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Again, this terrible Russian special forces!

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Probably, there is no more "hackneyed" topic in specialized military publications than the theme of special forces. If you wish, in open sources you can find so much interesting and so much invented by journalists that breathtaking. The topic periodically arises and disappears just as quickly depending on the next victory or defeat of the special forces of any army in the world. Or when it is simply necessary to convince readers of the impending horror that awaits them literally tomorrow.


Again, this terrible Russian special forces!


Horror on the far reaches of Europe


Now such horror is for some reason necessary on the far reaches of Europe. Although the author has his own opinion on this “for some reason,” he does not have any supporting facts. Therefore, it would be more correct to pretend that this is a phenomenon incomprehensible to anyone.

So, in the Spanish newspaper AB.es, another article was published on the “terrible units” of the world’s armies, entitled: “Fur seals” versus the Russian “special forces”: which of the elite units is the deadliest in the world? For those who want to learn something new about special forces, there is nothing new there, as in this material.

I want to say right away that for Spanish journalists, judging by the text of the article, the topic is "dense", like the South American jungle or the Russian taiga. And the material is more likely to be an advertisement for "fur seals" than at least some attempt to compare the training and capabilities of soldiers of different armies. So, in the aspect stated by the authors, it is generally not worth discussing this article.

You should not compare the capabilities of special units of different countries, as well as special forces in general. Any unit has clearly defined tasks for which it is preparing. Does anyone doubt the capabilities of the Wolfhounds from Alpha? In their ability to conduct anti-terrorist operations or capture (destroy) the RDG of a potential enemy? But the work of this special forces “at zero” or “behind the ribbon” is doubtful. Other skills are needed there.

In the end, what is the training of specialists? This is just a competent selection of candidates. Further, psychophysical training, general physical training and teaching techniques and working skills of a particular unit. In general, the differences appear in the last paragraph. In tactical and special training, if more specifically.

The Spaniards in their article talk in sufficient detail about the admission to the US Navy special forces “Seals”. About what difficulties the selected candidates experience in training. The pinnacle of “terrible preparation” is, according to the authors, “a week in hell”, when fighters work continuously for five days during exercises at the base in Coronado. The usual, in general, survival course in the preparation of specialists.



It is doubtful that these same “seals” will be able to get a maroon beret in the special forces unit of the Russian National Guard. In the same way, how to qualify for some other special forces of our armed forces. Even in their own secret structure Team 6 (Team 6) it will be difficult for them to get into.

By the way, another special unit closed to the public is also mentioned - the Delta Force. The very 1th special operations detachment to carry out "especially delicate tasks." The group is so classified that fighters, even while at military bases in the United States, do not wear uniforms and are represented as civil servants of the United States Army. And the operations of this detachment, which became known in connection with major failures, speak precisely of “delicate” operations, when truly specialists are required. Naturally, the press is silent about victories.

But what about the Russians?


But what about Russian special forces? Who should Europeans be afraid of today? And then everything is covered in darkness of mystery. Naturally, for Europeans from Spain. Especially mysterious are the Special Forces of the GRU and the Special Forces of the FSB. Accordingly, those who can organize many problems for the enemy in a special period, and those who can organize these problems, organized by similar structures of other armies in our territory, can quickly be eliminated.

If you discard beautiful words, nothing is known about Russian special forces. Even though the Internet is full of videos about the operations performed. I will give an example of what exactly is known about Russian special forces, according to the authors of the article. I repeat, do not hope to find at least a grain of new material. Horror only then will be scary if no one can understand its essence.

So, Russian fighters pay great attention to sambo, a wrestling system that is specially created for specifically special forces and is very different from sambo wrestling. Further, fighters are trained using live ammunition and real explosives (which is why in the Russian special forces one of the highest mortality rates in the training process in the world). Special forces may act as part of a unit (8-10 people), as part of a group (2-3 people) and individually.

The biggest failure of Russian special forces in the West is considered the events in Beslan. This refers to the assault by the Alpha fighters on the school seized by the militants. When not only the fighters of the elite unit died, but also a lot of hostages. Total losses - 370 people. By the way, the authors do not talk about other units that would act in such situations and conduct a better operation.

In order to help authors from the ABC to scare fellow citizens with Russian special forces more strongly, I will quote the selection of the GRU Special Forces of the USSR Ministry of Defense, written by former GRU fighters Anatoly Efimovich Taras and Fedor Dmitrievich Zarutsky (“Scout training: GRU special forces system”):

Captain Dmitry Pokramovich, commander of a separate guards intelligence, Hero of the Soviet Union, decided the selection as follows: “After a forty-kilometer crossing, Pokramovich suddenly turned the company into a chain, overcame plowing in a plast form, then followed by a march, then again crawled in a plastic way, and when the scouts in their sweaty eyes floated red and green circles (it seemed another meter - and the spirit was out), then followed a command as sharp as a shot: “Become one line!”
The scouts lined up facing the commander, carried out a roll call in order of numbers and the number called by the last soldier irrevocably meant the list of the company for today. Those who are late and lagging are expelled immediately. Pokramovich did not accept any explanation ...


Will the policy give the answer?


So why again raised the topic of special forces in the Spanish press? Especially so clumsy and superficial. The answer will be given to us by politicians. In almost all European countries, and in Russia, not to mention the United States, the thesis that the world has come to the point where any, even the smallest regional conflict can easily escalate into a world war can be heard today.

Under these conditions, the military began to actively pressure the parliaments and governments of their countries in order to increase the budget of the armed forces. This is where the next “scarecrows” come from. Why Russian special forces? Well, you must agree, to frighten the Spaniards with the sudden appearance of Russians tanks or a breakthrough of the Russian divisions to Madrid is complicated.

And the unknown and terrible special forces for this is quite suitable. Terrible killer monsters capable of destroying the companies and battalions of ordinary infantrymen alone, and taking the capital of the country as part of a company without much difficulty. What could be more convenient in order to frighten the population raised by Hollywood? Russian special forces, similar to aliens from horror films ...

This could finish the material. However historical experience suggests that often large wars start in small and not at all aggressive countries. They begin "out of fear of being conquered." The escalation of fear occurs everywhere. And faith in their own army, especially in European countries, is ever less. Draw conclusions ...
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  1. maw
    maw 25 September 2019 15: 16
    +12
    scare the Spaniards with the sudden appearance of Russian tanks or the breakthrough of Russian divisions to Madrid is difficult.

    But Russian tanks have already been in Madrid. And Mansurov and comrades ... wink The question is whether the Spaniards themselves remember this.
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 25 September 2019 21: 40
      +8
      And when were there Russian tanks? , there were Our-Soviet ....
      1. maw
        maw 25 September 2019 22: 07
        +40
        And I always put an equal sign between Russian and Soviet. Maybe a little pretentious, but I really like the answer of Rasul Gamzatov: "In Dagestan I am Avar, in Russia I am Dagestan, and abroad I am Russian!" Do not add, do not subtract.
        1. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 25 September 2019 22: 16
          +7
          The Soviet, and Rasul Gamzatov was a Soviet writer, had a red banner.
          1. Dimmedroll
            Dimmedroll 29 September 2019 20: 03
            0
            Have you seen the official banner of the Russian Armed Forces.
            1. Vanek
              Vanek 30 September 2019 07: 56
              +1
              Quote: Dimmedroll
              Have you seen the official banner of the Russian Armed Forces.


              SEE !!!!

              At the Reichstag in the 45th.

              hi
    2. tracer
      tracer 26 September 2019 03: 42
      +4
      It seems to me, or is the wife and husband obviously in the first photo?
      Fox Alice and Basilio are hunting for Pinocchio.
    3. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 27 September 2019 09: 49
      0
      The Spaniards, like other Europeans, including those who were born and live in Moscow, remember little, with rare exceptions, those who want to remember and have not lost interest in the life of their country and the world as a whole. On TV, they somehow showed a poll in Moscow. When asked who Lenin was, a twenty-year-old girl replied that this was probably Stalin's son.
  2. WILL
    WILL 25 September 2019 15: 17
    +17
    Russians - They know how, but do not like to fight! And as a rule - ALWAYS WIN! yes
    Let them be afraid, be careful ... otherwise they rake every hundred years ...
    1. Russia
      Russia 25 September 2019 18: 17
      +9
      Greetings, Buddy, hi That is where our Russia stands. smile
  3. Sonmaster
    Sonmaster 25 September 2019 15: 40
    +9
    "Terrible killer monsters, capable of destroying companies and battalions of ordinary infantrymen alone, and taking the capital of the country as part of a company without much difficulty."
    Well be ...
    Two soldiers from the construction battalion - replace the excavator. wassat
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 September 2019 16: 30
      +10
      Quote: Sonmaster
      Two soldiers from the construction battalion - replace the excavator.

      The scariest special forces, Stroybat. They are not even given weapons
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 25 September 2019 17: 49
        +4
        They do not "give", BUT "DO NOT TRUST" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 September 2019 18: 49
          +2
          Quote: sso-250659
          They do not "give", BUT "DO NOT TRUST" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Same shovel, only side view laughing
          But why scream laughing
    2. Strashila
      Strashila 25 September 2019 17: 26
      +5
      if you take them pieces of heels, a crane, a bulldozer and an ice rink.
      1. sso-xnumx
        sso-xnumx 25 September 2019 17: 50
        +1
        They forgot RBU ..... And also BSL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 September 2019 18: 52
          +4
          Quote: sso-250659
          They forgot RBU ..... And also BSL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Well, why so loud about special weapons recourse
        2. vidoogl
          vidoogl 25 September 2019 21: 37
          +3
          The worst division is the KECh company !!!
    3. Evil echo
      Evil echo 26 September 2019 12: 52
      +3
      "Terrible killer monsters, capable of destroying companies and battalions of ordinary infantrymen alone, and taking the capital of the country as part of a company without much difficulty."

      Not so exaggerated of course, but ...
      The Taj Beck Palace was guarded by about 2,5 thousand soldiers.
      From the Soviet side, the special forces of the KGB of the USSR "Zenith" and "Thunder", the "Muslim" battalion, paratroopers of the 345th paratrooper regiment and an anti-tank platoon were involved. The total number of participants in the operation from the Soviet side was about 700 people. The operation was led by KGB Colonel Grigory Boyarinov.
      The assault on the palace began at about seven in the evening and lasted 45 minutes.

      And while not all 700 people took part in the assault. Along the assault itself, the communication nodes, the gene, captured. army headquarters, hadd and mvd.
  4. Boris63
    Boris63 25 September 2019 15: 45
    +5
    Well, yes ... special forces are completely different in purpose. An acquaintance served in Typhoon, so he said that in Chechnya, when they were "thrown" into the trenches, they said you were special forces ... And they are specialists in working in a limited area ...
  5. Shuttle
    Shuttle 25 September 2019 15: 49
    +4
    But what about the Russians?

    The fact that the zakordonniks do not translate the word "specnaz", but pronounce it as it is, already speaks of the mythologization of the Soviet / Russian special forces in the Western mind. In other words, both Europeans and Americans are joking, but there are very few people willing to try.
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 25 September 2019 17: 52
      +1
      Still let them rejoice that they did not reach them ..................
  6. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 25 September 2019 16: 17
    +1
    In almost all European countries, and in Russia, not to mention the United States, the thesis that the world has come to the point where any, even the smallest regional conflict can easily develop into a world war

    Do you yourself believe in what you write?
    Europe is too fat to fight.
    Do not confuse hysteria in the media with real intentions.
    1. tracer
      tracer 25 September 2019 21: 48
      +1
      They starve banderdogs. Himself then why fight? All Balts with Poles.
      1. DimerVladimer
        DimerVladimer 26 September 2019 09: 29
        0
        Quote: tracer
        They starve banderdogs. Himself then why fight? All Balts with Poles.


        Yeah - the Balts are still warriors :)
        In the 40th they launched the Red Army without a fight.
        And now even more so - from the time of the defeat of the Livonian Order are not warriors.
  7. Shtat
    Shtat 25 September 2019 16: 27
    -3
    The National Guard of Russia, what are we ???
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 25 September 2019 17: 12
      -8
      Russian National Guard- what is it ???


      Gendarmerie, Praetorians, Tonton Macoutes - to your liking. I mean the so-called. "Rosguard", which exists due to the notorious "pension reform".
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 25 September 2019 18: 01
        +11
        Gendarmerie, Praetorians, Tonton Macoutes - to your liking. I mean the so-called. "Rosguard", which exists due to the notorious "pension reform".

        Yes Yes. You tell it IN THE FACE to those who fought in the Caucasus, who buried comrades. For people like you and others like you:
        https://plainnews.ru/video-channel-225430.html
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 25 September 2019 20: 51
          +5
          I did not say a word about the people who fought in the Caucasus, I emphasized that I mean only and only a fake new formation - "the national guard". As for speaking to my face, my friends, who passed not only the Caucasus and Afghanistan, but also Bakhmutka, agree with me in many respects, this is for yours "for people like you and your kind." I do not know where you fought, but my friends have enough blood behind them, both foreign and, unfortunately, their own. Only they think with their heads, assessing the situation in our country and do not go out to shout in the square with all sorts of human rights activists and other screamers. hi
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 27 September 2019 01: 34
            +2
            So you are yelling. Only instead of the square did you choose the VO site. You have covered your stupid post with the stench substance of all the former explosives, special forces, riot police. Specifically for the Russian Guard, the head of this structure in the Ural Federal District is my former commander, by the way, Colonel Sultangabeev, who also covered his grenade with his former subordinate. And behind the “false education, the Russian Guard” are living people and their families, people - not a couple to you. I wanted to cut down a plus sign at the Anti-post, say so.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 27 September 2019 19: 54
              +1
              people are not like you. I wanted to cut down a plus sign at the Anti-post, say so.


              You don't even know anything about me, well, thank God, your nickname speaks for itself, mister "police officer".

              And about the "plus sign" - do not judge other people by yourself.
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 27 September 2019 23: 36
                0
                You are Nobody and call you No way, if you judge by nick, this is the first, make yourself a cool specialist, but in fact a dummy. Further, do you have anything against the police? So voice your claims, name, as it should be in your party. Or did you roll around drunk at one time, and shut you up in a detox? There is one puffiness in your comments, but there’s zero sense, which you probably are in life. So to prove something is useless. Sea Cat - they probably controlled the warehouses in the port, but they sold everything from there, but they took you on hot? Do not Cry. And for your worthless posts to you, not only I unsubscribed - take note and shut up.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 28 September 2019 07: 39
                  +1
                  Rare delirium and psychopathy, moreover, implicated in outright rudeness. I sincerely sympathize with people who have to communicate with you "in kind". And in fact, I always believed that hysteria is the prerogative of the "weaker sex", but you dissuaded me, any scandalous woman will not be able to reach your pearls with all her great desire.
                  1. Okolotochny
                    Okolotochny 29 September 2019 20: 41
                    -2
                    For rudeness, read your post for the overseer. In general, he argues with you - you don’t respect yourself, you build yourself into a military intellectual, and at the very manners of a street gopnik. He said a word, they answered you, you are making yourself offended. Like you, if you're a man, then go out on March 27 to the guys who celebrate the holiday and repeat your words. This will not happen, cowardly.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 29 September 2019 21: 59
                      +2
                      However, argue. This is about disrespect. And about the holiday in March, so I celebrate it with the guys from the former Vovans and we have no disagreements.

                      PS / Minus do not forget to put, you have a lot of other arguments.
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 27 September 2019 01: 38
            -1
            And, the bulk of the Rosguard, most are military personnel, units of which participated in the CTO. My stupid post - I already told you. And to be completely honest - go out to the central square of your city on March 27 and shout your chant at the tonton makut into a megaphone.
      2. Russia
        Russia 25 September 2019 18: 24
        +13
        "The National Guard of Russia - what is it ???"
        This is a configuration of fingers clenched in a fist in front of your nose, as well as the calmness of your wife and children while you practice verbiage herewink
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 25 September 2019 20: 06
          +6
          Quote: Rusland
          "The National Guard of Russia - what is it ???"
          This is a configuration of fingers clenched in a fist in front of your nose, as well as the calmness of your wife and children while you practice verbiage herewink

          good
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        2. Catfish
          Catfish 25 September 2019 20: 43
          -3
          This is the configuration of the fingers clenched in a fist in front of your nose.


          Wonderful! A fist, and even with a club clamped in it, is quite impressive. Are there brains there? Or Zolotovskaya "guard" can only drive liberals along the boulevards.
          1. tracer
            tracer 25 September 2019 22: 28
            +2
            Do you miss the club too? As you say with resentment about overclocking liberda. You're a cat, that's why your brains are felines. And "sea", as I understand it, is a galley? Don't worry, the Rosguard cat has brains, but it's very difficult for four-legged ones to understand.
            1. tracer
              tracer 26 September 2019 03: 33
              +7
              And I sincerely ask you the Cat as a person. Stop whining about retirement reform once and everywhere on the site. Well got an honest word.
              1. Evil echo
                Evil echo 26 September 2019 12: 59
                +2
                He is reproached, so chezh not to poke that.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 26 September 2019 13: 32
                  -1
                  He is reproached, so chezh not to poke that.


                  Specify - when, by whom and how much. Otherwise, your performance does not look more serious than a banal Indian bazaar.
                  1. Evil echo
                    Evil echo 26 September 2019 14: 00
                    +1
                    This is not my speech, but a commentary on the post of comrade "Blizzard". And if you are so interested in "when, by whom and how much", then upon receipt you will find out when, and by whom and how much you will see in the statement, upon signing in receipt.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 26 September 2019 14: 13
                      -3
                      Ah ... So it was once someone "consolidated" something to a friend "Trasser". Well, they would say right away, otherwise some kind of ambiguity appeared. laughing
                      1. Evil echo
                        Evil echo 26 September 2019 14: 18
                        +4
                        Is distortion our all? You, I meant you!
            2. Catfish
              Catfish 26 September 2019 14: 06
              -1
              Don't worry cat. Rosguard has brains.


              I don’t worry, because, judging by how famously their commander on food deliveries corrects their family budget, there are brains there, but of a completely definite orientation. laughing

              By the way, about the "galley", you obviously did not do military service, otherwise you would have known the first commandment of the soldier (sailor): "Away from the authorities, closer to the kitchen (galley)."

              And it’s probably useless for you to explain that poking strangers is banal rudeness.

              Well, as for "missing the baton", there are somehow more pressing problems, but you and others like you, without a whip in the master's hand, apparently cannot imagine life. request

              Speaking of sea cats:
              I met such cats underwater on the littoral, they absolutely do not give a damn about everything around.
              1. Evil echo
                Evil echo 26 September 2019 14: 20
                +2
                they don't give a damn about everything around them.

                If you position yourself like that, like "sea cat", then why are you tearing up the causal place like that?
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 26 September 2019 15: 29
                  0
                  Excuse me, I am not an expert for causal places and did not touch your sirloin in any way. Look for the "foe" at a different address. laughing
              2. tracer
                tracer 26 September 2019 14: 49
                +8
                Cat look, we all OR most of the people here served. And I assure you, besides the fleet, there are still a lot of different military people in a different form than black. But this is not very important. The only thing that matters is what kind of message you bring to people on the site. I don’t really like this message of yours and I suspect not only me. You allow yourself to be veiled and not really insult Rosguardia even when you consider it necessary. But I don’t think you have the right to do this. You (and not only you) publicly and groundlessly discredit the state structure of Russia, the purpose of which is to maintain law and order in the country. You may not agree on something, or you may not like it. BUT you are obliged to respect state structures as a citizen of Russia.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 26 September 2019 15: 27
                  -2
                  In our country, there have always, or almost always been, the Internal Troops and they coped well with all the tasks, what was the point in creating a new structure? Only in organizing a personal "guard" ... and nothing more.
                  But I don’t think you have the right to do this.

                  It is your right to consider as you think, I have exactly the same.
                  BUT you are obliged to respect state structures as a citizen of Russia.

                  I must love and respect my homeland. But the homeland and state structures are two different things and there is no need to mix them.
                2. Evil echo
                  Evil echo 26 September 2019 15: 42
                  0
                  And who said that he is a citizen of the Russian Federation?
                  I must love and respect my homeland.
                  He then loves and respects her wassat
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 26 September 2019 23: 16
                    0
                    Do you think that some alternatively gifted people like you and Tracer live in Russia? laughing
                    1. Evil echo
                      Evil echo 26 September 2019 23: 49
                      +4
                      I can answer for myself. I’m not a particularly gifted resident of the Russian Federation. But unlike you, I do not whine in every thread about pension reform and do not insult everyone and everything a hundredfold. Judging by your stuffing, you yourself are white and fluffy, and you yourself go only onto the green road.
        3. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 25 September 2019 21: 50
          +7
          And for what merits the guard. In my understanding, the title of a guardsman must be earned. Remember, the Dumas guardsmen are cordial? Hee hee !!!
          Although: - ,, ... you can't understand Russia with your mind ... '' You also have PO-LI-TSA-III.
          For us, Belarusians, that’s it. Everything is better than insults !!!!
          1. VeteranVSSSR
            VeteranVSSSR 25 September 2019 21: 51
            0
            Yes, but you can’t see the musketeers ....
            1. tracer
              tracer 26 September 2019 03: 29
              +5
              This is you about the adventures of a gang of conspirators led by Dartanyan invented by A. Dumas. So comrade syabr. In fact, this is a gang of criminals and murderers who committed high treason during the most tense relations and the beginning of the WAR BETWEEN ENGLAND AND FRANCE. For this "feat" the reward is the gallows. It was the Cardinal's Guard, led by the famous historical figure who inscribed his name in history, Cardinal Resilier, and stood guard over the interests of France of his fatherland. Learn also to analyze what you read. I asked this question as soon as I read it in my youth. Despite the wonderful Soviet film based on this story. This is how this story should be understood with the Russian mentality. Therefore, they will never understand us.
              1. Ivan MCHPV USSR
                Ivan MCHPV USSR 26 September 2019 08: 39
                +5
                I agree that the title of the guard should be deservedly given! How during the war they gave the rank of guard! Not just like that! why were the internal troops bad?
                1. aleksandroff
                  aleksandroff 26 September 2019 17: 19
                  +5
                  Actually, the Russian Guard is the former internal troops, riot police. what did they not please everyone by renaming? They can also perish for us and perish. Their merits are enormous. Don't downplay them. And this is really a pro both in Chechnya and in libero demonstrations. You look at how they work clearly (although I would like harder). Police in other countries can only envy. And if you are a normal citizen, then their club will not work for you. I believe that these are good guys who protect my wife and three of my children from all kinds of rubbish, and do it perfectly.
            2. Evil echo
              Evil echo 26 September 2019 13: 02
              +5
              Well, yes, if you believe Dumas, then the guardsmen with a cardinal took care of the country, and the musketeers covered the Queen’s plots with reduced social responsibility.
          2. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 27 September 2019 01: 28
            +1
            For policemen - do you get pensions? With our loans, so your number 10, we will figure it out ourselves, without great Litvinians.
    2. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 25 September 2019 17: 53
      -12%
      Means of suppressing the internal opposition - that is - of the people ...................
      1. Russia
        Russia 25 September 2019 18: 42
        +4
        The people are you? Have you been crushed? Or do you moan for the loot that they bring to you, at best, on a silver platter?
        1. Leopold
          Leopold 25 September 2019 19: 39
          +17
          Guys do not bark, there are plenty of third-party enemies and they all want to quarrel YOU. Rosguard is Vova. There is no way without this service.
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 25 September 2019 20: 31
          0
          Normal pop Gapon.
  8. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 25 September 2019 16: 31
    +1
    STROYBAT is the most terrible and terrible special forces, they are not even given weapons, they are tearing everyone like the magazine "Murzilka" smile
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 25 September 2019 17: 55
      +1
      The Murzilka magazine was not circulated in the military construction detachments, called the "construction battalion" !!!
  9. Strashila
    Strashila 25 September 2019 17: 37
    +16
    How is there paraphrasing the film "A Merry Dream, or Laughter Through Tears"?
    Variation of 101 tales:
    GRU special forces look terrible
    Captured the Spaniard unhappy
    And they began to mercilessly beat him,
    And they began to choke and drown it,
    Push mosquito into the swamp,
    Put an ant on a heap,
    To poison him with evil dogs ...
    Feed him rotten crayfish ...
    Then the night fell cold
    Hungry migrants howled
    And the stealth flapped their wings
    And they flooded the LGBT with their feet,
    And the sectarians in the swamp croaked ...
    And the stupid Europeans cried ...
    The Spaniard begged here strangled,
    Bitten by evil dogs
    Intimidated by scary masks ...
    And stupid political tales ...
    Have mercy on me, O Special Forces!
    I will tell you where the bourgeois secret is.
    The legacy of the old woman is buried
    Under the stone ...
    On Pushkin Square!

    Good dreams.
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 25 September 2019 19: 34
      +2


      just a bomb!
    2. dimann27
      dimann27 25 September 2019 20: 05
      -2
      Wow! Che smoked then? Can you advise? wassat
      1. tracer
        tracer 26 September 2019 03: 40
        -4
        Then he blew a strong bambucho campaign. Yes, a haloperodom threw a little. Without this, you can’t give it away.
  10. yehat
    yehat 25 September 2019 17: 44
    +4
    Quote: maw
    whether the Spaniards themselves remember this.

    strangely enough, the Spaniards remember much better than the Poles that the soldiers of the USSR fought with Franco.
    although there is a very large wind in their heads.
  11. tarabar
    tarabar 25 September 2019 17: 55
    +1
    The escalation of fear occurs everywhere. And faith in their own army, especially in European countries, is ever less.

    All right, against the background of excessive self-confidence and a sense of racial superiority, confidence in one's own army can have very unpleasant continuations. So let the itch at the fifth point be balanced by a slight uncertainty in their army, and the fact that they so believe in our army and our special forces is to their advantage - they will be more whole.
  12. energoteknolog
    energoteknolog 25 September 2019 20: 47
    +2
    As children. Who is stronger, a whale or an elephant?
  13. Doliva63
    Doliva63 25 September 2019 21: 24
    +1
    What to talk about special forces to people who, I hope, will never see him laughing
  14. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 26 September 2019 00: 33
    0
    You Alexander Staver write:
    However, historical experience suggests that often large wars begin in small and not at all aggressive countries.

    —- I think that this is possibly true in the era of alliances and mobility .... however, I cannot recall more than a few modern cases, with the exception of the wars of Israel and the Arab World.
    —- Moreover, the preventive attacks of Israel introduce it to the rank of aggressors, and Israel is an aggressive country. Perhaps the conflicts of India and Pakistan ... but I don’t remember the small and non-aggressive instigators of big wars in the post-WWII era.
    -Interest in special forces is an anthropological interest in general, it is an interest in crystallized courage, patriotism, skills, endurance and strength. This is the modern equivalent of the knighthood of “cloak and dagger” in which there is always a place for Rome, and Jerusalem, and the Holy Sepulcher, indulgences, cunning and cruelty.
    —- This is such an eternal theme as female beauty, seduction, love, infidelity, betrayal and betrayal.
    1. domokl
      26 September 2019 10: 30
      +2
      Just the last world war was a long time ago. And about alliances ... And there were times after the tribal system, when there were no alliances? Exactly the same can be said about mobility. I’m wondering where will this mobility be two hours after the start of the mess? It takes a lot of time and money to transport a part or a compound. Will the enemy allow trains to roll out and transport aircraft to fly?
      By the way, you did not give a bad example with Pakistan and India. If the Indians strongly squeeze Pakistan, then the probability of using nuclear weapons approaches 100%. What is not a beautiful beginning of the war? The same story will be with Israel. As long as the Jews are superior, everything is fine. But with the real danger of the destruction of the state, nuclear weapons will be applied without fail.
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    1. SNEAKY
      SNEAKY 26 September 2019 06: 38
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      As I noticed out of the corner of my eye in the military registration and enlistment office, I went to the special forces immediately, although I asked for the army myself. As a result, I asked for it. Being a simple carrier of the 66th in the Tochki division, they ran around 24 km of tudy-syudy to shoot except daily 12.
      The sensations are indescribable. Remove the bloody footcloths from the skin by wiping the piece of iron with oil ... something else.
      He painted it literary, but as it was. Special friends wrote to them it was easier. I wanted to come back, though they reformed everything soldier
  16. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 26 September 2019 07: 58
    0
    Is the photo really Russian special forces?
  17. Aldmit_2
    Aldmit_2 26 September 2019 08: 04
    -3
    Enemy RDG? Write already then the GDR of the enemy.
  18. shinobi
    shinobi 26 September 2019 08: 21
    0
    They are not afraid of special forces, there are just not very many of them and they solve very narrow tasks, but the airborne assault brigades of our Airborne Forces, which were a "secret" in the USSR and for some reason it is not customary to talk about them now. from an anecdote, in the structure of the Airborne Forces they are not, as it were, but they are.
    1. domokl
      26 September 2019 10: 36
      0
      Quote: shinobi
      Units that were "secret" in the USSR

      Why did you decide this is a secret? In the USSR, JBBs were never assigned to the Airborne Forces, although they often wore the form of the Airborne Forces. Yes, there were no special secrets. Infantry landing by helicopter landing method at a range of up to 100, sometimes up to 150 km ...
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 5 October 2019 09: 59
        0
        The word secret is enclosed in quotation marks. They wore airborne uniforms, trained in airborne training manuals but didn’t belong, what secrets are there. The part I got into didn’t exist at all, and I’m composing science fiction about it.
  19. Maxim Guzevatov
    Maxim Guzevatov 26 September 2019 08: 42
    +2
    You tell the families of the dead soldiers in Syria about the dubious work of Alpha abroad. there Alpha’s losses are not one, not two, and not even 3 fighters already
    1. domokl
      26 September 2019 10: 40
      +1
      And where is the loss? Alpha Counter-Terrorism Unit. And go about their business. At the front line they have nothing to do. We played such games in the Chechen. Selected specialists under the bullets were thrown into the trenches.
      1. Maxim Guzevatov
        Maxim Guzevatov 27 September 2019 08: 02
        0
        counter-terrorism inside the Russian Federation, what did it do in Syria?
        1. domokl
          27 September 2019 11: 46
          0
          Quote: Maxim Guzevatov
          counter-terrorism inside the Russian Federation, what did it do in Syria?

          Where did you see my "inside the RF"? They are specialists in the fight against terrorism. Outside of a specific country. You twist very ugly ... According to school ...
          1. Maxim Guzevatov
            Maxim Guzevatov 27 September 2019 11: 51
            0
            learn where this or that unit should be involved
            1. Evil echo
              Evil echo 28 September 2019 00: 37
              +1
              Tell me the sources, otherwise I don’t enter the room with plans, where and how to use this or that unit.
    2. Evil echo
      Evil echo 26 September 2019 13: 37
      0
      take a shovel for more, throw a handy
      1. Maxim Guzevatov
        Maxim Guzevatov 27 September 2019 08: 02
        0
        Tymchuk, log in
        1. Evil echo
          Evil echo 28 September 2019 00: 33
          0
          Too shy to ask, is that me? So I didn’t even stand next to Comrade Tymchuk, you were mistaken, it happens.
    3. shinobi
      shinobi 5 October 2019 10: 11
      0
      -In order to be combat-ready, the army must fight .-
      K.F. Clausewitz
      And this must be done on an ongoing basis in various kinds of minor conflicts. As the Yankees do. Russia under the kings in the Caucasus, now in Syria, cultivating the pros to the bone. And yes, there is no war without losses.
  20. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 26 September 2019 15: 41
    0
    Yeah, in 1945 they had already freed the geyrope from fascism, and now, by defining their geyro-parliament, they themselves turn out to be fascists, they did not have to free these creatures, and wait until Hitler burned everyone in gas chambers
  21. Bash
    Bash 27 September 2019 10: 38
    +2
    How long will the evil Russian Ivana be a nightmare for the subtle emotional organization of American cats !?
  22. Earnest
    Earnest 28 September 2019 17: 13
    0
    Quote: Sea Cat
    In our country, there have always, or almost always been, the Internal Troops and they coped well with all the tasks, what was the point in creating a new structure? Only in organizing a personal "guard" ... and only ...

    You see, your judgment is very one-sided. And what do you know that in all the reviews of various foreign media, a special emphasis has always been placed on the fact that Russia is the only country in the world where there are special troops for war with its people inside the country? Are they, they say, called - "Internal"? And even though they have a stake on their heads, they are poking at various gendarmerie, carabinieri, etc., performing exactly the same functions in the countries of the light elves. This is where the legs of our renaming grow. The police - to the police (find out why, please!), The internal troops - to the National Guard, etc.
  23. Oleg Cheb
    Oleg Cheb 29 September 2019 18: 48
    0
    But will the Russian "elite" of many thousands allow to deliver a crushing blow with the Russian miracle weapon to the territories of Russia's geopolitical enemies ?! After all, it's not a secret for anyone that it is there, in the supportive (towards them) "civilized west" that all the national wealth of the country that they have brought out over 30 years of domination in Russia are located! Their families prosper there. They learn and have fun, multiply and do profitable business. Therefore, their reaction to a good intention to strike a striking blow on the territory of a bloodsucker, aggressor and enemy of Russia is easy to foresee! Will the "elite" of collaborationists really allow events to develop according to such a scenario ?! And with what will they then remain in ruined and alien to them Russia, with bows of St. George ribbons on the chest? And they need it, without countless riches, undoubtedly "acquired by hard and honest labor" in Russia, but stored in the "west" ?!

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  24. Andrei Maksimenko
    Andrei Maksimenko 23 December 2019 00: 59
    +1
    I read this kind of propaganda very often. Not the presence of nuclear weapons, not the presence of such brave "Russian" guys did not save the USSR from defeat in the Cold War, from destruction. In which more than one American soldier was not injured. These guys themselves took and destroyed the USSR. They took away the power and property from the people, and handed it over to the bourgeoisie and the Americans. But it's real. Refusal to participate in the war, which led the country to the loss of territorial, economic, political positions, is the actual defeat in the war. Real surrender. With such defenders, enemies are not needed. What is the use of them. In addition, at present, only according to official data, the Russian treasury is being stolen at a rate of 17 million rubles per hour. Russia does not receive money from the sale of its natural resources outside its borders. Who will protect Russia from this threat ??? Where are these defenders rummaging ??? It is not their business to protect Russia from all sorts of threats ???? There is no need to expect protection from these defenders of Russia. What is the use of these defenders of Russia itself at the present time ???? Another cheap PR.