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American company General Dynamics introduced a new concept of lung tank. The presentation took place at the exhibition of promising weapons of the US Marine Corps.




At Modern Day Marine in Quantico, Virginia, General Dynamics Corporation introduced a mock-up of a new “light tank” called the Griffin II. The promising vehicle will have improved armor and an 120 mm cannon, similar to the 120 mm cannon M1Abrams, a tank manufactured by the same company. The Griffin Tower, a smaller version of the Abrams Tower, is designed for battle with tanks and other armored vehicles.

The presented platform is primarily designed for expeditionary and airborne troops. The US Army expects the new "light tank" to weigh 38 tons. It is designed to participate in modern multi-domain warfare, that is, conducted simultaneously in five areas - on land, in air, on water, in space and cyberspace.

Battalions ask for fire


Griffin II is primarily designed to support infantry brigades: a machine that can be deployed over the air to battle and maneuver in urban space, but with the lethal firepower of a full-fledged tank at long distances to destroy enemy armored vehicles.

According to available information, with the help of a new platform with an 120-mm gun, the Pentagon intends to increase the firepower of the airborne and other expeditionary forces and light infantry. The tank was developed as part of the Mobile Protected Firepower program of the US Armed Forces.

Survival of the platform can be significantly improved with the help of intelligent sensors that will be integrated with the software of the machine to create a multi-level system of measures of passive and active protection.

The American analogue of Russian landing equipment


On 17 December 2018, the United States Ground Forces entered into two contracts with BAE Systems and General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS) worth more than 375 million US dollars and 335 million US dollars, respectively. Under the agreement, each firm in the next 14 months was to build 12 prototypes for further testing. The third application, which was the fruit of cooperation between the US defense company SAIC and Singaporean ST Engineering and the Belgian CMI Defense, was rejected.


"Octopus-SD"


The concept of the multipurpose land platform Mobile Protected Firepower is considered by a number of American experts - in particular, Chris Osborne from Warrior Maven magazine - as a response to the Russian Sprut-SD self-propelled anti-tank gun. Like the prototype of the American light tank, the 2X25 or Octopus-SD is designed for airborne troops, carries an 125-mm gun, and due to its smaller weight and dimensions it has greater maneuverability and mobility with comparable combat power to MBT.
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  1. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 September 2019 17: 25
    +2
    We were convinced of the promising nature of the Octopus and started making an analogue ... It's funny ...
    1. cormorant
      cormorant 22 September 2019 18: 08
      0
      But not, just even the layout does not quite reach the serial Russian car. In other words, everything is bad there with the development of a light tank.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 September 2019 19: 57
        -1
        Quote: cormorant
        But not, just even the layout does not quite reach the serial Russian car. In other words, everything is bad there with the development of a light tank.

        And apparently, on the approach of the Octopus at the base of Kurgan, with an uninhabited tower.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 22 September 2019 20: 39
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      We were convinced of the promising nature of the Octopus and started making an analogue ... It's funny ...

      It was funny to read
      the new "light tank" will weigh 38 tons. It is designed to participate in modern multi-domain combat operations, that is, conducted simultaneously in five areas - on land, in air, on water, in space and cyberspace.

      Well, a car in space already exists. So that was a test? Now the tank is coming ?!
      1. novel66
        novel66 22 September 2019 23: 04
        +5
        it's mine !! the germans sent the panther into space
    3. Grits
      Grits 23 September 2019 15: 26
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      We were convinced of the promising nature of "Sprut" and began to make an analogue ...

      True, the analogue turned out to be 20 tons heavier, without the possibility of parachute landing and without the ability to swim. Well, the barn, of course, is not lower than Abrams ...
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  3. Izotovp
    Izotovp 22 September 2019 17: 33
    +3
    And ours will make a feint with the tail and put the ship's 76-mm cannon on a heavy infantry fighting vehicle.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 22 September 2019 19: 57
      +1
      Quote: Izotovp
      And ours will make a feint with the tail and put the ship's 76-mm cannon on a heavy infantry fighting vehicle.

      Enough already available on the T-15 57 mm machine)))
  4. The popuas
    The popuas 22 September 2019 17: 39
    +6
    Abrams fat removed belay
  5. karabass
    karabass 22 September 2019 17: 44
    +1
    Look, the USA has got its octopus! And they said they say hell is not needed, 2C3 is better
  6. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 22 September 2019 17: 50
    +1
    This vehicle is a direct competitor to the M1128 support vehicle already in service with a 105 mm cannon, which are used in striker brigades. Looks like in other parts, they also wanted something similar: light, fast and with a powerful cannon. Well, well protected.
  7. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 September 2019 17: 56
    +9
    38 tons means that both the frontal armor and the side armor are halved.
    In this case, it is supposed to engage in skirmishes with the enemy’s MBT.
    If you did not hit the first and first two shells - guaranteed death. It’s not very clear why marines need such a miracle? recourse
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 22 September 2019 18: 10
      +3
      It is visually much less like. Maybe they didn’t reduce the thickness. Only due to the size of seconomili? Although for a light tank 40 tons is ridiculous.
    2. Donald72
      Donald72 22 September 2019 18: 23
      0
      I think the Marines need such a tank, because it’s impossible to deliver a heavy tank for the frequent one.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 22 September 2019 18: 33
        +5
        Critical question:
        "Should the Marine Support Light Tank engage in firefights with enemy MBTs?"
        If Yes, then for him it is mortally dangerous. Odds 1: 5 win.
        If not, then why a light tank with a 120 mm tank gun? 105 mm is enough for the eyes.
        1. iConst
          iConst 22 September 2019 19: 01
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Critical question:
          "Should the Marine Support Light Tank engage in firefights with enemy MBTs?"
          - In black and white:
          Quote: article
          with lethal firepower of a full-fledged tank at long distances to destroy enemy armored vehicles.
          What armored vehicles are not specified.
        2. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 22 September 2019 19: 33
          0
          LAHAT in the barrel and you can engage in battle with MBT. Yes, and 20 tons is quite possible to save due to geometry or due to new composites, without reducing the protection of the tank.
          1. Grits
            Grits 23 September 2019 15: 30
            +1
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            LAHAT in the barrel and you can engage in battle with MBT.

            Well, for example, Octopus and without your Jewish innovations can perfectly engage in battle with MBT. The main thing is to get yourself first and get away in time.
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 23 September 2019 15: 51
              0
              Well LAHAT is not new. In addition, the "Octopus" armor protects against a machine gun maximum
        3. Alt-right
          Alt-right 22 September 2019 20: 43
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Critical question:
          "Should the Marine Support Light Tank engage in firefights with enemy MBTs?"
          If Yes, then for him it is mortally dangerous. Odds 1: 5 win.
          If not, then why a light tank with a 120 mm tank gun? 105 mm is enough for the eyes.

          The meaning may be simply "the quality of budget development"? Why drive a "full-fledged" tank when you only need the same caliber and "a bit of armor" against outdated MBT types, just in case? Maybe this is just a way not to drive MBT once again ...
    3. impostor
      impostor 22 September 2019 18: 36
      0
      why do marines need such a miracle?

      In WOT for imho nibrators
    4. venik
      venik 22 September 2019 19: 46
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      It’s not very clear why marines need such a miracle?

      =======
      Yes, here it is more-no me understandable: "Abrams" - even in the C-5 "Galaxy" if with a BC and a supply of fuel you can only shove one. If without BC and with the minimum possible refueling, maybe 2 will fit. And even then the "overload" will work. And there are at least 3 of these (with ammo and full tanks). And if empty - so maybe what light armored vehicle will fit "with a creak" - the size of the cabin allows!
    5. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 22 September 2019 20: 43
      0
      He even has a chance in a battle with MBT. The Octopus has much less. Although the crew of Octopus will not climb.
      1. Grits
        Grits 23 September 2019 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: Ken71
        He even has a chance in a battle with MBT. Octopus has far fewer

        I think that with his halved armor, the odds are as many as the Octopus.
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 23 September 2019 22: 39
          0
          The octopus is completely cardboard, but it floats
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 24 September 2019 13: 17
            0
            Well this one is generally plastic. literally. it's still a dummy at the exhibition laughing
            1. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 24 September 2019 18: 37
              0
              The photo is left. There is also iron
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 25 September 2019 13: 17
                0
                PL-01 is also in iron and polystyrene wink
                the question is that if this iron does not provide the level of protection for MBT, which means it weighs the same, then consider that it is not. just harder than it could be. it turns out UG, but does not swim laughing
  8. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 22 September 2019 18: 15
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    38 tons means that both the frontal armor and the side armor are halved.
    In this case, it is supposed to engage in skirmishes with the enemy’s MBT.
    If you did not hit the first and first two shells - guaranteed death. It’s not very clear why marines need such a miracle? recourse

    It’s better, of course, to drag the Mouse behind them.
  9. impostor
    impostor 22 September 2019 18: 18
    +4
    On the topic of the day: 3 years ago ... In October 2016, General Dynamics Corporation presented the Griffin light tank at the Army Conference in Washington, which can be adopted by the U.S. Army as part of the Mobile Protected Firepower (MPF) program. Griffin is equipped with a turret from the M1 Abrams tank and a 120mm XM360 gun, designed by the American Army's Military Development Center (ARDEC) in conjunction with Benet Laboratories. Initially, this gun was created for the Future Combat System - one of the programs for creating light tanks for the American army, which was canceled in 2009. Griffin's weight is 28 tons, but it can be reduced by using a lightweight turret, the 120-mm gun is replaced by a 105-mm gun, and if necessary, the tank is equipped with additional armor.
    Source: http://nevskii-bastion.ru/mpf-usa/ MTC "NEVSKY BASTION" AVKarpenko.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 22 September 2019 19: 31
      +1
      Quote: impostor
      ... In October 2016, General Dynamics Corporation presented the Griffin light tank at an army conference in Washington

      Judging by how it is so adapted for firing with unitary charges, the flaws are the same as those of Abrams?
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 23 September 2019 19: 43
        0
        Judging by how it is so adapted for firing with unitary charges ....... it will therefore be full-charging, most likely they will clone
  10. Sergey39
    Sergey39 22 September 2019 18: 23
    +9
    Spru SD also swims. Only he is no longer being released. Let's wait Octopus SDM-1
    1. impostor
      impostor 22 September 2019 20: 57
      0
      And what are the options for democracy? Separate case, or a cartridge case?))) And what are you hinting at - a loader for chariots, which is a conveyor for a Negro
    2. Grits
      Grits 23 September 2019 15: 41
      +1
      Quote: Sergey39
      Spru SD also swims. Only he is no longer being released. Let's wait Octopus SDM-1

      Octopus SDM-1 will be a full-fledged light tank. Additional protection will be hung on it, the hydropneumatic suspension will be replaced with a torsion suspension, the ability to parachute by parachute will be removed, new sights and a machine gun will be stuck. And since it will remain floating, I think it will go to the MP too. Maybe it’s useful in special mountain brigades.
      It will look a little different.
  11. iConst
    iConst 22 September 2019 18: 58
    +2
    It is designed to participate in modern multi-domain warfare, that is, conducted simultaneously in five areas - on land, in air, on water, in space and cyberspace.
    Oh you-well, you-well. I have not yet had time to realize hybridity, and here is multi-domain. Getting old, getting old .... laughing
  12. Undecim
    Undecim 22 September 2019 19: 02
    +12
    The author misled the audience by inserting a three-year-old photo in the article, which depicts the so-called technology demonstrator Griffin. The Griffin Tower is a smaller version of the Abrams M1 tower, which reduced the weight of the tower from 22 tons to eight. Inside identical to M1A2 SEP V2. The body is taken from the British multi-purpose tracked tracked platform Ajax. The main weapon of the Griffin is the 120mm XM360 gun, weighing half the weight of the Abrams gun.
    In the same year, at the exhibition Modern Day Marine General Dynamics introduced the layout of the Griffin II.

    Compared to the first Griffin, the layout "grew heavier" by 10 tons, apparently due to increased protection.
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 23 September 2019 01: 11
      0
      That is, the light tank began to weigh 48 tons? Heavier than the T-90?
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 23 September 2019 01: 18
        +3
        Griffin 2016, which in the photo in the article, weighed 28 tons. The one shown this year in the photo in my comment is 38 tons.
  13. Whisper
    Whisper 22 September 2019 19: 16
    -2
    The silhouette of the armature is similar
    ..not?
    1. Grits
      Grits 23 September 2019 15: 44
      0
      Quote: Sheptun
      ..not?

      ..not.
      You are apparently color blind.
  14. Kars
    Kars 22 September 2019 19: 21
    -2
    Cut the money, nothing more. Unpromising direction.
  15. Basarev
    Basarev 22 September 2019 19: 26
    +2
    An extremely reasonable decision. Now conflicts of low intensity are becoming fashionable, where the use of full-fledged MBT will be too expensive ... But such a light tank will do just fine.
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 22 September 2019 20: 45
      0
      Any old MBT gut and bridges will not break everything
  16. Karabas
    Karabas 22 September 2019 19: 27
    -4
    The presented platform is primarily designed for expeditionary and airborne troops.

    The US Airborne is certainly interesting, but there is one from the 1st division. 101st Hollywood Division. And so it seems like the marines have a gag in each barrel.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 23 September 2019 13: 16
      0
      This one division in terms of personnel is three of ours.
  17. Thrifty
    Thrifty 22 September 2019 19: 34
    -1
    Only here such weight implies weak armor protection, and to go in the front ranks in battle is tantamount to suicide.
  18. Klingon
    Klingon 22 September 2019 20: 37
    -2
    and how can he swim with Octopus ?? it seems to me that no wassat
    And Joe, too, I think I’m not going anywhere. The TC gun is the same as Abrashka’s
  19. Azazelo
    Azazelo 22 September 2019 20: 41
    -2
    Another story of a new sheridan ...
  20. Rwmos
    Rwmos 22 September 2019 20: 55
    0
    Sorry, this is news from the country that. choking, scattered our Octopus, indicating that such a concept is generally unsustainable?
    "Light tank" will weigh 38 tons
    lol
    5 tons lighter than HF - you get a light tank tongue So I understand, not airborne ... And
    can be airlifted

    ... so our S-400 was transferred to Turkey. Through the air. So C-400 - a lightweight, almost pocket-sized, Pe-Be-O system
  21. ROSS_51
    ROSS_51 22 September 2019 21: 28
    +1
    Quote: Ken71
    He even has a chance in a battle with MBT. The Octopus has much less. Although the crew of Octopus will not climb.

    Who? Have a layout?
  22. EDWARD
    EDWARD 22 September 2019 22: 46
    -1
    looks like squeezed lemon)
  23. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 22 September 2019 23: 20
    -2
    And that the United States has a lot of aircraft capable of lifting 38 tons into the air?
  24. ustas-oto
    ustas-oto 22 September 2019 23: 30
    -2
    And not the high profile of this "coffin". Abrams burned from RPG-7, little is known about this miracle. A cheap version of Abrams for the poor, or stupid as you like.
  25. bukhach
    bukhach 23 September 2019 01: 11
    +2
    There was a time when they put a cross on light tanks and they returned.
    1. Mytholog
      Mytholog 23 September 2019 09: 54
      0
      Excuse me, do you really think that the 38t at the design stage is an EASY tank? )
    2. Grits
      Grits 23 September 2019 15: 47
      0
      Quote: Buhach
      There was a time when they put a cross on light tanks and they returned.

      I will not be surprised that over time the gradation will reappear - LT, ST, TT.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 23 September 2019 19: 34
        0
        I won’t be surprised that over time the gradation will reappear - LT, ST, TT ......... forgot the wedges
  26. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 23 September 2019 02: 44
    0
    Somehow LT and 120 mm do not fit !!! ???
  27. Mytholog
    Mytholog 23 September 2019 09: 53
    0
    From the point of view of the manufacturer - everything is clear. It’s not clear why the Pentagon needs it? After all, there is already a Striker already mastered in production in many modifications. What prevents to put 120mm on it? There have already been analogs.
  28. Shuttle
    Shuttle 23 September 2019 15: 00
    +1
    The American company General Dynamics introduced a new concept of a light tank. The presentation took place at the exhibition of promising weapons of the US Marine Corps.

    When did you introduce it?
    Here is the vidos from 03.10.16. Almost three years ago ...

    What is the article about? What new gun or armor?
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 24 September 2019 13: 23
      +1
      something that is more and more reminiscent of the story with the PL-01 foam supertank ... request