Ukraine resumes the construction of 58250 project corvettes

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Ukraine decided to resume the state program for the construction of a series of corvettes of the 58250 project. The corresponding order was given by the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky. It is reported ArmyInform with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

Ukraine resumes the construction of 58250 project corvettes




According to the Ukrainian edition, today an indicative schedule for the restoration of design and construction work of the program has already been developed, providing for the completion of the lead ship of the series - the corvette "Vladimir the Great". It is planned to be transferred to the Ukrainian Navy before the end of the 2023 year. The cost of completion is 7,7 billion hryvnia. According to the results of the construction of the first ship, the cost and construction time of the remaining three series corvettes will be determined.

Today, the readiness of the corps of the corps "Vladimir the Great" is 80%, the total readiness of the ship is 32%. The corvette is being built at the Black Sea Shipbuilding Plant, but the transfer of its construction to the Nikolaev Shipyard is being considered.

The program for the construction of four ships of the Corvette class of the 58250 project started in the 2011 year and was calculated before the 2021 year. In 2014, after the Maidan coup, the program was closed, since all funds were aimed at repelling "Russian aggression."

In 2016, 7 sections and a superstructure were ready on the head corvette. According to the commander of the Naval Forces of Ukraine Voronchenko, 5 billion hryvnias were needed to complete the construction of the ship.

Gun mounts are ready, the turbine is in Nikolaev, diesel engines for the power system are ready in the USA. A very successful project. In terms of functionality, it is practically not inferior to NATO ships of this class. The cost of completing the project is about 5 billion UAH

he declared then.

The 58250 corvette project was developed by the "Research Design Center for Shipbuilding" in Nikolaev.

General characteristics:

Length, maximum - 112 m, breadth, maximum - 13,5 m, draft - 3,5 m, displacement, full - 2650 t, autonomy - 30 days, crew - 110 people, speed - 30 knots, cruising range - 4000 miles (14 knots .)

Radio engineering means: 3D radar for detecting surface and long-range air targets, 3D radar for detecting surface and long-range targets at medium range, ACS combat operations, radar for long-range horizontal target designation for switchgear, AU radar control system, Optoelectronic control system for AU, submarine ASU and towed HAS with an extended antenna, RTO and EW system

Armament: 2x4 anti-ship missiles, medium-range air defense systems, Artillery: 1x1 76-mm AU, 2x6 35-mm AU, 12,7 mm machine guns, jamming launchers, torpedo tubes - 2х3-mm XMUMXnum xnUMXnum mass-X
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  1. 0
    20 September 2019 16: 38
    Well, maybe one will be built purely for PR, so to speak, Svidomo throw a bone and deal with the end.
    1. +14
      20 September 2019 16: 45
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      Well, maybe one will be built purely for PR, so to speak, Svidomo throw a bone and deal with the end.

      Perhaps they will complete it, in cooperation with the owner of the tin ... what will they arm? Which PLO? What kind of air defense? What could be from Ukrainian electronics there ??? Plug and socket ...
      1. +6
        20 September 2019 16: 53
        Yes, it’s not so important, it’s important to master the budget, and it is not in vain that Kiev in the budget for 2020 laid a record amount of ten yards of dollars for defense.
        1. +5
          20 September 2019 18: 54
          Etozh another three years, you can suck money from the budget, and then say - sorry, nothing happened. So the questions about the air defense systems and anti-ship missiles are generally ridiculous. Such stupid things and to bother with a head preoccupied with the question of how to snatch more and shed away?
        2. +5
          20 September 2019 19: 02
          Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
          not for nothing that Kiev in the budget for 2020 laid a record amount of ten yards of dollars for defense.

          There will be something to steal, then.
      2. -3
        20 September 2019 16: 58
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Perhaps completed, in cooperation with the owner of the tin.

        Well so there the engine lies ready
        diesel engines for the power system are ready in the USA.

        As soon as they deliver them to the outskirts.
        1. +2
          20 September 2019 20: 24
          across the black sea)))
          1. +1
            20 September 2019 20: 26
            Quote: Adimius38
            across the black sea)))

            Through the Azov laughing
            1. +5
              20 September 2019 20: 31
              Well, actually, Nikolaev and Odessa have nothing to do with the Sea of ​​Azov))) so it’s straight
              1. +2
                20 September 2019 20: 33
                Quote: Adimius38
                so straight

                Nah, a call is needed. Pass under the bridge laughing
      3. +2
        20 September 2019 17: 00
        The plug and socket are more likely Chinese or Turkish. And as for arms, they’ll make it fit, there is no doubt about it.
      4. +6
        20 September 2019 17: 02
        Quote: ANIMAL
        What kind of air defense? What could be from Ukrainian electronics there ???

        The Telaviv region of Ukraine still has some autonomy, where the whole industry has survived - they will ... not expensive. Inexpensive? is it true?
        1. +1
          20 September 2019 18: 55
          Tell us what survived in the banderland from Soviet electronics?
          1. 0
            21 September 2019 15: 27
            was calculated until 2021. In 2014, after the Maidan coup, the program was closed, since all funds were directed to repel "Russian aggression."
            I don’t understand, the aggressor is defeated, and in the Pacific Ocean they finished their campaign? feel From 14 to 19 years. the bacilli beat. the corvettes will receive 26 g at best, if they don’t want to shoot again.
      5. +7
        20 September 2019 19: 08
        Quote: ANIMAL
        Perhaps they will complete it, in cooperation with the owner of the tin ...

        ===========
        The question is - WHERE (will they finish building) ??? According to information (from Ukrainian friends), all 3 Nikolaev shipyards (61 Kommunara, ChSZ and "Ocean") - BANKRUPTS and property are being sold ...
        Corvettes were built, sort of like in the Black Sea NW .... The readiness of 2 units last year was oku 85% (according to the press) .......
        1. O22
          0
          21 September 2019 11: 52
          It seems like a smart person! What is bankruptcy in us and in you? The transition from state to private ownership and all.
          1. 0
            22 September 2019 17: 54
            Quote: O22
            What is bankruptcy in us and in you? The transition from state to private ownership and all.

            =======
            You are kind of a literate person! It is written - "the property is FOR SALE" !!!
            In general, there are 2 main possible bankruptcy scenarios:
            1) change of ownership;
            2) liquidation of a business entity
            Well, the possible variations between the two .....
        2. -1
          21 September 2019 16: 18
          Here the question is not even whether bankrupt or not. These are just pieces of paper, today declared bankrupt. Canceled tomorrow. The problem is that all the locksmiths - shipbuilders, welders, etc., in Gdansk, at Polish shipyards and returning them from there is very problematic. Will people want to quit work there, so that no one knows how long to work here, and then again sit without work? Again - how much will they pay? After the Polish salaries, the Bandera salaries cause some irritation.
      6. +3
        20 September 2019 19: 13
        Actually, in Ukraine the industrial potential was developed, and if you wish, financing is possible.
      7. +3
        20 September 2019 20: 01
        Quote: ANIMAL
        what will they arm?

        what they were going to ..... completely weapons from Europe
    2. +4
      20 September 2019 16: 59
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      Well, maybe one will be built purely for PR, so to speak, Svidomo throw a bone and deal with the end.

      Where are you going to build? Nikolaev will not pull.
      1. +6
        20 September 2019 17: 57
        Quote: Piramidon
        Where are you going to build? Nikolaev will not pull.

        How many years does the unfinished cruiser "Ukraine" cost? The same number will be built and the corvette. Boats cannot be built, but will be purchased in France. The corvette has already been tortured since 2011, and most likely both the plant and the corvette have been plundered because they want to drag it from Chernomorka to Nikolaevsky. Maybe there are specialists from Nikolaev, tell me.
        1. +5
          20 September 2019 20: 29
          not such a long period of 8 years for a corvette for countries such as Ukraine. In neighboring Russia, the frigate of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov. The ship was built for more than twelve years - and this was almost a record shipbuilding long-term construction in modern Russian history. And what is far gone from Ukraine ???? ONLY THAT TAKES IT WITH OUTSIDE HAND AND RUSSIA Having oil, gas and huge leverage to squeeze money out of the population, the frigate will build more than twelve years
          1. +7
            20 September 2019 21: 04
            Only Russia at the same time with the construction of the installation (pre-production) frigate completely replaced the imported components with its own!
            Often for this, creating production cycles from scratch! Yes
            Now we bake everything on a conveyor belt (especially very toothy "dogs") laughing
          2. 0
            21 September 2019 11: 53
            Quote: Adimius38
            The ship was built for more than twelve years

            Actually, not 12 years - the construction itself took 9 years. The rest of the time until it was commissioned, he went to the test.
          3. 0
            23 September 2019 10: 38
            Quote: Adimius38
            In neighboring Russia, the frigate of project 22350 Admiral Gorshkov. The ship was built for more than twelve years - and this was almost a record shipbuilding long-term construction in modern Russian history.

            So 3/4 of this time was spent on fine-tuning the new air defense system and its control system. And this is normal - it is enough to recall the epic of the Soviet era with the Kinzhal air defense missile system: tests began in 1982, entered service in 1989. The production of the complex went with such difficulty that the new BOD pr. 1155 surrendered either with half of the air defense system, or no air defense system at all.
            And the Ukrainian corvette is supposed to be equipped with already developed weapon systems. And at the same time build 8 years.
    3. -18
      20 September 2019 18: 04
      Well yes it's like Su 57.
  2. +8
    20 September 2019 16: 38
    providing for the completion of the lead ship of the series - the corvette "Vladimir the Great"

    Russian Grand Duke.
    How so? request

    Who is next, Dmitry Donskoy, Alexander Nevsky, or Sergius of Radonezh?

    Who really was Ukrainian? wassat

    Zelensky, make Russian people laugh with "Ukrainian" heroes. Shine with your mind.
    Or as Stirlitz used to say when putting a pistol into a cabaret:
    - brainwash. laughing
    1. +10
      20 September 2019 16: 40
      That's good, but I'm afraid they will upset the prince, they will not build it. lol
      1. +12
        20 September 2019 16: 55
        It is fitting for them to name their vessels in accordance with the "new trends", for example: "Big heap", "Pimpled yusch", "Poured gunpowder". lol
        1. +4
          20 September 2019 16: 57
          So there are none, there is nothing to bring in line.
    2. +7
      20 September 2019 16: 57
      Quote: Vladimir16
      providing for the completion of the lead ship of the series - the corvette "Vladimir the Great"

      Russian Grand Duke.
      How so? request

      Who is next, Dmitry Donskoy, Alexander Nevsky, or Sergius of Radonezh?

      Who really was Ukrainian? wassat

      Zelensky, make Russian people laugh with "Ukrainian" heroes. Shine with your mind.
      Or as Stirlitz used to say when putting a pistol into a cabaret:
      - brainwash. laughing

      In Ukrainian historiography, all the Old Russian princes, whose activities fell on the political dawn of Rus in Kiev, automatically, these are Ukrainians. As soon as the center for political decision-making has shifted to the North-East of Russia, the children of these princes are no longer Ukrainians.
      Any resident who met 1991 for a year in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR automatically became not just citizens of Ukraine, but Ukrainians, even long before the formation of their political consciousness. This rule also works for those people who went down in history before the 1991 year, but who lived in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR or in the provinces of Little Russia and New Russia. For example, Igor Sikorsky (who considered himself a Russian emigrant to the USA), Sergey Korolev, Poddubny, etc. Except that Gogol was pointedly abandoned by Bulgakov, everyone understands why. Thus, if a person during his life clearly and publicly did not identify himself as Russian, then he will be recorded in the Ukrainians.
      1. 0
        20 September 2019 19: 31
        I wonder what N.V. Gogol did not please them?
        1. -1
          20 September 2019 21: 14
          Quote: Astra wild
          I wonder what N.V. Gogol did not please them?

          we did not refuse him.
          Since he - no one described the Ukrainian lands of those times (especially his native Poltava region)
          1. +1
            21 September 2019 03: 16
            Just rewrote Taras Bulba. He was dying for Russian land!
          2. +1
            21 September 2019 08: 52
            Quote: Antares
            Quote: Astra wild
            I wonder what N.V. Gogol did not please them?

            we did not refuse him.
            Since he - no one described the Ukrainian lands of those times (especially his native Poltava region)

            This could be safely asserted until 2014, when the cult of Galicia, as the correct standard of Ukrainians, was just preparing to dominate the entire territory of Ukraine. You know perfectly well that for the "collective Vyatrovich" from Galicia - Gogol is a traitor and sycophant of the Great Russian culture. Your problem Antares is that you do not want to openly and publicly admit that there is no longer that Ukraine where there was an unspoken compromise with Russian-Soviet culture, a bright period of the model of such a Ukraine, this is the era of Kuchma and the rule of Yanukovych. Where Russian, of course, was not the second state language, as, for example, in wise Belarus, but at least it had protection in the status of regional and provincial in the form of the Kivalov-Kolesnichenko Law. You can, of course, comfort yourself psychologically with the thought that this is a reaction to the loss of Crimea and part of the Donbass. But you know perfectly well that this policy was long before 2014 and manifested itself in the era of Yushchenko, who, by the way, also surrendered territories, not to Russia, but to Romania in the form of a shelf around Zmeiny Island. So, the cult of Bandera, Galicia and the attack on Russian culture, even in an exaggerated form, began long before the events of the winter of 2014, check and mate is the defender of New Khutoryanskaya Ukraine.
            1. 0
              21 September 2019 09: 37
              Quote: Nevsky_ZU
              You know very well that for the "collective Vyatrovich" from Galicia, Gogol is a traitor and sycophant of the Great Russian culture

              Vyatrovich is only a symbol of that policy. Which we did not like and we replaced it in the elections
              We do not support his ideas. Course change and in power
              Vyatrovich is generally dumb, he even went against the main driving force of Ukrainian society
              Director of the Institute of National Memory Vladimir Vyatrovich said that he is annoyed by nationalists who speak Russian
              1. 0
                21 September 2019 17: 08
                Quote: Antares
                Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                You know very well that for the "collective Vyatrovich" from Galicia, Gogol is a traitor and sycophant of the Great Russian culture

                Vyatrovich is only a symbol of that policy. Which we did not like and we replaced it in the elections
                We do not support his ideas. Course change and in power
                Vyatrovich is generally dumb, he even went against the main driving force of Ukrainian society
                Director of the Institute of National Memory Vladimir Vyatrovich said that he is annoyed by nationalists who speak Russian

                Funny to read. Between the raindrops of the twice-held Ukrainian political nation in 2004 and 2014 with a bias in favor of Galicia, (otherwise the spelling of the Ukrainian language would not have been touched in favor of the 5 regions of Western Ukraine and the transfer of the holiday of the defender of Ukraine to October 14, instead of holding the course on December 6 as under Kuchma and show compromise,) you are trying to become a centrist of Ukraine. And the centrists today, this is essentially Medvedchuk, but you have them pro-Russian. CPU is generally prohibited. If you take the political map of Ukraine 2005-2014. Then in that period only IN Freedom was right. Today, all parties almost recognize Bandera as the hero of Ukraine for the whole country, without taking into account the history of the regions of Ukraine. You are fooling yourself. And before 2004, this wing in the Verkhovna Rada was represented only by Shkil Andrey in an embroidered shirt with Udovenko and Kostenko. Then everyone was almost Medvedchuk, and they were opposed by Natalya Vitrenko and Simonenko, and yes, this is the legendary 1999 year and the election of the President of Ukraine.
            2. O22
              -2
              21 September 2019 12: 24
              Good to watch your TV! Better go thimbles, you can with your naivety! ) And come and look at the Nazis, blue-white-blue! Antares and I will meet you with Schmeissers! )))
              1. 0
                21 September 2019 16: 48
                Quote: O22
                Good to watch your TV! Better go thimbles, you can with your naivety! ) And come and look at the Nazis, blue-white-blue! Antares and I will meet you with Schmeissers! )))

                And he himself was not naive in the winter of 2013-2014? Or how fashionable it is now to say: "I did not support Euromaidan-2014, but I was also against Anti-Maidan, or rather its methods of copying the actions of Western Ukraine with the capture of the Regional State Administration and SBU offices!" Or you have collective amnesia, who first started? There is still a video on the network where in Ivano-Frankivsk, Maidan activists storm the branch of the SBU, but in response, automatic fire, as it should be according to the charter in any normal state.
                Are you a classic Russian-speaking patriot of Ukraine with exclamations: "Show me the Bandera people here?"
                1. Streets and avenues are named after Bandera, where UPA detachments hundreds of kilometers from the Carpathians did not even operate historically. Bandera has become a state hero of Ukraine and is present in national history books of Ukraine, regardless of the specifics of the history of the region of Ukraine, its culture and traditions, and only from a positive point of view.
                2. Nobody beats the Russian language in the face in Ukraine, this is understandable even in the remote village of Yakutia, and it is only incomprehensible to the stubborn Russian-speaking patriot of Ukraine who voluntarily abandoned his culture and ancestors in favor of assimilation and a comfortable stay in a new independent country after 1991 year and denies the right to those who do not want to follow your example. It's not about the language of communication, but about the right to conduct paperwork in Russian at least at the regional level, and study at school on a par with Ukrainian in those regions where it dominates purely historically. Considering that the experience of Belarus, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, where Russian is the second official language, is for Ukraine, this is generally beyond fiction and understanding.
    3. HAM
      +2
      20 September 2019 17: 11
      No, this is Zee to himself ...
    4. 0
      20 September 2019 19: 28
      Vladimir, if they mean Vladimir Monomakh, then he was the Prince of Kiev. True, then it was Kievan Rus
      1. +3
        20 September 2019 20: 51
        Quote: Astra wild
        Vladimir, if they mean Vladimir Monomakh, then he was the Prince of Kiev.

        No, Vladimir Svyatoslavovich, Baptist of Russia. Born near Pskov, Novgorod and Kiev Grand Duke.
      2. +1
        21 September 2019 03: 17
        The name Kievan Rus appeared in the writings of historians of the XIX century. But in reality it was called Russia!
        1. 0
          21 September 2019 19: 28
          Kievan Rus is not the name of the state, but the name of the period of Russia from 882 to 1240, that is, from the moment that Novgorod Prince Oleg (Prophetic) regent of the son of Rurik made Kiev the capital until the ruin of Kiev by Batu in 1240.

          And before that, Russia was Novgorod.

          These Bandera devils turned everything upside down. But I think soon everything will fall into place.
    5. +1
      20 September 2019 19: 53
      Russian Grand Duke.

      Here, all the same, whatever one may say, the prince is still common.
    6. +2
      20 September 2019 20: 41
      Quote: Vladimir16
      Russian Grand Duke.

      I also don’t remember that there were princes in Ukraine, and especially Grand Dukes. Maybe he taught bad history at school.
      1. -4
        20 September 2019 21: 22
        Quote: tihonmarine
        there were princes in Ukraine, and especially the Grand Dukes.

        have always been ... from the first book about the history of Ukraine
        Yes, and from Soviet books (but there is a common story in contrast to the privatized Ukrainian and Russian)
        Here is what Ukrainian Wiki writes
        Volodymyr Svyatoslavich (a longtime Russian. Volodymyr Svatoslavich; 960/963 - 15 linnas 1015) - the Russian prince from the Varyazko dynasty Rurikovich. Grand Duke of Kyiv (979–1015), ruler and baptist of Kyiv Rus. Prince of Novgorod (970–988). The youngest (after-all-beloved) synod of the prince of Kiev Svyatoslav Іgorovich іd a kokhanka-key keeper Malki. Onuk of the Kiev princes Olga, father of the Kiev prince Yaroslav the Wise. Younger brother and offender of the prince of Kiev Yaropolk Svyatoslavich.

        In the Ukrainian language there is clearly "Rusky" - it is native. And there is "Russian" it is Russian.
        And these are two different. In Ukrainian, "Rusky" is actually Ukrainian.
        that's it.
        By the way, the prince "Velma butterflies kohav" ....
        for the baptism of Rus, I would not erect monuments to him. But for femininity, perhaps.
        Alpha male territory.
        1. +2
          20 September 2019 23: 10
          Quote: Antares
          In Ukrainian, "Rusky" is actually Ukrainian.
          that's it.

          Schizophrenia..
          1. -1
            21 September 2019 09: 37
            Quote: dvina71
            Schizophrenia..

            This is politics! (C)
            1. +1
              21 September 2019 09: 39
              Quote: Antares
              This is politics! (C)

              When schizophrenia is politics .. trouble is trouble ..
          2. O22
            -1
            21 September 2019 13: 17
            Dear, who?
        2. +2
          21 September 2019 10: 22
          Quote: Antares
          have always been ... from the first book about the history of Ukraine

          Gee gee! And somewhere did you read that lad? Maybe the pans from Poland told you that. Remember Grand Duke Vladimir Svyatoslavovich was born near Pskov, Prince of Novgorod and Kiev. . Well, call it the Principality of Kiev, but Ukraine was not found in any of the annals. You want to have an ancient rich history, but it is the same as at the moment of the 21.09.2019 year, go out into the street, look at the village, one to one.
    7. O22
      0
      21 September 2019 11: 55
      Inflection to the other side. Norm +100500
  3. +3
    20 September 2019 16: 38
    Oh my God! So you look, they will begin to finish building a cruiser of the same type as "Moscow". And then, what good, the "Varyag" will be redeemed from China ... Holy, holy ... belay
    1. +5
      20 September 2019 17: 21
      And by the way, if you take a sober and impartial look at this project, then the ship turns out (at least on paper) quite good for itself. Yes, he will not "sink" the ships of the Black Sea Fleet with only one formidable appearance, no matter how patriots of Nezalezhnaya want to, but the armament of the Ukrainian corvette is quite comparable to our own project 20380. And comparing their anti-ship missiles with the Kh-35, the Aster 15 with the Redoubt, just like other "their" guns with ours, is just as pointless (without real experience of combat use) as it is to arrange a battle between Chuck Norris and Wandam in your mind.
      In fact, in my amateurish opinion, the only disadvantages of the Ukrainian corvette are the absence of anti-aircraft artillery (the same AK-630 or similar ones) and the high cost of the ship. Although the cost is explained by the desire to buy everything "European"
      1. +3
        20 September 2019 19: 05
        Quote: Wiruz
        In fact, in my amateurish opinion, the only drawbacks of the Ukrainian corvette are the lack of anti-aircraft artillery (the same AK-630 or similar)

        Well, why the absence? According to the text, the presence of 2 6x35mm is exactly the same (if there is no typo with the caliber, there is nothing other than the ancient Vigilant with this caliber).
        1. +1
          20 September 2019 19: 53
          Well, why the absence? According to the text, the presence of 2 6x35mm is exactly the same (if there is no typo with the caliber, there is nothing other than the ancient Vigilant with this caliber).

          Did not notice, to blame. I just remember that according to the initial project it was planned to put two larger guns instead of them, I don’t remember what caliber
  4. +14
    20 September 2019 16: 39
    Ukraine resumes the construction of 58250 project corvettes


    Forgot to add "WANTS" ...
  5. +2
    20 September 2019 16: 42
    Armament: 2x4 anti-ship missiles

    What missiles will be in service? Harpoon?
    1. -1
      20 September 2019 16: 55
      Quote: barsuk
      What missiles will be in service? Harpoon?

      Yes, maybe they’re the hostesses, who will push them from the master’s shoulder
    2. 0
      20 September 2019 16: 59
      Quote: barsuk
      What missiles will be in service? Harpoon?

      Judging by the picture - NSM
    3. +2
      20 September 2019 17: 01
      Trident am voooot such
    4. +4
      20 September 2019 17: 02
      Most likely "Neptune" is a local revision of the Soviet still complex.
    5. +6
      20 September 2019 17: 02
      They planned the Exosets. But I don’t know, the French are aware of these plans?
      In general, according to the filling there is nothing in my opinion, except for the Wishlist of Ukrainians.
      Most likely they will bet what they agree to sell. This if at all comes to the installation of weapons.
      1. -1
        20 September 2019 20: 49
        And someone refuses to sell?
        1. +1
          21 September 2019 10: 25
          To refuse or agree, you need some specifics. What, how much, in what time frame and for what money. And Ukraine has no specifics yet, from the word "in general". And yet, yes, they can refuse something. Well, how will the Muscovites wrest the ship again, and is there any modern radar on board?
  6. +3
    20 September 2019 16: 47
    I do not believe. In intentions - I believe, in the result - no.
  7. +7
    20 September 2019 16: 47
    In these conditions it’s not real. That's all I wanted to say!
  8. +3
    20 September 2019 16: 55
    And from France to buy their corvettes ... only here in a different place than to patch holes - "at the end of August, only about half of the entire locomotive fleet of Ukrzaliznytsia is in working order - 1796 out of 3596 serviceable locomotives (these figures also include shunting locomotives ) ... in less than three years, more than three hundred locomotives were out of order, and only 30 were purchased during this period ...
  9. +4
    20 September 2019 17: 10
    Not for that, the USA and the Eurosavings Maidan arranged for ukroina to build something herself, larger than the longboat. To buy everything from NATO, buy them used junk, that’s the fate of the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, or rather, its remnants.
  10. wow
    +2
    20 September 2019 17: 15
    Oh, what the grandmas have appeared !!! Not "rosikrali" ....? Well, they are still rooting.
  11. +3
    20 September 2019 17: 20
    The corresponding order was given by the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky

    order to give the case is not tricky, denyuzhku on the implementation of this gave?
  12. +1
    20 September 2019 17: 25
    It is hard to believe that this project will be implemented. Not in vain, from the French, were going to buy ships.
    1. O22
      0
      21 September 2019 12: 18
      Moreover, the border guards boats (we didn’t get any info anywhere, by the way) to the corvettes?
  13. +2
    20 September 2019 17: 33
    Looks like or who the kids for a month in Monaco needed or found which country to sell.
  14. +1
    20 September 2019 18: 28
    Quote: Vladimir16
    providing for the completion of the lead ship of the series - the corvette "Vladimir the Great"

    Russian Grand Duke.
    :

    Not a great Russian prince, but a Ukrainian president. Do not confuse.
  15. +4
    20 September 2019 19: 10
    In Ukraine, they decided to resume the state program for the construction of a series of project 58250 corvettes.

    If the country cannot build patrol boats for the Coast Guard, then what kind of corvettes are we talking about? They cannot even bring the 95% built "Ukraine" up to standard and want to sell it. So the next greasy Wishlist. fellow laughing
    1. 0
      20 September 2019 20: 47
      Ukraine, as it turned out, nobody needs, including the Chinese and Indians
  16. +3
    20 September 2019 19: 10
    Svidomo admirals began to get saws from under the beds. winked
  17. +4
    20 September 2019 19: 33
    In the picture is a helicopter, with our Kamov. Where will they get it from? I don’t even talk about money - this is generally from mythology
    1. +3
      20 September 2019 21: 09
      Where from?

      This is an illustration of the capture of the Russian aggressor)
    2. +2
      20 September 2019 21: 17
      P.S. After an illegal attempt to cross the Kerch Strait. wassat
  18. 0
    20 September 2019 20: 46
    Perekorvet - underfregat.
    Conceived by admirals abroad on all sorts of international drills to ride.
    For $ 300 million, it’s quite possible to get a normal frigate with a slightly larger displacement.
    1. +2
      20 September 2019 21: 27
      Quote: Avior
      For $ 300 million, it’s quite possible to get a normal frigate with a slightly larger displacement.

      Yes, it's true. Cost has been the cornerstone and arrows in criticizing this project.
      And excuse-as loading their shipyards did not pass. For its only body! Before Neptune - in general, the main weapon and everything that is intra-European .. And the cost, too ...
      It was cheaper to buy the whole ship ....
      Wait, when there is RCC, it makes sense. But the cost is of course overpriced. I hope for the head. And because skills have not been around for a long time and equipment.
      And still skeptical. For too long - out of political will, Olkhu was found to make money and effort. But here, nobody was particularly interested in the fleet.
      amount - in the spring the completion of the corvette was estimated at 5,8 billion UAH. (about 200 million euros), now the amount of UAH 7,7 billion is being announced, and this is not the final figure. Indeed, the initial project involved the installation of weapons, including those made in Russia, and now, as far as we know, they are remaking it under Western models (which is still unclear whether they will sell us).
  19. +1
    20 September 2019 21: 07
    If not armored then I won’t believe it!
  20. +1
    20 September 2019 21: 21
    This is not an hour like * Coral *. He stood, stood half-built ... In short, they cut him to the devil. So that the place on the delivery base did not take. Bo Karakurt must be lowered, moored somewhere.
  21. +1
    20 September 2019 21: 49
    All of the above characteristics for weapons are based on the fact that someone will sell something (or give it to a beggar). Apart from artillery, there seems to be nothing. It is not clear who will give the radar, because if they were developed, they were not tested, and how will they interact with the same anti-ship missiles? Where will intelligence come from to identify targets? Who is going to take a turntable (and if you haven’t decided yet, how to design a helicopter hangar and its equipment)? Well and further down the list ...
    Now someone will say that the NATO countries will be thrown ... Yeah, they will transfer their key technologies to a country that for the last 25 years has only done what it sold to other people’s technologies.
  22. +1
    20 September 2019 21: 54
    like our corvettes
  23. +1
    20 September 2019 22: 08
    The material indicated the parameters in general, but before there was a full description. So there was a lot of imported parts there. Is the project revised now or did you decide to buy it? Something not to hear about the allocation of funds for the purchase of such equipment
  24. +4
    20 September 2019 23: 42
    Power is changing, people come new, skinny, hungry, ready to tear the budget ... and what is most convenient to cut? Correctly! Shipbuilding, the hull has lain since 2014 at the Black Sea plant - you need to drag it to Nikolaev, everything is destroyed there - it’s demolished ... how much uncovered dough is !!!!
  25. 0
    20 September 2019 23: 43
    I don’t understand why they need corvettes. They have a land war going on, which means that it is necessary to invest money in the ground forces. for $ 200 million you can buy a lot of interesting things, the same javelins of 1000 pieces. which would clearly change the alignment on the battlefield
  26. +1
    20 September 2019 23: 55
    It is interesting to stick from cardboard or from the Lego to collect the whole country?
    1. 0
      21 September 2019 15: 18
      Quote: Alexander Yalta
      It is interesting to stick from cardboard or from the Lego to collect the whole country?

      What for? They will cut their cruiser, there is this stalugi, enough for two corvettes.
  27. +3
    21 September 2019 00: 08
    Completion of the "corvette" "Vladimir the Great" - a reason to appoint a new "admiral wassat ". 4 corvettes = 4 admirals ... The amount of money spent from the" treasury "of Ukraine does not matter ... bully
  28. 0
    21 September 2019 15: 16
    Ukraine resumes the construction of corvettes
    What the peasants, then the monkey.
  29. 0
    21 September 2019 17: 17
    Quote: Antares
    he even went against the main driving force of Ukrainian society

    but from this place in more detail, what kind of power is this.
  30. 0
    21 September 2019 19: 34
    Well what can I say, a good corvette.

    Although the Ukrainian corvette will be inferior to the Russian pr.20380 in terms of air defense and in terms of anti-torpedo protection.

    Well, a bunch of imported components will cause many problems with the repair and maintenance of this corvette. It can turn out like with Georgian missile boats, which at the right time were riveted to the pier, where they were sent to the bottom.

    Cruise missiles, if of course the Ukrainian "Harpoon" corresponds to the declared characteristics, in fact a copy of our Kh-35U. Radar stations in Ukraine are also being made and no worse than ours, the SAC will most likely also be at the level.

    Ukraine needs $ 4 billion for 1 corvettes, will it be pulled ?! Quite possible. They don’t really need more.

    And how to turn out in reality - we'll see.
  31. 0
    22 September 2019 11: 08
    The transfer of production to Nikolaev, of course, will slow down production. The fifth wheel in the cart never helped.