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After the disruption of negotiations with the US, the Taliban went to negotiate in China

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Representatives of the Taliban banned in the Russian Federation held talks in Beijing with senior Chinese officials.




The political leadership of the Taliban, led by deputy movement leader Mullah Baradar Ahund, met in Beijing with a representative of the Chinese authorities. The parties discussed a dialogue between the Taliban and the United States, and a possible resolution to the conflict.

During the conversation, the parties recognized that the agreement between Washington and the Taliban could be a way to resolve the crisis in Afghanistan, however, according to Baradar Akhund, Trump, after a series of negotiations, now does not want to adhere to his earlier promises.

If the American president is not ready to listen to his own promises, then he will be responsible for any bloodshed in the country.

- said the leader of the Taliban negotiation group. He also stressed that the Taliban "defend their nation, Afghanistan and Islamic values».

Negotiations between the movement and the United States were interrupted after a series of terrorist acts committed by the Taliban amid an attempted peace process. Trump's refusal to negotiate was confirmed this week by the White House. In addition to Washington, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani suspended dialogue with the Taliban. After the disruption of the negotiation process, the Taliban delegations have already visited Russia, Iran and China.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 22 September 2019 19: 10
    +1
    Can the Chinese comrades offer the Taliban to help stop the protests in Hong Kong? smile
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 22 September 2019 19: 27
      -6
      Representatives of the Taliban, prohibited in the Russian Federation
      Maybe the Chinese comrades, who are not at all comrades to us, and do not conduct any negotiations with them? What do you think, a citizen of a neighboring state?
      1. Astronaut
        Astronaut 22 September 2019 19: 44
        +5
        After the disruption of the negotiation process, Taliban delegations have already visited Russia, Iran and China.

        You have not read the article to the end
        1. Destiny
          Destiny 22 September 2019 19: 47
          -8
          Yes, just tired.

          We’ll figure it out without them.
          Minus players "Torkvemadovskie" - and without you too ..
    2. Rwmos
      Rwmos 22 September 2019 20: 42
      0
      They have already contributed there without the Taliban ... Hong Kong's own business laughing
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 22 September 2019 19: 17
    +3
    As I understand it, China received an invitation from the Taliban, then the United States can do business at all is not important in the country?
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 22 September 2019 19: 30
      +4
      Quote: APASUS
      As I understand it, China received an invitation from the Taliban, then the United States can do business at all is not important in the country?

      China has been there since the time of the 40th Army, if not earlier. But always on the sly. I don't think the Yankees are now "legalized".
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 September 2019 19: 33
        +1
        Quote: Doliva63
        ... I don't think the Yankees are now "legalized".

        Well, why? Such a moment to have leverage on the Americans, and even in the open. The Americans openly press on China, through Taiwan
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 22 September 2019 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: Doliva63
          ... I don't think the Yankees are now "legalized".

          Well, why? Such a moment to have leverage on the Americans, and even in the open. The Americans openly press on China, through Taiwan

          It’s right to have a lever of pressure on the Yankees, but not Chinese in the open. And no one else, probably.
          1. Chaldon48
            Chaldon48 22 September 2019 22: 58
            +1
            If China agrees to help the Taliban and undertakes certain obligations in this regard, the United States will have one more lever of pressure on China.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 23 September 2019 18: 04
              0
              Quote: Chaldon48
              If China agrees to help the Taliban and undertakes certain obligations in this regard, the United States will have one more lever of pressure on China.

              You confuse who is in the country. If China comes to an agreement with the Taliban and helps a little, the US will not have time to talk about the withdrawal of troops, they will simply fly out of there. And it will be so swift that the Americans are unlikely to have time to use this lever. influence. It is quite another matter that China is not a fan of direct confrontation
              1. Chaldon48
                Chaldon48 23 September 2019 18: 30
                0
                I don’t confuse anything, this is just an assumption. China by itself and it will not help anyone, because by and large its leaders decisively do not give a damn about everyone, they only mean their interests.
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 23 September 2019 18: 32
                  0
                  Quote: Chaldon48
                  China in itself and he will not help anyone, because by and large its leaders decisively do not give a damn about everyone, they mean only their interests.

                  Is it not in the interests of China to create the US problem, if only because of Taiwan itself?
        2. Astra wild
          Astra wild 22 September 2019 20: 45
          0
          I'm not sure that the Chinese will go for it: 1) the Chinese traditionally prefer to act "on a sly." 2) Afghanistan and especially the "Taliban" are not of great interest to them.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 22 September 2019 21: 06
            +5
            You are mistaken, Astra. The business is that the Chinese have a common border with Afghanistan. And they do not need US bases in this country. hi
            1. Astra wild
              Astra wild 22 September 2019 21: 45
              +1
              I didn’t think about bases
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 23 September 2019 08: 51
      0
      No, rather these are the very Taliban crap before the negotiations are now looking for a backup option.
  3. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 22 September 2019 19: 19
    +1
    Waited a long time like this information. For some reason, no one "talks" about the role and influence of China in Afghanistan. And the Chinese, unlike the USSR, did not leave Afgan. China continued to provide assistance to the Hazaras, whom it considers "Chinese Ukrainians"))) And the Hazaras are the third largest ethnic group in Afghanistan.
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 22 September 2019 20: 18
      +1
      Only the Taliban apparently gratefully blew up the Buddhist statues in Bamiyan.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 22 September 2019 20: 38
        +9
        The Taliban are mostly Pashtuns, but the whole history of Afghanistan shows that the Pashtuns can have full-fledged power when they "agree" with the Tajiks and Hazaras. Khazara is the poorest and most "scorned" by the Pashtuns and Tajiks, but rather "aggressive". The bulk of the Khazars is focused not so much on Shiite Iran (there are many Shiites among the Khazars) as on China, which, since the time of the Soviet invasion (then China was an enemy of the USSR), began to actively support the Hazaras (as a kindred nation, according to China itself in the 80s) ... The main flow of Chinese weapons to Afghanistan has been established through the Khazars. The Taliban understand this and are afraid that they will not be able to resist, after leaving without the support of the Hazaras, the Tajiks and Uzbeks, among whom the ideology of Ishil is being actively promoted. The Taliban did not control the north of Afghanistan during the years of their power, and now they may also lose the areas of residence of the Hazaras. And the Isis is becoming a dangerous competitor for the Taliban (especially with the support of the US ISIS). That's the whole deal! So the Taliban are rushing from country to country, especially since the Saudis now have their own problems.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 22 September 2019 21: 16
          +6
          Vitaliy, for reference, among the Hazaras there are many representatives of Kazakh tribal clans. Jalaira (I am of this kind), Naiman, Barlas, etc. .. They are the descendants of the nomads whom the Genghisides left to control this territory. hi
          1. Vitaly Tsymbal
            Vitaly Tsymbal 22 September 2019 22: 31
            +5
            For Kasym (Dauren) Thanks for clarifying. I heard that Kazakh tribes live in Afghanistan, but I thought that it was the Basmachis who left for Afghanistan at the time when Soviet power was established in Central Asia. True, those Hazaras whom I saw in Afghanistan do not look very much like Kazakhs, and I lived in Kazakhstan for 8 years.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 23 September 2019 20: 08
              0
              They have since, Vitaly, assimilated with local peoples. Many words were adopted from the Persian language. They were driven out of the north-eastern to the central, rocky and mountainous part of Afghanistan. hi
  4. demo
    demo 22 September 2019 19: 24
    +5
    After the disruption of the negotiation process, the Taliban delegations have already visited Russia, Iran and China.
    And wherein!
    Representatives of the Taliban movement banned in the Russian Federation held in Beijing with senior Chinese officials.
    And we have everything about Ukraine "duru drive" from the screen.
    Why didn’t they say a word?
  5. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 22 September 2019 19: 26
    0
    Someone else is negotiating with these terrorugs, instead of soaking in the toilet? Does anyone else have faith in them? Wonders!
  6. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 22 September 2019 19: 27
    +1
    According to the picture, "We've been sitting here for a long time" ...
  7. Basarev
    Basarev 22 September 2019 19: 30
    -7
    And what side is China to this completely alien govnokonflictom? And the meaning of gossip with the Taliban? There is nothing to negotiate with them, they should only be destroyed, trying to kill them all.
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 23 September 2019 15: 56
      0
      Quote: Basarev
      And what side is China to this completely alien govnokonflictom? And the meaning of gossip with the Taliban? There is nothing to negotiate with them, they should only be destroyed, trying to kill them all.

      common border with Afghanistan, American bases in Afghanistan ... support (including arms) by China of some Afghan groups from the late 70s to the present ...
      some kind of sideways.
      the conflict seems to be alien - but it seems not quite - interests intersect somewhere
  8. Lexus
    Lexus 22 September 2019 19: 35
    +1
    The three Taliban at the table spoke to Jinping:
    - While Merikosa is in Kabul, issues are not being resolved.
    “How would we conduct them so that the Shariah can be established?”
    - We want to see the "red emperor" as our curator. bully
  9. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 September 2019 19: 41
    0
    If Trump refused to meet with the Taliban, then he will inevitably meet with them, knowing his inconstant nature!
  10. xayot1966
    xayot1966 22 September 2019 19: 44
    +2
    Kitay umeet delat dengi. Oni eshyo togda postavlyali orujie protiv Sovetskoe voyska. Nu teper Talibam budet pomogat. Dlya nix eto just business. Ochen kovarniy i gryazniy narod.
  11. knn54
    knn54 22 September 2019 19: 58
    0
    The Taliban decided to play on several boards ...
  12. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 22 September 2019 20: 02
    -1
    Something tells me that in the circumstances, the Taliban will agree much more easily with China.
  13. Vadim T.
    Vadim T. 22 September 2019 20: 06
    0
    I wonder who the Taliban met in Russia? I bet that with the Prime Minister. After his catchphrase "There is no money, but you hold on there," they rushed to China. Maybe at least something will break off there?
  14. den3080
    den3080 22 September 2019 20: 18
    0
    Such men in trousers are serious.
  15. Evil echo
    Evil echo 22 September 2019 20: 36
    0
    Someone of the Taliban fussed. Is everything getting bad?
    1. Katanikotael
      Katanikotael 22 September 2019 23: 27
      +2
      Americans now have another beloved wife there
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  17. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 22 September 2019 20: 45
    -2
    VO has already slipped to the level of “Speed ​​Info,” the whole paragraph is missing in the first paragraph.
    That’s where the moderators look closely,
  18. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 22 September 2019 20: 46
    +4
    What did the Taliban do in Russia. They are forbidden
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 22 September 2019 21: 56
      +6
      Quote: Ken71
      What did the Taliban do in Russia

      A century of diplomatic relations was celebrated. sad
  19. Astra wild
    Astra wild 22 September 2019 20: 59
    +1
    "have already visited: Russia, Iran and China", apparently, things are going on for them, it doesn't matter if they zealously took up negotiations.
    "Negotiations between the movement and the US were interrupted after a series of terrorist attacks by the Taliban in the background of an attempt at a peace process" probably their leadership has lost control of the movement or they have a split in the leadership
    1. axiles100682
      axiles100682 22 September 2019 23: 09
      +1
      Or, on the contrary, a new center of power has emerged with which you can talk, which you can trust? Russia, Iran, and China are not for nothing that these countries were chosen.
  20. EDWARD
    EDWARD 22 September 2019 21: 39
    0
    China spoiled a lot of nerves for our commanders during the Afghan campaign. The Taliban must show themselves as a negotiable partner. and then already travel with the "dove of peace" in hands, to the world capitals.
  21. Saxahorse
    Saxahorse 22 September 2019 22: 05
    +4
    Right fantastic news. :) In the morning I just read that mosques in Islamic regions began to blow up in China, and then all of a sudden they are talking with Afghan Islamists? The farther the more wonderful and wonderful laughing
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  23. bogart047
    bogart047 22 September 2019 23: 29
    +1
    the world turned upside down - everyone is negotiating with terrorists, it looks wild. Under Stalin, this was not
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 23 September 2019 09: 48
      +2
      Stalin and Churchill, despite the "polar" views in ideology, solved this problem "at once". good
  24. Nycomed
    Nycomed 23 September 2019 09: 45
    +1
    We are "overplaying" with Tehran, and they will come to us.