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A snapshot appeared with extended Iskander-M launchers

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The network published a snapshot of the launchers of the Iskander-M operational-tactical missile systems at the Kapustin Yar training ground. It would seem that nothing is noticeable in the launchers of the Russian OTRK. However, not in this case.




It is noted that the launchers have a length that is about a meter longer than the standard for 978-1.

This gives reason to assume that the installations at the Kapustin Yar training ground are designed to launch the latest Russian 9M729 missiles - the very ones that the Americans declared allegedly violating the INF Treaty (the Intermediate-Range Missile Treaty). Apparently, these are new launchers for the rearmament of the Kursk missile brigade.

A snapshot appeared with extended Iskander-M launchers


Recall that a few months ago the United States announced its withdrawal from the INF Treaty, mentioning 9М729 as an occasion. In Washington, they said that the flight range of this missile allegedly exceeds 500 km. Then the Americans tried to argue their words with the fact that the launch containers became approximately 53 cm larger.

The Russian Ministry of Defense organized a special briefing with a demonstration of the latest rocket. At a briefing, it was noted that the launch containers had indeed added in length, but the length was not increased at all because of the rocket's fuel compartment. In addition, it was noted that the mass of fuel in the 9М729 did not change, but the warhead of the cruise missile changed.

From the statement of the representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at the briefing:
The mass of the rocket increased, but the mass of fuel did not change. In this case, all the accusations that the rocket supposedly gets a longer range are not substantive. Due to the general increase in mass, it even slightly decreased its range - by 10 km: now they are 480 km.

At the same time, the USA did not send their representatives to that briefing.

After the publication of images with launchers extended in length, individual conspiracy theorists reiterated that “long range missiles” were installed on Iskander-M in comparison with previous modifications.

On the eve of the Defense Ministry and the Zvezda shopping center, they showed footage of the use of the Iskander-M OTRK cruise missile during the exercise:

Photos used:
https://twitter.com/rickrodan, Минобороны РФ
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 21 September 2019 10: 58
    +19
    King size from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation smile good
    1. figwam
      figwam 21 September 2019 11: 20
      +9
      Whoever is longer will win.)
      1. Rwmos
        Rwmos 21 September 2019 11: 44
        +10
        Then the next Iskander must be ordered from Tseriteli - and the mattresses have no chance
      2. Victor_B
        Victor_B 21 September 2019 11: 59
        +2
        Quote: figvam
        Whoever is longer will win.)

        And if longer and even thicker!
        Relax the buns!
      3. loki565
        loki565 21 September 2019 16: 54
        +2
        Yeah, whose captain is longer)))
        1. Polkanov
          Polkanov 22 September 2019 15: 27
          -2
          ...child. In short, only you ...
    2. Sarmat Sanych
      Sarmat Sanych 21 September 2019 11: 54
      +5
      "Don't brake - snickersney" at 2000 kmlaughing!
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 September 2019 11: 04
    +9
    Yes now what? It would be HEALTHY if Iskander added a thousand to the range. Right away, bam, and all of NATO is within reach. tongue it is a pity that these are only "Wishlist" ...
    1. Nikalab
      Nikalab 21 September 2019 11: 09
      +5
      And where did you get the idea that they can’t? Caliber possessing similar dimensions for 1500 km allowed in Syria.
      1. K-50
        K-50 21 September 2019 13: 49
        +4
        Quote: Nikalab
        And where did you get the idea that they can’t? Caliber possessing similar dimensions for 1500 km allowed in Syria.

        Different rocket speeds, the slow one will fly away further, but it’s easier to bring down and vice versa, the fast one is not far, but it is much more difficult to intercept. Therefore, they choose a compromise. There are no miracles in technology, because physics is against.
        1. Nikalab
          Nikalab 21 September 2019 15: 16
          -1
          Different rocket speeds

          What are these speeds? There and there subsonic flight speed.
          1. K-50
            K-50 21 September 2019 15: 17
            +1
            Quote: Nikalab
            What are these speeds? There and there subsonic flight speed.

            Iskander is by no means subsonic, learn materiel. hi
            1. Nikalab
              Nikalab 21 September 2019 15: 22
              +6
              You are confusing Iskander-M with a 9M723 ballistic missile and Iskander-K with 9M729 cruise missiles. These are different complexes on one base.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 21 September 2019 11: 36
      +5
      I really hope that it is so. What if our MO still "darkens"? The agreement is all, kirdyk.
    3. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 21 September 2019 12: 04
      +4
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yes now what?

      And now for anything. There is no more agreement. You can do any range. I think soon the Iskanders will fly where further and see the Gauges not only in the Marine and air versions, but also on the chassis.
  3. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 21 September 2019 11: 09
    +9
    At the same time, the USA did not send their representatives to that briefing.

    And they have such tactics, unfounded accusations and completely ignoring the opponent’s arguments
  4. Nycomed
    Nycomed 21 September 2019 11: 46
    +2
    "How many wolves do not feed, but the bear does not care, it is thicker"
    Popular saying.
  5. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 September 2019 11: 54
    +4
    Well, if the launcher is longer, then, according to anyone., A longer missile can be put and carried. And longer is the fuel part or warhead, what's the difference? I think, and long BR soon we will see.
  6. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 11: 57
    +4
    And now something to make excuses for. What a difference the adversary. There is no contract.
    1. knn54
      knn54 21 September 2019 12: 44
      0
      "Why are you looking at the speck in your brother's eye, but you don’t feel the log in your eye ... Hypocrite! First take the log out of your eye, and then you will see how to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."
      One of the commandments of Jesus Christ.
  7. demo
    demo 21 September 2019 12: 29
    0
    Shustrenko went like that.
    Sure.
  8. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 21 September 2019 12: 34
    +4
    How did you determine that they are a full meter longer? Traffic cops, in the event of an accident with tape measures and rulers, run around in order to deduce a certain scale and "tie" to the terrain ... And in this case, what, what for? With what to compare, the length of the launchers in the picture? Or option one - take my word for it?
    1. Amateur
      Amateur 21 September 2019 13: 08
      0
      Or is there one option - take your word for it?

      Gentlemen are believed "at their word". After that, Vasil Ivanych, the map flooded me. (Petka)
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 21 September 2019 12: 35
    -16
    For these missiles, Russia should curse Russia, not the United States.
    America felt that she could not do without China against BR
    medium range. But the contract with Russia prevented their production.
    But then the Kremlin unexpectedly "played along" with the Pentagon: it began to deploy
    land gauges on Iskander tractors. Thought - will not notice.
    The Americans took a picture and joyfully withdrew from the treaty.
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 21 September 2019 12: 38
      +3
      Generally a strange treaty. All and sundry did such missiles and the United States and Russia lowering. The final is logical
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 21 September 2019 14: 31
      0
      Why curse China? He has a large arsenal of BRD. For a long time no one would tolerate him "in one gate". Specifically, the United States already has a large arsenal of KRSD and air bases at sea alongside carriers of the CD of all stripes. And they have a bunch of MRBMs on nuclear submarines. Probably, this arsenal is already lacking in China and in the Russian Federation as a whole ...., but where can we do more carriers ?!
    3. The comment was deleted.
  10. Pavel57
    Pavel57 21 September 2019 12: 44
    0
    Half a meter from the old warhead half a kilometer km. will add. Just need to experience.)))
  11. Amateur
    Amateur 21 September 2019 13: 05
    0
    Quote: RWMos
    Iskander must be ordered from Tseriteli

    Tsereteli recalled Columbus to the Americans. And they didn't take him. Then Zurab Konstantinovich quickly made him a new head and persuaded his friend Luzhkov to put him in Moscow to frighten the people. So "Iskander cannot be ordered from Tsereteli. The result is unpredictable. stop
  12. Evil 55
    Evil 55 21 September 2019 13: 20
    0
    2 "wings" on one launcher is not the limit yet .. R&D is underway, experiments and launches are underway, so we are waiting for new products from the domestic military-industrial complex ..
  13. axiles100682
    axiles100682 21 September 2019 13: 28
    0
    To whom everyone needs to understand everything. Not only the Americans were preparing to leave the INF Treaty, but ours knew that sooner or later the Americans would withdraw from this treaty.
  14. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 21 September 2019 13: 44
    0
    It’s just that she’d be seen as a constructor, if the pendants had not left the RSMD, ours would not have added the extra 53 cm of the start-up pipe sector, but they would show off, add 106 cm, and so on, depending on the greyhound and the pend’s behavior laughing
  15. Hog
    Hog 21 September 2019 13: 57
    0
    The increase in length can just as well speak of an increase in the warhead, so all these guesses are written with a pitchfork in the water.
  16. Xenofont
    Xenofont 21 September 2019 17: 04
    +1
    No-and-and-what I did not understand! It seems to be Iskander-K. Cruise missile with TT accelerator. Oh, confusion! We mystify the enemy?
  17. Karabas
    Karabas 21 September 2019 18: 35
    +1
    The rocket engines work well, smoothly, like clockwork smile Designers respect and respect.
  18. Old26
    Old26 21 September 2019 18: 55
    +5
    Quote: Nikalab
    You are confusing Iskander-M with a 9M723 ballistic missile and Iskander-K with 9M729 cruise missiles. These are different complexes on one base.

    In general, the Iskander-K complex does not exist in nature. There was the Iskander complex and now the Iskander-M complex
    A clean Iskander could only launch ballistic missiles with a 9M723 missile unit. Iskander-M, in addition to a ballistic missile, can also launch R-500 missiles, known as 9M728

    Quote: Lipchanin
    At the same time, the USA did not send their representatives to that briefing.

    And they have such tactics, unfounded accusations and completely ignoring the opponent’s arguments

    To be honest, our briefing was so toothless that it would be better if it had not been held. What, no cutting so that you can show?

    Quote: Zaurbek
    Well, if the launcher is longer, then, according to anyone., A longer missile can be put and carried. And longer is the fuel part or warhead, what's the difference? I think, and long BR soon we will see.

    If we say that the launcher is longer based on the second photo, which shows four sheathed installations, then such an analysis is worthless. When transporting 9P78-1 launchers, measures are taken to misinform the enemy and use devices to make it impossible to determine what is presented.
    The photo shows "reinforcement", which is attached in front of the cab and designed to distort the dimensions of the product under the tarpaulin



    The first and second photographs clearly show this "armature" on the standard Iskander SPU, and the third photograph shows a deformed object, the dimensions of which, all the more, from above can be determined only if there is an uncovered launcher next to it.

    And even on a standard Iskander SPU, a TPK with 9M729 can in principle be placed. The length of the ballistic missile is about 7,28 m, the length of the TPK with the 9M728 is 7,4 meters, the length of the TPK with the 9M729 is 7,93. Payload compartment on SPU 9P78-1 - approximately 8,4-8,5 m

    Quote: Evil 55
    2 "wings" on one launcher is not the limit yet .. R&D is underway, experiments and launches are underway, so we are waiting for new products from the domestic military-industrial complex ..

    On SPU 9P78-1 2 TPK with KR - this is the limit. For 4-6 TPK with KR, another launch will be required, demonstrated at a briefing
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 22 September 2019 09: 47
      0
      Quote: Old26
      are based on the second photograph, which shows four sheathed installations, then the analysis is worthless.


      Fiercely plus you, dear!
  19. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 22 September 2019 12: 14
    0
    Quote: voyaka uh
    For these missiles, Russia should curse Russia, not the United States.
    America felt that she could not do without China against BR
    medium range. But the contract with Russia prevented their production.
    But then the Kremlin unexpectedly "played along" with the Pentagon: it began to deploy
    land gauges on Iskander tractors. Thought - will not notice.
    The Americans took a picture and joyfully withdrew from the treaty.

    They rejoiced too early. Looking for a reason. Not found, but invented. To justify that they themselves have been practicing for several years on their island. After a WEEK they tested their car. This is what speed you need to plow in order to design, manufacture and drag your own to the landfill? Do not try to wash your master's ass. It humiliates you. Although, for 2000 years, apparently used to it.
  20. Old26
    Old26 22 September 2019 13: 26
    +2
    Quote: Vkd dvk
    To justify that they themselves have been practicing for several years on their island.

    Development was not prohibited under the terms of the contract. It was forbidden to test, deploy, arming.
    Did you spend a week later? Do you seriously think you plowed like "Papa Carlo"? A conventional naval cruise missile was taken. Half of the ground launcher taken. Loaded into the ground version of the PU and checked