Horsemen in museums. A little about each

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The cavalry rushes, the sword sparkles, and the spears glisten; there are many killed and piles of corpses: there is no end to corpses; they stumble over their corpses.
Book of the Prophet Nahum 3: 3


Military museums of Europe. In Europe, and in the USA too, there are many museums, the subject of which allows them to be attributed to the military. However, today we are only interested in those in which knightly armor is exhibited. And not just armor, but mannequins of riders and horses, which they could ride in their lifetime. Because the task of the museum is not only to preserve various valuable "junk", but also with its help to educate people of our time. The armor itself is interesting, but you need to strain your mind to imagine how they sat on the human body. Put them on a mannequin - great! But the knight was a horseman, he had a saddle, stirrups ... How did he use all this, how, sitting on a horse, towering above the crowd? That is, if we put a knight fully armed on a horse’s figure, the educational effect of this will be incomparably higher.




Knight's Cavalcade of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art. On the rightmost figure is the armor for the horseman and horse of the Duke of Saxe-Coburg Johann Ernst (1521 – 1553), the work of the Nuremberg master Kunz Lochner (1510 – 1567). Production time approx. 1548 g. Rider armor weight: 25.4 kg. Horse armor weight with 41,73 saddle kg.


Of course, there are many “buts.” Firstly, just like that, knightly armor worn on a mannequin cannot be put on a horse dummy. You need a headset, that is, a saddle and stirrups, as well as horse armor, suitable specifically for the armor of the rider sitting on it. But there are fewer such headsets than the armor itself. Why? Yes, simply because when chivalry was outdated, horse armor lost all meaning earlier than knight armor. They could be put in their castle for the sake of beauty, and for the exposition of horse armor it was required ... a stuffed horse. Making a good stuffed animal cost a lot of money, and then it was necessary to look after it, protect it from moths, clean it from dust, and all this was an extra headache, which did not add significance to the owner of the armor. For example, in the Czech castle Gluboka nad Vltavou, cuirassier armor hangs in large numbers on its walls inside a huge hall solely for the sake of beauty, but the dummy of the horse on which the knight sits in “Maximilian armor” is just one. And such horses occupy a lot of places, but they are of little use. Moreover, they can smell, and how could this or that noble mistress put up with this? Yes, she did not put up! The armor, if they so warm her husband’s soul, is in the arsenal, and we will hand over the horse armor to the junk man, as long as the husband is away. In this or something like this way, a lot of horse armor of the late period was lost, and even earlier ones - those made of fabric, leather and chain mail can be forgotten altogether - not one of them has been preserved! Although chainmail horse armor is mentioned already in the French documents of 1302 of the year.


Horse armor from Italy, approx. 1580-1590 The armor shown in this photo is covered with an engraved ornament in which there are leaves, mythological creatures, as well as heroes of the biblical and classical storiessuch as David, Goliath and Mark Curtius. The excellent quality of the engraving and the preference for the general decor indicate the origin from Brescia - the second most important production center weapons in northern Italy after Milan. Brescia was the main supplier of weapons to the Republic of Venice. We were in the arsenal of Counts Collalto in the castle of San Salvatore, near Treviso. This is one of the few full horse armor that has survived since the end of the 16th century, since cavalry in heavy armor at that time played an increasingly smaller role in the war. These armor were probably made for Count Antonio IV Collalto (1548 – 1620), possibly in the 1589 year, when he was appointed commander of the Venetian army. Armor weight is 42,2 kg (Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York)


Horse armor engraving from Italy, approx. 1580-1590 years, close-up


The Army Museum in Paris exhibited a stuffed horse of Napoleon and, I must admit, it has a very "pale appearance". It can be seen that both time and insects worked a lot on it. That is why, in fact, the riders in this museum are riding on horseback hairless, but beautifully made and well painted. And the same horse models are used today in museums in Europe and the USA, everywhere. Here you can name the world famous Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, which displays in the 371 hall a whole cavalcade of four horsemen in the armor of the French gendarmes of the era of King Charles VII. And they look very realistic and, which is also very important, are not behind the glass. Therefore, they can be photographed from any point and in detail.

Horsemen in museums. A little about each

The well-known figure of a knight in Gothic armor from the Royal Arsenal in Leeds


Very spectacularly mounted riders on the Royal Arsenal in Leeds, UK. The horseback riders attack on foot shooters is reproduced here, and there are separate figures of a samurai, a Mongolian horseman, a knight in Gothic German armor. Interestingly, the shield for the Mongolian rider was made by our Russian historian V. Gorelik. As expected, he wove it from the rods, wrapped them with colored threads, choosing a pattern, in general, he did a tremendous job. Well, but the shield looks like a real one.


This horseman and this shield (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)



Tibetan horseman dressed in tooth-kang lamellar armor (1600-1699) (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)


But again, if you make a fake horse, although expensive, it is still possible where to get horse armor on it? Rebuild, how did Gorelik make a shield? But there is a big difference - one thing is a product made of twigs, leather, brushes and threads, and quite another is the mass of hammered iron, in which all details must be thought out. Today, thanks to laser scanning and 3D printing, it is quite possible to make a copy of any armor, including horse armor. And to arrange a completely modern museum of armor and knights on horseback on beautiful horses. That's just the price of such work will be off the scale. For example, an American Colt 1911A1 pistol manufactured in the usual way costs 200 dollars. And this same gun, printed on an 3D printer - more than 2000! So although the roads were real knightly armor in the Middle Ages, their copies made in metal using the most modern technologies, as it sounds paradoxical, will prove even more expensive! In any case, so far. How it will be in the future to predict is quite difficult.


Very good in Leeds and Japanese equestrian samurai


If there is a mannequin horse, then there must be a mannequin rider. Putting empty armor on a horse is stupid, since it is difficult to ensure a natural appearance. That is, it is necessary that there is also a man-mannequin and it is necessary to dress him in armor. Put on the pants, because they are visible, a shirt - which can often be seen on the bends of the elbows. But the hardest part is not this, but the horse harness. Yes, there is a saddle (they were often preserved), there is a shuffron, a mouthpiece with all the belongings, there is actually a bard - horse armor. But the cinch, the undercoat, and sometimes the bridle - all this leather and from time to time becomes unusable. Gnawing the mouthpiece, again, one must correctly give the “horse” in the teeth, fix leather ammunition on it, then metal armor ... And you still have to remember historicism all the time. For example, in 1507, Louis XII rode into Genoa on a horse, whose ears were cut off and his mane was completely shaved to give him a wild and awesome look. A similar “decoration” of a horse became fashionable even under Charles VIII, so that on some model all these features of the era could well be reproduced. But in order to do this, you need to know about it, that is, you need well-coordinated work of historians, horse breeders and horse equipment specialists, tanners and restorers. Already one - this listing shows that the cost of their services will be very expensive! Of course, you can entrust this business and ... "anyhow to whom." But then you need to be prepared in advance for the fact that in the age of the Internet your museum will receive not “likes”, but a lot of criticisms that ... will reduce its attractiveness both in the eyes of visitors and investors, and all this can end very badly.


The Battle of Pavia diorama (Royal Arsenal, Leeds)


Nevertheless, an increasing number of museums acquire equestrian figures in armor and where they are made “as they should” they always attract the attention of visitors and play an important educational role.

Well, now let's get acquainted with the horse armor itself, and then with the armor that is exhibited in various museums.


And again Leeds. The Reitar of the Thirty Years War. The horse is already without armor, on a holster on top of a valve from the rain. One thing is interesting: under the valve the pistol is stuck with a handle to the saddle or to the neck?


To begin with, there are no horse blankets on the famous Bayesian Embroidery of 1066. But it is known that horse blankets from metal plates were used in ancient Rome during the sunset of the empire, among the Parthians, then in Iran, since they are on the bas-reliefs of Iranian shahs of the 7th century, as well as in Byzantium. Byzantine cataphract riders had on their horses shells of bone and metal plates laced on a leather lining. Already in the era of the Crusades, cloth blankets, for the time being only for protection from the scorching sun, also appear in European knightly cavalry.


However, we also had wonderful expositions of riders in armor, again on hooped horses. For example, this trinity is from the Museum of Artillery and Signal Corps in St. Petersburg. The armor is excellent! Well, just very impressive armor. I would even say better than in the Metro. "Guys" are sitting like glove. Well, the shaft of the spear of the first is tied with a fishing line, that is, he does not hold it with a hand in a plate gauntlet. But this is a trifle. But the fact that the horse mannequin was made in the workshop of Baron P.K. Klodt in 1840-1850 already turns it into one of the most valuable museum exhibits - an example of how "it" was done then!

In Europe, knights met horse armor when they met on the battlefields with the Mongols of the Batu Hon. A detailed description of them was left by Plano Carpini, but the Western European knights did not borrow their device. At the beginning of the 15th century, knights defended their horses with chain mail and quilted blankets. Sometimes they were reinforced with metal or heavy boiled skin. Then horses appeared in the battlefields, in iron breastplates, and in brigandine type blankets. That is, metal plates were riveted to such blankets from the inside, so only the outlines of the plates and rivet heads were visible from the outside. But already in the XIV century, these types of protection were replaced by large solid forged metal plates that covered primarily the chest, neck and croup of a horse. It was these parts of the animal’s business that were the most vulnerable ... for the arrows of archers and arbalester, who loudly declared their power on the battlefields of the Hundred Years War. Such armor entered the mass use of chivalry in the middle of the 15th century. It was at this time that the heavy knightly cavalry began to massively use plate armor to protect their horses, and this practice continued for about ... 150 years. An interesting feature of such horse armor was the pair of umbons on a chest metal plate. By the sixteenth century, such armor had reached its maximum perfection, and at the beginning of the century even corrugated "Maximilian" armor appeared, and also with umbons in front.


And this horse, covered in blanket (it’s clear that a remake, but a remake is good!) Is also from the same workshop. But ... as always, we have something missing. There is a bridle, but there is no mouthpiece. And the reins are attached to ... a bridle! Alas, the "coexistence" is indestructible here!


Typical European horse armor made of forged metal plates - the bard consisted of the following main parts:
- shaffron (muzzle),
- krineta (collar),
- peital (bib),
- krupper (nakrupnik),
- and two flank shards (side plates).



This is what a typical medieval mouthpiece of that era should look like. Well, they would ask some museum to sell it to them ... This is the mouthpiece of a knight's horse of the period of approx. 1550 years, and as you can see, it was very difficult to arrange. Not only is it richly decorated, apparently, in accordance with the general decor of armor, it is perfect as a mechanism. Inside it is the so-called jaw chain, which served ... "to entertain" the horse, which, playing with her tongue, caused itself to salivate and thus relaxed the jaw muscles.

It is believed that this mouthpiece is made to a luxurious ceremonial headset for man and horse, made in Italy in the 1550s for Archduke Ferdinand II of Austria (1529-1595), (stored in the Museum of the History and Art Museum in Vienna). It is known that Ferdinand ordered several sets of horse equipment. It is possible that this mouthpiece belonged to this headset, if only the workshop that made it did not put it “on stream”. In any case, this is a complex device, indicating a good knowledge of the anatomy and physiology of the horse and the ability to apply to them for more flexible management. (Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York)


And some mouthpieces were also seated with spikes so that they could not be seized by the enemy (Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York)


Many VO readers are interested in the thickness of the metal that went into the manufacture of armor including horse armor. So, it was on horse armor that the thickness of the armor was of particular importance. The fact is that the iron armor with a thickness of only 1,5 mm, covering the horse's face, neck, chest and croup, in total weighed no less than 30 kilograms! To these should be added a metal-bound saddle, other ammunition, and then the weight of the rider himself, and the weight of his armor, which could also have a weight of 27 to 36 kilograms. That is, to make such armor even thicker meant to overload the horse, which was undesirable in all respects. But on the other hand, thin metal was convenient for minting, and besides, the large surfaces of horse armor made it possible to carry out large chased images on them.


Crinet, made approx. 1535 g. Master Valentin Siebenbürger (Nuremberg, approx. 1510 – 1564, master from 1531 g.) Length 95,2 cm); width 29,9 cm; weight 3070 g. (Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York)


To be continued ...
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  1. +8
    6 October 2019 06: 37
    Very interesting. The engraving is amazing.
    And the version of the victory of comfort that women arrange is sensibly told.
    1. +10
      6 October 2019 06: 52
      Salute to all!
      Damn right on the patient !!!
      . Moreover, they can smell, and how could this or that noble mistress put up with this? Yes, she did not put up! The armor, if they so warm her husband’s soul, is in the arsenal, and we will hand over the horse armor to the junk man, as long as the husband is away.

      You build a house, take away a wall in the lobby for weapons, horns and all that !!! And your soulmate!
      The wall is sunny. Pot here, pot there. And go with your pieces of iron back to the boiler room.

      Regards, Vlad!
      1. +6
        6 October 2019 07: 17
        "And the wife shouts:" I am a seagull, they say, I am a seagull! "
        "And I am Siegfried, I answer, nicht ferstein!" "(C) laughing
  2. +6
    6 October 2019 06: 43
    Oh, in the Hermitage, I remember that such knights stuck for a long time. And in general in the hall. And I really wanted to hold all these pieces of iron in my hands ..
    1. +8
      6 October 2019 08: 20
      Quote: Van 16
      And I really wanted to hold all these pieces of iron in my hands ..

      In the Artillery Museum, by the way, such an opportunity has been realized, partially compensating for the desire to touch the exhibits. In the middle of the "knightly" exposition is a chair with a helmet, sword and shield. Anyone wishing to "poyuzat" can take advantage of this opportunity. New-builds, of course, but they fulfill their function of pulling off the "playful hands".
      1. +9
        6 October 2019 10: 12
        Guys, hello!
        You will not envy the restorers in the Art Museum, every day to scrub everything after those who want to get iron. Iron persists from human sweat if it is not immediately cleaned and greased, and female sweat is much more poisonous than male, I seriously say as a restorer. I saw a lot of ruined blades. The owner brings, say, a saber, pulls it out of its scabbard, and there, on the blade, there are completely rusty fingerprints with a clear outline of the papillary lines, and the engraving has generally eaten rust. It's a shame.
        And if they decided to arrange such an attraction there, then let a grandma sit next to her in a blue robe and sell cotton gloves to those who wish, as in hospitals shoe covers on their feet. And "things are safe and people are full," but the grandmother is profitable.

        And Vyacheslav Olegovich Mercy and bow low. hi
        1. +5
          6 October 2019 10: 34
          Granny is present, she can be seen in the photo in the article. Almost all exhibits, with the exception of riders, are behind glass, which nifiga does not contribute to photographing. Incidentally, it is free, unlike the Hermitage, where permission for it must be purchased separately. A huge minus of the Art Museum is the uninformative signs accompanying the exposition.
          1. +7
            6 October 2019 10: 43
            Every time I came to St. Petersburg, I "spent the night" in turn at the Art and Maritime Museums. In Artillery, I once managed to climb in the backyard, it was something. Even Shemyakin's nightmare, depicting Peter, whom we stumbled upon after jumping over the fence, did not spoil the good mood. True, by this moment we were already warm, this probably saved us from a nervous shock. drinks
            1. +5
              6 October 2019 11: 02
              Quote: Sea Cat
              Shemyakin's nightmare

              There are more successful works in St. Petersburg with a better geographical location.
              1. +7
                6 October 2019 13: 36
                For me, this was enough for the rest of my life. wassat
                1. +6
                  6 October 2019 13: 39
                  In vain you are so, Konstantin. The monument to the first builders of St. Petersburg is very good and is in the right place.
                  1. +6
                    6 October 2019 13: 43
                    I didn’t want to offend anyone, all the more so since I didn’t see the monument to the builders of St. Petersburg in the eyes and until now did not even know about its existence. request
            2. +3
              6 October 2019 19: 23
              Shemyakinsky Peter. - something. One can compare Tsereteli + one of the evangelists with him. Faint of heart, please do not watch
              1. +1
                7 October 2019 17: 25
                Svyatoslav hi If Shemyakin's work can simply "like" or "dislike", then Zurab for his "creativity" should just be shot! And for each "creation" separately. That's how many times I've done - so many times and get standing by the wall. stop
  3. +6
    6 October 2019 06: 52
    Rider Armor Weight: 25.4 kg. The weight of horse armor with a saddle is 41,73 kg.

    Just a small tank in battle ....

    That's interesting.
    Thank you.
    1. +6
      6 October 2019 07: 05
      + from 30 to 50 kg the weight of the armor and weapons of the knight himself, and even he himself was not a “hamster” under a hundred he could weigh easily !!!
      1. +3
        6 October 2019 11: 11
        Not everyone possessed such outstanding anthropometry. Rather, they were few. I didn’t look closely at the armor of the knights, but I came to the conclusion that the people of those eras were small, small, but strong. In hand-to-hand fighting, of which there were most, the knight is an iron doll .
        1. +4
          6 October 2019 11: 29
          However, since the War of the Roses, knights have increasingly preferred to fight on foot. Such is the "puppet" masochism.
          1. +7
            6 October 2019 13: 48
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            since the war of the Roses, knights increasingly chose to fight on foot

            Greetings, Anton.
            The "fashion" to put knights on foot appeared much as before. Already under Crécy, Edward III strengthened the formation of his archers with dismounted knights. And in the Wars of the Roses, the knights were forced to dismount primarily by a tactical necessity - battles took place either within the boundaries of settlements (St. Albans), or represented an assault on a fortified camp (Northepton, Towton, Tewkesbury), or it was necessary to overcome a natural obstacle - a river or a ravine (Barnet). Well, plus castle sieges. The cavalry simply had nowhere to act. Where circumstances permitted, the cavalry was used with might and main and very willingly. Almost the only classic battle - the Battle of Bosworth, in which Richard III died, was fought by both infantry and cavalry, and Richard himself went on his last attack as part of a horse detachment.
            1. +4
              6 October 2019 14: 22
              My respect, Michael!
              Undoubtedly, I will not dispute the facts, I just wanted to note for Ivan that the knights were not afraid to dismount and did not at all represent an easy prey, and even more so "whipping boys."
              1. +7
                6 October 2019 15: 18
                I will add that dismounting is not only a tactical but also an economic "technique". The prices for the horses were astronomical, and they were an excellent target, they needed horse armor - and this made the cost even more expensive.
                About the height of the people who wore armor. In the Vienna Arsenal, he specially evaluated the dimensions of the armor. It is important to read the years of creation there. For example, there are several pieces of Philip II's armor on display, of which three are in one place. That king was already puny, and from the explanatory plates we can conclude that they were made on his 18-20th birthday. I remember that people grew more slowly then. And I am less surprised at the "childishness" of the armor. By the way, some of the armor is clearly made to fit the wearer's beer belly. It seems natural, but it looks funny
                In general, of course, they were not whipping boys. I gave a link describing the fights of those times. The usual thing was to get a wound in the face, lost a weapon, but did not give up, climbed into the clinch, grabbed his hands. In real combat, it must be assumed that the case was even more fierce.
                1. +4
                  6 October 2019 15: 34
                  Quote: Engineer
                  I gave a link describing the fights of those times

                  By the way, as I promised, I read the texts, wanted to unsubscribe, but put off everything, and then forgot. smile
                  By the way, it seemed to me that the above texts rather confirm my point of view (remember, we discussed "dirty" tricks and their application in tournaments). Cases of "noble" behavior towards a rival, of course, are noted, but they are especially noted as something outstanding, worthy of imitation, and not at all an ordinary event. From this, it seems to me, it is possible and necessary to conclude that such a "noble" behavior was, rather, not the norm, but an exception. The stakes were too high in tournaments, given the cost of the armor that had to be bought from the winner for noble behavior to become even an unwritten rule, let alone a written one. So they fought seriously and tried to achieve victory by all available means, and the winners are not judged, which was one of the conditions for the entertainment and intensity of the fights.
                  But in general, the people in those days were simple. The more blood and guts, the more interesting it is to watch. He won - well done, lost - he’s to blame, not well done.
                  1. +6
                    6 October 2019 15: 47
                    I greet you.
                    Discussed about the dirt and the atmosphere.
                    The more blood and guts, the more interesting it is to watch.

                    This conclusion does NOT come out in any way. In case of aggravation of the situation and increased risk, the judge threw the rod on the field and the fighters were separated. They were allowed to fight, there was no fist to beat. (I can give an example where the knight still fought back, but earned a censure) I do not want to repeat myself. BUT I add that in the link about medieval battles (not the one about de Lalena) there is a very interesting case. Two knights whose old scores had a fight at the duke's court. The fight is fierce but no one is inferior yet. Then the manager unilaterally stops him. Announces that both maintained a reputation, both fought worthy. Now make peace and call each other brothers. If this is not proof of courtesy, then I don’t know then)
                2. +5
                  6 October 2019 16: 01
                  The link is interesting! Thank you Denis!
                  1. +4
                    6 October 2019 16: 02
                    To health)
                3. +4
                  6 October 2019 16: 15
                  Quote: Engineer
                  Horse prices were astronomical

                  At the beginning of the XIV century. - about 80 tour livres per war horse.
                  1. +4
                    6 October 2019 16: 19
                    Discas on the price of equipment. Who needs
                    https://vk.com/topic-21105920_30732467
            2. +1
              7 October 2019 09: 36
              Already under Cresy, Edward III strengthened the ranks of his archers with dismounted knights.

              and under Poitiers the attack of dismounted knights turned into a nightmare for themselves ... what
        2. +4
          6 October 2019 16: 28
          On the subject of the composition of knights and not only them
          From the series, guess the favorite pastime of Duke Ulrich von Württemberg

          And this is Mr. Frundsberg. Judging by the armor, the real bear was
          1. +3
            6 October 2019 17: 17
            And what year dates the production of armor for Herr Frundsberg?
            1. +4
              6 October 2019 17: 36
              Augsburg approx. 1525
              1. +4
                6 October 2019 18: 27
                OK. All clear. Judging by the holes for a spear hook, this gentleman did not have money for a full headset and used three-quarter combat armor for all occasions. Which, however, does not detract from its military virtues.
                1. +2
                  7 October 2019 09: 40
                  three-quarter combat armor for all occasions

                  among the landsknechts, whom he was, it was popular! drinks
            2. +2
              7 October 2019 09: 39
              Herr Frundsberg?

              is it in honor of him that the Nazis then called the 10th SS Panzer Division?
              1. +2
                7 October 2019 10: 35
                He is. His armor is really large in all sizes
                1. +3
                  7 October 2019 10: 40
                  He is. His armor is really large in all sizes

                  what is the positive point of the forum - it gives a lot of related information. Denis, I bow! hi
                  1. +1
                    7 October 2019 11: 00
                    You're welcome
          2. +3
            6 October 2019 17: 35
            ,,, and maybe the pot-bellied armor was specially made? recourse Well, like the inclined armor of a tank.
            1. +3
              6 October 2019 17: 46
              There are such designs - an angle (or a wedge, whatever you like) in the abdomen so that the spear glides, but it looks much more harmonious. And then I directly presented the "body kit". The proportions are very realistic)
              1. +3
                6 October 2019 17: 50
                ,,, that just will not do request lol
                1. +4
                  6 October 2019 19: 34
                  Perhaps his tummy was too big?
                  1. +2
                    6 October 2019 19: 37
                    ,,, but this is most likely a remake, so the joke is humor, somebody’s at home lol
                2. +3
                  6 October 2019 22: 26
                  Not one flask can fit.
            2. +3
              6 October 2019 17: 55

              Here is a forward-looking wedge-shaped piece for protection in the area of ​​the ileum on tournament armor
              And here she is, but on the field armor "for a fat man"

              And this guy flaunted during his lifetime aspen waist in the style of Elizabeth of Austria
              1. +3
                6 October 2019 18: 09
                Dear Denis! You have great photos, but sharpness ... what is the reason?
                1. +3
                  6 October 2019 18: 11
                  "Xiaomi-top for your money" (c)
                  laughing
                  1. +3
                    6 October 2019 18: 21
                    I think it was about harsh judgments. And xiaomi really steers.
                    1. +2
                      6 October 2019 18: 48
                      The harshness of judgment? I will be more careful
              2. +2
                6 October 2019 18: 13
                aspen waist
                ,,, yes no one can fit into this armor belay
                1. +3
                  6 October 2019 18: 20
                  the tablet to them has not been preserved. In memory of some very young carduelis
                2. +1
                  7 October 2019 09: 42
                  Yes, no one will fit into this armor

                  Sergey .. worms are a terrible thing ... belay all my hands before eating!drinks
                  1. +3
                    7 October 2019 22: 40
                    ,,, and disinfection of spiritus feel
  4. +3
    6 October 2019 07: 03
    Thank you very much.
  5. +4
    6 October 2019 07: 32
    I remember a cat playing with a rabbit's foot and drove it somewhere .. after a couple of weeks I had to look where wassat
    Taxidermy is a complicated thing, especially if the stuffed animal should keep on one hundred kg on three legs. Really rare are such exhibits in museums
    1. +6
      6 October 2019 07: 55
      Yeah, we, too, somehow the dog bought a yummy, dried pork hoof. Then they ventilated the apartment for three days!
      1. +4
        6 October 2019 15: 46
        dried pork
        ,,, survived, hamon fed dogs laughing
        Stirlitz has never been so close to failure.
        1. +6
          6 October 2019 15: 51
          Yes, in general, she does not care, she sweeps the banana skins like a veal tenderloin.
          1. Alf
            +4
            6 October 2019 22: 00
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Yes, in general, she does not care, she sweeps the banana skins like a veal tenderloin.

            Mine is the same. I call her Food Processing Factory. What do not give, eats without looking. Even a kiwi and pineapple blizzards without chewing.
            1. Alf
              +4
              6 October 2019 22: 07
              Quote: Alf
              I call her Food Processing Factory.

              Guarding the world and the refrigerator.

              Master, let me have breakfast, I haven’t eaten all night.
            2. +4
              6 October 2019 22: 13
              Yeah, only citrus does not tolerate the spirit. If you want the dog to roll away from you, clean the thick-skinned orange! Half an hour without a confession of allegiance guaranteed.
  6. +6
    6 October 2019 08: 11
    Thanks for the article, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    Very good in Leeds and Japanese equestrian samurai
    It became interesting if someone could determine the clan affiliation of a warrior by the monk on the flag?
    1. +4
      6 October 2019 17: 31
      It became interesting if someone could determine the clan affiliation of a warrior by the monk on the flag?
      1. +3
        6 October 2019 17: 35
        Victor Nikolaevich! I was waiting! I believed! The categorical speech of Vyacheslav Olegovich had no continuation. However, you have restored the good name of Akeshi Mutsahido.
        1. +3
          6 October 2019 17: 57
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          However, you have restored the good name of Akeshi Mutsahido.

          Strange, but I googled something completely different.

          This is Vika whispered ...
          1. +6
            6 October 2019 18: 08
            ,,, it becomes interesting bully
            How is it, friends?
            A man looks at cherry blossoms
            And on the belt is a long sword!
            (C)
            1. +4
              6 October 2019 18: 39
              Cherry blossoms
              The sword is not a hindrance
              A drop of blood will tint the petal.
            2. +3
              6 October 2019 22: 28
              One of my favorite hoku.
          2. +2
            6 October 2019 18: 11
            Vladimir, let's have a look at VikNick’s rain
            1. +3
              6 October 2019 18: 31
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Vladimir, let's have a look at VikNick’s rain

              More specifically, we both did not take into account the circle.

              This is probably important. recourse
              1. +5
                6 October 2019 18: 43
                But still, the Toki clan is likely. Here from the Japanese online store:
            2. +3
              6 October 2019 20: 24
              There is no contradiction. The Aketi clan is a branch of the Toki clan. Vladimir Vicki did not finish reading.
              1. +3
                6 October 2019 20: 28
                Quote: Undecim
                There is no contradiction. The Aketi clan is a branch of the Toki clan. Vladimir Vicki did not read

                I agree.
                Several clans claim to be descended from the Toki clan, including Asano, Akechi, Ibi, Osu, Tawara, Toyama, Fumizuki and Funaki.
                .
                But the main one is the Toki family.
                1. +4
                  6 October 2019 23: 04
                  But the main one is the Toki family.
                  I’ll try to explain why I chose Akechi.
                  The Royal Leeds Museum has several sets of samurai armor that got there at different times and in different ways. The first two were donated by the Shogun Tokugawa Hidetad to King James the First of England and entered the museum in 1614 and did not leave the museum. The fate of the Second Set, which supposedly belonged to Takeda Katsuyori, is more dramatic, but the mon on it is preserved and that it belonged to the Takeda clan is beyond doubt.
                  The third set entered the museum in 1841 through auction purchases. This armor was a diplomatic gift to the Spanish king Philip II in 1585. Subsequently, she transferred to the collection of the Duke of Infantado, and then was sold to London as armor of the "Moor of Granada." He is currently recognized as a rare example of the late Muromachi combat armor.
                  Until the 1950s, nothing was acquired, then the collection was supplemented by donation, purchase and transfer from other museums.
                  You yourself understand where and whose armor the museum staff may not know exactly.
                  I would suggest the following. If the mon was taken not from the lantern, but in accordance with the heraldry on the armor, then most likely this is the first of two sets donated by Tokugawa Hydedata. He could fall into the Tokugawa clan as a trophy, Tokugawa Ieyasu (the father of Hydeath) at the battle of Yamazaki defeated Akechi Mitsuhide. The option, of course, is not indisputable, but rather probable.
                  1. +3
                    6 October 2019 23: 28
                    Quote: Undecim
                    If the mon was not taken from the lantern, but in accordance with the heraldry on the armor, then most likely this is the first of two sets donated by Tokugawa Hydedata. He could fall into the Tokugawa clan as a trophy, Tokugawa Ieyasu (the father of Hydeath) at the battle of Yamazaki defeated Aketi Mitsuhide. The option, of course, is not indisputable, but rather probable.

                    Quite. Although I am in Japanese history almost complete zero.
  7. +3
    6 October 2019 08: 29
    Yes, great.
    Very impressive.
    But the Hermitage group of knights for some reason did not impress ...
  8. +5
    6 October 2019 08: 38
    But there are fewer such headsets than the armor itself. Why?

    ,,, in our village there was a collective farm stable, well, in the village many had horses. We specially went to the stable to ride horses, the stable allowed. With the beginning of the 90x, everything went cold. Now there is no collective farm either. After all, there must have been a whole industry in the union what which made hardware (nails, horseshoes, metal parts of harnesses, clamps, bridles, saddles). Now there are probably no people who could make a sobbing (cart) or sled, or correctly forbid a horse. Did they whip? My father got a couple of times crying Now it’s rare to see a horse alive.
    1. +5
      6 October 2019 08: 51
      Sergei hi
      Quote: bubalik
      Now there are probably no people who could make a sob (cart)

      They do it! Through third hands, I know such a person in Sestroretsk. With sleds, it’s more difficult, there you need to bend the tree into skids. The process is long and hemorrhoids.
      1. +5
        6 October 2019 08: 54
        3x3zsave (Anton) Today, 09: 5
        hi
        They do it!
        ,,, I do not deny that not at all, but very little. And right Anton, say that
        The process is long and hemorrhoid
        Therefore, they use modern materials whenever possible for replacement.
        It’s harder with a sled, there’s a tree
        ,,, but for the reddish, the wheel is not modern, but wooden? It’s also difficult.
        1. +6
          6 October 2019 09: 10
          Well, in any case, some professions die out as a result of technological progress. Now, after all, it would never occur to anyone, for example, to put glass on a window putty. But even about 50 years ago there was such a profession - glazier.
        2. +4
          6 October 2019 09: 15
          Quote: bubalik
          Therefore, they use modern materials whenever possible for replacement.

          Only not in the reconstruction environment. Russian reenactors, they are like that, give them authenticity of production!
          1. +8
            6 October 2019 09: 21
            -Oh, Wan, look - the reenactors,
            Everything is beautiful as a selection!
            Do you see this one in a white cape?
            Really Uncle Chernomor ?!
            -You, Zin, in the squabble of Naraivissi
            And people, you see, stand spruce.
            In the morning, the swords of the namahatets,
            Then they lie in tents all day.
            And the fact that the fume around -
            So, Zina, it has nothing to do with it! .. bully
            1. +3
              6 October 2019 09: 40
              good
              Quote: bubalik
              And the fact that the fume around - So, Zina, has nothing to do with it! ..

              When the reenactment "festivals" were spontaneous, such things happened.
              Today, I heard, "dry law" among the participants is a rule. And among the "most respectable public" the police maintain order.
          2. +3
            6 October 2019 09: 43
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Give them the authenticity of production!

            Well, they still do not climb the swamps, in search of ore. Or are they looking? belay
            1. +5
              6 October 2019 10: 02
              No, I have not heard about such maniacs, but I was a witness to the purchase of a German overcoat (authentic!) From WWII times. For sewing a modern overcoat is "low class, bad game!" negative laughing
    2. +3
      6 October 2019 19: 47
      Sergei, if you need something, I think I can make a light sled. With his father, once did. But they will come out to you in a good "penny". Even if I do it for 50% of the cost
      1. +2
        6 October 2019 20: 00
        vladcub
        Today, 20: 47
        ,,, thanks of course, but as Anton said above, technological progress request many specialties and things become history drinks
  9. +3
    6 October 2019 08: 45
    The Reitar of the Thirty Years War. The horse is already without armor, on a holster on top of a valve from the rain. One thing is interesting: under the valve the pistol is stuck with a handle to the saddle or to the neck?
    Well, in theory, the pistol grip should be opposite to the "gusset" of the valve.
    1. +4
      6 October 2019 10: 16
      But what the hell is a gun for him? It is impossible to get into a horse from him at twenty paces, but at thirty he does not pierce a leather tunic. And to shoot on armor is generally an empty number. Well, if you only shoot horses in the eye, but which horse allows you to do this with you? laughing
      1. +2
        6 October 2019 10: 44
        Quote: Sea Cat
        But what the hell is a gun for him?

        Poke nuts, why else!
        1. +3
          6 October 2019 10: 47
          Sybarites are freaking! One word - Romanians! drinks
      2. +1
        8 October 2019 09: 02
        Reitarskaya tactics - to approach the formation by 15-20 meters, discharge a couple of pistols, turn around while reloading - the second row shoots, etc. - "snail".
  10. +4
    6 October 2019 09: 49
    ,,, and did the armor for the dogs too?
  11. +6
    6 October 2019 09: 54
    The shogun shit on the carpet.
    The way of the woolen warrior is difficult. what
    1. +4
      6 October 2019 10: 37
      Seryoga, it's good to run into cats! We will be offended, but there are many of us here. am
      1. +4
        6 October 2019 10: 43
        nice to run into cats!
        ,,, who runs over? am ,,, according to the topic, discuss armor Yes
        bully
        1. +3
          6 October 2019 10: 45
          That's it! Nothing, do you panim (ellipsis). drinks
          1. +5
            6 October 2019 10: 58
            Completely "cat lovers" unbelted !!! am
            1. +4
              6 October 2019 11: 16
              ,,, drown? belay
              What a harmful animal.
              КогоThis is who you mean, let me ask you?
              ―Cota I mean. Such a bastard.

              Yesterday cats were choked, choked, choked, choked, choked, choked ... feel
              1. +3
                6 October 2019 11: 21
                At first I thought to start the "tank", then I decided that I would manage with a dog team. With a machine gun on a sled.
                1. +2
                  6 October 2019 13: 41
                  Both the Cats have already dealt with the tank and the dogs. Look at the floor above the post of our mutual friend Sergei. laughing
                  1. +3
                    6 October 2019 13: 43
                    Persist, then we will be in heresy?
                    1. +3
                      6 October 2019 14: 02
                      will we be in heresy?
                      ,,, oh, pulled a haze laughing recently only, the Congregation, re-read.
                      Malleus Maleficārum study guide feel
                      1. +4
                        6 October 2019 14: 14
                        And here I am enjoying the research by O. Togoeva dedicated to the "Criminal Register of the Shuttle Fortress"
                      2. +3
                        6 October 2019 14: 22
                        ,,, recourse well, we are dark people, more and more, tabloid, read, we use, crap request crying
                    2. +2
                      6 October 2019 15: 19
                      We are like Giordano Bruno - for truth at least for the fire!
                      And how Phoenix will be reborn from the ashes again!

                      "There is a well-known entrance from the yard,
                      Under the name of the back door,
                      In that staircase as on the estate
                      The Black Cat lives.

                      He does not demand, does not ask,
                      His yellow eye burns
                      Everyone brings him
                      And he says thanks ... "(C). request
                      1. +5
                        6 October 2019 15: 43
                        That's just so that Giordano Bruno doesn’t express himself very much, while burning, he can get an iron gag in his mouth — you can breathe, but he can’t yell. This technique was widespread, like ironclad masters of iron
                      2. +2
                        6 October 2019 16: 10
                        Ivan hi, Thanks for the gag info, didn't know. Only you didn’t understand me a bit, I didn’t understand myself, good, I meant on the frying in a fire. For truth, it is completely optional to jump into the fire yourself, it is much more effective to send those who would like to burn you there. smile request
                      3. +2
                        6 October 2019 15: 55
                        I would beware of comparisons with Bruno, the most infamous person
                  2. +3
                    6 October 2019 13: 51
                    Both with a tank and with dogs

                    ,,, caught recourse laughing
                2. +2
                  6 October 2019 15: 33
                  Here I decided to help a little, out of respect, flowed to season, but, here's bad luck, an affront turns out. And you will, my dear, only one machine gun and sledges with a drunken musher, and the Chukchi dogs ate for a snack. request

                  "I'm truly sorry, Bob, that your bay one broke her leg ..." hi
                  1. +2
                    6 October 2019 15: 47
                    Ndaaaa. Kuklachev was not lucky with touring in Anadyr! Who knew that cats on the tundra go badly.
                    1. +4
                      6 October 2019 16: 06
                      A cat in a dog sled? Even Kuklachev did not dare to do this, for he knows the old truth well: the cat ALWAYS walks by itself! I don’t want to say anything bad about dogs, a dog is a “man's friend” ... until it grabbed his throat.
                      Everyone has probably heard of a revolver called the Velodog, but no one has ever heard of a revolver called the Velokot. And why? But because it never existed in nature. There was no need for people to fight off cats, as from a bad dog that bites every wheel that rolls past its nose. smile
                      1. +6
                        6 October 2019 16: 10
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Everyone must have heard of a revolver called the Velodog,

                        I also want such a thing to shoot frantic cyclists into the arc.
                      2. +2
                        7 October 2019 18: 13
                        "I want one too,"


                        Anton, hit the weekend on Bakhmutka, there at a reasonable price they will offer you the most modern with a grenade launcher and an automatic fire translator.

                      3. +4
                        7 October 2019 18: 38
                        No, buddy. As our comrade Corsair4 quoted as saying: "Do not be in time for morning, it hurts early to hang."
                      4. +3
                        7 October 2019 19: 33
                        "Got up early this morning, no Luis Corvalan.
                        Here it is, here it is - the junta has worked. "(C)
              2. +4
                6 October 2019 13: 34
                Darkness! "The cat is an ancient, sacred and inviolable animal!"
                Go and argue with the Hippopotamus ... laughing
                1. +2
                  6 October 2019 13: 41
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  Darkness!

                  We weren’t graduating from academies, only the Page Corps.
                  1. +4
                    6 October 2019 13: 46
                    Well, given the complete lack of presence, for the first time, so be it. Go in peace, peasant ... love
                    1. +3
                      6 October 2019 14: 16
                      "And they went scorching in the sun,
                      Repeating: "God judge him!" "(C)
                      1. +4
                        6 October 2019 14: 24
                        "Past the lists, temples,
                        Past the temples and bars
                        Past the chic cemeteries
                        Past the big bazaars
                        Peace and grief past
                        Past Mecca and Rome
                        The blue sun is burning
                        Pilgrims are walking on the ground "(c).
                      2. +3
                        6 October 2019 14: 31
                        "We walked over the quiet city,
                        Walked the streets and roofs
                        On the ledges, alleys,
                        Bearings and bushings, "(c)
                      3. +3
                        6 October 2019 14: 39
                        "A soldier walked, not knowing obstacles,
                        There was a soldier, losing friends.
                        It often happened, went without a break,
                        The soldier was walking forward "(c).
                      4. +3
                        6 October 2019 15: 00
                        "The road is not dusty,
                        Do not tremble sheets
                        Wait a bit,
                        You will also rest "(c)
                      5. +4
                        6 October 2019 15: 11
                        "And only dust under the boots,
                        God is with us and the banner is with us
                        and a heavy carbine * at the ready ... "(C)

                        * (Lee-Enfield # 5 Mk I "Jungle Carbine") soldier
                      6. +4
                        6 October 2019 15: 01
                        A soldier went in deep sorrow
                        At the crossroads of two roads,
                        Found a soldier in a wide field
                        Grass overgrown bump.
                        (C)
                  2. +2
                    7 October 2019 08: 37
                    [Actually, in the Page Corps they gave good training. Among those who graduated from the Page Corps, there was Count N.P. Ignatiev, one of the central streets of Sofia bears his name
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              3. +2
                6 October 2019 19: 50
                Bulgakov "Heart of a Dog"
  12. +3
    6 October 2019 13: 02
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    It became interesting if someone could determine the clan affiliation of a warrior by the monk on the flag?

    Nothing is easier ...
  13. +3
    6 October 2019 13: 55
    Sergei, it was in St. Petersburg that I published books for schoolchildren "Knights" and "Crusaders". So there each chapter was supplemented with an artistic story ("travel in a time machine"). There were many such heartfelt stories.
  14. +4
    6 October 2019 16: 44
    Knight's Cavalcade of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art.

    Great photos, add a couple of amateur ones.
    By the way, the tablet says that this exposition with three horsemen was decorated by a specially invited employee of the Hermitage Tarasyuk.

    1. +4
      6 October 2019 17: 08
      Quote: Comrade
      Hermitage employee Tarasyuk

      L. I. Tarasyuk is generally a legendary person who became the prototype of the hero of one of Weller's stories (see Legends of Nevsky Prospect). By the way, at the time of the creation of the "knightly" exposition of the Metropolitan Museum, he was no longer an employee of the Hermitage for a long time, but quite a scientist with a worldwide reputation and a US citizen.
      1. +4
        6 October 2019 18: 37
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        L. I. Tarasyuk ... was no longer an employee of the Hermitage, but rather a scientist with a worldwide reputation and a US citizen.

        Thanks for the info, interesting.
        The question, of course, is of secondary importance, but there is reason to believe that Tarasyuk’s 1975 d, when he organized the installation of the knightly cavalcade at the Metropolitan Museum, he was American citizenship.
        We will take into account that Leonid was released into Israel in 1973 d, where he worked as deputy director of the Maritime Museum in Haifa. And only then, having received a grant, Leonid came to the USA as a research scientist. However, granting a grant to a foreigner does not imply granting him citizenship either, and even within such a short time.
        1. +2
          6 October 2019 18: 49
          Judging by his acquaintance with Jacqueline Kennedy, it could have been. And then, the procedure for obtaining American citizenship 40 years ago and now, these are two big differences.
          1. +2
            6 October 2019 19: 34
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Judging by his acquaintance with Jacqueline Kennedy, it could have been. And then, the procedure for obtaining American citizenship 40 years ago and now, these are two big differences.

            A. Einstein arrived in the USA on 17 on October 1933, but despite all the merits to the States and acquaintance with the powers that be, citizenship was given to him only seven years later, in 1940.
            1. +2
              6 October 2019 19: 42
              Did Einstein lay claim to him?
    2. +3
      6 October 2019 19: 55
      Comrade
      Today, 17: 44

      ,, great photos good
  15. +1
    6 October 2019 18: 13
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    Akesh Mutsahido.

    Aketi Matsuhide -Sh is not in Japanese!
    1. +3
      6 October 2019 18: 43
      But Takeshi Kitano, the poor fellow, does not know.
  16. +1
    6 October 2019 18: 31
    No wonder! It mattered not only the drawing, but also the color. In a circle or without a circle. Simple characters are not enough ...
  17. +1
    6 October 2019 19: 03
    Quote: kalibr
    W no in japanese!

    This is not what I came up with.
  18. +1
    6 October 2019 19: 05
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    it is important.

    Это важно!
  19. +4
    6 October 2019 19: 11
    A small lesson in mathematics: the weight of horse armor with a saddle is -41,73, the knight's armor is about 30+, the knight himself is at least 70 kg, otherwise he will not be able to raise the armor. Total 141 kg. I do not envy the knight's horse, but if I have to ride?
    1. +3
      6 October 2019 19: 23
      Quote: vladcub
      I do not envy the knight's horse, but if I have to ride?

      So you need to train better! laughing But still, with such a weight - he’s not old, not old ....
    2. +2
      6 October 2019 19: 24
      vladcub
      Today, 20: 11

      ,,, and horses special for knights were recourse ? ,,, without prejudice to health, the weight of the load should be no more than 1 / 5 of the weight of the horse.
    3. +2
      6 October 2019 19: 43
      Quote: vladcub
      knight minimum 70 kg

      I'm afraid that in those days the average weight was by no means 70 kg. A lot less
      1. +1
        7 October 2019 08: 44
        Do you want to say that the knights have fun 40-45kg? It seems doubtful to me, and therefore we ask V.O.
        1. +1
          7 October 2019 10: 05
          Quote: vladcub
          Do you want to say that the knights have fun 40-45kg? It seems doubtful to me, and therefore we ask V.O.

          "Commoners" and did not reach 50 average weight. The knights were rich people and ate much better. Therefore, they were taller and heavier in height and weight. But 70 kg and 170 cm were already considered giants)
  20. 0
    7 October 2019 10: 43
    Question to those who are fond of the history of armor, reenactors and just knowing
    Why are there such spikes? Pure decor?
    I also noticed on the elbow pieces (empty square, just indicated the place) on other armor.
    You can easily injure a horse or a squire, especially in the second case.
  21. +1
    7 October 2019 14: 50
    Chic products.
  22. 0
    8 October 2019 10: 22
    Quote: Engineer
    Why are there such spikes? Pure decor?

    Yes!
    1. +1
      8 October 2019 10: 51
      And on the elbow? It’s impractical because it’s completely and dangerous. One-eyed squire, one-eyed lady of the heart, one-eyed horse). Only you in armor stand smile with a beautiful fashionable decor)
  23. +1
    8 October 2019 13: 12
    Well, you don’t want to say that he still kicked with his elbows with spikes? Or was the horse butt-pointed on the shuffron? Ponte, pure ponte!
    1. +2
      8 October 2019 14: 28
      Yes, I'm talking about everyday situations:
      Honey, give a hug .....
      Hans, are you slowing down there (turns around with a raised elbow) ... op ....
      And yes, show-offs are more expensive than money.
      1. +2
        8 October 2019 14: 49
        And so it could be direct in Hollywood: clinch, grappling, the enemy's eye is mounted on the chest spike. Or Thai elbow exactly in the palpebral fissure am Bloodsuckers. Everything as Michael wanted)
  24. 0
    8 October 2019 19: 22
    Quote: Engineer
    One-eyed squire, one-eyed lady of the heart, one-eyed horse)

    A drunken knight throws a plate glove in the face of a squire ...
  25. 0
    23 November 2019 20: 10
    Knights Hermitage
    The Hermitage, the Knights' Hall, a group of comrades on horseback. Of particular interest is the far right in black. It looks like the preserved complete set of armor, for the knight and for the horse