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NASA's contract for the construction of lunar ships received Lockheed Martin

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Lockheed Martin received a NASA contract for the construction of six to 12 Orion manned spacecraft, which will be used to launch to the moon. This was announced by NASA Director James Brydenstein on his Twitter page.


NASA's contract for the construction of lunar ships received Lockheed Martin


The United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has contracted Lockheed Martin for the construction of manned spacecraft for lunar missions. According to the agreement, the company is obliged to supply NASA with a minimum of six or a maximum of twelve manned ships in the period until September 30 2030 year.

Today we provided Lockheed Martin with a contract for a production line that will provide 12 missions. This is a milestone in the implementation of the Artemis program, which provides for the landing of the first woman and the next man on the moon by 2024

- said Brydenstein.

Earlier it was reported that NASA has launched a new lunar program called Artemis. The program provides for three phases: an unmanned flight in the second half of the 2020 of the Orion spacecraft mounted on the heavy rocket Space Launch System (SLS) around the Moon and its return to Earth, the moon will fly around the moon with a crew aboard in 2022 and in 2024, astronauts are scheduled to land in surface of the moon.

US President Donald Trump previously announced the acceleration of the lunar program of the United States and the allocation of additional funds for it.

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  1. WILL
    WILL 24 September 2019 11: 09
    +4
    Getting a contract is already serious!
    Rogozin also promised to build a superheavy rocket and a base on the moon.
    Let’s take a look ... what will come of it all.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 24 September 2019 11: 11
      +15
      Artemis program, providing for the landing of the first woman and another man on the moon by 2024 year

      The program is outdated since it infringes on the rights of transgender people smile
      1. loki565
        loki565 24 September 2019 11: 32
        +5
        If you follow the logic of Hollywood, it will be a black gay feminist)))
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 24 September 2019 12: 26
        +2
        Everything is very ambitious. The following year, they gathered to fly to the moon (even in unmanned mode), but there is no mention of a launch vehicle (SLS). request On the other hand, this rocket is being designed according to old practices, the first stage marching engine and side boosters will be taken from the Shuttle, the second stage marching engine has been “run-in” on the Delta, Titan and Atlas. But on the third hand, the Americans are not designing a cart with bells, but fellow which at the DOE ready will carry 95 - 130 tons! fellow And there were only two such missiles in the history of rocket science - Saturn-5 and Energy. In a word, there will be no flight (in my opinion, of course) of Orion to the Moon next year! negative
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 24 September 2019 12: 53
          +3
          There is a launch vehicle and it is already being assembled, not prototypes for bench testing, but a flight copy for this flight.

          Here literally the other day was.
          https://topwar.ru/162686-v-ssha-sobrali-pervuju-stupen-rakety-nositelja-dlja-poletov-na-lunu.html
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 24 September 2019 13: 21
            +3
            Quote: donavi49
            There is a launch vehicle and it is already being assembled, not prototypes for bench testing, but a flight specimen

            RN is - this is when the rocket made at least one partially successful flight. And before that, it’s scrap so far. Have you heard anything about the hydrogen club? It is technologically more prestigious than nuclear! So, note that the engines of the first and second stages of this rocket are hydrogen, which is terribly volatile and for which, from a technical point of view, a very complex rocket body must be designed. I assure you that not everything is as simple as with cowboy arrogance fool Americans report about it! However, time will tell which of us is right. hi
            1. donavi49
              donavi49 24 September 2019 13: 29
              0
              Well, here they are assembling a rocket for the first flight (Artemis1) right now. And according to the plan, they fly next year.

              That is, they are at the stage of assembly of the flight copy of the rocket. Having passed the test stages at the stands.

              As for the hydrogen club - so the Americans are the owners there, the USSR caught up, and then died. They plan to return in the 24-25 years.

              Now they are making a methane club - Bezos and Mask are already at the booth stage, the Chinese are at the stage of intense activity by the 21 year in flight, Rogozin also puts this as a priority for Kazakhstan - but so far only in 3 models and prospectuses.
              1. slipped
                slipped 24 September 2019 16: 42
                +1
                Quote: donavi49
                Now they are making a methane club - Bezos and Mask are already at the booth stage, the Chinese are at the stage of intense activity by the 21 year in flight, Rogozin also puts this as a priority for Kazakhstan - but so far only in 3 models and prospectuses.


                This is a "3D model and a prospect" recently burned at the stand



                And before that, and this

        2. Topgun
          Topgun 24 September 2019 16: 05
          0
          and who said that Orion will fly the first flight around the moon to SLS?
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 24 September 2019 16: 33
            +1
            Quote: Topgun
            and who said that Orion will fly the first flight around the moon to SLS?

            The article is written! Or is another super-heavy being developed in America?
            1. Topgun
              Topgun 24 September 2019 19: 22
              0
              I don’t really follow, but in some kind of vidos I saw that before the SLS are made it flies on the Delta (is there enough of it for the moon overflight?)
              need to google, watch, count, but I'm too lazy :)
            2. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 24 September 2019 20: 20
              0
              They are developing a BFR, plus NASA was considering launching at Falcon Heavy. But Congress requires SLS
      3. orionvitt
        orionvitt 24 September 2019 14: 57
        -5
        The rights of all are infringed. They wanted to say about visiting the moon, not the first woman, but the first people.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 24 September 2019 11: 12
      +3
      The contract for serial production, not development. Important point
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 24 September 2019 11: 25
        0
        If everything is worked out, then 12 missiles in 10 years are not the most shocking production regime for Lockheed. But the application is serious and the money, it seems, is huge ..
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 24 September 2019 13: 24
          +2
          This is an order for ships, not missiles. Rockets separately
      2. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 24 September 2019 12: 24
        -9
        Why be smart? Build the good old Apollo that Armstrong flew !!! After all, he has already "flown" to the moon so many times !!!! laughing
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 24 September 2019 13: 24
          -1
          Why, when a new, more advanced ship is already developed and assembled?
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 24 September 2019 18: 37
            -3
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Why, when a new, more advanced ship is already developed and assembled?

            And have you managed to conduct LCI? Tell us more about the flights of this ship.
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 24 September 2019 20: 24
              0
              Yes LCI has passed and have already flown into orbit
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 24 September 2019 20: 30
                -1
                Quote: BlackMokona
                Yes LCI has passed and have already flown into orbit

                You can give a link, where can I find out about this achievement?
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 25 September 2019 08: 06
                  0
                  https://m.lenta.ru/articles/2014/12/05/orion/
                  Test launch of Orion reusable spacecraft in the USA
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 25 September 2019 11: 24
                    -1
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    https://m.lenta.ru/articles/2014/12/05/orion/

                    You apparently have not fully studied the material on "Delta-4", because as the Americans testify (I take material from Wikipedia, immediately specifying this):
                    In 2015, ULA decided to abandon all modifications of Delta IV, in addition to Heavy, by 2018 due to competition with SpaceX (launches will be carried out by the Atlas V booster rocket), and further it is expected that Atlas V and Delta IV will be completely decommissioned, they will be replaced by the new Vulcan booster [5], the first launch of which is planned no earlier than 2019[6]. However, as Tori Bruno assured ULA CEO, a launch vehicle cannot be completely abandoned before government customers are ready for it, as some satellites are specifically configured to launch on Delta IV.
                    Beginning in July 2015 and until the launch vehicle is decommissioned, all launched configurations of the Delta IV launch vehicle will use the improved RS-68A main engine [7].

                    So what will Orion fly on if the first launch of a new rocket is planned for 2019?
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 25 September 2019 15: 46
                      0
                      On the SLS. They have a whole army of missiles in development from different companies. And yes, Delta-4 Heavy will continue to be produced until 2021, as I recall
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 25 September 2019 20: 37
                        -1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        On the SLS. They have a whole army of missiles in development from different companies. And yes, Delta-4 Heavy will continue to be produced until 2021, as I recall

                        In any case, the full-fledged LCI Delta-4 with a crew in a three-stage rocket did not reach the point - i.e. there’s nothing to talk about yet. Or is it not so?
                      2. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 25 September 2019 22: 32
                        +1
                        Well, LCI is before a manned flight. Then operation
                      3. ccsr
                        ccsr 26 September 2019 09: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        Well, LCI is before a manned flight. Then operation

                        Actually, in my time, the "Almaz" LKI with the crew was practiced before deciding on its future fate. And without the participation of the crew in the LKI, there could be no talk about the fate of the station. So I think the Americans only tested the layout, and no more.
                      4. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 26 September 2019 10: 51
                        0
                        This is already decided by the customer, and he really does not want to risk people on the tests and wants a finished ship.
                      5. ccsr
                        ccsr 26 September 2019 11: 47
                        -1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        This is already decided by the customer, and he really does not want to risk people on the tests and wants a finished ship.

                        Then, returning to the original information, no full-fledged trials of Delta-4 with Orion in nature existed, and the information that appeared only gave the wish for the valid, when the next stage of the tests was given out almost as a success for all programs. At least I take it that way.
                      6. Blackmokona
                        Blackmokona 26 September 2019 13: 06
                        0
                        Well, after an unmanned flight, you need to conduct an analysis of telemetry, and other matters. Plus, they didn’t allocate money for the program of flying to the Moon or Mars, so there is nowhere to fly with people. And for the ISS Orion is redundant
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 September 2019 14: 30
          +1
          Here, by the way, is for you. NASA Orbiter took new pictures.
          In the rays of the sun, the Apollo lander module glistens, well, all sorts of traces of people, appliances and garbage (empty wrappers around).
          1. Letun
            Letun 24 September 2019 14: 51
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Here, by the way, is for you. NASA Orbiter took new pictures.

            They will object to you that the NASA Orbiter, and of course take a picture of whatever you like. The truth is why Russia does not do and does not launch vehicles to the moon, for twenty years already, they have silently kept silent.
            1. Greg Miller
              Greg Miller 24 September 2019 15: 27
              +2
              Why keep silent? Russia does nothing and doesn’t launch anything to the moon because it doesn’t build more aircraft carriers, missile cruisers and much more. Because the Tushinsky Machine-Building Plant and the Molniya NGOs have already disappeared in Russia, effective managers have already launched NGOs to them along their way. Khrunicheva ...
              1. slipped
                slipped 24 September 2019 19: 54
                0
                Quote: Greg Miller
                Why keep silent? Russia does not do and does not launch anything to the moon because


                The answer is simple - in the 70s so much material was collected on the moon that they raked it for 25 years.

                To understand the magnitude of the exploration of the moon at that time, I give one example:

                2019 year - Yutu-2 - 9 months - traveled ~ 300 meters
                1971 year - Lunokhod-1 - ~ 10 months - traveled 10 km 540 meters

                As they say - feel the difference. laughing
          2. Proxima
            Proxima 24 September 2019 14: 51
            +2
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Here, by the way, is for you. NASA Orbiter took new pictures.
            In the sun shines the lander of Apollo ...

            Dear Warrior! You can’t prove anything to this lunar conspiracy god! They at least s..you see, all of God's dew. I recently stumbled upon another community, a club of landowners who claim that The earth is flat belay , but about the sphericity of our planet, Masonic conspirators have powdered our brains! There are many "proofs" on this issue. And recently in London, world congress of land plowers drinks good ! And again - new "irrefutable evidence" !!! Like this! And you are here with your pictures from Orbiter ... request
          3. Glory1974
            Glory1974 24 September 2019 15: 14
            +1
            Apollo lander glistens in the sun

            So what? I’ll now find a photo of the landing module that our Navy caught in the ocean. What is this talking about?
            This only suggests that some people believe that they flew, while others believe that they did not fly. There is plenty of evidence in both versions.
          4. ccsr
            ccsr 24 September 2019 18: 39
            -4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Here, by the way, is for you. NASA Orbiter took new pictures.

            Can you imagine other pictures taken not by NASA? And then, as it turned out, NASA recognized that some pictures of the first flights to the moon were made in terrestrial conditions.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 24 September 2019 18: 41
              +2
              "the first flights to the moon were made in terrestrial conditions" ///
              -----
              Not flights, but astronaut training before flying.
              Of course, they trained on Earth.

              There are pictures of Japanese and Indian probes. But NASA's quality is better.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 24 September 2019 18: 57
                -2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Not flights, but astronaut training before flying.

                You are not in the subject - it is precisely some previously published photographs that the Americans presented in the catalog that were subsequently recognized as being taken not during the flight, but on Earth.
                Quote: voyaka uh
                There are pictures of Japanese and Indian probes. But NASA's quality is better.

                Just Japanese images can not clearly prove that this was the landing site.
                And they reported this earlier:
                The Japanese did not find traces of Americans on the moon
                1 May 2009 in 9: 40
                A new reason to think recently gave the Japanese. Their automatic probe "Kaguya" photographed from a small height of the landing site of the missions "Apollo 15" (1971) and "Apollo 17" (1972). There should have been plenty of equipment left. Including “self-runaway” crews on which astronauts rode on the surface of our satellite. But nothing of the kind is visible. There is not even a hint.

                https://www.kp.ru/daily/24287.4/481780/
                1. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 24 September 2019 19: 04
                  +3
                  NASA innocently dumped thousands of photos of the Apollo missions.
                  The pile of photos of training on the ground, which caused such a stir. There are pictures and ascents from the moon and descents to the moon, then from the orbital module, then from the descent, then from the return.
                  Against the background of the moon, the earth, them together ...

                  There are pictures of them with traces of rover tires. Their probe flew above the American. The quality is worse.
                  The American, by the way, has been shooting everything for 10 years now. He perfectly took a picture of both the Soviet Lunokhod and three automatic Luna stations. From the same height and the same camera as the Apollo.
                  And everything looks exactly the same.
                  Also conspiracy?
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 24 September 2019 19: 07
                    -5
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    And everything looks exactly the same.
                    Also conspiracy?

                    I do not want to go into details, but this is not proof that the American astronauts were on the moon. If we managed to land our Lunokhods, then the Americans could land their equipment without landing astronauts.
                    1. voyaka uh
                      voyaka uh 24 September 2019 19: 13
                      +1
                      There is not the slightest photo evidence and the flight of Yuri Gagarin. But everyone (including me!) Is sure that his great mission is pure truth. drinks
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 24 September 2019 20: 08
                        -1
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        There is not the slightest photo evidence and the flight of Yuri Gagarin.

                        Gagarin’s flight was repeated by more than a hundred cosmonauts - this is the best evidence of his flight. Even after fifty years, Americans cannot repeat the landing on the moon, and therefore they are developing a lunar program according to a new one. Any literate person will immediately understand that if civilization does not know how to repeat previously achieved at a lower cost, then society is degrading.
        3. Letun
          Letun 24 September 2019 14: 46
          +6
          Quote: Greg Miller
          Why be smart? Build the good old Apollo that Armstrong flew !!! After all, he has already "flown" to the moon so many times !!!!

          Oh, there isn’t enough experts like you in Lockheed Martin! They, fools, are sure that the USA has already landed astronauts on the moon. But you won’t be fooled! There is radiation and there are no Russian toilets! Oh, what minds disappear on the sofas!
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 24 September 2019 15: 46
            +1
            Quote: Letun
            Oh, what minds disappear on the sofas!

            That's right! crying
        4. orionvitt
          orionvitt 24 September 2019 15: 01
          -3
          Let's say not an Apollo, but a super duper rocket with F-1 engines, which no one has seen. Except in the museum. Where is it all?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 24 September 2019 18: 46
            0
            The take-off of each rocket was observed by thousands of ordinary people who came to the Florida spaceport in advance. Their launches were not secret and were broadcast live. Amateur videos can not be counted.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 25 September 2019 11: 36
              -1
              Quote: voyaka uh
              The take-off of each rocket was observed by thousands of ordinary people who came to the Florida spaceport in advance.

              This does not prove that the astronaut’s foot set foot on the moon, and this is obvious to any literate person.
              D. Copperfield flies around the hall, proving to everyone that the phenomenon of levitation exists in nature. I think this is awesome "proof" that anyone can do it and fly like him - for example, you can prove it by stepping from the window sill of your apartment onto the street. Then tell us about your experiment - you can invite hundreds of viewers to it, what would be like in Florida.
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 25 September 2019 12: 00
                0
                "and this is obvious to any literate person." ////
                -----
                This is the second time you write: "to any literate person."
                Meanwhile, it is obvious to any literate person that photographs of the lunar surface, regularly sent for 10 years by the LRO Lunar Probe, are genuine.
                THE WHOLE lunar surface, not just the landing sites of the Soviet stations Luna, Lunokhod or Apollo. If you do not admit this, then you do not fall into the category of "literate people". sad

                And to any literate person it is clear that if the photo is genuine, not Photoshop, then the unusual horizontal strip on the surface of the Moon is a chain of human tracks. Comrade Armstrong from Apollo 11 smile
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 25 September 2019 12: 14
                  -1
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Meanwhile, it is obvious to any literate person that photographs of the lunar surface, regularly sent for 10 years by the LRO Lunar Probe, are genuine.

                  Who owns this device, and how do these pictures prove that the foot of the American astronaut stepped on the moon?
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  If you do not admit this, then you do not fall into the category of "literate people".

                  I will not bother you much, but in the sixties, when we still did not have satellites with infrared technology, the Americans deceived us strongly with false airfields based on technology, on which we had to launch nuclear strikes and which were recorded on our satellite images. So I don’t need to tell me what the enemy’s misinformation is, the means by which the Americans possessed it long before flying to the Moon — for example, it was widely used in the Second World War. From here and draw conclusions.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 25 September 2019 22: 43
                    -1
                    "and how these images prove that the leg of an American astronaut
                    walked on the moon? "////
                    -----
                    This image captures a chain of human footprints.
                    This is direct, frontal evidence.
                    If you think this picture is fake, then automatically and
                    all other pictures of this probe are fakes.
                    It revolves around the moon for 10 years, gradually moving, and
                    takes pictures all in a row, with the same camera and from the same height.
                    Tens of thousands of shots.
                    Now is the 21st century, and the intervention of Photoshop and all retouching is automatic
                    software programs pinpoint clearly and immediately. No one has ever blamed these
                    pictures staged. The only accusation: "shallow, hard to see."
                    But the satellite resolution is larger than 50 m on the moon, no one has done.
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 26 September 2019 10: 00
                      -1
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      This image captures a chain of human footprints.
                      This is direct, frontal evidence.

                      When the Chinese or our pictures prove it, then I will believe it. In the meantime, I have no reason to believe the Americans.
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      If you think this picture is fake,

                      And I claimed that the Americans are capable of exposing fake pictures. A simple question - which of the stations independent of the Americans received the transmission of these images to Earth? I'm not talking about the fact that a bunch of digital photos could be written to disk even on Earth, placed in a probe, and periodically thrown off as evidence of an American landing.
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      Now is the 21st century, and the intervention of Photoshop and all retouching is automatic
                      software programs pinpoint clearly and immediately.

                      That's because now the 21st century, Americans in every possible way postpone the second landing on the moon, because Now they’ll be caught immediately on a scam. I think that the Chinese will eventually organize the landing of their astronauts on the moon, and then much will become clear, as well as whether the Americans have set foot on it.
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      But the satellite resolution is larger than 50 m on the moon, no one has done.

                      With this permission, you won’t see any traces either of the landing platform. How then did the Americans see the tracks?
                      1. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 26 September 2019 10: 11
                        0
                        It’s clear with you. It was curious to talk. hi
                      2. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 26 September 2019 10: 35
                        0
                        I will give you, for a snack, another vile NASA fake laughing These liars claim that in this picture the Soviet Lunokhod! With wheel marks.
                        Literate people understand that this is a golem deception. The probe is American - all photoshop. That's when the Russian probe takes a picture of the Lunokhod, we will believe that the Lunokhod once rode on the Moon laughing
    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 24 September 2019 12: 00
      +4
      13 May 2019 in 20: 00
      The production of the hull of the Federation spaceship has begun
      https://habr.com/ru/post/451646/
    4. Lbt21
      Lbt21 24 September 2019 12: 05
      -6
      Line up for trampolines. So we have a better chance of getting to the moon)))))
    5. donavi49
      donavi49 24 September 2019 12: 58
      +1
      Rogozin is now awake and promoting LNG. They said no need. Mask charlatan, Bezos with fat rage - methane will be promising in a hundred years, when gas stations on other planets open.

      Now the MAIN TREND OF THE ROCKETSTROKE.


      As a result, from such a swing - Bezos already has an LNG engine at the stand. Mask jumps on a flight stand and will fly soon. Our need to catch up and overtake - in a recently not yet interesting topic.

      About the Moon - 30.
      28 year - LunaGrunt was announced, well, let's see if the schedule is maintained.
      30 year - the landing of man.

    6. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
      0
      Getting a contract is already serious!


      Well, Lockheed will set them up! F-35, too, seems to fly, and, almost, not expensive smile
  2. anjey
    anjey 24 September 2019 11: 13
    +3
    and in 2024, astronauts are scheduled to land on the lunar surface.
    US President Donald Trump previously announced the acceleration of the lunar program of the United States and the allocation of additional funds for it.
    I don’t believe in the "American lunar mission", and it doesn’t look like Trump, he seems to know how to count money and then throws money into Space, populism of pure water, but okay, in 4-5 years we will see laughing And there, Trump will lose his distance and who needs money will be washed away, received by pullback from Lockheed Martin laughingYes, and Lockheed will not lose, the order is for the state. laughing ..
    1. parma
      parma 24 September 2019 11: 27
      +5
      Quote: anjey
      and in 2024, astronauts are scheduled to land on the lunar surface.
      US President Donald Trump previously announced the acceleration of the lunar program of the United States and the allocation of additional funds for it.
      I don’t believe in the "American lunar mission", and it doesn’t look like Trump, he seems to know how to count money and then throws money into Space, populism of pure water, but okay, in 4-5 years we will see laughing And there, Trump will lose his distance and who needs money will be washed away, received by pullback from Lockheed Martin laughingYes, and Lockheed will not lose, the order is for the state. laughing ..

      Over the past 5 years, NASA has been making (seven-league) steps for the development of astronautics, but Roskosmos so far only issues pearls about trampolines ....
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 24 September 2019 11: 37
        +2
        Quote: parma
        Quote: anjey
        and in 2024, astronauts are scheduled to land on the lunar surface.
        US President Donald Trump previously announced the acceleration of the lunar program of the United States and the allocation of additional funds for it.
        I don’t believe in the "American lunar mission", and it doesn’t look like Trump, he seems to know how to count money and then throws money into Space, populism of pure water, but okay, in 4-5 years we will see laughing And there, Trump will lose his distance and who needs money will be washed away, received by pullback from Lockheed Martin laughingYes, and Lockheed will not lose, the order is for the state. laughing ..

        Over the past 5 years, NASA has been making (seven-league) steps for the development of astronautics, but Roskosmos so far only issues pearls about trampolines ....


        We are preparing to populate Mars on relaxation.
        1. Lbt21
          Lbt21 24 September 2019 12: 06
          -1
          Building a mega trampoline?)))
        2. Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat 24 September 2019 17: 04
          0
          We are preparing to populate Mars on relaxation.

          Gee. There is such a fantastic TV series "Space" (by the way, very good), so there, in the background on which the events take place, is that the Russians, tired of raids by "partners" and after a series of bloody conflicts with them, piled on ... Mars and are trying to terraform him. However, "partners" and there they are not left alone, they are brought down with provocations for a new war ...
          1. Arbagast
            Arbagast 25 September 2019 14: 29
            0
            Quote: Monster_Fat
            the fantastic TV series "Space" (by the way, very good), so there, in the background on which the events take place, is that the Russians, tired of raids by "partners" and after a series of bloody conflicts with them, piled on ... Mars
            Thanks for the tip, but where did you get the idea that the "Martians" are Russians request ?! How many looked, did not notice anywhere ..
      2. loki565
        loki565 24 September 2019 11: 37
        +3
        Over the past 5 years, NASA has been making strides (seven-league)

        I wonder what are the steps ??? leaps and bounds were taken from the 60s to the collapse of the USSR, and now stagnation of clean water
        1. orionvitt
          orionvitt 24 September 2019 15: 04
          0
          Quote: loki565
          stagnation of pure water

          You probably didn’t live in the 90s. They would be silent already.
          1. loki565
            loki565 24 September 2019 15: 37
            0
            The dialogue was not swami and was not about the 90s, but
            Over the last 5 years

            So this applies to you more)))
            They would be silent already.
      3. anjey
        anjey 24 September 2019 11: 41
        +3
        You know that all these programs are costly and unprofitable and do not bring quick profits, if it concerns civilian developments, most likely the dual purpose of space exploration through the Pentagon works, at any cost to get priority over potential adversaries, and there, this is the "movement" in the American space segment laughing
    2. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 24 September 2019 12: 26
      0
      Quote: anjey
      and in 2024, astronauts are scheduled to land on the lunar surface.
      US President Donald Trump previously announced the acceleration of the lunar program of the United States and the allocation of additional funds for it.
      I don’t believe in the "American lunar mission", and it doesn’t look like Trump, he seems to know how to count money and then throws money into Space, populism of pure water, but okay, in 4-5 years we will see laughing And there, Trump will lose his distance and who needs money will be washed away, received by pullback from Lockheed Martin laughingYes, and Lockheed will not lose, the order is for the state. laughing ..

      You just don't believe in the power of Hollywood and Academy Award winners for special effects !!!
      1. anjey
        anjey 24 September 2019 12: 38
        +1
        Oh, Dream Factory rules and Luna 2 is already directed laughing
  3. Shahno
    Shahno 24 September 2019 11: 13
    0
    Quote: Thrall
    Artemis program, providing for the landing of the first woman and another man on the moon by 2024 year

    The program is outdated since it infringes on the rights of transgender people smile

    It is imperative to include the Israeli astronaut yet .. The application is long ago filed.
    1. anjey
      anjey 24 September 2019 11: 26
      +2
      And give him the call sign "Bouncer 2" laughing
      1. Lbt21
        Lbt21 24 September 2019 12: 09
        -2
        "Prygun 2" is already patented for Russia and Ukraine, remember "who does not jump that cross" and "who does not jump that Moskal"
        1. anjey
          anjey 24 September 2019 12: 16
          +2
          Bereshit, comrade laughing
    2. FenH
      FenH 24 September 2019 11: 35
      -1
      Quote: Shahno
      Quote: Thrall
      Artemis program, providing for the landing of the first woman and another man on the moon by 2024 year

      The program is outdated since rights are violated in it transgender people smile

      Must be included Israeli astronaut more .. The application has long been filed.

      And what is the relationship between them, or is it one and the same person laughing
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  5. Pavel57
    Pavel57 24 September 2019 11: 51
    +2
    And who built the Apollo? You must immediately take someone from Hollywood from Hollywood.
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 24 September 2019 16: 13
      +1
      Werner Von BraunDo you know this?
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 24 September 2019 18: 15
        +2
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        Werner Von BraunDo you know this?


        How, one Werner built everything? I thought some kind of Martin Marietta.
  6. ccsr
    ccsr 24 September 2019 12: 21
    +1
    US President Donald Trump previously announced the acceleration of the lunar program of the United States and the allocation of additional funds for it.

    Somewhere we already heard it:
    January 14 2004 years US President George W. Bush introduced the new US space program. It talked about new ships, about a flight to the moon, a manned base on Earth’s satellite, a manned expedition to Mars, and even contained vague hints of flights outside the solar system. The main question that excites Americans: is Bush’s speech just beautiful words on the eve of the election campaign or a plan for space exploration that will certainly be implemented?
    Bush’s space exploration plan is:
    2004-2008 - development of a manned spacecraft that will replace the shuttles and will be able to deliver people to the moon.
    2004-2010 - resumption of shuttle flights terminated after the crash of the shuttle "Columbia" to the International Space Station.
    2010 - termination of work on the ISS, replacement of shuttles with new ships.
    2010-2014 - unmanned flights to the moon.
    2015-2020 - manned flights to the moon, creation of an inhabited base on it.
    After 2020 - the preparation of the expedition to Mars.

    So the Americans have been "flying" to the moon for a long time - they simply hid it from Trump, and he, not knowing it, made his statement.
    1. maden.usmanow
      maden.usmanow 24 September 2019 16: 09
      +2
      There was a crisis in 2008, the program was cut, Democrat Obama came (Bush was a Republican)

      During the Apollo program, NASA alone spent 3% of US GDP each year.
      The entire current defense budget is ~ 5%

      Try now to get such amounts from the Senate.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 24 September 2019 20: 17
        -1
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        There was a crisis in 2008, the program was cut, Democrat Obama came (Bush was a Republican)

        Did Gorbachev carry out perestroika at this time, or was it getting harder and harder for them to organize Yeltsin?
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        During the Apollo program, NASA alone spent 3% of US GDP each year.

        And there is documentary evidence of this?
        Quote: maden.usmanow
        Try now to get such amounts from the Senate.

        Trump easily succeeded judging by his statements about flights to the moon.
  7. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 24 September 2019 12: 27
    0
    Do they have women?
  8. Shahno
    Shahno 24 September 2019 12: 29
    -1
    Quote: anjey
    Bereshit, comrade laughing

    Mad, comrade .. Ilan Ramon was insane belay
  9. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 24 September 2019 13: 34
    0
    A-y-yay! Well it turns out. There is a whole F-1 engine, which successfully, straight perfectly, brought the Apollo straight to the moon, but it is ignored angry How is that. Ile stupefied over the years that we can’t recreate the o-miracle, the most powerful engine in the world and at times reduce the preparation time for flights such as the moonlaughing After all, he displayed the same 130 tone of regret at the NOU!
    Chet is unclean here! bully
    1. UserGun
      UserGun 24 September 2019 14: 03
      -3
      Only in Russia can they take out devices and prodigies from the era of Tsar Gorokh from mossy chests and flaunt it in public. Shame on you!
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 24 September 2019 14: 06
        +1
        Here are just these
        devices of the era of King Pea
        wow they work like this, unlike just unfounded comments about the super-successful F-1 tongue
        1. UserGun
          UserGun 24 September 2019 15: 19
          -2
          Energy is how? wink That is why it is sometimes better to be silent in a rag and not give out pearls about F-1 and what "we have devices that we will not show you" (c) Mango-Mango. And especially to flaunt the rubbish of the times of King Peas.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 24 September 2019 20: 27
      +1
      They use hydrogen engines from the Shuttle whose UI is higher and help with boosters from the Shuttle with a record thrust for jet engines
  10. Shahno
    Shahno 24 September 2019 14: 50
    +1
    Quote: Greg Miller
    Why be smart? Build the good old Apollo that Armstrong flew !!! After all, he has already "flown" to the moon so many times !!!! laughing

    Why be wise.
    Recreate the good old NK 33. After all, he wanted to fly so many times. And to the moon ...
    Yes. I'm afraid I have to explain. Why can not you recreate the lunar engine on which the vile Americans contrived? Read a brief history of upgrading the NK 33.
  11. Shahno
    Shahno 24 September 2019 15: 03
    -1
    Quote: Letun
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Here, by the way, is for you. NASA Orbiter took new pictures.

    They will object to you that the NASA Orbiter, and of course take a picture of whatever you like. The truth is why Russia does not do and does not launch vehicles to the moon, for twenty years already, they have silently kept silent.

    This is okay for her. And with the orbital constellation, how is Glonnas doing? This is all earthly affairs.
  12. Shahno
    Shahno 24 September 2019 15: 07
    -1
    Quote: orionvitt
    Let's say not an Apollo, but a super duper rocket with F-1 engines, which no one has seen. Except in the museum. Where is it all?

    I have already explained here. If it were necessary, a prototype for the museum would have been made long ago so as not to embarrass you ...
  13. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 September 2019 17: 20
    -3
    "The program envisages three stages: an unmanned flight in the second half of 2020 of the Orion spacecraft installed on a heavy rocket Space Launch System (SLS) around the Moon and its return to Earth, a flight around the Moon by a ship with a crew on board in 2022 and a landing of astronauts is planned in 2024. to the surface of the moon. "
    Oh, how ... And once "flew" several times without any "unmanned flights", "manned overflights" ... Just got into a rocket - vzhzhuh! - and on the moon. And so several times. Then, you see, the magic stick broke. laughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 September 2019 20: 26
      +3
      There were flights and overflights of the Moon - Apollo 11 first made the lunar landing.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 24 September 2019 20: 28
      +2
      Actually, Saturn-5 had two unmanned flights, then manned overflights, etc.
      1. Lontus
        Lontus 25 September 2019 13: 00
        -1
        Quote: BlackMokona
        Actually, Saturn-5 had two unmanned flights, then manned overflights, etc.

        We are talking about unmanned overflights of the moon - and they were not in the Apollo program.
        They declare that immediately people were launched to the moon ..
        No need to juggle so naively - just discredit believers in flights to the moon even more 50 years ago.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 25 September 2019 15: 48
          0
          They launched an entire AMA armada, so there was a sea of ​​unmanned overflights of the Moon.
          To prepare for a manned flight, NASA carried out several AMC programs: Ranger (1961-1965, photographing the surface), Surveyor (1966-1968, soft landing and shooting of the terrain) and Lunar Orbiter (1966-1967, detailed image of the surface The moon).

          Everything was explored and prepared as tightly as possible.
  14. Shahno
    Shahno 24 September 2019 17: 25
    0
    Quote: stock buildbat
    "The program envisages three stages: an unmanned flight in the second half of 2020 of the Orion spacecraft installed on a heavy rocket Space Launch System (SLS) around the Moon and its return to Earth, a flight around the Moon by a ship with a crew on board in 2022 and a landing of astronauts is planned in 2024. to the surface of the moon. "
    Oh, how ... And once "flew" several times without any "unmanned flights", "manned overflights" ... Just got into a rocket - vzhzhuh! - and on the moon. And so several times. Then, you see, the magic stick broke. laughing

    So maybe they do not want accidents. There were many losses. No, or you have another info ..