How and why Ukrainian society and the ruling elite have changed

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The victory in the elections and the strengthening of the power of the Zelensky team with an unusually high confidence rating for the course of the new president surprised many and raised many questions. Why did this happen and how to explain it? The point here is not so much in Zelensky as in the current system of government in Ukraine and fooling the population.





Prerequisites for the change of generations of the ruling elite


The decisive factors that ensured Zelensky’s triumph were the catastrophic decline in the living standards of the population, the war in the Donbass, public distrust of all ruling and opposition political forces, the high level of expectation of changes in the population, and the successful and timely project of Kolomoisky “Servant of the People” with new faces and populist slogans.

This was facilitated by the discrediting of the Poroshenko regime. The collapse of the economy, repression against dissidents and the unleashed war in the Donbass turned the overwhelming majority of the population against the government and strengthened the desire to get rid of the hated regime.

By this time, the political field in Ukraine had been cleared. Recent ideological parties, such as the Communist Party of Ukraine on the left and the nationalist "Freedom" on the right, have lost their authority and have been reduced to marginalized power. There were only “leadership” parties under a particular leader, fully controlled by the oligarchs.

The oligarchs ruled the country through their pocket parties. Akhmetov and Firtash relied on the Opposition Bloc, Poroshenko had his own party of BPPs, Pinchuk and Soros promoted Vakarchuk, the Americans supported Pinzuk Yatsenyuk, Kolomoisky relied on Vozrozhdenie and his unsuccessful Ukrop project, supporting Tymoshenko . Akhmetov, as always, laid eggs in different baskets and additionally supported Poroshenko, Tymoshenko and the “Radical Party” Lyashko. Medvedchuk with his movement “Ukrainian Choice” fell out of big politics and was looking for options for return. Rabinovich on populist slogans launched his commercial project "For Life", preparing it for sale and soon successfully implemented Medvedchuk.

All these parties were not much different from each other, represented by well-known people who had repeatedly changed their political affiliation, defended the interests of the oligarchy and, having gained power by joint efforts, plundered the resources of the state and population. By the time of the fall of the Poroshenko regime, the population did not trust any of these parties and was ready to support anyone, but not these disgusting people.

The population longed for an improvement in their well-being and wanted an end to the war; they had to present new, unlit faces and promise to satisfy their wishes. Kolomoisky, being a good chess player, calculated the upcoming generational shift of the Ukrainian political elite and two years before the presidential election began to prepare for them. He launched the series “Servant of the People”, in which Zelensky played a major role and became associated in the eyes of the population with a “messiah” that could rid the people of the rule of the oligarchs and stop the war.

Kolomoisky’s bet on Zelensky


If Pinchuk relied on Vakurchuk, known for his Galician-peasant mentality, Kolomoisky put forward the comedian Zelensky, who is popular in the southeast and in the center and has nothing to do with politics, who skillfully criticizes any Ukrainian government from the stage. The bet turned out to be true, Zelensky, immediately after the New Year’s nomination for president, began to score points with his promises to stop the war and within a month sharply broke away from other candidates. The Americans, seeing such a situation, already in February began to focus on him and introduced their people to his team.

Kolomoisky and the Americans, taking advantage of the high level of expectation of Ukrainian society for change, threw him a “carrot” in the form of a charismatic Zelensky. The vast majority bought this bait and voted for it with unprecedentedly high support - 73%.

At this stage, Zelensky was the only one on the political field that could be relied upon from the point of view of the average man, and he confidently won, despite all attempts by his competitors to discredit the “hope of the nation."

After being elected president, Zelensky and his team continued the “peacekeeping” tactic of fooling, promising the establishment of peace for the East and West of Ukraine. In the parliamentary election campaign, they also succeeded, they got a majority in parliament and they can even achieve a constitutional majority situationally.

At the stage of the election campaign, this was understandable, but now, despite the ongoing failures in the economy, the escalation of hostilities, bellicose rhetoric against Russia and the refusal to comply with the requirements of the Minsk agreements, Zelensky has an extremely high level of social support, his rating is off scale and has already reached 79%! It would seem that he did nothing specifically, and yet society believes him. How can this be explained?

Apparently, this is due to the current state of Ukrainian society and the actions of the Zelensky team that satisfy his wishes. Over the years of the reign of the Poroshenko regime, Ukrainian society has fundamentally changed; it has been duped so much that it has ceased to adequately perceive what is happening. A powerful and deceitful brainwashing campaign across all Ukrainian media channels with anti-Russian hysteria of unprecedented proportions has achieved its results.

Changes in Ukrainian society


For five years, everyone was driven into the head that Russia was to blame for all the troubles of Ukraine, it was an aggressor country, it occupied Crimea and the Donbass, it wants to completely conquer Ukraine and deprive it of statehood. In confirmation of this, the bodies of dead military personnel and fighters of punitive battalions, which were put on public display, were constantly coming from the combat zone to all regions of Ukraine, and all this was broadcast on television. With these actions, the society escalated an atmosphere of hatred for everything Russian.

Information came only through official media channels, authorities restricted the flow of alternative information, Russian television channels, printed matter and even the Russian segment of the Internet were blocked. After the rout of the “Russian spring”, there were practically no pro-Russian sentiments in society; any positive statements about Russia were regarded as hostile propaganda and were severely suppressed by the authorities.

In the absence of alternative information, the majority trusted this nonsense, and society was united by the efforts of the authorities to repel the "inevitable Russian aggression." In the minds of many citizens of Ukraine, Russia began to look like the fiend of hell, which will inevitably attack a defenseless Ukraine.

Nobody wanted to delve into the fact that the reason was the coup organized by the oligarchs and the seizure of power by the nationalists and Nazis, whom the American curators skillfully set against Russia. The curators needed obedient puppets who would continue Poroshenko’s policy, rob the state and continue the war. Such people were found in the person of the proteges of Kolomoisky, who are far from politics and government, who were recruited, it is ridiculous to say, on the Internet. The necessary slogans were put into their mouths, and the position of Zelensky’s team laid on fertile public soil.

The young generation is “sucked”


It cannot be said that managed ignoramuses were in power, this is not so, the new team and their curators are working competently and have achieved impressive results. They were able to remove the previous generation of the Ukrainian elite from power and reset the monsters of the Ukrainian ruling class. From the top echelon of the previous generation, only Medvedchuk with his closest associates remained as the official opposition, as well as Avakov, who by the efforts of Kolomoisky and the Americans had so far been left in Zelensky’s team and whom this team would probably try to remove.

The top echelon of the ruling class has been completely renewed; measures are being taken to replace the middle managers. Who replaced? These are mainly people aged 30-45 years who have no experience in either economic or public administration. Almost all of them passed the school of Western funds and grants, these are the pupils of Soros - “pigs”. Mentally, they are absolutely pro-Western, they have no experience of life in the Soviet Union, and Ukraine is for them an initially independent state, not connected by any ties with Russia. For them, this is something otherworldly, and in Russia they see an enemy ready to destroy their state.

They are ambitious and sincerely believe that Ukraine should be pulled out of Russian embrace and built into European civilization. They are alien to the Galician-peasant mentality and Galician nationalism. They are convinced of the possibility of transforming Ukraine according to Western patterns into a prosperous European country. Their worldview does not rise to the level of analysis of the reasons that led Ukraine to such a deplorable state. They do not realize that Ukraine is being used as an instrument of struggle with Russia and the West do not give a damn about Ukraine. He will never invest in creating a powerful state on this territory.

A new generation from another system, they are impudent and, seeing that they can win, they become even bolder in their actions, bend their line and achieve success. They are ready to serve the puppeteers faithfully, for them Russia is the main enemy and every effort should be made to weaken the enemy. At the same time, they clearly understood that Ukraine cannot survive without economic ties with Russia, and they are trying to build these relations, excluding any political interaction and any alliances.

The level of trust in the new generation of the Ukrainian elite in society is extremely high. This is due to the fact that Ukrainian society, in which the level of expectation and social optimism is very high, has matured by the arrival of a new generation of elite. The population, as manna from heaven, is waiting for an improvement in living conditions and hopes for a "messiah" who will come and do everything right, and in Ukraine there will come almost an earthly paradise.

The world outlook and mentality of the modern Ukrainian population over the years has changed a lot, life priorities have also changed, it has become more pragmatic and seeks to look in the direction where it is more profitable. Ukropropaganda has done its job and in many ways erased the general history, and drove into the heads of myths and legends about the "great Ukrainian nation", which has always fought against the Russian occupation.

In many ways, we have become strangers, they recall with dislike the joint Russian and Soviet past and focus not on Russia but on the West. Ukrainian society is gradually becoming west-oriented and believes that only the West can protect it from Russian aggression.

There was no one to rely on the population among the Ukrainian elites, and then a young team of reformers brought up in the West appeared, which promises to solve all their problems. New faces say the right words and the West almost carries them in their arms.

So from the dummy created the image of the "savior of the nation." Zelensky’s team and Ukrainian society have found each other and so far enjoy themselves with rapture. The hangover will be all the worse when everything collapses and it turns out that the king is completely naked and is not capable of anything.
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  1. +1
    1 October 2019 05: 32
    The previous ones are worse ... and even worse. The present ones will also bore you. Although, the people seem to be cleaner, they all "changed for soap" !!!
    1. +9
      1 October 2019 06: 47
      Quote: rocket757
      The previous ones are worse ... and even worse. The present ones will also bore you. Although, the people seem to be cleaner, they all "changed for soap" !!!

      Do you really see the difference between them ??? belay
      In My opinion - This is just a change of sign and surname!
      1. 0
        1 October 2019 07: 03
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Do you really see the difference between them ???

        I didn't talk about the difference and I'm not going to ... only at the expense of the alleged "washing"! Although even here doubts "gnaw" because relatives complain strongly, they fear that it will be difficult for them with hot water. may not be at all!
      2. +5
        1 October 2019 07: 05
        It's like in the Theater ... scene two - the participants are the same! laughing
        1. +1
          1 October 2019 08: 52
          Quote: Hunter 2
          It's like in the Theater ... scene two - the participants are the same!

          Caught on open spaces:
          -----
          Hang on stage in the first act
          Chainsaw, bucket and hedgehog
          Intrigued by Stanislavsky
          Afraid to go to the toilet

          ------
          smile
        2. +3
          1 October 2019 08: 55
          Quote: Hunter 2
          It's like in the Theater ... scene two - the participants are the same! laughing

          I completely agree! Under capitalism, those in whose hands property and means of production always rule ... In this sense, no changes have occurred in Ukraine ...
      3. +1
        1 October 2019 16: 22
        Quote: ANIMAL
        In My opinion - This is just a change of sign and surname!

        Lampedusa Rule:
        "For everything to remain the same, everything must change."
        This is from the film (novel) "Leopard" (Il Gattopardo) there, too, about Garibaldi's "revolution" in Italy
      4. +2
        1 October 2019 19: 05
        There really is no difference. A new team came - Soros, Shmul Kamenetsky and Kolomoisky. The same guidelines - the sale of Ukraine in bulk and retail, united by Geyropa and the Washington Reich Chancellery.
    2. +2
      1 October 2019 07: 31
      Quote: rocket757
      The previous ones are worse ... and even worse. The present ones will also bore you. Although, the people seem to be cleaner, they all "changed for soap" !!!


      The abstract "people" is much worse than some people think.
      1. -1
        1 October 2019 07: 49
        Quote: SovAr238A
        The abstract "people" is much worse than some people think.

        They were all like family! So the question arises, is it they "sorted out" or we left them ahead ???
        1. +3
          1 October 2019 08: 23
          And the Bulgars were not native, and the Greeks for whom the Hellenophiles of all nationalities, including Russians, laid their heads, and how many of our compatriots fought under the banners and Gaiibaldi, I'm not talking about the Spanish Republic. Where is the memory and sorrow of these victims.
          1. +2
            1 October 2019 08: 41
            There were a lot of things! We are a people who live on emotions! To love like that in Russian, to the grave ... quarrel so utterly!
        2. +2
          1 October 2019 08: 42
          Quote: rocket757
          They were all like family! So the question arises, is it they "sorted out" or we left them ahead ???

          I think when such a question arises, here everything outweighs the "independence", which is above all. But this is only in appearance. But here, something is wrong. There was such a Getvan Mazepa, warmed by the tsar and ascended beyond that. He was the uncrowned king or ruler of the whole of Little Russia, was the largest landowner not only in Little Russia, but also in the Empire. It seemed that more was needed. But here again the "boot reflex" is triggered. The boot can be licked, but you can also get it in the face) and Mazepa is sold to the Swedes. And what has changed since then, but nothing "the boot effect" works in the same mode. (He kissed, got a cookie, and then on the "face" with the same boot).
          1. +1
            1 October 2019 08: 47
            Quote: tihonmarine
            The boot can also be licked, but it can also be obtained by physiognomy) and Mazepa is sold to the Swedes.

            No, not beating ..... in the face they got for WHAT THAT, and not just like that. Need a reason / reason.
            1. +2
              1 October 2019 09: 23
              Quote: rocket757
              No, not beating ..... in the face they got for WHAT THAT, and not just like that. Need a reason / reason.

              There would be a face, but there is always a reason.
          2. +2
            1 October 2019 10: 57
            They have a very strange independence. All strive for someone to sell, but tryndy about independence. Such independence from independence? We want to be independent! But the guide is Jews. Or is it so Ukrainian nationality is alternatively called?
            1. +1
              1 October 2019 12: 07
              Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
              They have a very strange independence. All strive for someone to sell, but tryndy about independence

              Already flooded minus, oh, as though the eyes pierces.
              1. 0
                1 October 2019 18: 03
                So I will throw the truth:

                The World Bank confirmed the forecast for the growth of gross domestic product of Ukraine in 2019 at the level of 2,7%. Gross domestic product of Ukraine from 2012 to 2019 (mln. UAH.):

                Years ______ Nominal GDP ____ Real GDP
                2012 - 1408889_
                2013 - 1454931_
                2014 - 1566728_
                2015 - 1979458_
                2016 - 2383182_
                2017 - 2982920_
                2018 - 3558706_

                Well? Hooray-patriots, the numbers do not fit with your comments.
                1. +2
                  1 October 2019 22: 37
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Well? Hooray-patriots, the numbers do not fit with your comments.

                  Well, that’s good, people live at home, don’t travel with earned money, the dollar is stable. But I live in Tallinn and my office has an office for hiring workers (the company works through Poland). At 4,5 hours, euros work on 10 hours. Salaries are delayed, deceived, but with us still divine. I wish you success in your work and a happy weekend.
                  1. +2
                    1 October 2019 23: 02
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    Quote: Fan-Fan
                    Well? Hooray-patriots, the numbers do not fit with your comments.

                    In Tallinn and in my office there is an office for hiring zarobitschans (the company operates through Poland).

                    ===
                    Today I went from Riga on a regular trip to Ventspils, I see a young visitor in blue sneakers with yellow skins (just to match the colors of ukroflag), trident key chains on the bags, a plastic bag with the inscription "from Ukraine with love" and a large trident
                2. +2
                  1 October 2019 22: 43
                  Well? Hooray-patriots, the numbers do not fit with your comments.

                  The figures are interesting for you, but they have nothing to do with reality, here is a graph based on IMF data, showing dynamics and forecasts of past years ... and by the way, Ukraine will be able to reach the 2022 figures only by 2013 .... lost decade ..
                3. +2
                  2 October 2019 01: 16
                  These figures are taken from https://index.minfin.com.ua/economy/gdp/, however, some have been removed. The whole table makes a slightly different impression:
                  million hryvnia million $
                  2012 1408889 92289 7.0% 175781 12622 7.7%
                  2013 1454931 46042 3.3% 183310 7529 4.3%
                  2014 1566728 111797 7.7% 131805 -51505 -28.1%
                  2015 1979458 412730 26.3% 90615 -41190 -31.3%
                  2016 2383182 403724 20.4% 93270 2655 2.9%
                  2017 2982920 599738 25.2% 112154 18884 20.2%
                  2018 3558706 575786 19.3% 130832 18678 16.7%

                  Fan-Fan, let everyone draw conclusions about your integrity.
                  1. 0
                    2 October 2019 09: 24
                    Quote: dmitry --- spb
                    These figures are taken from https://index.minfin.com.ua/economy/gdp/, however, some have been removed.

                    Minfin.kom.ua, you would also take the data of "nigeria.minfin.com," each sandpiper praises his swamp.
            2. -1
              2 October 2019 00: 19
              Ukraine is the most ordinary woman of content, but the trouble the landlords have already begun to get tired, a lot of money is being spent on it, and there is less and less pleasure. So there was a cooling.
            3. +1
              2 October 2019 11: 00
              Well, they got this infection from their Polish gentry)))
      2. 0
        2 October 2019 11: 34
        And there is also the psychology of the crowd.
    3. +1
      3 October 2019 22: 57
      You're right. of two evils ...

    4. 0
      6 October 2019 11: 10
      In order to educate and train someone, you need to spend money (money, time, hard work). Russia profiled Ukraine. What ambassadors alone were worth? One is more beautiful than the other. So geopolitics is not done. And now you need not look down and do not do a damn thing, but think urgently and start working, and not fight
      1. 0
        6 October 2019 11: 46
        About our upper thinkers, we have already expressed everything for a long time. Do not add, do not diminish.
        About the extreme as a whole ..... about the UKRAINIANS just do not bother to figure it out ourselves, about the Kukuevs, we just wait, they themselves .....
  2. +5
    1 October 2019 06: 19
    The higher the expectations, the greater the disappointment. Well, since there is no chance of either raising the economy, defeating corruption, or conquering the Donbass (I’m not even talking about Crimea), in a year Zee and his gang will become Petya 2.0 with the corresponding ratings.
    1. 0
      1 October 2019 08: 45
      Quote: Sahalinets
      about in a year, Ze and his gang will become Petya 2.0 with the corresponding ratings.

      Everything according to Bulgakov, only the Shvondery and the Sharikovs.
      1. 0
        1 October 2019 10: 59
        Here is more likely a skillful manipulation of the consciousness of the masses.
      2. -1
        1 October 2019 17: 17
        Shaw guys, again about the Ukrainians?
        But you don’t know that we have 5 years of stagnation of the Russian economy and the last 3 years of rapidly growing Ukrainian, i.e. in terms of growth, they surpass us.
        1. +1
          1 October 2019 17: 34
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          that we have 5 years of stagnation of the Russian economy and the last 3 years of rapidly growing Ukrainian, i.e. in terms of growth, they surpass us.

          Well, the whole world knows about this, even Trump confirmed this before the GA.
        2. -2
          2 October 2019 11: 35
          The Ukrainian economy has already lost to the LDNR economy, where living conditions are better.
        3. 0
          2 October 2019 11: 36
          An example of Ukraine, as it is not sad, but a good vaccination for Russia.
    2. +2
      1 October 2019 14: 16
      So it will be, even worse, the youth darts to the Poles, there is no gas, there is no light and heat, we want a couch, in general we are a scribe, and there’s a lesson for everyone ...
  3. +4
    1 October 2019 06: 20
    100000 years in search of freebies
    1. -1
      1 October 2019 09: 25
      Quote: nivasander
      100000 years in search of freebies

      Great idea "Freebie pliz!"
  4. +3
    1 October 2019 07: 29
    Well, finally, at least someone publicly wrote that the split is irreversible.
    And those who, again and again, as if by instruction, will write that we are brother nations, are no longer brothers. There are enemies.
    1. -1
      1 October 2019 07: 45
      Yes, this is so, the current generation has only to orient itself to the West, the East does not offer anything good and there is nothing to be proud of.
      1. +4
        1 October 2019 09: 18
        Quote: Zliy_mod
        Yes, this is so, the current generation has only to orient itself to the West, the East does not offer anything good and there is nothing to be proud of.

        I will clarify the RF. For the east is just happy in the wave. China and Southeast Asia.
        there are no ideas in Russia except money, but there is no social idea at all.
        overall successfully sold.
        1. 0
          1 October 2019 09: 29
          Quote: Antares
          For the east is just happy in the wave. China and Southeast Asia.
          there are no ideas in the Russian Federation

          And no one is forcing you to take Russian ideas "The West will help you!"
      2. 0
        1 October 2019 12: 12
        Quote: Zliy_mod
        the east does not offer anything good and there is nothing to be proud of

        The East suggests "Switch on the mozie and think."
      3. -1
        1 October 2019 18: 27
        Quote: Zliy_mod
        the current generation only needs to focus on the west, the east does not offer anything good and there is nothing to be proud of.

        - This is a recognition of one's own (ukro-self-independence) creative insolvency, when the brain is empty, it remains to bluff with its high mission and super story.
    2. +4
      1 October 2019 08: 14
      A split is already taking place. It is too late to deny the obvious, to sing mantras about the brothers.
      1. 0
        1 October 2019 12: 15
        Quote: O. Bender
        A split is already taking place. It is too late to deny the obvious, to sing mantras about the brothers.

        The disease has gone far, resuscitation will not help.
    3. +7
      1 October 2019 11: 12
      The split did not begin in the 14th year, but under Gorbachev. When the parade of sovereignty began. This was the beginning of the Civil War. It began with the minds of the population. The Soviet idea was looking for common points, a modern break point. After all, not only Ukrainians flock to Russia. For some fraternal republics, we are also enemies and occupiers. These are the consequences of our rapprochement with the West. Peaceful coexistence !? It would be better to resist so far. It would be calmer.
      1. +3
        1 October 2019 12: 17
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        The split did not begin in the 14 year, but under Gorbachev.

        Most likely under Khrushchev, but we saw it under Gorbachev.
        1. 0
          1 October 2019 17: 42
          Maybe. Although Khrushchev probably began to general trends, and not specifically Ukraine.
      2. -1
        1 October 2019 15: 04
        The Ukrainization and cultivation of other independent activists began to engage in barely coming to power - in the 20-30s of the last century. Nothing to blame on the mirror. The rulers of the USSR did everything possible for the collapse and partition of the country for decades.
        1. +1
          1 October 2019 17: 51
          If they were preparing a collapse, then why did they restore the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia? The fact that Ukrainians cut industrial areas, so it had its own logic. At least a little tear from his hut and pig. And Ukraine of the 20s is not the same as in the 90s. But what they did in holy and dashing years with the distribution of Kemsky volosts! This is already a liberal-minded nomenclature tried. Yes, and today it is not yet clear which bomb is being laid and it is not known how it will explode. In general, it is interesting to know the opinion, if the Bolsheviks did everything wrong, how was it necessary to do it right? Can I suggest my version of the right thing?
          1. -2
            1 October 2019 18: 44
            1. Do not ruin and plunder the country into German money
            2. Do not rob the population and do not massacre
            3. Do not divide the population and territory, coming up with autonomous Ukrainians, Belarusians, etc.
            4. Do not hang on people’s neck useless rubbish in the form of ideology and ideologists
            And this is just for starters.
            Before the distribution of land in the 90s, the party carefully cultivated those to whom it should be distributed.
            1. -1
              2 October 2019 01: 52
              1. And who paid the Bolsheviks? To whom? To Lenin? Stamps or rubles? Transferred to a card or in cash? If in cash, then how many money did KAMAZ pay to Lenin? To whom did Lenin give out money? Ministers, generals? How much did you keep for yourself? If Lenin staged a coup, why did he constantly live in prisons, exiles and abroad? Under Tsaritsyn, the barges of death seem to have been White Guard. And the concentration camps were created by whites and interventionists. The White Guard Tchaikovsky-Miller leadership created a concentration camp on Solovki.
              2. Ukrainians declared independence to themselves back in 1917. And even then they were eager for Europe collaborating with the Germans. In 1941, there were horses running to Europe and actively helping the Nazis. After the revolution, the territories were not divided by the Bolsheviks. The same Cossacks wanted to stir up some kind of independent republic in southern Russia.
              3. Do not divide territories by nationality? And where to put national identity? Or divide the country into states like in the USA? AND
              4. And what is bad ideology? We are outraged by the excommunication of the church from the state, then we do not want ideology. Although the ideology of the Bolsheviks looks very much like the Orthodox faith. Why is a man-to-man promise to a friend and brother !?
              5. Before the distribution of land, cultivation was carried out by our incredible partners playing and fanning nationalism. And they did it for their own purposes.
              1. -1
                2 October 2019 16: 57
                1. Study the financing of the Bolsheviks before the revolution and in time. Read about their illegal seizure of power. At the same time read about the Brest Peace. Moreover, it is advisable to read history, and not propaganda. Remembering the crimes of the whites, we do not forget about the red terror and repression, collectivization and dispossession.
                Lenin lived in prisons and exiles because he was a criminal and traitor, financed from abroad. In a good way it was necessary to hang it with the whole pack a few years before the revolution. That's all. Your cries about money and KAMAZ what are the semantic load?
                2. At the same time, take a look at the size and number of that "Ukraine" and the same Ukraine, created by the wise leadership of the party.
                3. Assimilate. What they did in the Empire with varying success. Well, certainly not to impose identity, as the Communists imposed.
                States are perhaps one of the best forms of administrative division.
                4. 1) Tenacity, 2) Obligation, 3) The punishment of refusal to follow it, 4) Dogmatism, 5) Delirium, etc.
                Ps I personally am an atheist.
                5. "Partners" in the USSR had very little influence. This is solely the merit of "wise leadership".
                1. -2
                  2 October 2019 18: 15
                  Well, I read about the financing of the Bolsheviks. The Germans are not there about financing them. Yes, and logically does not fit. Was the February revolution legal of course? Like the proposal to Nicholas II? What is wrong with the Brest peace? Lenin sent Trotsky with the task of neither war nor peace. About the world as payment from Lenin for money is not necessary. Make peace with the Germans, and after peace, undergo German intervention? Into the bullshit! There is no logic. Red terror in response to white. Are the arrests of the tsarist regime of Bolshevik party members not repressions? And dispersal of the protesting population is also not repression? Oh, the tsarist regime and the whites! What collectivization do not like? The whole world lives on collectivization and is not indignant. And even preparing to go in orderly rows to the global collective farm. Mergers, acquisitions, multinational companies is not collectivization? Yes, and Putin on the last straight line admitted that the collective farm is more effective than the private trader. Although collectivization took place in the village, no one took away the personal backyard from the villagers. But today it’s not very personal. ASF today is a struggle with private owners? Moreover, a regular fight. Or fight infection? Why didn’t it exist before, but today it suddenly exists? When there is a progressive tax in the West, is it dispossession? And the village moneylenders were fists. Such microfinance organizations. money is measured today with rooms and KAMAZ. They seized the room of money, seized one and a half KAMAZ of money. So I ask. How many KAMAZ money did Lenin give? To whom did he distribute with bags, to whom with purses, and to whom with banknotes? I will not say anything about the rest.
                  1. 0
                    2 October 2019 20: 10
                    You rave with KamAZ again. This is not for me - this is for specialists.
                    The Bolsheviks were financed by all opponents of the Entente for subversive activities within the Republic of Ingushetia. Fact. About "not taken personal" is ridiculous. Study the question again and don't talk nonsense. Under the slogan "land to the peasants" the land was taken away from the peasants.
                    The protesters were also dispersed by the Bolsheviks with great zeal. (There is no difference, except for legality.) After that, they began to simply shoot those who disagreed. About the "answer to white" ... I asked you to read history, not propaganda.
                    Take a look at your leisure about the Provisional Government and the Constituent Assembly. This is the question of the legality of the Bolsheviks.
                    About the fact that "Today with a personal not very ..." Are you serious? What country do you live in? In the USSR, everything belonged to the party, now a slightly different system. Come out of your coma.
                    Seeing this masterpiece "preparing to go in orderly ranks to the global collective farm", the idea arose to find and post the old meme "Catch a drug addict", but I will refrain.
                    For you, the robbery of people called "collectivization" and globalization in the world economy are the same?
                    Depossession is not a "progressive tax", but simply the robbery of people who know how to work (nonsense about usurers (by the way, what have they done wrong?) Tell others).
                    Your understanding of the economy is somewhere at the baseboard level. Stories are in the same place. If you continue to respond with agitation, slogans and delirium, then you no longer intend to spend time on you.
                    1. -2
                      3 October 2019 01: 19
                      Well, enough already carry nonsense. Why was it necessary to finance the Bolsheviks? There were enough other parties. Imagine the picture. Lenin drives up to Deutsche Bank in ten trucks. They are loaded with money so that the springs bend. Then, strainingly buzzing, this column moves ... Where? Toward the front or the border? Well, drove up to the trenches. Both fronts freely passed this convoy into the territory of Russia. Having come to Russia, Lenin began to give out money! To whom? Lenin drove into Petrograd already in empty cars !?
                      And what is wrong with globalization? If the Soviets collectivized, this is a robbery. If the bourgeois collectivize, is that a sure thing !?
                      So a progressive tax is a banal robbery of people who know how to work !?
                      It is interesting to ask such questions to VO readers. What do they think on these issues?
                      1. -1
                        3 October 2019 17: 28
                        Learn history and economics, not manuals and propaganda. And stop already raving with trucks (this time even without KamAZ). Financial operations were beautifully carried out and are being carried out in wartime through banks, dummies and independent states (in one of which Lenin lived very well). Read the testimonies of contemporaries, and preferably foreign, and not Soviet historians-lyuboslyudov who wrote fairy tales for the party.
                      2. -2
                        3 October 2019 17: 33
                        Well, liberal writers certainly write the whole truth! Financial operations were carried out. But if you translate all that cash attributed to Lenin in kilograms? How much does a pack of banknotes weigh? Or gave out coppers? Who will bear this burden? Who will protect? Someone will steal. How many Lenin’s comrades plundered? What fortune did they make from this money?
                      3. -1
                        3 October 2019 17: 41
                        Are you raving again? I wrote about liberal hacks? I wrote about contemporaries. Bernstein, for example, the memoirs and letters of politicians of that time. Kilograms are some again, oversleep, or something.
                      4. 0
                        3 October 2019 17: 57
                        Judging by the size of the cores, there were tons of money there! And why did the Germans suddenly stop helping Lenin after the revolution? Why did white help, but not red? Is it strange? Where is the logic?
                      5. -2
                        3 October 2019 23: 32
                        Are you adequate?
                        The size of most of the "kerenoks" is about 5 * 5 cm. This time.
                        Money was mainly allocated in stamps. These are two.
                        White, mainly helped by the Allies of the Entente of RI. These are three.
                        Put your head in order and do not disgrace the country.
                      6. 0
                        4 October 2019 13: 47
                        The size of the cores. 20 and 40 rubles 61 to 50 mm. 250 rubles 175 by 105 mm. 1000 rub 214 by 132 mm. the size of 500 rubles in 1910 27.5 to 12.6 cm. The brand was worth 6 marks per dollar. and the ruble is 11 rubles per dollar. For the brand gave 0.46 rubles. The costs of the war from 1914 to 1917 amounted to. RI $ 10.4 billion. Germany 10.8 billion $. And where do you put these 5 million or even 50 million marks? Russia exported 17435 million rubles. and imports amounted to 13313 million rubles. Total debt 41.6 billion rubles. And then some miserable 2.5 million rubles allegedly given to overthrow the power in Russia! hi
                      7. -1
                        4 October 2019 16: 10
                        Good luck. Go crazy further.
  5. +10
    1 October 2019 07: 36
    The fact is that there are no real reasons for the growth of the economy in "Ukraine", and at the same time at least some increase in the well-being of the common people. People are forced to leave "Ukraine" to earn a living. Now about 10 million Ukrainians are abroad, there is already a shortage of labor resources, last year they brought and transferred to the territory of "Ukraine" about 11 billion dollars (more than 10% of GDP). Only due to this money there is at least some kind of economic stabilization and maintenance of the hryvnia exchange rate ... The economy is now frozen at about one place, although the authorities are screaming about economic growth, which, in reality, is not observed, a small increase in GDP occurred as a result of a jump gas prices (10 times compared to 2013) and other utilities. The GDP even included loans received, for which in 2019 "Ukraine" is obliged to pay more than 7 billion dollars. It is unclear whether there is such money in the budget or it will be paid out through new loans, for which there is now a fuss with the IMF, it is planned. " residual "privatization and adoption of a law on the free sale of agricultural land.
    "Ukraine" in comparison with 1991 has lost about half of the population, it was 52 million, now, probably, and 30 will not be typed, of which more than 11 million are pensioners, deliberately delay, do not conduct a population census, the results can be too bitterly stunning ...
    Many people think quite realistically and do not expect anything good from the authorities, there are also especially stubborn ones who have even a stake on their heads, but they keep repeating about the "way to Europe" and the future "free life", not wanting to listen to anything. These are the realities.
    1. +4
      1 October 2019 08: 11
      I totally agree.
      I have repeatedly written about my, countrymen, ... although instead of me and political scientists, psychologists should make the diagnosis. I can give many examples when people under 70 and for those who received all the benefits from the Soviet government hate Russia and vote, if not for Bandera, then for Gavrylyukov and Parasyukov.
      There is a large-scale dullness of population. As for the triumph of 73% for Zelts, many including the author are stupidly mistaken. If you take the number of people in the penal colony and the number of people who came to the polls, then about forty percent voted for Ze (see Medvedchuk’s speech on News Van).
      I emphasize once again, albeit indirectly, I am grateful that the Bandera-Nazis are in power of dill; in this situation, the collapse of the dill is inevitable.
      1. +3
        1 October 2019 08: 41
        instead of me and political scientists, psychologists should be diagnosed

        It’s right in the bullseye.
        They are terrible storytellers, and if anything is driven into their heads, then there is no room for doubt.
        The world outlook and mentality of the modern Ukrainian population over the years has changed a lot, life priorities have also changed, it has become more pragmatic and seeks to look in the direction where it is more profitable.

        Yes, they have always been like that.
        The population, as manna from heaven, is waiting for an improvement in living conditions and hopes for a "messiah" who will come and do everything right, and in Ukraine there will come almost an earthly paradise.

        Also nothing new, the most common thing for them to dream like that. "Duren dumkoy bagatie (riches in dreams) is about them.
      2. -2
        1 October 2019 09: 21
        Quote: scud
        watch Medvedchuk's performance on News Van

        he said what is beneficial to him
        given his status in Ukraine
        Quote: scud
        banderonazists are in power of dill - in this scenario, the collapse of the dill is inevitable

        strange former .. that Russians abroad are unflattering about their homeland, that Ukrainians
      3. 0
        1 October 2019 17: 40
        Quote: scud
        If we take the number of people in the Ukrainian colony and the number of people who came to the polls, then about forty percent voted for Ze as a percentage (see Medvedchuk’s speech on News Van)

        It all fits together. The main thing is "If only not a Moskal" and there is even a Filipino, even an Icelander.
      4. +1
        1 October 2019 21: 38
        Scud, dear, you are mine, my relatives and I have exactly the same situation. Bite Russia, Putin and all Russians. But ....... continue to travel to Russia, to earn money, and you can’t drive them out of here.
        And this article is stupid and naive. Waeren, that the author of this scribble is a citizen of the Outskirts. A lot of, smart words, and farmer pathos.
        Every year I visit the Outskirts, with my mother-in-law and communicate a lot with people. I'm listening. I remember. I analyze and my conclusion is as follows:
        1. Everything is much simpler than the elite; on the outskirts, there isn’t and wasn’t. Since the people themselves are historically artificially bred.
        2. Smart people have left the outskirts for the most part in Russia or other republics.
        3. The economy is collapsed not because there is no reform, but because it is already stolen. All that is inherited from the Union is plundered.
        4. The people to the black are greedy and envious. Eat-each other.
        And in conclusion .. I really do not want to return even part of the Outskirts to Russia. As Ukrainians, in the 91st year I can safely say, Stop feeding the stupid, thieving Ukrainian people. ,,
        Let them crawl out of those feces in which they climbed.
    2. +1
      1 October 2019 09: 35
      Quote: bistrov.
      and they keep repeating about the “way to Europe” and the future “free life”, not wanting to listen to anything.

      I look in the network for photos of 1941, what joyful, obsequious faces meet the "liberators" from civilized Europe.
    3. +3
      1 October 2019 11: 30
      The fact that many people leave Ukraine to earn money, so they themselves wanted it. Remember how they interviewed before the Maidan. What would you like? We want free travel to Europe, we want to work in Europe! That's it! Their dream came true. Now they roam the world like gypsies. Although, when leaving the USSR, they wanted independence. In one generation, a transformation of consciousness has occurred. From independent to free. Now they are free. What's next? In 40 years they will seek their homeland? Only who will give them the territory to create a New Ukraine? How is it in a fiction about Dulles' plan? Then a terrible tragedy will break out? No matter how they had to as Kurds, with American weapons try to recapture some territory. The Americans beat the cunning Ukrainians outright! Their fate is the fate of the Indians. Well, maybe the reservation will be a little different. But they will reduce their numbers themselves.
      1. +5
        1 October 2019 17: 34
        many leave Ukraine to earn money,

        And what do not leave Russia?
        Here is a reference only for scientists: "The number of highly qualified specialists who emigrated from Russia increased from 20 thousand in 2013 to 44 thousand in 2016. This was announced at the general meeting of the Russian Academy of Sciences by the chief scientific secretary of the Presidium of the Russian Academy of Sciences Nikolai Dolgushkin. in three years, the flow of brains out of the country has become twice as powerful.
        During the same time, the number of scientists in the European Union and the United States increased by 2-3%, and in Brazil, Korea and China - by 7-10%. "
        Well? Maybe enough about the Ukrainians? Maybe it's time to see what is going on in our house?
        1. +1
          1 October 2019 18: 05
          Really. There is reason to think. It is sad that they are leaving Russia. Although we do not have such a mood as there. We at least do not yell-Russia is Europe! They do not say in every interview that they want to go abroad. For all the similarities with Ukraine, there are differences. Or not? Is our country's leadership ruled by Jews? Do Americans help us and we love them dearly for this? Unlike the Ukrainians, we still have nuclear weapons. The army is reborn and even produce combat-ready weapons. Residents of our cities have a good standard of living.
        2. +3
          1 October 2019 18: 36
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          Maybe enough about the Ukrainians? Maybe it's time to see what is going on in our house?

          There is only one reason - disorder in our Russia. There will be order in Russia - and Ukraine will remember about the mind.
        3. 0
          5 October 2019 06: 18
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          The number of highly qualified specialists emigrated from Russia increased from 20 thousand in 2013 to 44 thousand in 2016.

          What is 44 thousand for a 146 million country? This is a minuscule, statistical error, you need to take into account the special psychology of individual people who always wander around the world in search of better conditions for work. It seems to them that where they are not, there are better conditions. Such a character was described by Ilf and Petrov in The Golden Calf.
    4. +1
      1 October 2019 12: 21
      Quote: bistrov.
      Now about 10 million Ukrainians are abroad,

      And this is the most able-bodied population, and vryatli it will return to work in their homeland.
  6. +4
    1 October 2019 08: 10
    Personally, I’m deeply impressed by what the growth of the economy is, and so on. For the last 5 years, Ukraine has been torn from Russia. Now, in essence, it is a hostile state and relations with it must be built accordingly. There are compromises, no concessions, kind of soft stiffness if you want. To drag Ukraine by the ears into the bosom of the Slavs at the moment is in vain work, while in their brains there is a Europe.
  7. 0
    1 October 2019 08: 12
    The victory in the elections and the strengthening of the power of the Zelensky team with an unusually high confidence rating for the course of the new president surprised many and raised many questions. Why did this happen and how to explain it?
    I didn’t live under the tsars and I don’t know how we lived in Ukraine under them, but I don’t think it’s bad. But the revolution came, "self-styled people got out, not the most respected people like Petliura and Skoropadsky, euphoria, joy! But they profited part of Western Ukraine. In Soviet times, we already remember how we lived there, but we didn't like it, we need independence. We got it! Again joy and euphoria. But it’s impossible to live “without a tsar in your head,” and this is where Kravchuks, Poroshenkos, Petliura started and went. In general, there was the Ukrainian SSR, there was “error 404.” “Revolution of dignity” (what nice words in a disagreeable case) and again hope, that the messiah will come in the form of Petliura or ??? U Came in the form of mamaZEL The answer is simple - we can live without a messiah, or without a sapo .. and?
  8. +6
    1 October 2019 08: 13
    Everything is written correctly. So, the Russian government has nothing to do with it? Have not seen anything since 1991? And what did Putin and Lavrov do to change something? Chernomyrdin was appointed ambassador! Let's be honest - everything that is done in Ukraine is done with the consent of the Russian authorities! Even now, if Putin only clicks a finger and 80% of the population are ready to join Russia, or they will make a coup. It is only necessary to identify the leader as the United States in Venezuela. But does Putin seem to be happy with everything?
    1. 0
      1 October 2019 09: 00
      Changing the consciousness of one person is difficult.
      Mass - a matter of desire, technology and the availability of forces and means

      So it happened in Ukraine. The media was hammering and hammering in the brain - and that's the result.
      And to help them, the daily trills of Soloveiko ... and the singing of Kulikov from Russia itself ((((By the way, about Kulikov with a smile ... "Dmitry Kulikov advised Viktor Yanukovych in 2004, when he lost to Yushchenko. Then Kulikov decided next time put on "orange" and began to advise Arseniy Yatsenyuk in the presidential elections in 2010. Yatsenyuk took 4th place with a result of 6,96%, there were no more people willing to buy Dmitry Kulikov's advice in Ukraine at a high price, so Dmitry Evgenievich began to look for applications for his talents in Russia , .... "" "
      1. +2
        1 October 2019 15: 28
        In fairness, it should be noted that Yushchenko then defeated Yanukovych far from immediately and with some difficulty (Westerners greatly strained themselves).

        And Yatsenyuk, perhaps, was not Kulikov's idol, so he did not particularly try to "advise" him. ))
    2. +3
      1 October 2019 09: 25
      Quote: steel maker
      Let's be honest - everything that is done in Ukraine is done with the consent of the Russian authorities!

      yes partners here and there. The communication channel is continuous. Putin's godfather has never drowned in all the years of "aggression" and other pumping. Business channels are active.
      The fact that by agreement, in terms of banknotes they have complete understanding.
      And the fact that they sell interests in wholesale and retail countries, I beg you, and there and there the "people" agree by 148%.
    3. +1
      1 October 2019 12: 26
      Quote: steel maker
      Even now, if Putin only clicks a finger and 80% of the population are ready to join Russia or they will make a coup

      Well nobody will do it. Very late, as they say, "It's too late to drink Borjomi."
    4. -5
      1 October 2019 15: 06
      And here Putin is to blame. And how does he manage to do everything?
      1. +4
        1 October 2019 17: 43
        What Maidan for Putin happened suddenly? What anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine appeared instantly? What intelligence did not report to him about the anticipated state of the Ukrainians?
        This conclusion is that it was under Putin that we received a hostile state at our side and Putin could not do a damn thing. That is all his foreign policy successes.
        1. -6
          1 October 2019 18: 49
          You are paranoid. The "hostile territory" inside the country was organized by the CPSU. At 90 you didn't live? Did you communicate with Ukrainians at that time, especially with young people? Under Putin, we finally stopped investing billions in their independence. Now only one "brother" on the neck remained.
  9. +4
    1 October 2019 09: 12
    Putin’s role in the emergence of not just a non-fraternal state at hand, but clearly hostile, is not covered. The spirit is not enough to call a spade a spade.
    1. +3
      1 October 2019 09: 38
      The role of Putin is not covered


      This national bourgeoisie, seizing the moment, tore off its cus. Not only Ukraine - all republics. And he will not give up voluntarily. The princes were driven into a stall with a sword and a whip, or even a rope at their own gates.
      Putin did not go further than Abkhazia, Ossetia and Crimea. Why - the question is for him, not the author. I don’t even know who Putin is, what his role is among our moneybags. I didn’t study with him, I didn’t live nearby, I didn’t work and did not serve
      Maybe he has a role "on the dancer", or maybe "godfather", one of the equals. I do not know.
  10. +7
    1 October 2019 09: 39
    Ukraine - in the name itself lies its fate to be the outskirts, i.e. frontier between two cultures - Western (based on Catholicism) and Euro-Asian (based on Orthodoxy). In different centuries, this border shifted to the west, then to the east. Historical "Ukraine" - "Little Russia" is a territory with a mild climate and fertile lands. "Novorossia" is not a historical territory of Ukrainian-Little Russian culture, it is a territory annexed thanks to the successful military campaigns of the Russian Empire, which managed to establish "order of state power" on this land instead of "walk the fields" - constant raids and robberies of the Tatar khans and their "hordes" ... The West - could not bring order to the lands of "Novorossiya", Orthodox Russia - could, having clearly indicated that neither Turks nor Tartars would "rule" on these lands. Thus, the real "Ukraine" - the western name, "Little Russia" - Euro-Asian or Russian, stretched from Chernigov region to Transcarpathia, and in the south was protected by the lands of the Zaporozhye Cossacks. Often Zaporozhye Cossacks are confused with Hetman Cossacks, the Cossacks are not Ukrainians and not Little Russians, they are their own subculture, multinational, but based on the laws of Orthodoxy. Hetman Cossacks are Ukrainians who serve the Polish hetmans to protect their lands on the eastern outskirts of the Commonwealth. Accordingly, the struggle for this territory was waged between the "West" and "Euro-Asia" not only through wars, but also by pulling the local population over to their side by economic and political "enticements". The population chose either one side or the other. And all the iconic Ukrainian chieftains like Khmelnitsky and Mazepa always rushed from side to side. The very life on such a suburb has created a mentality of local preferences: where it is profitable to join those. Today Ukrainians are Westernizers, but nothing is permanent - tomorrow everything can change.
    1. +4
      1 October 2019 11: 41
      In general, the mentality of a trader. Profitable to sell Russia, sold. Profitable to sell Europe, will sell. I’m only afraid that by the time Europe sells Ukraine to Ukraine, nothing will remain from Ukraine. Ridicule her more dexterous traders.
      1. 0
        1 October 2019 15: 34
        That's right .... Already in the tail and mane derbanat.
    2. -2
      1 October 2019 12: 40
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      Today, Ukrainians should be Westerners, but there is nothing permanent - tomorrow everything can change.

      Everything is true, brief, capacious and as it is. Although in my opinion everything has gone so far that there is no return. Previously, the pro-Westerners were the Hetman Cossack foreman and the Cossacks, this is a meager part, and the people did not even realize this. (I’m writing about Little Russia, but not about Ukraine (western). But after 1939 the year went on growing, and now the majority of the population, and not 2-3% as previously Western, so that return to the next 100 years not expected. Those who wanted to leave Ukraine, they left.
  11. +4
    1 October 2019 10: 10
    I wonder, where does the author and writer of these statues get the info? Has he traveled all over Ukraine? I don’t think so ...
    Most likely, he has seen enough of the "brainwashing" Russian media and in the complete absence of critical thinking (which the Ukrainians have enough, because they, in fact, do not blame Russia for all their problems), begins to compose some kind of heresy to maintain the fighting spirit of Putin's electorate ...
    PS Yes, yes, I am Ukrainian
    1. +2
      1 October 2019 17: 47
      I support you, I am Russian and I think that in vain everyone here on the site pounced on Ukrainians. Ukrainians are different and I think that among them are many pro-Russian-minded people. There are certainly Bandera, but there are others who hate Bandera.
      1. +1
        1 October 2019 19: 31
        You will be surprised, but most of all those who hate both Bandera and Russia. The only problem is that hatred of the dead is one thing, and towards a neighboring state is somewhat different.
  12. -1
    1 October 2019 12: 13
    There is no "elite" there (in the real sense of the concept), there is no "society" there (in the real sense of the concept). Soon enough, we'll see this herd grow increasingly hostile towards "Europe" and the US.
  13. +1
    1 October 2019 12: 39
    I no longer see Kolomoisky among the living ... Look for another puppeteer.
  14. -2
    1 October 2019 13: 55
    There is such a country - Moldova. So, everyone went through it there, but before. And the war was, and the oligarchs and the Soros and so on .... Finally, they got their Dictator, drug dealer and just a good man, Plakhish, became absolutely not interesting to anyone: neither the Russian Federation, nor the United States, nor the EU. Everyone stopped giving money, the population fled, and what was left was only thinking about who to sell to. With the territory called Ukraine, everything will happen the same, because the puppeteers are the same, the people are the same. We stock up on popcorn, beer and enjoy the "brotherly show".
    1. +1
      1 October 2019 15: 40
      Sad "show", it would be better not to watch it.
      But still, Ukraine is not Moldova in the geopolitical sense, it will not be left behind.
  15. +2
    1 October 2019 14: 48
    The state is doomed to degradation if the “elite” equips itself with “nests” abroad, and society condones it in this.
  16. -2
    1 October 2019 15: 21
    I got an opinion.
    1.year on 50-100 (yes like that) confidence in Ukrainians in any form of their organization is lost. I believe that they took the mesgo next to the Jews, that is, for 10 years they will not be discreetly imprisoned at key places in research institutes, and so on ... like with the Jews. They are corrupt, greedy, unscrupulous. Just don’t shout that among them there are honest ones, or I don’t argue, only there are so few of them as diamonds in manure and what do they equal in the affairs of our mournful?
    This shame will have to be washed away for a long time with remorse.
    2. There will be nothing left of the country of diggers of the Black Sea and the creators of the Karakaz mountains. Donbass and Lugansk and something else, having been repented, will be asked to come to us. But it will take at least 10 years, it’s quick for the story.
    3.All the riffraffers, even if you call them suckers or saloids, all run away when it becomes clear that there is nothing more to steal, and in the Russian Federation to shove with a drill, that the trousers will be torn off.

    4. A nagging and petition will begin - as it was more than once under Khmelnitsky and others, because migrants squeezed out of Europe from the Europe will climb into the clutter ...


    that's it.
  17. -1
    1 October 2019 17: 45
    Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
    The Americans beat the cunning Ukrainians outright! Their fate is the fate of the Indians.

    Anglo-Saxons do not lose on the world chessboard. The Sumerians can win when they play the giveaway.
  18. +3
    1 October 2019 19: 24
    It remains unclear who so duped the population? Authorities? And why so strangely fooled - so they lost the election.
  19. 0
    4 October 2019 15: 31
    So far, these ruling "elite" are more like a poorly managed herd of two-legged sheep.
  20. 0
    23 October 2019 12: 50
    These anti-Russian and anti-Ukrainian attacks are disgusting to me. Many try to present themselves as not ... mi patriots of their Motherland, while forgetting about the role of the authorities standing over them, and are ready to tear each other's forelocks. When relying on such would-be patriots, those in power form the situation both in the country and in external relations. By and large, these freaks are few, but they rocked the UNION in 91, Ukraine 2013-14. And God forbid the RF will still be shaken. Then I would have looked at YOU gentlemen RUSSIANS. At 91, they shouted to BORKA-ALKASH “OK” that YOU don’t sprinkle ashes on your head. They destroyed the UNION, and in fact the RUSSIAN EMPIRE. Indeed, "WHERE is Comrade STALIN?" PS USSR is my HOMELAND and my belief in life.
  21. 0
    23 October 2019 13: 17
    Trump's personal views, which apply both to Russia and to his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, are quite favorable, no longer matter of principle - the US president is dependent in his policy on the position of the American establishment, which is dominated by tough anti-Russian sentiments.
    In continuation of the previously stated on the role of power-owning circles. (The article lies on this site)

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