Lavrov commented on Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base

The refusal of Belarus to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is, of course, an unpleasant episode, but we must understand that Minsk is Moscow’s ally by all 100%. About this in an interview "Kommersant" said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

According to the head of the foreign ministry, Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode. In fact, Belarus is 100% Russia's ally, including militarily. Despite the fact that Moscow does not share some of the foreign policy views of Minsk, basically the countries are taking joint steps in foreign policy and they have a program of joint action.

This is a really unpleasant episode. But the main thing is not form, but content. And according to the content, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly said, including when answering the question about the base, that Belarus is one hundred percent Russia’s ally and that the Belarusian armed forces should be considered as protecting our common interests and our common territory

- explained Lavrov.

Commenting on Belarus’s non-recognition of the sovereignty of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as well as the annexation of Crimea to Russia, Lavrov explained that Russia would not force anyone into anything. and it won’t act like the United States when it provided the quantitative composition for recognizing Kosovo’s independence.

I know how the quantitative composition of those who recognized the independence of Kosovo was ensured, and we will never behave this way with our neighbors, partners and allies

- he stressed.

Earlier, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko noted that the military base of the Russian Armed Forces in the country "is not needed either by Belarus or Russia itself." According to him, this topic is "artificially inflated by the media - primarily Russian." Lukashenko also noted that Belarus does not need Russian military pilots, since there are “ours”, but Russian aircraft are needed in Belarus.

Comments

[Svarog]

In fact, Belarus is 100% ally of Russia,

There are a lot of unpleasant episodes .. there is still no single currency, our base is generally obliged to be there when the US places a tank battalion on the border with Belarus .. The Union State is skidding.

[Tiksi-3]

But the main thing is not form, but content. And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly

говорил

talking and signing papers - different things ..... passed .... beckon him in the west and will run to meet them

[Thrall]

Most importantly, the Old Man is supported by 90 +% of the population of Belarus.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Thrall

Most importantly, the Old Man is supported by 90 +% of the population of Belarus.

Not, not right, but it will be right - 120 +% (ask Ermoshina).

[Lbt21]

Well, they are far from us. In us, the father of the nation is supported by 146% !!!!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Lbt21

In us, the father of the nation is supported by 146% !!!!

SHO Sho ?? In you ... Ah, so there is pan Vovan Zelansky ... at Kuyvi ... Ah, you are from Kryzhopol, who is from Berdychiv !!!

[Chaldon48]

Support in what, to be careful about Russia?

[Proxima]

Quote: Chaldon48

Support in what, to be careful about Russia?

Belarus does not want to lose part of its sovereignty, and many emotional politicians associate the deployment of the contingent of the armed forces of another state with this. It is believed that Japan is still occupied by the United States due to the presence of military bases on its territory. So dad is afraid, wants to keep the opportunity for political maneuver. It is in his style!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Proxima

So dad is afraid, wants to keep the opportunity for political maneuver. It is in his style!

We will not blame him for this. 2 chairs are better than one (until they scatter). Joke on this subject:
A new teacher came from the city to the village school under the literacy program. First of all, she gathered all the students, brought them out into the yard and said:
-Children! I authoritatively declare that there is no god! Therefore, you can safely twist the muzzle into the sky. And you will not be anything for it.
All the children in joy, like crazy, began to twist blows into the sky, show tongues, etc. indecent gestures. And then the teacher notices a detached neatly dressed boy who does not take part in the general fun. She asks him:
- Boy, what's your name?
-Yasha.
-Yasha, why don’t you blew the sky together with everyone?
-Well, if there is no one there, then who should turn the bullets? And if there is still someone there, then why spoil the relationship?

[Victor N]

The elite needs sovereignty - this gives it the opportunity to appropriate power rents. And the people only lose.

[To be or not to be]

The name "BATKA" alone says a lot.
...No comments ...

[vvvjak]

Quote: To be or not to be

The name "BATKA" alone says a lot.

"Than with such a Old Man, so much the better an orphan" is a Belarusian proverb.

[Thrall]

Quote: vvvjak

"Than with such a Old Man, so much the better an orphan" is a Belarusian proverb.

There is no such saying. But this phrase sounded on the resource "Belarusian Partisan" by Pavel Sheremet, funded by the US State Department, which did not take root either in Belarus or Russia, and did not literally survive in Ukraine.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Thrall

There is no such saying.

There is. This phrase was circulating among the people long before it appeared on the "Belarusian partisan". And the resource itself (like "Charter97") has long been not authoritative, a slag like the Russian "Novaya Gazeta"

[vvvjak]

Quote: Atilla

Why do Belarusians need a Russian military base?

She certainly will not hurt the people. But personally AHL (especially after the Crimea), it will pose a direct threat to the loss of unlimited power in the republic. Well this is my personal opinion.

[TARSUS]

What are the real advantages of locating a growing base in Belarus? Only without fairy tales about a clear sky above our heads, is everything okay with us?

[vvvjak]

Quote: TARS

Only without fairy tales about a clear sky above our heads, is everything okay with us?

Who do you have. After serving my military service in the Republic of Belarus, I am deeply skeptical of the combat readiness of the army of the Republic of Belarus, which has always been funded according to the residual principle (what remains after the Ministry of Internal Affairs). You can certainly argue that this was a long time ago (97 years). But this summer I was talking with a distant nephew who had only served. He was on duty on the radar, so he says that they constantly requested the radar data of the civil airport, because their radars are newer and better able to see the air.

[TARSUS]

I'm not talking about combat capability if that. The Republic of Belarus is not in control with anyone and, in principle, no one is going to fight with us.

[vvvjak]

Quote: TARS

I'm not talking about combat capability if that. The Republic of Belarus is not in control with anyone and, in principle, no one is going to fight with us.

World examples of sudden violent "democratization" are not enough for you; one test tube is enough.

[TARSUS]

And will there be more examples? Or can you just remember the test tube?

[vvvjak]

Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Tunisia, Egypt, etc. Google it yourself for general development. And there is no need to arrange "trolling" here, I am not a boy for you to conduct a dialogue in a similar manner.

[TARSUS]

But for some reason, they just remembered the test tube, maybe because there is nothing more?

[TARSUS]

And now please be so kind as to describe in detail how, in the countries you have listed, America had a hand in hand. And you don’t need to send me google, this is your statement and you are going to be crucified, and not for me to look for the answer to your stories.

[vvvjak]

Quote: TARS

And now please be so kind as to describe in detail

I won’t. I'm not so kind

Quote: TARS

as in the countries you have listed, America had a hand.

I have never mentioned America

Quote: TARS

you here

And who are you so that I would be crucified before you?

Quote: TARS

not me to look for the answer to your stories.

I am not forcing you to read my "stories" and even more so to "comment" on them or look for answers. As I understand it, there is essentially nothing to say to you, therefore I am not interested in supporting your "trolling".

[TARSUS]

Your drain is counted. Adies.

[Revival]

Well, if the parties read your skirmish, then, frankly speaking, it’s more likely to drain from you, they listed the countries that bombed the United States, and you ask “how did America put its hand there?”.
Where is the question?

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: TARS

And now please be so kind as to describe in detail how, in the countries you have listed, America had a hand in hand.

troll too thick

[meGrail]

It turned out very thoughtfully about Ukraine, they themselves answered your question, so that it doesn't work out in Ukraine and doesn't need a base, otherwise "polite people" will start crawling out of there ...

[anykin]

Quote: TARS

Or can you just remember the test tube?

Brest fortress fake?

[Vol4ara]

Quote: TARS

What are the real advantages of locating a growing base in Belarus? Only without fairy tales about a clear sky above our heads, is everything okay with us?

Maydanutyh heads will have less arrogance when Old Man leaves. In the event of hostilities from the west, there is less chance that they will reach Minsk in a few days.

[TARSUS]

Again, tales of the treacherous west, how does he want to enslave the blue-eyed? Change the training manual already, already already got enough.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: TARS

Again, tales of the treacherous west, how does he want to enslave the blue-eyed? Change the training manual already, already already got enough.

Well then tell us the truth about how he does not want :)

[Ros 56]

You have an order with this while Russia is near, ask Assad and the Iranians how striped people act.

[Sailor]

Let me try to sound a couple of "pluses"
-For Russia: a squadron of sushki in Baranovichi will cover Kaliningrad, which, no matter how fortified it remains, is surrounded by NATO.
-For RB: non-repayable loans, discount gas, open to your goods the Russian market.
Do not worry about sometimes harsh comments from Russia, but being an ally implies support. The British fought for the Americans in the BV and many where they supported, and the Belarus brothers ???

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Seaman

and Belarusians ???

and the Belarusians-brothers do not recognize Crimea, therefore they do not recognize our borders, and therefore our sovereignty

[kig]

Crimea does not recognize Lukashenko, how the Belarusians relate to this, none of us knows. And Old Man, most likely, does not like the way of acquiring Crimea too much.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: kig

Crimea does not recognize Lukashenko, how the Belarusians relate to this, none of us knows. And Old Man, most likely, does not like the way of acquiring Crimea too much.

as a clarification - yes, you wrote it right, but in general it’s so clear that in this case I speak for the top of the neighboring country and not for the population

[Sergej1972]

Lavrov is only 4 years older than Lukashenko.

[Victor N]

So much the worse for the population: it is not capable of adequately assessing realities - it is zombified.

[Victor N]

Yes, among the boys, he will even marry an intellectual. BUT, I’m sure the majority of the population are not guys.

[demo]

Repeat the path of Gaddafi, Milosevic, Saddam Hussein. In extreme cases, Pasha Borodin?
Old Man is certainly not a genius. God did not love him very much.
But he does not hold animal instincts!
Will not run.
There are many free cameras in Florence ADMAX.

[Thrall]

Quote: demo

As a last resort Pasha Borodin

Nothing to roam around New York, having the status of Secretary of State of a nonexistent state

[demo]

At that moment, when this "turkey" was locked in the cell, I laughed and sobbed.
What kind of "gifted" you need to be to, knowing all your deeds, to be trampled into that country, whose money you stuffed into your pockets?
And to think that there you will be praised and treated.
And even he decided not to take a diplomatic passport.
Wow Lucky for us on the leaders!
No matter how crook, so dumb.

[Ros 56]

And what about Borodin, I forgot about him?

[demo]

Pasha was engaged in the reconstruction of the Grand Kremlin Palace.
And the money was allocated by the Americans (it was the same time!).
Pasha Borodin was the main contractor for "sawing".
His uncomplicated actions very quickly became the property of the American "public".
And then Pasha was sent an invitation to the inauguration of the American president.
Well, he popped up.
At his own expense flew.
And he was arrested.
And put in a Manhattan prison.
The poem remembered on this subject.

And from our window
The Red Square is visible.
And from our window
Just a little statue.

And it was like that.
A financial and political scandal is gaining momentum, in the center of which is Pavel Borodin, former Chief of Staff of the President of Russia and now Secretary of the Union of Russia and Belarus. Swiss judge Daniel Devo confirmed the issuance of an arrest warrant for Borodin - due to the presence of documents confirming his participation in money laundering. The first of the major Western newspapers to publish extensive information about the Borodin case was the Parisian newspaper Le Le Monde.

[Ros 56]

Thank you very much for the information, I heard and even saw about the Kremlin repair, and then somehow everything became dark.

[Sergei71]

will entice him in the west and will run to meet them

In the "east" there is a virtual economy with a virtual GDP, so purkua-no-pa? Especially if they "run over"?

[Civil]

And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has repeatedly said, including when answering the question about the base, that Belarus is one hundred percent Russia’s ally

This one said a lot of things, but he already ran and put up with the State Department, he returned the ambassador. Deny is everything.

[maxim947]

Lukashenko noted that Belarus does not need Russian military pilots, since "there are our own", but Belarus needs Russian aircraft.

Here the quote is not given in full, they were invited to supply this aircraft of Russia for free ....
In general, you are boiling from scratch, why do we need a base there ?? Belarusians themselves will cope. Especially taking into account the presence of the Kaliningrad region.

[Karabas]

our base is generally obliged to be there when the United States places a tank battalion on the border with Belarus ..

So what's so bad? It will fight off on its own, it’s cheaper for us.

[Ural-4320]

And you look at it this way: it will put the Russian Federation on its base, the troops of Belarus can relax. Maybe Old Man feels it / understands, and therefore does not give the go-ahead, so that his people do not relax.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Svarog

our base is generally obliged to be there when the United States places a tank battalion on the border with Belarus ..

It seems that this is Lukashenka’s toothache.

[Olya Tsako]

“A very honest, decent person, a very religious person. Yes, he is overly nationalistic, more than me. Well, people are different, ”Lukashenka described in April 2014 of the year acting President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov. A few days earlier, the latter gave the order to begin an anti-terrorist operation in the Donbass
.-THIS characterizes the worldview of this agronomist by 100%.

[Olya Tsako]

And you-SALE meager nihilists, enemies of Russia! A fiery hyena awaits you with your labyrinthine worldview. A glamor to your huts!

[novel66]

I even know how she looks ..

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: Olya Tsako

And you-SALE meager nihilists, enemies of Russia! A fiery hyena awaits you with your labyrinthine worldview. A glamor to your huts!

Long since the mountains?
We have ... the enemies burned their own HUT ... ''
Kilmanda?

[Labrador]

Then Alexander Grigoryevich was simply offended that the EBN, leaving instead of putting him (AHL) on the reign of a union state, gave Russia its GDP.

[Lexus]

The situation with the union of Russia and Belarus has long been described by Ivan Andreevich Krylov in two fables: "The Quartet" and "The Swan, Pike and Cancer."

[TARSUS]

Are you sure that we Belarusians want this "union" state?

[Michman]

And who will ask you? This state is not for you at all, but for us, that is, Russia.

[TARSUS]

Well, nakoy such an ally as you, when the opinion of a neighbor is unimportant? No wonder it turns out that almost the whole world despises Russia. And yes, in Belarus, most of the population is anti-Russian if that.

[mso.716]

It seems that you are lying about the majority of the population .. Although, in general, I agree with you. What would you like to be your allies you need to attract something .. And with this, the business of the modern Russian Federation has problems

[TARSUS]

My whole environment, these are almost all people with higher education, and they are precisely against this union. But according to my observations, who has only 9-11 grades of education, then the whole picture is 50/50. Draw your own conclusions.

[gost2012]

There is a completely opposite opinion on the ground, and yours is very similar to what you want, but, to put it mildly, not consistent with the truth.

[Roller Coaster1863]

This is true! I know little of the supporters of the union!

[Okolotochny]

See the gopher? But he is. If you do not know, it does not mean that this is not. He thinks he is a land navel?

[Islam G]

Go to am, here they will ask your opinion.

[KJIETyc]

I recognize the zmagar speaking for all. I am from Belarus, I am configured about Russian like most of my comrades. But I am against various frostbitten outcasts and Russian Nazis and dummies.

[gost2012]

I fully support.

[Roller Coaster1863]

In my circle of friends the opposite picture. Independence and freedom are sacred.

[Michman]

I am in the course. Anti-Russian configured, and the Russian feeder. Chopped off if you have all the economic ties, will you go far? Spit on your contempt. I was born and raised in the Smolensk region, so I know that I am writing. Brothers. Without the loans of Russia on my bulb, they would quickly grow wiser.

[TARSUS]

The friendship of Russia and Belarus resembles a drug addict and drug lord. Planted on free oil, gas and subsidies. We sat because of this and did not develop. And after a while, how nice they got hooked, oh yes, cut the freebie and demand payment in the form of privatization of state enterprises. And in case of refusal of loyalty, they threaten to block gas and oil supplies. With such a friend, and no America is needed, that would ruin everything.

[Cat man null]

Quote: TARS

We sat because of this and did not develop.

Without this, you would already be lying. Either just like that, or under the Americans.

And also would not have developed

[TARSUS]

Poland also lies under America, so 1/3 rb on weekends in this Poland and goes to purchases.

[Michman]

I don’t understand what to stand on ceremony with? They’re so independent on their own. And bite the hand of the lactating ..... you need to do it to kiss and indicate the place clearly.

[meGrail]

Crown imperial head does not shake?

[Michman]

Not at all. With the slaves of the poor just the way it should be.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Without this, you would already be lying. Or just like that, or under the Americans

What is curious, this individual writes the names of the states of Russia and the Republic of Belarus with a small letter, and Poland with a capital (and then Poland with a small one, what a curious individual), pay attention.

[Michman]

It was right at a standstill that from free oil to bum with oil products, shrimps and Polish apples to the impudent one.

[TARSUS]

And did you suffer from Polish apples and shrimp so much? When was the last time you ate shrimp? Please share your level of well-being. And then it seems to me that you use them only in pictures.

[Michman]

I live in the Primorsky Territory. I served in Kamchatka, so that I caught both shrimp and crab. I stayed to live permanently in Far East. I am a pensioner, I work for SSK STAR

[zache]

So whoever ate all the shrimps and crabs in Russia!

[Michman]

It is necessary to import shrimp from bialarus.

[Tank hard]

Quote: TARS

Russia and RB

This is not the first time that you disrespectfully write the name of the state of Russia with a small letter, now you also write Belarus with a small letter, which means you do not respect Belarus too ... Then who are you?

[Naive]

Yah? And can you prove it?

[BecmepH]

Quote: TARS

Are you sure that we Belarusians want this "union" state?

Are you sure that we Russians want this "union" state? Do we want such allies ?!

[TARSUS]

Judging by the comments of this public - just crave.

[aleks26]

Judging by the comments of this public - just crave.

Couple. the three DB on VO is not Russia yet.

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: TARS

Are you sure that we Belarusians want this "union" state?

Yes, there is a suspicion that some are trying to sit on two chairs for their own power. Why should Lukashenko lose power? And he will begin to lose it after the creation of a full-fledged union, and preferably one state. Already about this on this site many times said.

[dmitrii1885]

Well, that's where such thoughts come from. Is that why "must"?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Svarog

In fact, Belarus is 100% ally of Russia,

There are a lot of unpleasant episodes .. there is still no single currency, our base is generally obliged to be there when the US places a tank battalion on the border with Belarus .. The Union State is skidding.

our base is so obliged to be there,

Our military base is needed there, both from the ground forces and from the Air Force, and there are already prerequisites for this, the form of our military unit.

[kiril1246]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Our military base is needed there, both from the ground forces and from the Air Force, and there are already prerequisites for this, the form of our military unit.

It will be like with the Crimea. First, a military base as in Sevastopol, then "unknown" polite people to protect Russian-speaking Belarusians (and this is the whole country), then a referendum and that's it. There was independent Belarus, and the Belarusian region became part of the Russian Federation. And everything is according to the rules, everything is according to the law. You will not undermine.

[Greg Miller]

For Belarus, where government officials rule, where there are no oligarchs, privatization, where corruption is seized with the confiscation of all property ... Russia of the Sechins, Millerov, Grefs, Chubais, Nabiullins and other locusts cannot be an ally ...

[Saul_Rhen]

Oh, the training manuals arrived. You do not have oligarchs, but you also have practically no means of your own. Allies like you cause a sense of disgust. As a base - so proud, independent, but as loans, discounts, smuggling and a freebie - so in the forefront and with mantras about fraternal people

[Greg Miller]

Yes! If Russia lends money to such "friendly" countries as the United States, the European Union, Ukraine, Japan ... which, like Belarus, do not allow Russian bases to be deployed on their territories, then Belarus, which has never done pranks to Russia, is probably also entitled count on the good attitude of Russia ...

[Saul_Rhen]

And the conditions are the same, right? And solvency? You should be sent on a free voyage to eat Square with a spoon, because the investment in such an "ally" does not pay off.

[g1v2]

For any elite of breakaway republics, the main danger is the return to Russia. Another thing is that the economy is far from allowing everyone to pursue a hostile policy, and not everyone can conflict. RB is no exception. Old Man must simultaneously demonstrate readiness for integration and rapprochement in order to receive economic buns, and at the same time keep his distance flirting with the Nazis and the West, so that the Republic of Belarus simply does not become a part of Russia. The thing is common. The stronger Russia is, the worse it will have relations with all the breakaway republics, and Belarus is no exception. It’s another matter that, nevertheless, we have a lot to offer both Lukashenko and the Belarusian elites, and there are chances for integration. Any elite wants to transfer wealth and status to children, to establish a clan. Lukashenko is not eternal and far from the fact that his children will be able to maintain power, position and money. With a high degree of probability they will be torn to pieces. And only Russia can ensure the family of Lukashenko that he will maintain his level even after his death. There is a point in joining or another form of integration for him.

[dik]

So why do we need your base here? Is it necessary to protect from the battalion? Our own army is not bad. Already from the battalion just beat off.

As for the currency, we definitely do not need it. This is a loss of sovereignty.

[Saul_Rhen]

A freebie, loans and unjustified discounts - not a loss?

[Wert]

Is the union state really needed? Well, what a union state, Russia and Belarus are not commensurate. Either let them be part of Russia on the basis of broad autonomy, or we just remain allies.

[Mountain shooter]

Old Man began to play. Well, play out. In autonomy. Few put it in its place ...

[bessmertniy]

Aging, getting worse with a head. And he wants to please everyone, but he can’t. So it turns like between two fires.

[VeteranVSSSR]

And who is older than the Great Pu or Lag?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

And who is older than the Great Pu or Lag?

This is not the main problem, the main thing here is to provide yourself with security and them too.

[Okolotochny]

Pu is your dad?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Old Man began to play. Well, play out. In autonomy. Few put it in its place ...

. Old Man began to play. Well, play out.

Their flirting, it affects us too, is much more painful than ** Kuevskoye, ** it’s better here to hedge against earlier.

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

** Kuevskoye, ** here it is better to secure before

Do you propose not to wait for the weather by the sea, as in Ukraine, and take the bull by the horns?

[Pedrodepackes]

Belarus’s non-recognition of the sovereignty of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, as well as the annexation of Crimea to Russia,

good ally, okay base, but I could observe legal formalities.

[Naive]

I couldn’t, about half of the goods turnover with (the civilized world), and if we recognize the independence of the republics and Crimea, they automatically lose half of the budget and automatically bankrupt the country, hand it over to the Russian elites (and then what remains of Russia itself).

[Pedrodepackes]

Quote: Naive

Could not, about half of the turnover with (civilized world)

As I understand it, if, as Father said, Belarus is 100% Russia's ally, it’s into fire and water together, and if you focus on trade with the “civilized world”, then you need not be hypocritical, but merge with the “civilized world” in ecstasy and then there will be the other half of the turnover and "happiness" full of pants.

[Den717]

Lavrov explained that Russia will not force anyone into anything.

Only between the lines it is necessary to understand that without our WB becoming a certain buffer zone, in the event of a conflict with neighboring Poland (NATO), the Republic of Belarus risks becoming the foreground on which any more or less active conflict will develop.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Den717

The Republic of Belarus runs the risk of becoming the pre-field on which any more or less active conflict will develop.

What the whole story shows, starting 500 years ago.

[Den717]

Quote: tihonmarine

What the whole story shows, starting 500 years ago.

Unfortunately, history is instructive not only to everyone, few whom it teaches ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Den717

history is instructive not only to everyone, few whom it teaches.

Rake alone, but all step on them.

[hydrox]

Yes, but in the legends the story still LIVES!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Den717

Lavrov explained that Russia will not force anyone into anything.

Only between the lines it is necessary to understand that without our WB becoming a certain buffer zone, in the event of a conflict with neighboring Poland (NATO), the Republic of Belarus risks becoming the foreground on which any more or less active conflict will develop.

The Republic of Belarus runs the risk of becoming the pre-field on which any more or less active conflict will develop.

This has always been the case and this cannot be fixed. Even if our military units are standing there, they will still take the first blows.

[Den717]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Even if our military units stand there, they will take the first blows anyway.

If there is a military base of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Republic of Belarus in the event of a conflict, even a border one, makes the Russian Federation a participant in the conflict. And this is not at all just RB. At one time, we maintained a base in Cuba precisely from those considerations for the United States to see the inevitability of a conflict with the USSR during intervention on the island. Although it seems to me, today the development of the further confrontation between the Russian Federation and NATO is not developing towards the usual armed conflict according to the WWII scenario. Today, the emphasis is shifting to subversive work within states, while democratic institutions are used as windows for the penetration of other people's means of influence on sovereign territory. Democracy in the current environment is not entirely good for controlling and maintaining one’s own sovereignty. The military base in this case will not play a role. Therefore, it was so easily abandoned. But the synchronization of the legal field and the unification of the national guard under one command is the key to the confidence of a quiet development in both countries.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

makes the Russian Federation a party to the conflict.

Even without a military base, we will become participants in this conflict, it is better then to insure yourself in advance and place a base there, it will be at least some kind of counterbalance.

we maintained a base in Cuba

And they did the right thing to maintain their base in Cuba; there was a good counterbalance and argument to the minke whales.

Although it seems to me, today the development of the further confrontation between the Russian Federation and NATO is not developing towards the usual armed conflict according to the WWII scenario. Today, emphasis is shifting to subversive work within states, while democratic institutions are used as windows for the penetration of other people's means of influence on sovereign territory.

That’s the point, the minke whales value their skin in order to confront us openly, and for this they chose and preferred the information war.

Democracy in the current environment is not entirely good for controlling and maintaining one’s own sovereignty.

She never appeared to her.

The military base in this case will not play a role.

But they will be able to keep that country from Maidan and revolutions.

But the synchronicity of the legal sex and the unification of the national guard under one command is the key to the confidence of quiet development in both countries.

If there is a base in that country, then we can assume that both countries are moving in the same direction and provide the prerequisites for the synchronization of the legal field.

[Den717]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

If there is a base in that country, then we can assume that both countries are moving in the same direction and provide the prerequisites for the synchronization of the legal field.

It is doubtful. Do you suggest the possibility of participation of military personnel in the internal conflict of the country where the base is located? Utopia. This is completely illegal. Only the ability to quickly create a concentration of contingents of internal troops (the National Guard) allows us to adequately respond to changes in the situation and the emergence of threats of riots.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Do you suggest the possibility of participation of military personnel in the internal conflict of the country where the base is located

This is not a utopia, but a normal phenomenon in the modern world.

. This is completely illegal.

And who needs this legality, you better tell the whale when they do it.

Only the ability to quickly create a concentration of contingents of internal troops (the National Guard) allows us to adequately respond to changes in the situation and the emergence of threats of riots.

It is the same.

[Den717]

It is the same.

Yes, not really .... you are probably far from such problems, but believe me, each fruit has its own basket. VV were VV because the legal status was intended for internal showdowns. The National Guard has its purpose, similar to BB. See 226FZ and 61FZ, everything is written there in an accessible language.
[/ quote] And who needs this legality, you better tell the minke whales when they do it. [quote = SERGEY SERGEEVICS]
And look, one hundred there is going on. Everything is based on laws. And we all live in compliance with the laws. Otherwise, it will be worse than in December 1917.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Yes, not really .... you are probably far from such problems, but believe me, each fruit has its own basket

I know everything about explosives, from cover to cover

VV were VV because the legal status was intended for internal showdowns. The National Guard has its purpose, similar to BB. See 226FZ and 61FZ, everything is written there in an accessible language.

All right, you wrote about VV, but they always sent support to the infantry.

And look, one hundred there is going on.

What is going on there? they also do not have everything as smoothly as they say from the stands.

Everything is based on laws. And we all live in compliance with the laws. Otherwise, it will be worse than in December 1917.

Yes, we have this, everything is according to the laws, on these laws, and the countries hold on.

Otherwise, it will be worse than in December 1917.

But this is not necessary, once already enough in full.

[hydrox]

Now there will be NO pre-field: mainly non-military contingents will be destroyed: first of all, military infrastructure will be destroyed (bases, communication lines, all radars and transport hubs, ports, strategic enterprises and state reserve warehouses ...), and this will be done for a dozen minutes, from the power of half an hour, no more.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Well, yes, that’s how it will be, at military bases and will exchange missiles.

[hydrox]

Not so: the one who starts, while having first-class air defense and electronic warfare, wins.
You yourself understand that the Russian army is conditionally accepted as an army standard, with the condition of stability of the conflict to the regional (controversy is possible).

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Not so: the one who starts, while having first-class air defense and electronic warfare, wins.

Again, you mixed something up and didn’t understand. That’s not the case and win wars, who will have more resources and weapons will rule the ball.

You understand, the Russian army is conditionally accepted as an army standard,

If our army was taken as the quality, then the standard will go about it.

with the condition of stability of the conflict to regional (controversy is possible).

And how can there be a stable conflict? if one name already says the opposite, there is only one controversy called conflict.

[hydrox]

I do not want to waste time discussing the network war in terms and concepts of Clausewitz: after all, the Russians wrote in white that any military conflict with a country the size of Poland ends within an hour (we are not talking about Germany (in relation to which we there is no purpose to conquer it)), the USA is an individual article ...

[Naive]

In my opinion, the Republic of Belarus will fly first in any situation, there will be Russian bases, NATO glassblowers will not arrive, Russian will fly in and glaze the buffer zone

[The Siberian barber]

Poor Old Man!
Now it will fly, from him, from readers of VO - it will not be washed away forever

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Siberian barber

Poor Old Man!
Now it will fly, from him, from readers of VO - it will not be washed away forever

He doesn’t get used to it

[Professor]

The refusal of Belarus to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is, of course, an unpleasant episode, but we must understand that Minsk is Moscow’s ally on everything 100%.

According to the head of the foreign ministry, Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode. In fact, Belarus is 100% an ally of Russia, including militarily.

And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly said, including when answering the question about the base, that Belarus is Russia’s ally on everything one hundred percent and that the Belarusian armed forces should be seen as protecting our common interests and our common territory

Yes, we understood, understood. At 100%. Why repeat so many times?

[carstorm 11]

very much to the point)))) well, at least there are no complaints about the font)))

[Okolotochny]

Ordinary Jewish twists and verbiage. He wants to bite, but for what he does not know.

[sergo1914]

Quote: professor

The refusal of Belarus to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is, of course, an unpleasant episode, but we must understand that Minsk is Moscow’s ally on everything 100%.

According to the head of the foreign ministry, Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode. In fact, Belarus is 100% an ally of Russia, including militarily.

And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly said, including when answering the question about the base, that Belarus is Russia’s ally on everything one hundred percent and that the Belarusian armed forces should be seen as protecting our common interests and our common territory

Yes, we understood, understood. At 100%. Why repeat so many times?

Depending on the context and intonation, these may be different numbers.

[Antares]

Quote: professor

Yes, we understood, understood. At 100%. Why repeat so many times

repetition is the mother of learning.
Apparently the author wants us to remember the key phrase .. And even better, recorded it.
Yes, in the world everyone understands the situation.

[helmi8]

Quote: Antares

Apparently the author wants us to remember the key phrase .. And even better, recorded it.

"Stirlitz knew that the last phrase is remembered ..." ©

[Okolotochny]

What didn’t she die or already?

[MMX]

Quote: professor

The refusal of Belarus to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is, of course, an unpleasant episode, but we must understand that Minsk is Moscow’s ally on everything 100%.

According to the head of the foreign ministry, Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode. In fact, Belarus is 100% an ally of Russia, including militarily.

And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly said, including when answering the question about the base, that Belarus is Russia’s ally on everything one hundred percent and that the Belarusian armed forces should be seen as protecting our common interests and our common territory

Yes, we understood, understood. At 100%. Why repeat so many times?

Mr Lukashenko once again hints to Russia that the year is nearing completion and it is time to think about another allocation of money by Russia (preferably $ 1,5-2 billion) to maintain the ally’s pants.

[Herman 4223]

Give the union state! The fact that Lukashenko forbids us to build a base is that he is trying to raise his rating, and the corrupt elite who is looking to the west are playing along. Look, they say, what independent pepper I am, while I will never be in power with Russia. Oh, the old man will not sit on two chairs, someone will get tired of it, they will kick him out from under the fifth point.

[Piramidon]

... Minsk's refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory ...

Information for thought for those who constantly demand to place our bases in Cuba here and believe that this can be done very simply. If the "one hundred percent" ally did not allow ...

[novel66]

in Cuba, it’s clear why .. and in Belarus, I don’t know if we need

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: novel xnumx

in Cuba, it’s clear why .. and in Belarus, I don’t know if we need

What I’m talking about. The country we have is that the basketball court is 4/5 hours drive from border to border.
And in the `` underbelly '' of Uncle Sam is weak, because personal thumbs are stored there.
Arithmetic is here elementary ...

[novel66]

shitty arithmetic here ..

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: novel xnumx

shitty arithmetic here ..

So I say that without a Lag-Rhythmic line you can’t calculate ...

[novel66]

without this ?? count there ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: novel xnumx

in Cuba, it’s clear why .. and in Belarus, I don’t know if we need

Roman, the question is not - why, but that it is not as easy to do as it seems to some. Here I am talking about.

[novel66]

this is understandable, perseverance against the union state is incomprehensible

[mso.716]

And why on a cube? What would you like to place there

[hydrox]

And I would stick a couple of bases on the Suvalki corridor: I would ban the runway 3,5 km, build a six-row autobahn and lay a three-track rail, and on both sides - an electronic fence with robo-firing points, with space shot to a single meter, with a defeat depth of 2 km - and in this case we will not need any other allied bases.
In the event of even a single provocation, it would increase the width of the corridor to 10 km.

[novel66]

need a lot of dough ... a lot

[hydrox]

Not very much: one side of the corridor is Pshek, there will be no conversation with them, but the other Lithuanian one would think what conditions to offer to the Lithuanians so that they SELL us these lands (otherwise we will take them for free!)
A gas discount, oil is a little cheaper, jobs at the bases, food supply at the bases, some kind of port for rent - again, jobs: they have so much shit that it can be a good topic for conversation (at the same time, there’s a good wedge between Lithuania and donuts! ) ...

[novel66]

"small and insignificant individuals" (c) will take money, but they will not stop making terrible faces

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Piramidon

If the "one hundred percent" ally did not allow ...

But fin whales don't ask anyone for permission. Impudence "great happiness".

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Piramidon

... Minsk's refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory ...

Information for thought for those who constantly demand to place our bases in Cuba here and believe that this can be done very simply. If the "one hundred percent" ally did not allow ...

And with Cuba, it’s much easier, everything is already there, and the country's leadership always looks positively at this, in contrast to this situation.

[Roman070280]

the main thing is not form, but content. And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly said

That's right .. the main thing is not done, but what is said ..

Here in the form in our country more than half of the population do not live, but survive ..
And if in terms of content, then we have made a breakthrough and created a prosperous state ..

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Maybe someone knows which base Lukashenka did not want to host? I mean the specialization of this base - for aviation, for reconnaissance, for ground forces, for Iskander, for air defense and missile defense, etc. Who knows, let me know.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

Maybe someone knows which base Lukashenka did not want to host? I mean the specialization of this base - for aviation, for reconnaissance, for ground forces, for Iskander, for air defense and missile defense, etc. Who knows, let me know.

what kind of base did Lukashenko not want to place?

The Air Force, he believes that it is not advisable to deploy our base, because of the short time it takes to fly from our country to them, it takes 10-12 minutes.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

Thanks for clarifying!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal

Thanks for clarifying!

Yes please!

[Bshkaus]

Something tells me that in front of us unpleasant episodes await us in the likeness of the Minsk Maidan.

[dirk182]

Yes, he is simply afraid of the analogy with the Crimea. And then at one point, the Mogilev People's Republic will appear. In light of recent events. Namely, his actual rejection of the proposed GDP integration. Even decided to return the US ambassador

[VeteranVSSSR]

But Smolenskaya in the Republic of Belarus does not roll?

[Michman]

Tipun to your tongue. For words like that. Smolensk-bulbasham ???? pipes !!!

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: Michman

Tipun to your tongue. For words like that. Smolensk-bulbasham ???? pipes !!!

And what is it so zebol?

[Michman]

Because it’s my homeland. All the relatives live there.

[novel66]

referendum!! referendum!!! referendum!!!

[vitvit123]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

But Smolenskaya in the Republic of Belarus does not roll?

Well, if the Smolensk region. She lived at the expense of Belarus! .. one could speak, and so ...

[Sergej1972]

Great Russians live there. Why do they need to Belarus?

[Igoresha]

no, this does not roll twice, if the Old Man himself would have voiced the reason for the forum users not to guess

[Yuri Kudryavtsev]

Minister Lavrov thinks in terms of the past hegemony of the Russian Federation within the USSR. Belarus is no longer a Soviet republic subordinate to the interests of the CPSU. She is Russia’s 100-percent ally in relations with NATO only in economic matters. In the geopolitical struggle for existence, she will try to act sovereignly in the interests of the Belarusian people in accordance with international law and the UN Charter.

[Livonetc]

Are you a student of a university?

[Michman]

She will act as directed from the Kremlin. For this, we feed these spinognies.

[VeteranVSSSR]

Midshipman, do you want me to surprise you? Oh, excuse the breadwinner, but do you know that the Russians come to work with us more than the back-eaters (to you with a small letter, because I meant your country)?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

Midshipman, do you want me to surprise you? Oh, excuse me, the breadwinner, but you know that Russians come to work with us more than spin gnaws to you

He is from Vladik, everything is his way. Builds gas carriers slowly for the joy of the national wealth.

[Okolotochny]

Well, he is a gas carrier, and someone secretly knives knives. Rate the scale!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Okolotochny

and someone secretly knives knives.

And not on the sly. Yesterday I drank vodka with a comrade lieutenant colonel, here is a pen I twanged him twenty years ago when they were sent to Chechnya.

[vitvit123]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

Midshipman, do you want me to surprise you? Oh, excuse the breadwinner, but do you know that the Russians come to work with us more than the back-eaters (to you with a small letter, because I meant your country)?

Well, it's probably building the nuclear power plant that you [yourself] do, on [your] money ... why look for mice when everyone, everyone understands ...

[Michman]

Well, well ..... only these are our personnel who receive salary from Russia, in rubles, and not in your candy wrappers, and these are professional personnel, and not builders of cottages.

[Umalta]

Do not touch the country !!!

[Umalta]

There were many of these, acting in the interests and where they are now, and the base is a guarantee against the Maidan of the work of "great crap"

[Tank hard]

According to the head of the foreign ministry, Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode. In fact, Belarus is 100% Russia's ally, including militarily.

This is just a "masterpiece pearl"! I alone do not understand how you can be a 100% ally of Russia militarily and forbid ally station allied forces on its territory ?!

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: Tank Hard

According to the head of the foreign ministry, Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode. In fact, Belarus is 100% Russia's ally, including militarily.

This is just a "masterpiece pearl"! I alone do not understand how you can be a 100% ally of Russia militarily and forbid ally station allied forces on its territory ?!

But why?

[Tank hard]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

But why?

I will answer you in your style:
- And what do you think why?

[VeteranVSSSR]

I, thinking that the base is needed to save the World, I would even add that to save the universe.
True, my opinion may not coincide with the opinion of the government of the Russian Federation.
In short, keep on ... to show / express concern ... ''

[Tank hard]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

I, thinking that the base is needed to save the World, I would even add that to save the Universe

Congratulations, you crushed me with your intellect.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

I, thinking that the base is needed to save the World, I would even add that to save the universe.

And if Lukashenko is against the base, then he is against saving the universe. That is, he is an agent of reptilians. And most likely the reptiloid itself.

[g_ae]

I apologize for interfering, but I also do not understand, what for we have a Russian military base. It will not provide our security. One base also will not provide Russian security. So, after all, the main danger for Russia comes, by and large, from Russia itself. But this base will not help in any way from internal Russian problems. To aggravate - yes. Yes, this base and Russia as a dog needs a fifth leg. And such proposals are made specifically to be refused. Something like a proposal for Belarus to become part of the Russian Federation in six areas. And after the refusal to raise the high, they say, all around are traitors, etc. The king’s quote about the allies is again an excuse to screw up.

[Tank hard]

Quote: g_ae

what for we have a Russian military base.

So I am for supplying you with resources (oil, gas, etc.) at a fair market price, as in Germany, nothing personal, only business .And they are about 100% ally ...

[g_ae]

The price can be either fair or market. The notion "fair market" is absurd. And I repeat again. We do not need a base for Russia itself and nafig. But talking about it as a means and method of pressure in negotiations is another matter. And then, what does Lavrov have to do with military issues? None. And his comments have the same weight. Better to take care of the squeezed out diplomatic property. Or have you already understood and forgiven?

[Tank hard]

Quote: g_ae

The notion "fair market" is absurd.

Well, yes, well, yes, those who like cheaper, and even for nothing, like to say so fraternally ( but something happened - right away - "not brothers now you to us" )

Quote: g_ae

And then, what does Lavrov have to do with military issues? Nothing. And comments have the same weight. Let’s do it better with wrung out property. Or have you already understood and forgiven?

That's what beckoning amuses some, they know exactly what Lavrov needs to do. Do not scold him so much, do not put in a corner ...

[g_ae]

And this is not difficult. If we take into account that Vladimir Vladimirovich selects his cadres not by reason, professionalism or competence, but by fidelity. That is, an official can be a fool, a thief, a bribe taker (it’s even better, because there is more dirt and a stronger hook). But if you are faithful, please join the team. And yes, I am far from the Lavra. I don’t smoke a pipe. I’m even far from Masha Zakharova. I don’t know how to dance. No diplomat. Is it only in the economic block. They accept all the orphans and the wretched.

[Michman]

And they are against this. Russia’s advantage, but for cheap loans, etc.

[Umalta]

And who also prevents formal consent, because the base is a lot of money and plus the work for the population around the base and not the fact that the Russian Federation will find this money and thus remove this issue - pressure from the agenda.

[Bumblebee_3]

Tank hard
And you can assume that Lukashenko believes that the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus are an allied part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? Like in the days of the USSR, there were military districts. And if necessary, the General Staff of the Republic of Belarus will be in close cooperation with the General Staff of the Russian Federation.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

And you can assume that Lukashenko believes that the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus are an allied part of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation? Like in the days of the USSR, there were military districts. And if necessary, the General Staff of the Republic of Belarus will be in close cooperation with the General Staff of the Russian Federation.

I kind of commented on the words of the head of the Russian foreign ministry that surprised me (judging by the article) about a 100% military ally, I did not comment on what Mr. Lukashenko believes ... I don’t know what Lukashenko thinks, he did not share with me.

[novel66]

question per million (maybe not one)

[Troll]

Let's look from the other side. Will Russia agree to the deployment on its territory of a military base of a 100% ally - Belarus?
Perhaps not. Therefore, the situation, although unpleasant, is understandable. Belorussia is an ally, not a vassal.

[Umalta]

Yes, easily, but where do they want ?! And who will pay for the holiday ?!

[Troll]

>> Yes, easily .. <
From accuracy to the other way around. Everything is very, very difficult. Although the possibility exists, in particular, in the framework of the agreement on the creation of the Collective Rapid Reaction Forces as part of the CSTO.

[Umalta]

That's exactly what is possible, but I repeat again, and who will pay for the holiday ?!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Tank Hard

I alone do not understand how it is possible to be 100% Russia's ally militarily and prohibit an ally from stationing allied forces on its territory ?!

I also do not understand how you can enter the EAEU, and at the same time stick sticks in the wheels.

[dik]

Surely one. It would be strange if the ally had an unlimited right to deploy his troops wherever he wanted.

[Tank hard]

Quote: dik

It would be strange if an ally had unlimited right to deploy troops wherever he wants.

You are not talking about the United States and its allies accidentally mentioned?

[Maalkavianin]

Belarus will soon become our ally, as Ukraine is now. Everything goes to that.

[Bumblebee_3]

Malkavianin (Miklos)
It will go to this if Russia behaves in the same way towards Belarus as it did towards Ukraine. Maybe I was behind the times, but I didn’t hear: “Belarus is Europe” or “Belarus is not Russia”.

[Maalkavianin]

That is, to give money tranches, privileges in trade, get involved in the economy? This is bad? Although yes, it is apparently bad and must be stopped then. And then people suffer.

[Bumblebee_3]

Malkavianin (Miklos)
From your post, I realized that you are an accountant or an economist by profession. All translate to money.

[Maalkavianin]

Not guessed. But, yes, no matter how sad it sounds, now it all comes down to money. Or resources. But what do you think Russia should do for Belarus, if money is not the main thing in our life?

[Bumblebee_3]

Malkavianin (Miklos)
You are partly right. But I think that money cannot buy friendship and love. If you approach this, then Russia is not in an advantageous position. The USA has more money! Somewhere I heard one expression of Berezovsky's type: "You don't need to buy a plant - buy a director!" It is according to this scenario that our opponents act. After all, the states themselves admitted that they spent 5 billion for the coup in Ukraine. They bought up the top and that's it. That was enough.

[Maalkavianin]

In relations between states there is neither friendship, nor love - only interests. And about the USA .. Well, yes, they have incomparably more opportunities and money, including. But the USA is overseas, and Belarus and I are neighbors. We live next to each other. If we give Belarus various concessions, then somehow, within the framework of the same union state, I would like to see support for our decisions in politics. So it works. I basically understand why Lukashenko does not want to go for it. He wants to remain a neutral country. But damn it! Belarus has a large part of the economy tied to us, so why bother? There is mechanical engineering and it is in demand, oil products are also processed - process and trade, agricultural products from Belarus are appreciated and well accepted, damn it, even shoes are bought for themselves. And this is not to mention the common history, families. And in general, the attitude towards Belarusians has always been like his own on the board. This has never happened to Ukrainians. But there is no pancake, it is necessary to sit on all the stools that are, be sure to invent something like that. Get hold of yourself.

[Bumblebee_3]

Malkavianin (Miklos)
You're right! There was a similar attitude towards the Belarusians, and towards the Ukrainians in the eastern and central parts, the attitude was similar. I agree with you, the Belarusian machine-building industry is really tied to us! But! Do you see a lot of MAZ trucks on our roads? Are there many trolleybuses, of the same MAZ, that travel around Russian cities? Who if not Russian officials (the Ministry of Health, as an example) suspended the export of products from Belarus? Who then laughed that "Belarusian shrimps and oysters" were on sale? Of course, Polish apples are tastier and healthier than Kuban or Belarusian apples, because they were bought for foreign currency! I agree, Batka is wrong in many ways, but sometimes, our bureaucrats, leave him no other choice but to maneuver

[Umalta]

Well, as soon as you hear this, you should know that the United States and other "cool democracies" stuck their noses up to their ears in Belarus and bought up almost all the managers around Batko, and soon he will have the same khan and Belarus.

[Bumblebee_3]

Umalta
Let me ask. Who are you talking to?

[Umalta]

Malkavianin (Miklos)
"You are partly right. But I think that friendship and love cannot be bought with money. If you approach this, then Russia is not in an advantageous position. The United States has more money! Somewhere I heard one expression of Berezovsky's type:" You don't need to buy a plant - buy a director. "

Well, as soon as you hear this, you should know that the United States and other "cool democracies" stuck their noses up to their ears in Belarus and bought up almost all the managers around Batko, and soon he will have the same khan and Belarus.

[Bumblebee_3]

Umalta
Gloomy prospect! Only I think that Lukashenko will put things in order. And where in the countries of the former USSR, in another way? U.S. ears stick out everywhere! In the Russian Federation, they still have not climbed out of the pit into which they hit the dashing 90s. Have we completely restored our production, both in industry and in agriculture? Did import substitution take place?

[Umalta]

It is difficult for me to judge for all the people of the Russian Federation, personally I do not feel bad and I am not an official, but a simple employee, of course, it became much better than it was, but the pension reform and other government steps are worthy of the guys who made this decision to dispose of. In my opinion, Lukashenka is just a good business executive, but strategically we should be together, like the "Ukrainians", with the exception of the western part. There is a big risk that he will finish badly before the Maidan.

[Bumblebee_3]

Umalta
There is also a risk of the Maidan in Russia. Suffice it to recall the recent actions of the "opposition" at rallies. I mean Sable and others like her. I completely agree with you, some members should be disposed of as enemies of the people. Yes, and "pinch the tongues" some would be worth it. Like Latynina. What breeding ground are they grown to? Water this hotbed with acid, sulfuric or hydrochloric.

[Umalta]

Those who remember the 90s will simply tear up the liberalists, and most of them, not in vain, accepted the pension reform, so that those who at that time were at the most active age died, it’s much easier for young people to brainwash.

[Maalkavianin]

You will probably be even more surprised, but if you are a normal Russian, he is the one who is used to being kept by his neighbors for a fool, scandalizing him, and he only claps with silly eyes, then yes, I’m an abnormal Russian. And if we are friends with Belarusians, then let it be friendship, not friendship for another bag of money. Such friendship nafig unnecessary.

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Svarog

In fact, Belarus is 100% ally of Russia,

There are a lot of unpleasant episodes .. there is still no single currency, our base is generally obliged to be there when the US places a tank battalion on the border with Belarus .. The Union State is skidding.

The single currency on the terms of Belarus .... You need to be a layman to yearn for this. The world agrees that the most economically powerful country is the ONLY issuer of this currency. With the name of the American dollar. So from what, one wonders, the ruble should, in the minds of the comrade chairman of the collective farm, be issued also in Minsk. With less than 5% of total GDP, the desire to get dough as much as you want, and uncontrollably, will ruin any money system.

[Troll]

An ally is not a vassal. It's a shame, but understandable.

[evgen1221]

Is Belarus 100% Russia's Military Ally? Well, in the light of all the events from 91g, it looks like Russia is 100% Minsk’s military ally and not vice versa.

[Vladimir61]

And to me, this whole performance with the Union State, and even with the CSTO, resembles a one-way street - Give Russia, help, forgive, give in and if something happens, cover our asses!
Which of these "allies" recognized Crimea, condemned the coup d'etat in Ukraine, supported Russia, on these issues, or condemned the sanctions against it, at the UN, the EU?
What is better for a developing "organism", vitamins or saltiters?

[VeteranVSSSR]

Quote: Vladimir61

And to me, this whole performance with the Union State, and even with the CSTO, resembles a one-way street - Give Russia, help, forgive, give in and if something happens, cover our asses!
Which of these "allies" recognized Crimea, condemned the coup d'etat in Ukraine, supported Russia, on these issues, or condemned the sanctions against it, at the UN, the EU?
What is better for a developing "organism", vitamins or saltiters?

True, the body needs to know that it has a saltpeter.
Do all the analysis on the egg / worm !!! Forward comrades !!! Hurray !!!

[Bumblebee_3]

VeteranVSSSR (Gennady)
You seem to be a serious person, but now you have written nonsense (my opinion). Vladimir is right in many respects, but on the other hand, why the hell do we need “recognition” or “non-recognition” of Crimea? Crimea is Russian, period. Whoever disagrees - let them go through the forest. Well, about the sanctions - they have been and will be! You can't get away from this.

[VeteranVSSSR]

And at the expense of the Crimea ...
In my understanding, Crimea is an original Russian territory, and if one Ukrainian annexed this island to Ukraine, this does not mean that it has always been like that, but ...:
Where have you been all these years?
Where were you in 1991?
Where were you in 2000?
You can do a lot, but where have you been ...

[Bumblebee_3]

VeteranVSSSR (Gennady)
Didn't you confuse anything? Where is this island, which "one Ukrainian annexed to Ukraine"? I do not know this. By the way, I will express my opinion about the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine. I think that Khrushchev could not see what happened in 1991 even in his nightmare. He could have envisioned armada of bombers, missile attacks on the USSR, but not the collapse of the USSR. And at that moment in 1954, we were all one country. He simply shifted Crimea from one jacket pocket to another. Before the collapse of the USSR. there was no question about the ownership of the Crimea. It was all-Union!
On the second question - where I was. I was not a member of the government to make decisions at the union level. He did his job honestly, like many citizens.

[Umalta]

“This is a really unpleasant episode. But the main thing is not the form, but the content. And according to the content, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko has repeatedly said, including answering the question about the base, that Belarus is one hundred percent Russia's ally and that the Belarusian armed forces should be considered as protecting our common interests and our common territory "
The content that is mentioned in the quote is just a verbal chatter, but real things are not visible !!! Only preferences for energy are shaken out of the Russian Federation, it is really not necessary to force anyone, the ally must act as an ally, and we have many allies like Belarus. In a word, a weather vane, an ass that tries to sit on two chairs, that’s the whole ally.

[kutuz]

"Minsk is 100% Moscow's ally" - why deceive yourself? Russia has no allies, there are economically dependent states, and these are different things.

[nnz226]

Suspicious 100% ally .... As in a comedy: "I am tormented by vague doubts!"

[awg75]

let's admit the obvious, if Lukashenko receives a favorable offer from the United States, he will sell Russia without even thinking.

[Bumblebee_3]

awg75 (andrew)
My advice to you, do not measure on your own. We don’t know how Lukashenko will act!

[dik]

And what will this recognition give you?

And if in essence, then hardly. The United States is far away, and Russia is close by. Because this quarrel is almost almost suicide

[dik]

[quote = Vladimir61]
[quote = Vladimir61] And to me, this whole performance with the Union State, and with the CSTO, is reminiscent of a one-way street, - Russia, help, forgive, give in and if that happens, cover our asses!
Which of these "allies" recognized Crimea, condemned the coup d'etat in Ukraine, supported Russia, on these issues, or condemned the sanctions against it, at the UN, the EU?
[/ Quote]

Very funny logic. When you conquered the Crimea, you didn’t ask us, your ally, but didn’t inform you at all. But for some reason you want us to unconditionally support you.

Indeed, one-way traffic.

[Bumblebee_3]

dik (Dmitry)
What are you carrying for a blizzard? When did Russia invade Crimea? Maybe the referendum was "at gunpoint"? Did the Ukrainian army resist for a long time, defending Crimea from "capture"?

[silver169]

Who captured the Crimea? How can one capture what has always been his own? RUSSIAN! Calm down, dick! Stop writing nonsense. Go potato pancakes or something, maybe then enlightenment will come in your head.

[silver169]

While Luke is in power, the union state is nothing more than a fiction.

[Bumblebee_3]

silver169 (Yuri Gennadievich)
Hmm. If Shushkevich were in power, everything would be in chocolate

[Umalta]

Shushkevich people of Belarus would not have survived for a long time, a small country in five seconds would be carried out.

[Kontrik]

In vain the Old Man refused ... On two chairs rarely anyone sat for a long time (there are enough examples) .. They will arrange a maidan there and you can’t sit in the woods anymore ..
And the Russian military base is always a guarantee of stability and protection, both from external, and especially from internal enemies ...
Look Lukashenko, as if you and Yanukovych wouldn’t drink and remember the vodka together, if only, if only ..
This is a serious blow "in the gut" of Russia, and now all sorts of "shitty forces" will start raving ...
Eh brothers, God forbid we quarrel .. It is necessary to decide something else, otherwise the Slavic blood will flow.

[Xenofont]

The open hypocrisy of both Luke and Lavrov: reckoning on idiots who thoughtlessly believe any bossy stuffing. Allies ...

[dik]

Quote: Kontrik

Sp
Only between the lines it is necessary to understand that without our WB becoming a certain buffer zone, in the event of a conflict with neighboring Poland (NATO), the Republic of Belarus risks becoming the foreground on which any more or less active conflict will develop.

And how does the presence of a base prevent Belarus from becoming a pre-field?

[dik]

Quote: Kontrik

In vain
You are not talking about the United States and its allies accidentally mentioned?

It's hard to comment on your fantasies. I did not say a word about the USA

[Tank hard]

Quote: dik

It's hard to comment on your fantasies.

You have a symbol of Belarusian nationalists on your avatar, what can you talk about after that?

[Tank hard]

Quote: Tank Hard

You have a symbol of Belarusian nationalists on your avatar, what can you talk about after that?

By the way, an interesting article about Belarusian nationalists:
[media =https://inance.ru/2018/06/belorusskie-nacionalisty/]

[dik]

Quote: Tank Hard

Quote: dik

It's hard to comment on your fantasies.

You have a symbol of Belarusian nationalists on your avatar, what can you talk about after that?

I do not know. This is your business. What can you talk about, what can’t

[pro100y.belarus]

Yes, all this is nonsense - will there be a base or not. The global financial crisis will "reconcile" everyone.
In Belarus, at least, Russians are not spread rot. My grandchildren go to school in Russian.
But in Ukraine, the Galicians will soon bring all Little Russians to the root. In Galicia, Kharkov and Odessa, Russian military bases will be more important than "Belarusian shrimps".
You’re picking the wrong nose ...

[dik]

Quote: pro100y.belarus

Yes, all this is nonsense - will there be a base or not. ..

Absolutely never mind. In any case, an attack on Belarus = an attack on Russia. Everyone knows this, and the presence / absence of a small contingent of Russian troops on our territory can in no way affect external security.

In my opinion it is so obvious that it makes no sense to discuss exactly

[silver169]

Your naive narrow-mindedness is simply amazing. However, there is nothing surprising, it is not for nothing that they say "as you name a ship, so it will float." This is me about your nickname. Change dik to dick so that no one has doubts about who you are.

[georggy]

Minsk’s refusal to deploy a Russian military base on its territory is just an unpleasant episode

These goat kicks already got everyone and everything.
Annex the territory for the debts of Russia. And post anything. Why babysit.
Love must be mutual.

[1536]

Yes, ally ... while President Comrade A.G. Lukashenko. And what will happen next? Will the Belarusian people be left alone with the brutalized Poland, the decayed Baltic territorial formations and the European Union? And how will the ruling circles of the Belarusian society behave in this case? Or "after me even a flood"? Thus, there are more questions than answers. And the military base in Belarus, for example, all in the same Machulishche, where the SVD air defense base was at one time, if I am not mistaken, would not interfere with both the Russians and the Belarusians. But, apparently, the course of the leadership of Belarus has been taken completely opposite. And will "every fourth of the Belarusians" who fell in the years of the Great Patriotic War in the fight against the fascist evil spirits really be consigned to oblivion, as happened to the fallen soldiers of the Red Army in another neighboring country?

[dik]

Quote: silver169

Who captured the Crimea? How can one capture what has always been his own? RUSSIAN! Calm down, dick! Stop writing nonsense. Go potato pancakes or something, maybe then enlightenment will come in your head.

Is always? Seriously? Crimea hasn’t even been Russian for 200 years, what is “always” talking about?

[dik]

Quote: silver169

Your naive narrow-mindedness is simply amazing. However, there is nothing surprising, it is not for nothing that they say "as you name a ship, so it will float." This is me about your nickname. Change dik to dick so that no one has doubts about who you are.

It's funny to hear reproaches for narrow-mindedness from a person who sincerely believes that Crimea has always been Russian

[Alexga]

“We are not forcing anyone to anything”

- Another difficult country in the post-Soviet space is Belarus. In December, Moscow and Minsk are expected to sign a package of documents on in-depth integration of the economies of the two countries. All this in line with the implementation of the 1999 agreement on the creation of the Union State. But it contains points on joint foreign and defense policy, and we do not observe this now and, apparently, we will not see it in December. Why? After all, Belarus and Crimea did not recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia ...

- We, too, do not 100% share Belarusian foreign policy objectives. This means nothing.

- Belarus refuses to deploy a Russian military base on its territory ...

- This is a really unpleasant episode. But the main thing is not form, but content. And according to the content, the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko repeatedly said, including when answering the question about the base, that Belarus is 100% Russia’s ally and that the Belarusian armed forces should be considered as protecting our common interests and our common territory.

On foreign policy in its purest form, we have a joint action program. We don’t have this with anyone else. This document punctually and pedantically describes the joint steps that we will take.

As for the recognition of Abkhazia, South Ossetia, the situation with the Crimea, we are not forcing anyone into anything.

I know how the quantitative composition of those who recognized the independence of Kosovo was ensured, and we will never behave this way with our neighbors, partners and allies.

- Do not force, because you can not or do not want?

- We are brought up differently. I can’t even imagine a situation in which we would so want to act. As for the "we can" - it is still fraught with the fact that you need to step over your principles.

When they try to blame us for something ... For example, Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevicius suddenly became preoccupied with how negotiations are going on to create a Union State. Allegedly, the further integration of Moscow and Minsk poses a threat to Lithuania, because it will bring Russia closer to the Lithuanian borders. But, firstly, we already have a common border with Lithuania ... But he is a specific person, he has been working for a long time. Not everyone manages to maintain visual acuity and a sense of reality.


Returning to negotiations with Belarus, as both our representatives and representatives of the Belarusian government have repeatedly emphasized, they are in strict accordance with the agreements that were concluded in the 1999 Union Treaty. We are not talking about anything else. There are identified priority goals to which you need to move. The governments of both countries are working hard on behalf of the presidents. The next summit is due to take place in December. Everything that we now observe in the economic blocs of our governments, suggests that they understand the need for additional
tich arrangements.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4103946 И не надо копья ломать!

[Sapsan136]

Lukashenko of Russia is not an ally, he is as duplicitous and rotten as Yanukovych, and the sooner they understand this in the Kremlin, the better!

[Local from the Volga]

The parasite !!!!