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USA allowed Ukraine to repair Mi family helicopters

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Ukrainian enterprises of the military-industrial complex can now repair Soviet and Russian Mi helicopters for foreign customers. Corresponding certificates were handed to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine by the United States.


USA allowed Ukraine to repair Mi family helicopters


According to Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andrii Zagorodniuk on his Facebook page, Donald Winter, US Strategic Advisor on the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, passed the certificates. Upon receipt of these documents from the United States, Ukraine received the right to repair all Mi helicopters for foreign customers.

Received United States certificates from Mr. Donald Winter, which will allow enterprises of the Ukrainian defense industry to repair Mi-type helicopters for foreign customers

- said Zagorodniuk.

Earlier it was reported that the Aviakon Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant, which provides overhaul and modernization of the Mi family of Ukrainian army helicopters, received a certificate of conformity of the quality system to the requirements of NATO AQAP 2016 standard in 2120. And even earlier, in 2013 year Aviakon and OJSC M. Mil MVZ signed an agreement on the design and technological support of the overhaul of civilian helicopters Mi-8, Mi-8AMT, Mi-8MTV, Mi-17 and their modifications.

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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 26 September 2019 18: 18
    +65
    Thief gave thief permission laughing
    Forest and those and those
    1. Kontrik
      Kontrik 26 September 2019 18: 30
      +11
      Corresponding certificates were handed to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine by the United States.

      An interesting alignment ... It is not for nothing that Trump demands from Zelensky compromising materials on Biden and other scumbags ..On the outskirts of the West he has a lot of money, and they get crumbs from the table of the owner of the Jewish Congress of the United States. hi
      PS And then African countries complain about the poor quality of "former Soviet military equipment"
      Not those who buy
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 26 September 2019 21: 22
        +3
        Quote: Kontrik
        Corresponding certificates were handed to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine by the United States.

        Quote: Stroibat stock
        Thief gave thief permission

        Mil helicopters have never been American!
        Well, it means Russia also needs to give permission to its campaigns for the maintenance and repair of American equipment, unless of course the specialists are in the subject, and it is only about the certificates!
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 26 September 2019 18: 36
      +13
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Thief gave thief permission laughing
      Forest and those and those

      That is why I hold my fists for revenge-seekers from Galicia and that no one cancels reforms in education from the era of Parubiya-Poroshenko and even Yushchenko. Bend your fingers:
      1. Ukrainian spelling in favor of Galicia - completed.
      2. The bias in education in the field of humanitarian disciplines and their encouragement to create conferences in the scientific and educational environment on the topics: Holodomor, Ukrainian-Russian wars in history. Cult of rural holidays of Galicia: malanka, etc. Cult of the history of Ukraine and literature. Assessment: in progress.
      Prospects: loss in the quality of exact sciences and disciplines, a drop in the culture of production, the fermentation of the Center and East of Ukraine.
      3. Transition to the Latin alphabet. Status: Standby. Prospects: a complete break with the Russian World, which means that Ukrainian culture and mentality will not be contagious for the border regions of the Russian Federation, Donbass. Who is not in the subject, read my articles in my profile on this site, how your relatives who were educated and born in the RSFSR sent you on Skype in three letters in the 2014 year, shouting that they are for Ukraine, and living in purely Russian-speaking cities of Ukraine.
      4. The rush of Russia itself in the modernization and production of MI-brand helicopters and in general military equipment that the role of Ukraine will begin to fall to zero.

      Ukraine is lost, it is a fact. Now she needs to be pushed away. Alas. So that there would be no more illusions and further losses, and expansion at the expense of Russia, Russian people and Russian lands.
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 26 September 2019 18: 55
        +15
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Ukraine is lost, it is a fact.

        Don't say gop until you jump.

        In the 13 year, you were sure that Crimea was lost forever.


        Now Crimea is Russian again.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 26 September 2019 19: 11
          +23
          Quote: Vladimir16
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          Ukraine is lost, it is a fact.

          Don't say gop until you jump.

          In the 13 year, you were sure that Crimea was lost forever.


          Now Crimea is Russian again.

          Crimea has always been Russian. And any citizen of Ukraine, coming there, felt the spirit of Russia there. For Russians in Russia, this was less noticeable.
          And in the autumn of the 2013 of the year, many Russian Russians wrote to me under my articles that I was a liar, and that the whole of Eastern Ukraine, from Kharkov to Odessa, was bombarded with Bandera caps. But it turned out like Russian-speaking battalions and regiments: Dnepr-1, Dnepr-2, Azov and others. Galicians scored a bolt in the ATO in the 2015 year. In short, I will not retell you 25 years of life in Ukraine and my 40 publications on the phenomenon of Russian-speaking Bandera. Do you want to believe in brotherly people, your personal choice.
          2004 and 2014, these are points of no return.
          The first for Central Ukraine. The second for the Greater Southeast of Ukraine.
          Western Ukraine has never been close to us, except perhaps 700 years ago. And it was not Ukraine)))
          1. novel66
            novel66 26 September 2019 20: 11
            +6
            damn it, cruel, brother, maybe everything is better !!!?
            1. Zhan
              Zhan 26 September 2019 20: 27
              +1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              damn it, cruel, brother, maybe everything is better !!!?

              I would like to hope so very much.
            2. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 27 September 2019 07: 16
              -1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              damn it, cruel, brother, maybe everything is better !!!?

              When you reflash your parents who studied and started to work not even in the Ukrainian SSR, you will see everything differently. Not in one former republic of the USSR they will not be able to boast of such assimilation within the framework of the 1 generation.
          2. Sandor Clegane
            Sandor Clegane 26 September 2019 21: 35
            0
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Crimea has always been Russian

            not Crimea, but Sevastopol !!! ...... in the era of Ukrainian rule
            1. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 27 September 2019 07: 13
              +3
              Quote: Sandor Clegane
              Quote: Nevsky_ZU
              Crimea has always been Russian

              not Crimea, but Sevastopol !!! ...... in the era of Ukrainian rule

              Kerch raised the Russian flag a day earlier over City Hall than Sevastopol. Like the rally held earlier. Just 150 thousandth city of Kerch remained in the shadow of 350 thousand of Sevastopol, where the Black Sea Fleet is based.
          3. Antares
            Antares 26 September 2019 22: 03
            -16
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Crimea has always been Russian. And any citizen of Ukraine, coming there, felt the spirit of Russia there. For Russians in Russia, this was less noticeable.

            was there three times, even took his wife out of there. I did not feel the spirit of the Russian Federation (namely the Russian Federation)
            about the symbolism of the Crimea, Russia has read a lot. Only from books about Sevastopol Strad and Stanyukovich - it would seem to me there should be no doubt that the Crimea is Russian. But no, being in Crimea I understood that he was not Ukraine, not Russia, that it was Crimea itself. It was unique in itself, and most of all it was Tatar (although there was no nicerta there).
            but most logical is the part of planet Earth, despite the status of a constant change of country.
            It belongs to the people who live there.
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            40 publications on the phenomenon of Russian-speaking Bandera.

            Until now, many Russians and "new Russians" did not get a taste of the fact that Ukrainians / Russian citizens of Ukraine are also capable of defending their, albeit bad and poor, state from another Russian state. Which has long abandoned them.
            And therefore, it is easier to call them Bandera than to understand the usual biological essence of a person protecting his habitat.
            And while the threat of neighbors to the habitat and territorial disputes (Krym Ordilo) has not subsided - it’s hard to find compromises between countries. (And between people everything is fine, if they are not in the trenches)
            Do you want to believe in brotherly people, your personal choice.
            2004 and 2014, these are points of no return.

            yes it is one and the same people. With its small climatic differences.
            By the way, the Polish and Lithuanian period in the history of Ukraine lasted not so little. And it’s very difficult (both for Poland and Ukraine itself)
            Do you need to declare Ukraine an enemy?
            Announce. You can collect the crusade. You are a former Ukrainian. Former always need to prove something ..
            it has always been in history.
            1. major147
              major147 26 September 2019 23: 11
              +13
              Quote: Antares
              And therefore it’s easier to call them Bandera,

              The Russians called Bandera - Bandera !! ??
              Quote: Antares
              Do you need to declare Ukraine an enemy?

              Who declared whom "enemy" !! ??
              Quote: Antares
              and most of all he was Tatar

              They are there 12% .....
            2. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 27 September 2019 06: 46
              +2
              Quote: Antares
              Announce. You can collect the crusade. You are a former Ukrainian. Former always need to prove something ..
              it has always been in history.

              You read me poorly and know. Your words read anger and resentment. This is normal.
              I am a former citizen of Ukraine, not a Ukrainian. This is the difference that an adequate and objective person sees. I have a classic Russian surname on s. My father is from Russia. Moscow sent him to serve and work in the GDR, where I was born, and then in the Ukrainian SSR. I do not need to prove that I am Russian. I have been writing about this here since the 2012 of the year, still under the old profile of Nevsky, and then I lived in Ukraine, and did not know that I would live in Russia.
              I do not call for a crusade to Ukraine. I urge in my articles and comments to recognize that Ukraine has taken place as a political nation precisely, and is hostile to Russian culture, which means that a policy must be pursued to push it away from Russia. For this, in Western Ukraine, your heirs of the state Heroes of Ukraine would even order them to me.
            3. Cottodraton
              Cottodraton 27 September 2019 07: 21
              +4
              And you have an eternal denial of everything and an eternal cult of "peremogi". Always someone deceived you, took, cheated, tortured and took away. At the same time, "your" was always at a minimum, since "your" was presented to you mainly by Lenin and Stalin, whom you hate.
              My father is from the Rivne region, so I know what I'm talking about. I heard a lot of his "tribal speeches" about a more "developed and spiritual Ukraine" on the basis of "huts", "Fences" and vegetable gardens in my childhood, and even then I was drawn from this Bandera nonsense. Father, fortunately, received his sight later. However, your eternal insults are ridiculously similar to what I once heard from my father. "Syndrome of an offended schoolchild living in his own little world" - this is your Ukrainian
            4. Nevsky_ZU
              Nevsky_ZU 27 September 2019 07: 26
              -1
              Until now, many Russians and "new Russians" did not get a taste of the fact that Ukrainians / Russian citizens of Ukraine are also capable of defending their, albeit bad and poor, state from another Russian state. Which has long abandoned them.
              And therefore, it is easier to call them Bandera than to understand the usual biological essence of a person protecting his habitat.

              As for the "new Russians", you have already answered.
              And this is your classic small-town patriotism. Which is peculiar even to Russia to Siberians, etc. With this, the collapse of the USSR began.
              You refused the Russian Federation at the end of 90's and the beginning of zero. They didn’t even want to go along the path of Belarus and create a common economic and customs space. As a result, even in matters such as citizenship and work in the Russian Federation, the residents of Belarus and Kazakhstan are in pluses. Proud of you, stubborn and passionate towards the West.
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 27 September 2019 10: 32
                0
                Many Ukrainians are waiting for this nonsense to end and we will again be friends with Russia. Not to mention the million Ukrainians who work in Russia. normal relations between our countries are a vital issue for them.
                1. Mic1969
                  Mic1969 27 September 2019 13: 13
                  0
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  Many Ukrainians are waiting for this nonsense to end and we will again be friends with Russia.

                  And again there will be "khazpopisat" to the Ukrainians, Russian buyers for the Ukrainian crap (crossed out) products to the detriment of the Russian, etc.
                  Quote: TermNachTER
                  Not to mention the million Ukrainians who work in Russia. normal relations between our countries are a vital issue for them.

                  And why for them the question of building a happy future on the territory of their country is not important? Maybe it's time to work at home already?
                  1. TermNachTer
                    TermNachTer 27 September 2019 17: 37
                    0
                    But you come here live, and then you will look at bad Putin in a completely different way.
                    1. Mic1969
                      Mic1969 27 September 2019 19: 57
                      0
                      Quote: TermNachTER
                      And you come here live,

                      Personally, I live well in my homeland, in Russia. And I look at Putin as I want.
                      But what really is so bad about life in Ukraine? I wonder who brought her to this? Can they again swear oaths to the helpable ukruins in the trousers of the trousers?
              2. Horon
                Horon 27 September 2019 13: 32
                0
                And this is your classic small-town patriotism.

                This is called separatism all over the world! It's just that we have long been replaced by concepts and the inhabitants of Ukraine, who advocate closer relations with Russia, are now called "separatists", and the real separatists (advocating distance from Russia) are called patriots of Ukraine, in fact, only a piece of the whole. But neither explain nor convince anyone else! Everything has long been turned upside down!
          4. Kronos
            Kronos 27 September 2019 00: 29
            -3
            Is it always 200 years old?
    3. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 27 September 2019 10: 30
      0
      Motor Sich has obtained the necessary certificates from Mile for a long time. The separate subdivision "Helicopters - Motor Sich" has been doing repairs of "Mi - 8", "Mi - 2" with changes to the glider for two or three years. New main gearboxes were made for "2", "8" and "24", you can install even today if the customer is willing to pay.
      1. Horon
        Horon 27 September 2019 14: 00
        0
        The problem is not whether they can or cannot do any work, but the problem is who gives this right! If the copyright holder gives it, then there is nothing to discuss, but with what side to the Russian copyright holder is the American permission? And if someone decided that he could afford it, then the Chinese are right to copy and produce everything that has a price and can reach it! It is possible, of course, that everything is upside down in the article, but from the article it turns out that the rights to produce something may not be asked from the copyright holder, the permission of the Americans is enough.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 27 September 2019 17: 35
          0
          As far as I know, permits were obtained somewhere else in 2011 - 12, and the TV - 3 - 117 engine is made under a Leningrad license.
          1. Horon
            Horon 28 September 2019 10: 33
            0
            Then how are the Americans here (in the article)? I suspect that the Americans agreed that the Ukrainian enterprise will carry out repair work on helicopters under the control of the United States, but they decided to make news out of this and arrange "with ra ch" in discussions! hi
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 28 September 2019 17: 31
              +1
              Maybe. On Friday they came to see the plant, "Progress", flew on simulators. Probably again repair of engines and gearboxes, on those Mis that fly in Afghanistan.
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 26 September 2019 18: 19
    -1
    For a long time the Americans did not substitute?
  3. sergo1914
    sergo1914 26 September 2019 18: 19
    0
    There are red stars on the sides. Oh, what will happen ...
    1. Antares
      Antares 26 September 2019 22: 07
      -7
      Quote: sergo1914
      There are red stars on the sides. Oh, what will happen ...

      article on Military Review. The authors inserted this particular picture.
      In the Ukrainian segment of MI 8 photo without distinguishable signs or


      US Strategic Advisor on the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, Donald Winter, handed over certificates to Ukrainian Defense Minister Andriy Zagorodnyuk, which will allow Ukrainian defense industry enterprises to repair Mi-type helicopters for foreign customers.
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 26 September 2019 22: 37
        0
        The Motor Sich is still under repair. Section 64.
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 26 September 2019 22: 39
          0
          Zaporizhzhya airport.
  4. Astronaut
    Astronaut 26 September 2019 18: 23
    +1
    And in the photo of the Mi-24 laughing
  5. Rostislav
    Rostislav 26 September 2019 18: 31
    +7
    And how did KB Mil comment on this?
    1. igor67
      igor67 26 September 2019 19: 19
      +6
      Quote: Rostislav
      And how did KB Mil comment on this?

      what should Miley’s KB comment on? I want to ask the people, where do you think the MI6-10 turntables and the MI 24 were repaired in the USSR? where did Syria, Libya Algeria repair their cars, etc.? I worked for 15 years at Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant, the former / h 21653
      1. not main
        not main 26 September 2019 21: 52
        +3
        Quote: igor67
        Quote: Rostislav
        And how did KB Mil comment on this?

        what should Miley’s KB comment on? I want to ask the people, where do you think the MI6-10 turntables and the MI 24 were repaired in the USSR? where did Syria, Libya Algeria repair their cars, etc.? I worked for 15 years at Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant, the former / h 21653

        Just for a start - "Gorelovo" Len.obl.
        1. igor67
          igor67 27 September 2019 00: 06
          +1
          [quote = non-primary] [quote = igor67] [quote = Rostislav] And how did KB Mil comment on this? [/ quote]
          what should Miley’s KB comment on? I want to ask the people, where do you think the MI6-10 turntables and the MI 24 were repaired in the USSR? where did Syria, Libya Algeria repair their cars, etc.? I worked for 15 years at Konotop Aircraft Repair Plant, the former / h 21653 [/ quote]
          Just for a start - "Gorelovo" Leningrad Oblast [/ how many cars a month? In Konotop, they developed the mi24 repair technology, together with the Mil design bureau, as well as the Rostov plant, about 30 cars a month came for repair,
      2. ya.dmytriy
        ya.dmytriy 26 September 2019 22: 05
        +1
        Rem base VVVAUSH
      3. Rostislav
        Rostislav 27 September 2019 12: 47
        +1
        What to comment?
        That ukram allowed to repair the equipment was not the manufacturer itself, but some kind of organism from the Pentagon.
        Not only that, they are trying to spread their laws on the whole ball, but also climbed into the technique.
        1. igor67
          igor67 27 September 2019 14: 16
          0
          Quote: Rostislav
          What to comment?
          That ukram allowed to repair the equipment was not the manufacturer itself, but some kind of organism from the Pentagon.
          Not only that, they are trying to spread their laws on the whole ball, but also climbed into the technique.

          Back in the 90s, AVIAKON received permission to repair turntables, I don’t remember how exactly like ISO9000, and then from MILES, from which side of the USA?
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  7. totoro21
    totoro21 26 September 2019 18: 37
    +3
    What does the United States have to do with it, and what has changed compared to when there were no certificates? Those who wanted - before in Ukraine could be served.
  8. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 26 September 2019 18: 38
    +6
    Permission to repair outlets 220 volts in line.
    Ps They have 110 volts
  9. Sergei 777
    Sergei 777 26 September 2019 18: 43
    +8
    Apparently the United States will also issue spare parts?
  10. Proton
    Proton 26 September 2019 18: 43
    +8
    We need to allow which thread Nicaragua to repair tanks abrams wassat
    1. Naughty
      Naughty 26 September 2019 18: 48
      +2
      Under the next sanctions immediately hit laughing
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 26 September 2019 20: 57
        +1
        Quote: Vzdrincher
        Under the next sanctions immediately hit laughing

        These sanctions somehow touched you. Or did you fly to the United States every week for potatoes in their supermarkets? laughing
    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 26 September 2019 19: 12
      +1
      Nicaragua, at best, has a T-55. feel
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  13. faterdom
    faterdom 26 September 2019 18: 53
    +17
    It's time to allow Crimea to sell Windows and MS-Office. Without all sorts of stupid things there. And also Photoshop.
    1. Felix
      Felix 26 September 2019 19: 01
      +3
      Quote: faterdom
      It's time to allow Crimea to sell Windows and MS-Office. Without all sorts of stupid things there. And also Photoshop.

      As I believe, Photoshop has been designed for a long time, since the construction of the energy bridge, and then the Crimean bridge.
    2. Rinat Vakilov
      Rinat Vakilov 26 September 2019 20: 54
      +8
      We in Sevastopol have long been using "windows" and all sorts of Word without a license ...
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 27 September 2019 07: 33
        0
        I'm in Moscow too :)
  14. PPD
    PPD 26 September 2019 18: 58
    -1
    Alas! But Lavrov will once again express deep concern!
    The chosen one will simply keep silent, and the deputy will blather something about reliable partners. ALAS!
    1. major147
      major147 26 September 2019 23: 14
      0
      Quote: PPD
      The chosen one is just silent

      Yes, wrong! Declare war on everyone! angry
      1. PPD
        PPD 27 September 2019 11: 48
        -2
        Well, yes, in your opinion, it is better to allow your feet to wipe, "so that there is no war.
        1. major147
          major147 27 September 2019 19: 20
          +1
          Quote: PPD
          Well, yes, in your opinion, it is better to allow your feet to wipe, "so that there is no war.

          Your suggestion?
          1. PPD
            PPD 27 September 2019 21: 39
            -2
            Ohhhhhhhh! And I was hoping from you that constructive to hear!
            Well, harness the memory there.
            Remember the times, well, there are 20-30 years ago.
            It’s not that you, I hope, were born already, and maybe even went to school.
            Well, the truth is that you can answer such a stupid question.
            A lot of course what.
            You can recall the diplomats of the old school, who did not have the features of a flexible spine!
            Yes, you can see the same America, how it protects its citizens!
            Well, if memory does not work already and you don’t remember how you defended your position in the USSR and how the State is now abandoning its citizens ??? !!! fool If this is considered normal for you, well, I don’t know how to help you. Not a doctor. Alas.
            1. PPD
              PPD 27 September 2019 22: 21
              0
              Here is a person's feelings about life not quite in Moscow: "
              Recently I was resting with friends in the village on Kirov. I have the impression that the war is still going on with us. The war with the population: the village, real, EVERYTHING is falling apart, it's scary to die in such a place not only to live! There are mainly old people, disabled people and a small working population with children. There is no work, no medical center for many years, the nearest town is 20 km away, there is a bus 3 times a week. AND EVERYTHING! SCARY!!! And the Falensky district, Oktyabrsky settlement, Kirov region. And I understand that the war is not over here! The authorities are still at war with us, and they come up with new ways to destroy US! "
              I address you with your own words: "Your proposal?"
              It’s FSE that probably came up with Trump.
            2. major147
              major147 27 September 2019 22: 35
              0
              Quote: PPD
              I don’t know how to help you. Not a doctor. Alas.

              For that in verbiage you are a big special. Old soviet school?
              1. PPD
                PPD 28 September 2019 17: 56
                0
                You should understand that in the proposal to pretend to be a fool, sooner or later the word pretend to disappear,
                Do you want it or not!
                The more you allow to wipe your feet with the goal: "If only there was no war"
                You just bring it closer.
                Read the latest news headlines-
                1 Ukraine decided to take part of the territories from Russia
                2 Trump announced sanctions - not Russia is a cool country, of course, he said Fedya.
                3 The shelling of Donbas, do not discuss at all-The cunning plan in action, until all the inhabitants are killed, probably ....
                4 A citizen of Russia was arrested, probably right, I did not specify, but according to preliminary information, this scoundrel had the audacity to make a good aircraft engine for Russia, well, how not to arrest this ... Correctly, in the opinion of "major147", the main thing if only there was no war.
                Interesting reaction
                1 Sam-silence-probably 10 puck scores close
                2 Medvedev is busy - develops 4 days at 12 days working week at 40 days
                month.
                Lavrov — and he is busy — expresses concern. Therefore, in the near future you will not hear him.
                4 Zakharova, but they haven’t written
                5 Zhirinovsky- First, all the villains, and secondly, he was not paid ....
                And only one Bulk FSE is lying. I really didn’t read it, I know for sure ....
                These headings can be continued.
                Everyone was excited about retirement. Have you read Law 166? Definitely not!
                Well, read when a social pension begins ......... Everything else should be brought closer to this position, nefig do.
                By the way, I can read the news. Yes, the Soviet school!
                And I see no reason to be shy about it!
                1. major147
                  major147 28 September 2019 20: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: PPD
                  You should understand that in the proposal to pretend to be a fool, sooner or later the word pretend to disappear,

                  Here, of course, you know better, you can not argue with experience. And for the future, do not say what I should understand, and I accordingly will not tell you where to go with your instructions!
                  Quote: PPD
                  1 Ukraine decided to take part of the territories from Russia

                  So what is next....? Relatively speaking, I "decided" to take the English throne. So what?
                  2 Trump announced sanctions - not Russia is a cool country, of course, he said Fedya.

                  Will be announced in return.
                  3 The shelling of Donbas, do not discuss at all-The cunning plan in action, until all the inhabitants are killed, probably ....

                  Receive the answer.
                  4 A citizen of Russia was arrested, probably right, I did not specify, but according to preliminary information, this scoundrel had the audacity to make a good aircraft engine for Russia, well, how not to arrest this ... Correctly, in the opinion of "major147", the main thing if only there was no war.

                  You were told that you can’t stick your fingers in the socket? And judging by the fact that you are in correspondence with me, you do not?
                  How much has been said about the need to fear similar actions by the United States in relation to similar persons? And he still "fingers in the socket."
                  Quote: PPD
                  Interesting reaction
                  1 Sam-silence-probably 10 puck scores close
                  2 Medvedev is busy - develops 4 days at 12 days working week at 40 days
                  month.
                  Lavrov — and he is busy — expresses concern. Therefore, in the near future you will not hear him.
                  4 Zakharova, but they haven’t written
                  5 Zhirinovsky- First, all the villains, and secondly, he was not paid ....

                  You excuse them for not reporting to you personally! Probably wound up ...
                  By the way, I can read the news.

                  Yah!!!!!?????
  15. KCA
    KCA 26 September 2019 18: 59
    0
    Helicopter building at / on top, they even revived MI-2, did one, I wouldn’t trust them with the modernization and repair of helicopters
    1. major147
      major147 26 September 2019 23: 16
      0
      Quote: KCA
      Helicopter building at / on top, they even revived MI-2, did one, I wouldn’t trust them with the modernization and repair of helicopters

      To whom did they "repair" aircraft there? Do Bulgarians think?
  16. Eug
    Eug 26 September 2019 19: 02
    +6
    One of the goodies for refusing to sell Motor Sich to the Chinese?
  17. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 26 September 2019 19: 02
    +6
    USA allowed Ukraine to repair Mi family helicopters

    Generous, just such a bonus, from the gentleman's shoulder.
  18. Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 September 2019 19: 04
    +12
    I give permission to any country in the world, and to any private person to repair F22 and F35 aircraft at home feel
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 26 September 2019 21: 33
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      I give permission to any country in the world, and to any private person to repair F22 and F35 aircraft at home feel

      Thank you brother for the idea, share? I’ll also allow f16 to be repaired, but at least B29, yes drinks
  19. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 26 September 2019 19: 11
    +2
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Ukraine is lost, it is a fact. Now she needs to be pushed away. Alas. So that there would be no more illusions and further losses, and expansion at the expense of Russia, Russian people and Russian lands.

    Fucking you analyst. Not knowing HISTORY makes anyone stupid. Thousands of years of development of Russia, Russia, the Russian Empire suggests that everything happened in it (history). Years of strife, leading to splits, feuds, invasions and disasters ended with the pacification, suppression and destruction of the enemy. Ukrainians have not yet survived the bottom of misfortunes. But egg-headed pianists lead them to this.
    1. major147
      major147 26 September 2019 23: 19
      +1
      Quote: Vkd dvk
      in it (history) everything happened.

      Recall at least the post-revolutionary strife!
  20. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 26 September 2019 19: 13
    +6
    I don’t understand something, isn’t a manufacturer supposed to issue such a certificate? I can’t issue a certificate for repairing a helicopter, I don’t have such a right, but where does the USA come from ???
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 26 September 2019 20: 25
      +5
      Herman4223 hi issue permits for the repair of American warships to all comers, take this right to yourself, because you so want. .. laughing do not deny yourself nothing. good
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 27 September 2019 09: 47
        0
        Previously, it didn’t even occur to me, but what can I fix my family budget laughing
    2. Antares
      Antares 26 September 2019 22: 14
      -1
      United States certificates, which will allow enterprises of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex to repair Mi-type helicopters for foreign customers.
      Yes, they have repaired before. There is simply "approval" of the United States for such actions by NATO countries.
  21. Berkut24
    Berkut24 26 September 2019 19: 22
    +7
    Somewhere there was statistics that after the Ukrainian repair, every third helicopter was written off or crashed in one way or another. Nobody will give a guarantee for them, especially since there have been no official deliveries of spare parts to Ukraine for a long time. Removed from some hopelessness and put on others.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 26 September 2019 21: 00
      +1
      Quote: Berkut24
      Somewhere there was statistics that after the Ukrainian repair, every third helicopter was written off or crashed in one way or another.

      Are the Yankees worried about someone else’s grief?
      1. major147
        major147 26 September 2019 23: 20
        0
        Quote: Piramidon
        Are the Yankees worried about someone else’s grief?

        Yes, and the money has already been received! feel
  22. Aliken
    Aliken 26 September 2019 19: 24
    +2
    And there is no zeal here? Where are the radicals with tires. Helicopters of the "enemy".
  23. BAI
    BAI 26 September 2019 19: 29
    +6
    Probably not the first I ask - what does the United States have to do with Soviet helicopters?
    1. Zhan
      Zhan 26 September 2019 20: 37
      +1
      Quote: BAI
      Probably not the first I ask - what does the United States have to do with Soviet helicopters?

      I myself am at a loss .... hi
  24. K-50
    K-50 26 September 2019 19: 42
    +4
    USA allowed Ukraine to repair Mi family helicopters

    What kind of kind !! fellow laughing
    To repair aircraft of An Russia down, they say there is intellectual property and so on. Although it is still necessary to clarify who has more rights to the An brand, the more so since the Russian aircraft plants have a full production cycle. What absolutely cannot be said about the helicopter repair shops of Ur Cain.
    I just want to wish the hostages fly more often on such refurbished ones. yes fellow laughing
    1. major147
      major147 26 September 2019 23: 24
      0
      Quote: K-50
      I just want to wish the hostages fly more often on such refurbished ones.

      When they fall, there will be a lot of screams in the West about "nasty" Russian equipment that does not need to be bought. But they will modestly keep silent about the "golden hands" of the Okrainsk "masters"!
  25. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 26 September 2019 20: 14
    +1
    The question is whether the number of incoming helicopters for repair will correspond to the number of repaired, because there have already been precedents, Indians and Croats have missed the equipment received for repair.
  26. Zhan
    Zhan 26 September 2019 20: 35
    +1
    And even earlier, in 2013, Aviakon and the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant signed an agreement on design and technological support for the overhaul of the Mi-8, Mi-8AMT, Mi-8MTV, Mi-17 civilian helicopters and their modifications.

    Over where the dog rummaged. Interestingly, the contract is still alive? For how many years did they conclude that and on what conditions?
    And in general, on what grounds do mattresses issue certificates for the repair of our equipment? Kontriki, can you say something intelligible? request hi
  27. Shuttle
    Shuttle 26 September 2019 21: 13
    +1
    It is necessary to give the Hussites a similar piece of paper for the repair of the Abrams.
  28. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 26 September 2019 22: 13
    +1
    With the same success, Russia can issue Belarus a repair certificate for F-15/16/18))).

    Only from this repair even if it suddenly does not happen to be of high quality.

    The United States issued Ukraine "Filkin's Certificate", and the Bandera authorities are jumping with happiness. But in reality, Ukraine has not been producing airplanes for several years, and against the background of competition from Russia, the manufacturer of helicopters of the Mi family, they have no chance of repairing them.

    I would also dumped in place of Russia in order to completely kill Ukraine’s ability to repair something made in Russia. Although they can do it themselves.

    Of course, the United States will force Afghanistan or Bulgaria, or someone else to repair Mi helicopters in Ukraine, it will only end with armored personnel carriers for Iraq, MiGami-21 for Croatia, in general, it’s sad.
  29. Lexus
    Lexus 26 September 2019 22: 19
    +2
    And even earlier, in 2013, Aviakon and the Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant signed an agreement on design and technological support for the overhaul of the Mi-8, Mi-8AMT, Mi-8MTV, Mi-17 civilian helicopters and their modifications.

    Themselves "reptile" and warmed. The contract must be terminated under any pretext, because when the "handicrafts" begin to fall, this will not affect the original manufacturer in the best way. In the fight against counterfeiting, all measures are justified.
  30. 2Albert
    2Albert 26 September 2019 22: 21
    +1
    Dill is repaired without this permission, so that the main gear on the bears falls apart. Unbalanced blades are being used and somewhere they are scooping the blades for the TBG TV3-113. I think that by 2023 they will destroy the entire Mi-8/24 fleet with such a repair and clear it for deliveries from the Russian Federation Mi-17/35
  31. New Year day
    New Year day 26 September 2019 22: 28
    +3
    Quote: Vladimir16
    Now Crimea is Russian again.

    he was always Russian. In 2006, the Feodosians did not allow the unloading of military equipment and the gathering of NATO soldiers on the Crimean land. In the meantime, they swept aside two NATO members who had infiltrated the city. After that, "Sea Breeze" was held in Donuzlav, in the steppe
  32. Umalta
    Umalta 26 September 2019 22: 44
    0
    I think that soon the United States will allow them to shit past the toilet and orders will be in order to neigh laughing
  33. Naughty
    Naughty 26 September 2019 23: 06
    0
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Vzdrincher
    Under the next sanctions immediately hit laughing

    These sanctions somehow touched you. Or did you fly to the United States every week for potatoes in their supermarkets? laughing


    The State Department cut my salary due to sanctions laughing In Mongolia, potatoes are forced to buy there cheaper lol
  34. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 27 September 2019 01: 31
    0
    Quote: Herman 4223
    I don’t understand something, isn’t a manufacturer supposed to issue such a certificate? I can’t issue a certificate for repairing a helicopter, I don’t have such a right, but where does the USA come from ???

    A vivid example of desecration of relations. They are "allowed" to repair, they themselves, at the same time, do not use these pieces of iron, do not take risks, but "become a friend" and "defender" of the interests of their slave. In any case, the blame, of course, will lie with the Ukrainians. A Belarusian, Pole, Croat, or any other sinner will be soft-boiled.
  35. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 27 September 2019 01: 33
    0
    Quote: Vzdrincher
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Vzdrincher
    Under the next sanctions immediately hit laughing

    These sanctions somehow touched you. Or did you fly to the United States every week for potatoes in their supermarkets? laughing


    The State Department cut my salary due to sanctions laughing In Mongolia, potatoes are forced to buy there cheaper lol

    So, get out of the State Department, since they cut the salary. You can even throw a grenade. With a note.
  36. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 27 September 2019 01: 39
    0
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    With the same success, Russia can issue Belarus a repair certificate for F-15/16/18))).

    Only from this repair even if it suddenly does not happen to be of high quality.

    The United States issued Ukraine "Filkin's Certificate", and the Bandera authorities are jumping with happiness. But in reality, Ukraine has not been producing airplanes for several years, and against the background of competition from Russia, the manufacturer of helicopters of the Mi family, they have no chance of repairing them.

    I would also dumped in place of Russia in order to completely kill Ukraine’s ability to repair something made in Russia. Although they can do it themselves.

    Of course, the United States will force Afghanistan or Bulgaria, or someone else to repair Mi helicopters in Ukraine, it will only end with armored personnel carriers for Iraq, MiGami-21 for Croatia, in general, it’s sad.

    Dumping is not necessary. This is a matter of jurisdiction. It can be done much faster, without monetary loss, and in one minute of time. Just withdraw your certificate for aircraft maintenance. What they will do there piratically will be answered in court from the heirs of the victims.
    Such boards, no dispatcher has the right to carry over their territory. For, because it answers ......
  37. Hokunin
    Hokunin 27 September 2019 04: 55
    +1
    Now let Russia issue Vietnam permission to repair Osprey and Huey
  38. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 27 September 2019 05: 55
    0
    full kaput .a ammersa what side involved in the repair of Soviet helicopters? Dill! To such a drop it still must be able to
  39. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 September 2019 06: 57
    0
    I didn’t understand anything, and why is our government and Mil's company silent? Since when did striped give permission to repair our helicopters? What the hell is going on, are we a country or where?
  40. sgr291158
    sgr291158 27 September 2019 07: 11
    0
    Useless people, useless country. Without permission, a pin ... owls do not even have the right to sneeze.
  41. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 27 September 2019 07: 30
    0
    Barin ruined! Walk, lads !!!
  42. Victoria-V
    Victoria-V 27 September 2019 08: 51
    0
    Nonsense turns out: at Dubai Airshow2019 there will be Ukrainian (I was not mistaken) Mi-8MSB. And he has a European certificate, unlike the Russian Mi-8. JSC Russian Helicopters sponsors Pugacheva’s concerts and conducts reductions. It would be nice to shoot a dozen or two there.
  43. rehev931
    rehev931 27 September 2019 09: 24
    +1
    And since when have mattresses issued certificates for the repair and maintenance of not even Russian but Soviet equipment. If I’m not mistaken, only the developer can issue them. And how much ora was on the part of the seafarers when we decided to serve Ruslana at our place. They do not drive their remaining IL-76s to us. And I think the mirror response to our issuance of certificates for the repair and maintenance of American equipment is quite robust
  44. Evil 55
    Evil 55 27 September 2019 14: 59
    0
    Cool ... Why not immediately on "Fu-35" and helicopters of the Sikorsky family ..
  45. Dedok
    Dedok 27 September 2019 16: 46
    0
    It's written: "...Mil Moscow Helicopter Plant OJSC signed an agreement for design and technological support of overhaul of civil helicopters Mi-8, Mi-8AMT, Mi-8MTV, Mi-17 and their modifications..."
    So "mattresses" gave the go-ahead (certified) - for repairs - for the needs of Western Europe and others ... many consumers are waiting for permission from "mattresses" so as not to "fall" under any sanctions.
    Nowhere is it written that "Mil" refused to be accompanied, and "mattresses" fit in instead of "Mil".
  46. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 27 September 2019 17: 00
    -2
    But is the United States the owner of the Mile OKB brent ?! No ! In this case, the United States is just a brazen thief, the same as Ukraine!
  47. Monar
    Monar 28 September 2019 07: 27
    0
    Interesting. Well, let's say country X wants to take the same Mi-8. Ukraine will do. So what? Is it not possible for him to take off without US permission?