions, which would keep the infrastructure of the North in good condition, our government is doing everything in order to bare the North. Our neighbor also looks sideways at the Far East.
                  1. your1970 3 October 2019 19: 41 New
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                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    Previously, about 15 million people lived in the northern regions, now about 5 million. Reduction by 2/3. For example, in the Komi Republic in 1991, about 1 million 300 thousand lived, now 830 thousand
                    -Only you forget that in the USSR there was a restriction on the place of residence for the "sitters".
                    And the “eagle”, who spent 10 years, could not leave Komi stupidly, in general.

                    And the distribution after universities - when you want / do not want to go to Kominik absolutely did not wave anyone. Paper in the mouth and forth - where the Motherland will send ....
                    And the “Komsomol vouchers” - there was also quite a way to keep the population in a place not very popular for living .... Something I didn’t hear about such “Komsomol vouchers” in Sochi then - but to the BAM or to Yakutia- full of people unas left
                    1. Nyrobsky 3 October 2019 23: 03 New
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                      Quote: your1970
                      -Only you forget that in the USSR there was a restriction on the place of residence for the "sitters".
                      And the “eagle”, who spent 10 years, could not leave Komi stupidly, in general.

                      You are wrong. It is possible that the prisoners of the 50s, who had a loss of rights by conviction and remained in the places of serving their sentences after serving their sentences, but at least in the USSR of the 70s and before its collapse in 1991, there was no such obligation. Moreover, the released convict was obliged to indicate the address of departure, he acquired a ticket to the indicated place of residence where he was obliged to register and get a job, otherwise he could rattle on the bunk for a year for parasitism. But you are right in that part of the vacated z / c in view of the destroyed social, family and family ties did indeed remain on the permanent residence in the same region where they were serving their sentences in order to “start life from scratch,” which they did voluntarily. Some really became quite respected people, had awards and incentives for work, and some managed to return quickly enough under the care of the Ministry of Internal Affairs-FSIN.
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                      And the distribution after universities - when you want / do not want to go to Kominik absolutely did not wave anyone. Paper in the mouth and forth - where the Motherland will send ....
                      And the “Komsomol vouchers” - there was also quite a way to keep the population in a place not very popular for living .... Something I didn’t hear about such “Komsomol vouchers” in Sochi then - but to the BAM or to Yakutia- full of people unas left
                      What was, was, I can’t argue with that. But it was rather a plus than a minus, because the state thus restrained the internal migration of the population and thereby ensured the development of the regions. As soon as the state eliminated itself, these regions from developing developed into the category of depressed ones.
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                        Judging by their comments, it’s justifiable: the entire population has declined, they are inmates who were finally able to leave
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                        Judging by their comments, it’s justifiable: the entire population has declined, they are inmates who were finally able to leave
                        - No
                        1) "sitters" of the USSR-just stupidly died by age. As well as pensioners of the USSR
                        2) the “sidelords” of the Russian Federation in such a distance have not been transported for a long time for financial reasons
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                        Yes, only earlier something new in “repression” and “totalitarianism” was born, and then suddenly, with progress, they ended
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                        Quote: your1970
                        Quote: Revival
                        Judging by their comments, it’s justifiable: the entire population has declined, they are inmates who were finally able to leave
                        - No
                        1) "sitters" of the USSR-just stupidly died by age. As well as pensioners of the USSR
                        2) the “sidelords” of the Russian Federation in such a distance have not been transported for a long time for financial reasons

                        This is debatable. On the first point, in principle, I agree, there are few of them (the sitters of the era of the USSR) left, but those who stayed do not like the young criminal shoot, they live out of concept and try to solve everything by lawlessness. They do not honor, so to speak, old people of authority. At one time, when I worked pom. the driver from 1982 to 1984, and we fed wagons into the zone for loading timber, at the OER (special regime) I still saw those who had portraits of Lenin and Stalin on their chests. By the way, there was a very well-read and intelligent people, speech without a mat, and every word said was considered. There are few of them now, yes. As for the second point, you are partly right, but not quite. Despite the fact that it is advisable that the occupants were from local ones to save budget money, due to the low population of some regions and the presence on their territory of zones (correctional colonies) with a set limit of filling that exceeds the number of criminal contingent that the region can give, in principle, stages go around the country with prisoners natives of different places, as before, in order to fill the available zones up to the established limit, since its undersupply leads to the fact that a person reduction can be carried out ala colony, and even its closure. In short, there are citizens from all Russian neighborhoods there.
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                And now so oil painting
                in the north, no one will live in filthy conditions, no transport infrastructure, agriculture is impossible, permanent permafrost and a short summer .. If they continue to explore and extract oil and gas, the workers will go there on a shift and then return home
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              Here a friend said that there were fewer schools because there were fewer people. But does this comrade know that, for example, churches are being built at an accelerated pace, and now the number of schools and churches is almost the same? The question to comrade is why then churches and temples are being built intensively, because according to the theory of the comrade, the people have become smaller?
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                The people as it was and remains - just now most of the population lives in cities because there is nothing to do in the villages And with your examples of building churches - go fuck.
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                  The people as it was and remains - just now most of the population lives in cities since there is nothing to do in the villages
                  You shouldn’t be so. The problem of the population and territories today really exists, but there is no policy of fixing the population, or attracting them to certain territories. So Russia will never be able to develop and improve its territory, which will always excite the brains of our "sworn friends" and move them to the idea of ​​chopping off part of the territories from Russia, especially those that have minerals. At one time, a certain American owl Madeleine Albright spoke out about Siberia (not literally, but something like that) - "It is a great injustice that Siberia belongs to Russia, while it should be the property of all mankind"
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                  And with your examples of building churches, go fuck.
                  Losing exposure is bad. And yet, as an example, Stefan of Perm in 1380 went to Perm the Great of pagans (maybe white-eyed) to baptize at the call of his heart (without salary, bonus, daily allowance and business trip), simply because he fulfilled his mission and expanded the Russian state through the conversion of pagans to Orthodox faith. His flock was very conditional and did not bring him gifts to ensure his necessities of life, then she burned herself and buried herself in holes in protest, then showered with arrows. He settled in Ust-Vymi at the confluence of the Vymy and Vychegda rivers, rebuilt the church, found a flock, developed the alphabet for it in the local dialect and after pissing for some time, rested in the Bose and went down in history as a saint, and the state, in the person of new converts Zyryans gained the defenders of its northern borders from the raids of all kinds of busurman. And now here is such a hat - in the FSIN system of Russia, almost in every colony they took churches to build churches, and invite local masters to cover them and open them, after which they (in addition to departmental officers) have chests (chiefs from the penitentiary system) on their chests from the church medals are formed. You understand the flock yourself, in sins as in silk, for the most part with domes and crosses, full of mascara stuffed with ink, repenting for an audience with the priest, who, because of their financial scarcity and lack of “earthly goods”, doesn’t live in colonies in villages, and visits them with arrivals, as a collector of yasak in the old days. Well, at the FSIN level, after a while, a decision is made to liquidate some colonies and transfer the contingent to other regions with a reduction in state and civilian personnel ... Tyn, dy..ry..ryn - The village is closed, the flock has been transported, the population is with children and the trunks went around the cities and towns, and the temple? ... The temple remained standing. Some time will pass and the taiga will return everything back and only the bears will scratch the withers on the corner of the temple. And he (the abandoned temple) is not alone in the country. Why built? Where are the priests? There are none of them. Were transferred to see the Stefans of Perm, ready to endure hardship for faith. It may make sense to oblige the FSIN system to roll out the log cabins of these temples to logs, and to transfer them to residential settlements with transfer to the church balance (as a gift), so that they would not be wasted, moreover, this sacrilege and sacrilege. Is it interesting ?! - and you say - "follow the vegetable."
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                    “It will excite the brains of our“ sworn friends ”and move them to the idea of ​​chopping off part of the territories from Russia” - Who to excite - who surrendered to our impenetrable swampy camarino - the vile half-frozen tundra? The Chinese - they are already in chocolate 94 people live in the South China Sea and are definitely not going to move from there. The Americans - they are all the same warm along the coast, if something happens to their territory, they will disperse around the world in warm countries like Australia, Fiji, Hawaii and so on. Due to global warming, permafrost in our northern territories will melt, turning everything into a continuous swamp, exposing viruses and infections - which are waiting in the permafrost, methane will begin to accumulate, which in large volumes will begin to accumulate in underground void chambers and then break out onto destroying the surface of everything that is nearby - and God forbid that there would be a residential building or a village with electric networks nearby, one spark in the process of ejecting such huge volumes of gas and an explosion as an atomic bomb of low power. Such emissions are already occurring on the Yamal Peninsula and not only
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                    Quote: Vadim237
                    “It will excite the brains of our“ sworn friends ”and move them to the idea of ​​chopping off part of the territories from Russia” - Who to excite - who surrendered to our impenetrable swampy camarino - the infamous semi-frozen tundra? ...

                    It is the Americans with foam at the mouth who assert their right to where they have no rights, namely to their presence in the Arctic and challenge the true and sovereign right of Russia to the Northern Sea Route.
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    Due to global warming, permafrost in our northern territories will melt, turning everything into a continuous swamp, exposing viruses and infections - which are waiting in the permafrost, methane will begin to accumulate, which in large volumes will begin to accumulate in underground void chambers and then break out onto destroying the surface of everything that is nearby - and God forbid that there would be a residential building or a village with electric networks nearby, one spark in the process of ejecting such huge volumes of gas and an explosion as an atomic bomb of low power. Such emissions are already occurring on the Yamal Peninsula and not only

                    Are you a specialist in forecasting apocalypse? In this case, I do not share your forecasts and concerns. Look at the tundra from space - solid lakes. What you cited as an example (another funnel) is nothing more than a routine natural process for the birth of another lake. If the forecast presented by you is realized, then Japan will disappear, and part of China, Europe and the USA will be flooded, and then it will certainly not be in the Arctic. As a matter of fact, everything in nature is cyclical. In Vorkuta, at a depth of several hundred meters, coal is mined, which, for a minute! woody! So Vorkuta was once geographically located in the tropics, but for some reason the planet Earth, having made somersault, shifted at the poles and Vorkuta became a zone of the Far North. Once in the ice age, the advancing glacier drove from the Arctic pastures herds of mammoths peacefully grazing, which reached the steppes of Kazakhstan. Everything will be once, but alas, we will not survive, and only Russia will remain in its place and within its borders. For sim hi
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                    The permafrost in the north begins to melt and this is a fact - and it will accompany all of the above and this is the same fact.
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                    And why will Japan disappear? A significant part of its territory is much higher than sea level.
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                    Quote: Sergej1972
                    And why will Japan disappear? A significant part of its territory is much higher than sea level.

                    This is not my statement, but the forecast of scientists. Somewhere there is a map on which the projection depicts the territory of states that will go under water in case of active melting of glaciers and permafrost. So, among others, Japan will also suffer significant territorial losses. I do not argue, Fuji will remain. hi
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                    So we can bear it too. Eastern Siberia can withstand the Far East, but there are questions about Western Siberia.)
          2. Revival 4 October 2019 18: 33 New
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            Yes, he does not care about the fate of the country.
            They do not understand the effect of “depopulation” at all, that if there is no population in the territory, then it will become, as a result, a foreign territory and even “legal” (like a referendum like that suddenly in that territory).
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            Yes, he does not care about the fate of the country.
            They do not understand the effect of “depopulation” at all, that if there is no population in the territory, then it will become, as a result, a foreign territory and even “legal” (like a referendum like that suddenly in that territory).

            I agree with you. The problem lies in the fact that recently there have been more and more such “prosperous for oneself”. They have more Siberia, less Siberia, absolutely for vegetables, the main thing is that the personal refrigerator should be packed.
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            I'm not talking about Siberia, but about the North of Russia.
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          "Yes, he does not care about the fate of the country." Take and drive to the north, develop gas swamps and permafrost - only at your own expense. This will, in the end, become a foreign territory - there are no pretenders to it either in Canada or in the USA or in China anywhere in general. "Op and a type of referendum suddenly in this territory" There is no one there to carry it out of besides mosses and Polar bears and other inhabitants of these territories - military bases will be enough for them to protect the natural resources there, workers will come to the watch for their extraction - to build cities there it will not work for the reasons described above - alas, this is forever, too harsh conditions they will continue to deteriorate.
  • Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 09: 05 New
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    Not from under the stick children should learn, but strictly consciously

    The kids are all different, for example, I studied from under the stick. In the certificate all three. Nevertheless, the level of knowledge is higher than that of a wife who graduated from high school 16 years later, with only a couple of fours in the certificate. The rest 5. And I often pin her up with this. laughing
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      For example, I studied from under the stick. In the certificate all three.

      We had a school with a labor bias. Most classmates with a criminal past. Many are no longer - killed or drunk. So, I was in such a "wonderful" school, also a three-way. But he pulled himself together - he entered the institute. And there was already a completely different atmosphere, other people. And by the way before, not even the phenomenon, but the concept of a “bribe” in the institutes was not, as well as paid education.
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        But he pulled himself together - he entered the institute.

        And at 16 I was stuck in a VAZ.
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        And by the way before, not just phenomena, but concepts there was no "bribe" in institutes
        -yes-yes-yes !! and a joke about
        "This is not a ram - this is a gift
        and the ram is studying at the institute !! "© folk
        also in the year 2015, they probably came up with .... or not?
        So I heard him in 1978 .....
        fool fool
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      Often, grades do not correspond to real knowledge and skills. Since both the Soviet system and the non-present (brought to the point of absurdity) are set up to pass educated exams. It’s not at all about teaching him the initial professional skills and setting up his brain “in line with the chosen specialty”. As in a school, the task of which, IMHO, is to teach learning .....
  • frog 3 October 2019 11: 04 New
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    Is it really in the West with such a scientific school and achievements that feudalism is also the same with the beginnings of capitalism ?!

    As soon as you are interested in this question, look on the net for the film "Ivory Tower", EMNIP. He is with a Russian translation, where they themselves talk about their education.
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    Not from under the stick children should learn, but strictly consciously.


    How did your parents make you study? AND DO NOT THINK TO SAY THAT THE ORPHANE IS MILITARY !!!

    This is for once!

    And two.

    Do you have children?
  • New Year day 3 October 2019 09: 18 New
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    Everything is correct in the article. And in general, to break - not to build, all that our "reformers" undertake immediately starts to sink.

    But what to do with the main reformer?
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    Everything is correct in the article.

    Nothing of the kind, the author threw stamps, he does not understand how the Western system and education work.
    The main mistake of the "reformers" of the Russian Federation is that in adopting Western models, they managed (or specifically) to worsen and simplify, one must either leave the old one or adopt it normally. For example, in Britain, in humanitarian subjects, continuous written work. To be able to express an idea and write down on a given topic, the main thing they are taught, and in the Russian Federation, in literature and native language, mainly tests. How can the Russian language be evaluated with pluses in tests? Here it is.
    In state schools, the author is a perfect layman. They come from everywhere and they carry out some training, standardization and screening, unsuitable for society. It pays attention to the education of a law-abiding person who does not comply with the system of rules, he is cut off career growth. They also raise an individualist, a consumer.
    I advise the author to abandon mossy cliches and myths and, for example, see migrant bloggers about foreign schools.
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    Let me disagree wink You simply assume, as apparently many others, that the reforms "with us" are carried out precisely with the declared goal, so to speak, with the goal of de jure. In fact, everything is somewhat wrong, IMHO, of course. Reforms are carried out in order to give the "right people" to earn and "reduce the burden on the budget." There are other goals, but the main ones are these. These goals are perfectly realized. Take a look at the difference in the salary of the director of the school and the teacher or the head of the clinic there and, in fact, the attending physician.
    With all of these programs and textbooks / manuals, people have made tons of money. And the quality of education - who cares? If we already use pilots-migrant workers, since they have erased their production, what school are we talking about?
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      with the filing of such crazy, our women will work forever !!! (demonic laughter).
      Russian TV presenter Yelena Malysheva, working on Channel One, urged to think about raising the retirement age for women. She stated this after a round table in Moscow.

      “Today, when a woman retires at 55, it is clear that she will live without working for another 30-40 years. And something needs to be done with this, ”explained Malyshev’s idea, saying that life expectancy in Russia is growing rapidly. - From my point of view, two things need to be done today. First: immediately extend the retirement age to 67, as it is done in all civilized countries. ”
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      Quote: frog
      Reforms are carried out in order to give the "right people" to earn
      -ag ... only here is the trouble - to "earn" you need cancel the exam, generally....
      And then - when all it will be necessary to take exams - traffic cops will die of envy, oil workers will sell towers - so that a teacher gets a job at a secondary school in Uryupinsk, deputies will fight - for the sake of the place of an English teacher in school number 5 in Kurdykino village ..
      For even now teachers occasionally manage to take bribes for about exam activities. And when everyone passes ..... and all parents will pay, otherwise there will be no school ....
      So the reforms are for sure not for
      Quote: frog
      give the "right people" to earn
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        Let's just say that the Unified State Examination, EMNIP, were introduced not at all in 1992. Something I then do not recall bursts at the teacher. And, again, the principle of objectivity in assessing knowledge itself is not bad. And here's the implementation ..... And as for the “make money,” I'm afraid you didn't quite understand)) It was about a great number of textbook writers and programmers, as well as all kinds of obscene letter combinations from pedagogy. Well, there are much more familiar comrades here, you can ask them.
        And about the terrible bribe-taking of education - sorry, but I had something to do with it and have ..... You dreamed about it, believe me. Since getting into a university is not the most difficult))) This is with the current system, where the university’s budget depends on the “population”, in the vast majority of closed joint-stock companies, you can play football with a bolt. Previously, it somehow didn’t work out, half a group was expelled lightly .....
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          Let's just say that the Unified State Exam, EMNIP, were introduced not at all in 1992. Something I then do not recall bursts at the teacher.
          - they took bribes and decent ones at the beginning of the 90s - only on the way !!!! The nanny finished at 93 - 300 dollars exam for "5" at a school in the glorious city of Saratov. Otherwise, a solid "3 +" ...
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            A considerable number of acquaintances and their children finished around the same years .... The percentage of bribery did not differ from the usual one. I will not say that he was not, but ..... like everywhere else.
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              Quote: frog
              The percentage of bribery did not differ from the usual one. I will not say that he was not, but ..... like everywhere else.
              -just then it was still Soviet people ... and now it will be a generation that grew up on the idea of ​​BABLA ...
              guess at one time, will they take loot en masse in such situations (cancellation of the USE) or not?
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                How can I tell you ... Since entrance exams to universities will appear automatically - they go through the woods, these people)))) They will not be interesting to anyone. In addition, a long time ago ways .... mmm ..... bribery in schools worked out. if you didn’t know, nobody "takes a paw", systemically. Everything is much simpler.
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                  Since entrance exams to universities will appear automatically - they go through the woods, these people)))) They will not be interesting to anyone. In addition, methods have long been
                  - But will they admit all the doubles to those exams at the university (which will be automatic) or will they still get the average mark for the certificate?
                  And yes, university exams will be more expensive lol
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                    1. Vadim237 4 October 2019 12: 01 New
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                      "When the universities complete the absolutely patented patented .... s. It’s not at all major, the most trivial b ... about." You don’t write about everyone, you don’t know how everyone learns - there are smart people, there are fools and it will always be.
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                      And I'm not talking about everyone, I'm talking about the statistical majority. If touched - call. But, unfortunately, this is exactly the situation. Yes, a friend of a senior, not having completed a magistracy, had already received an offer to go to the gnomes and do science there.
                      But on one Korolev or Alekseev there were hundreds and thousands of just engineers (or other specialists) not geniuses, but honestly doing their job. And now there are none, from the word at all. And if there is, then ..... The engineer turns out after 10 years. If you have anyone and what to learn. But now, alas, this is not. Because I know how it all happens in practice.
                      As already mentioned, not all non-modern "young specialists" are boobies, sorry. But, unfortunately, the majority. And we would be like that, but the system made us scratch. And now completely different things ....
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      You write as if the exam can not be bought right now. The exam is even bought, there are whole regions that specialize in this.
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    Everything is correct in the article. And in general, to break - not to build, all that our "reformers" undertake immediately starts to sink.

    Is that all right? Can I clarify a couple of questions then?
    1) "The Soviet school was the best in the world" (I do not dispute, I specify) on the basis of what the author makes such statements? Gagarin studied in a Soviet school or Gaidar-Chubais? Or based on what? Personal opinion?
    2) “The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia ...” Again, if everything was perfect in it, where did Gaidar-Chubais come from and get into the elite? Or did Putin teleport them to the past with ideas from a future already destroyed education?
    3) "There is no order in the school, there is no normal learning process. The output is total debilitation and degradation of schoolchildren, and then society." - The author could give examples of the "normal order" and compare with what is now, but why .. you can just blunders without evidence ...
    4) “Due to the growth of violence in society, schools are already reminiscent of prisons.” And here we add the quote from paragraph 3 “There is no order in the school, there is no normal learning process. The output is total debilitation and degradation of schoolchildren, and then society.” ..Author, in principle, does not understand what affects what and how ...
    5) "total" liberalization. "Literally totalitarian methods of protecting the rights of the child have been created." I’m embarrassed to clarify against the protection of the rights of the child in principle? Or do you think that a teacher should have more power? Or what exactly do you want? Oh yes, quotes ... "Due to the growth of violence in society, schools already resemble prisons." (Again, the author loses himself.)
    6) “An excellent film on this subject is“ The Director ”with D. Belushi in the title role (1987), where the hero fights with the youth gang. Or“ Only the Strongest ”(1993) with M. Dakaskos in the title role. "And what about the conscience films the author did not deign to watch? and sincerely believes that everything was good in Soviet schools? I highly recommend the "Big Break" for the comedy - the problems of the Soviet school are slipping, but you need to be able to understand and see them ..

    Brief summary .. "anyway .............."
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    Quote: Van 16
    Everything is correct in the article. And in general, to break - not to build, all that our "reformers" undertake immediately starts to sink.


    It is necessary to give Putin and his team time - he was elected in 2018. He got a lot of problems from the former president, he cannot be expected to fix everything in a couple of years.
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      It is necessary to give Putin and his team time - he was elected in 2018.

      So hello. Yak children. Got out. Putin's APPOINTED in 2000, no longer have illusions about elections and re-elections.
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    Everything is correct in the article. And in general, to break - not to build, all that our "reformers" undertake immediately starts to sink.

    a feeling that it’s worse now than during the time of Hitler’s Mr.
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    The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia.

    And the conductor of this ideology is the class in power. You can change the content of the Ministry of Education as much as you like, talk about the lack of ideological dogmas in modern Russia - they will continue to make a “competent consumer” out of the kids, as one of the destroyers of our school inadvertently put it. For the most part, the current ruling class needs precisely such people - stupid visitors to social networks. It doesn’t matter that the kids sometimes get mad with fat - they go buzzing over sables with bulk or shoot at school - in general, for the ideologists of this collapse, everything goes fine ...
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      We were not only taught at school, but also brought up .... And this upbringing has survived until now ....
      And who remembers that today is the birthday of Sergei Yesenin?
      Niva is compressed, groves are naked,
      Water is mist and damp.
      Wheel over the mountain blue
      The quiet sun rolled down.

      Dormant exploded road.
      Today she is dreaming,
      Which is very, very little
      Waiting for winter gray.

      Ah, and I myself am more likely to call
      I saw yesterday in a fog:
      Red-haired month foal
      Harnessed into our sleigh.
      1. Grandfather 3 October 2019 06: 49 New
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        And who remembers that today is the birthday of Sergei Yesenin?


        The village in the potholes sank,
        They hid the huts of the forest.
        Only visible on bumps and troughs,
        How the skies turn blue around.

        Howl at dusk long, winter
        Terrible wolves from skinny fields.
        In the yards in the burning hoarfrost
        Above the catches snoring horses.

        Like owl eyes behind branches
        The blizzards look at the shawls.
        And stand behind the oak nets
        Like forest scum, hemp.

        Unclean power frightened us,
        Whatever the hole is, sorcerers are everywhere.
        Into the evil frost at dusk hazy
        Galaxies hang on birches.
        1. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 06: 52 New
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          Damn you, bad guest!
          Our song will not get along with you.
          It is a pity that in childhood you did not have to
          Drown like a bucket in a well.
          It’s good for them to stand and watch,
          To paint mouths in tin kisses, -
          Only me, as a psalmist, sing
          Hallelujah is above the native country.
          That is why in September September
          On dry and cold loam,
          Head smashed about the fence,
          She poured blood on the berries of mountain ash.
          That’s why Tujil has grown
          In busting talianka voiced.
          And the straw smelling man
          Choked dashing moonshine.



          Source: http://esenin-lit.ru/esenin/text/sorokoust.htm
          1. Grandfather 3 October 2019 07: 03 New
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            Damn you, bad guest!

            Do not swear! Such a thing!
            I am not a merchant in words.
            Threw herself up and heavy
            Golden is my head.
            There is no love for either the village or the city,
            How could I convey it?
            I'll drop everything. Letting go my beard
            And I will go a tramp in Russia. winked
            1. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 07: 21 New
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              That's where the world chains are to you,
              This is where the world swindler is.
              If you want to burst out your soul here,
              That will be considered: either stupid, or drunk.
              Here it is - the world exchange,
              Here they are - scoundrels of all countries.

              These people are rotten fish,
              All America is a greedy mouth.
              But Russia is a lump!
              If only - Soviet power!
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                But Russia is a lump!
                If only - Soviet power!

                yes ... otherwise: "... read poetry to prostitutes, and fry alcohol with vagabonds ..." ... hi
      2. Svarog 3 October 2019 06: 53 New
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        And who remembers that today is the birthday of Sergei Yesenin?

        I had a friend at school, he can’t remember in the first or second grade, he wrote poetry about Yesenin ..
        I will not voice them, they are childishly naive .. but what it is .. he wrote them, not because such an assignment was .. but under the impression from the poem he heard. Now it’s hard to imagine such a thing.
        Yesenin really love ..
        1. Uncle lee 3 October 2019 06: 59 New
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          Well .... Flashed by the Soviet academic education! hi
    2. Svarog 3 October 2019 06: 48 New
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      And the conductor of this ideology is the class in power. You can change the content of the Ministry of Education as much as you like, talk about the lack of ideological dogmas in modern Russia - they will still make a "competent consumer" out of the kids

      Yes, you're right, with this ideology, you should not expect anything good. "Reformers" can be appeased only by changing power and ideology .. And then be sure to deal with the "achievements" of each of the "reformers"
    3. Amurets 3 October 2019 07: 11 New
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      The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia.

      I want to add, the Soviet school taught to think, and to think as adherents of the modern school think is harmful. The head may get sick, or start thinking in the wrong direction.
  • serg.shishkov2015 3 October 2019 06: 06 New
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    It’s not so difficult to take Soviet methods and return to those programs and textbooks! and where to get those teachers? I already wrote on VO that my senior colleagues had an unwritten code of honor! And now the generation of the YOGO came to work at the school! And how to refuse it? After all, how much money is invested in the exam! How many textbooks and manuals have been written, how many academic titles have been received! WHO will go on to cross out all this at once? Sad
    1. Vadim T. 3 October 2019 06: 58 New
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      Quote serg.shishkov2015: "where to get those teachers?"
      Dear Sergey Borisovich! As a person who has worked at the school for three decades, I can assure you: there are teachers trained in the Soviet system. I will say more: it is on them that the modern school is based. The young generation of teachers in the current conditions does not stand up for a long time: huge loads and constant stresses are not compensated for by anything, and a beggarly salary completely discourages the teaching of even the most persistent optimists. Go to the website of any school, and you will see that most of the teaching staff is made up of elderly teachers brought up and trained in the USSR. While they work, the school will hold on. But, unfortunately, nothing lasts forever: as soon as my generation of teachers leaves, there will be no one to replace him. And then a holiday will come at the destroyers. By the way, this time is just around the corner: on the strength of the years 10-12. Emergency measures will not help in the upcoming disaster. Even if they raise their salaries at times, young teachers will not go to school en masse, for one simple reason: social insecurity. Until the teacher again becomes an authority in society, nothing in education will change. But this is precisely what grief reformers are trying to prevent by all means. So I agree with the respected author of the article: without a change in the social system, there will be no change for the better.
      1. serg.shishkov2015 3 October 2019 07: 31 New
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        Greetings, colleague! I gave 14 years to school - geography, life safety, nature studies, agricultural labor, 12 years as I quit, tired of butting with the system, But this profession has remained central to my life
        1. Vadim T. 3 October 2019 07: 36 New
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          Sergey Borisovich, I am also a geographer. Happy Teacher's Day. Health, prosperity, prosperity and success in all endeavors to you and all your relatives.
          1. serg.shishkov2015 3 October 2019 07: 57 New
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            Thank! All members of the forum involved in the teaching profession, with OUR holiday!
            1. Vadim T. 3 October 2019 08: 01 New
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              I fully join! All teachers - a happy holiday! Health, endurance, patience and love for students - no matter what.
          2. Skarpzd 3 October 2019 08: 36 New
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            I congratulate you on the coming Teacher's Day! My wife, a teacher of the highest category, the Russian language and literature, also left school this summer. I'm tired without clearance. the truth is not quite out of the profession. went to school 8 species. work less, pay more. says that it’s better to sit in a stall selling bread than to return to a secondary school.
          3. Ingvar 72 3 October 2019 09: 07 New
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            Quote: serg.shishkov2015
            I gave school 14 years - geography,

            Quote: Vadim T.
            I am also a geographer

            The only favorite subject at school in recent years! drinks The teacher's name was Sofya Viktorovna. The best teacher, although strict.
            1. New Year day 3 October 2019 11: 17 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              The teacher’s name was


              I remember my favorite teachers and now. I revered the first teacher for my second mother. It’s a pity that they are no longer there.
          4. Antares 3 October 2019 11: 07 New
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            Quote: Vadim T.
            Sergey Borisovich, I am also a geographer

            I am also in the diploma. Graduate of the Geological Faculty of Geography.
            Quote: Vadim T.
            Health, prosperity, prosperity and success in all endeavors to you and all your relatives

            support
            1. serg.shishkov2015 4 October 2019 05: 55 New
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              I graduated from the biology and chemistry, the geographer was the fact that there was no other work, it’s normal, from the biology faculty a lot of things were useful in geography! and especially in natural science!
      2. Chaldon48 3 October 2019 09: 27 New
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        Change for the better in education can only be ensured. The first thing to do is to start taking care of the teacher, if only because they are now taking care of the military. The second issue in the right amount
        Soviet textbooks. By a special decree from the beginning of the school year, when there will be a sufficient supply of textbooks and visual aids to issue a decree on the return to the previous teaching method, for young teachers to organize special courses in which they could familiarize themselves with this method, now there are still teachers who are not familiar with this method by hearsay.
        1. Alexander Suvorov 3 October 2019 10: 32 New
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          The fact of the matter is that under the current government this will never happen! And the point is not even in the government, but in the state system. In the USSR, education was the best precisely because competent and qualified personnel were needed for the country, and the modern government does not need such personnel at all! They need stupid consumers of consumer goods and fast food. A competent person asks a lot of uncomfortable questions; you just can't fool him. Although ... in the USSR, almost all were literate, but go and you bought beautiful candy wrappers and jeans ...
          1. Campanella 5 October 2019 00: 36 New
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            There was a multi-doorway ... so the people didn’t sniff. Yes, and there was more faith in leaders, now just the whole Camarilla loot stupidly earns and everything else is purple to them. Medvedev openly said when answering a teacher’s question about the small salaries of teachers that a person’s problems are his personal problems, not the state’s, that is, he repeated the words of officials that the state should not owe anything to a citizen ....
    2. Strashila 3 October 2019 07: 22 New
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      teacher, this is sacred, this is the foundation of the state.
      1. Grandfather 3 October 2019 08: 43 New
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        Quote: Strashila
        teacher, this is sacred, this is the foundation of the state.

        it’s by “concepts”, but in fact, people without rights, poorly paid, defenseless against “child’s” terror.
      2. New Year day 3 October 2019 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Strashila
        teacher, this is sacred, this is the foundation of the state.


        Judging by the salary and attitude, the fucking foundation. Bismarck once said, "the teachers won the war." So then Bismarck, and then
        Medvedev
        1. Strashila 3 October 2019 11: 32 New
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          in Russia, the trend continues in the 90s of the last century, “oh, the western is the best, because the western”, or the classic of the millennia “There is a prophet in his own country”.
    3. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 19 New
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      “Soviet techniques” - They will never return again - a digital society and with self-education is now much simpler, although there is more information, and moreover, it’s significant.
  • DEDPIHTO 3 October 2019 06: 16 New
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    To stop this process, it is necessary to return to the original path of development of Russian civilization. With the rule of ethics of conscience and social justice.

    No need to reinvent the wheel, you need to return to the classic Russian (Soviet) school. Take Soviet methods, programs and textbooks, adapt them to the present. The Soviet school was the best in the world. Use this foundation to create a society of creators and creators, and not slaves of the "digital concentration camp", as it is now.
    A ridiculous joke in the current realities when liberal globalists = cosmopolitans rule the country. It is especially funny, with the dominance of the ethics of conscience and social justice, - in a country where there is an unspoken ideology of profit.
    The author, the cart in front of the horse is not harnessed, first you need to return the socialist system and then, don’t need to reinvent the wheel,
  • samarin1969 3 October 2019 06: 21 New
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    There are two problems at school:
    1) The Federal Standard (GEF) requires "skill", and the exam - "knowledge." "Educational schizophrenia."
    2) The legally dissolved student is ABSOLUTELY not restrained by anything.

    All other problems are not so significant.
    1. eagle owl 3 October 2019 06: 34 New
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      USE a priori nonsense! How can I put Russian into the test? "Rabinovich is not, Rabinovich is not homogeneous, I apologize" - a classic example. The same is with literature, history, even chemistry. Does aluminum react with oxygen in the air? The answers are yes and no - both are wrong! And in general, if you have the task of educating an intelligent scientist, or engineer, and not a locksmith, then the main thing you need to learn - from the options "left" and "right" - choose "up"! And tests kill it in the bud.
      1. samarin1969 3 October 2019 06: 40 New
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        Quote: Uhu
        USE a priori nonsense! How can I put Russian into the test?

        In the Russian language, a really very perverse form of the exam. Some questions with the text, conventions ... Otherwise, the exam provides the opportunity to test a large array of knowledge.
        1. novel66 3 October 2019 10: 59 New
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          This year, the son of the Unified State Exam took a chance - the exam itself is very poorly correlated with the school curriculum, without additional classes it’s unrealistic to pass
      2. Sergej1972 3 October 2019 10: 21 New
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        Primitive tests have long been removed from the exam.
      3. Vadim237 3 October 2019 13: 21 New
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        The test part is no more - as well as guessing.
        1. samarin1969 3 October 2019 16: 36 New
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          Quote: Vadim237
          The test part is no more - as well as guessing.

          Do not scare the history teacher. laughing On-site test tasks of the demo on history from 1 to 19 on the FIPI website. Maybe just a little confused wording.
          1. Sergej1972 5 October 2019 11: 05 New
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            These are not the primitive guessing tests that were in the former, canceled, first part of the exam in history. And so, the tasks are really interesting.
  • Ryaruav 3 October 2019 06: 22 New
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    our power is separate from education and the real economy but closer to the church
  • Strashila 3 October 2019 06: 42 New
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    "The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia.", But this is not the main one. If earlier in school they tried to raise the level of lagging behind to the level of leaders, now leaders are dropping to the level of lagging behind, because after all, why should they offend them and force them to study. Now the school is adjusting to the level of knowledge of new Russian arrivals from Central Asia. Now in most secondary schools this is the standard.
  • nikvic46 3 October 2019 06: 50 New
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    Finally, they touched on the most important topic. Before looking at modern education, we need to take a step back. In the 90s, dozens of universities with a humanitarian focus opened in each city. And we will reap the benefits of such an “experience” for a long time to come.
    1. Den717 3 October 2019 07: 51 New
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      Quote: nikvic46
      In the 90s, dozens of universities with a humanitarian focus opened in every city. And we will reap the benefits of such an “experience” for a long time to come.

      Yeah, for sure. Then there was a saying - "no brains - go to the ped." Today, a real school is run by students from the 90s. Quality, for the most part, is “about nothing.” With those who are interested, I would like to share the latest experience in graduating from the United States in 2019. No matter how we break the spears about the education system in Russia at the HE, we still will not change anything in this system, and we must think about how our children can survive in this system. That is, how to finish school and get that grade on the exam that would allow us to build a future prospect for higher education. My child went in a humanitarian direction, therefore, that I will be about him. This year, the score allowing to enter the budget in universities of the European part of Russia seriously jumped. The experience of entering a university in a specialty that takes into account knowledge in history and social science suggests that even with excellent performance in these subjects as part of the school curriculum, knowledge to obtain an assessment of 85-98 points is categorically not enough. Throughout the last school academic year, we had to deal with these two subjects for 2-3 hours 6 days a week (in total) in order to eventually get 90-98 points. Classes in the additional training course were held in a group format on the Internet. It took approx. 5 rubles. Conclusion: there is no chance to enter a university on the basis of the secondary school program in these subjects. (I write exclusively for those who need this in life. If there are no children of the appropriate age, or you are just a theorist, you can not strain wink )
      1. vvvjak 3 October 2019 09: 38 New
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        Quote: Den717
        With those who are interested, I would like to share the latest experience in graduating from the United States in 2019.

        If you are interested, I can share my impressions of the parent of the secondary school graduate in 2019.
        Quote: Den717
        excellent performance in these subjects as part of the school curriculum, the knowledge to obtain an assessment of 85-98 points is categorically not enough.

        In principle, it is true, but there are reservations. In our school, additional classes were organized in specialized subjects + electives on Saturdays (approximately $ 20 per month for everything). The last half a year of constant training testing (on Sundays). Total 7 days a week full-time, and taking into account homework, the load is not weak, even for an adult. There was already not enough time for tutors (and money). As a result, getting into the limits of 80-90 for final testing and guaranteed admission to any university in the country. Score points only with knowledge in the 1st year area (you already need to "raise" integrals, derivatives, diffurs, etc.). But even so, what they went through, I did not even hear at school.
        And yes (I almost forgot), the secondary schools finished and entered the university in Belarus.
      2. Sergej1972 3 October 2019 10: 23 New
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        This proverb, unfortunately, was known in the 70-80s.
        1. Den717 3 October 2019 11: 21 New
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          Quote: Sergej1972
          This proverb, unfortunately, was known in the 70-80s.

          I agree with you, to my great regret. The teacher was always offended by the state and salary, and legal status. Therefore, a specific contingent went into this profession - either selfless, like Sailors, or those who can’t apply for another (for various reasons, including mental ones, forgive me first). But money, of course, is a complicated thing, it happens that they are not there, but somehow you need to hold on. But the legal status of the school and, in particular, the teacher, is a thing for which we pay, but do not get an effect. I mean the legislative mission of our Duma and the application of these laws by the Government. Despite the fact that the experience is positive to .... in short, a lot, and next. Discipline at school should be enforced, as should the responsibility of parents for the behavior of their minor children be enforced. And if they are worthy of coercive measures, then we must boldly and decisively apply these measures. Who doesn’t remember the case in Germany when, for skipping a few lessons, the student’s parents were actually locked up in a cell? What is not an example? And do not suffer from "childishness." If a child is just starting to lead asocially, you must immediately return him to the legal field by all means. This poor Glatsky was branded and branded a disgrace, but what did she say wrong? Someone came to the family, asked - "be fruitful and multiply"? We ourselves are happy to do this. It’s time to understand that after this pleasure we ourselves take responsibility for everything that happens after this pleasure for at least the next 18 years. Could conceive, must be able and answer. And while dad and mom will not be seated in different chambers for a slut, nothing will change at school. You can invent a thousand advanced techniques for teaching children, but if a half-lesson teacher brings a couple of young “imbeciles” to order, there will be no sense for the whole class. This problem is not the only one, but it is significant, but almost free.
          1. Sergej1972 3 October 2019 11: 28 New
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            I agree completely.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi 3 October 2019 06: 52 New
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    The conclusions of the NATO Analytical Note on Education in the USSR (1959) contain the following thoughts:
    “States that are independently competing with the USSR are wasting their strength and resources in attempts that are doomed to failure. If it is impossible to constantly invent methods that are superior to the methods of the USSR, it’s worth seriously thinking about borrowing and adapting Soviet methods. ”

    I read somewhere recently that Great Britain switched to the Soviet school system. Well, maybe not all schools, but nonetheless.
    What to do

    All ministers led by the guarantor and others who have led the country since 1991 have to be brought to trial under the article "Mass genocide of their people." And then shoot.
    1. Cruorvult 3 October 2019 07: 01 New
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      Yeah, songs about Lenin are sung and used textbooks in Russian. Do not believe everything that is written.
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi 3 October 2019 08: 17 New
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        Yeah, songs about Lenin are sung and used textbooks in Russian. Do not believe everything that is written.

        Here is a special one for you:
        Ms. Justina Greening, head of the UK Department of Education, said during an interview on the BBC that the process of transferring British high schools to the education system of the Soviet Union has been completed.
        D. Greening is a British politician from the Conservative Party, since 2012 - the Secretary of International Development of Great Britain in the first and second offices of David Cameron, the Minister of Education and the Minister for Women and Equal Opportunities in the first and second offices of Theresa May.
        (Justin Greening resigned in early 2018)
        Justin Greening:
        In England, the Soviet experience of teaching in secondary schools began to be adopted in the 80 of the last century. The process began after the fall of the Iron Curtain, which allowed the British to see and appreciate the indisputable advantage of the educational system used in the USSR in comparison with the one adopted in Western European countries.
        During her speech, the Minister particularly emphasized that in England children are now studying according to the brilliant Soviet textbooks of Rosenthal, Landau and Kolmogorov.
        The textbooks were translated into English extremely scrupulously, in compliance with the most important requirement - to completely preserve their content, avoiding any distortion.
        As a result of the transition to the Soviet system of education, the level of knowledge acquired by British students turned out to be much higher in comparison with the indicators demonstrated by graduates of the most prestigious and expensive elite schools in continental Europe.
        This situation ultimately led to the fact that the most influential people from around the world, in particular presidents and heads of government of other countries, are striving to place their children in Eaton schools, which have been teaching in the Soviet system since 1995.
        “The Ministry of Education does not plan to stop at this stage. After we completely transferred the secondary school to the USSR education system, it was time to move on to similar changes in higher education. The Ministry is already working on a project to change the current system of awarding scientific degrees. In the UK, there will be such a title as a Ph.D.
        Previously, this was characteristic only of the Soviet Union, and in the near future, scientists with this title will also be in England.
        We studied this issue for a long time and came to the conclusion that the presence of two degrees - “candidate” and “doctor” - is much more rational in comparison with one degree PhD ”- explains the situation in British education, Ms. Greenning.
        During her speech, the minister also expressed gratitude to her Russian colleagues who are engaged in the transfer of Russian education to Western standards. “In a situation where the West takes all the best that is in the East, and vice versa, stability and security will necessarily come in the world,” Greenning noted.
        Original
        "UK completed the transition to the Soviet school system"
        1. Cruorvult 3 October 2019 09: 15 New
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          This perfectly illustrates how you eat what English calls shit.
          Interestingly, they learn from the translated textbook

          Intravital
          Mamonov V.A., Rozental D.E. Practical stylistics of the modern Russian language. - M., 1957.
          Bylinsky K. I., Rosenthal D. E. Literary editing. - M., 1957; 2nd ed. - M., 1961.
          Rosenthal D. E. Practical stylistics of the Russian language. - M., 1965.
          Rosenthal D. «.“ Coordination within the meaning ”of the predicate with the subject. - M., 1960.
          Difficult punctuation cases. - M., 1959 (co-authored).
          Questions of Russian spelling. A practical guide. - M., 1962.
          Rosenthal D.E. Handbook of spelling and literary editing. For print workers. - M .: Book, 1967.
          Spelling and punctuation. Rules and exercises. Tutorial. - M., 1970 (co-authored).
          Editing: Buchchina B.Z., Kalakutskaya L.P., Cheltsova L.K. Experience in the dictionary-reference: Together and separately. - M., 1972.
          Rosenthal D.E. Faithful friend of the teacher-writer // Russian language at school. - 1975. - No. 3. - S. 90.
          Rosenthal D. E. Practical stylistics of the Russian language: Textbook for universities. - Ed. 4th, rev. - M .: Higher school., 1977 .-- 316 p.
          Rosenthal D. E. Management in the Russian language: Dictionary. For print workers. - M .: Book, 1981. - 207 p.
          Rosenthal D. E. Punctuation Reference: For print workers. - M .: Book, 1984. - 272 p.
          Rosenthal D. E. Uppercase or lowercase? The experience of the reference dictionary / Ed. ed. L.K. Cheltsova. - M .: Rus. lang., 1984. - 328 p.
          Rozental D.E., Telenkova M. A. Dictionary of difficulties of the Russian language: Ok. 30 words. - 000rd ed., Ext. - M .: Rus. lang., 3. - 1984 p.
          Rosenthal D. E. Collection of exercises in the Russian language for preparatory departments of universities: Textbook. manual for trainees. Dep. universities. - 2nd ed., Stereotype. - M .: Higher school., 1989 .-- 224 p. ISBN 5-06-000198-9
          Rosenthal D. E. Russian: A manual for applicants to universities. - 5th ed. - M.: Publishing House of Moscow State University, 1994 .-- 368 p. ISBN 5-211-03331-0
          Rozental D.E., Golub I.B., Telenkova M.A. Modern Russian language: Textbook. - 2nd ed. - M.: Intern. Relations, 1994. - 560 p. ISBN 5-7133-0787-5

          This is called distribute and not reflect.

          This is probably the same "Soviet experience"

          British first-graders, who are crossing the threshold of the school for the first time, immediately encounter an avalanche of dangerous information about "gender diversity" and gender reassignment opportunities. This was written by Susan Matthews, Honorary Senior Researcher at Rowampton University of London, in the book "The Invention of Transgender Children and Adolescents." The Telegraph newspaper notes: such as Mrs. Matthews were in Britain in the minority. It is not customary to talk publicly about the dangers of school lessons devoted to the propaganda of "choice" of sex in the country - "activists have done everything so that critical discussions on this subject are hushed up." This is recognized by the psychiatrist consultant of one of the funds under the British Ministry of Health, Dr. David Bell. However, it was the “manuals” of the National Health Service that formed the basis of curricula for elementary schools that “do not protect children and conflict with the law,” Matthews is convinced. She cites excerpts from the textbook “May I tell you about gender diversity?”, Published for schoolchildren labeled “7+”. The narrative is conducted on behalf of a 12-year-old child named Keith, "who undergoes transformation from girl to boy" through the use of hormonal drugs that are puberty blockers. On his behalf, the compilers of the textbook assure that such "therapy" is completely incorrigible. Mutius wrote the book in collaboration with Stephanie Davis-Arai, who, together with a group of caring parents, is trying to counter the “transgender lobby”.
          1. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 11: 27 New
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            Eugene, of the 3 names indicated, two are physics and mathematics. Maybe the search for the remaining one should have been sent along the same path? Then Rosenthal would have found a physicist, not a linguist.
            1. Cruorvult 3 October 2019 12: 24 New
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              Oga, moreover, they have been published since the 30-60s, but then the unworthy BBS woke up.
              1. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 12: 49 New
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                Was my message about the accuracy of the information? No. Moreover, I consider it unreliable and I am sure that you will not find it in the BBS archive. My message was about your approach to analyzing the information provided.
                1. Cruorvult 3 October 2019 12: 57 New
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                  The criticism is objective, but by the way, you get into the same hole.

                  Rosenthal, Joseph Leonidovich
                  The main works are in the field of high energy physics. The conclusion about the influence of photon fields during the passage of cosmic particles was made by him before the discovery of background relic radiation. He performed work on the study of the hydrodynamic theory of multiple particle production and the interpretation of quark-gluon plasma based on it. Received the most important characteristics of multiple processes: the distribution of the values ​​of the transverse momentum and the limitedness of its average value, an exceptionally weak dependence of the transverse momentum on the collision energy.

                  Probably they’re introducing directly from the first class, but starting with “Rosenthal I. L. The Synergetics of the Universe and the Problem of Contact with Extraterrestrial Civilizations”.

                  Although a little interested, I know that in high school they choose several in-depth subjects, maybe there they relate to it, but there is no way the Soviet system.
                  1. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 14: 30 New
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                    Eugene, well, why distort about studying from the first class and extraterrestrial civilizations?
                    Have you not found in Rosenthal the physicist works that can complement the school course in particle physics in high school? By the way, I do not know how things are in English schools with the study of Russian as a foreign language. After all, the Rosenthal linguist could be useful. Why not?
                    With the work of Landau, I just met the school teacher and met.
                    1. Cruorvult 3 October 2019 14: 50 New
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                      Quite. Only Rosenthal the physicist has no textbooks and could not translate them. And the fact that they can use his work in training, well, quite. But where does the "Soviet program" have to do with it? We are passing the Pythagorean theorem, but this does not mean that we use ancient Greek training programs.

                      The sad thing is that people with "the best Soviet education" so easily absorb Gogno with BBS.

                      Well, in the WB, physics and mathematics are not compulsory subjects for the exam in high school, there is nothing close to Soviet programs there.
                      1. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 16: 45 New
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                        But where does the "Soviet program" have to do with it?

                        Are we talking about the Soviet program?
                        I consider it unreliable and I am sure that you will not find it in the BBS archive

                        I thought we had it already)
                        http://www.mythdetector.ge/en/myth/disinformation-great-britain-allegedly-moving-soviet-education-system
                        The sad thing is that people with the "best Soviet education" so easily suck in Gogno with BBS

                        Gullibility is not related to education at all.
                        I think you can round off on this topic
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          Have history and social studies textbooks been translated as well?
    2. Amurets 3 October 2019 07: 37 New
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      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      I read somewhere recently that Great Britain switched to the Soviet school system.

      And they canceled the flogging of children in schools. "Teenagers felt like school owners and began to violate class discipline with impunity. In 2011, teachers were still allowed to physically prevent the actions of adolescents if they threatened public order.
      “If a parent now hears at school:“ Sorry, we have no right to use physical force on students, ”then this school is not right. Just not right. The rules of the game have changed, ”the minister said. https://topwar.ru/25466-angliya-klassicheskaya-strana-telesnyh-nakazaniy.html
  • alekc75 3 October 2019 07: 18 New
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    Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
    The conclusions of the NATO Analytical Note on Education in the USSR (1959) contain the following thoughts:
    “States that are independently competing with the USSR are wasting their strength and resources in attempts that are doomed to failure. If it is impossible to constantly invent methods that are superior to the methods of the USSR, it’s worth seriously thinking about borrowing and adapting Soviet methods. ”

    I read somewhere recently that Great Britain switched to the Soviet school system. Well, maybe not all schools, but nonetheless.
    What to do

    All ministers led by the guarantor and others who have led the country since 1991 have to be brought to trial under the article "Mass genocide of their people." And then shoot.

    preferably 2 times
  • Cruorvult 3 October 2019 07: 18 New
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    The article is superficial, you cannot go far on emotions alone. The author's nostalgia for his childhood.
    Comparison of textbooks no. No software comparison. In what period does the author want to return, to the Stalin class with the division of classes into boys / girls, to the Khrushchev class, when a student needed a work record of up to 2 years to enter a university? Different times pose different problems and challenges.

    Well, people with the best Soviet education fell in love with the USSR, and then they charged water on TVs.
    1. carstorm 11 3 October 2019 07: 37 New
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      this is an attempt in your own words to retell the film from the Future) why is this nostalgia about what you don’t remember? I went to school in the union and studied according to the system of which the author speaks. my child at 8 years old now knows and knows more than I do in class 4. he watches films and cartoons in English on his own. I have no idea what kind of degradation is being said. some manifesto with appeals do not understand why. you do not like the exam? and you tried to write it yourself? The site has long turned into a political circle for people of certain views, I understand. but at least it’s not worth getting into school? leave the children alone. I’m telling you as the father of one schoolboy and the second in a couple of years. well don't.
      1. rocket757 3 October 2019 08: 25 New
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        If you are preparing your schoolboy there ... in short, THERE, then what matters to you, before we want HERE.
        1. carstorm 11 3 October 2019 08: 28 New
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          where to go? ) I'm just saying that you do not need to mix everything in one pile.
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            ALL is that?
            Education separately, education in the other direction?
            This, I believe, is not the right mix?
            1. carstorm 11 3 October 2019 09: 01 New
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              problems in education and politics do not need to be mixed. ideology and so on. I only about it
              1. rocket757 3 October 2019 09: 06 New
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                Not about politics, just the basics of cultural education, the rules of a normal "hostel".
                In short, what is good and what is bad.
                If there will be a fruitful influence on the young creature from several sides, the result should be much better.
      2. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 11: 30 New
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        my child at 8 years old now knows and knows more than I do in class 4

        Dmitry, what does your child know and know, what didn’t you know or didn’t know?
    2. Sergej1972 3 October 2019 10: 28 New
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      The division into male and female schools was only in the last, post-war years of Stalin's life and some time after his death. But, as far as I know, this was not practiced in rural areas.
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        Quote: Sergej1972
        The division into male and female schools was only in the last, post-war years of Stalin's life

        Yes, it is believed that thanks to this "imperial" school system, restored by Stalin yet during that terrible war, later we flew into space.



        Not all important points of our education are mentioned in this article.
        Here is another good video about modern education:

  • Mainbeam 3 October 2019 07: 32 New
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    In parallel, an article was published on the stagnation of the economy and industry in particular They say that Russians work poorly. Have you tried to pay them more?. And also conclusions, such as problems, are solved. So problems do not begin with this. Rather, of course, it all starts with us personally - it all depends on whether we personally do something or not. But do not confuse cause and effect. In short, it is necessary to solve problems in the wrong direction.

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      Quote: MainBeam
      In short, it is necessary to solve problems in the wrong direction.

      Yes, and TAKE IT TOGETHER TOGETHER! Unite .... by interest.
  • rocket757 3 October 2019 07: 40 New
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    The strength of the government rests on the ignorance of the people, and it knows this and therefore will always fight against enlightenment.

    It is beautiful and almost right! Only everything has several sides ... in the USSR and the cleaning lady (most) could draw a map of the world, Pushkin, Dumas, quote. to tell! But some, obligatory, for the normal, full-fledged development of a person's knowledge, gave / taught very truncated! A lot of knowledge, this is not an absolute, comprehensive development of the personality! And then personalities were not very keen to develop, close ranks were required! Not so good, and sometimes very bad!
    Although, to Soviet education, if something was missing, then it is not very much, moreover, the ISF man can develop it independently! Now how ... more is not enough than they give! It remains to pick up, correct ourselves, if we do not want to get a "tribe", which we then do not like.
    My opinion ... and then each parent decides, acts for himself!
    1. carstorm 11 3 October 2019 07: 49 New
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      And what's wrong with that? children now learn faster and perceive information better than us. we, as parents, must learn how to use it ourselves.
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        And what's wrong with that? children now learn faster and perceive information better than us. we, as parents, must learn how to use it ourselves.

        Everyone decides for himself .... the result is already visible! I often don't like him. when it becomes quite mass, see how it will appeal to those who now do not care or rejoice for such a service.
        Time is the best judge ... we’ll only experience the result personally, at the same time, all at once.
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          by itself. I don’t argue with that. we just as parents must also learn new things. children have changed compared to us.
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            we as parents must also learn new things. children have changed in comparison with us.

            Everything is correct. We learn, use and pass on EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE to the younger generation.
            Nuance, we, in addition to knowledge, pass on our experience, our vision to everything and everything ... in short, who like, this is a personal decision.
            I do not think it is right to exclude school from this process! Therefore, it is sharply against some innovations and the removal of many useful things .... again, personal opinion.
            We will correct it, but we really don’t want to “fight” with everything harmful that they try to impose in educational institutions ... when they are called SCHOOL!
            1. carstorm 11 3 October 2019 09: 02 New
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              Well, this is a discussion) and the approach is excellent. unlike the article.
              1. rocket757 3 October 2019 09: 19 New
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                I am not a retrograde, "inspired" by some kind of "one correct idea" ....
                Something like this - everything should be harmonious, multi-faceted! At the expense of languages, for example, in our family, tip-top, we will teach 3 more foreign languages ​​to Russian, here the school would have been better if it hadn’t interfered! But when the children “bring” from school, something harmful, caught on, it can be hard to fix it ... they, of course, “parrot” with us, but the team, the school, can put their own tar in our spoon, by no means, not a barrel of honey!
                It is clear that the teacher is not always at school, now, more often, the distributor of services! What is the direct fault of the STATE structures, departments of different ministries. THIS IS BAD! Society, parents have long had to worry about it and some other, school problems.
                1. Sergej1972 3 October 2019 10: 34 New
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                  It is good if the child succeeds in learning languages. But there are a lot of cases when nothing happens, and tutors do not help. At the same time, everything is fine in other subjects. Well, not all people have the ability to learn languages. All hope for improving electronic translation systems.)
                  1. rocket757 3 October 2019 11: 25 New
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                    Professional orientation, important business, humanitarian, techie, something else, the main thing is to have something in the future to develop. But I'm not talking about, it’s very important to have ... in short, it’s very good to explain, to teach the child what is good, what is bad! No matter how clever he is, if he is a complete self-lover, and if he puts everyone on the rest, this person will be unpleasant to EVERYONE! Yes, if it becomes GREATER than everyone else, our society will cease to be normal immediately.
      2. Mainbeam 3 October 2019 18: 14 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        children now learn faster and perceive information better than us

        In vain zamusunut. The thought is sound.

        Quote: carstorm 11
        And what's wrong with that?

        What's so bad? If the article is about school murders? Adults do not cope with their duties and believe that children are bad. But adults "do not learn" and lose control of the situation. Infantile teachers are not respected by young children. And who is to blame, except for adults?
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          Quote: MainBeam
          In vain zamusunut. The thought is sound.

          This "VO" here has long been minus not for thought but for ideological affiliation)
  • Million 3 October 2019 08: 12 New
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    On the radio, the population would be presented with what is acceptable to him: music without any restrictions.

    What we now hear on the radio. Moreover, it’s difficult to call the Russian stage even music.
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      For some reason, all our achievements in music and songs are realized abroad.
  • EvilLion 3 October 2019 08: 12 New
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    Constant stories in the media about beatings, violence, and killings in schools. Given the general degradation of society in schools, more and more mentally ill children. But there is no government on them. There is no effective legal protection from “difficult teenagers”. Police before 14 years (most often before 16) can do nothing at all.


    When exactly the same thing happened in Soviet schools, there was no Internet yet, although the scum that you had to pull out from your mother with forceps, but go find them then, and in Soviet times it was immeasurable.

    In general, the author of the next one is not even an alarmist, but one of those who specially wind themselves up by reading all kinds of nonsense on the Web for hours, and then pour out psychoses that everything is lost. It was as if the Soviet school had driven at least someone into the notion of a derivative, if he did not want to know anything about this derivative. The Bolsheviks made it possible for anyone who wanted this to study. No school will help those who do not want to study. The products of the “wonderful” Soviet education in the 80s were charging water in front of the television screens.
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      Quote: EvilLion
      The products of the “wonderful” Soviet education in the 80s were charging water in front of the television screens.

      You have already hesitated with this water. In my family, only an illiterate grandmother charged. Personally, I, looking at Kashpirovsky with Chumak, only twisted at the temple. fool
  • Tank hard 3 October 2019 08: 31 New
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    For a quarter century, Russian education has been killed in Russia. Obviously, the "reforms" have reached their point - the Russian school is in agony.

    What kind of "Russian education" is the author talking about? After 1917, it was Soviet, after 1991, it was Russian ... request
    1. Sunstorm 4 October 2019 19: 44 New
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      Quote: Tank Hard
      What kind of "Russian education" is the author talking about? After 1917, it was Soviet, after 1991, it was Russian ...

      the author apparently like me merged into a single whole and the Soviet and Russian and Russian ... I can not blame him for this because he himself is guilty)

      Russia has always stood up
      At all times and ages
      Wherever the wind of change blows
      And no matter how bad her deeds

      They tried to defeat her more than once
      But there is no force that will overcome it
      How to raise a Phoenix bird from the ashes
      The Rusich heroes and gods helped her!

      And no matter how hard they try to conquer it
      And sticks were inserted into her wheels
      Russia, like a troika, just rushing into the distance
      From the ashes, like a Phoenix bird, being born!
      (Natalya Kuldeeva)
  • BAI
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    1. You can shake the air as much as you like, but the Bologna system will not be canceled. This is one of the conditions for joining the Council of Europe, for which the Russian Federation has fought hard for a long time and is now paying a lot of money to stay there. (And about the payment of "debts" somehow fell silent and no longer remember - all paid, despite the promise not to pay).
    2. The author did not notice the degradation of the pedagogical corps.
    3. The golden words "we do not need competent developers, we need competent consumers" have not been canceled either.
    The degradation of Russian education will continue, especially since the children of those in power have the opportunity to study abroad or in elite private schools.
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 09: 30 New
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    Quote: CruorVult
    Well, people with the best Soviet education fell in love with the USSR, and then they charged water on TVs.

    Exactly! It was a better education ... What in the presence of people who have it, the USSR fell apart without a single shot. Ah, were they tricked? People with better education tricked? Ha ha!
    1. frog 3 October 2019 11: 19 New
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      Well, with the people of his own, the USSR collapsed without a single shot.

      So this ..... Just everything ...... Just the leaders of it did a lot so that "people with a better education" would just not give a damn about it. And, by the way, there were a lot of questions about the "best in the world". Otherwise, why did they conduct an experiment with Novoisb? I'm talking about the well-known branch of the USSR Academy of Sciences ..... Which ended just as it should have. At first - almost enchanting success, and then everything quickly returned to real Soviet standards.
    2. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 11: 55 New
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      Well, why slip into cheap manipulations? Call me a country without fortune-tellers, psychics, selling amulets, etc. Also the education system of these countries is to blame? Or is there no connection here?
    3. Vadim T. 3 October 2019 15: 55 New
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      Vyacheslav, from someone, but did not expect such a comment from you.
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        Do you want, Vadim, to say that I do not know what I am writing about? Do not know the problems of education?
    4. Sunstorm 4 October 2019 19: 48 New
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      Exactly! It was a better education ... What in the presence of people who have it, the USSR fell apart without a single shot. Ah, were they tricked? People with better education tricked? Ha ha!

      in the "terrible poorly educated RI" the people gave birth to Lenin and Stalin .. in the "perfectly formed totalitarian alliance" of Yeltsin and Gaidar ... I become more and more sweet every year
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 09: 34 New
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    Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
    All ministers led by the guarantor and others who have led the country since 1991 have to be brought to trial under the article "Mass genocide of their people." And then shoot.

    Wow, a call to violence against state leaders? That's cool!
    1. Cruorvult 3 October 2019 09: 54 New
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      So, those who came in 91, did not have this very Soviet education ?! Oh wow.
      Dude does not care that there is no moratorium on the death penalty in the article “Mass genocide of his people”. The regulators are anonymous.
  • Stas157 3 October 2019 09: 58 New
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    in the Leningrad Region, a schoolboy systematically beats classmates for several years in a row, and the school leadership and parents can do nothing about it.

    The child in the class also had a two-year-old bully who terrorized everyone in a row. My son, too, was afraid of him, psychologically, endured him. But then he overcame himself and severely beat him, so he was sent from the lessons to the medical office. The girls approached their son and said thanks for punishing the school terrorist. But they called me to the school for the teachers' council and brainwashed me. They frightened them by writing a statement to the police about the fact that they had strongly offended the bully. This is our school - you can keep the whole class in fear, but you can’t answer the bully anymore.
  • Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 October 2019 10: 07 New
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    I’m writing about the same thing myself, and I agree with the author on almost all points
    1. vvvjak 3 October 2019 12: 44 New
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      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      I’m writing about the same thing myself, and I agree with the author on almost all points

      But not me. In any case, if the conversation is about RUSSIAN education (as in the title of the article), and not Russian.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 3 October 2019 13: 32 New
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        Well, we still have pluralism, so you have every right :) And what is happening with education I see quite well - out of three children I have two students
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          You know what is happening with education, I also know, because not only children, schoolchildren (well, it’s true that one student is already a month old), but also the wife of the teacher (and even children with special needs) and parents worked all their lives as teachers, and he himself is such, only the truth is by education. Only I can express my opinion on Russian education since I live in Belarus and do not know about Russian. Although something tells me that there will be no fundamental difference between the Belarusian and Russian education. If you or VO readers are interested, we can discuss (just a lull at work).
  • Dedok 3 October 2019 10: 10 New
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    EVERYTHING is correct, +100500
    how to get out of this
  • military pensioner 3 October 2019 10: 16 New
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    Do you really not understand that the current rulers DO NOT NEED smart, educated children. After all, if they are smart, then sooner or later they will think about why, during the 20 years of the reign of “respected" leaders, their parents live worse and worse. Against the background of the fact that the friends and accomplices of the "respected" are gaining weight and gaining weight on public property, and their offspring, studying and living abroad, are boring more and more, the bureaucrats, who have bred like bed bugs in a shelter, drink the blood of their parents and hate those who contains that the servants of the people (as deputies and senators call themselves) live on 400000-1500000 rubles of salaries, and the people are taught how to live on 7000 rubles, eating macaroni. And when smart kids understand this and grow up, then it’s not enough for all of the above mentioned. Therefore, the policy of the current authorities is the DEBILIZATION of the whole country!
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      Therefore, the policy of the current authorities is the DEBILIZATION of the whole country!

      Therefore, you should be happy ... The level of education will drop to 14% as in the Republic of Ingushetia and there will be new Lenins and Stalins .... profit)
  • Verkhomnapule 3 October 2019 10: 51 New
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    necessary article, for a long time I’ve watched with tears in our eyes how our Soviet school is collapsing, and the schoolchildren have really become digital slaves, have forgotten how to think, analyze, look for something new for self-development. It is very painful and scary for our future! recourse
  • Antares 3 October 2019 11: 13 New
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    Education begins in the family from birth.
    Kindergarten / school / university / pr ..
    but basic is within the family.
    We were generally taken to school after a mini exam (math problems, logic on events, literature in the form of poems). We already knew how to read, retell, write before school ..
    But this is the Soviet period. Everything is strict there. And without money.
    Now capitalism, money and out of necessity.
    The experience of countries that have passed the capitalist past and present ..
    Does the author wish a school of the USSR under capitalism? Will not be. Because loot wins everything.
    But it’s too late to change the system. They didn’t come up with anything better than capitalism with a human face. (But this is not about us)
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 11: 21 New
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    I’ve been looking with tears in my eyes for a long time

    Less sob more to do! You can’t help with tears. Only damp!
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      Quote: kalibr
      Less sob more to do! You can’t help with tears. Only damp!

      Golden words, fun to hear from the author of advertising articles about "abroad" lol
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 11: 24 New
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    They frightened them by writing a statement to the police about the fact that they had strongly offended the bully.

    I had to bring a voice recorder with me. Correctly put questions to them and correctly answer them. Loud! Then let the director listen and say where you will go with this! They would see a person with a gray face, as after a conversation between Yagupop and Nushrok. For all yours, it would be USU! I did it more than once! Works great!
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      I had to bring a voice recorder with me.

      We recently had a case ... there was no heating in kindergartens and schools yet ... And then one father came to the kindergarten and made a video of how the children sleep at freezing temperatures ... and then he came straight to the meeting of the City Executive Committee ... morning heating was in all gardens and schools. (An example from Belarus, the city where my parents live) The conclusion is simple not to chew snot, but to take the liberty to go and fight the legal way. Well, or you can certainly expect the appearance of "leader of the people" (oh herd of a shepherd)
      Z.Y. you can of course start saying RB is a different world .. aha of course there is even a tax on the unemployed) and everything else, just like in Russia, is only poorer (
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    Personally, I, looking at Kashpirovsky with Chumak, only twisted at the temple.

    And my mother is a candidate of sciences, associate professor ... charged! There is a difference?
  • Alexey-74 3 October 2019 11: 29 New
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    That's right, the degradation of society is in the face, and it all starts from the school bench ... it's a shame to see your children in this society, you try to educate them, tell and show them as you used to in the USSR .... understanding and unwillingness to be like us. In addition, there is always a generational conflict and there’s no getting anywhere .... So sad conclusions can be made: the degradation of education on the face, I’m generally silent for discipline ...... But this is our future, the future of our Russia, so do it conclusions what awaits us ...........
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      you’re trying to educate them, tell and show them as you used to with the USSR ...

      You are busy with a worthless business) For them, “under the Union” sounds like for us it sounded “like under King Pea”.
      Do not impose on your children a longing for your past, they have their own life, their own country. When we leave already they will have to live here. Let love for you be better in their memory than these vague other people's memories)
  • Mikhail3 3 October 2019 11: 33 New
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    No way people will understand ... The only task that our authorities pursue in domestic politics determines all their actions relating to all the main directions of the country's movement. It should consider ALL the fundamental issues that arise in us through the prism of this task. What is this task? It is formulated simply, namely:
    LEGITIMIZATION OF CAPITALS
    Everything, absolutely and completely all the people who make up our power and the "elite" are thieves. Most of them, either with their own hands or by strangers, killed people who were robbed or who prevented them from stealing. But having stolen as much as possible, they are faced with the fact that Russian people don’t accept them as an “elite.” For every thinking person, I’m not talking about those who are not alien to the notions of honor and conscience, it’s absolutely clear that state building and the growth of the country under the leadership of thieves and bandits are impossible.
    The thief’s personality type is such that constructive activity with his hands and head is simply impossible! No matter what they do, no matter how hard they try, even completely sincerely, all their actions and undertakings will always end in collapse for people and the country as something creative. What we see around you, it seems that a lot is being built, it seems that there are also goods in bulk, and production seems to be growing, but ...
    Personally, I am alien to any revolutionary moods, and my conclusions are simply a statement of obvious things. Alas, in the case of school, our legitimizers do a simple thing. They try to educate people who will relate to the thief with admiration, and to the stolen with envy. And by the way, they succeed in this. So our school is a giant step towards the destruction of the country for the simple reason that people brought up in tolerance for theft and admiration for thieves, suddenly, do not want to work! They also want and will steal and kill like their idols! at the slightest opportunity! And if they are squeezed by the ticks of the "digital state" (how our government, which is beginning to understand what it has done) is going to do it, then they will work very poorly, and will never improve, develop.
    In the modern world, all this is a death sentence for both the country and the nation. Oh ...
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 11: 57 New
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    Well, why slip into cheap manipulations? Call me a country without fortune-tellers, psychics, selling amulets, etc. Also the education system of these countries is to blame? Or is there no connection here?

    Timur! There is no such country. But the USSR with its best education is not there either.
    1. Foul skeptic 3 October 2019 14: 55 New
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      Vyacheslav Olegovich, there is no such country, but there are manipulations (including from you) on the topic of charging water and the imaginary connection of this with education. What does not paint.
  • Mihail55 3 October 2019 11: 58 New
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    and not with a ballpoint pen, but with a pen.

    And we, in general, first trained with a pencil! He wore a cap for one year (as in the top picture). Then he took out from it a cool wide spring. The extension was ... we were brought on a horse fried pies with jam ... for FIVE cents !!! fellow
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 11: 59 New
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    but not understanding and unwillingness to be like us is visible.

    You see. Being determines consciousness, not your desires. You only harm your children, it turns out to meet the challenges of the time.
  • Andrey VOV 3 October 2019 12: 03 New
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    In order to return to the Soviet education system, it is necessary to completely change the Cabinet of Ministers and introduce the idea that the school was destroyed by these innovations ... they show him beautiful pictures of gifted children ... and the bulk of schools and students are really lower than the plinth
    1. Sunstorm 4 October 2019 20: 07 New
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      Quote: Andrey VOV
      In order to return to the Soviet education system, it is necessary to completely change the Cabinet of Ministers and introduce the idea that the school was destroyed by these innovations ... they show him beautiful pictures of gifted children ... and the bulk of schools and students are really lower than the plinth

      Sorry this is not the case. I have been working at school for many years. And not only in Russia but also in Belarus. You are very mistaken in your statements (regarding children and their level). But this "come back ....." why? You need to go forward, but there are problems in education, so why go back? Anyway, even in the Education of the USSR there were enough problems (otherwise the USSR would not have disappeared so easily). Or is it easier for you to believe that the highly moral and educated atheists from the USSR were deceived by three clowns in Belovezhskaya Pushcha?
      1. Andrey VOV 5 October 2019 12: 06 New
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        It was precisely the problems, but not the fundamental "horrors" as it is now, but I never had any illusions about Belovezhskaya Pushcha
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          Quote: Andrey VOV
          fundamental "horrors"

          I’m not familiar with the "fundamental horrors", although soon as early as 20 years at school. Hint at least where should I look for them? The notorious exam? The tyranny of the administration? New tutorials? Educational standard? Prison mode? Anarchy of teachers? Exactions in schools? Mobile phones?
          Sorry but bullshit.
          No, I do not deny the existence of problems) I argue that they do not have such a terrible "fundamental" nature as some argue.
          I want to remind you that generations are different from each other. this is especially clearly seen by teachers in schools ... when one parallel is strong and well-mannered, the other is weak and messy ... In the case of each particular child, many factors influence. So personally I am extremely amused by "EVERYTHING IS DISAPPEARED SOVIET EDUCATION IS NO MORE" since he has been gone for 30 years .... and there will never be more, You cannot enter the same water twice.
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    Yeah, I remember when Vasiliev was appointed Minister of Education, or was, they say a professional man came, right now everything will work out. At first I did something there, and then everything rolled back.
    1. Andrey VOV 3 October 2019 12: 25 New
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      Yes, it can’t, one Vasilieva breaks the SYSTEM ... with all her desire or unwillingness ..... a person of the system will not go against the SYSTEM, and if it does, the result is obvious in my opinion
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        take an interest, the fact is that they appointed her, announced the reform and ....... selected the tools for implementation, you will still smile, but there, it seems, the vile creature Fursenko is again responsible for everything ...
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          that one in football at one time nakulesil that the other in education = just the same talent they have to destroy and spoil
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  • bandabas 3 October 2019 12: 38 New
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    And there appeared the type of "corporate classes." Where they are trying to prepare simply performers for the oligarchs from the desk.
  • Alex66 3 October 2019 12: 45 New
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    Take Soviet methods, programs and textbooks, adapt them to the present. The Soviet school was the best in the world. Use this foundation to create a society of creators and creators, and not slaves of the "digital concentration camp", as it is now. It is also necessary to restore order and discipline in schools, to put an end to “tolerance” towards loafers, hooligans and juvenile delinquents. And the elephant will eat a wagon of apples? Yes, he will eat, but he will give him. Putin and Medvedev are building a society for the elect they don’t need literate people, the less educated the people, the smarter they will seem to Medvedev.
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      Putin and Medvedev are building a society for the elect they don’t need literate people, the less educated the people, the smarter they will seem to Medvedev.

      I conclude the ideal of RI with 14% of the literate .. oh no there was a revolution there .... It turns out that Medvedev with his own hands leads to a revolution ?? Or builds a society for the elite?) Somewhere your logic has broken)
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  • Vadim237 3 October 2019 12: 50 New
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    "What did we get at the exit? A complete breakdown of discipline and order at school. Depravity, permissiveness and the ability to take time off from school. Mate, smoking and drunkenness of teenagers. Older children beat younger children, curse obscenities, send teachers to" go in the woods. "Constant media stories about beatings, violence, and killings in schools. " All this was in the USSR - only the media were silent about it as well as about everything else.
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    "The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia. The total commercialization of Russian society and culture. Our country has become part of the Western world of the" golden calf "- a consumer society that leads to self-destruction and death of the entire planet and humanity." Again, Western ideology is to blame - or maybe it's the parents who blamed the hell on their children - and you don’t need to write about everyone, this does not happen everywhere and obviously not with everyone. "Consumer society" - The consumer society exists from the very beginning of the existence of mankind - it is impossible to consume something without creating something new, consumption is the main engine of progress - be it knowledge of goods, etc.
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      Consumer society has existed from the very beginning of human existence - it is impossible to consume something without creating something new, consumption is the main engine of progress - whether it is knowledge products, etc.

      For the Charter of any modern commercial organization, a clause containing the purpose of its creation is mandatory. And in this paragraph it is always written the same thing - making a profit. Not progress. Everything else is from the evil one. The highlighted area is generally perplexing.
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        No, just the same, everything is natural and understandable - without progress there will be no profit as it will stand — people will always strive for the best.
        1. Foul skeptic 4 October 2019 11: 06 New
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          I can only advise you to read Baudrillard on this topic.
          We have a different understanding of progress. In terms of the importance of the introduced innovations for society, the progress curve in the 21st century dropped to the level of the 17th century (according to Hübner). A society of the 4 accepted components of progress (social, material, spiritual and scientific) is occupied only with material, replacing in it the concept of “innovation as a useful innovation” with the concept of “innovation as an improvement in economic efficiency” (just like in Schumpeter's theory).
          there will be no progress without progress

          Why's that? There is no profit when expenses are higher than income. the rest is water. Example. Growing vegetables in open ground and in a hydroponic farm. The second method compared to the first is progress. But its main advantages are just not of an economic nature (social and environmental). But in economic terms, on a global scale, it is less profitable than the open ground of warm countries, a cheap slave. strength and distribution throughout the rest of the world. And therefore, all its other advantages are not immediately needed by anyone.
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    The fundamental reason for the destruction of the Russian school is the dominance of a liberal, pro-Western ideology in Russia. Total commercialization of Russian society and culture. Our country has become part of the Western world of the "golden calf" - a consumer society that leads to self-destruction and destruction of the entire planet and humanity
    [quote] [/ quote] Well, and where do the textbooks come about. And that in our time there were absolutely no untrained students. Few in the classes were laughing at the amazing knowledge of some in Geography. The fact that there was no Internet. That would be easier to try to remember everything . And now, they say. why learn, on the Internet you can see. And most importantly, you won’t turn back the clock. Something will come of it. Throughout life, the older generation reproached the young for recklessness, immorality, irresponsibility, etc.
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    So you wrote it, Timur, and what has changed? Nothing! Do you think so. Well ... because yes, there is manipulation, it is carried out professionally and for a lot of money, but against scrap, there is no reception. Continuation of the saying do not write to me ... "other scrap" is absent in principle. And the connection is not imaginary, but direct. In Dagestan they say, where there are no good youth, there were no good old people!
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    Throughout life, the older generation reproached the young for recklessness, immorality, irresponsibility, etc.
    Reply

    Since the days of Dr. Egypt. There are texts!
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 17: 48 New
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    Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)

    I just did a lot to improve the education of our children in the USSR and in Russia.
    1. Tank hard 3 October 2019 19: 59 New
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      I just did a lot to improve the education of our children in the USSR and in Russia

      Perhaps, but I do not know these matters, but I read your articles here ... request
  • kalibr 3 October 2019 18: 00 New
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    Although ... in the USSR, almost all were literate, but go and you bought beautiful candy wrappers and jeans ...

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    Many have already spoken out here. I will express myself too. More precisely, let me remind you
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      Fursenko forgot about Soviet internationalism, which eventually destroyed the USSR .. and also planted in schools and in the end ... remember Soviet films, for example, about England? Now tell me where did Londongrad come from?) Is it not from “Mary Popins?” .... And if you compare American and Soviet cinema, the question is immediately ... why did the Americans blame the advice for everything .. and the Reds .. and ours? "looked at the Trust which burst, Hearts of Three .. films with Goiko Mitich" .... Internationalism in education is definitely one of the reasons for the collapse of the USSR ..
  • Shelest2000 3 October 2019 18: 32 New
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    And I’ll also remind you of this. But the point is not in them, but in the state system that is known who created it and for what purpose. And with whom....
    1. Shelest2000 3 October 2019 18: 34 New
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      Here is another character. Do not forget about them, about their goals and methods.
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    Russia occupied the 3rd place in the world ranking in terms of education.

    Then, “reformers” and “optimizers” —destructors — reached the Russian school.

    This is a real diversion, deliberate wrecking! And all this: who pushed it all, introduced, hanging noodles on the ears of a new brilliant prospect among civilized nations, there are names, surnames and positions and need to make them public! The people should know their heroes! Maybe at least in this way it will be possible to interfere with something of this dishonesty to finish off our education!
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    Previously, the beautiful was far away, but now the terrible present. And officials from the Ministry of Education are on trial for treason.
    1. Shelest2000 4 October 2019 16: 45 New
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      Well, they just fulfill the assigned tasks. Qualitatively and well perform. And who sets these tasks for them is also well known. These faces do not leave the screens.