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The Ministry of Defense began the purchase of modernized T-90M tanks

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Ministry of Defense begins procurement of modernized tanks T-90M "Breakthrough-3". About this in an interview with the newspaper "A red star" said the commander of the Russian Army Oleg Salyukov.


The Ministry of Defense began the purchase of modernized T-90M tanks


Answering a question from journalists, the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces said that the Ministry of Defense was purchasing modern military armored vehicles, including the T-72B3 and T-90M tanks. At the same time, Salyukov did not specify how much T-90M was purchased and to which units they entered.

Modern T-72Б3М and Т-90М tanks, modernized infantry fighting vehicles BMP-2, BMP-3, armored personnel carriers BTR-82А are purchased for tank and motorized rifle divisions

- he said, adding that according to the results of this year, the share of modern weapons in the Ground Forces, taking into account the equipment planned for delivery, will amount to 60%.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense stated that the T-90M tanks will begin to enter the Russian army this year. The military department at the end of June this year entered into a state contract with UVZ for a major overhaul with the modernization of the T-90A tanks, bringing the T-90M to a view. The corporation said that this modernization will increase the combat capabilities of the tank. At the same time, the UVZ did not name the number of tanks that will undergo major repairs, although earlier plans were announced to upgrade at least 400 T-90 tanks already in the army to the T-90M level. The first batch of incoming T-90M weapons can be at least a battalion set.

The T-90М tank was developed as part of the Breakthrough-3 development work and is a deep modernization of the T-90 with increased combat and operational characteristics.

In the course of modernization, a new turret module with a 90-mm gun of increased survivability and accuracy was installed on the T-125M. A remote-controlled machine gun installation caliber 12,7-mm is installed on the turret. In addition, the new tank is equipped with a highly automated digital fire control system that provides search, recognition, auto-tracking and hitting targets.
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  1. Skubudu
    Skubudu 1 October 2019 11: 19
    +8
    No active protection
    1. Karabas
      Karabas 1 October 2019 11: 31
      +2
      No active protection

      It seems like it can be equipped like a T-90AM
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 1 October 2019 12: 52
        +4
        Quote: Karabas
        No active protection

        It seems like it can be equipped like a T-90AM

        Here are the main innovations.
        T-90M - modification of the T-90A. The key difference between the tank and the previous models is the tower module of a new design with multilayer armor, with ammunition storage located outside the fighting compartment and with a 125-mm 2A82-1M cannon, the same as that of the Armata tank.

        The T-90M is equipped with a highly automated Kalina fire control system, a remotely controlled anti-aircraft machine-gun mount with a 12,7-mm Kord MT machine gun. To protect against enemy fire, the tank is equipped with anti-cumulative lattice screens and a "Relikt" dynamic protection system. Crew comfort is improved by air conditioning.

        https://vpk.name/news/330645_teper_rossiiskie_tankistyi_budut_voevat_s_kondicionerom.html
        1. Karabas
          Karabas 1 October 2019 14: 22
          +4
          I read on another resource that can be equipped with AZ. In general, if you equip the AZ, you get a single tank, because infantry far from this need to stay. I think the modular approach is chosen correctly - to equip according to the situation. But the air conditioner is very good, all armored vehicles should be with them.
        2. frog
          frog 2 October 2019 15: 22
          0
          Sorry, do not explain
          with the deployment of ammunition outside the fighting compartment

          How's that?
          1. Bodipancher
            Bodipancher 3 October 2019 07: 59
            0
            In the niche behind the tower, you can see how long it is in the T-90M
    2. 210ox
      210ox 1 October 2019 11: 55
      +2
      What did you get? From the photo? Yes, it’s not observed. So in the photo there is a car for the exhibition, not the troops. However, we’ll hardly know what will go there.
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 1 October 2019 12: 51
        +1
        Yes, you know) they just won’t wear it anyway. torment unsubscribe then.
      2. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 1 October 2019 14: 16
        +3
        Duc Arena is additional mounted equipment. can be put, can be removed.
    3. YOUR
      YOUR 1 October 2019 16: 07
      +19
      20 years developed the T95. 152 mm cannon, uninhabited tower, crew one option 2 people, the second 3 people. The revolutionary engine is an X-shaped diesel 16 cylinder - 1700 hp. They abandoned it for some reason, began to develop the T14 for another 10 years. And the result is the troops T80 and T72. If you look, the T-90 is also a deep modernization of the T-72.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 1 October 2019 17: 12
        +6
        Quote: YOUR
        Thrown for some reason

        Due to cost and expediency at that point in time. The T-95, just like the Black Eagle, was innovative, but very expensive. T-14 is essentially an economy version of the T-95.
        Quote: YOUR
        And the result is the troops T80 and T72

        And in your 80-ku and 72-ku do not need to be upgraded? We have a total of 20 of thousands of them ... do you propose to melt? Today, it is one of the most modern, protected and sought-after tanks in the world.
        1. Edik
          Edik 2 October 2019 20: 54
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          T-14 is essentially an economy version of the T-95

          These are different projects and, in essence, the T-14 is not like a non-economical version! The T-95 could already be driven into the series, but the country was not economically ready for this! Over time, it has lost its relevance, now the common Nexus platform is relevant.
      2. EvilLion
        EvilLion 2 October 2019 08: 28
        0
        Probably because the T-95, most likely, was unworkable, like the vast majority of experimental tanks. Because they are experienced and stayed.
        1. Ehanatone
          Ehanatone 1 November 2019 11: 01
          +1
          "Probably because the T-95, most likely, was unworkable"
          It is quite capable of working, prototypes were created and it was necessary to allocate several million rubles for operational tests, but the new director of UVZ considered that he was more creative than all Soviet designers and the entire Soviet program for the development of tank construction "Improvement 88" and already threw billions to create armata .. .
          And then he was thrown out, but, alas, too late, the money was already spent, and the t-95 remained in the form of prototypes ...
          if you stayed ...
      3. Ehanatone
        Ehanatone 1 November 2019 10: 50
        +2
        "We have been developing the T20 for 95 years. A 152 mm cannon, an uninhabited tower, the crew of one variant is 2 people, the second is 3 people."
        Yes, according to the program "Improvement 88", then the system changed and the new director of UVZ ordered him to appoint Glavtanknyuk in an orderly manner - something like that appeared armata ...
  2. Azazelo
    Azazelo 1 October 2019 11: 19
    +4
    As time went by, the Chinese media started pouring mud on the T90, and our purchases just started. Coincidence???
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 October 2019 11: 41
      +7
      nahai klevashchut ..
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 1 October 2019 12: 59
      +4
      Copyists envy.
      1. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 4 November 2019 08: 38
        0
        To correctly copy, you need not only equipment, you need technologists who can understand all the subtleties of what they copy, materials, their composition, principles of manufacturing these materials, processing methods up to obtaining the finished product
  3. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 1 October 2019 11: 19
    +5
    Good luck with this upgrade program! drinks The year is far from over, and the tanks have gone.
  4. iConst
    iConst 1 October 2019 11: 25
    +1
    People, clarify - the fans sing different songs - some say that the combat unit is completely outside the fighting compartment, others that partially. How really?
    1. Alexey from Perm
      Alexey from Perm 1 October 2019 11: 33
      +3
      if removed from the limits, the design of the tower and the automatic loader has been fundamentally changed ...
      1. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 1 October 2019 20: 47
        +1
        This means another tower, how to shove something not shoved into the old one?
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 1 October 2019 11: 37
      +11
      Hardly all taken out. Perhaps only long BOPS were carried out, the rest there in AZ.
      Well, just by logic: why endure the OFS when they perfectly "lie" at the bottom of the tank, in the most protected part? But BOPS (possibly new BOPS), due to their length, do not fit in the AZ, they can be carried out beyond the tower. Moreover, there are not so many of them and it is necessary.
      1. 113262a
        113262a 1 October 2019 12: 38
        +2
        And therefore, nothing will remain of the AZ seven-two-mover! ))) Well, you can’t combine this system with serving from the tower! Unless by hand!
      2. Alexey from Perm
        Alexey from Perm 1 October 2019 20: 57
        +2
        in the case of detonation, the OFS, and not the BOPS, explode. Therefore, it is better to take them out for safety.
      3. Zefr
        Zefr 1 October 2019 20: 58
        -3
        And now what to do with the old towers?
        They still do not rust soon. Really cut
      4. English tarantas
        English tarantas 2 October 2019 10: 58
        +1
        The most protected part of the T-72 tank (common architecture with the T-90) is definitely not the bottom, in front of the NLD is skinny, I will not talk about the sides. But the fact that the crew is sitting in a "chair" of shells and powder charges is scary. On the same notorious Abrams, the ammunition rack in the vehicle body of 6 shells, despite the fact that it is better protected, is the first stage ammunition rack, an indicative moment.
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      6. TARSUS
        TARSUS 3 October 2019 00: 01
        +1
        By the end of 2019, fantasies did not advance beyond the new crowbars in the tower niche. There is an ordinary tank shelving and no more. Go down from heaven in the end. And then these people still tell what Abrams is, to put it mildly, a bad tank. : negative
    3. Flamberg
      Flamberg 1 October 2019 11: 38
      +5
      As far as I know, in the stern of the tower additional shells separated from the crew, the AZ remained under the tower.
    4. alexmach
      alexmach 1 October 2019 11: 40
      +2
      How really?

      Most likely, it has not been endured anywhere. There are several long shells that do not fit in the automatic loader and are stored in a niche + a bulkhead appeared separating the automatic loader from the fighting compartment.
      1. 113262a
        113262a 1 October 2019 12: 44
        +2
        Bulkhead from AZ? Vertically, or horizontally?))) Or will another scot jump out of the tower? Or are there unitary shots already lying there?
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 1 October 2019 12: 56
          +1
          Horizontally naturally. Maybe the word "bulkhead" is not appropriate here? "Paul" appeared in the fighting compartment separating it from AZ, that's what I meant. And the automatic loader has not gone anywhere, everything is there ...
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 1 October 2019 23: 03
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            "Paul" appeared in the fighting compartment separating it from AZ, that's what I meant.

            And not only the floor, but also additional "walls" of the AZ itself, protecting it from shrapnel and fire.
      2. Arthur 85
        Arthur 85 1 October 2019 14: 09
        +1
        And why a bulkhead if the BOPS won't explode? But OFZs lie at the bottom of the tank ... There is no way to put a bulkhead there.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 1 October 2019 16: 51
          +2
          Well, actually, to cover what lies at the bottom of the tank. BOPS won't explode? And the propellant charges in "paper" packaging?
          1. Arthur 85
            Arthur 85 1 October 2019 23: 10
            0
            Uh, I'm not entirely aware of how stacking works there in the aft niche of the tower, but it seems like the point is that when blown up, due to the bulkhead, the blast wave does not go inside the tank (or even they say that it, the niche "fires back"), but if there was an explosion in the automatic loader under the tower, that is, there is a bulkhead, if there is one, there is still little left of the tank. The only point of such a bulkhead is to protect it from shrapnel if the armor is pierced somewhere higher.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 1 October 2019 23: 51
              0
              The only point of such a bulkhead is to protect from splinters if the armor is pierced somewhere higher.

              And also sparks, burning fuels and lubricants and all that.
    5. Meliodous
      Meliodous 1 October 2019 11: 51
      +5
      AZ expanded, it now intermeddle long ops. And in the niche there is a box for additional bk like on the t-14, so as not to disperse additional shells and charges in the fighting compartment, as before.
      1. 113262a
        113262a 1 October 2019 20: 25
        0
        But how is it expanded? You won’t stretch the armored housing! Is it expanded inside? And where can I put the breech of the gun when loading? And how to get BK from a niche? Rutsami? In parts?
        1. Meliodous
          Meliodous 1 October 2019 22: 58
          +4
          About the armored housing it was written that the opening for the installation of the az was specially bored for a wider az (for long FSA). And outside on the armored hull like extra sheets welded.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 1 October 2019 23: 07
            +1
            Quote: Meliodous
            And outside on the armored hull like extra sheets welded.

            Almost 110 mm ...
            But what exactly is the additional protection of the AZ - from fragments and fire.
        2. Albert1988
          Albert1988 1 October 2019 23: 06
          +1
          Quote: 113262
          But how is it expanded? You won’t stretch the armored housing! Is it expanded inside? And where can I put the breech of the gun when loading? And how to get BK from a niche? Rutsami? In parts?

          Most likely re-organized - so longer shells are placed in it without increasing the diameter of the carousel itself.
    6. 5-9
      5-9 1 October 2019 14: 31
      0
      And what is the point of partially enduring it? The entire ammunition has been taken out, only 22 pieces in the MOH in the morning ... or AZ?
      1. 113262a
        113262a 2 October 2019 08: 40
        +1
        Considering that the commander (the gunner will have to reload the AZ) and turn a little (shield on the right, armor on the left), but this is done not on the move and with the cannon on the loading line, with the stabilizer turned off and the loading mode turned on, at that time the tank is like a battle tank the unit does not exist! Therefore, most likely in the annex of the tower, it’s just a transportable BC. A stupid box. And reloading is done classically, out of combat.
        1. 5-9
          5-9 2 October 2019 12: 35
          +1
          Well, yes - this is a BC carried with it. Previously, from the holes in different places of the case, too, you didn’t particularly recharge
    7. Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich
      Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich 2 October 2019 08: 23
      -1
      Part of the shells in the automatic loader is about 22 pieces, and those shells that do not enter there are now in a separate box. In tanks with AZ, those shells that did not enter the carousel were shoved in all the helmets where it was free. And in the t-90 m they are now in the box. Accordingly, the armored volume has increased the crew is not so crowded now
  5. parkello
    parkello 1 October 2019 11: 28
    +2
    good. movable tank, and well protected and weapons are not weak. Honestly, I envy. Well, it’s right that they began to supply ZVO in the first place. This dangerous tank direction had to be equipped with the best technology for a long time.
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 1 October 2019 11: 36
    0
    KAZ from a principle do not put or what?
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 October 2019 11: 40
      +1
      no, this, mabut, factory tests, weighed after
    2. Artemiy_2
      Artemiy_2 1 October 2019 12: 32
      -3
      because not ready yet
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 1 October 2019 12: 47
      -1
      why put it? active hostilities are not expected. even if they are included, they will simply remain in storage. It makes no sense to wear combat machines at the moment.
    4. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 1 October 2019 17: 49
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      KAZ from a principle do not put or what?

      You might think that in Israel KAZ is installed on every car .....
      How many tank divisions in Israel? 8? fifteen? Never mind..
      And how many were transplanted to Merkava Mk4? 3? 4? And on all KAZ ??
      A bunch of videos of shooting and hits from the anti-tank systems on Merkava, a bunch of videos with patrols and roadblocks, and in only one or two cases did I see KAZ.
      And how many divisions are there in Russia? Are you daring to what? .....
    5. Nestorych
      Nestorych 2 October 2019 10: 43
      -1
      So we have women give birth .... ((
    6. English tarantas
      English tarantas 2 October 2019 11: 07
      0
      It seems to me that KAZ does not put KAZ on Soviet / Russian tanks, not because we cabbage soup. And because our tanks are used a little differently. Our tanks were not created as an ambush RPG catcher, but as a breakthrough vehicle, and the easier it is to work with infantry, the cheaper and more reliable the whole structure is better. Besides DZ for what?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 2 October 2019 11: 18
        -4
        It is only necessary to retell the contents of your post to the enemy ATGM operators.
        Which usually shoot at tanks from 2-4 km.
        Like: "do not shoot at the T-90 tank, please. This is a special breakthrough tank. And it is covered by the infantry running next to the tanks. Look, you see, these small figures. And he has a DZ - your 150 mm rocket is useless against such a box" ...
        If you persuade you not to shoot, the tank is saved.
        1. English tarantas
          English tarantas 2 October 2019 20: 42
          0
          Funny, very funny. I don’t want to offend my friend’s good friend, but it looks like in AOI the soldier sees only his boots. Normal cover provides the detection of the positions of such things as the calculation of PU ATGM for kilometers. Also, does at least one KAZ protect against attacks from above? Also, probably a secret for you, but an attack involves movement, constant, with a constant search for shelters and dangerous places. It was your commanders (with all due respect) who lost several Merkav from the Cornets in the 2006th, it would seem that a tank in the desert, like a mobile car with excellent visibility, can be lost in the desert, where all the shelters are only on the hills, which, oh God, is visible? If you think that the main task of the tank and the units working with it is to wait for something that it can’t stand, it’s your tactics and doctrine, it’s our other one, and it’s difficult for KAZ to fit in, and if everything works, then change it . As for DZ, now it’s upsetting, you want to say modern DZ will not help the tank withstand ATGM, well, yes, the Arabs have only the old, why do you need new TTX.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 2 October 2019 21: 22
            -2
            "Merkav from Cornets, it would seem, a tank in the desert" ////
            ----
            You are the first to find the desert in Lebanon.
            Lebanon is a mountainous country, like the Caucasus, only the mountains are lower.
            A column of tanks fired rockets on a narrow mountain road.
            Between the shooters and the tanks there was a gorge.
            Well, and so on. DZ will help from RPG7, from Cornet - to a dead poultice.
            The enemy doesn’t give a damn how you THINKED to use tanks,
            the enemy is not fighting like the old generals were once trained in academies.
            The IDF ran into this more than once. And the Russians in Syria. And the Americans in Iraq.
            And KAZ is always useful and necessary.
  7. Nuclear_winter
    Nuclear_winter 1 October 2019 11: 39
    0
    The tower was already very healthy, although I am not special in this.
    1. Flamberg
      Flamberg 1 October 2019 11: 51
      +4
      The tower is essentially the same as on the T-90A. Just the volume was added by another DZ, plus at the stern a box was attached for storing part of the bk in a non-mechanized way ..
  8. Nestorych
    Nestorych 1 October 2019 11: 50
    -10
    Where are thousands of Armats by 2020?)
    1. 210ox
      210ox 1 October 2019 12: 01
      -8
      That you ask a stool question ..
      1. mark1
        mark1 1 October 2019 12: 10
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        That you ask a stool question ..

        So who is not at work, it’s a stool.
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 1 October 2019 12: 51
        +9
        Quote: 210ox
        That you ask a stool question ..

        For seven years now there has been no furniture maker in the Moscow Region - but all the same, all the negativity has been blamed on him. smile
    2. Artemiy_2
      Artemiy_2 1 October 2019 12: 22
      +2
      Stop clowning about 2000 breeds to breed. MO never talked about it
    3. 5-9
      5-9 1 October 2019 14: 33
      +5
      And who promised them when?
      Half a year of illnesses running with screams hde thousand Armat .... who so excited them?
      1. Lannan Shi
        Lannan Shi 1 October 2019 15: 13
        -4
        Quote: 5-9
        And who promised them when?

        By 2018, the Russian Armed Forces may receive a new tank based on the Armata heavy tracked platform. The new combat vehicle will replace the three main tanks of the Russian army at once: T-72, T-80 and T-90. Oleg Bochkarev, Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation, told TASS agency
        The Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation (MIC of Russia) is a permanent body established to organize state policy in the field of the military-industrial complex, military-technical support of the country's defense, state security and law enforcement.
        The composition of the commission (in accordance with the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of June 23, 2018 No. 362):
        Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich - President of the Russian Federation (Chairman of the Commission);
        Gerasimov, Valery Vasilievich - Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - First Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation;

        Quite specific gentlemen promised themselves. The truth is that our guarantor has problems with the execution of a word, it is no secret.
        1. FenH
          FenH 1 October 2019 15: 24
          +4
          Quote: Lannan Shi
          Quote: 5-9
          And who promised them when?

          By 2018, the Russian Armed Forces may receive a new tank based on the Armata heavy tracked platform. The new combat vehicle will replace the three main tanks of the Russian army at once: T-72, T-80 and T-90. Oleg Bochkarev, Deputy Chairman of the Board of the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation, told TASS agency
          The Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation (MIC of Russia) is a permanent body established to organize state policy in the field of the military-industrial complex, military-technical support of the country's defense, state security and law enforcement.
          The composition of the commission (in accordance with the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of June 23, 2018 No. 362):
          Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich - President of the Russian Federation (Chairman of the Commission);
          Gerasimov, Valery Vasilievich - Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - First Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation;

          Quite specific gentlemen promised themselves. The truth is that our guarantor has problems with the execution of a word, it is no secret.

          Well, where in your text does it say about thousands of armatures? Or is the native of the very far north not a reader, but a copy-paste?
          1. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi 1 October 2019 16: 21
            -6
            Quote: FenH
            Well, where in your text says about thousands of armatures?

            And 2300 - according to Sienko. Sounded almost simultaneously with the official nonsense about total reinforcement. A naive Chukchi young man ... To live to such posts and not understand the obvious. There is no money for Armata. And will not be. For starving oil workers need benefits. Starving bankers too. Without armatures and frigates, Russia can easily live. But without coins for Alekperov’s collection ... He will instantly die.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 1 October 2019 23: 09
              +3
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              And 2300 - according to Sienko.

              Which said exactly that UVZ type is ready to produce 2300 valves by 2020, IF the Ministry of Defense will give such an order ..
              And people picked up ...
              1. FenH
                FenH 2 October 2019 07: 09
                0
                Quote: Albert1988
                Quote: Lannan Shi
                And 2300 - according to Sienko.

                Which said exactly that UVZ type is ready to produce 2300 valves by 2020, IF the Ministry of Defense will give such an order ..
                And people picked up ...

                Lannan Shi just to crow and redhead indignation, and then at least do not dawn. drinks
                1. Lannan Shi
                  Lannan Shi 3 October 2019 11: 46
                  -4
                  Quote: FenH
                  Lannan Shi just to crow and redhead indignation

                  Approximately 1/3 of the population will be satisfied with any regime. With equal enthusiasm, the anti-king will bow to the world bourgeoisie and stigmatize, and shove subhuman into the gazenvagen, and fight for the rights of gays. It’s not my fault that you are one of those ... With a flexible spine and rough tongue. And again, it’s not my fault that your adorable redhead is not able to ensure economic growth at least at the level of Nigeria. Not aware that in 2000, Nigeria's GDP was 1/5 of Russia's GDP, and in 2018 - 1/3? Isn’t it nasty to be dumber than a black man from the jungle?
                  1. FenH
                    FenH 3 October 2019 11: 58
                    +1
                    Quote: Lannan Shi
                    Quote: FenH
                    Lannan Shi just to crow and redhead indignation

                    Approximately 1/3 of the population will be satisfied with any regime. With equal enthusiasm, the anti-king will bow to the world bourgeoisie and stigmatize, and shove subhuman into the gazenvagen, and fight for the rights of gays. It’s not my fault that you are one of those ... With a flexible spine and rough tongue. And again, it’s not my fault that your adorable redhead is not able to ensure economic growth at least at the level of Nigeria. Not aware that in 2000, Nigeria's GDP was 1/5 of Russia's GDP, and in 2018 - 1/3? Isn’t it nasty to be dumber than a black man from the jungle?

                    Do not judge others by yourself, I remember the funeral of the leaders of the USSR and Yeltsin. In all times of life, a bunch of forever dissatisfied people who, in view of their stupidity, could blame everyone around them and the authorities in their own troubles that could not create their own, climb to teach others how to live , stupid parasites, losers in one word. I'm not interested in insignificance, so you can not answer hi
                    1. Lannan Shi
                      Lannan Shi 3 October 2019 12: 28
                      -5
                      Quote: FenH
                      .At all times of life, a bunch of forever than discontented people who, in view of their stupidity, could blame everyone around them and the authorities for their own troubles

                      Again. Under the direction of the galley rower, the Russian Federation is developing a third slower than wild Nigeria. At the same time, Nigeria from the USSR did not get an army from the military-industrial complex, nor science, nor cosmodromes, or just factories and roads. Nevertheless, at the rate of growth under the rule of the chief officer, she will overtake us in 40-45 years. You are aware that from 2008 to 2014 real GDP growth, without inflation, at constant prices, is 6%. And from 2014 to 2018 - 2%. Yes, the era of funeral - economic takeoff, vertical, if compared with Putinomics.
                      Quote: FenH
                      who, in view of their stupidity, could blame everyone around them and the authorities for their own troubles that could not create their own, climb on to teach others how to live, stupid parasites are losers in a word

                      They did not fit into the market and should die. It’s familiar. And the funny thing is that the Zaputinians, yelling about Chubais as the fifth column, are, according to their convictions, the most notorious liberalists, who are openly cannibalistic. Against the background of which even mattresses are notorious commo-maoists.
                      Quote: FenH
                      I'm not interested in anything

                      Clear business. Seeing him in the mirror - studied thoroughly.
                      1. FenH
                        FenH 3 October 2019 12: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Lannan Shi
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                        Some slogans and distortions, a complete primitive laughingManual update.
                      2. Lannan Shi
                        Lannan Shi 3 October 2019 12: 49
                        -5
                        Quote: FenH
                        Some slogans and distortions, a complete primitive

                        These slogans, about GDP, are taken from the Rosstat website and are just beaming with optimism. By the way. In the same China, for an increase of 8%, over 10 years, they would have shot in bulk, from the chief officer to the last deputy minister. In liberal countries, they would simply kick out a diner to manage.
                      3. FenH
                        FenH 3 October 2019 13: 51
                        -1
                        Quote: Lannan Shi
                        .

                        Are you trying to prove something to me now? Or are you just no longer with whom to talk? Here your heads of the Revolutionary are going to be expelled, so stock up on cookies, the winter in Russia is long
                        https://nation-news.ru/477272-mid-rf-poblagodaril-fan-za-razoblachivshee-agenta-cru-rassledovanie?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
              2. Lannan Shi
                Lannan Shi 3 October 2019 11: 52
                -5
                Quote: Albert1988
                IF the Ministry of Defense will give such an order ..

                And the MO just promised, in the person of the representative in the commission’s VP, that the armata, armata, and nothing but armata. And even the guarantor guaranteed. However, they changed their shoes in a jump. And the guarantor and MO. And not the first time.
                Quote: Albert1988
                And people picked up ...

                Guarantor and Minister of Defense. Found someone to believe. Really naive.
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 3 October 2019 12: 48
                  0
                  Quote: Lannan Shi
                  And the Moscow Region just promised ... And even the guarantor guaranteed. However, they changed their shoes in a jump

        2. 5-9
          5-9 2 October 2019 12: 39
          +3
          Well? Received in 2018 a new tank based on the Armata heavy tracked platform? It seems like yes. Or got it in 2019?
          Who promised 2300 Armats by 2018? None. By 2018 - separately. 2300 - separately. This brainless hamsters themselves thought up 2300 by 2018, they themselves were offended. Hedgehog it is clear that 2300 is for ... a twenty-year life cycle. But not a hamster
  9. Dva parovoza
    Dva parovoza 1 October 2019 11: 54
    +2
    The only news on Krasnaya Zvezda on the tag T-90M "ProryvT-3" is the search engine of the "Krasnaya Zvezda" itself on the website: "This year the serial production of the modernized T-90M tank starts
    14.03.2018 ". Is this news? -14.03.2018
    1. Artemiy_2
      Artemiy_2 1 October 2019 12: 25
      -2
      http://redstar.ru/pobednuyu-tochku-stavit-nam/
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 October 2019 12: 17
    0
    Kaz and gun 2a82 ...
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 1 October 2019 13: 09
      0
      The T-90M has a 125mm 2A82-1M cannon, the same as that of the Armata tank.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 1 October 2019 13: 58
        0
        No ... they wanted, but they refused.
      2. 5-9
        5-9 1 October 2019 14: 34
        +2
        Here -1M just shows that it’s not like in Almaty ... there is an ejector ... there is a choke with the armastovo crew :)
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 1 October 2019 15: 00
          +1
          The ejector can be set or not set. At T90m, the cannon is old and BOPS are short
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 1 October 2019 23: 11
            0
            Quote: Zaurbek
            The ejector can be set or not set. At T90m, the gun is old and BOPS is short

            Oh, how far is not a fact - the breech of the T-90M gun is very different from that of the T-90S, for example, and the AZ is also new for longer ammunition, so, most likely, the old gun with a new breech and can use a longer BOPS .
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 2 October 2019 10: 13
              0
              On 2a82 bops 900mm. With appropriate charge energy. And the worst thing is that such tools since the 2000s are the norm for NATO countries.
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 2 October 2019 20: 13
                0
                Quote: Zaurbek
                And the worst thing is that such tools since the 2000s are the norm for NATO countries.

                Absolutely not - longer guns went to NATO only on the latest versions of leopards - 2A7, and before that, without changing the characteristics of the gun, they increased the length of the BOPS due to its immersion in the sleeve. We had to make a new AZ because of the specifics, but it turned out to be not so difficult.
                Quote: Zaurbek
                On 2a82 bops 900mm. With appropriate charge energy.

                Yes, only the 2A73 of the T-90 is not so weak and the new 900 mm BOPS can plunk.
          2. 5-9
            5-9 2 October 2019 12: 42
            0
            The length of the BOPS to the gun is not related, but to AZ.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 2 October 2019 15: 32
              0
              ..and to the breech and to the trunk .. the energy is big.
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 2 October 2019 20: 14
                0
                Quote: Zaurbek
                .and to the breech and to the trunk .. the energy is big.

                The gun has a margin of strength, the guns of the last T-90s are very, very close to 2A82, but it will still be possible to use new BOPs.
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 2 October 2019 21: 44
                  0
                  In fact, no
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 3 October 2019 20: 05
                    0
                    Quote: Zaurbek
                    In fact, no

                    By what fact? Out of your head, like the problems with the production of new guns? Americans out - they calmly shoot a new shell from an old cannon, longer and nothing ...
              2. 5-9
                5-9 3 October 2019 09: 00
                +1
                Well, that’s if very, very long and powerful want ... the United States rested on it, the M829A3-A4 rod already weighs the length of the projectile. And while we are with the problem of AZ only broke up
                1. Zaurbek
                  Zaurbek 3 October 2019 09: 45
                  0
                  The main problem for the production of trunks. We can not mass-produce blanks for barrels for 2a82.
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 3 October 2019 19: 32
                    0
                    Quote: Zaurbek
                    The main problem for the production of trunks. We can not mass-produce blanks for barrels for 2a82.

                    And who told you such utter nonsense? You do not confuse Russia with Ukraine - there, yes, the entire production of new trunks has already accumulated, we have all the rules with trunks.
                    1. Zaurbek
                      Zaurbek 3 October 2019 19: 36
                      0
                      It is with such a complex problem ... otherwise, we would see 2A82 on all modernized tanks. And you watch your stuff! Pick up on ads!
                      1. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 3 October 2019 19: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        It is with such a complex problem ... otherwise, we would see 2A82 on all modernized tanks. And you watch your stuff! Pick up on ads!

                        That is, some problems with the mass production of 2A82 - the essence of your conclusion ... But is it anything that they refused to use it to modernize old tanks during the USSR? What, too, could not be mass produced? Probably the problem is still not the possibility of production ...
                        So this is nonsense, because for the Russian defense industry at the moment, the new barrel does not present a problem, all the more so. that the barrel has already been developed for a long time, the problem is more with some electronic components and the same thermal imagers - so far we can’t produce them as quickly and as much as we would like ...
                      2. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 3 October 2019 19: 53
                        0
                        They refused for the same reason, but the enemy didn’t have such weapons, and now they are in large numbers. Do they have nothing to do with them? AZ is a problem, but it was decided quite simply by recesses on the sides and overlays on top. 900mm bops fits. A barrel can be made from blanks; blanks with the right parameters for a powerful gun are not yet in serial production.
                      3. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 3 October 2019 20: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        They refused for the same reason, but the enemy didn’t have such weapons, and now they are in large numbers.

                        Oga, but from something the tanks actively mastered already with 152 mm poles, apparently the enemy had such? laughing
                        And now there are NO such weapons on a mass scale - the old Soviet 125 mm tank guns can only exceed one NATO weapon, the Rheinmetall L-120/55 with a length of 55 calibers, while the same Abramkins and most leopards are armed with the old Rheinmetall L-120/44 , with a barrel length of 44 calobras, which is much weaker in ballistics than the T-80 and T-90, and even the T-72 guns. NATO travels by lengthening the BOPS. But what we really have a problem with in Russia is with new shells ...
                        And yes - about blanks for a barrel of greater power - are these your fantasies again? For almost 30 they could produce, but more of the type they can’t laughing
                      4. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 3 October 2019 20: 09
                        0
                        NATO with tanks ahead of ours in sights, communications and infrared systems and SLAs. With the T90M, we approached their performance .... but they are still ahead of us in guns and BOPS. Germans can raise the caliber to 130 and 140mm even tomorrow and they do not need a new tank. And a large caliber, too, for now.
                      5. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 3 October 2019 20: 29
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        NATO with tanks ahead of ours in sights, communications and infrared systems and SLAs.

                        This is a common truth and an open secret ...
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        but they are still ahead of us in guns and BOPS.

                        Yes, there are no guns in the BOPS - 90% of their tanks have older and weaker guns than ours ...
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        Germans can raise caliber to 130 and 140mm even tomorrow

                        No, they can’t - because the existing 130-140 mm guns failed installation on existing tanks - a whole new tower is needed (like us, in general), but this is not profitable - it’s easier to make a new tank.
                        So what exactly is the new tank they need for a larger caliber. The problem is different - the Germans, in principle, do not need an army - they will not fight with anyone. Even we fight in proxy wars and local conflicts, and the Germans reduced their participation in the NATO clashes almost to zero and are thinking how to reduce it to zero altogether ...
                      6. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 4 October 2019 08: 17
                        0
                        Nevertheless, their BOPS defeat range was higher ... Now it has leveled off, but we are behind in armor penetration. In the context of proxy wars this is not significant. But how many such tanks do we have with such an SLA?
                      7. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 6 October 2019 14: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        However, the range of defeat BOPS they had higher ...

                        The range of defeat BOPS in gikh has become higher, like armor penetration, when they in the 90s, unlike us, did not fall apart, but continued to develop these same BOPSs. In the USSR, the development of 125 mm shells was already slowed down, because everyone was already rubbing their hands in anticipation of 152 mm monsters, as well as the collapse and the 90s.
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        Now it has leveled off, but we are behind in armor penetration.

                        Firstly, no one knows for sure what the armor penetration of our new BOPS is, and even of the NATO new BOPS, too - for a secret infa. Moreover, no one knows for sure what is the equivalent of armor for the same T-90 tower, which is welded. There is an opinion that even without DZ, this armor is still at a distance of 2000 not even too tough for even new NATO shells.
                      8. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 6 October 2019 19: 29
                        0
                        I am not reducing anyone's progress in materials and SLAs. But if you take the same level of metals for BOPS. That longer will hit more.
                      9. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 6 October 2019 19: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        I am not reducing anyone's progress in materials and SLAs. But if you take the same level of metals for BOPS. That longer will hit more.

                        This is clear as God's day))))
                        I want to say one simple thing - IM it was easier to make a longer crowbar - drowned in a sleeve and that's it. WE had to redo the AZ, BUT - ours then wanted to change the caliber altogether to monstrous 152 mm and not take a steam bath, only the union ordered us to live for a long time, so we still had to redo the AZ - there were not so many tanks, and it turned out to be 152 mm much more hemorrhoids than originally thought ...
                      10. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 6 October 2019 21: 45
                        0
                        As it turns out, quite quickly, and our AZs modernized. But for some reason they don’t put it under 2a46 ...
                      11. Albert1988
                        Albert1988 6 October 2019 21: 58
                        0
                        Quote: Zaurbek
                        But for some reason they don’t put it under 2a46 ...

                        The article just says about the reverse example)))
  11. toha124
    toha124 1 October 2019 13: 06
    +2
    Modern tanks are purchased for tank and motorized rifle units

    Rather, for tank units of motorized rifle and tank units. In our country, nevertheless, in the army context, traditionally units are more often called formations that are not military units. To the line battalion inclusive. And that sounds crooked.
  12. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 1 October 2019 13: 34
    +2
    Great tank, sorry without active defense, against all javelins and spikes defenseless
  13. Professor
    Professor 1 October 2019 13: 42
    -1
    The Ministry of Defense has begun purchasing modernized T-90M Proryv-3 tanks. Oleg Salyukov, Commander-in-Chief of the RF Ground Forces, announced this in an interview with the Krasnaya Zvezda newspaper.

    T-90M "Breakthrough-3" will go to the troops already this year
    March 31 2018

    https://topwar.ru/138943-t-90m-proryv-3-postupit-v-voyska-uzhe-v-etom-godu.html

    PS
    The cheekbones of the tower are like those of Magah, the pigtails are like those of Merkava, finally air conditioning and an automatic transmission have appeared. This is a plus.
    Of the minuses, the lack of KAZ, the same ammunition and low maintainability.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 1 October 2019 14: 26
      +3
      Professor, have you already tested the T-90M? The fact is that journalists very rarely differ in technical knowledge and can easily misinterpret everything
      1. Professor
        Professor 1 October 2019 14: 32
        -2
        Quote: vladcub
        Professor, have you already tested the T-90M? The fact is that journalists very rarely differ in technical knowledge and can easily misinterpret everything

        I am writing about what I know.
        1. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 1 October 2019 16: 16
          +2
          or I think I know ....
    2. English tarantas
      English tarantas 2 October 2019 11: 15
      0
      But not a 60-ton shed)
    3. Albert1988
      Albert1988 3 October 2019 20: 31
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Of the minuses, the lack of KAZ

      This minus agree
      Quote: Professor
      same ammunition

      You wanted to say the same AZ? The same, but not the same - its protection from fire and damage from splinters is an order of magnitude higher than before, and these were just the main factors leading to the detonation of powder charges.
      Quote: Professor
      low maintainability.

      And where did you get this? Many T-90 repaired?
      1. Professor
        Professor 5 October 2019 08: 18
        0
        Quote: Albert1988
        You wanted to say the same AZ? The same, but not the same - its protection from fire and damage from splinters is an order of magnitude higher than before, and these were just the main factors leading to the detonation of powder charges.

        How? Now the shells do not lie around the perimeter of the tower? Does each shell lie in a refractory individual container?

        Quote: Albert1988
        And where did you get this? Many T-90 repaired?

        From regulatory documents. How many man hours does an engine change?
        1. Albert1988
          Albert1988 6 October 2019 14: 51
          0
          Quote: Professor
          How? Now the shells do not lie around the perimeter of the tower? Does each shell lie in a refractory individual container?

          Dear Prof! In the T-90, the shells NEVER lay along the "turret perimeter" - they lay UNDER the turret, under its fighting compartment! As for the fire resistance, now the entire AZ has been put into a fire-resistant anti-splinter box with a roof that separates it completely from the fighting compartment and walls. It is possible that there is also a fireproof protection for the powder charges.
          Quote: Professor
          From regulatory documents. How many man hours does an engine change?

          Hours can be allocated as many as you like, it is important how much it can be replaced ...
          1. Professor
            Professor 7 October 2019 07: 25
            +1
            Quote: Albert1988
            Dear Prof! In the T-90, the shells NEVER lay along the "turret perimeter" - they lay UNDER the turret, under its fighting compartment! As for the fire resistance, now the entire AZ has been put into a fire-resistant anti-splinter box with a roof that separates it completely from the fighting compartment and walls. It is possible that there is also a fireproof protection for the powder charges.

            Automatic loading of shots into the gun is provided by an electromechanical automatic loader similar to that installed on T-72 tanks.

            Detonation of one of the shells leads to guaranteed destruction of the tank.


            Quote: Albert1988
            Hours can be allocated as many as you like, it is important how much it can be replaced ...

            How many hours? In Merkava and Leopard, this takes minutes.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 7 October 2019 21: 18
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Automatic loading of shots into the gun is provided by an electromechanical automatic loader similar to that installed on T-72 tanks.

              And this AZ was protected by a shatterproof and fireproof casing ....
              Quote: Professor
              Detonation of one of the shells leads to guaranteed destruction of the tank.

              I recall that someone very familiar to me thoroughly argued that detonation of at least one shell irreversibly leads to detonation of the remaining shells. which is guaranteed to destroy any tank, regardless of how its ammunition is organized wink
  14. Brigadier
    Brigadier 1 October 2019 14: 15
    -6
    It looks like the Armata T-14 was blown off completely.
    The air bubble burst, as did the Skolkovo "innovations" of the friends of the Radiant.
    They will leave a couple of pieces to delight Putin’s gaze in parades, and enough.
    Everything is, as always, with this "power" ... Good - little by little ...
    The main thing is to regularly drive gas and oil abroad - a "national" property ... laughing lol wassat

    To create something worthwhile is not to show cartoons and rob people with "pension reforms". Brains are needed here ...

    And it doesn't matter that all these "innovations" have spent a lot of money, receiving in return incomparably less than was invested, the main thing is to puff out your cheeks with a smart look and say: "Yes, really ..."

    1. Pavel57
      Pavel57 1 October 2019 14: 26
      +1
      Give a reason to scold the authorities?)))) From the sofa it is more visible.
    2. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 1 October 2019 16: 17
      +1
      Stop whining already ....
    3. vladcub
      vladcub 1 October 2019 18: 58
      +3
      Brigadier, I thought for a long time and I think that the T-14 was over-promoted. Each pillar knew that the Aroma was SOMETHING, and the tank had not actually passed the whole complex of tests
      Somehow not very smart. Now, if the T14 fails in the tests, there are conspiracy theorists that the plot will be sucked out of the finger
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 1 October 2019 23: 13
        +1
        Quote: vladcub
        Brigadier, I thought for a long time and I think that the T-14 was over-promoted. Each pillar knew that the Aroma was SOMETHING, and the tank had not actually passed the whole complex of tests
        Somehow not very smart.

        Namely - they decided to promote and show ahead of time - normally before 2020 they wouldn’t show it at all.
        Quote: vladcub
        Now, if the T14 fails in the tests, there are conspiracy theorists that the plot will be sucked out of the finger

        Yes, it won’t fail - the machine is very promising, and even if the T-14 fails, then even taking into account its shortcomings, they will do at least the T-100500 - there will be less work due to unification ..
        1. Demon_is_ada
          Demon_is_ada 2 October 2019 06: 16
          +1
          I’m wondering who those who want 100500 thousand Armat were going to fight with? With aliens ??? belay With these, neither Almaty nor SNF will help crying Armata is a promising tank of the near future and already in metal, for a start it would be nice to write a field charter for him how to use it safely for yourself, and then arm yourself to the teeth laughing What do you think?
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 2 October 2019 20: 15
            +1
            Quote: Demon_is_ada
            Armata is a promising tank of the near future and already in metal, for a start it would be nice to write a field charter for him how to use it safely for yourself, and then arm yourself to the teeth And what do you think?

            Actually, I think so - the car is very new and very different from everything. what has been done here and in the world in this area before. So it’s still run-in and run-in calmly and without haste, and only then it will be possible to re-arm en masse.
    4. Albert1988
      Albert1988 6 October 2019 14: 53
      0
      Quote: Brigadier
      It looks like the Armata T-14 was blown off completely.

      For information on the order by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the production of the first serial batch of vehicles based on the "Armata" platform, including 80 tanks, 40 heavy infantry fighting vehicles and 15 armored vehicles, please find it yourself - it is widely available ...
  15. vladcub
    vladcub 1 October 2019 14: 20
    +2
    Somewhere in the media, information flashed that the Defense Ministry took into account the experience of military operations in Syria: 12 species are being discontinued, while others will be modernized. I don’t know the details, maybe someone in the know?
  16. 5-9
    5-9 1 October 2019 14: 29
    0
    So in which version of the T-90M ... with 2A46M or 2A82?
  17. vladcub
    vladcub 1 October 2019 14: 31
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    KAZ from a principle do not put or what?

    It is unlikely that now KAZ itself is implied
  18. yehat
    yehat 1 October 2019 15: 39
    +3
    Quote: Karabas
    It seems like it can be equipped like a T-90AM

    That is the problem
    we have 90% of the tank fleet with this prefix.
  19. Shteffan
    Shteffan 1 October 2019 17: 44
    0
    Is the T72b3 a modern tank?
  20. Mentat
    Mentat 1 October 2019 20: 02
    0
    Quote: Lannan Shi
    Quote: FenH
    Well, where in your text says about thousands of armatures?

    And 2300 - according to Sienko. Sounded almost simultaneously with the official nonsense about total reinforcement. A naive Chukchi young man ... To live to such posts and not understand the obvious. There is no money for Armata. And will not be. For starving oil workers need benefits. Starving bankers too. Without armatures and frigates, Russia can easily live. But without coins for Alekperov’s collection ... He will instantly die.

    Bullshit - this is what you are trying to hang on the ears of readers sour noodles.

    Sienko in an interview with Echo of Moscow expressed two things: fact and assumption. Why don't you quote them?

    Fact:
    “The state arms program provides for the supply of an army of 2300 Armata units.

    Assumption:
    “Until 2020, however, most likely, it will be adjusted according to the terms:“ Volumes will probably remain, but the period will shift to 2025 ”(https://lenta.ru/news/2015/09/15/armata/ )

    Sienko’s desire to drive the tank into a series and quickly earn money for his native enterprise is understandable. It is not clear why, on the basis of his assumptions about the timing, you suck something out of your finger or take it out of your nose and smear it around the forum.

    MO adheres to a completely logical line: first full-scale tests, as new and raw equipment, inevitable improvements, trial operation, and only then mass production. There simply cannot be another.

    At the moment, there are a number of questions on the transmission, engine, sighting systems, ammunition nomenclature. All this is new and has not been previously released. For example, as far as I understand, there is no 1800 second-hp “second stage” engine, which was planned for the production model. Without it, obviously, there can be no mass purchases. The issue of price has also not yet been finalized, it remains quite high by the standards of the Russian army.
  21. Basarev
    Basarev 1 October 2019 20: 44
    0
    And yet this is the limit. The T-72 modernization reserve has been exhausted. We need a fundamentally new tank, right completely new, and not like Armata - of all the available projects, it was the most conservative and imperfect.
  22. Klingon
    Klingon 1 October 2019 21: 20
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: YOUR
    Thrown for some reason

    Due to cost and expediency at that point in time. The T-95, just like the Black Eagle, was innovative, but very expensive. T-14 is essentially an economy version of the T-95.
    Quote: YOUR
    And the result is the troops T80 and T72

    And in your 80-ku and 72-ku do not need to be upgraded? We have a total of 20 of thousands of them ... do you propose to melt? Today, it is one of the most modern, protected and sought-after tanks in the world.

    80-ku why? tank venigret again, it doesn’t have unification with T-72/90, again there are problems with service / logistics. And do not say that diesel does not work in the north, it even works for the Swedes (Leo 2a7) and we again step on the old rake where again there will be 3 types of tanks with the 0th unification
  23. smart fellow
    smart fellow 1 October 2019 22: 39
    -4
    Wowed under Leopard 2.
  24. Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich
    Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich 2 October 2019 08: 38
    -2
    Modernization of the t-80bvm, t-72b3, t-90m is needed and it is quite logical that it is carried out. This is the fastest and least expensive way to pull the tanks to the level of modern western ones. And the time for the T-14 has not come yet, because everything needs to be tested and finalized before being released into a large series and the army itself is not ready for this tank. It’s not technically ready for a network-centric war, but the process is underway, the necessary components are being introduced in order to connect all the equipment informationally with each other. This is an important groundwork for the future.
  25. orionvitt
    orionvitt 2 October 2019 12: 18
    -1
    Well, good. I would even say excellent. where are all the scouts?
  26. tank64rus
    tank64rus 2 October 2019 12: 27
    0
    As for the AZ on the T-90m, you can put the AZ, where the powder charges are spaced out in the aft niche behind the turret, and the shells are in the ammo rack. Two automatic loaders, one for projectiles, the other for powder charges. This increases the safety of the crew and the ammunition load. The Americans have already evaluated a similar device AZ in the magazine "National Interest". But their shells are unitary and such a technical solution is impossible. And for a separate just. RF patent No. 2612037 2017.
  27. GibSoN
    GibSoN 2 October 2019 19: 41
    -1
    Is it a joke like that, or on a headband for a news photo that looks very similar to a Chinese Type 99 tank?
    [media = https: //vpk.name/file/img/type-99a2.jpg]
    Or is it a hint that China will soon produce tanks for the Russian Federation?
  28. Bodipancher
    Bodipancher 3 October 2019 08: 06
    0
    A beautiful tank, while Armata is tested and brought to mind, you can’t imagine better. Although, in my opinion, Armata should play the role of a heavy tank with a 152 mm caliber cannon, and mass MBTs should be such as the T-90 M.