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How the US Will Try to Rehabilitate Patriot Systems After Saudi Arabia Fiasco - Two Options

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US officials continue to make excuses in connection with the debacle that befell the Saudi oil production and refining complexes, protected by the American air defense and missile defense system. Pompeo previously stated that “even reliable systems like Patriot work with varying degrees of success.” Now in Washington they note that the air defense systems must be positioned in such a way that the effect of their use is maximum. Thus, we can say that it looks like a stone in the Saudi “garden”.


How the US Will Try to Rehabilitate Patriot Systems After Saudi Arabia Fiasco - Two Options


Groups of those who act as “advocates” of American air defense systems are now also trying to declare that “on the side from which the blow was struck, the Saudi Aramco facilities were less protected”, and the calculations of the same “Patriots” did not reacted because allegedly rockets and drones "did not fly at those objects that they cover." The logic is strange: if the missiles fly, for example, not to Riyadh, then the radars that detected them do not give any signals to other air defense systems, since this is "not their area of ​​responsibility." And other complexes expect an attack "exclusively from the other side."

Given the specifics of the situation, it can be assumed that in order to raise the fallen rating (to rehabilitate) the American air defense-missile defense systems, attempts will be made to discredit other air defense systems. For example, the Russian C-300 and C-400 are the main competitors of Patriot in the world market. What is it like first option.

The most likely direction is Syria, where both of these Russian-made anti-aircraft missile systems are located, with the S-300 air defense systems also being transferred to the Syrian military. According to recent reports, the "Syrian" C-300 deployed in the area of ​​Masyaf. It is possible that the Syrian sites could be hit with subsequent statements from the series: “You see, Russian air defense systems also could not resist the strike.”

The second option:

The American side, whose reputation for air defense systems in recent days has been so shaken that even in Turkey they are frankly delighted with the purchase of C-400, and not Patriot, as air needs rehabilitation.


In this regard, the situation may boil down to an “advertising campaign” when in the same Saudi Arabia the “Patriots” suddenly “intercept” missiles and drones as part of a staged strike. And the American “partners” should not be occupied with the skills and craving for performances - at least by the example of active sponsorship of the productions of the so-called “White Helmets” with the same children who were taken for filming in different provinces of Syria.

By the way, there is no answer yet to the question of whether there was not the first blow - by staging, but with a different purpose: the legitimization of new pressure on Iran, including the possible military, was needed.
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  1. vvvjak
    vvvjak 25 September 2019 16: 10
    +3
    "They don't have the grenade system."
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 25 September 2019 16: 28
      +4
      Groups of those who act as “advocates” of US air defense systems are now also trying to announce that “on the side from which the blow was struck, Saudi Aramco facilities were less protected

      Well reminded))
    2. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 26 September 2019 15: 01
      0
      they were already writing off to the Germans that the responsibility zone there was not a patriot but skyrim or ka him and the Germans like Switzerland doing this anti-aircraft shotgun in the 80s when the UAV and stuff in the USSR weren’t there yet and they weren’t doing the subject Something 100 times larger and higher flying with a warning in advance, but the RCO Patriot doesn’t work below 60m with the curvature of the earth and the fact that the object above the radar is dead umbrellas oh everything. so purely TTX Patriot is innocent but also useless. This is an occasion for the United States to never attack anyone. for a significant blow to f22 is easier to strike than instantly21 with many meanings.
  2. Graz
    Graz 25 September 2019 16: 13
    +8
    In this regard, the situation may boil down to an “advertising campaign” when in the same Saudi Arabia the “Patriots” suddenly “intercept” missiles and drones as part of a staged strike.
    _____________________
    most likely something similar will happen, after which more sanctions are imposed on Iran
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 25 September 2019 16: 34
      +5
      Aerobatics - turn your defeat into victory. Something like that will be.
      1. Evil echo
        Evil echo 26 September 2019 00: 07
        +2
        And they have the whole story. So there is nothing to be surprised.
  3. Krilovchanin
    Krilovchanin 25 September 2019 16: 21
    +5
    Something seems to me that the hype is not raised on that occasion. I think the petriots are still a good system, there just the "friend or foe" system worked out and the air defense quietly let "their" missiles and drones pass ...
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 25 September 2019 16: 41
      +2
      What a friend or stranger on homemade belay
      1. Krilovchanin
        Krilovchanin 25 September 2019 16: 59
        +1
        I beg you ... If there was a planned provocation - they could well have camouflaged a regular ammunition for improvised weapons in a military laboratory ...
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 25 September 2019 17: 10
        -2
        Quote: Popuas
        What a friend or stranger on homemade belay

        So conspiracy theorists have already put forward the theory that the strike on the Saudi oil industry is a staging by the United States and the Saudis themselves with the goal of raising oil prices and legitimizing the bombing of Iran.
        And striking American missiles at Saudi sites. smile
  4. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 25 September 2019 16: 24
    +2
    There may be provocations in Syria against our C-300 systems, as well as a staged performance with downed aircraft in the Saudi Arabian Patriot systems .....
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 September 2019 16: 43
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      that even in Turkey, frankly delighted with the purchase of C-400, not Patriot

      Probably not a ton of tea was drunk for Erdogan laughing
    2. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 26 September 2019 15: 03
      0
      on the wiki I spread the pier saying they shot down 5 in 2,5 years and missed 2,5, they noticed it and ... they immediately remembered that they shot down well, not 2 but 102 missiles were just silent about it for 5 years) 15 times it was flooded that they shot down +100 today today and 5 years they were silent ... of course, it also divides the bans. a swabbing myr after all.
  5. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 25 September 2019 16: 52
    +4
    Washington notes that air defense systems must be positioned in such a way that the effect of their use is maximum

    The next statement will be that in order to maximize the effect of the application, the "terrain" must be formed under the "Patriot".
  6. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 25 September 2019 16: 59
    +5
    It would be good for the Hussites to catch the moment of a staged strike and strike their real one. laughing
  7. Piramidon
    Piramidon 25 September 2019 17: 04
    +8
    Groups of those who act as “advocates” of American air defense systems are now also trying to declare that “on the side from which the blow was struck, the Saudi Aramco facilities were less protected”, and the calculations of the same “Patriots” did not respond because allegedly rockets and drones "did not fly at those objects that they cover."

    I can guess what these groups are called here: "professor", "warrior-uh" and "Zeev Zeev", breast-raising to protect their star-striped patrons
    1. Tzar
      Tzar 25 September 2019 18: 07
      +4
      And the groups "Maki Avelyevich, Aron and Krasnodar" adhere to a different version? ..
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 September 2019 18: 49
    0
    I propose to repeat the raid again, and then we will discuss the results. In the meantime, a little textured material. soldier lol
  9. GibSoN
    GibSoN 25 September 2019 19: 40
    -5
    How the US Will Try to Rehabilitate Patriot Systems After Saudi Arabia Fiasco - Two Options
    No matter how! And there are no options. In addition to the local media of the Russian Federation, no one knows about it at all. They themselves came up with a problem, they dispersed the dust themselves .. In fact, this is the only air defense system that was tested in real combat conditions, including massive attacks, including BMDs, for which the air defense system is not intended to defeat.
    Well, you continue here))
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 25 September 2019 20: 54
      +3
      Quote: GibSoN
      In fact, this is the only air defense system that has been tested in real combat conditions, including massive attacks, including infantry rocket launchers, for which the air defense system is not intended to defeat.
      Well, you continue here))

      Why continue? Admit that the Americans with their air defense pribluda are fucked up. A year ago, the Saudis unanimously fired these Patriots at enemy missiles, but they turned out to be so "domestic" that some of them decided to return "home" by blowing up all the sheds in the area and scaring all the camels so that they forgot how to spit. A month and a half ago, the Houthis destroyed the Patriot complex itself, from the word completely. Around the same time, the Houthis playfully alarmed all the passengers and service staff at the Saudi airport, slightly blowing up its terminals, which went unnoticed by the SA air defense system. Now we are about to attack again, the refinery burned down for hundreds of millions of dollars due to the fact that the vaunted Patriot slept through this attack too. By the way, in favor of the fact that this strike could be a provocation in order to lay the blame on Iran is the fact that the UAVs involved in the attack had to pass in the sector that is blocked by the air defense system of the American military base in Bahrain. If they spotted the targets and did not raise the boil, then this just means that they were aware of where and what was flying. Maybe nothing flew there at all, and the presented wreckage of the UAV was rammed from other objects. If this is conceived by the mattresses themselves, then the worst anti-advertising "Patriot" is hard to come up with, and if by the Saudis themselves, they thereby did the United States a disservice. The truth is embarrassing that the Houthis are taking responsibility ...
  10. sp77ark
    sp77ark 25 September 2019 21: 06
    -4
    The paradoxical situation: "Patriots", who did not shoot at UAVs flying by, but actually shot down a lot of targets - this is complete ... well, you get the idea.
    And the S300, of the same class as the Patriot, has never fired at combat targets, with a radar that can see half a million km away, and has not shot down a single UAV in the area of ​​responsibility of Damascus airport, is an absolute weapon, a miracle of engineering.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 25 September 2019 21: 44
    +1
    It seems that the Americans fell victim to their own allies, who knows who blew up these structures there?
    It’s just that the option was not included in the calculation so that you would have to justify yourself for the American air defense system. Because the system most likely could not see anything, it was most likely overhead charges !!!
    Ordinary mines !!! And then it immediately becomes clear why the air defense system did not work, why there are no images from the satellite, the launch site, and most importantly - the filigree accuracy of hitting objects. The accuracy of hitting a rocket and UAV is affected by movement in different layers, the sun, wind, humidity, but it’s just sniper destruction.
    1. sp77ark
      sp77ark 25 September 2019 22: 05
      0
      And the Hussites said that they stuck mines laughing
    2. asv363
      asv363 26 September 2019 14: 43
      +1
      I agree. On one of the pictures there are four identical structures that were struck with jewelry accuracy - almost at the same height and from the same azimuth. More like installing magnetic mines by industrial climbers / military. And they could stand for years, waiting for a real Hussite attack on the object.
  12. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 26 September 2019 04: 30
    0
    Multi show. Winnie the Pooh is resting - "it was the wrong bees / ugh drones /". Idiocy, I had to ask permission to fly, and they immediately with a "club" !!!
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  14. Polar Bear
    Polar Bear 26 September 2019 20: 01
    0
    I can imagine how shocked all the NATO warriors in Europe are now, who realized that they have practically no air defense.
  15. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 19 October 2019 17: 29
    0
    Now the Saudis need to wait for the "show-staged" strike by the inspected US!