It’s for sure “Granite”: in China they called the “main weapon” of Russia against the USA AUG

Found in China weaponwith the help of which Russia can fight with American carrier groups. According to the Chinese publication Sohu, the granite anti-ship missiles have the greatest potential for confronting US aircraft carriers.

Russian anti-ship missiles "Granite" are the best means of combating American aircraft carriers, the author of the article published on the Chinese portal is convinced. In his opinion, it was precisely these RCCs that were mentioned in a recent interview by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu when he spoke about counteracting US carrier strike groups (AUGs). According to the head of the military department, the United States is investing in the creation of the AUG, while Russia is investing in the fight against them, which is much cheaper and more effective.

In his interview, the Russian Minister of Defense did not name specific means of combating American aircraft carriers, but according to the author of the article, of all Russian anti-ship missiles, only Granite has a sufficient flight range to defeat the AUG. The author notes that this anti-ship missile can hit targets at a distance of up to 600 km, while the protection zone of an aircraft carrier group does not exceed 550 km.

Granite "just meets all the requirements of Russian weapons aimed at forming a strike against aircraft carriers

- the author declares, adding that the missile can carry a nuclear warhead with TNT equivalent in 500 kilotons, which allows you to hit the largest ships in the sea.

Comments

[NEXUS]

Granite is already inferior in range to Onyx-M, which has a range of 800 km. At the same time, Onyx-M is the same in size as Onyx, which means it can be launched from launchers that are already on our ships and coastal complexes.

[Sky strike fighter]

Yes, but RCC Granite remains a powerful weapon to this day.

TTX missile P-700 "Granite"

Length - 8.84 m
Case Diameter - 1.14 m
The diameter of the transport and launch container - 1.35 m
Wingspan - 2.6 m

Starting weight - 7360 kg
The mass of the warhead - 750 kg

Range:
- 700-800 km (on a high-altitude trajectory, according to the technical specifications of the military-industrial complex under the USSR CM 1966)
- 200 km (on a low altitude trajectory, according to the technical specifications of the military-industrial complex under the USSR Council of Ministers in 1966)
- 500 km (according to TTZ VPK at the Council of Ministers of the USSR 1968)
- 700 km (altitude path)
- 200 km (low altitude trajectory)
Airspeed:
- 3500-4000 km / h (according to the TTZ military industrial complex under the Council of Ministers of the USSR 1966)
- 2500-3000 km / h (according to the TTZ military industrial complex under the Council of Ministers of the USSR 1968)
- 1.5-1.6 M (at low altitude)
- 2.5-2.6 M (at high altitude)
Flight altitude:
- 200-24000 m

https://dfnc.ru/katalog-vooruzhenij/morskie-raketnye-kompleksy/p-700-granit/

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Yes, but RCC Granite remains a powerful weapon to this day.

TTX missile P-700 "Granite"

Length - 8.84 m
Case Diameter - 1.14 m
The diameter of the transport and launch container - 1.35 m
Wingspan - 2.6 m

Starting weight - 7360 kg
The mass of the warhead - 750 kg

Range:
- 200 km (on a low altitude trajectory, according to the technical specifications of the military-industrial complex under the USSR Council of Ministers in 1966)
- 1.5-1.6 M (at low altitude)
Flight altitude:
- 200-24000 m

https://dfnc.ru/katalog-vooruzhenij/morskie-raketnye-kompleksy/p-700-granit/

200 meters now is not a small height.
Now small is from 5 to 25 meters ..
so granite has little chance of defeat along a low-altitude flight path. and zero on high-speed, but also high-altitude (over 20 km) trajectory.

[Incvizitor]

Also "zircon" is on the way.

[usr01]

Here it is not clear - all the time the Chinese "experts" are quoted. To me too - the highest truth.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: usr01

Here it is not clear - all the time the Chinese "experts" are quoted. To me too - the highest truth.

Chinese experts take their data from the Topvar forum from opus writers ...
Accordingly, the cuckoo praises the rooster. for that. that he praises the cuckoo ...
But Topwar moderators - it seems to me they don’t understand anything at all in military equipment and military news.

[Thrifty]

In fact, upgraded granite can fly at a speed of 4m, and at a maximum range of the same 800 km. Only they have undergone such modernization of everything can be a little more than a couple dozen rockets.

[Ugolek]

It is unclear why this Chinese footcloth is being placed here at all. This is nonsense. In terms of rocket science, where they studied we taught. And they will, this yellow newspaper, write about rockets, and this jaundice to place this site? What, there is no longer enough normal news and material?

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Thrifty

In fact, upgraded granite can fly at a speed of 4m, and at a maximum range of the same 800 km. Only they have undergone such modernization of everything can be a little more than a couple dozen rockets.

And why not 10M?
and where did you get that nonsense. who write7

[Mountain shooter]

There are fewer and fewer ships for the launch of Granit, and more and more for the launch of Onyx ... And why 500 kt? To have the whole warhead with one warhead? In short, I will not read the materials of the Chinese "experts" anymore ...

[huntsman650]

They are looking for and on submarines, on long loafs, that’s it))) Wolf pack, Americans call them), granites. And if you charge the special reserve, then the khan of the whole aug, from one KR, you even have to get on, somewhere undermine nearby, non-contact babaching)))

[rotmistr60]

Russia is a means of combating them, which is much cheaper and more effective.

As they say - comments are unnecessary. It is also necessary to figure out who was involved in the arms race (this is taking into account the previous articles about the "lament" of American generals).

[Kontrik]

Khan Augam ... So much money in the pipe heh heh. With these galoshes, now you can only scare Somali pirates, and even that ..

[rocket757]

About nothing! There is no and will not be AUG in the vicinity of our shores with any specific goals, objectives .... for many reasons.
And coastal complexes are and will be, so that all sorts of bad thoughts in some hot minds do not even arise.

[novel66]

Victor, hi do we need aircraft carriers ??

[rocket757]

Question, questions!
Hello Roman
Modern military doctrine, defense! It does not provide for the design of power anywhere, whatever ... purely AUG is not required.
How it will go further, I can't imagine .... political "games", it's a murky business!

[novel66]

rather, economic ... which is even more muddy

[aszzz888]

Something the Chinese later realized. "Onyx" has already been tested, both sea and land versions.

P-700 "Granite"
Navy URAV Index: 3М45
P-700-Granit sketch.svg
Sketch of anti-ship missile P-700 "Granite"
Type Anti-ship missile
Status is in service
Developer Union of Soviet Socialist Republics NPO Mashinostroeniya (OKB-52)
Chief Designer V.N. Chelomey
Years of development 1969-1983
Beginning of testing November 1975 of the year
Adoption on July 19, 1983[1]
Manufacturer NPO Machine Building
The main operators Naval Ensign of the Soviet Union (1950–1991).svg Soviet Navy
Naval Ensign of Russia.svg Russian NavyParameter Value
Length, m 10
Diameter, m 0,85
Wingspan, m 2,6
Starting weight, kg 7000
Speed ​​at height, M 2,5
Speed ​​at land / water, M 1,5
Range, km 550 (625) along the combined trajectory,
145 (200) along an exceptionally low altitude path
Ceiling, m 14 000-17 000 on the marching section,
depending on the trajectory scheme
Minimum flight altitude, m up to 25 (at the attack site)
INS + ARLGSN management system
Warhead Penetrating 518-750 kg (data differ) or
nuclear, up to 500 ct

[Chaldon48]

Nuclear power of 500 kt in my opinion is excessive, but maybe I'm wrong.

[2 Level Advisor]

Sohu is a type of tape .. to serious things a little less than completely irrelevant .. why are they on VO?

[APASUS]

Yes, what kind of RCC Granite, this system will turn 300 years old at lunch and why would Chinese experts suddenly like it so much?

[Adimius38]

nothing better than granite has yet been invented

[TermNachTer]

And why not upgrade it, taking into account modern technologies. After all, with current technologies it can be lightened by a kilogram by 400-500 or vice versa, using weight to increase range or speed.

[Old26]

Quote: NEXUS

Granite is already inferior in range to Onyx-M, which has a range of 800 km. At the same time, Onyx-M is the same in size as Onyx, which means it can be launched from launchers that are already on our ships and coastal complexes.

"Granite" DOES NOT TREAT on range "Onyx-M". At least due to the fact that "Granit" exists, and "Onyx-M" has not yet begun to pass flight tests. And it is not known how they will go and how long they will last. Do not put the cart in front of the horse when this cart is not yet there.

Quote: Thrifty

In fact, upgraded granite can fly at a speed of 4m, and at a maximum range of the same 800 km. Only they have undergone such modernization of everything can be a little more than a couple dozen rockets.

And where do these modernized Granites stand? And what is the use of 800 km of range if there are at least target designation means?

Quote: Mountain Shooter

There are fewer and fewer ships for the launch of Granit, and more and more for the launch of Onyx ... And why 500 kt? To have the whole warhead with one warhead? In short, I will not read the materials of the Chinese "experts" anymore ...

Yes, the whole order does not work out with one warhead. Drown Aircraft Carrier - Yes, Really

Quote: Chaldon48

Nuclear power of 500 kt in my opinion is excessive, but maybe I'm wrong.

Watching for what. Drowning an aircraft carrier with a direct hit is even redundant. Drowning an aircraft carrier without hitting it is possibly even insufficient (it all depends on the distance of the point of explosion from the aircraft carrier), drowning an AUG is definitely not enough.

[Operator]

The supersonic "Granites" and "Onyxes" are a receding nature, their maximum flight altitude is within the air defense / missile defense zone of potential adversaries of the Russian Federation, and when flying at low altitude, the range of these missile launchers drops three times, forcing the missile carriers to enter the air defense zone / PRO.

In the short term, the Zircon hypersonic missile systems and Russian medium-range ballistic missiles in the dimensions of a unified ship-borne silo, the speed, height and range of which are located outside the air defense / missile defense zone, rule.

[Maalkavianin]

If I'm not mistaken, Granite is an outdated weapon. And it seems that we have not produced it for a long time.

[SovAr238A]

Quote: Malkavianin

If I'm not mistaken, Granite is an outdated weapon. And it seems that we have not produced it for a long time.

He has already been removed according to the technical schedule where they could ...

[Nikolay87]

The Ministry of Defense has already reacted to this news. They say "Caliber, cooler".
https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3194208

[Old26]

Quote: Nikolay87

The Ministry of Defense has already reacted to this news. They say "Caliber, cooler".
https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3194208

Bullshit. In the first lines it is clear that the author is "neither an ear, nor a snout." There is no need to read anything after the phrase that "Caliber" is faster than "Granite". Immediately, with the naked eye, the professionalism of the author of this opus is visible in sucking news from the finger