European Parliament condemns Russia for attempts to "whitewash the Stalinist regime"

Amid the absence of a Brexit deal, amid Greece’s debt hole, colossal problems with the dominance of migrants, amid the threat of falling GDP growth due to a jump in oil prices after the situation with US threats to Iran, the European Parliament did not find for themselves a different agenda, except for the discussion of Joseph Stalin and his reign in the USSR.

It would seem, what is the connection between the USSR and Stalin on the one hand and the European Union today on the other? But EP deputies decided today to focus specifically on an excursion into history.

So, European parliamentarians suddenly wished to discuss the Soviet-German agreement of the 1939 of the year - the so-called Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. What for? Yes, to once again try to equalize the Soviet system of the 30-40's and Nazism.

From a message on the website of the European Parliament:

The European Parliament commemorates the victims of Stalinism, Nazism and other totalitarian and authoritarian regimes (...) 80 years after the conclusion of the Nazi-Soviet treaty (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), members of the European Parliament call for a common culture of memory as a way to increase Europeans resistance to modern threats to democracy.

It is strange that the European culture of memory is so selective. For some reason, at the EP session, they did not discuss the pact between Poland and Hitler Germany, did not discuss the Munich agreement, as a result of which the Germans and Poles invaded Czechoslovakia, did not discuss and did not condemn the actions of the regimes of France and Britain in 1938, when they actually turned on "Green light" on the occupation.

As a result of the session at which a resolution was adopted that was actually trying to identify Stalin and Hitler, it was decided to declare 25 May the day of the struggle against totalitarianism. They decided to take the starting point from the 1948 of the year when Vitold Pilecki, a former officer of the Polish army, a former prisoner of Auschwitz, was executed in Warsaw (by the way, the Germans surrendered voluntarily in order to get to this camp). Pilecki was sentenced to death for espionage by a Polish court on charges of the Polish prosecutor. But the European Parliament decided that "Stalin is to blame" anyway.

At the same session, it was stated that Russia "is trying to whitewash the crimes of Stalinism, which is part of the information war and a threat to European democracy." MEPs decided by majority vote to condemn the Russian Federation for "whitewashing Stalinism."

At the same time, the EP called on the governments of the EU countries to ban neo-Nazi and neo-fascist groups. But Ukraine aspiring to the EU will also be banned?

Comments

[keeper03]

Here are scum, they still can’t calm down !!! It would be better if they watched themselves and did not climb into ...

[Svarog]

European Parliament condemns Russia for attempts to "whitewash the Stalinist regime"

The grandchildren of the Nazis and their accomplices, who lost the war, are still afraid of Stalin .. Here is Stalin, what a savory kick he weighed out ... But the henchmen of our "partners", and part-time officials and deputies pay money there and bow at the feet .. well, relatives visit.

[Lexus]

Some of the "same" fascists of our veterans, believe me, will survive. Nobody gassed them or starved them ... And the Pension Fund does not pay them pensions.

[Lexus]

URL:
https://jpgazeta.ru/pensioneryi-gitlera-kak-frg-platit-pensii-tretego-reyha/
Here's about the Nazi pensions spicy story that opened at the beginning of the year.
And what about our old people, it's constantly on TV - somewhere a veteran survives in a helpless state in emergency housing, then the geeks "coffin" and the awards have been stolen ... for hype and dosvidos. They can even "congratulate" on the anniversary of the terrorist attack. Shame.

[Mavrikiy]

European Parliament condemns Russia for attempts to "whitewash the Stalinist regime"

All is correct. He defeated a united Europe, such is not forgiven. Stalin would have these liberals .... And if we praise Stalin and still find the same, then once again we will bring all of Europe to life.

[Egorovich]

Until now, the two-faced Europeans, accomplices of the Nazis, at the mention of STALIN, the shaking begins. And all still can not calm down, holy fools.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egorovich

Until now, the two-faced Europeans, accomplices of the Nazis, at the mention of STALIN, the shaking begins.

You see how the liberals began to minus.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: tihonmarine

..... You see how the liberals began to minus.

Ett probably minus the gay men? Or are the Zei Europeans?
The most disgusting thing is that throughout the country there is a complete de-Stalinization of all. To me personally, and to many comrades, this is disgusting. For example ----- monuments to victims of repression, which is debatable. Or the weeping wall at the 18th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution. That whites --- do not count. That Italians. That was Mannerheim’s board. That movies are vile. That article for Victory Day ...
.However ----- want more gay Europeans ?? Whether?. I wonder how the domestic organizers of such monuments and the authors of articles and films will behave now? Will they be even more zealous than Western "partners"? ...

[Lexus]

Will they be even more zealous than Western "partners"? ...

They have already made a choice for themselves - they believe that money "does not smell". They will even "podmahivat".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Reptiloid

Ett probably minus the gay men? Or are the Zei Europeans?
The most disgusting thing is that throughout the country there is a complete de-Stalinization of all.

And now I look, they went plus. Ours took!

[yang174]

not liberals, but illiterate and stupid

[Roman070280]

Well, the shake also begins in our estates .. they’re just afraid they’re very openly pouring mud .. but the mausoleum at 9 may be suspended ..

[Roman070280]

I was surprised to find that the word "power" is prohibited on this resource ..))
Although I agree that this definition, in terms of meaning, fully coincides with those who call themselves gay ..

[Yura]

Quote: keeper03

It would be better if they watched themselves and did not climb into ...

It's right. But they forgot the most important thing - Stalin did not commit crimes against Europe, let them name at least one. What crimes do they mean - Poland? So first let her be convicted of crimes against European states, as well as her government’s betrayal. Former fascist states and their accomplices condemn the leader of the state who delivered them from fascist regimes.

[poquello]

Quote: Jura

Quote: keeper03

It would be better if they watched themselves and did not climb into ...

It's right. But they forgot the most important thing - Stalin did not commit crimes against Europe, let them name at least one. What crimes do they mean - Poland? So first let her be convicted of crimes against European states, as well as her government’s betrayal. Former fascist states and their accomplices condemn the leader of the state who delivered them from fascist regimes.

and democracy around the USSR causes great doubts

[yang174]

but where does the truth come from them? everyone will be scolded .... Stalin didn’t shoot himself? and didn’t write denunciations personally? and there 90% of all types of repressed people are criminal, they can put enemies to the wall, who could be innocent. there was such a time.

my hand and shcha wouldn’t hang with a Mauser, but it would grumble without trouble ... there are so many fools ... that it’s easier to shoot than to educate and teach

[PavelM]

The modern "elite" has a big problem of a double consciousness: on the one hand, they accuse the West of falsifying History, on the other hand, they rip out, renounce a whole piece of their own History and their SUCCESSFUL leader of the country, thereby rewriting History themselves. They are accused of demolishing monuments, but their monuments to Stalin were demolished and do not allow them to appear again. This is a typical rewriting of History. But what is the reason for such a suicidal behavior for the country?
The first is that Putin, by profession, is the successor of N.I.Ezhov and does not want to be placed on a par with him, therefore he actively renounces.
The second - both Putin and Medvedev look pale against the background of Stalin, and therefore it is better to forget him. Again, ambition: at the Victory Day parade of 9 on May 2019 of the year about Stalin - not a word, and Putin was called the commander in chief. Are they trying to replace, in the brains of the people, Commander-in-Chief Stalin with Putin?
In short, what matters to us is not what they say in the West, but to understand why and why our authorities renounce the history of their own country.

[Severok]

In this context, it is purely and tremendously important to educate your descendants so that the memory of the USSR is not erased, the memory of the work of our ancestors, who built the state, which was now plundered and sold by the last women and fights, modern bad guys in the form of those muzzles that do not slip from Kremlin TV reports.
It is necessary to drive into the heads of our children the understanding that private property, which affects the sovereignty of the State, is evil. It is necessary to drive into the heads of our children an understanding of mutual assistance and an aversion to bargaining as the most heinous vice.

I have the honor.

[Tank hard]

Well, yes, the opinion of Europe is very important for some of the leaders, probably. Not in vain, after all, they have stepped on (entered) PACE ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Tank Hard

Well, yes, the opinion of Europe is very important for some of the leaders, probably. Not in vain, after all, they have stepped on (entered) PACE ...

According to the results of the 2018 year, the trade turnover between Russia and the EU countries increased by 19,3%.

[Tank hard]

Quote: RUSS

According to the results of the 2018 year, the trade turnover between Russia and the EU countries increased by 19,3%.

So what of this? Now bow to them?

[NordUral]

What is this to us? The constant increase in the cost of survival for most people.

[210ox]

Well, just returned to this shit .. Please be kind to listen ..

[Loess]

MEPs decided by a majority of votes to condemn the Russian Federation for "whitewashing Stalinism."

One of those rare moments when you regret that because of censorship you cannot express your opinion about the “European parliamentarians” using only the “powerful” component of the Russian language.

[Reserve buildbat]

First, let the countries that support Nazism be kicked out of the "gayrosoyuz". Clowns are incompetent.

[Evil echo]

After this, the question arises of the need for geyropi as a society.

[Barmaleyka]

how they are contorted from only memories of the might of the Great Power

[Town Hall]

That's it ... about the relics

[Barmaleyka]

and can you explain your statement?

[Town Hall]

about the power of the Great Power

Lapsus

[Barmaleyka]

and?!
clearly state a thought

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Barmaleyka

clearly state a thought

This is not the right place. To state - no, to sketch - always please. This is a runner who has fallen to Italy.

[Prisoner]

Let them go through the forest. There will be still every unfinished Nazi TV-ar to climb into our internal affairs.

[K-50]

European Parliament condemns Russia for attempts to "whitewash the Stalinist regime"

The opinion of the failed ashes of the descendants of the Victors does not bother.

[paul3390]

Not these Europidors to scratch their filthy tongues in the name of the great Stalin!

[Romanenko]

Oh, to whom, to whom, but not of this organization, to condemn the Stalin regime.
If not for him, they would be Hitler’s now.
And in general, there’s nothing to go where it’s not necessary, let refugees also deal with their tolerasts, there is someone there to blame for what.
In a word, as they used to say - HANDS ARE OFF FROM RUSSIA AND STALIN !!!

[KERMET]

It’s only that the Russian leadership, headed by the leader, is difficult to blame for the bleaching of the Stalinist regime ...
Quite the contrary - it is trying in the same direction as the European Parliament. Either admitting guilt in the Katyn events, then pulling out dubious secret protocols, then bashfully hiding the mausoleum and the role of the Supreme Commander on Victory Day ...

[Yu-81]

In fact, it would be interesting to know the facts on which the European Union relied .... In short, these figures. From the point of view of the leadership of our country, everything is also blacked out with black paint and the name of Stalin, and the achievements of Soviet power. Therefore, it is not clear what exactly the actions of our authorities cause their rejection ...

[Roman070280]

To the point, Alexander !!

[faterdom]

We paid them "debt" - and they cheered up. All discussions and condemnations, so that we can still come up with a "debt", which we, too, as practice shows, will pay.

[Sochi]

Actually, it’s not a loser who can scream about this ... Have you already forgotten how the Fuhrer enslaved? Forgot who freed them? Isn’t it time to charge the board again so that the memory wakes up? I really would not want to ... but it seems nothing else has been given.

[Igool]

Quote: Sochi

. Have you already forgotten how the Führer enslaved?

And where did you get about their enslavement? They practically did not show resistance to him, in factories, both worked and continued to work. The main part of the military products produced by them went to the eastern front. So, that they remembered the enslavement and their victory over Hitler Germany only at the end of the war, when the Fritz were vyshbetil outside the USSR

[Sochi]

They did not have rights in the Reich, though it didn’t bother them much, apparently it suited them. But, in fact, it was slavery (a fascist racial theory), and the Germans didn’t really trust even those who went to serve them, the exception was the Allies. For the rest, I agree, the bastards worked for good conscience.

[RUSS]

The article, especially the headline, is far-fetched, it feels like the article is nothing, so ... But what if only once again about Stalin and the hostile West.

[yang174]

ii? article is lying?

[demo]

The European Parliament commemorates the victims of Stalinism, Nazism and other totalitarian and authoritarian regimes (...) 80 years after the conclusion of the Nazi-Soviet treaty (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), members of the European Parliament call for a common culture of memory as a way to increase Europeans resistance to modern threats to democracy.

Let's do it.
You yourself remember your "martyrs".
And we ourselves!
It’s not worth dumping all in one pile.

We, Russians, will figure out without you where "flies" and where "cutlets".

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Svarog

The grandchildren of the Nazis and their accomplices who have lost the war are still afraid of Stalin

I say again, it was not necessary to free Europe. Again their pro-fascist ravings began.

[Pavel57]

No one knows how things would go if they stopped at the border.

[kit88]

Is that what I read ?!
Ah, what a bold mongrel.
Are they yapping at the WWII winner? To one of those who wrote the Rules of the game for the whole World as a result of this war.
There are arrogant attempts to rewrite history. Here we need a very tough answer from the Kremlin. Otherwise, after a decade, some European court convicts us at the beginning of all world wars of the twentieth century with the payment of indemnities and the return of territories. And there are seizures of property and so on and so forth ... In short, they gathered to break us.
On a hill they should NOW be given. And this should all end. We will not give it now - then it will be much more difficult.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: kit88

Ah, what a bold mongrel.

Here is a mongrel to know she is strong, since she barks at the Elephant.

[BMP-2]

Defilers decided to oppose the whitewashing. Less would be denigrated - and there would be no problems with whitening :!) By the way, something did not meet the European Parliament's statements regarding the condemnation of pacts of other European countries with Hitler ...

[Ushly_bashkort]

There was nothing, there was nothing! ©
Let us close our eyes to the marches of the SS in the Baltic countries, but we will call for the censure of Nazism, and we will also support the Natsiks in / in Ukraine.

[Reptiloid]

It’s somehow not clear where in the resolution on the forest brothers and other Baltic ones? Or about the OUN-UPA? Or about the Calabrationists of Western Europe? Or about ustashi .....

[Kenxnumx]

Read. About it too. The use of fascist symbols is included

[Reptiloid]

What is funny ----- condemned for the hatred of sexual minorities? But is it the state’s policy with us? This is a personal matter for everyone. And how dare this Geyparliament get into the emotions of Russians?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Reptiloid

.. how dare this Geyparliament get into the emotions of Russians?

Honestly I don’t understand such attention of the resolution at all Club non-followers for bazar and lowresponse in relation to the Russian Federation. I think the Foreign Ministry will express the attitude of the country and enough, let them continue to cook in their tolerance.
When the cat has nothing to do, he ..., well then everyone knows, and Russia and the Russians will figure it out

[Ushly_bashkort]

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the authorities have already expressed their opinion in relation to Stalin and the Soviet regime. Masha Zakharova - Stalin worse than Hitler, Poklonskaya - put Lenin and Hitler on a par. Remind me about the opening of the Laundry Board by the Minister of Manerheim?

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Ushly_bashkort

.. to remind?

Thank you, no need to remind. I would also prefer to hear an answer of a different tonality, something in the spirit but would you all go to the forest. The Foreign Ministry conducts itself passively, not qualitatively: constantly say that they work openly against the Russian Federation, but they themselves demonstrate passivity.

[Reptiloid]

After all, all this has been going on for over 30 years. De-Stalinization. Many have already benefited from this .. But there are probably hopes for specific benefits, such as if I were the queen ... And a demonstration of loyalty.

Quote: Ushly_bashkort

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the authorities have already expressed their opinion in relation to Stalin and the Soviet regime. Masha Zakharova - Stalin worse than Hitler, Poklonskaya - put Lenin and Hitler on a par. Remind me about the opening of the Laundry Board by the Minister of Manerheim?

[Kenxnumx]

Where in the original text about the emotions of Russians.

[Umalta]

There is also a reverse example, when Stalin refused to bring Mannerheim to the tribunal. No one denies the Holocaust in the Russian Federation and our Natsiks are imprisoned in full and the government is full of Jews, but about democracy in the EU countries, you are clearly getting excited, try to abandon the perverted "tolerant" upbringing of a child or get the truth in court for a mutilated daughter on the street by immigrants from a neighbor east or north Africa, and about the rosy deeds, let them enjoy each other as much as they want, but do not propagate this muck and this is the policy of the state, I do not think that Israel and the faith of the Jews allow such perversions.

[Kenxnumx]

I gave a translation of the original text and historical background on the person.

[Reptiloid]

Thank you for these explanations.

[yang174]

I’m not a historian, and I’m just talking about this camp, and I don’t know any other. Enlighten how many shoots were there, successful

[Terenin]

Quote: Ken71

MEPs express concern over the attempts of the current Russian leadership to whitewash the crimes committed by the Soviet totalitarian regime, and see them as “a dangerous component of the information war unleashed against democratic Europe.”

And, how do we express concern about "democratic" Europe for her swaggering boastful attitude to her story, such as:
"Good" old England
The criminal law of England from the XI to the XIX century, went down in history, under the tacit name - "Bloody Code".
English criminal law provided for capital punishment in the form of the death penalty for 150-200 crimes and, England rightfully deserved the name of the "classical country of the death penalty", which punished even the most ridiculous misconduct:
"Theft of a sheep, rabbit, etc."
“Stealing anything more than 5 shillings.”
“Forest law: encroachment on the royal forbidden forest (hunting, logging, picking fruit)”
"Catholicism and Judaism"
"Begging"
"Witchcraft"
“Adultery”
“Obtaining a retired seafarer's pension based on forged documents”
“Impersonating a patient in a nursing home”
“Damage to the London and Westminster Bridge”
"Hanging out with gypsies"
"Rebellion",
“For the destruction of machines” (Luddism), etc.

[Kenxnumx]

Why are you doing this? Have you posted your stock of knowledge in bulk? And they lynch blacks - right?

[Terenin]

Quote: Ken71

Why are you doing this?

Yes so , get into a conversation ...

Quote: Ken71

Have you posted your stock of knowledge in bulk?

Two neighbors are talking: - Rabinovich, what do you think is stronger: knowledge or feeling? - Feeling! - Why? “I know that I owe Dodik, but I feel ... I won’t give it up.” .

Quote: Ken71

And they lynch blacks - right?

“And you have blacks lynched” - a catch phrase used in Eastern European countries to denote the use of a rhetorical device known as tu quoque (“such a thing”) .

[Tank hard]

Quote: Ken71

Members of the European Parliament

Quote: Ken71

Parliament calls on member states to “effectively ban neo-fascist and neo-Nazi groups and any other foundations or associations that extol and glorify Nazism and fascism or any other form of totalitarianism”, as well as counteract incitement to hatred and violence in public places and on the Internet, and in particular , condemn and oppose all forms of Holocaust denial. For 535, against 66 and 52 abstained.

Well, they know how to lie without hesitation (Baltic, Ukraine, an example to everyone about neo-Nazis, the USA supports all this, and Israel is an ally of the USA, so what is there about neo-Nazis ?! ) ...

Quote: Ken71

hatred of sexual and others minorities.

Do you personally love sexual minorities? Curious...

[Kenxnumx]

For those who are in the tank inform - I gave a translation of the original text. And sexual minorities are parallel to me. I do not like fools.

[Tank hard]

Quote: Ken71

I cited a translation of the original text.

What for?! From this, what have the sayings of the Europeans changed their meaning? Or has your position changed?

Quote: Ken71

I do not like fools.

What a coincidence ...
And I do not really respect rude individuals, like the one who wrote this:

Quote: Ken71

For those who inform in the tank

[Kenxnumx]

For those who are in the tank - means for those who can’t understand the information the first time. The author of the topic copied the news from which third site and very crookedly. I brought the translated original. For those who can read and try to think, and not chew someone else's chewing gum. If for some reason you are in severe offenses, I apologize to you

[Bshkaus]

From the experience of my family, I can say that my father, grandfather and great-grandmother did not feel better from the complete rehabilitation of my great-grandfather, who was shot in the 37 year.
If there are supporters of Stalin who sincerely believe that the end justifies the means, then I suggest that they take shovels, pickaxes and go dig a new channel until the last gasp for the glory of the homeland and leader. It is advisable if, to the evil of the capitalists, a channel is dug on the moon and without spacesuits - a truly wide scope.
And I will be glad for our achievements, but at the expense of the victims during the construction: oh well, no man - no need to pay the RFP.
If we talk seriously about economic achievements and the victory over fascist Germany, then it is certainly a merit of not only the people, but also the leader.
But the mistakes and atrocities of the "Sharikovs", which could only occur with connivance at the very top, cannot be hushed up.

[armata_armata]

From the experience of my family, I can say that my father, grandfather and great-grandmother did not feel better from the complete rehabilitation of my great-grandfather, who was shot in the 37 year.

The 37 year was absolutely the right decision to save the USSR from the traitors of the motherland at the time of the Second World War, the further rehabilitation of citizens repressed in the 37 year, entailed the events of the 80-90 years, the collapse of the country, gangster lawlessness and an unprecedented deterioration in the lives of citizens of the former USSR, also gave two Chechen war, the bombing of Yugoslavia, and multiple conflicts in the former southern republics of the USSR. Children of the repressed completed the work of their fathers.
And this

can not be silent

[Umalta]

No need to hang everything on Stalin, remember his resolution on Khrushchev's memorandum - "Calm down d ... k"!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Bshkaus

From the experience of my family, I can say that my father, grandfather and great-grandmother did not feel better from the complete rehabilitation of my great-grandfather, who was shot in the 37 year.
If there are supporters of Stalin who sincerely believe that the end justifies the means, then I suggest that they take shovels, pickaxes and go dig a new channel until the last gasp for the glory of the homeland and leader.

Personally, I am a descendant of the repressed, but it infuriates me that some kind of Europe is constantly climbing into Russia with teachings, without them we can figure it out for ourselves. And if, who do not like Russia, as a country of residence, they can go anywhere, times are free, no one will delay, maybe there they will allow them to change diapers for any aged Nazi ...

[Yora dan]

There are no questions, you can’t keep silent and you need to remember. But the fact is that this is our history and our ancestors and, in my opinion, give us an assessment of them. And comrades from the west need to deal with their skeletons in the closet, and not come to us with tips on how and what we understand and evaluate.

[Bshkaus]

There are no questions, you can’t keep silent and you need to remember.

Look, you are the only one who answered me in a comment that you agree that you can’t keep silent about your mistakes, for that human thanks to you.

Do not hang everything on Stalin, remember his resolution on the report of Khrushchev

I do not hang anything only on Stalin, as if he was to blame for everything, but I share his guilt of connivance in removing moral standards from people and allowing them to kill all those who are objectionable.

Here Armata writes:

The 37 year was the absolutely right decision to save the USSR from the traitors of the motherland at the time of the Second World War, the further rehabilitation of citizens repressed in the 37 year, entailed the events of the 80-90 years, the collapse of the country

But this means that give him free rein, he will shoot me with great joy first of all, because I disagree with him about something.
And most importantly, he will be sincerely confident that he has done well for his homeland. Although it would be interesting to know what exactly Armata does in life and how it affects the welfare of our country, what model is his car, where his phone was released, where his "worn jeans" are sewn, etc.

[armata_armata]

But this means that give him free rein, he will shoot me with great joy first of all, because I disagree with him about something.
And most importantly, he will be sincerely confident that he has done well for his homeland. Although it would be interesting to know what exactly Armata does in life and how it affects the welfare of our country, what model is his car, where his phone was released, where his "worn jeans" are sewn, etc.

To answer, dress up my dear friend, or think that all this will get away with you, I hasten to upset you sooner or later ...
And what do I do, what is ours and what kind of phone is mine

[Bshkaus]

What am I doingCLthat nАshu

Thank you, you talked about yourself more than enough.

[armata_armata]

Thank you, you talked about yourself more than enough.

You are also a dear friend, I hope 2037 will be as productive for you as 1937

[Rwmos]

Tell me first. Why isn’t the fascist Churchill convicted?

I do not think that a dog in the hay has exclusive rights to this hay, even if it lies on it for a very long time. I do not recognize such a right. I do not recognize, for example, that some great injustice was committed in relation to the American Indians or to the natives in Australia. I do not admit that these people were harmed as a result of the fact that a stronger race, a more advanced race or, in any case, a wiser race, so to speak, came and took their place.

Source: https://ru.citaty.net/tsitaty/627943-uinston-cherchill-ia-ne-schitaiu-chto-sobaka-na-sene-imeet-iskliuchiteln/

[Kenxnumx]

Do you want to blame the fascist Kipling for "The White Man's Burden"? By the way, where is the quote. When and where Churchill said this. The site of the quotation book in the form of proof of the author is not serious

[Umalta]

Yes, except Kipling, a wagon and a small cart, including members of the royal family and the Queen of Small Britain herself.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Ken71

Do you want to blame the fascist Kipling for "The White Man's Burden"? By the way, where is the quote. When and where Churchill said this. The site of the quotation book in the form of proof of the author is not serious

I personally know the situation when a professor from Russia taught a course of lectures at the American University. And at one of the lessons they talked about various records, and he half-jokingly said that America holds the record for killing people per unit of time, this is Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They did not understand him, from the word at all. And after 15 minutes he was called to the director of the university, and he said that he would not dare to tell such things to students anymore, or terminate the contract, because America is always right. Also forbidden are the lessons of history concerning the extermination of Indians of slavery by blacks and much more.

[Moskovit]

When it’s ours, although after these words yours and ours are different people, the peoples of Siberia were cut out.

[Moskovit]

I know the guides of the guides. Of course you can believe them! I don’t know where yours had fun, but thanks to the Republic of Ingushetia in the Caucasus and Central Asia, the slave trade, raids and robberies to neighboring states stopped. At least the dismantling of the feudal system of society was begun. They learned what education, medicine, culture are.
Under the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR, the population of these regions INCREASED.
About Ermak, what can you say? Whom did he cut out? He fought with the army of Kuchum. After the conquest of Siberia, local residents continued to live there, paying taxes not to the Tatars, but to the Russian Tsar at the same time joining a more developed civilization.

[Moskovit]

I was born and raised in Siberia. It is clear that this was not an easy path. And everything was on him. And surely, the indigenous peoples of Siberia and the Far North have their grievances and claims. But to put on one board the genocide and the expulsion of Indians in the United States and the annexation of Siberia to the Republic of Ingushetia is incorrect from the point of view of historical truth.
Suppose the Altai generally survived thanks to Russia. So they would be swallowed up by the Chinese.
The authorities were equally cruel both to Russian immigrants and to local peoples.
Now, small nations are full of preferences. And more rights than Russians.

[Kenxnumx]

See for yourself. But I see something in common in the conquest of a more civilized country - less civilized peoples. 1) Outright robbery, land seizure and tribute. 2) Knocking out local power tops. 3) Civilization of the remaining and taming to life in submission and cooperation. 4) In modern humane time. Preservation of traditions and ethnographic features. Full alignment of rights. All these positions are characteristic of all empires in their relations with the conquered natives. Americans, British, Germans, we and others and others. This does not say that we are bad. But this does not say that Americans are bad, it’s just a normal historical process. Regarding the Americans, here is an article with sensible calculations on this very genocide https://pikabu.ru/story/skolko_millionov_indeytsev_unichtozhili_amerikantsyi_vo_vremya_genotsida_6818784. And by the way, let's not forget that these Indians genocide each other and whites quite intensely, like the Siberian peoples. In general grief for the vanquished

[Tank hard]

Quote: Ken71

And how we cut out the peoples of Siberia will remember

Who are yours?

[Umalta]

Dear Ken71, the witness himself, when he was studying at a university, all the peoples of the North and the small peoples of the Far East entered a higher educational institution by privilege, after preliminary training at a university with full state support, including food, accommodation, and subsequently after admission to a hostel , coupons for free food. In the territories of residence, folk crafts, the culture of these peoples were supported, significant quotas were issued for fishing in Putin, slaughter of whales and pinnipeds, which was prohibited by state institutions, not to mention private individuals and the Russian empire did not destroy one nation; you cannot give an example well if he doesn’t invent any hobbits, moreover, many nations have never had statehood, but at the moment they have a state, an example is Kazakhstan.

[Kenxnumx]

So the Indians in the United States, if they do not thump, then they have the corresponding benefits and preferences. You think they are forcibly kept on reservations. By the way, Native American territories have not weak preferences - for example, Native American casinos and, by the way, their own laws. Especially if the tribal council does not have stubs but the right guys. And you're talking about crafts. Haha

[Avior]

he jokingly said that America holds the record for killing people per unit of time, this is Hiroshima and Nagasaki

actually half joking they don’t say such things, no reason for jokes and half jokes

[Avior]

he jokingly said that America holds the record for killing people per unit of time, this is Hiroshima and Nagasaki

actually half joking they don’t say such things, no reason for jokes and half jokes

[Rwmos]

In Google banned? By the way, Kipling and Churchill are absolutely not the only ones. And not the Germans invented the concentration camps, but the British. And the white slaves from Ireland and the famine there are not a myth. The most bloodthirsty state in history - no one else has cut entire nations to the root, such as New Zealanders. The legalized state policy of drug trafficking is also a factor of genocide. They fought with China only because China began to drown opium ships - and the Nazis defended the drug traffickers by arranging a natural massacre.

actually half joking they don’t say such things, no reason for jokes and half jokes

This is an excuse to yell "you tell me!"

[Kenxnumx]

I did not find in Google a link to the source of the quote. I'm afraid you will not find either

[Rwmos]

I do not think that a dog in the hay has any right to hay, even if it has been lying on it for a very long time. I do not recognize her such a right. I do not admit, for example, that great injustice was committed against the Red Indians of America or the black Aborigines of Australia. I do not admit that injustice was committed against these people because a stronger race, a more advanced race, a wiser race, let’s say so, came and took their place. - To the Peel Commission (1937) on a Jewish Homeland in Palestine


I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place.

https://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/Уинстон_Черчилль#Без_даты

[Kenxnumx]

Many thanks. When so many fake quotes are happy that there are still real ones :)

[Rwmos]

I'm surprised that you really didn't know this quote. In general, I was crazy. when I came across a little book with his pearls ... He will plug any Goebbels in the belt, by the way, "a lie repeated many times - become true" - Goebbels said about English propaganda, but its most prominent representative was exactly the fascist Churchill

[Town Hall]

Quote: RWMos

https://ru.wikiquote.org/wiki/Уинстон_Черчилль#Без_даты

Yes ... Wikiquote top of seriousness as a source. Only Marzilka is cooler

[Skay]

it was decided to declare 25 May the day of the struggle against totalitarianism

It is time to introduce a day of struggle with democracy and tolerance.

[Slon_on]

Oh, Europe - a many-faced anus! They don’t know, go that 25 of May is actually the Day of the Liberation of Africa. But seriously, some European countries are I.V. Stalin owe their existence.

[Kenxnumx]

Today is the emoticon day

[Umalta]

Read the manual, who and when and what efforts did you make for Israel to arise.

[Kenxnumx]

And who did. Is it not Stalin? Oh, what kind Stalin — the USSR and the satellites voted for the partition, and then sold the weapons (old and unnecessary by the way) at a high price. So Stalin decided his interest - he wanted Israel to be socialist. And you know what’s funny - Israel was socialist. Another thing is not funny - if there hadn’t been a division, then Hagan would have torn Arabs anyway, they would have sold weapons and other good people, but there would have been no hemorrhoids with territories

[Umalta]

Yes, my dear opponent, the figures from Europe so dear to your heart have forgotten to classify those whom they condemn and prohibit the organization of Orthodox Jews, so give them power, they would cut all Arabs to the root, and they have influence on Israeli politics, maybe that's why the conflict still unsolvable ?!

[Kenxnumx]

Ultraorthodoxes are just against the state of Israel, as it is not funny, and the most repulsed of them help the Arabs. In general, unlike radical Muslims, Orthodox Christians are quite harmless. You just do not know. And they have almost no influence on politics - their influence in the kneset is negligible. And Arabs themselves are much more slaughtered by Arabs than even the most warlike Jews can imagine. What you still do not know about Israel - you can ask.

[Umalta]

There is an opinion among the Jews that the time has not come for the restoration of the state of Israel, but I'm not talking about them.

[Umalta]

Yes, of course, no one is going to compare the Orthodox with ISIS, but about harmlessness, it’s for nothing that they serve with their views, well, in particular, some Israeli special forces units are equipped with them. By the way, the issue of banning their service in the army is being decided now

[Kenxnumx]

The opposite is true. They say that they sufficiently protect Israel with their prayers. Although, of course, some serve in the army, but in separate units, because they need to observe certain religious conditions

[Umalta]

I saw the video, take my word for it, unfortunately I can’t give the link, the escort was in Russian, the text was laudable, and the decision to prohibit the orthodox from serving is now being decided at the legislative level and the orthodox are protesting.

[Umalta]

Dear opponent, gentlemen from Europe forgot to condemn the organizations of orthodox Jews, which in their outlook are close to Nazi, and they have influence on Israeli politics, maybe that's why there is still no peace there (I understand that there are Muslim terrorist organizations) ?!

[Kenxnumx]

You have a mess in your head. There are no orthodox Jewish terrorist organizations. By the way, did you personally see at least one Orthodox, talked to him? Maybe this is your worldview close to fascism.

[Umalta]

About Israel, I know a lot of things from my wife’s brother there, so draw conclusions, and to you my good advice if you consider the Russian Federation your Motherland, well, at least the second, then love her and her story, don’t let your nose be scolded by all the villains-enemies, let them figure out their history and their sins, but there are enough of them, and if not, where did the Russian language come from? Or do you spit in the well from which they drank ?! Then shame on you and you are not worthy of controversy.

[Kenxnumx]

Respected. There is no Russian, Israeli, American history. There is a story in general. The school teaches patriotic versions and this is true. Here we try to understand how it really was. And when it turns out that Russians are not fluffy like their neighbors, this should not break the pattern. This is the norm. If you try to study history, then you will argue in any case in order to know the truth.

[Berg berg]

And the Russian people in response condemned the Churchill and Roosevelt regimes, it is time to grow old from the history of the struggle against fascism.

[Reptiloid]

It’s worth remembering that the first camps were created by the British

[Kenxnumx]

The Spaniards are the first. General Valeriano Weyler Nicolau, Governor of Cuba, first established the camp in 1896, where he drove the local population to have complete freedom of action in the fight against the rebels. About 400.000 Cubans — old people, women, and children — were locked up in a walled fence. No one knows the exact number of victims, but it could reach 100.000 - every fourth prisoner.

[Reptiloid]

Interestingly, I often met about the camps during the Boer War, as the first. It seems that the site also had an article ....
But now I first read about the camps during the civil war in the states. As for the first. Even earlier. So the first ones are in English.

[armata_armata]

It’s time for the European Parliament to work out thermonuclear

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

One thing I can’t understand is why our parliament does not condemn anyone and does not require compassion to the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those whom Hitler’s European allies killed, why they do not condemn the treaties of the Europeans with the Nazis, why in the end they won’t say who and how from the European judges and how many fought against the USSR, why they won’t condemn the USA and accuse that they put all Japanese in the USA in concentration camps and much more can be condemned ... there will be little sense, but there will be a lot of noise. Enough to be silent.

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

One thing I can’t understand is why our parliament does not condemn anyone and does not require compassion to the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those whom Hitler’s European allies killed, why they do not condemn the treaties of the Europeans with the Nazis, why in the end they won’t say who and how from the European judges and how many fought against the USSR, why they won’t condemn the USA and accuse that they put all Japanese in the USA in concentration camps and much more can be condemned ... there will be little sense, but there will be a lot of noise. Enough to be silent.

[Georgievic]

Cool promise! Lavrov's diary!

[bzbo]

Why did you forget Churchill?

[Umalta]

In short, this "regime" made it possible for their meeting to be such a petty and petty bunch of mostly small US mongrels.

[iouris]

Really. Stalin's main "crime" was that he left the country with nuclear weapons.

[Sergst]

Quote: tihonmarine

I say again, it was not necessary to free Europe ...

Not this way. It was necessary to release. There was no need to leave.

[iouris]

Quote: Sergst

There was no need to leave.

Already gone. And this place is taken. Now - either beat off your own, or leave completely. Quietly so, imperceptibly.

[Georgievic]

Just in officialdom send in three letters and do not bother!

[GABALIS]

Eurogamaseki resent

[Operator]

The State Duma of the Russian Federation flaps its ears - where is the resolution condemning the European Union for the whitewashing of Nazism in the Baltic states and in Ukraine (incidentally, the criminal act is in accordance with the decisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal)?

[Umalta]

Well, you are real estate, money, children over the hill, they are not ours at all.

[kefan]

If the enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right - golden words, there is nothing more to add!

[Million]

They are still afraid of Stalin! And our villains and foreigners!

[pepel]

How much more will Russia pay these cattle all kinds of fees to hang out in this gadyushnik? !!!!!!!! Need to get out of these "organizations".

[arnulla]

Regarding Stalin, all claims to rodents)) According to Khrushchev and Brezhnev Khokhlov))

[4UMA]

I propose introducing a criminal article for denying the positive role of Stalin in the history of our state, let them try to discuss it later!

[tralmaster]

Once again confirmed the saying that wherever you kiss them around Oppa.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I don’t know ... on the one hand, Stalin’s figure is rather ambiguous. I just lived in a small Siberian village - where there were about the same number of exiles as the Komsomol members (Komsomol construction - gold was mined). In order not to be unfounded - Yan Vitoldovich, a minister of some of the Baltic republics, a normal man - soared that I envy the Russian, unfortunately I don’t remember my name. We had a lot of them there. But on the other hand, Stalin received a country with a plow, and left a great power with an atomic bomb. Is he right or wrong? I think right.

[LeonidL]

You can’t wash a black male to white ... From Goebels, Rezunov and Bunichy to the EU and Vitrovich, everyone is trying to misrepresent the history of the USSR-Russia, but, as Stalin said, the wind of history mercilessly scatters garbage. Our business is to remember and preserve the real story and pass it on to future generations.

[Alexey from Perm]

Well, why did we pay membership fees to this organization? What would they blame us and our history for our money?

[wooja]

It is indicative ... there is something to think about, it is impossible to "whitewash" Stalinism - let the liberals jump with delight, but it is possible to figure it out, and the communists will start squealing ..., in essence, a ban on knowledge has been introduced. Freedom of thought is again banned ..., the union of liberals and communists is evident, neither one nor the other can not tolerate this period in the country's history --- they are afraid of the disgusting truth ..., liberalism and communism are two sides of the same coin. ..- totalitarianism, and what form it takes is another question, there is too much in common between liberals and communists ...

[dimasster]

It would be better if they condemned all their incursions into our country and the killing of tens of millions of our compatriots.

[Vadim T.]

Why is there still no reaction from the Russian leadership? Why is the Foreign Ministry, the State Duma and the government silent? Do not know what to answer? Or are they afraid of personal sanctions?
And for the power they are not offended?

[georggy]

Why is there still no reaction from the Russian leadership? Why is the Foreign Ministry silent?

Westerners are they.
Do not bark at the owners.
Payments and debts in the EP pay.

[Nitochkin]

Wasserman about Stalin.

[Umalta]

Great movie, respect !!!

[Ehanatone]

We are kind of, like kind of!,
formally sovereign state, and it is not their geyrastic affair, to climb into our internal affairs with their toy snout ...
Let them with your migrants, to begin with a rascal, who’s the boss there now ...!

[Rimlianin]

Stalin must be judged by its own people. He is not an international criminal, what would the European Parliament and other The Hague give him an assessment. The Russians and other peoples of the USSR should condemn Stalin for creating a political system under which such massive abuses of the law were possible, for the criminal prosecution of at least some opposition, for the destruction of most command personnel before the war. Whoever says about his economic successes, about the accelerated modernization of agriculture and industry, the army, let him look at neighboring Finland, which until 17 was part of Russia. Where she was and what she became. Without the Stalin.

[EvilLion]

Tie up with the use of cigarettes from "Ogonyok".

Finland was a Swedish colony before Russia, and the Finns were not allowed into decent places there. Then she was a part of Russia on the right "to receive to eat, but not to give anything herself." Your money, your army, no taxes in the fed. budget, except that the portrait of the king in the state. institutions. 40 years later, the Swedes who stopped by were already freaking out, how well the Finns began to live. What did Finland become then? Yes, in general, an ordinary neutral state, which Stalin put his brains into, so that for all the hatred of the Finns for the Russians, the Finnish authorities still understand that all their well-being is the result of economic ties with the USSR and now with the Russian Federation, despite the fact that even the USSR did not prevent the Finns from being friends with the West.

[Rimlianin]

About Finland is really a moot point ... and the rest? Wasn't that all?

[Umalta]

You have chosen the wrong term, not to judge, but to discuss !!! Europe does not have the right to put its snout in this matter, since they are even allegedly unable to justify any crimes (well, I don’t even want to hear a piece about the German rape)!

[Incvizitor]

How dare they even say anything about Stalin? They are not worth all the disgusting Europe and the dirt from his boots.

[Nitarius]

))) I’ll hang a picture of Stalin on my car))) in honor of this))

[Alex66]

It’s not the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that worries them, but the experience of economic transformations under Stalin, when industry grew by tens of percent, and not as it is now +/- calculation error. They are afraid that we will use Stalin’s experience and restore our economy and will not sell them oil, gas and forests for free.

[Umalta]

God willing!!!, first we need to work very hard on the fate of some gentlemen!!!

[gafarovsafar]

so you pay them dues. You give them money and in return they get money

[Unknown]

yes, that’s how it is - I.V. STALIN, Europe, then annoyed. so many years have passed since his death, but hearing his name makes their knees tremble. and look how cunningly they formulated....... The European Parliament honored the memory of the victims of Stalinism, Nazism...... Stalinism, this is clearly Russia, or the USSR, this is clear to all of Europe, and vague, Nazism, understand, as you wish. They would have taken it and said that they were victims of Hitlerism, but no, so as not to offend the Germans and others. This is all of Europe, it grows there.

[ak747]

The European Parliament equated those who lit the ovens of Auschwitz with those who extinguished them.

[georggy]

The European Parliament did not find any other agenda for itself other than discussing Joseph Stalin and his rule in the USSR.

They will not calm down because not a single representative of the applicant, nor our Kremlin bosses, can hold a candle to Stalin.

[EvilLion]

Let the European Parliament bring a court decision recognizing the Stalinist regime as criminal. Their Fuhrers have plenty of them.

[Roman070280]

Russia "is trying to whitewash the crimes of Stalinism, which is part of the information war and a threat to European democracy"

Well, as if I don’t consider Stalinism something black in order to whitewash it...
If anything needs to be whitewashed, it’s Putinism...

[RAE8]

It’s interesting that our leadership worked well with the European Parliament - we give them money, they condemn us. However.

[Cat man null]

Quote: RAE8

It’s interesting that our leadership worked well with the European Parliament - we give them money, they condemn us

Hmm... let's open Vika:

 European Parliament

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%95%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82

Not to be confused with the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe - an organization of 47 European states

 Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%8F_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%95%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%8B

Not to be confused with the European Parliament, one of the legislative bodies of the European Union.

PACE (in which “we have money”) and the European Parliament (which is rude) are two completely different organizations

[spectr]

Apparently there is an order for anti-Russian themes, but topics are difficult to come by. Maybe they will think and create hysteria, for example, on the topic “Skripal version 2.0” or “MH17 version 2.0”. It’s a shame that troll factories are being created. Although, IMHO, the main attack may begin no earlier than 2022, in order to try to pull off the same trick as in Poland and Ukraine.

[Kontrik]

Stalin is hated by those for whom he first created the Jewish Autonomous Region in the Far East.. Well, then the Jews were not released, understanding that they would all be taken out.. and that’s what happened!
Right now we don’t know what to do with Israel... How they got us!

[ZVS]

Let these fascists of Europe stick their tongues up their anuses and keep quiet! Stalin's state gave them the opportunity to live and reproduce. And now they think that they can rule this state?

[Kelwin]

Bring the newcomer into the meeting room already, I'm tired of this bunch of condoms...

[PavelM]

The modern "elite" has a big problem of a double consciousness: on the one hand, they accuse the West of falsifying History, on the other hand, they rip out, renounce a whole piece of their own History and their SUCCESSFUL leader of the country, thereby rewriting History themselves. They are accused of demolishing monuments, but their monuments to Stalin were demolished and do not allow them to appear again. This is a typical rewriting of History. But what is the reason for such a suicidal behavior for the country?
- both Putin and Medvedev look pale compared to Stalin, and therefore it is better to forget him. Ambitions again: at the Victory Parade on May 9, 2019, not a word was said about Stalin, and Putin was called commander-in-chief.
Are they really trying to replace Commander-in-Chief Stalin with Putin in people’s minds?
In short, what matters to us is not what they say in the West, but to understand why and why our authorities renounce the history of their own country.

[Dmitry Y.]

What are they all about? OUR meddling with history??? We don’t interfere with them, we’re sick of them already!!!

[high]

The European Parliament approved a resolution that condemns “Stalinism, Nazism and other totalitarian and authoritarian regimes” and calls on Russia not to whitewash the crimes committed by the Soviet regime.

Hitler and Stalin were ruthless dictators who committed mass murder. It is impossible to imagine a statue of Hitler in Berlin or anywhere else in Germany, but monuments to Stalin in Russia, in recent years, have been erected....

[Petr7]

Quote: stock buildbat

First, let the countries that support Nazism be kicked out of the "gayrosoyuz". Clowns are incompetent.

if they throw you out, then there will be no one except Russia (and Belarus, if there is one there)

[LeftPers]

“..The European Parliament condemned Russia for trying to “whitewash the Stalinist regime”... Wouldn’t this gay parliament have gone somewhere so far that even Iskander couldn’t reach him