Manufacturer "Abrams" introduced a prototype of the "light tank"

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American company General Dynamics introduced a new concept of lung tank. The presentation took place at the exhibition of advanced weapons of the US Marine Corps.





At Modern Day Marine in Quantico, Virginia, General Dynamics unveiled a mockup of a new "light tank" dubbed the Griffin II. The prospective vehicle will have improved armor and a 120mm cannon similar to the 120mm M1Abrams, a tank made by the same company. The Griffin turret is a smaller version of the Abrams turret and is designed to fight tanks and other armored vehicles.

The presented platform is primarily designed for expeditionary and airborne troops. The US Army expects the new "light tank" to weigh 38 tons. It is designed to participate in modern multi-domain warfare, that is, conducted simultaneously in five areas - on land, in the air, on water, in space and cyberspace.

Battalions ask for fire


The Griffin II is primarily intended to support infantry brigades: a vehicle that can be airlifted into combat and maneuvered through urban space, but with the lethal firepower of a full-fledged tank at long range to destroy enemy armor.

According to available information, with the help of a new platform with a 120-mm gun, the Pentagon intends to increase the firepower of the airborne and other expeditionary forces and light infantry. The tank was developed as part of the Mobile Protected Firepower program (Mobile protected firepower) of the US Armed Forces.

The survivability of the platform can be significantly improved with the help of intelligent sensors that will be integrated with the machine's software to create a multi-layered system of passive and active protection measures.

American analogue of Russian landing equipment


On December 17, 2018, the United States Army awarded two contracts to BAE Systems and General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) for over US$375 million and US$335 million, respectively. As part of the agreement, each firm over the next 14 months had to build 12 prototypes for further testing. The third application, which was the fruit of the cooperation of the American defense company SAIC with Singapore's ST Engineering and Belgian CMI Defense, was rejected.


"Octopus-SD"


The concept of the Mobile Protected Firepower multi-purpose land platform is considered by a number of American experts - in particular, Chris Osborne from Warrior Maven magazine - as a response to the Russian Sprut-SD self-propelled anti-tank gun. Like the prototype of the American light tank, the 2S25 or "Sprut-SD" is designed for airmobile troops, carries a 125-mm gun, and, due to its lower weight and dimensions, has greater maneuverability and mobility with combat power comparable to MBT.
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    1. +2
      22 September 2019 17: 25
      We were convinced of the prospects of "Octopus" and began to make an analogue ... It's funny ...
      1. 0
        22 September 2019 18: 08
        Yes, no, just even the layout does not quite reach the serial Russian car. In other words, with the development of a light tank, everything is completely bad there.
        1. -1
          22 September 2019 19: 57
          Quote: cormorant
          Yes, no, just even the layout does not quite reach the serial Russian car. In other words, with the development of a light tank, everything is completely bad there.

          And apparently, the Octopus based on Kurganets, with an uninhabited tower, is on its way.
      2. +2
        22 September 2019 20: 39
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        We were convinced of the prospects of "Octopus" and began to make an analogue ... It's funny ...

        It was fun to read
        the new "light tank" will weigh 38 tons. It is designed to participate in modern multi-domain hostilities, that is, conducted simultaneously in five areas - on land, in the air, on water, in space and cyberspace.

        Well, there is already a car in space. So that was a test? Now a tank is coming?!
        1. +5
          22 September 2019 23: 04
          it's mine !! the germans sent the panther into space
      3. +1
        23 September 2019 15: 26
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        We were convinced of the prospects of "Octopus" and began to make an analogue ... Fun

        True, the analogue turned out to be 20 tons heavier, without the possibility of parachute landing and without the ability to swim. Well, the barn, of course, is not lower than Abrams ...
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    3. +3
      22 September 2019 17: 33
      And ours will make a trick with their tail and put the ship's 76-mm cannon on a heavy infantry fighting vehicle.
      1. +1
        22 September 2019 19: 57
        Quote: Izotovp
        And ours will make a trick with their tail and put the ship's 76-mm cannon on a heavy infantry fighting vehicle.

        Enough of the 15 mm machine gun already on the T-57)))
    4. +6
      22 September 2019 17: 39
      Fat removed from Abrams belay
    5. +1
      22 September 2019 17: 44
      Look - the USA also has its own octopus! And they said they don’t need it for hell, 2C3 is better
    6. +1
      22 September 2019 17: 50
      This vehicle is a direct competitor to the M1128 support vehicles already in service with a 105-mm cannon, which are used in "striker brigades". They also wanted to see something similar in other parts: light, fast and with a powerful gun. Well, well protected.
    7. +9
      22 September 2019 17: 56
      38 tons means that both the frontal armor and the side armor are halved.
      At the same time, it is supposed to engage in skirmishes with the enemy's MBT.
      If you do not hit the first and the first two shells - guaranteed death. It is not very clear why the Marines need such a miracle? recourse
      1. +3
        22 September 2019 18: 10
        It is visually much less like. Maybe they didn’t reduce the thickness. Only due to the size of seconomili? Although for a light tank 40 tons is ridiculous.
      2. 0
        22 September 2019 18: 23
        I think the Marines need such a tank, because it’s impossible to deliver a heavy tank for frequent ones.
        1. +5
          22 September 2019 18: 33
          Critical question:
          "Should the Marine Support Light Tank engage in firefights with enemy MBTs?"
          If yes, then it is deadly for him. Chances are 1:5 to win.
          If not, then why does a light tank need a 120 mm tank gun? 105 mm is enough for the eyes.
          1. +1
            22 September 2019 19: 01
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Critical question:
            "Should the Marine Support Light Tank engage in firefights with enemy MBTs?"
            - Black on white:
            Quote: article
            with the lethal firepower of a full-fledged tank at long range to destroy enemy armored vehicles.
            What kind of armored vehicles is not specified.
          2. 0
            22 September 2019 19: 33
            LAHAT in the barrel and you can engage in battle with MBT. Yes, and 20 tons is quite possible to save due to geometry or due to new composites, without reducing the protection of the tank.
            1. +1
              23 September 2019 15: 30
              Quote: Zeev Zeev
              LAHAT in the barrel and you can engage in battle with MBT.

              Well, for example, Octopus and without your Jewish innovations can perfectly engage in battle with MBT. The main thing is to get yourself first and get away in time.
              1. 0
                23 September 2019 15: 51
                Well LAHAT is not new. In addition, the "Octopus" armor protects a maximum from a machine gun
          3. +1
            22 September 2019 20: 43
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Critical question:
            "Should the Marine Support Light Tank engage in firefights with enemy MBTs?"
            If yes, then it is deadly for him. Chances are 1:5 to win.
            If not, then why does a light tank need a 120 mm tank gun? 105 mm is enough for the eyes.

            The meaning can be simply in "as the development of the budget"? Why drive a "full-fledged" tank, when against obsolete types of MBT you only need the same caliber and "a bit of armor", just in case? Maybe this is just a way not to drive MBT once again ...
      3. 0
        22 September 2019 18: 36
        Why do Marines need such a miracle?

        In WOT for benders imho
      4. +1
        22 September 2019 19: 46
        Quote: voyaka uh
        It’s not very clear why marines need such a miracle?

        =======
        Yes, it’s more or less clear here: "Abrams" - even in the S-5 "Galaxy" if with BC and a supply of fuel you can only shove one. If without BC and with the minimum possible refueling, maybe 2 will fit. Yes, and then the "overload" will work. And these - at least - 3 (with BC and full tanks). And if empty - so maybe what kind of light armored vehicle will fit "with a creak" - the size of the cabin allows!
      5. 0
        22 September 2019 20: 43
        At least he has a chance in a battle with MBT. Sprut has much less of them. Although the crew of the Octopus will not climb.
        1. +1
          23 September 2019 15: 32
          Quote: Ken71
          He even has a chance in a battle with MBT. Octopus has far fewer

          I think that with his halved armor, there are as many chances as the Octopus.
          1. 0
            23 September 2019 22: 39
            The octopus is completely cardboard, but it floats
            1. 0
              24 September 2019 13: 17
              Well, this one is all plastic. literally. this is still a dummy at the exhibition laughing
              1. 0
                24 September 2019 18: 37
                Photo left. There is also iron
                1. 0
                  25 September 2019 13: 17
                  PL-01 is also available in iron and foam wink
                  the question is that if this hardware does not provide the level of MBT protection, and therefore weighs the same, then consider that it does not exist. just harder than it could be. it turns out UG, but does not swim laughing
    8. +1
      22 September 2019 18: 15
      Quote: voyaka uh
      38 tons means that both the frontal armor and the side armor are halved.
      At the same time, it is supposed to engage in skirmishes with the enemy's MBT.
      If you do not hit the first and the first two shells - guaranteed death. It is not very clear why the Marines need such a miracle? recourse

      It’s better, of course, to drag the Mouse behind them.
    9. +4
      22 September 2019 18: 18
      On the topic of the day: 3 years ago ... In October 2016, General Dynamics Corporation presented the Griffin light tank at the Army Conference taking place in Washington, which can be adopted by the US Army as part of the Mobile Protected Firepower (MPF) program. Griffin is equipped with a turret from the M1 Abrams tank and a 120-mm XM360 gun, designed by the US Army Military Development Center (ARDEC) in conjunction with Benet Laboratories. This gun was originally designed for the Future Combat System, one of the US military's light tank programs that was canceled in 2009. The weight of the Griffin is 28 tons, but it can be reduced by using a lighter turret, the 120 mm gun is replaced by a 105 mm gun, and if necessary, the tank is equipped with additional armor.
      Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/mpf-usa/ MTC "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko.
      1. +1
        22 September 2019 19: 31
        Quote: impostor
        ... In October 2016, General Dynamics Corporation presented the Griffin light tank at the ongoing Washington Army Conference,

        Judging by how it is so adapted for firing with unitary charges, are the disadvantages the same as those of Abrams?
        1. 0
          23 September 2019 19: 43
          Judging by how it is so adapted for firing with unitary charges ....... so there will be a full loader, most likely they will clone
    10. +9
      22 September 2019 18: 23
      Sprue SD also floats. It just isn't released anymore. Let's wait for Octopus SDM-1
      1. 0
        22 September 2019 20: 57
        And what are the options for democracy? Separate case, or a cartridge case?))) And what are you hinting at - a loader for chariots, which is a conveyor for a Negro
      2. +1
        23 September 2019 15: 41
        Quote: Sergey39
        Sprue SD also floats. It just isn't released anymore. Let's wait for Octopus SDM-1

        Octopus SDM-1 will be a full-fledged light tank. Additional protection will be hung on it, the hydropneumatic suspension will be replaced with a torsion bar, the ability to parachute will be removed, new sights and a machine gun will be inserted. And since it will remain floating, I think it will also go to the MP. Maybe it will come in handy in special mountain brigades.
        It will look a little different as well.
    11. +2
      22 September 2019 18: 58
      It is designed to participate in modern multi-domain warfare, that is, conducted simultaneously in five areas - on land, in air, on water, in space and cyberspace.
      Oh you, well, there you are. I have not had time to realize hybridity, and here already multidomain. I'm getting old, I'm getting old... laughing
    12. +12
      22 September 2019 19: 02
      The author misled the audience by inserting a three-year-old photo into the article, which depicts the so-called Griffin technology demonstrator. The Griffin Tower is a smaller version of the M1 Abrams turret, reducing the weight of the turret from 22 tons to eight. Internally identical to M1A2 SEP V2. The hull is taken from the British Ajax multi-purpose tracked platform. The main weapon of the Griffin is the 120 mm XM360 cannon, which weighs half the weight of the Abrams cannon.
      In the same year, at the Modern Day Marine exhibition, General Dynamics presented the Griffin II layout.

      Compared to the first Griffin, the layout has become "heavier" by 10 tons, apparently due to increased protection.
      1. 0
        23 September 2019 01: 11
        That is, the light tank began to weigh 48 tons? Heavier than the T-90?
        1. +3
          23 September 2019 01: 18
          Griffin 2016, which is pictured in the article, weighed 28 tons. The one shown this year, in the photo in my comment, is 38 tons.
    13. -2
      22 September 2019 19: 16
      Looks like armature in silhouette
      ..Not?
      1. 0
        23 September 2019 15: 44
        Quote: Sheptun
        ..Not?

        ..Not.
        You appear to be colorblind.
    14. -2
      22 September 2019 19: 21
      Cut the money, nothing more. Unpromising direction.
    15. +2
      22 September 2019 19: 26
      An extremely reasonable decision. Now conflicts of low intensity are becoming fashionable, where the use of full-fledged MBT will be too expensive ... But such a light tank will do just fine.
      1. 0
        22 September 2019 20: 45
        Any old MBT will gut and bridges will not break everything
    16. -4
      22 September 2019 19: 27
      The presented platform is primarily designed for expeditionary and airborne troops.

      The US Airborne is certainly interesting, but there is one from the 1st division. 101st Hollywood Division. And so it seems like the marines have a gag in each barrel.
      1. 0
        23 September 2019 13: 16
        This one division in terms of personnel is three of ours.
    17. -1
      22 September 2019 19: 34
      Only such a weight implies weak armor protection, and going into battle in the forefront is tantamount to suicide.
    18. -2
      22 September 2019 20: 37
      and how can he swim with Octopus ?? it seems to me that no wassat
      And Joe, too, I think is not going anywhere. The gun is the same as that of Abrashka
    19. -2
      22 September 2019 20: 41
      Another story of the new Sheridan...
    20. 0
      22 September 2019 20: 55
      Excuse me, this is news from the country that. choking, slandered our Octopus, indicating that such a concept is generally unviable?
      "light tank" will weigh 38 tons
      lol
      5 tons lighter than the KV - it turns out a light tank tongue As I understand it, not airborne ... And
      can be airlifted

      ... so our S-400s were transferred to Turkey. By air. So the S-400 is a lightweight, practically pocket-sized, Pe-We-O system
    21. +1
      22 September 2019 21: 28
      Quote: Ken71
      At least he has a chance in a battle with MBT. Sprut has much less of them. Although the crew of the Octopus will not climb.

      Who? At the layout?
    22. -1
      22 September 2019 22: 46
      looks like a squeezed lemon
    23. -2
      22 September 2019 23: 20
      And that the United States has a lot of aircraft capable of lifting 38 tons into the air?
    24. -2
      22 September 2019 23: 30
      And not the high profile of this "coffin". Abrams burned from RPG-7, little is known about this miracle. A cheap version of Abrams for the poor, or stupid as you like.
    25. +2
      23 September 2019 01: 11
      There was a time when they put a cross on light tanks and they returned.
      1. 0
        23 September 2019 09: 54
        Excuse me, but do you really think that 38t at the design stage is a LIGHT tank? )
      2. 0
        23 September 2019 15: 47
        Quote: Buhach
        There was a time when they put a cross on light tanks and they returned.

        I won’t be surprised that with time the gradation will reappear - LT, ST, TT.
        1. 0
          23 September 2019 19: 34
          I won’t be surprised that gradation will reappear over time - LT, ST, TT ......... forgot wedges
    26. 0
      23 September 2019 02: 44
      Somehow LT and 120 mm do not fit !!!???
    27. 0
      23 September 2019 09: 53
      From the point of view of the manufacturer - everything is clear. It is not entirely clear why the Pentagon is doing this? After all, there is a Stryker already mastered in production in many modifications. What prevents you from putting 120mm on it? There have already been analogues.
    28. +1
      23 September 2019 15: 00
      The American company General Dynamics introduced a new concept of a light tank. The presentation took place at the exhibition of promising weapons of the US Marine Corps.

      When did you introduce it?
      Here is the video from 03.10.16/XNUMX/XNUMX. Almost three years ago...

      What is the article about? What new gun or armor?
      1. +1
        24 September 2019 13: 23
        something that is more and more reminiscent of the story with the PL-01 foam supertank ... request

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