Flying tachanka. Experienced aircraft P.12 Lysander Delanne

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Created in the 1940 year, the British experimental aircraft P.12 Lysander Delanne can not be attributed to the most unusual combat aircraft in stories aviation. History has also seen much stranger aircraft, many of which were even produced in commercial quantities. But this model had its own highlight. P.12 Lysander Delanne was a modification of the light multifunctional Westland Lysander aircraft and was an experimental model with a machine gun turret, a peculiar version of a flying cart. The aircraft, built according to the tandem scheme, was distinguished by powerful fodder weapons and, according to the creators' idea, could solve various combat missions.


P.12 Lysander Delanne




Light multipurpose aircraft Westland Lysander


To some extent, a light multi-purpose aircraft for interaction with the Westland Lysander ground forces was the British analogue of the Soviet U-2 (Po-2). In the sense that it was a universal and easy to pilot machine that solved a huge number of tasks on the battlefield. The small plane, which was a single-engine monoplane with a high wing and fixed gear, did not have high flight characteristics and managed to become obsolete by the beginning of World War II, but was unpretentious, well-controlled and turned out to be an extremely versatile aircraft. A total of 1938 Westland Lysander aircraft was assembled in the UK and Canada from 1942 to January 1674.

When creating the aircraft, one of the mandatory requirements of the British military was that it could “pick up” small cargoes from the ground on a low-level flight, for example, containers with important reports. In the 1930 years, this way of connecting units between themselves was considered quite promising, since radio stations, their reliability and quality left much to be desired, and they themselves were not available in all field units of the British army. The development of the aircraft began in 1934 by Westland engineers. The first flight of the prototype took place on June 15 of the 1936 of the year, and already in April of the 1938 of the year, the aircraft, named Lysander in honor of the Spartan commander, went into mass production.


Westland Lysander


The appearance of this universal aircraft dates back to the combat experience of the First World War, having comprehended the results of which, the British generals came to the conclusion that the army needed a multi-purpose, inexpensive and unpretentious aircraft capable of reconnaissance in the interests of ground units, including the search for divisions detached from the main forces or surrounded by the enemy and establishing contact with them, delivering supplies and ammunition, evacuating the wounded to the rear. In addition, the aircraft was able to hit ground targets onboard weapons and bombs, as well as perform connected and traveling tasks. First of all, Westland Lysander was an aircraft of direct support and interaction with the ground forces.

The aircraft, built by Westland engineers, was distinguished by good flight characteristics at low flight speeds, which made it possible to effectively conduct reconnaissance of the terrain, including using photo equipment, as well as deliver reports. In addition, the aircraft was able to take off and land from small airfields, which was especially useful during the Second World War. Westland Lysander aircraft were often used for special operations in German-occupied territories, as well as for communication with the French resistance. To increase the flight range on aircraft, a fuel tank with a capacity of up to 150 liters could be suspended. For all its versatility, a small light aircraft in some versions could stand up for itself, as it received two course 7,7-mm machine guns installed in the fairings of the wheels of the chassis, as well as an 1-2 machine gun of the same caliber on a pivot mount to protect the rear hemisphere. In addition, the aircraft could take on board up to 227 kg of bombs (1x227 kg, 4x51 kg or 12 9,3 kg).


Westland Lysander


By its versatility, Westland Lysander stands on a par with the Soviet U-2. It is worth noting that the British were far from the only ones who designed such a plane. Similar in purpose light aircraft were created in the USA, Germany and the USSR. The German Army Fieseler Fi 156 Storch light aircraft, the Soviet multipurpose U-2 (later Po-2) and the American light multipurpose Piper Cub were the same aircraft. At the same time, against the background of the listed samples, Westland Lysander was distinguished by the largest dimensions and take-off weight. As a result, the aircraft was the most expensive, but stood out favorably with the best flight characteristics. The sufficiently powerful Bristol Mercury XX piston engine installed in the English aircraft, which produced 870 horsepower, provided the multipurpose vehicle with a maximum speed of 340 km / h, which is significantly higher than that of all the aircraft listed above. And one of the advantages of Westland Lysander over the Soviet U-2 was a more spacious and fully glazed cabin. In general, the aircraft turned out to be quite successful, which led to the appearance of a large number of modifications and one radical alteration - the experimental P.12 Lysander Delanne aircraft with powerful turret weapons.

Flying Wheelbarrow P.12 Lysander Delanne


The experimental aircraft P.12 Lysander Delanne, which was called the "turret fighter", a flying cart or light attack aircraft, was one of the machines that was created on the basis of the multi-purpose aircraft Westland Lysander. Due to the unusual appearance, the P.12 Lysander Delanne, also unofficially called Westland Wendover, was built in a single copy and became quite famous, often falling into various collections of the most unusual aircraft.


P.12 Lysander Delanne


The turret fighter was designed and built in metal by Westland engineers in late 1940. For this, the designers have seriously reworked one of the serially built samples of their light multipurpose aircraft Lysander. As a result of the work, the tail of the aircraft was shortened by installing in the rear of the fuselage a mock-up of a rotating rifle turret manufactured by Nash & Thompson with 4x7,7-mm machine guns, which replaced the standard tail assembly. The British installed similar gun turrets on their long-range bombers, for example the Armstrong Whitley. The installation of a rifle turret required the designers to replace the stabilizer with a second trapezoidal wing of a rather large size with keel washers at the ends.

As a result of the manipulations, it turned out something that really looked like a flying cart. The tandem scheme aircraft with a sufficiently large firepower, which was all concentrated in the rear hemisphere, presented to the audience. According to the developers, such defensive weapons were supposed to protect a light army multi-purpose aircraft from attacks by Luftwaffe fighters. As the fighting in France showed, Lysander turned out to be very easy prey for German pilots. Of the 174 Westland Lysander aircraft available to the British Expeditionary Force, 88 were shot down by enemy fighters and anti-aircraft fire, and 33 were destroyed on the ground or abandoned during the retreat.


P.12 Lysander Delanne


True, even with a full-fledged machine-gun turret, the aircraft’s ability to defend itself against attacks by high-speed maneuvering fighter jets with cannon weapons was very arbitrary. But it is no accident that the progenitor of this brainchild of a gloomy British genius was a multi-purpose aircraft. The British expected to use the P.12 Lysander Delanne as a night fighter, as well as a light attack aircraft. The latter was even more relevant, given that the plane was very slow for the fighter, but the possible invasion of the Germans on the islands of the British military was really scary. All means were good for repelling a possible landing on the coast. Given the deplorable state of the British armed forces in the 1940 year, an attempt to create such an aircraft seems quite justified.

Despite the fact that the experimental aircraft was surprisingly well-controlled in flight, even in a small series the car did not go and remained made in a single copy. The plane’s problems arose only at taxiing, according to eyewitnesses, it kept its heading poorly, the reason was a decrease in the chassis base during the conversion process. The constructed flight model crashed during one of the flights in the 1944 year. Despite an unsuccessful career, the plane forever inscribed its name in the history of aviation, and numerous photographs of this unusual aircraft, outwardly resembling a large insect with two heads, have reached us.
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  1. +7
    6 October 2019 05: 46
    It is necessary to clarify the "tandem scheme" of what ???? Engines one by one? Or the wings are tandemly arranged ...
    In fact, it is a biplane with tandem wings located .....
    Creepy pepelats .....
    Compare percale u-2 and Lysander (almost SU-2)
    Not ethical
    1. -4
      6 October 2019 17: 35
      Where did you find the resemblance to the Su-2? Yes, and with the U-2 comparison is not very. These aircraft fought worthily on the fronts of World War II, and the miracle of technology called Lysander was ingloriously beaten.
      1. +1
        6 October 2019 17: 49
        Quote: Vadim T.
        and the miracle of technology called Lysander was ingloriously beaten.

        ?
        They say that the "French resistance" was created by the British thanks to these aircraft. Ingloriously and regularly flew to the occupied territories, and with a landing.
        1. +1
          6 October 2019 20: 50
          Are you serious? About "French Resistance"? And the role of the two-seater R-12 in this myth inflated by Western propaganda is also serious? How many sorties had to be made on a slow-moving and practically unprotected aircraft in order to transfer at least a small detachment of saboteurs to France, packed with air defense, radars and squadrons of the Luftwaffe with night fighters, and then safely return home?
          1. +2
            6 October 2019 21: 23
            Quote: Vadim T.
            Are you serious? About "French resistance"?

            Definitely. Even if it was rather British activity in France.

            Quote: Vadim T.
            And the role of the two-seater R-12 in this hyped western propaganda is also serious?

            Definitely the same.
            By the way, the main aircraft for flights to partisans was Po-2. Remind me how many people he drove?

            Quote: Vadim T.
            How many sorties did it take to make a low-speed and practically unprotected airplane to transfer to France, which was laden with air defense, with Luftwaffe radars and squadrons with night fighters, at least a small detachment of saboteurs, and then safely return home?

            Look at the root ... Gigantic work. Which was actively conducted both in France by the British, and ours in Belarus and Ukraine. Inglorious. Or inglorious only the British?
            1. PCF
              +2
              6 October 2019 23: 02
              Let me insert my five cents!
              I want about the French Resistance, it’s also Resistance to say. So, there were about 23-26 thousand captured French people on the eastern front, and LESS participated in the Resistance, although after the victory everyone who was not involved was recorded there.
              How many of the Charlemagne division in the Soviet fields were killed from 43 to 45, I don’t remember, but the bill went by thousands too.
              So what's the bottom line? For de Gaulle and Leclerc, Resistance is good, so to speak, tested people, and our prisoners had to be fed. Only Normandy-Niemen brought at least some benefit.
              The French are still allied friends. Like Romanians, and Bulgarians, and Poles, and other, other ...
              1. 0
                6 October 2019 23: 21
                Sergey, good day! This is exactly what I was trying to explain to the honored Mr. Lopatov. The whole history of the French resistance, especially that part of it that the British supported, is greatly exaggerated. And that is to say the least. The French felt comfortable under the Germans all the time of the occupation, and did not want to fight with the Germans .. The main backbone of the resistance was Soviet prisoners of war and a small part of the French communists and anti-fascists. But the French fought against us willingly. And in the SS divisions, and in other units. Here you are absolutely right. Just try to explain this to Mr. Lopatov. He is an ardent admirer of foggy Albion and its inhabitants.
                1. PCF
                  0
                  6 October 2019 23: 27
                  I had to live in the British Isles - England, Ireland. He looked at the Anglo-Saxon culture from the inside, never once impressed. Football and beer, which is interesting for most of the population, could not communicate with the counts, but the fact that he saw enough for a more or less adequate assessment as a whole. How would it be better ... rotten people
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2019 23: 32
                    I agree. But on the other hand, opinions about themselves are very big. Rule, Britain, by the seas - they still probably sing.
            2. 0
              6 October 2019 23: 04
              1. Some sources claim that the British on the P-12 transported about 400 people to France (from 1941 to 1944!) And about the same from there. Most likely, you are using these numbers. But I repeat once again: given the powerful air defense system of the Germans, the presence of radars and night fighters, these figures are very doubtful. Just like the "gigantic work" of those four hundred saboteurs.
              2. I don’t need to remind anything: I’m not complaining for a while. But you should know: the work of our pilots on the Po-2 is really carried out gigantic, and can not be compared with the British on the P-12, which you so admire. For example, female pilots from the 46 Guards night bomber aircraft of the Taman Red Banner and the Order of the Suvorov Regiment made 18-20 sorties per night. I will repeat specifically for you: on 18-20 sorties per night! Therefore, your comparison with the British is inappropriate and incorrect, even if we take into account the numbers voiced above. And so yes, ingloriously for your beloved Britons.
              3. Special thanks for the minus. If you feel better from this, I will be only glad. As the saying goes, no matter what the child is amused, if only he would not cry.
              1. +2
                6 October 2019 23: 09
                Quote: Vadim T.
                on 18-20 sorties per night!

                Is it for the entire regiment or for each plane for 20 sorties per night?
                1. -4
                  6 October 2019 23: 12
                  For one pilot, i.e. the pilot. Read the memoirs of veterans of the 46 nbap.
                  1. +4
                    6 October 2019 23: 14
                    Quote: Vadim T.
                    For one pilot, i.e. the pilot. Read the memoirs of veterans of the 46 nbap.

                    On a plane for 20 flights in 1 NIGHT ??? ... and how long did it take for your 1 flight then? Night is 6/7 hours
                    1. 0
                      6 October 2019 23: 30
                      6-7 hours - this is summer. But even at this time of the year a couple more hours fall at dusk. Autumn and spring nights are much longer. As for the duration of the departure, it all depended on the combat mission. If you fly to the partisans through the front line, then maybe 1-2 departure per night. And if you make harassing bombing strikes on the enemy front edge, then 20-30 minutes will be enough. But the tension was such that after the flights were completed, the pilots were literally pulled out of the aircraft - they no longer had the strength to get out of the cockpit. By the end of the war, some girls had more than sorties over 1000, and many had 800-900. This is really a gigantic job for victory.
      2. Alf
        +1
        6 October 2019 21: 47
        Quote: Vadim T.
        Yes, and with the U-2 comparison is not very. These aircraft fought worthily on the fronts of World War II, and the miracle of technology called Lysander was ingloriously beaten.

        U-2 was never used as a front-line bomber, only a night one, and Lizander threw at Dunkirk during the day without cover. That’s why wild losses.
        1. +2
          7 October 2019 11: 25
          Quote: Alf
          U-2 was never used as a front-line bomber, only night

          In the afternoon, they also flew for bombing.
          On February 14, Korsun-Shevchenkovsky was taken. However, the enemy, who concentrated a powerful armored group on Lysyanka’s direction, did not abandon attempts to release the encircled troops On the same day, Air Force Commander-in-Chief Marshal A. A. Novikov arrived at Vatutin’s headquarters. He ordered that all available forces immediately hit enemy tanks, but due to very bad weather it was impossible to carry out this order. The 291st ShAD attack aircraft sent to the mission were unable to get to the target due to the blizzard and icing. The next day, 4 Il-2s with half bomb load set off for attack. Only 3 aircraft reached the target (a pair of senior l. And Pavlov and senior l. Rykov). and the fourth had to take a forced one. Having made several approaches, they destroyed a small number of tanks and vehicles, but to stop the advance of the enemy, of course. could not. Then Novikov found a non-standard solution, throwing light aircraft against the tanks of the 208th night air division. Each Po-2 was equipped with cartridges, which contained up to 250 anti-tank 1kg bombs. Early in the morning of February 5, the German tank divisions attacked 15 Po-91s, which turned out to be more suitable for operations in difficult weather conditions. than the IL-2 Unexpected attack stunned the enemy, many tanks were disabled. After clarifying the results of the strike at 2. 12, a repeat of 00 Po-63s was repeated. As a result, the enemy’s attempt to break through the ring was thwarted.

          © Aviation in the battles near Korsun-Shevchenkovsky in February 1944 "Aviation", № 6'2004.
  2. +1
    6 October 2019 06: 11
    creepy freak odnak
  3. +4
    6 October 2019 07: 33
    Can it still be compared not with the U-2 and Storch, but, for example, with the P-5, P-10, Hs126?
    1. 0
      6 October 2019 20: 01
      Quote: mark1
      Can it still be compared not with the U-2 and Storch, but, for example, with the P-5, P-10, Hs126?

      Compared to the destination. Which is logical. And the basic machine, Lysander, and not this cart :)
      1. 0
        7 October 2019 06: 37
        I think it is still not worth comparing an airplane created for combined arms use with a light-engine training biplane and claiming that the first one turned out much better. Vaughn is a "crutch" worthy opponent.
  4. +1
    6 October 2019 07: 34
    Cats. Naturally!
    Interesting article.
  5. +6
    6 October 2019 08: 57
    P.12 Lysander Delanne

    British scientists ... airplane fighting booty forward - that's fine. The rudiments of tolerance are felt.
    1. +1
      6 October 2019 13: 08
      Quote: Gray Brother
      British scientists ... airplane fighting booty forward - that's fine. The rudiments of tolerance are felt.

      "It's not so simple" (c) laughing

      The famous author P. Bowers argued that, I quote,
      "This aircraft ... was supposed to be a low-cost training aircraft for training tail gunners."

      And in that capacity he would be very good
      1. 0
        6 October 2019 19: 18
        Quote: Spade
        And in that capacity he would be very good

        In a single copy, yes. We dabbled down the drain. And their Hurricanes were rubbish.
        1. 0
          6 October 2019 21: 25
          Quote: Gray Brother
          In a single copy, yes

          In the series did not go, saved. So that...
        2. Alf
          +3
          6 October 2019 21: 44
          Quote: Gray Brother
          And their Hurricanes were rubbish.

          It depends for what time. For the time of creation, a completely normal plane, by 41st, is outdated. But it was these "workers' wars" that pulled the Battle of Britain out.
      2. 0
        6 October 2019 19: 58
        Quote: Spade
        P. Bowers argued that, I quote,
        "This aircraft ... was supposed to be a low-cost training aircraft for training tail gunners."

        Oh well .. For the preparation of shooters for the eyes enough ground-based simulators. Moreover, radio-controlled targets were not used then. And without them, what is the arrow to prepare for? To accustom to height? :)
        1. +2
          6 October 2019 20: 30
          Yes, not quite enough. It is enough to tilt the person by 15-20 degrees and the entire orientation in the thread went. And this is not a disorientation due to the vestibular apparatus, just the coordinate system has been shifted to you. Try to get into the bomber in IL-2 and switch to the arrow of the turret - the dump of the head. And if you also choose a nimble bomber like SM-79, which maneuvers when attacking from behind, then in general you get lost who is hitting you from where and where you need to shoot. And I am silent in general about the rear gunner of IL-2 - people of death looked in the face in every departure.
        2. +1
          6 October 2019 21: 27
          Quote: Saxahorse
          Moreover, radio-controlled targets were not used then.

          They say that the "progenitor" of this aircraft was actively involved in dragging "cones"
          1. 0
            7 October 2019 22: 31
            Quote: Spade
            They say that the "progenitor" of this aircraft was actively involved in dragging "cones"

            I was just thinking about cones. As someone they are on a quad turret, behind, will drag :))
        3. Alf
          +1
          6 October 2019 21: 52
          Quote: Saxahorse
          To prepare shooters for the eyes, ground-based simulators are enough. Moreover, radio-controlled targets were not used then. And without them, what is the arrow to prepare for? To accustom to height? :)

          It is good to shoot at a paper target in the shooting range, lying behind the bag. Calm down, flies don't bite, bullets don't whistle. But in the field "for some reason" the percentage of hits is sharply reduced. I wonder why ?
          1. 0
            7 October 2019 22: 39
            Quote: Alf
            But in the field "for some reason" the percentage of hits is sharply reduced. I wonder why ?

            Probably because an overdose of adrenaline interferes. Shooting at the shooting range and shooting at the "Messer" beating at you with all the barrels is far from the same thing. Therefore, all these turrets were rather psychological weapons, they rarely hit, but at least the enemy pilots were made nervous.

            But from the point of view of preparation, there is no difference. That he is on a ground-based, moving simulator, he will train a trigger to press that in the air to ride it, spend gasoline. The air is even worse, there is no room for a sergeant!
      3. Alf
        0
        6 October 2019 21: 41
        Quote: Spade
        tail cannon mounts

        I wonder what British aircraft Bowers found a fodder GUN turret?
        1. 0
          7 October 2019 10: 44
          Quote: Alf
          I wonder what British aircraft Bowers found a fodder GUN turret?

          Or the Soviet Bowers translator laughing
          1. Alf
            0
            7 October 2019 17: 25
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: Alf
            I wonder what British aircraft Bowers found a fodder GUN turret?

            Or the Soviet Bowers translator laughing

            This mystery is great.
  6. 0
    6 October 2019 09: 29
    In the traditional Lysander, the fuselage contours resemble Zero.
  7. +7
    6 October 2019 10: 22
    It seems that the French slammed the idea.
    Arsenal-Delanne AD 10C2 39g. development:

  8. 0
    6 October 2019 19: 59
    Really original machine. Although in practice, of course, such a turret is probably of little use.
  9. +1
    6 October 2019 20: 47
    P.12 Lysander is an interesting "try" constructor. Maybe the rear landing gear should have been made retractable? For PMV, such a "design scheme" would be appropriate for "tests", in WWII it would be better to "save" 4 machine guns and a pilot-gunner. Today as a flying museum piece good sorry pitched crying
  10. 0
    7 October 2019 20: 34
    The British in the 30s really "dropped" with turrets. Let's remember "Design" or "Rock". The Britons themselves called these planes - "catch me up so I can shoot you down." There was no sense in them.

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