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The head of the GVP of Ukraine Chumak spoke about the investigation of the "Ilovaisk case"

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The new chief prosecutor of Ukraine Viktor Chumak told on the radio about how the investigation of the so-called “Ilovaisk case” is progressing. Recall that in Ukraine, a number of high-ranking military (current and former) are involved in the case of the reasons for the entry of Ukrainian troops into the boiler near Ilovaisk in the 2014 year.


The head of the GVP of Ukraine Chumak spoke about the investigation of the "Ilovaisk case"


Previously, information appeared that this case in Ukraine was completely closed. Chumak denied such statements. According to him, now "you can get new information regarding the investigation."

According to the head of the GWP of Ukraine Chumak, many people who were involved in the "Ilovaisk case" held earlier or now occupy high posts. "

Chief Military Prosecutor of Ukraine:

Previously, they simply refused to attend interrogations. I think that now they will calmly come to interrogations and tell everything how it happened during the planning and development of events in Ilovaisk.

According to Mr. Chumak, it is necessary to collect the evidence base in this case and determine whether “political mistakes were made then or some other mistakes”.

Chumak:

Of course, everyone wants everyone to be put there. But first, the legal qualification of these actions must be given.

Recall that in the Ukrainian interpretation, the term "Ilovaysky boiler" is practically not used. Under Poroshenko, the events of the defeat of the Ukrainian group near Ilovaisk were called "a retreat from the bridgehead to previously prepared positions." According to the Kiev version, 366 soldiers from the Ukrainian side were killed in battles near this city. About the loss of the DNI and LC official data is not presented so far.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 24 September 2019 06: 02
    +6
    Maybe, finally, the events on the Maidan are being investigated?
    And the burning of people in Odessa?
    Five years!!! Investigation? And they didn’t set such a task! On the contrary, the destruction of evidence. And so that in the future no one could find the ends.
    1. Oleg (Kharkov)
      Oleg (Kharkov) 24 September 2019 08: 37
      +8
      Quote: Victor_B
      Maybe, finally, the events on the Maidan are being investigated?

      Dear, we still do not know the whole truth about 1991. And you about the Maidan.
      On the topic: would like to punish someone - would have been punished. Romania 1989. For four days, the country's leader was removed. judged. shot.
      5 years passed right there. Maybe someone from the former defense ministers put to the wall? for the loss of defense, etc.? Can Kuchma tried for nuclear weapons and carriers?
      Stalin at one time was not afraid, in spite of the party oligarchs there party Zinoviev and Kamenev to the wall on an absolutely far-fetched accusation?
      Here is another. There is no war. No ATO (loss of 1,5 people per week is ridiculous). "The Strange War", "Sedentary War" 1939-1940gg. was with much greater losses.
      Ilovaisk now remembered that there was a reason to take part of the money from the old elite. But this is my opinion. I am just a simple layman. Moreover, my opinion, as a layman, if the Donbass does not want to live by the rules of the Kuev oligarchs, he has the right to defend his citizens with arms in hand. Which belongs to the earth and its bowels.
      In our forums, mentally ill people write about them (as well as about residents of the Crimea), as people of the second grade. Naive. The fact that people did not want to swim further on the yellow-blue Titanic is not a sign of their inferiority.
    2. ™ Ramzes ™
      ™ Ramzes ™ 24 September 2019 11: 40
      0
      Kst. about Odessa. Then the other day in the book, the plaintive whine of Palubia slipped through that a criminal case was opened against him on charges of "organizing riots in Odessa on May 2, 2014" and supplying weapons to illegal groups during the Revolution of Obnoxiousness ...
  2. 210ox
    210ox 24 September 2019 06: 02
    +6
    Ukraine itself is a big political mistake ..
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 24 September 2019 08: 14
      +1
      Not only a political, but also an economic mistake. Having resources, a rather high level of industry, and labor resources, it could have been raising the standard of living in the country for almost three decades, and as a result we see something like Niger or Somalia, but in Europe. request feel
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 September 2019 06: 07
    +2
    "Retreat to prearranged positions" why investigate? And if you have a "boiler", just call it - BOILER!
    Need to investigate? There are thousands of witnesses. Still fresh in my memory. But if how to investigate Boeing, with a previously announced culprit, then why take so long?
  4. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 September 2019 06: 13
    0
    they have two, boilers, Ilovaysky and Maidan .. And everyone, investigates, Raising pigs and milking cows is what they can do, okay.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 September 2019 06: 13
    +1
    Under Poroshenko, the events of the defeat of the Ukrainian group near Ilovaisk were called “a retreat from the bridgehead to previously prepared positions

    aha! with ensigns, regalia, headquarters ... people are withdrawn)), the technique has been transferred to western positions)) laughing laughing laughing
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 September 2019 06: 17
    +1
    But first, the legal qualification of these actions must be given.
    They even remembered the legal qualifications. It turns out that earlier this was not taken into account and, as "Gorny Strelok" correctly noted, it was about a planned withdrawal, and I will add from myself, and the big losses were caused by the cunning of the "separatists". What is there to investigate in five years when the picture was clear even then, incl. the names of those responsible.
  7. anjey
    anjey 24 September 2019 06: 30
    +2
    All this is simply creating the appearance for the people that the new government supposedly works diligently in the legal field and raking the legacy of the pig laughing, this will not end in anything serious, one fiction ....
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 24 September 2019 08: 19
      +1
      The pig has hooves in the blood, and Zelensky’s new government also does not refuse to pour blood on. And with estimates of war crimes is also not in a hurry. negative
      1. anjey
        anjey 24 September 2019 08: 48
        +1
        Because there is no real independence, it is more ostentatious, to the public ...
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 24 September 2019 08: 13
    0
    Their business, this is what they need first of all !!!
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 24 September 2019 09: 08
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      Their business, this is what they need first of all !!!

      Yes, they care about business, in general there is nothing more to be needed, they do not even bother about this.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 September 2019 10: 15
        +1
        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        Quote: rocket757
        Their business, this is what they need first of all !!!

        Yes, they care about business, in general there is nothing more to be needed, they do not even bother about this.

        This is now, along the way! The main thing is to collect facts to accumulate, even if it lies on a shelf ... when it comes time to blow the dust and start! It is certainly better late than never, but in TIME it will bring more benefits! Present, it was sewn to soap, it might not be tackled .... but again, THESE MATTERS!
  9. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 24 September 2019 09: 11
    0
    Recall that in the Ukrainian interpretation the term "Ilovaysky boiler" is practically not used.
    They are probably now, still shaking with fear, they are afraid of this boiler, and therefore do not say.
  10. orionvitt
    orionvitt 24 September 2019 15: 20
    0
    "Retreat from the bridgehead to pre-prepared positions"
    However, the Minsk agreements were signed. Otherwise, Tryndets would be Ukraine.
  11. rus-5819
    rus-5819 25 September 2019 19: 55
    0
    But first, the legal qualification of these actions must be given.

    Lord, have the lawyers appeared in their prosecutors instead of Kumov’s gopot