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Turkey creates a quasi-state in Syria and asks him to finance

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Turkey has no choice but to act alone, given that "too little progress" has been made in creating a "safe zone" in northeastern Syria, President of the Republic Rajep Tayyip Erdogan said on Tuesday. The Turkish leader is going to create an 480 km depth zone along the 30-kilometer border of the border.




Ankara agreed with Washington to create a "security zone", and in fact - a "quasi-state" in the territory belonging to Syria. According to the Turkish plan, up to 2's of millions of Syrian refugees will be placed in an area that will be "cleared" of the Syrian Kurdish militia YPG, which Ankara considers a terrorist organization.

Having formed a controlled zone in the north of Syria, Ankara has repeatedly warned of unilateral military operations.

We have not achieved any of our desired results east of the Euphrates. Turkey can no longer lose a single day. We have no choice but to act on our own.

- Erdogan said at the opening ceremony of the parliament in Ankara.

We plan to place two million people in the safe areas we will create. We have calculated the costs and will make efforts to improve the situation. Turkey will begin to take steps as soon as the region is saved from the invasion of terror.


While Turkish diplomats, analysts, and opposition forces say Ankara does not want to anger Washington with a military invasion as NATO allies try to re-establish strained ties. The White House is opposed to this step, as it will affect the interests of US-friendly Kurds. At the same time, Erdogan’s comments seem to put a new obstacle in the relations between the two countries and are a clear sign of the next changes in the region.

In his speech, the Turkish president added that Ankara intends to hold a “meeting of international donors” to receive funding for its plans in the area, which, he said, will stretch from the Euphrates River in Syria east to the Iraqi border.

Erdogan has repeatedly called on the Turkish allies to provide financial support to the project. In particular, he mentioned this in his speech to the UN last month. However, Reuters believes it is unlikely that Ankara will receive money for a program that will resettle people hundreds of kilometers from their homes and change the demographic situation in northeast Syria.
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  1. stalki
    stalki 1 October 2019 20: 30
    +4
    They wanted to make a buffer. And then, with this tune, they dream of creating a population loyal to their loved ones. Huge plans. It smells like an imperial spirit.
    1. Honest Citizen
      Honest Citizen 1 October 2019 20: 34
      -13
      Interestingly, did they take into account Russia's interests? And then the S-400 can "sleep through" some kind of attack ...
      Well, purely so, for prevention ...
      1. maxim947
        maxim947 1 October 2019 20: 39
        +2
        .
        ..added that Ankara intends to hold a “meeting of international donors”

        Only without us.
        Syria, Iraq, Libya-all tear to pieces ..
        1. Errr
          Errr 2 October 2019 06: 13
          +1
          In geopolitical terms, the division of the Turkish and Syrian parts of Kurdistan by the strip of settlement of the Syrian Arabs is extremely beneficial not only to Ankara, but also to Damascus. It is this wedging that is a serious obstacle to the “splitting off” of parts of Turkey and Syria, inhabited by Kurds, from the aforementioned states. Only here I am humanly sorry for the very Arabs whom the Turkish authorities were going to place between a rock and a hard place.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 2 October 2019 08: 26
            0
            Only here I am humanly sorry for the very Arabs whom the Turkish authorities were going to put between a rock and a hard place

            In my opinion, these themselves chose their fate. Well they come from irreconcilable oppositionists to the "bloody regime"
            1. Errr
              Errr 2 October 2019 09: 55
              +1
              I think that the "irreconcilable" have let go of their beards and let the blood flow to all those who disagree with them. The overwhelming majority of the most ordinary poor fellows fled to a foreign land, left without homes, jobs and hope for a bright future.
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 2 October 2019 15: 10
                0
                God will take him, the Turks actually actively support all kinds of pro-Turkish organizations. Well, if we are talking about ordinary people, then perhaps life in the territories under the Turkish protectorate is far from the worst that could wait for them.
                1. Errr
                  Errr 2 October 2019 19: 34
                  0
                  The Turkish government most naturally supports in Syria only ethnic Turks - Turkoman. If the Syrian refugees in Turkey for one reason or another decide to populate the territories they offer, then, as they say, they are holding the flag. This will be their deliberate choice, but after this they will most likely no longer have the way back to Turkey. Will Ankara somehow cover them after that? Most likely yes, but only if there is no objection from Damascus. But in this whole situation, I don’t understand what this is. If you look at the map of the settlement of the Kurds (see below),
                  we will see a large area of ​​pink on it. This is the territory of distribution of Kurmanji - the most common of the Kurdish languages. It is the speakers of this dialect that live mainly in Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. Moreover, more than half of them live in Turkey. The mutual understanding of Kurds speaking Kurmanji with native speakers of other languages ​​of the Kurdish subgroup - Sorani, Zazaki, Gorani and others - was lost due to significant differences in their morphology with similar root composition and phonetics. Those. with a great deal of certainty, we can assume that the very united Kurdistan, which has already been talked about and written about so much, is just one large area on the geographic map above, which pinks the adjacent territories of Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria and no more Togo. And I don’t understand why this whole garden with security zones is needed if, to cut off the main (Turkish) part of Kurdistan from its rather small parts in neighboring countries, it would be quite possible to get along with just a well-organized border cordon throughout the state border in places of compact Kurdish residence population.
                  1. Oquzyurd
                    Oquzyurd 2 October 2019 20: 10
                    +3
                    As far back as 2016, 200 km of concrete fence was built (out of 900 km of the border with Syria) and the process continues to this day. But there is a long mountain zone in which you can’t build fences. Anyway, the fence is not enough if there is no stable country behind the fence, and there will be armed bandits. Naturally, after peace in Syria, these fences will be the underlined border between the two countries.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7W8QDoWIbc
                  2. alexmach
                    alexmach 2 October 2019 22: 30
                    0
                    And I don’t understand why this whole garden with security zones is needed if, to cut off the main (Turkish) part of Kurdistan from its rather small parts in neighboring countries, it would be quite possible to get along with just a well-organized border cordon throughout the state border in areas of compact Kurdish residence population.


                    Well no, I do not agree. Border control is one thing, but taking physical part of the range of residence under physical control, especially in countries plunged into chaos, is quite another. The rotor, in my opinion, is much more reliable.
      2. GibSoN
        GibSoN 1 October 2019 22: 19
        -6
        Interestingly, did they take into account the interests of Russia?
        You can in more detail like that, well, about the interests of Russia? Well, except for those whose everyone knows? And that’s how it goes .. the hour is not even, they will announce a general mobilization .. well, to protect interests then ..
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 2 October 2019 00: 20
        -4
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        Interestingly, did they take into account Russia's interests? And then the S-400 can "sleep through" some kind of attack ...
        Well, purely so, for prevention ...

        There are some fermenting patriots, they will zaminusut you)))
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 1 October 2019 21: 01
      +3
      Turkey creates a quasi-state in Syria and asks him to finance

      The Turkish leader is going to create a zone with a depth of 480 km along the 30-kilometer border of the border.

      Do you think Erdogan harnessed for Idlib for so many years? Damascus will not take the opposition, and there will be no living with Assad or Kurds, it’s time for Turkey to arrange a piece of Syrian pie for itself before Assad returns this piece. It may be too late. But the Americans will still deceive Erdogan, they need Kurdistan from Erbil to the Mediterranean Sea through Idlib. So the game is just beginning with the Kurds at Erdogan.
    3. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 22: 03
      +15
      The original introduction contains a very intelligible speech by Erdogan about the integrity of the territories of Syria, and how Turkey intends to ensure that the borders of Syria do not change, since a single and whole Syria is beneficial for neighboring countries, especially for Turkey. But, here the authors missed this part of the speech, not translated. Question why?
      1. Julius Caesar
        Julius Caesar 1 October 2019 23: 02
        +1
        Turkey benefits from a unified and indivisible Syria in the context of the Kurdish Rojava.
        In the context of Idlib, everything is not so clear: Turkey is not interested in the emergence of a quasi-state in Idlib, while most of Idlib is controlled by al-Nusra, and it is even more uninteresting to let Assad into Idlib.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 23: 33
          +5
          Russia, Iran and Turkey are working on the creation of the Constitutional Council. It reflects the participants from the Syrian authorities to the opposition (without pro-American Kurds). And everything is provided for within the framework of this council, they will agree, you will see, after that, Idlib without war, other Syrian territories will also be submit to the Syrian authorities. The question of time, since the 8 year war created too many problems. The main thing is the intentions that Syria should be whole and not divisible. It should be borne in mind that of the external players who are in one way or another in Syria, not one of them do not have a direct land border with Syria, except for Turkey. And this border is 900 km long. Turkey is simply obliged to protect itself (until stability is established in Syria) to relieve refugee pressure from the shoulders (inside the country of the discontent of part of the population and the opposition’s game on this ) and physically protect the country from the sortie of already well-armed (thanks to the USA) Kurdish detachments. A whole and stable Syria is beneficial for Turkey, especially since after the peace in Syria, in any case, the most Turkey will gain a big win in the economic plan. This will be during the restoration of Syria, as Turkey is the closest country that has a huge construction industry, from the production of all building materials to countless construction companies. Even any construction company from around the world that Syria is invited to restoration of the country, they will also order all the materials from Turkey, since distance, price and quality will play a major role.
    4. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 2 October 2019 00: 27
      0
      Plans, plans, and the money they drew apart themselves, and implement it yourself, apparently that kind of answers followed, so Erdogan was sad.
    5. Grits
      Grits 2 October 2019 01: 01
      +3
      Quote: stalki
      It smells like an imperial spirit.

      And what prevents us from smelling imperial spirit? Cowardice interferes. You need to learn from Erdogashka how to defend national interests, how to protect loyal citizens on foreign territory, how to wet enemies on the border. And all this despite the rejection of the powers that be.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 2 October 2019 03: 34
        0
        We also smell of imperial spirit. But in a different way. wassat From all over the former Union, and not only the Union, migrant workers sweep the streets and sit in bazaars.
    6. YOUR
      YOUR 2 October 2019 03: 42
      -4
      And we - they forgot the downed plane, the militants vacationing in the resorts of Antalya, including during the Chechen companies, the S-400 and still advertised the Su-57.
      I do not understand such a friendship.
      1. dik-nsk
        dik-nsk 2 October 2019 04: 49
        +3
        and you tell it to the hundreds of our fellow citizens hanging out at these resorts, personally my friends immediately said after a downed plane - they didn’t take a foot more than a turret, and they keep their word .. otherwise they love us - Putin is to blame for everything, but how about your faces - so this is a mirror ..
    7. Civil
      Civil 2 October 2019 07: 34
      -1
      In short, it is better for the Syrians to live apart. How to impose your crazy ideas on each other with a war.
    8. alexmach
      alexmach 2 October 2019 08: 24
      0
      Huge plans. It smells like imperial spirit

      Well done Turks. They understand their interests and defend them, have all the possibilities for this. It was clear that they would become one of the main beneficiaries of the war in Syria.
  2. Tusv
    Tusv 1 October 2019 20: 33
    0
    which, he said, will stretch from the Euphrates River in Syria east to the Iraqi border.

    Eco Sultanenk swung at the oil fields that control the United States. Lip no fool. But! What Colonel Trump will say about such impudence. I’m looking forward to that negative
  3. Shahno
    Shahno 1 October 2019 20: 36
    0
    Quote: stalki
    They wanted to make a buffer. And then, with this tune, they dream of creating a population loyal to their loved ones. Huge plans. It smells like an imperial spirit.

    Quote: stalki
    They wanted to make a buffer. And then, with this tune, they dream of creating a population loyal to their loved ones. Huge plans. It smells like an imperial spirit.

    Are there many Russian speakers in Turkey?
    And what is their ethnic connection with the Russian state.
    Politics, but now it is necessary .... But the Turks will remain Turks. Not?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 1 October 2019 20: 58
      +2
      Quote: Shahno
      But the Turks will remain Turks. No?

      There is one familiar Turk, he is engaged in the production of confectionery in Russia, Turkish delight, baklava, mebrum, halva is different - everything is very tasty! But it is clear that it is difficult for him alone to steer the whole economy, and so they asked him:
      “Why don’t you take a Turk to your aid?”
      And he replies:
      - No need, wrap it to the skin, it’s better I myself little by little! wassat
  4. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 1 October 2019 20: 38
    +4
    The Americans agree on a "security zone" of 5 km., Russia and Iran agree on 15 km, and Edik wants 30 km. (According to some sources, 40 km.) to pacify Hayat-Tahrir ash Sham and Nusrovtsy, their pacification will be carried out by the forces of the SAA and the Russian Aerospace Forces, as a result of which Edik stupidly strengthens his border with no chance of creating some kind of quasi state. Will not have time.
    1. stalki
      stalki 1 October 2019 20: 47
      0
      Edik stupidly will strengthen his border without a chance to create some kind of quasi state. Not in time.
      I would like to hope, but you have to keep your ears open with Edik. In this region, taking into account the national traditions of the East, the main rule is "who did not have time, is late."
    2. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 1 October 2019 22: 17
      +2
      And what would these 40 km into Turkey not be a buffer? This haircut 2 cm in depth will not work, and from the state border deep into your state, a buffer of 40 km can easily be made.
  5. Sergey39
    Sergey39 1 October 2019 20: 41
    0
    Let these two million "people" take them to Turkey. Just right for them.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 October 2019 20: 44
    +1
    And it is not for nothing that they muddied such a project, "The Magnificent Century" ... About the greatness of the Ottoman Empire. They broadcast to the population about the past greatness. And like it would be nice again ... But the Turks then had advanced military equipment and army organization. And now - the state is not very large and not very united. And in hostilities, except for a dastardly blow in the back of our drying, not very successful. The Kurds showed them more than once where the "fifth corner" was. Maybe they shouldn't puff out their cheeks so much?
    1. stalki
      stalki 1 October 2019 20: 56
      +2
      But the Turks then had advanced military equipment and army organization. And now - the state is not very large and not too single.
      Do not underestimate them, they still have the largest army in Europe. At least they cling to this "opera".
  7. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 1 October 2019 20: 45
    +2
    The Turks, in their repertoire, decided to expand their territory at the expense of Syria, Northern Cyprus, apparently they are few.
  8. Shahno
    Shahno 1 October 2019 20: 53
    -2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    And it is not for nothing that they muddied such a project, "The Magnificent Century" ... About the greatness of the Ottoman Empire. They broadcast to the population about the past greatness. And like it would be nice again ... But the Turks then had advanced military equipment and army organization. And now - the state is not very large and not very united. And in hostilities, except for a dastardly blow in the back of our drying, not very successful. The Kurds showed them more than once where the "fifth corner" was. Maybe they shouldn't puff out their cheeks so much?

    Well, we are studying.
    They just think. Have you all learned? laughing
    Or something is forgotten.
    Ah, Turks. Where were you when we used this principle ... For the first time in the time of the second Temple. But everyone strives.
  9. Shahno
    Shahno 1 October 2019 21: 00
    -2
    Quote: stalki
    But the Turks then had advanced military equipment and army organization. And now - the state is not very large and not too single.
    Do not underestimate them, they still have the largest army in Europe. At least they cling to this "opera".

    Well, they think so that the quantity decides Until they clash with us. yes
  10. da Vinci
    da Vinci 1 October 2019 21: 15
    0
    "Russian and Turk - friendship forever". True, I don't remember a single union of Russia with Turkey. request Tomatoes at a resort in Antalya are somehow finely chopped. To strengthen friendship, it is necessary to organize the production of Sarmatians together with the Turks. good
    1. Loess
      Loess 1 October 2019 21: 39
      +5
      Quote: da Vinci
      True, I do not remember a single alliance between Russia and Turkey.

      The end of the eighteenth century. Against France.
      1. da Vinci
        da Vinci 1 October 2019 22: 22
        0
        And what did Turkey and France do in Russia in the 19th century?
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 1 October 2019 21: 51
      +3
      Quote: da Vinci
      True, I do not remember a single alliance between Russia and Turkey

      Ushak Pasha’s campaign (as Fyodor Fedorovich was called in the Ottoman Empire) to Corfu, where Admiral Makarov recently visited with great fanfare. The Turks were an auxiliary fleet. And yes they were allies. Today is the second time. How long? Yes, even to infinity. As any oriental yet profitable, will comply. As soon as they receive Felik's strength in themselves, they will go to receive from the neck from Russia. Well, not educated zhezh, like everyone else in NATO laughing
      1. da Vinci
        da Vinci 1 October 2019 22: 24
        -1
        I doubt that Turkey will receive a neck from Russia in the 21st century. Rather, they will not buy tomatoes. tongue
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 1 October 2019 23: 05
          0
          Quote: da Vinci
          Rather, they will not buy tomatoes

          Well I do not know. The tomato war is for the layman. Turkey fully agrees to "plunder" from the Russian Federation. She is not threatened by anything, except for economic benefits. Until ... We will not declare the "tomato war".
          Damn "Russo Turisto, the face of morality" does not rest on their beaches - this is a quarter of the Turkish economy from end to end. And there we will look at the behavior hi
          By the way, the Egyptians bought Ateev-2500 much more. So Russo Turisto rule
          1. protoss
            protoss 2 October 2019 10: 18
            +1
            Damn "Russo Turisto, the face of morality" does not rest on their beaches - this is a quarter of the Turkish economy

            all tourism is about 6 percent of the economy, and tourist Russo is 18 percent of the total number of tourists, and most of the bags are traveling without money in your wallet, because all inclusive.
            so our tourists are about 1% of the Turkish economy, and then in a jump.
  11. Well done
    Well done 1 October 2019 21: 15
    +1
    Erdogan has Napoleonic plans for a long time. There’s nothing to be surprised at.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 1 October 2019 21: 34
      0
      Quote: Welldone
      Erdogan has Napoleonic plans for a long time. There’s nothing to be surprised at.

      So after such a "brilliant" saying
      Turkey has no choice but to act alone ...
      it's bigger than napoleon winked
      Munchausen. "I led a detachment of dragoons through the bog. But my horse stumbled and we began to sink. The situation was desperate. We had to choose one of two things: to die or somehow be saved. Well, what did you choose?" ― Guess wink .
  12. Terenin
    Terenin 1 October 2019 21: 15
    0
    Erdogan: We plan to place two million people in the safe areas that we will create.

    But, this is the result of some kind of activity! Maybe I don’t understand something. request Explain pzhl, who in the subject, from where the Turks want to drive these, namely two belay million people?
    1. Oquzyurd
      Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 21: 55
      +8
      In Turkey, there are 3.6 million Syrian refugees who fled to save their lives and from relatives, from bombing and from different bearded people. The Turks want to return these refugees to Syria, at least 2 million of them. For 8 years, the Syrians have been in Turkey, and the Turks spent on their maintenance is $ 40 billion over this time. For many countries this would not be a burden, but the Turks are also very economically annoyed ... But where to return these refugees if many have lost everything and their houses have been destroyed and they don’t have any property . Just having built something for them, they can return it to Syria. The question is where to build it, and where they will be safe in the future ..... If you look at the map, the border of Syria and Turkey, the answer is already obvious. That's what the Turks want to convey to the international community.
      1. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 1 October 2019 22: 20
        0
        So you described the whole situation with 6 sentences simply and clearly. Who is stopping the Turkish leadership is just as easy to tell everyone?
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 22: 44
          +11
          I have already written above that the article (translation) is selectively made and colored by the author of the translation in a "peculiar color"
          The original introduction contains a very intelligible speech by Erdogan about the integrity of the territories of Syria, and how Turkey intends to ensure that the borders of Syria do not change, since a single and whole Syria is beneficial for neighboring countries, especially for Turkey. But, here the authors missed this part of the speech, not translated. Question why? Indeed, in this introduction there are basic theses and plans for good neighborly relations with a whole and indivisible Syria.
          1. Ural-4320
            Ural-4320 1 October 2019 23: 22
            +6
            Thank you for fighting for the truth. Nowadays, it is more and more difficult to do.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 1 October 2019 22: 33
        +1
        Thank you hi
        Quote: Oquzyurd
        There are 3.6 million Syrian refugees in Turkey,

        In this regard, Turkey acted humanly.

        Quote: Oquzyurd
        from bombing and from different bearded

        Turkey itself did not hide the fact that initially its strategy was built on the overthrow of the damask government. Yet they remember her statements, "we will perform the prayer in Damascus."

        Turks spent $ 40 billion on their maintenance

        Sure, the costs are tangible, but at the same time,
        Erdogan: We continue to host 3 million refugees. What will the European Union do if all these people go to Europe? We have already spent more than 10 billion euros on the maintenance of refugees.
        According to Erdogan, from the EU to Ankara reached about 1,2 billion euros.


        Having just built something for them, they can be returned to Syria.

        As far as I understand, Russia claims the same.
        1. Oquzyurd
          Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 22: 53
          +4
          For 8 years, Europeans spent 3 billion euros on Syrian refugees who are in Turkey, but they did it through different European organizations, directly spending the same amount on these organizations, that is, they did not help the Turkish budget, which allocated money for the maintenance of refugees .. In other words, Turkey itself received nothing from them, from the word, completely.
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 1 October 2019 23: 18
            +2
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            For 8 years, Europeans spent 3 billion euros on Syrian refugees who are in Turkey, but they did it through different European organizations, directly spending the same amount on these organizations, that is, they did not help the Turkish budget, which allocated money for the maintenance of refugees .. In other words, Turkey itself received nothing from them, from the word, completely.

            Thank you Jeyhun for patient clarification. You are the faithful son of Turkey. Good luck hi
          2. Town Hall
            Town Hall 1 October 2019 23: 23
            0
            Quote: Oquzyurd
            For 8 years, Europeans spent 3 billion euros on Syrian refugees who are in Turkey, but they did it through different European organizations, directly spending the same amount on these organizations, that is, they did not help the Turkish budget, which allocated money for the maintenance of refugees .. In other words, Turkey itself received nothing from them, from the word, completely.

            Again, you hang Turkish noodles to a gullible public. In 2016, the EU allocated 3 billion euros to help the Syrians in Turkey. In 2018, another 3 billion. That’s 6 billion for 4 years. And all this money goes straight to the Turkish economy. Refugees pay them to the Turks rents, pay for purchases in Turkish shops, etc., etc.
            PySy. How many hundreds of thousands of refugees were provoked by the Turkish attack on Syrian Afrin and the subsequent ethnic cleansing there?
            1. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 23: 47
              +3
              "How many hundreds of thousands of refugees were provoked by the Turkish attack on Syrian Afrin and the subsequent ethnic cleansing there?" Kurdish armed detachments escaped from Afrin, which built concrete labyrinths on their lands. Population in its place, do not deceive people. There was no ethnic cleansing and destruction either. That witness saw Afrin, especially since everyone remembers Raqqa, Musul, etc. .b that these cities were turned by the "liberators" Moreover, the population returned to Afrin, who fled from the 5-year "Kurdish" rule.
              1. Town Hall
                Town Hall 1 October 2019 23: 50
                +1
                I see that they are talking about billions and to whom they go modestly remained silent. And out of habit, they switched to another propaganda about good Turks and evil Kurds)
                1. Oquzyurd
                  Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 23: 55
                  +1
                  You see, you are biased, and you are not set to eat grapes, but to beat the gardener)))
                  1. Town Hall
                    Town Hall 2 October 2019 00: 05
                    -1
                    Well, yes. And you are an example of objectivity). They wrote the sign from Turkish propaganda, counting as usual what would do. By the way, the Kurds were the only ones who stopped ISIS while Erdogan and his son were trading oil with them. Refugees from Afrin who underwent ethnic cleansing by Erdogan and expelled from their land -250.000 if that. 6 billion European money, went exactly to the Turkish economy. This money goes to refugees special credit cards and they spend it on survival in Turkey and not in other countries. The Sultan arranged a business for refugees. He has ruined the country's economy in recent years and is looking for left-wing ways to improve refugee affairs
                    1. Oquzyurd
                      Oquzyurd 2 October 2019 00: 27
                      +2
                      You are far from reality, and from the events taking place in general. You wrote the fig, being confident that you were "right". What I have already written, and there is no desire to prove something to you, since I consider it a useless exercise.
            2. Oquzyurd
              Oquzyurd 1 October 2019 23: 53
              0
              And, yes, the EU allocated 2 times 3 billion euros, but actually paid once, and not to Turkey, but to its organizations that helped Syrian refugees in Turkey. And Turkey has already spent 40 mln.dol. Honestly answer, Is this comparable, and can this be considered help on a scale of what is happening?
  13. Shahno
    Shahno 1 October 2019 21: 22
    0
    Quote: Welldone
    Erdogan has Napoleonic plans for a long time. There’s nothing to be surprised at.

    Well, what to do. Let Israel dictate something ... Then he (this Erogan) will be a force in BV.
    And so ...
  14. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 1 October 2019 21: 35
    -3
    The bandits agree with the bandits how to share the stranger. Get out of Syria, jackals are sub-fence!
  15. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 October 2019 22: 22
    0
    Ankara agreed with Washington

    Not one of them knows how to keep his word, but knows how to keep a fig in his bosom. Worthless such arrangements. More popcorn!
  16. Dikson
    Dikson 2 October 2019 06: 57
    -1
    What was to be expected .. It has long been written here how it will be .. The USA has squeezed out the oil fields and is organizing its own state there, Turkey has looked at this and is also organizing its own state .. Now Israel will squeeze out a little territory for itself ... and our troops they will guard Assad in his bunker .. For in Damascus, after all, are the Israelis quite painlessly bullet? And when all the turbidity after the redrawing of the borders settles, Russia will give Syria an irrevocable loan and begin to build hospitals and schools .. and then, Assad will be replaced and Russia will get in the ass and fly out of Syria ... How many times has this happened?
  17. Alexzn
    Alexzn 2 October 2019 07: 57
    +2
    Erdogan is trying to realize the interests of Turkey. The problem of refugees from Syria most of all affected Turkey, and it wants to solve it within the framework of its interests. Mualam at the UN demanded the immediate withdrawal of Turkish forces from Syria, but did not demand the immediate return of a couple of million refugees from Turkey. Turkey will solve two problems at once - refugees and Kurds.
    For Russia, all this threatens with image and financial challenges. So far, Russia is coping, but the danger of tearing is constantly present.
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 2 October 2019 09: 06
    0
    Ankara agreed with Washington to create a "security zone", and in fact - a "quasi-state" in the territory belonging to Syria.

    And who doubted that the "sultan" would not seek, do as he wants? Wishlist, this thing is, they are ... and the appetite comes with eating! until something "complex, indigestible" becomes in the dish much more than the eater wanted! It is necessary .... but what is necessary?
  19. Kontrik
    Kontrik 2 October 2019 19: 11
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    Turkey has no choice but to act alone, given that “too little progress” has been made in establishing a “safe zone” in northeast Syria

    Judging by this cry of Erdogan, Turkey is failing to expand its territory of influence .. Putin put Erdogan on the hook quite well "didn't get off with tomatoes" hehe
    The flows of weapons and militants through the territory of Turkey with Syria have decreased several times and this is not bad for Russia-Syria! hi
    About Kurds, I look, too, the topic is no longer relevant ..?