The new guise of the Chinese troops: a unique technique at the military parade in Beijing

The grand military parade, dedicated to the 70 anniversary of the founding of the PRC, was full of not only the slender lines of the Chinese military, but also the latest models of military equipment, which have no analogues in the world. However, the leading Western media outlets, under their own "sauce", decided to file a military parade with unique Chinese military equipment.

Tanks rolling down the main street overlooking Tiananmen Square, the same route they took 30 years ago to crush democratic demonstrations

- writes the Washington Post.

Today, China’s main Western media agenda is centered around Hong Kong protests. Particular excitement caused the death of a demonstrator, who was allegedly shot dead by police. Against this background, the military power of the country shown in Beijing is perceived by the West in dark colors.

A lot of young people feel that they will not have a future because of the power of China

- quotes Politico the words of one of the residents of Hong Kong.

It is not surprising that the latest weapons models did not practically attract the attention of Western media. The only product on which journalistic material is recorded is the DF-17 ICBM.

It is capable of breaking through all existing anti-missile shields deployed by the United States and its allies.

- noted the online newspaper Politico.

You can continue to quote this kind of quotes from the Western press, but try to focus better on the weapons shown by China. Imagine a broadcast of what was presented today at a large-scale Chinese military parade - as a demonstration of the new guise of the Chinese troops.

MBT Type 99A

Light tank Type 15

BMP Type 04A

BMP Type 05A (Marine Corps)

BMD ZLC-2000, possibly

ATGM HJ-10

MTR technique

KR YJ-18 and YJ-18A (“ship-to-ship”, “PL-ship”)

PKKR YJ-12B

SAM HQ-9B

SAM HQ-12A

SAM HQ-6A

Shipborne air defense HQ-10

Naval SAM HQ-16

Naval air defense system HHQ-9B

Field SAM HQ-16B

Field SAM HQ-17A

UAV GJ-11

Hypersonic drone. Similar devices in the world have not yet been announced

Different class unmanned aerial vehicles

HSU001 unmanned aerial vehicle

Means of EW

ICBM DF-5B

KR DF-100

ICBM DF-41

ICBM DF-31AG

DF-26

Underwater Shell JL-2

Medium-range missile DF-17 with winged combat unit

Comments

[Azazelo]

It looks like the parade brought all the Chinese vehicles)))

[haanan]

China has technology, the military budget is five times bigger than ours, cheap labor, production losses, and to say that all the technology is not about China. Your dictum is more suitable for us, we are collecting all the equipment from the troops for the parade

[Vladimir16]

Why is there no photo of the destroyer on wheels? This is an omission.
They all drove everything in carts — both airplanes and submarines and marine anti-aircraft installations.
Even a hypersonic plane rolled ...
But there is no ship.

The trouble with these Chinese.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vladimir16

Why is there no photo of the destroyer on wheels?

I looked at the photo ... the feeling that I had visited a Soviet parade ... a lot of equipment, well, very similar to ours and the Soviet one.

[Sky strike fighter]

Lucky for China. They have no Kudrin.

[Vladimir16]

Quote: NEXUS

similar to ours and Soviet.

Soviet is not yours?
Why did you deprive yourself of your own past?

Russia, USSR, Russian Empire, Russia - all these are the names of my country

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vladimir16

Soviet is not yours?
Why did you deprive yourself of your own past?

You do not squeeze out what is not in my comment ... I spoke about two eras and that is why I divided them. And the past ... I was born in the USSR, but that was a completely different country than today's Russian Federation.

[Piramidon]

Quote: NEXUS

You do not squeeze out what is not in my comment ... I spoke about two eras and that is why I divided them. And the past ... I was born in the USSR, but that was a completely different country than today's Russian Federation.

In order not to make excuses, it was necessary to write not "similar to ours and Soviet", but similar to Russian and Soviet. In fact, Vladimir correctly noted (I support him) that with these words you separated us from the USSR. It turns out that there is ours, and there is Soviet. Re-read your words and understand their meaning.

[Shurik70]

Yes, a lot of technology is based on Soviet prototypes. But!
Rocket DF-17 - completely original (and beautiful, by the way)
The hypersonic UAV is also its own.
China is developing rapidly!

[GibSoN]

The hypersonic UAV is also its own.

Is it possible in more detail? Well, just interesting, purely from the technical side ..

[Shurik70]

Quote: GibSoN

Is it possible in more detail? Well, just interesting, purely from the technical side ..

This is interesting to everyone. How did they solve the communication problem? At high speeds, the air ionizes and blocks the passage of radio waves.
Russian hyper-speed rocket is not like this glider. She is not a UAV, is not controlled from the outside. Goes to the goal fully automatically.
Perhaps the Chinese have started a misinformation, this is not a UAV, but a Chinese analogue of the "Dagger", but outwardly it does not look like a "Dagger". So this is its own development.

[Zdishek]

Yes, they just put the pilot inside, but right there in hindsight a certificate of his death. So the UAV is ready

[Zdishek]

In fact, a joke. The control problem has been solved by Us on the Tu-143. A tough flight program is being introduced. In this case, it cannot even be intercepted and crushed. But data can only be obtained after landing.

[Hort]

maybe they launched a disu and this is not hypersonic

[DimerVladimer]

Quote: Shurik70

This is interesting to everyone. How did they solve the communication problem? At high speeds, the air ionizes and blocks the passage of radio waves.

In the USSR, this was decided by remote antennas.

[Vadim237]

"The DF-17 rocket is completely original" Take a closer look at it.

[GRF]

Quote: NEXUS

You do not squeeze what is not in my comment.

we share ... sya, to the joy of those
whom we with pleasure call bros, partners, authorities, elites, etc.

another country? Do you really think that the people will rise if the authorities decide to divide the country into parts again or do something else to harm it?

when Putin was elected, he did not promise to increase the retirement age.
but increased, and this is a minus to everyone, and financially, but at the same time, everyone is silent .... so the country is the same, for the people are the same ...

Well, if then (USSR) there was a visa-free travel to Turkmenistan and there is no seichach now, this is a reason for dividing by epoch, then why is the annexation of Crimea not dividing into eras?
Il change of parties is an occasion for eras?

my and my childhood crafts! it sounds terribly correct and of course there’s nothing to squeeze out ...

[nickname7]

Well, if then (USSR) there was a visa-free travel to Turkmenistan and there is no seichach now, this is a reason for dividing by epoch, then why is the annexation of Crimea not dividing into eras?

What does visa-free have to do with it?
The USSR was an industrial, scientific superpower, the 2nd economy of the world, talked with the states on equal terms, who would try to bomb Yugoslavia, then.
And now the Russian Federation is a peripheral country of the 3rd world. states can bomb and arrange coups d'etat along the borders of the Russian Federation. The era of the USSR and the era of the Russian Federation, these are completely different eras, but the people are one.

[GRF]

Yes, nothing to do without visas. the answer was not about him.
And I comment on the statement imposed in particular by you
that now the Russian Federation is a peripheral country of the 3rd world ...
the difference between the USSR and the Russian Federation will soon be no! why? because:
in the first world, they fraternized with the Germans, before the second world, many sincerely did not believe in treachery (well, just like Napoleon, how to fight with this light? But with the light of democracy (well, why fight the empire of good? Chewing gum and jeans they really have ) therefore they were lost until the people themselves were convinced of their bestial grin ...
we have a good memory, we quickly forget the evil done to our ancestors, especially when our sincere friends rewrite history ...
Borders are burning, I don’t know if this is enough for our people this time, unfortunately, probably not yet, but the fact that we have something else burning will be much worse for arsonists, because humane missiles, unlike ours we have no national disposition.
they were different ... the era is different ... yes nifiga! so we were then and are so now ...
we have always been able and able to strike, especially when someone else’s life, we begin to value more than their own.
How can one speak on equal terms with someone without self-esteem? but how does self-respect relate to being willing to be on 3 roles or those that indicate?
what was the USSR and how did it become? what was the Russian Federation and what is becoming?
I am not against the names of this or that period of history, but the Soviet phrase and our technique is not from that opera. il Soviet Kuznetsov is no longer ours?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lucky for China. They have no Kudrin.

They and Serdyukov with EBN and Marked were not ...

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lucky for China. They have no Kudrin.

They and Serdyukov with EBN and Marked were not ...

Happy people. I want to imagine how to live without experiencing this. To see fate saved. The shock to see it only in our way.

[Nick]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lucky for China. They have no Kudrin.

They and Serdyukov with EBN and Marked were not ...

Happy people. I want to imagine how to live without experiencing this. To see fate saved. The shock to see it only in our way.

China survived the opium wars, the Japanese occupation, and the cultural revolution. Not sugar either.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Happy people. I want to imagine how to live without experiencing this. To see fate saved. The shock to see it only in our way.

China had a "Cultural Revolution". Read what it is and what the Chinese had to go through.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

lucky China. They have no Kudrin.

They shot him .... And our grandmaster’s favorite trick is castling.

[Hort]

they have TOTAL corruption based on cultural characteristics - nothing will be done without oiling officials. Therefore, indicative executions are too over-carried out

[Ingvar 72]

Is it different with us? Is corruption absent historically?

[Hort]

Of course not. This phenomenon is indestructible on the whole planet) I’m not worth citing China as an example without knowing their intricacies (which they don’t even advertise).

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: hort

not knowing their inner subtleties

The East is of course a delicate matter, but even if China was able to curb the corruption in their blood by shootings, then such a measure would certainly help in Russia.

[Hort]

Well curb, it’s said aloud. So, periodic purges and demonstrative repressions are carried out

[Ingvar 72]

And thereby strongly demotivate those who want to warm their hairy hands.

[Catfish]

And we have? I do not know what kind of corruption is "tough", ours, or Chinese, but the fact that the parade of their army is much more impressive than ours is obvious. To my great regret.

[chenia]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

They have no Kudrin.

He was with them. But they shot him.

[Sky strike fighter]

Kudrin is fate.

[Greg Miller]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lucky for China. They have no Kudrin.

The main thing is that they did not have Yeltsin and Putin ... and the rest of the "Kudrins" are all secondary ...

[Sarmat Sanych]

Miller, little do you know China. There, the annual outflow of capital is more than half a trillion dollars, all the children of the partelite (up to one) have Canadian and British passports, Canada even last year threatened to publish Old if the Celestial Empire does not stop coming, they shut up). In each major Chinese state-owned enterprise, the conditional Sechin set up by the CP of China sits and raises billions of dollars for himself and his associates, just recently they found 13,5 tons of gold at one house, people seemed to have leaked.
And hype about Putin is enough to raise, this man really saved Russia by regaining superpower status, returning Russian lands, strengthening the Army, our strategic nuclear forces are the most powerful on the planet, we are the only ones on Earth who have hypersonic, nuclear-powered, nuclear unmanned weapons, we have reakoid crops in the history of Russia grain, poultry, pork production, our gold reserves almost $ 600 billion plus gold 2300 tons, we build 68% of the world's nuclear power plants, we have a record consumption of meat, fish and fruit per capita over 70 years of statistics in the country, infant mortality is one of the lowest in the world (4,5 per 1000 births, this is 1,5 times lower than in the United States), the number of abortions in 2018 is minimal for half a century (including the period of the RSFSR), the list is huge.

[Vadim237]

And we also have 20% of the global market for agricultural equipment, more than 60% for isotopic medical materials. The world's first icebreaker fleet and will soon be the first in the world to produce LNG, argon, helium, propane, xenon and other technical gases.

[Sarmat Sanych]

And it is right! Sorry, I was on vacation.

[Sam-07]

and in our village the roof of the club collapsed ... it’s impossible to repair the administration and residents, the land and the building are in private ownership ... and yes, everything is there - 4G connection, gas was carried out last year (the connection is already fifty dollars), asphalt is nearby ... only young people with indifferent eyes, the population working head over heels in loans, and pensioners at a side job ... and yes, ahead of the planet.
PS what's next ??

[Nick]

Quote: Sam-07

and in our village the roof of the club collapsed

And before that, go your villagers with your own hands destroyed the temple.

Quote: Sam-07

asphalt nearby ... only youth with indifferent eyes

Therefore, young people with indifferent eyes.

Quote: Sam-07

PS what's next ??

Depends on us ...

[Sam-07]

the temple shines with domes)))) I am interested in how these achievements and wonders of the economy described by you affect my well-being and the future generation? personally on mine and my relatives and friends.
PS there are arms and legs, I earn money))) and without slogans, please

[Vadim237]

Personally, your actions and actions, aspirations, lifestyle and, most importantly, lack of indifference will be a significant influence on yours and the lives of your loved ones.

[Dimonovets]

They affect absolutely straightforwardly. The country's security is above all, even personal well-being. Otherwise, neither you, nor your children, nor other people will have a country. You have, in principle, the ability to do what you do. Live, work, raise children with dignity, have "personally yours." You have all this
thanks to these very achievements. Without the well-being of the country itself, your personal prosperity is impossible.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

this man really saved Russia by returning the status of a superpower, returning Russian lands, strengthening the Army, our strategic nuclear forces are the most powerful on the planet, we are the only ones on Earth who have hypersonic, nuclear-powered, nuclear-unmanned weapons, we have grain crops recycle in the entire history of Russia, poultry, pork production, our gold reserves are almost $ 600 billion plus gold 2300 tons, we are building 68% of the world's nuclear power plants, we have a record consumption of meat, fish and fruit per capita over 70 years of statistics in the country, infant mortality is one of the lowest in the world (4,5 per 1000 births, this is 1,5 times lower than in the United States), the number of abortions in 2018 is minimal for half a century (including the period of the RSFSR), the list is huge.

"When you say, Ivan Vasilievich, it feels like you are delusional!" (C)

[Nick]

Quote: Greenwood

"When you say, Ivan Vasilievich, it feels like you are delusional!" (C)

Alas, this is statistics. Bullshit, this is when the facts are denied.

[MSN]

Statistics in the Putin era are miracles. The head of Rosstat changed and immediately the construction jumped from 0,5 to 5,3% growth. For the previous year. They will change their boss once more - they will grow up to 10. And what? And not such growths seen. With empty stores ...

[Nick]

Quote: MSN

Statistics in the Putin era are miracles.

No, your fantasies are certainly more wonderful

[MSN]

Is there any way to google it? It happens. And about fantasies - no. Not fantasies, memories.

[Nick]

Yes, Google already

[Sarmat Sanych]

MSN, what?) "With empty stores"? That's why it’s impossible to drive up to thousands of shopping centers all over Russia on Friday and the weekend - everything is occupied by millions of SUVs. And retail chains almost fight for free space.
Regarding statistics, you don’t understand what kind of science it is and how the final data is formed. Hundreds of indicators are being systematized, everything is more than verifiable, including by independent structures, it is possible to conceal 0,2%, well, about
0,5% at best, no more. By the way, over the past couple of years, record volumes of housing have been introduced in Russia, at 70-75 million sq m, which is more than in the best periods of the RSFSR. I am generally silent about comparing the quality of housing with the then Khrushchevs.

[Vadim237]

All that is described above is a fact of history and economics.

[tracer]

These fools are scribbling about Putin under hypnosis. All of it is the cause of everything and everything. Alpha and Omega straight.

[Vadim237]

If Putin did not appear in power - with a probability of 80% of the 90s devastation would still be in a more neglected version. I personally do not want to go back and remember those years.

[nickname7]

These fools are scribbling about Putin under hypnosis. All of it is the cause of everything and everything. Alpha and Omega straight.

It is as if politics should be often on television, but after 20 years of being there, the population begins to perceive the president as a monarch, with all the consequences. They’re not at home that the chief executive officer is not Louis XIV. The policy is determined by the ruling class, and the official only does what he is told.

[DimerVladimer]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

Miller, you know little China. There is an annual outflow of capital of more than half a trillion dollars, all the children of the partelite (up to one) have Canadian and British passports,

Seriously? Under Shin Zen Ping, such purges began ...

The death sentence is handed down to the former head of the Chinese railways. From 1986 to 2011, when Liu Zhijun held various responsible posts, including the post of Minister of Railways, he received bribes worth more than $ 10 million.

Ding Yuxin, with the help of the ex-minister, "earned" about $ 489 million. The court also ruled to freeze all bank deposits of the business woman, confiscate all her property, including many rare works of art, jewelry, securities.

All this will cover the damage caused by the actions of the former minister.

Now, for any fraud in the amount of more than one million yuan (about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars), a public execution is due. Severe measures can significantly limit corruption, but are not able to eradicate it completely.

https://rg.ru/2013/07/09/pulya.html

Well, or with us - the former Minister of Defense was stolen - they made a noise and were removed to a smaller position ...
The case of the prosecutors collapsed.
Governors steal, and plant only selectively.
Our governor Dubrovsky, Putin’s protege, has been stealing on the roads since the first year of the governorship, everyone knew that, because the only company constantly won tenders, and the municipal plant went bankrupt, sold its equipment to its own (almost new, bought for budgetary funds) - as a result, the city was constantly in winter, littered with snow, and the pits are not even central streets - and does not even sit ...

The Chinese perceive Russia as an extremely undemocratic authoritarian state with monstrous corruption - and this is the merit of the "guarantor."

[nickname7]

And hype about Putin is enough to raise, this man really saved Russia by returning the status of a superpower

He didn’t save, he rather stopped the fall and fixed a certain level, apparently the oligarchs realized that if the Yeltsin collapse continues further, the oligarchs will lose their feeding area. But today's system is still vicious, it does not allow the country to develop, while the whole world is moving forward.

Between 1990 and 2012, GDP grew
EU-27 at 34% at 1,3% per year
US at 69% at 2,3% per year
China at 760% at 9,8% per year

Learn Chinese.

[nickname7]

we have reakoid grain crops in the entire history of Russia, poultry and pork production, our gold reserves are almost $ 600 billion plus 2300 tons of gold,

And what is the use of withdrawing money from the economy and keeping it in Western papers? Hornbeam store. Abroad, money does not withdraw, they are spent for the good of the country.
Here in the west you can immediately see that they are rich, they have villages, remote places almost do not differ from cities. The villages are asphalted, marking.

[Nick]

Quote: Greg Miller

The main thing is that they did not have Yeltsin and Putin

Thank God that we no longer have Yeltsin, but Putin does.

[Kontrik]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Lucky for China. They have no Kudrin.

Most likely there was no hunchback .. They rolled their "protest liberals" back in the early 80s in tanks right away ..
We see the result now !!!

[Vadim237]

Of course we see - copying and hybridization of what hung overseas with their achievements - most of what China produces leaves much to be desired in quality.

[Nick]

Quote: Vadim237

most of what China produces leaves much to be desired in quality.

But they are gradually improving quality. On electronic devices, this is very noticeable.

[Dikson]

Sooner or later, quantity turns into quality - this is the law of dialectics .. The speed of development of China's industry will inevitably push this state to the forefront ... Again, the mass production of radio-controlled toys for children allowed us to develop an electronic base so much that we will not catch up with them in a decade .. And there is no need to scold them and find fault with stealing technologies and copying samples .. If you don’t want to remember the USSR, remember how semi-feudal Japan rushed after the war ... The whole world used Japanese tape recorders and devices, and continues to drive Japanese cars .. And Forgive me, 30 years after the Great Victory, our people were happy, having bought "Zaporozhets" in turn ... Here's a story ...

[Departure]

I would definitely not begin to compare the organization of labor in Japan and the USSR, where a person develops his resource extremely quickly for obvious reasons, for a Soviet worker some moments would be great savagery. for example, light bulbs above conveyor workers, there is a tape and people stand and collect something on it, if someone suddenly skips, then the light comes on right above him and his colleagues begin to press well (not exactly the boss, though also, but the neighbors unhappiness). one of many details. In general, China and Japan there are a lot of speyphic nuances in the work, causes and effects, their style will not suit us.

[nickname7]

In general, China and Japan there are a lot of speyphic nuances in the work, causes and effects, their style will not suit us.

Quite right, using Japanese equipment may be nice, but here's how they achieve this, thank you.
States of them (South Korea, Japan) created a labor camp with a sweatshop system. The workers have a contract for 1 month, you cannot leave work later than the boss, constant processing, 1 day of leave per year, etc.

[NordUral]

A lot of people they don’t have, if only we don’t have them (I don’t point with my finger).

[Oleg (Kharkov)]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

They have no Kudrin.

they had curls and all kinds of liberal scum. Only com party of the PRC was not afraid in 1989 the Maidan of the Liberalists to reel on the caterpillars. Moreover, in 2008, part of the surviving liberals were still in prison in China.

[Greenwood]

It’s a little unclear what Navalny is doing in this company. He was not and is not in power and does not hold public office. Instead, there should be a photo of the current president and his prime minister. It’s more logical.

[Nick]

Quote: Greenwood

Instead, there should be a photo of the current president and his prime minister. It’s more logical.

More logical than Gorbachev and his friend Yakovlev, an American spy. But Navalny, too ... Foreign agent.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Nick

Bulk too ... Foreign agent.

I agree about Gorbachev. Again I ask about Navalny, does he occupy government posts, does he affect the country's legislation? He's just a journalist and a blogger, so how sideways is he here?

[Nick]

Quote: Greenwood

He's just a journalist and a blogger, so how sideways is he here?

He is also a foreign agent, the leader of the "fifth column," an enemy in one word.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Nick

he is the foreign agent leader of the "fifth column"

How scary to live.

Quote: Nick

enemy in one word

Not looking for the enemy there.

[Nick]

Quote: Greenwood

Not looking for the enemy there.

And why look for him, the navalnites themselves climb into all the cracks, the rallies are illegal, the Internet is full of them, the media report them. Even shamans were attracted. So you protect them.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Nick

the bulk players themselves climb into all the cracks, the rallies are illegal, the Internet is clogged with them, the media report them

So I say: NOT THERE are you looking for the enemy. Has Navalny raised your retirement age? Pensions and salaries of state employees Navalny NOT index? Does he regularly raise gasoline prices and utility bills? Is Navalny building his own palaces for billions of taxpayer money? Or maybe Navalny spends a million on the maintenance of the government apparatus and the reconstruction of the State Duma building?
It's funny that you are afraid of rallies and media articles, but you stubbornly do not see the point.

[Departure]

Navalny is more of a situational ally than an enemy. he exposes the theft of edra in capitals and in the localities, gives people the opportunity to think. Yes, the indent and he pursues his goals in this activity, but personally I do not believe in the possibility of revolution in general and in the fact that he will be allowed to go to the feeding trough too. Therefore, he makes developments for us, which may be useful in the future and descendants will appreciate the scale of our helmsman's accumulations.

[Nick]

Quote: departure

but personally I don’t believe in the possibility of revolution in general

In 1990, I also did not believe in the possibility of the collapse of the USSR.

[Departure]

the collapse of the USSR and the revolution are two different things. the collapse of Russia will most likely be a recurrence of the crisis of the 90s and very painful, I would not want to catch all these troubles during my life, but the chances of such an outcome are decent.

[Greenwood]

The country is being pulled into a revolutionary situation by the reforms of "effective" managers and friends of themselves, sitting at the state feeder, and not at all some kind of Navalny with his Fund and rallies.

[nickname7]

and not at all some Navalny there with his Fund and rallies

Bulk with the foundation, it is a kind of tiny bridgehead that can seize power if it falls.

[nickname7]

In 1990, I also did not believe in the possibility of the collapse of the USSR

Have you imagined yourself a reference? He did not think.
And someone was already thinking of becoming the owner of a national (draw) nornickel.
And the nomenclature in the 88s already sent sons to study the market economy in Western universities.

[Nick]

Quote: departure

he makes developments for us, which may be useful in the future

There are no specifics, only speculation and pulling an owl on a globe. The task of the bulk is to pump people up with negative emotions, embitter people and make them act against the authorities, even violating Russian laws. At the August rallies in Moscow held by Navalny and comrades, this became clearly visible to all unbiased observers.

[Greenwood]

Quote: Nick

There are no specifics, only speculation and pulling an owl on a globe

Are there any calculations from Rossreestr? There is. Do you have any references from similar foreign organizations? There is. The victims of his investigations often end up agreeing with all that has been said, but begin to absurdly excuse themselves (examples of Solovyov with his Italian villas, Brilev with British citizenship). There are also appeals to the court, but cases are often not given progress. This was also said more than once.

Quote: Nick

negative emotions, embitter people and make them act against power

With negative emotions, the authorities themselves regularly pump the population with their reforms.

[Nick]

Quote: Greenwood

Are there any calculations from Rossreestr? There is. Do you have any references from similar foreign organizations? There is. The victims of his investigations often end up agreeing with all that has been said, but begin to absurdly excuse themselves (examples of Solovyov with his Italian villas, Brilev with British citizenship). There are also appeals to the court, but cases are often not given progress. This was also said more than once

What matters is not so much the facts, but their interpretation. But Navalny often has no facts. Only speculations of assumptions and assumptions. If there are indirect facts, then bulk ones will think them over and conceive as they please. More precisely, it will be whatever their customer wants.

[nickname7]

But Navalny often has no facts. Only speculations of assumptions and assumptions

quite right, the mediocrity of his arguments, he literally falls asleep with emotions. A lot of emotion, this is the first sign of manipulation.

[Oleg (Kharkov)]

Quote: Greenwood

It’s a little unclear what Navalny is doing in this company.

I do not understand Russian politics, but I have rich experience in Ukrainian.
Yushchenko is a patriot, with his 10 steps to people reminiscent of bulk.

[Vadim237]

Continue on the course for the mediation of the Russian economy - success to you.

[Catfish]

They don’t have us either.

[maidan.izrailovich]

But there is no ship.

Mdya ....
The aircraft carrier was clearly not enough.

[ustas-oto]

Look at the Ukrainian parade.

[Sarmat Sanych]

haanan, compared with Russian weapons - China has one junk. All ICBMs carry micro-warheads of 20-50 ct, which is essentially a tactical weapon inferior to ours in power tenfold. There were no strategic bombers and there will not be half a century, synanthropes simply are not able to create something, even copy normally. Chinese nuclear submarines of any class are Soviet-built in the 70s, there are less than 10 of them and everyone is hiding in the caves of Hainan, because they are rattling all over South China and Americans are spotted from California. It’s not worth talking about Chinese tanks, the biathlon showed a level, and it is below Kazakhstan. And further in the text, too lazy to paint plus what kind of parade is it without flights of hundreds of planes in Russia? A miserable semblance, even if it took part next year in Moscow, it will be the best Parade in the history of mankind. After the Parade forty-fifth naturally.

[Dikson]

And how long have we had hundreds of planes flying in the Parade? eight swifts and ten su — is that hundreds of planes? Or do you think one Tu-160 for 25 fighters?

[Sarmat Sanych]

What "8 Swifts and 10 Su"?) Have you ever been to our parades in Moscow? Do you know how many planes and helicopters were in the same 2017, 2016?

[haanan]

You are wrong. Their ICBMs have a range that exceeds ours, a strategic bomber who will give it to be used in a war, they build ships of the ocean zone in a maximum of 3 years in large quantities, and we have RTOs for 8 years, there was aviation and watch a lot of videos on YouTube. We buy electronic components from China for our weapons, an engine for calibers, from South Korea an anchor for our "boats" and this list will be endless, this speaks of the pre-eminence of China to which we are very close. Our superiority in the amount of oil and gas sold, and that's where it ended

[Sarmat Sanych]

haanan, was on vacation, so I do not immediately respond to your delirium.
You do not know anything about the Celestial Empire, learn the materiel. For 70 years, the Chinese in the military-industrial complex did not come up with their own practically NI-FI-GA. I will give an example of strategic nuclear forces and missile defense:
In terms of strategic nuclear forces, the PRC simply eats up the remnants of technology donated by the Union in the 50-60s, as well as sold for nothing by Russia in the 90-2000s. From the ground up, the USSR built China's entire industries with hundreds of factories and research institutes, trained hundreds of thousands of Chinese specialists, handed over documentation to all of its projects, and created the most powerful Chinese defense industry. Despite such a fantastic present, for 70 years of large-scale programs and trillions of investments, Beijing has not acquired a small nuclear triad. The Union in the PRC has built 763 full-fledged factories with all the infrastructure and the most modern equipment, 97 scientific and technical centers, 11 test sites, including 4 underground. ~ 150000 Chinese students studied for free in Soviet military schools, 6000 Soviet scientists and 100000 technologists and specialists worked in China itself. The enterprises built then - air complexes in Shenyang, Harbin, Xi'an and Chengdu, a tank factory in Baotou, a complex of enterprises for the production of small arms and artillery weapons, and much more are still the basis of the Chinese defense industry. China received from the USSR a gigantic array of equipment for creating a full cycle of nuclear weapons, rocketry, R-1 and R-2 missiles and manufacturing technologies, technologies for uranium enrichment, the construction of centrifuges, etc. The centrifuges themselves were eventually imported from the Union along with all the documentation, because the Chinese could not master their production at the Soviet factories in their homeland. Similarly with missiles, for 6 years the Chinese could not even manufacture a prototype of the Soviet project X-31. As a result, in the 57th USSR, it transferred the Celestial Empire with a full cycle of training local specialists in our universities, created the Beijing Institute of Physics and Atomic Energy in China, built a gas diffusion uranium enrichment plant in Lanzhou, and launched a heavy water reactor and cyclotron at a plant in Beijing. In the 58th Union, a nuclear test site was opened in Xinjiang, where the Chinese are still conducting ALL of their nuclear tests. The USSR put the Soviet R-2 and R-11 to China on the DB, the first combat formation of a new kind of troops appeared in the 1th. Celestial Empire received the technology for the production of nuclear carriers of the IL-28 and Tu-16. Even earlier, the Union sent to China a large number of IL-28s and 25 Tu-4s. In the early 60s, Moscow ceased to provide large-scale assistance to its neighbor, which instantly affected the entire nuclear program of China, the production of IL-28 and Tu-16 was established only in the 68th, and then every 2nd instance did not take off. Only at the end of 66th the 12st DF-894 (our R-1M) delivered a charge of 2 kt for 5 km, and in the 67th the 6st water was dropped from the Khun-16 (Tu-1) .bomb (3,3 mt). Tu-16 combat units received the names “Khun-5A” and “Khun-6A”, then the “Tsyan-5” (MiG-19) appeared. Since then, China’s strategic nuclear forces have remained virtually unchanged, including primitive liquid DF-5 (preparation for launching more than 2 hours), mobile solid-fuel. DF-31 (short range, monoblock), DF-4 (10 units) with a range of 5500 km (they cannot even be based in the mine, they are launched from the launch pad). There is an improved monoblock mobile DF-31NA with a range of 11000, but there are only 15 of them. In the 90s, on the basis of technologies stolen in the Russian Federation, the creation of the DF-41 with a range of about 14000 km, up to 10 blocks of low power, began. However, it will enter the database at least 15 years later, the whole history of China missile programs speaks about this: from the time of the first launch to the real database, it takes 1-20 years. Moreover, from the traditional triad (missile forces, submarine fleet and strategic aviation) - only one has been created in China. They have 1 boat with SLBMs - project 092, the range of the missiles is only 1700 km. But even this submarine with antediluvian missiles never reached the database, because it constantly breaks and is very noisy, when the engine starts, it is immediately detected by all neighbors. The construction of 094 boats with JL-2 missiles (the stolen R-30 technologies were used) with a range of 8000 km is underway. JL-2 was unsuccessfully tested for 25 years, 40 scientists and officers were shot "for the jambs". 094 itself, through espionage of technologies, was copied from the project 667BDR of the 76th year, but it was not possible to copy normally either - they are in terms of indicators similar to the Soviet ones of the early 70s. In terms of noise - 2nd generation (the Russian Federation and the United States are now 5th). Plus, they are not yet there, but the 1st 094 will be completed in three years. Even worse for aviation, nuclear weapons carry only one regiment of the old Tu-16 (Khun-6K), which the Chinese, thanks to two thousand Russian specialists in aircraft building research institutes, were able to modernize. Thank God, we managed to agree with Russia on the supply of D-30KP - they were decommissioned from us back in the 80s, but this is better than the Tu-16 engines of the Stalin era. The Khun-6K can carry cruise missiles (copies of the Soviet X-55), but for 30 years they have not developed a miniature nuclear warhead - this requires special technologies for producing charges. All attempts to steal or buy them failed - Hu Jintao still begged from us, offered billions, but the Kremlin refused.

[nickname7]

China has one junk

But they have an uptrend, and the Russian Federation has stagnated.

[Sarmat Sanych]

What is the nafik "uptrend"?) Read what has been written to the khaanan above and do not fantasize.

[RVAPatriot]

Where at least something is shown that Russia does not have? We can also show dummies, but we prefer to show the current technique

[Vadim237]

Judging by this DF 17 - this is a real dummy, there are no orientation engines and this plumage will tear off at hypersonic speeds of more than 10 max - since this is a planning ballistic missile warhead and this nose warhead must have a blunt nose to dissipate heat flux, to reduce the heating area of ​​the body .

[Sarmat Sanych]

That's right, Vadim!
By the way, the fables about the df-41 were sorted out on dozens of forums, they are even inferior to the Topol-M, not to mention the Yars (I generally keep quiet about the RS-28). The Russians have more advanced solid fuel, missile body materials, higher parameters of the specific energy perfection of thermonuclear warheads, the Chinese have not yet reached the old Soviet level of 100 kt per 100 kg of warheads.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Oh don't lie !! All the equipment in the parade is the Kantemirov’s division .... Students of military schools and students of the academies are marching ... The equipment of the Lipetsk aviation center and from Moscow airdromes flies

[SOF]

Quote: haanan

China has technology, the military budget is five times bigger than ours, cheap labor

.... they also know how to put two SIM cards and put a TV in a lighter ....

Quote: haanan

Your dictum is more suitable for us, we are collecting all the equipment from the troops for the parade

...

...

[SOF]

... what a wild club of lovers of "communist" China has appeared here ....
.... with one amendment - this is the second country in the world in the number of billionaires after americosia ..... does not fit somehow ... with a bright future .....
.... and visual associations (in terms of the similarity of almost everything) of the military part of this carnival procession with parades of the Soviet Union, only once again confirms my thesis about dual-lighter TV lighters .....

[Max she]

Cheap labor is in Russia, not in China. Chinese hard workers on non-military shoe factory receive from 40 to 110 thousand for our rubles.

[Vadim237]

And a pension of $ 75 - they have prices higher than ours for everything.

[Far East]

Come on, about the Chinese "technology! Why so much (hardware) on the parade! Who was surprised by what ?!"

[Sarmat Sanych]

I agree Azazelo. Some wagons, took out from the house everything that was, it looks like Kim’s parade, only more money. Where is the flight of hundreds of helicopters? Yes, and before the Russian coinage another 30 years to train.

[Aaron Zawi]

China is the undoubted superpower of the 21 century. Military power covers up its economic expansion, which today is much more effective than direct aggression.

[Lexus]

Aaron
Here's what nonsense "hurts my eyes"

A lot of young people feel that they will not have a future because of the power of China
- quotes Politico the words of one of the residents of Hong Kong.

Not the power of the state deprives people of the future, but, on the contrary, weakness.

[Kontrik]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

China is the undoubted superpower of the 21 century. Military power covers up its economic expansion, which today is much more effective than direct aggression.

But to Israel, to China as to the moon .. heh heh .. The world lobby is HERE FORCE! Is that so Aron? You can bankrupt China one day ..)))) Russia the Chinese like inviting to Syria ... But they are terribly afraid of your presence there .. and modestly refused hehe

[GibSoN]

China is the undoubted superpower of the 21 century. Military power covers up its economic expansion, which today is much more effective than direct aggression.

It’s hard to argue with the essence, that's exactly the case. Another is worrying! Israel switched to the side of China? Betrayal of the USA ?! Nothing personal against Israel as a whole and I have no Jews in particular .. But such a koment winds precisely such conclusions.

[Honest Citizen]

A lot of young people feel that they will not have a future because of the power of China

- quotes Politico the words of one of the residents of Hong Kong.

We can safely add that due to the power of China and in the United States themselves, it becomes uncomfortable to sleep ...

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Honest Citizen

We can safely add that due to the power of China and in the United States themselves, it becomes uncomfortable to sleep ...

Undoubtedly. But it is also clear that the military and economic leaders of mankind are always changing. One reassures the United States that the ocean separates them from China, which in itself is not enough.

[Tusv]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

One reassures the United States that the ocean separates them from China, which in itself is not enough.

I don’t know, I don’t know, Aron For Us, for example, the Ocean is just a puddle for means of attack. About the Chinese means of attack, in particular ICBMs, we do not know anything, which is hardly calming the Yankees

[Sarmat Sanych]

Tusv, what do you not know about the Chinese ICBMs?) They have extremely weak ICBMs, they carry only small tactical warheads of 20-50 kt each, as I don’t know now, but until 2014, unsuccessful tests of the same J-2 reached 50%. For America, they pose a danger not much more than baby Eun, in fact there is no triad, the Chinese strategic nuclear forces are weaker than the French. And the Russian ones are dumbed at least 6 times in power and 30 years in quality.

[Tusv]

Data 20 years ago. Then Trump from the INF Treaty then left. Well, of course we are not guilty. Otherwise, we will be offended and Congress will not give money to fight China. Well, finally, in contrast to some kind of China, a trade war of 25-50 gigabytes has been declared. We can finally destroy both easily, but I would like to arrange such a war with the USA and China But for now, the Russian Empire is at the beginning of the "past" path. And amazing. Both states are our neighbors. And in connection with the modern doctrine, the GDP is criminally quarreling with neighbors

[Sarmat Sanych]

Tusv, was on vacation, only noticed the message. The data is fully relevant for the 2014th year. And the rest, say the truth.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Honest Citizen

We can safely add that due to the power of China and in the United States themselves, it becomes uncomfortable to sleep ...

Undoubtedly. But it is also clear that the military and economic leaders of mankind are always changing. One reassures the United States that the ocean separates them from China, which in itself is not enough.

Believe me, after today's premiere of the DF-41 mobile solid-fuel ICBM with a range of 12000 km -14000 km and even new SLBMs that were carried on tractors, this no longer calms them.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Believe me, after today's premiere of the DF-41 mobile solid-fuel ICBM with a range of 12000 km -14000 km and even new SLBMs that were carried on tractors, this no longer calms them.

In China, this is not the first ICBMs. So they have not been afraid of a nuclear strike for a long time. But the fact that in the Old World the only force that can resist China in years through 25 will be India is a fact.

[Tusv]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

The Old World, the only force that can resist China in 25 years will be India is a fact.

In 25 years, to create your own air defense to dominate the Old World and your Triad in just a quarter of a century? With the mind would not get off. Not well, of course, if Russia dies. But Putin talked about new weapons on old physical principles and terrified the rest of humanity. And it works. Two years ago, he announced the creation of a new weapon based on new physical principles.
Does it scare you? I'm not there. Will our partners be able to do this? The big question. So before the struggle between China and India it will be far from being under the protectorate of Plombir from Russia

[snake]

Quote: Tusv

But Putin said

Putin said a lot of things ... says ... and will say ...

Quote: Tusv

on old physical principles

What new principles have appeared? Something I missed hiking ...

[Tusv]

Quote: serpent

Putin said a lot of things ... says ... and will say ...

They all say something, but they believe who is right And they believe in this world only Putin

[snake]

Quote: Tusv

and whom they believe in the rights ... And they believe in this world only Putin

According to recent polls, approximately 33% of Russians believe Putin. And they believe in the world not only Putin, but all sorts of scammers and swindlers. They, too, are damn convincing ... Especially when they promise ̶н̶е̶ ̶п̶о̶в̶ы̶ш̶а̶т̶ь̶ ̶п̶е̶н̶с̶и̶о̶н̶н̶ы̶й̶ ̶в̶о̶з̶р̶а̶с̶т̶ maximum profit with minimum costs.

[Vadim237]

Weapons in which these physical principles have not been previously applied: beam weapons microwave, electromagnetic, plasma, etc.

[snake]

Quote: Vadim237

Weapons in which these physical principles have not previously been applied

But this does not mean that these principles did not exist before? What are these "new" principles?

[SSR]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

One reassures the US that the ocean separates them from China

It seems to me that this does not bother the United States at all, another thing bothers them, many countries are increasingly cooperating with the Chinese giving them large-scale investment projects, financial flows are increasingly shifting to Chinese exchanges, and generally a picture is emerging that China is a direct threat to the dollar and the army is a guardian of their financial expansion, we simply have our protection and they also have the protection of their economic expansion.
PS.
Only today I was surprised that a large number of materials for aerospace, Europe and the United States are purchased in China.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

And then, who is Trump waging a trade war against?

Against its main trading partner. They enrich each other well and we don’t understand their showdown, the scale is not the same.

[evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru]

There is an option for the United States to - China and Russia. When we say, USA, we mean the so-called ,, world behind the scenes ,, which settled there and feels great in this country. But not the hardworking people of America. It was the nonhumans from the “World backstage” who invented and ORGANIZED, for example, the Second World War. Choosing rivals in advance - Gnrmaniyu and Russia. They began the planned preparation for the next world massacre in January 1930 ... So it is now. Perhaps the opponents are already ,, appointed ,,. ,, Muscovites and guests of the capital, already wonder, invite large military contingents of the PLA to the territory of Russia. Allegedly, demonstrating something, to NATO adversaries,. Remember the famous question of a certain deputy of the Russian Empire? Such a tart question a hundred years ago: ,, Is this stupidity or betrayal （not verbatim） ?, Invited PLA connections may one day remain for a long time, Not the fact that the weak and dependent state of the Republic of Kazakhstan （,, Russia Capitalist ,,) will have the opportunity to independently carry out arrogant , self-confident and strong ,, guests ,,. I don’t know how they sleep in the USA. And the country of Russia, to sleep, just once

[kventinasd]

Quote: evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru

Invited PLA formations may one day remain for a long time, It is not a fact that the weak and dependent state of the Republic of Kazakhstan （,, Russia Capitalist ,,) will have the opportunity to independently conduct arrogant, self-confident and strong ,, guests ,,.

When the Chinese were strong, don’t remind? They were always conquered by someone. All of their current "military power" has never been tested in combat conditions, and this whole circus with a parade is nothing more than a demonstration in front of its people. The Americans absolutely don't care if they want to destroy China, they will do it even without the use of military force.

[Dikson]

That's what we gave them Damansky ...

[Nick]

Quote: Honest Citizen

We can safely add that due to the power of China and in the United States themselves, it becomes uncomfortable to sleep ..

Hmm ... Well, you just noticed.

[nikolai.kolya]

This is something! Impressive!

[To be or not to be]

nikolai.kolya (Nikolai) Today, 18:09
+4
This is something! Impressive! "
Impressive! .. Strong parade ..
Especially "Dong Fung" - "East wind" or "wind from the East."

Here are just "The meteorological direction shows which side the wind is blowing from, and the aeronautical direction shows where. So the east wind blows to the west."

[faterdom]

Well done, the Chinese. Whatever the unworthy and democratic mumble there, China knows for sure: once again, no one will destroy the free 30 million Chinese. It will lose no less, if it survives at all.
This also applies to all kinds of Americans and Japanese.
And we should also treat China with respect, since we are the keepers of relics dear to them - Lenin's Mausoleum and the cruiser Aurora. This is our Mecca and Medina for the faithful Chinese.
This is me to those fidgets that everyone strives to eliminate the Mausoleum.

[Lexus]

It is surprising that Lenin's "bearers" from the Mausoleum for some reason in every possible way disown their kinship with the horses in the neighboring country, which demolished monuments to him and the Soviet commanders. A kind of midgets who finally defeated Gulliver after he died.

[Geo]

Quote: faterdom

It’s me for those fidgets that everyone strives to eliminate the Mausoleum

Keep the mausoleum for the Chinese? Are you seriously?

[Nick]

Quote: Geo

Quote: faterdom

It’s me for those fidgets that everyone strives to eliminate the Mausoleum

Keep the mausoleum for the Chinese? Are you seriously?

Store for yourself first. This is the history of Russia above all. Know and remember your past so as not to lose the future. And the forgetful always tread on the same rake.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: faterdom

And we should also treat China with respect, since we are the keepers of relics dear to them - Lenin's Mausoleum and the cruiser Aurora. This is our Mecca and Medina for the faithful Chinese.

You have forgotten Stalin. The coffin which Khrushchev proposed to send to Beijing. Due to veneration

[Dikson]

The range of missiles and UAVs is impressive of course .. Which, given the pace of the construction of the fleet and aviation, China will still give everyone a light ...

[Adimius38]

frankly, it’s impressive where Russia is there ..... another ten years and we will lag behind although we are already lagging in many areas. China is a superpower and that is a fact. They will copy and improve the latest Soviet and Russian developments and we will have nothing to compete with, and having economic power, they will bypass us in everything.

[Kontrik]

Chinese military parades are certainly the best .. in the world .. Everything is beautiful and impressive .. But they lack the main thing, the charisma of the "Spirit of Victory" .. And this is the main thing in such parades
I hope they have enough historical memory and common sense so that all this is not sent to Russia ..? It’s better to be friends with Russians, even reluctantly ... hehe
We have killed more than one world empire and it is better to listen to Russia.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Kontrik

But they lack the main thing, the charisma of the "Spirit of Victory" .. And this is the main thing in such parades

And I believe that the "Spirit of Victories" should not be draped with different materials, one should not be ashamed of portraits of the Victory Marshals and the name of the Commander-in-Chief, and the Victory Banner itself should be the same color with the state flag, and not with the banners of ROA Vlasov ...
This is my opinion about the Spirit of Victories ...

[Kontrik]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: Kontrik

But they lack the main thing, the charisma of the "Spirit of Victory" .. And this is the main thing in such parades

And I believe that the "Spirit of Victories" should not be draped with different materials, one should not be ashamed of portraits of the Victory Marshals and the name of the Commander-in-Chief, and the Victory Banner itself should be the same color with the state flag, and not with the banners of ROA Vlasov ...
This is my opinion about the Spirit of Victories ...

In principle, I agree with you, but the victories of the Russian rati were under different flags, and the essence was the same. We must not forget this!
The red flag, of course, certain forces in Russia and in the world are trying to trample and spit on .. But they completely fail to ..

Generational memory, the main connection to keep .. And remember the historical role of Russia and the Russian people worldwide.

[Nick]

Quote: ROSS 42

And I believe that "Spirit of Victory" should not be draped with different materials, one should not be ashamed of portraits of the Victory marshals and the name of the Commander-in-Chief,

RIGHT!

Quote: ROSS 42

Victory Banner should be the same color with the national flag, and not with the banners of the ROA Vlasov ...

The fact that Vlasov chose the colors of the Flag of Russia, which existed since the time of Peter the Great, is not a reason to fight with these colors, the French also use these colors, and the German fascists used red color on their flags. Do not cancel the Victory Banner on this basis.

[Alexander Ra]

Quote: Kontrik

charisma "Spirit of Victory" ... common sense

The Chinese are purposefully trying to copy our Spirit. In our country, the "Spirit of Victory" is thoroughly blurred and replaced. We would only have enough common sense to assess China's military capabilities.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Alexander Ra

evaluate China’s military capabilities.

And what are their military capabilities? Not a single victory in the entire history of China.
What is shown on TV is 90% plastic layouts for a stupid public and no more. With weapons exporting less than Germany, they confirm the fact that no one in the world needs it except the Chinese themselves. There is no hypersound and other high-tech products in no, otherwise all the world media would have stood on their ears. Let for a start they stop plagiarizing and start to really produce something worthwhile that will interest potential buyers.

[Alexander Ra]

They are 10 times more than us - is this not about military capabilities? They have expansionism, defeatist behavior prevails in us. They have growth and collecting, we have a sale and washing out of everything and everything. Blaming them plagiarism is naive. Interesting - China's exports are almost 5 times more than the Russian Federation (2018).

[Vadim237]

Interesting - China's exports are almost 5 times more than the Russian Federation (2018). - According to consumer goods, yes, but the quality of most of these products is bullshit.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Alexander Ra

They are 10 times more than us - is this not about military capabilities?

However, this did not stop Japan from posing all of China more than once.

[rocket757]

Big, rich country. Well armed!
Because they do not bite!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: rocket757

Big, rich country. Well armed!
Because they do not bite!

And then, who is Trump waging a trade war against?

[rocket757]

Trade showdowns, in terms of their impact, can become cool, highly destructive, but this is not a couscous, so shob is real, to "blood".
Not war in its direct definition.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: rocket757

Trade showdowns, in terms of their impact, can become cool, highly destructive, but this is not a couscous, so shob is real, to "blood".
Not war in its direct definition.

Well yes. The expression "trade war" is.

[rocket757]

And what does it mean? Competition without rules, or by the rules that try to establish one of the parties .... nothing more.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: rocket757

And what does it mean? Competition without rules, or by the rules that try to establish one of the parties .... nothing more.

The term says it all. Where is it even easier ?!

[Nick]

Quote: rocket757

Not war in its direct definition

Well, a war against Russia, in its direct definition, will not start either.

[rocket757]

Quote: Nick

Well, a war against Russia, in its direct definition, will not start either.

Against Russia, several other methods are used, a whole bunch .... everything is very cool, just skerking in full.

[APASUS]

A lot of young people feel that they will not have a future because of the power of China

The more powerful the country is today, the more dogs the Western media will hang on it. Now they have reached China. Now they will take up human rights, freedoms, and so on, economically the West cannot oppose China.

[ilya63]

I looked at all the photos! As if in the subway, I walked into a tray with Chinese toys, it looks just awful !!!

[Operator]

Hypersonic drone "", - supersonic, judging by the wing area.

[Mikhail Drabkin]

-Well done Chinese in fact! Power! Do without announcements and discussions. Without speeches about glasnost and perestroika, without breaking the time.
-Preserved the advantages of socialism and organically use the advantages of capitalism in one country!
—- The West will bite the teeth together in anger and envy and hopes for the Maidan of youth in Hong Kong, which has “few opportunities because of the power of China” - this must be thought of connecting opportunities with weakness!
-—But they studied with the USSR!
-Respect elders, elders and teachers. Knowledge and skills. Old age as a source of life experience and wisdom.
—- The authorities of officials are combating corruption with confiscation and the death penalty.
—- And Tinanmen - according to Confucius: if persuasion, positive examples and lessons “as it should and why” ... “what is good and what is bad” do not work - quick, massive and revealing punishment. They do not need another “cultural revolution” and civil war, and they have been taught a lot.

[Izotovp]

Something is not heard of "experts" about cartoons and cardboard layouts. Or is it just about our technology that you can say that.
And the Chinese technology, in my opinion, is often far from declared.

[Ironcity]

Something may correspond, something not, but China has a real production base that makes high-tech products, unlike ... Just look at the Chinese electronics, cars, machine tools, tools and much more. It may and is lagging behind the most modern Western models, but not so much. So what could be the reason to believe that the Ketais are not able to weapons? To me personally, looking at this parade becomes somewhat frustrating, and looking at the cartoons of a fairytale is ridiculous.

[Tamparu]

"Not with s s, we will break through !!!"
I apologize for our saying, but ...
Best regards!

[Ironcity]

Well, thanks, reassured, all doubts by hand removed

[Vadim237]

Especially CNC machines.

[Nick]

Quote: Ironcity

Personally, looking at this parade, it’s kind of annoying to me,

Well, not all are sailors. Alas.

[Tavi]

It seems that now all attention from us will be thrown to China ... they will impose sanctions on them because of the Skripals.

[Ross xnumx]

Impressive One can only hope for good neighborliness, because in conventional types of weapons we lose the 750 000 000 Army of China (for full mobilization).
There is no feeling of fear. There is only some kind of longing for the past tense. There is a hypothetical belief that China will not bend either the American trade wars and sanctions, or any functionaries of their PACE or WADA ...

[Izotovp]

Optimists study English, pessimists-Chinese, and realists-AKM and RPG .... an old saying, but relevance does not decrease.

[ProkletyiPirat]

Today, retaliation technologies are so advanced that the number of troops and the entire super-duper industry of ANY country does not play a special role because they can be destroyed in the blink of an eye.

[Nick]

Quote: ROSS 42

Impressive One can only hope for good neighborliness, because in conventional types of weapons we lose the 750 000 000 Army of China (for full mobilization).

This is you bent. No one has yet managed to put under arms more than half of their population. But the one hundred million Chinese army will impress anyone.

[Vadim237]

It’s good to talk about the army — which the Chinese cannot fight at all — only with ours in 69 and at the end of the 70s with Vietnam — in both cases, the PLA rounded off completely, in the second they lost almost 400 tanks.

[Lesorub]

China has grown powerfully in armaments, both quantitatively and qualitatively, hypersound, ICBMs of long, medium and short range, here at a minimum it is necessary to think about our own armed forces and their potential!

[Vadim237]

Hypersound - a task for China is even more difficult than creating a jet engine with a motor resource of more than 500 hours - the second task for them is now unattainable, but the first is more than just that.

[Demon_is_ada]

Most likely, planning hypersonic blocks are not such an impossible task for them. But the classic hypersonic low-flying rocket is comparable to an increase in engine life. If the block can be otmazyvatsya by sublimation coatings, the second goals require heat-resistant high-strength materials ... and this is still a problem ...

[Vadim237]

One heat-shielding coating on the hypersonic gliding unit does not otmazatsya, you still need the right aerodynamic glider, control systems and much more. The task is much more complicated than creating a jet engine in all directions, including heat-resistant materials and alloys.

[Lesorub]

Quote: Vadim237

Hypersound - a task for China is even more difficult than creating a jet engine with a motor resource of more than 500 hours - the second task for them is now unattainable, but the first is more than just that.

Many specialists and engineers from the post of the Soviet space work in China, or in China, I do not think that there is a vacuum with "brains" in the Celestial Empire now!

[Vadim237]

For 30 years, an engine with a resource of more than 500 hours in China has not been created, just like turbo-generators - this is the question of brains.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Lesorub

here at least you need to think about your own armed forces and their potential!

We and the 10 part of the triad are enough to erase all of China from the world map.

[Nick]

Quote: kventinasd

We and the 10 part of the triad are enough to erase all of China from the world map.

Enough of course, and not just to China. But why?

[Zaurbek]

We do not have some positions

[Vadim237]

Which ones - and do Russia need them at all?

[Zaurbek]

Some are very, some are not very. But the fact

[Alexander X]

Well done Chinese. Such a huge leap in technology, types of weapons and their quantity in such a short time. What is the reason for their success? In communist ideology and the leading role of the Chinese Communist Party? In almost a ten-fold excess of population over the population of the Russian Federation? I remember how the Chinese, coming to our organization, even took blackboards with formulas and drawings that they brought to the classroom during lectures and took pictures. And mother and father (graduates of Bauman Moscow State Technical University) told how fanatically the Chinese learned from them ... I really want the situation in the Russian Federation to be no worse with the development of equipment and weapons ...

[Old Horseradish]

An impressive advertisement for the Chinese army. And now I would like to ask the zombies one question: where will this horde crawl with such a pile of iron? The zombies will answer in unison: "To America!"
No, America is kept by the ocean from the Chinese military. But Russia, it seems, is no longer kept. All this "happiness" is intended primarily for us. You can continue yelling "Hurray!"

[bars1]

Old Horseradish Well, you felt yourself in the shoes of the Baltic states, to whom everything seems!

[Vadim237]

"Hurray" you will yell when you find yourself in a madhouse - diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia with seizures "The Chinese are coming, I hear them outside the door."

[Dikson]

Why yell? We already have them, throughout Siberia and the Far East ..)) At the Krasnoyarsk airport, for example, ALL signs and signs are in three languages ​​.. Russian is small, English, and bright color is Chinese ... Well, Moscow then far .. There have not yet reached this ...))

[Vadim237]

And how many of them you have there - for a permanent residence of 10000 maximum, all the rest came to work and left in China now they pay more than in Russia.

[Nick]

Quote: Old Fuck

All this "happiness" is intended primarily for us. You can continue shouting "Hurray!"

You treat your diarrhea. I'll tell you a secret, China has some territorial graters with one and a half billion India, one hundred millionth Vietnam, one hundred and twenty millionth Japan, the main ally of which is the United States.
And Russia in this situation protects the rear of China. Well, who will destroy their own rear and put themselves in a position surrounded by enemies on all sides by a power.

[Dmitry Vyazmenskiy]

The SNF keeps us from everyone. Do not worry, this is not your headache, there are trained people for this!

[DPN]

It’s not bad if ONCE this technique didn’t go to Russia, it’s not for nothing that they are participating in Russian exercises on their equipment. If we have enough territory, sometimes even give out for the sake of PEACE, then the PRC is tense.

[Vadim237]

How everything goes and burns, from our nuclear arsenal.

[DPN]

Say thanks to JV Stalin, Beria and the USSR for this nuclear arsenal, it keeps us from burning together.

[beeper]

Interesting technique! Honestly, my eyes run away from such an impressive variety of strategic weapons, shock drones, electronic warfare systems and reconnaissance, not to mention armored vehicles, especially BMP planes for the Marine Corps!
Just as the Chinese authorities acted in Tiananmen with pro-Western zaprodan-extremists 30 years ago, it was necessary in 2013 to deal with pro-Western zaprodan-extremists on the Kiev Independence Square (historically Goat Swamp, which echoes this name with the historical Bolotnaya Square in Moscow, on which too, pro-Western zaprodantsy-parasites, also under the howling and groaning of the "universal" media, a karmically damned place with such names, any evil evil spirits suit the Sabbath! and many, many good hardworking Russian people, our compatriots, would have remained alive and well!

[Antares]

Quote: pishchak

it was necessary in 2013 to deal with pro-Western extremist sellers on the Kiev Independence Square

the impression that the Maidan is to blame for the fact that the Russian Federation is not the current China.
Although of course he revealed the inability of the Kremlin to control its loyal countries. But loyalty was profitably sold.
About China. The parade is of course in the style of the USSR.
That's what the life-giving economy does!
Idea, goal, work!

[Pavel57]

In many samples, foreign prototypes are visible, although there are original designs.

[Alexander Sharapov]

The Chinese parade opens the flag of the USSR _ for them it is like a guiding star, we betrayed and spat on it, and we pay for it

[atalef]

Quote: Alexandr Sharapov

The Chinese parade opens the flag of the USSR _ for them it is like a guiding star, we betrayed and spat on it, and we pay for it

What the hell is the flag of the USSR from?

[Moskovit]

The hammer and sickle flag is the flag of the Chinese Communist Party. I remember being there during the next congress. All the time I found myself thinking that I was in the USSR, since they hung everywhere))

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Kontrik

Tanks roll down the main street overlooking Tiananmen Square, the same route they took 30 years ago to crush democratic demonstrations

- writes the Washington Post.

However, how capitalism disfigured you. Which you only saw a small particle. He began to measure the world with money.
The states, Israel will be so bad that they never dreamed it, if they only swung at the economy of China. Now. Let's see what happens in 20 years. China has experienced inconvenience. He survived. What will the USA have? Will stand? I doubt it. Without Chinese electronics and electrical engineering, everything and everyone will die.

[voyaka uh]

"The states, Israel will be so bad that they never dreamed of it, if they just aim at the Chinese economy" ////
----
What does it mean to wave? Israel does not sway in any way. Not that weight category.
And the States wage ordinary capitalist battles for tariffs, quotas, customs duties,
the benefits of import-export with a country of an equal scale economy.
And China can survive the inconvenience, and the States can. Both countries are flexible and
innovative. Able to transfer production from country to country, dramatically
change the structure of industry and the market.

[Rostislav]

A lot of ICBMs passed, however. Is there enough ammunition for all carriers?

[Nick]

Quote: Rostislav

A lot of ICBMs passed, however. Is there enough ammunition for all carriers?

Tons of TNT are enough for some purposes.

[Old26]

Minor additions and corrections
1. ATGM HJ-10. As stated by the commentator, this complex is intended not only for hitting tanks, but also for hitting low-flying targets

2, SAM HQ-6A. Not exactly. Machines marked on TPK HQ-6A - this is part of the anti-aircraft missile and artillery complex HQ-6A. Specific name of these launchers HQ-64

(photo from the 2015 parade).

The second part of this HQ-6A complex is the artillery 7-barrel 30 mm LD-2000

3. Shipborne air defense HQ-10. No. This is an artillery mount LD-2000 anti-aircraft missile and artillery mount air defense systems HQ-6A

4. But this launcher, or rather its layout, shown at the parade in 2015 is the ship’s HQ-10. Although ship systems in China have an index Hhq and it would be more correct to call it HHQ-10. At this parade she was shown briefly. Literally second frame with this launcher

5. KR YJ-18 and YJ-18A (“ship-to-ship”, “PL-ship”)
Well, it is very similar to our "Caliber" with a supersonic combat stage 3M54

6. Hypersonic drone. Similar devices in the world have not yet been announced. These are actually supersonic devices. Hypersonic apparatus - latest photos with the DF-17 missile system

7. PKKR YJ-12B.. At the 2015 parade, this complex was shown without TPK.

The most "secret", causing a lot of controversy is the complex with a cruise missile DF-100. What it is is not yet clear.

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

And further in the text, too lazy to paint plus what kind of parade is it without flights of hundreds of planes in Russia

Actually, the air part of the parade was also

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Believe me, after today's premiere of the DF-41 mobile solid-fuel ICBM with a range of 12000 km -14000 km and even new SLBMs that were carried on tractors, this no longer calms them.

I agree that the new ICBM is the DF-41. But the JL-2 SLBM is by no means new. She stands on Chinese missile boats. It’s just that they’ve never taken her to the parade before.

Quote: McLarenFly

it would be interesting to learn more about ICBMs DF-17 and KR DF-100, I think this is an absolute novelty of the Chinese military-industrial complex, I had not heard anything about them before ..

The DF-17 is not an ICBM, but a BMD. Data on it is not yet publicly available. But what is the DF-100 - really interesting

Quote: ProkletyiPirat

Today, retaliation technologies are so advanced that the number of troops and the entire super-duper industry of ANY country does not play a special role because they can be destroyed in the blink of an eye.

The Chinese, by the way, are going to reduce the army by 300 people.

[Ironcity]

Alloy wheels on 1m photo on a military vehicle delivered ... And a 2-seater flying moped for the MTR, a miracle how good! On such a thing to fly to the battlefield without getting rid of it (especially knowing that it is Ketai) - you can already give "for courage". The Chinese special forces are severe.

[Old26]

Quote: Alexandr Sharapov

The Chinese parade opens the flag of the USSR _ for them it is like a guiding star, we betrayed and spat on it, and we pay for it

The first flag is the CCP party flag. Unlike the Soviet one, larger sickle and hammer. The second carried the national flag of the PRC, the third - the flag of the armed forces of the PRC

Quote: Rostislav

A lot of ICBMs passed, however. Is there enough ammunition for all carriers?

Well, not so much: DF-5B, DF-31A, DF-31AG, DF-41. the rest are all BDSD. On these ICBMs, special ammunition stands. Although on missiles with rgch and tactical power (25-90 ct)

[faterdom]

Quote: Geo

Keep the mausoleum for the Chinese? Are you seriously?

By and large - for humanity as such .... And for themselves, too. However, who am I in front of ...

[voyaka uh]

Well done, that large white painted stamps of each model of military equipment.
Do not guess what kind of rocket?
In general, they showed: China is now the "big brother". And who wants to be friends with them,
invited to the "little brothers".
The parade, I think, is intended for the countries of Southeast Asia.
To know who is now the boss in the house!

[alexmach]

DF-17 So small and already ICBM? yes, comrades can

[Shraik]

Quote: Alexander X

Well done Chinese. Such a huge leap in technology, types of weapons and their quantity in such a short time. What is the reason for their success? In communist ideology and the leading role of the Chinese Communist Party? In almost a ten-fold excess of population over the population of the Russian Federation? I remember how the Chinese, coming to our organization, even took blackboards with formulas and drawings that they brought to the classroom during lectures and took pictures. And mother and father (graduates of Bauman Moscow State Technical University) told how fanatically the Chinese learned from them ... I really want the situation in the Russian Federation to be no worse with the development of equipment and weapons ...

The reason for China's success is that the West has nurtured them to the peak of the USSR. He moved production there, shared part of the technology and opened its markets for them. And the Chinese do not be fools, were able to properly dispose of all this.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: voyaka uh

"The states, Israel will be so bad that they never dreamed of it, if they just aim at the Chinese economy" ////
----
What does it mean to wave? Israel does not sway in any way. Not that weight category.
And the States wage ordinary capitalist battles for tariffs, quotas, customs duties,
the benefits of import-export with a country of an equal scale economy.
And China can survive the inconvenience, and the States can. Both countries are flexible and
innovative. Able to transfer production from country to country, dramatically
change the structure of industry and the market.

I wonder what kind of fig many threw dirty, poorly qualified production in third world countries? Well, is it not in order to purify one's own nature and use cheap labor? Move closer to the sources of raw materials? It seems like it brought tremendous profit. The reverse transfer of what was thrown back is profitable? Colossal?

Moving production home, where workers get many times more .... Explain. I do not see flexibility. I see the desire to conserve within the country. Yes, loafers will probably be fewer. But the price is great.

[riwas]

The main weapon of China is naturally not shown. This is a gradual seizure of foreign territories with the help of their capital and the settlement of the Chinese. No need to go far - our Far East.

[Ruslan_1976]

And it seems to me that there is an expansion to Africa. If they conquer it, it will at least provide them with growth for several decades. I went nuts just when I started to read about the population of African countries. They would be cheap to push them all the goods and everything.

[Dmitry Vyazmenskiy]

Quote: Greenwood

Quote: Nick

Bulk too ... Foreign agent.

I agree about Gorbachev. Again I ask about Navalny, does he occupy government posts, does he affect the country's legislation? He's just a journalist and a blogger, so how sideways is he here?

What the hell is a journalist ?! The small thief was not yet given hands. And now they will add foreign grants, I think, too, will soon bring to sin!

[shark]

and the boy grew up ....

[Kostadinov]

Miller, you know little China. There, the annual outflow of capital is more than half a trillion dollars, all the children of the partelite (up to one) have Canadian and British passports, Canada even last year threatened to publish Old if the Celestial Empire does not stop coming, they shut up). In each major Chinese state-owned enterprise, the conditional Sechin set up by the CP of China sits and raises billions of dollars for himself and his associates, just recently they found 13,5 tons of gold at one house, people seemed to have leaked.

1. The outflow of capital beats only in very wealthy and highly developed countries which have a lot of capital. The outflow of capital leads to an influx of nailed. There is no joy in Canada from the influx of capital.
2. And who, in your opinion, should control the national capital abroad "? The oligarchs in the service of the West or the party ruling the country?"
3. And who should sit in state-owned enterprises? Of course, the representative of the Communist Party and of course he raises billions for the party and then they go to the state budget as a parish. Under socialism, the Communist Party’s power cannot be stolen for such money. They found gold - as you yourself noticed. But the oligarchs under capitalism are rowing for themselves and gold cannot be found and returned.

Particular excitement caused the death of a demonstrator, who was allegedly shot dead by police.

The demonstrator didn’t die in kotoria, he was shot by a policeman - he’s alive and I hope he will live for many years in prison. Because he, along with several comrades, attacked and ate to kill this very policeman - everything is on the video.

[Kostadinov]

Quote: voyaka uh

In general, they showed: China is now the "big brother". And who wants to be friends with them,
invited to the "little brothers".
The parade, I think, is intended for the countries of Southeast Asia.
To know who is now the boss in the house!

The PRC's relations with other states have never been hit and today there is no place for "older" and "younger" brothers. They only have "friends" and others. This has not changed since the days of Mao.

[Pavel57]

As a result of this civil-military construction, Pakistan's external debts grew so much that Islamabad lost the ability to pay on them and turned to the IMF for urgent help. Most loans come naturally from China, which is not going to forgive anything even to its most important strategic ally, only enslaves it even more. This is Beijing's style; there are never exceptions for anyone.

https://www.vpk-news.ru/articles/52736?utm_source=politobzor.net

[Hort]

clone attack)

zs the hypersonic drone is in doubt. You can also drag a model of an imperial destroyer from "Star Wars" on a parade and say that it is a unique development)

[Kostadinov]

Quote: Pavel57

Most loans come naturally from China, which is not going to forgive anything even to its most important strategic ally, only enslaves it even more. This is Beijing's style; there are never exceptions for anyone.
https://www.vpk-news.ru/articles/52736?utm_source=politobzor.net

1. The most important and closest ally for China is not Pakistan. They have a different system, religion, etc.
2. Debts of China, too, no one forgave. The USSR did not forgive anything to China and it paid everything.
3. enslaves the one which forgives debts in exchange for independence.
4. The PRC donated to Pakistan a nuclear warhead design for a ballistic missile in 1980.

[501 Legion]

cool layouts showed

[Rocj]

Mom darling! how many deadly weapons to destroy people, cities and our land (((
It is not comprehensible to the mind. (((Once upon a time it will still shoot, all over the globe ((((
And without it it is impossible, the state and people will be captured and destroyed.

[Vitaly Chizhikov]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

... And hype about Putin is enough to raise, this person really saved Russia by regaining superpower status, returning Russian lands, strengthening the Army, our strategic nuclear forces are the most powerful on the planet, we are the only ones on Earth who have hypersonic, nuclear-powered, nuclear unmanned weapons, we have rekoids for the whole the history of Russia grain harvests, poultry, pork production, our gold reserves almost $ 600 billion plus gold 2300 tons, we build 68% of the world's nuclear power plants, we have a record consumption of meat, fish and fruit per capita over 70 years of statistics in the country, one infant mortality rate of the lowest in the world (4,5 per 1000 births, this is 1,5 times lower than in the United States), the number of abortions in 2018 is minimal for half a century (including the period of the RSFSR), the list is huge.

1. We have the most miserable minimum wages, the meager life expectancy of men, a huge number of murders, a terrible number of divorces, the list is huge
2. Citizens of Russia win 99% (!!!) of cases in the ECHR against Russia, pensions are stolen, housing and communal services are disgusting, medicine and education have already died, security forces behave like occupiers, why do we need such a FALSE state ?! Who introduced the brain virus to you, that a superpower is the salvation of Russia, if it is a no brainer that degradation and the feudal empire are the death of Russia and not salvation
3. What are these achievements about billions and about gold from the king or the pharaoh there? Where is education and medicine, where is the level and duration of life, where at least "confidence in the future" as in the Scoop?
So wait, your authority will be responsible for everything.

[Sarmat Sanych]

The pan, average pensions and salaries in Russia are the highest in the CIS, 3 times higher than in your Okarain. Therefore, you gidnyuki here in millions and rush, already 5 million of your ukrogaster angry laborers. Russia now has the lowest level of violent mortality, alcoholism for at least half a century, as well as the highest life expectancy, even the UN and the World Health Organization confirm this. By the way, even the USA is ahead of us in the number of violent deaths per 1000 people. And this is not surprising, they have every week mass executions. Ukrobot, you are boring, your phrases are from a learned agitrop, the thought goes in a circle, your next vyser can be predicted. You already have one generator of stupid sayings - Pedalik, you do not hold out, train while.

[Ruslan_1976]

lucky that they won socialism. If democracy had won, and all of China began to develop like Taiwan and Hong Kong, the world would have come to an end

[Old26]

Quote: voyaka uh

Well done, that large white painted stamps of each model of military equipment.
Do not guess what kind of rocket?

That is yes. Especially knowing their designations, you can understand what it is

[xomaNN]

Powerful! The combination of the investment in recent decades of serious money in the defense industry, the conversion of ideas of foreign weapons and designs into their designs, a billion-dollar human resource - And here is the result. Not single samples, but serial missiles in regiments and divisions.