Ten sappers of the Kazakh army were injured during mine clearance

Military personnel contracted by the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan were injured as a result of spontaneous detonation of ammunition at one of the military training grounds. This was reported by the press service of the Kazakh Ministry of Defense.

According to a popular report, on September 21 at a military training ground during planned demolition work, for some unknown reason, ammunition self-detonated. As a result of the explosion, ten servicemen-sappers were injured, who were urgently taken to the field hospital of the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan.

On September 21, during planned demolition work on the territory of a specially equipped training ground (60 kilometers from the city of Arys), a spontaneous detonation of an ammunition fragment occurred. As a result of 10 specially trained sappers, contract soldiers received shrapnel wounds

- said in a statement.

The military department of Kazakhstan emphasized that all necessary medical assistance is provided to the victims, a special commission was sent to the scene of the incident, which will deal with the clarification of all the circumstances of the incident.

Note that this incident is not the first in this area, earlier, on 14 of September, four soldiers of the Kazakh army were injured while clearing former ammunition depots. All of them were delivered to the Clinical Hospital of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

Recall that on June 24 of this year, a fire broke out in military depots located near the city of Arys, during which ammunition began to break. Three became victims of state of emergency: one civilian and two military. Residents of the city were evacuated.

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[Mavrikiy]

Military personnel contracted by the Armed Forces of Kazakhstan were injured as a result of spontaneous detonation of ammunition at one of the military training grounds. This was reported by the press service of the Kazakh Ministry of Defense.

For one broken, two not broken give.

[Nycomed]

A little comfort.

[Thrifty]

Well what happened without lethal outcomes

[Nycomed]

Of course it’s good, but what's next?

[Vadim T.]

It seemed that the sappers were trying to defuse the old ammunition, and from detonation it detonated.
Guys - a speedy recovery and return to duty.

[Nycomed]

The children, of course - a speedy recovery! What about the rest of the ammunition?

[Rwmos]

It looks like the sappers tried to defuse the old ammunition

Ten, a bunch? How is that?

[Severok]

The most likely option is that the sappers went on a chain during the clearance of a site in the area in the region of the expansion of fragments and other objects after a fire in ammunition depots. In this case, with a detonation of ammunition, a long chain of military personnel may be affected.
The probable cause of detonation is an external effect, which could be insignificant, but sufficient for the operation of an ammunition subjected to thermal and physical loads.

[Rwmos]

I thought so too. There, in the text, a "fragment of ammunition" exploded ...

[odometer]

"... a specially equipped landfill ..."

[Amateur]

Is it still clearing the remnants of the exploding warehouses near Arys?
But!

[Doliva63]

Quote: Amateur

Is it still clearing the remnants of the exploding warehouses near Arys?
But!

It was once taught that if an ammunition just suddenly fell from a height of 1 m, it cannot be "demined", only destroyed. Those b / p that remained there were no less affected. I don't understand the sappers.

[Semurg]

Yes, they destroyed everything and stole the tochnik, as until now everything had not collapsed without the guys from Syzran. You are trying in any topic to trample on non-Russians, who are, well, stupid in your opinion or precisely in the topics where it is written about those who died in the performance of their military duty. You will like it if in the news about the clashed Russian Su 34 and the dead pilots, non-Russians will begin to write that according to the German, guys from Dortmund Russians always go drunk at work.

[Vadim02rus]

1.

all ruined and stole

And what not?
2.

as soon as everything has not collapsed without the guys from Syzran

And there is. Not specifically because of them. Turks, Indians, Germans are building. The French came to do "Sergek". The French left, it turned out that they did not know how to use, they did not know how) There are a lot of examples. The Russians never dreamed of nepotism and corruption.
3.

You are trying to trample on any topic in non-Russian

Hex and slander of pure water.
4.

topics where it is written about those killed in the performance of their military duty

Is someone dead? I once stood up here for the Albanian girls deminers who died during mine clearance, were muzzled. Didn't you minus, no?
5.

You will like it if in the news about the clashed Russian Su 34 and the dead pilots, non-Russians will begin to write that according to the German, guys from Dortmund Russians always go drunk at work.

Do not like it. Nevertheless, Russians get drunk at work quite often, this is a fact. And from my "dislikes" they will not become teetotalers.

[Semurg]

After nepotism and corruption in Kazakhstan, which the Russians did not even dream about, are you not funny? Or maybe they don’t drive St. Petersburg in the Russian Federation due to nepotism and not at the colonels of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the FSB of the Russian Federation find apartments full of money, but the governors of the wife and children are all the time outstanding businessmen. At the expense of drunkenness, this is the same cliche about the Russians, as is your cliche that the Kazakhs are, well, stupid and pathological thieves.

[Vadim02rus]

After nepotism and corruption in Kazakhstan, which the Russians did not even dream about, are you not funny?

Let's laugh together? At least the entire post-Soviet space was laughing over the last "fair" elections and the renaming of Astana to Nur-Sultan. Where else can you see such a circus.
Let's not dig deep. Take Daddy's family as an example:

"Brother - Satybaldy Nazarbayev (1947-1981). His sons - Kairat (born 1970) - Major General, President of the Association of National Sports, Chairman of the Ak Orda" RPO, President of the Charitable Foundations "Hairat" and "Duniye" and Samat (born 1978) - Major General, First Deputy Chairman of the National Security Committee of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
Brother - Bulat Nazarbayev (born 1953). He was married several times. Among the wives are singer Madina Eralieva (1954-2000) and entrepreneur Mayra Kurmangalieva. His children are the deputy chief of the Department of Internal Affairs of the Almaty region, police colonel Nurbol Nazarbayev and chairman of the Karasai district court Gulmira Abisheva.
Sister - Anipa Nazarbayeva - entrepreneur, honorary member of the Association of Business Women of the Almaty region.
Wife - Nazarbayeva Sara Alpysovna - engineer-economist. He currently heads the International Children's Charity Fund "Bөbek" ("Kid").
Nazarbayev has three daughters:
Dariga (born 1963) - Doctor of Political Sciences, Chairman of the Senate of the Parliament of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Divorced (ex-husband - R. M. Aliyev); Her eldest son, Nurali Aliyev (born 1985), served as chairman of the board of directors of Nurbank JSC, vice president of Kazakhstan Development Bank JSC, and deputy mayor of the mountains. Astana married to Aida Imasheva, daughter of the chairman of the Central Election Commission of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Berik Imashev. Second son Aisultan Nazarbayev (born 1990), football player, contender for the post of head of the Football Federation of Kazakhstan; married to Alima Boranbaeva - daughter of businessman Kairat Boranbaev
Dinara (born 1967) is led by the N. A. Nazarbayev Education Fund, a major shareholder in the People's Bank of Kazakhstan. The richest woman in Kazakhstan. Married to Timur Kulibayev.
Aliya (born 1980) is engaged in business, runs the construction company "Elitstroy", film producer. Her third husband is Dosanov Dimash Gabitovich, President of KazTransOil JSC. "

At the expense of drunkenness, this is the same cliche about Russian

Alas and ah. I would really like that to be different. But.....

your cliche that Kazakhs are stupid and pathological thieves

I wonder where I said that? Can I quote?

[Vadim02rus]

Well, you didn’t say it, but the mythical kid from Syzran, you only completely agree with this, if you forgive this in the subject of the affected sappers of Kazakhstan.

I am quite old roofing felts, toli dumb, or blind. But I do not see the phrase "stupid Kazakhs" there. This is the essence of your claims, isn't it? Or has RK become a mono-ethnic state? I understand, of course, that now among the "correct Kazakhs" it is customary to call Kazakhstan - Kazakh Eli, or write on machines, something like ".. who does not know the language, either a guest or an accountant ..".

At the expense of the sheet about Nazarbayev’s relatives, in response to me, should I post a sheet about the St. Petersburg clan and their achievements?

Well, if it’s not difficult for you to back up your blah blah blah with at least some facts, I will be incredibly grateful to you Maybe I’ll at least recognize such a clan.

At the expense of drinking take statistics on alcohol consumption per capita of the strong and weak

Why the hell, sorry, I have your statistics. It's not about who is the first, who is the second. It's about thumping without leaving the workplace. Go into any ATP, a sober locksmith is almost moviton. Or in some sort of working area, a provincial town, Central Russian highlands. Lack of money, devastation and hard drinking. Your statistics do not even know about the existence of these people.

[Vadim02rus]

It also happens. But more often the opposite. The commander came across as ideal subordinates of the wrong orientation. Atu him, atu.

[brr1]

Quote: Vadim02rus

It also happens. But more often the opposite. The commander came across as ideal subordinates of the wrong orientation. Atu him, atu.

More often, because the ratio of subordinates and superiors is always not in favor of the latter. But in general, this is a flawed way of thinking people trying to give an acceptable explanation of their unacceptable actions.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

It’s good that everyone is alive, and the victims, a speedy recovery.

[Chaldon48]

They are lucky to have survived.

[Nycomed]

Are they lucky and others are lucky?

[Chaldon48]

But in life it’s always like that, haven’t you noticed?

[Evil 55]

a chain of 10 people along the way or something unloaded ... again, non-compliance with safety requirements is the main reason for the bombings.

[awg75]

as I understand it, nine studied, one taught. to this one, you need to pull out your hands and insert in the ass. there he has a place for them.

[Doliva63]

Quote: awg75

as I understand it, nine studied, one taught. to this one, you need to pull out your hands and insert in the ass. there he has a place for them.

OZM-72 was once studied at neighbors - more than a dozen corpses. Here it is not necessary to pull out your hands (it is already too late), but the brain "to heal" at the cadet age.

[Ali Kokand]

With all reverence to the neighbors, and sorry for those who suffered, but still ... How are the instructions for servicing the explosives? Are there people with tolerances or not? The procedures since the days of the USSR have been worked out for a long time? I hope to draw conclusions.

[Chaldon48]

In Kazakhstan, now more instructions from the US are respected, so they run into "troubles".

[Saxahorse]

Strange as that .. What kind of ammunition is this? They didn’t defuse a bomb with ten of them? What the hell was that when they stood in a bunch. I can’t imagine what it was.

[Semurg]

There were a lot of things in the warehouses that could be the warhead from the MLRS or 120 mines or a shell. I don’t know about the bombs they were in Arys or not. Well, and probably there were probably violations of instructions when carrying out such work. The sappers are sure to recover and will be rewarded for their work, especially in the 45-48 degree heat in the month of July for the collection and disposal of scattered ammunition. The Minister of Defense flew from our post and a number of generals and colonels at lower ranks. According to the results of the analysis of the explosion in Arys, and generally the beginning warehouses and the beginning garrison, it is necessary not to dismiss but to plant negligence for a minimum.

[odometer]

The Minister did not fly anywhere, but received a penalty ...

[Vadim02rus]

The Minister did not fly anywhere, but received a penalty ...

Do not ruin a person’s ideal world.

[romb]

Zhasuzakov S.A. - On August 7, 2019, he was relieved of his post as Minister of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Officially, in connection with the transfer to another job. In reality - because of the emergency in Arys.

[Vadim02rus]

Zhasuzakov S.A. - On August 7, 2019, he was relieved of his post as Minister of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan. Officially, in connection with the transfer to another job. In reality - because of the emergency in Arys.

Ermekbaev, Nurlan Bayuzakovich
In early August 2018, he was appointed Minister of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan.
In your opinion, in August 2019, there were two Defense Ministers in the Republic of Kazakhstan. A WONDERFUL country, however.

[romb]

I apologize, a little confused. Years of care. But if you look at the root, it turns out that precisely because of numerous systematic miscalculations, this ex-minister was later dismissed from the ranks of the Armed Forces system. What is clearly not good for such a person.
Therefore, it is very difficult to say that he did not bear responsibility.

[Vadim02rus]

I do not quite understand from which series of which system he was fired?

"On August 7, 2018, by order of the President of Kazakhstan, he was appointed head of the National Defense University named after the First President of the Republic of Kazakhstan."

[romb]

7 August 2019. By a decree of the head of state for the improper fulfillment of his duties and serious omissions in ensuring the safety and security of weapons and ammunition, the implementation of the Program for the relocation and arrangement of weapons and ammunition storage facilities, which entailed an explosion of ammunition in a military unit in the city of Arys and large-scale destruction in the city with casualties, the former Minister of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Zhasuzakov Saken Adilkhanovich, was dismissed from the system of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

[Vadim02rus]

Ahhhh. Read thanks
Well, this of course changes things. For a year now, as a new Minister, he has been steering, and the former has been fired. It was also necessary for the penultimate at the same time, cho really trifle then.
Big Top.

[romb]

In this case, both the ex and the current ones were responsible for the omissions. So, everything is right here. And it’s better that way than nothing at all. Especially when you consider that there, at that time, and even somewhere in places, there was still a temperature of fifty degrees in the shade. Which obviously did not make the work of mine clearance easy. And the fact that in this difficult situation the sappers did with scattered tens of thousands of explosives quickly and efficiently, I consider a real indicator of professionalism.

[romb]

Both of these events occurred on the same day. Only with a difference of one year.

[odometer]

Colonel General Zhasuzakov S.A. -A combat officer, with two academic entities. To write about reality in the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan ... It is necessary to see this reality not through the prism of the media.

[romb]

So no one speaks negative about his service in the Musbat. Here the question is rather administrative-political. I needed an extreme one for this incident. So he was appointed.

[Vladimir]

And what is there to imagine, one worked and the rest stood nearby and advised how best to do.

[georggy]

The sapper makes a mistake once.

[NF68]

Thank God that even so, everything without sacrifice was done.