In the United States conducted a simulation of a nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States

In the United States, they simulated a nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States. The authors of the model were scientists from the project "Science and Global Security" (Science and Global Security, SGS) at Princeton University. 4-minute video with simulation posted on the official website of the project on YouTube.

Scientists from Princeton University have developed a simulation of armed conflict between the US and Russia using nuclear weapons. According to the developed model, the conflict begins with the use of conventional weapons, but then Russia, in order to deter the offensive of the US and NATO forces, deals a warning nuclear strike on the border region of Germany and Poland. In response, the United States is delivering a nuclear strike in the Kaliningrad region and the conflict escalates into a tactical nuclear war in Europe.

In the future, the parties exchange nuclear strikes, which already cover the entire territory of Europe and extend to the United States and Russia. The conflict escalates into a global nuclear war. According to scientists, in the first hours alone over 90 million people will be killed and wounded.

SGS has developed a simulation of the likely escalation of hostilities between the United States and Russia, taking into account the realistic positions of nuclear forces, targets and estimates of the number of deaths. It is estimated that more than 90 million people will be killed and wounded in the first few hours of the conflict.

- says the project website.

Scientists emphasized that they developed this model of nuclear conflict to show the catastrophic use of nuclear weapons in a possible war between Russia and the United States.

Comments

[Victor_B]

to show the catastrophic use of nuclear weapons in a possible war between Russia and the United States.

The task has been set - because of the fault of Russia, a nuclear war begins.
As a result, there are no winners.
And it is not clear to what tune the "uchOnye" danced? What have you proved?
In addition to the axiom - animal aggressiveness of the bloody Putin’s blood.
Just kicked Russia again?
And, like, the white and fluffy states suffered as a result ...

[210ox]

Here an ordinary conflict can lead to SUCH ..

[To be or not to be]

PLAN + A +
The development of a conventional war between the United States and the Russian Federation in Europe into a general nuclear war.
The simulation is based on the real structure of troops. Targets of destruction and estimated losses.

1. NUCLEAR warning strikes.
Modeling began in the context of a conventional arms conflict (Conventional conflict)
In the hope of stopping the advance of the US-NATO troops, Russia from a base near Kaliningrad launched a tactical nuclear strike. (on the map, a blow was struck at the junction of the borders of Poland-Germany-Czech Republic)
NATO responded with a single bombing attack on a given Russian missile base

2. TACTICAL PLAN
The nuclear threshold has been passed. The war escalates into a tactical nuclear war in Europe. Russia uses 300 BGs at NATO bases and advancing troops.

((On the map — strikes are carried out by forces and means of air defense and south-eastern missile defense against objects in Germany (main effort), Poland. Baltic countries. Turkey (ab Incirlik. Naval base Izmir. Naval base in the ADAN area) Spain Bulgaria? Ukraine? And NATO base on Crete. Not under attack from France. Norway. Czech Republic. Slovakia, Finland ..)))
NATO responded with tactical nuclear weapons - the air bombs.
((on the map with ab Incirlik and Avb in Germany. Italy. and the United Kingdom) x
In three hours, the loss of 2.6 million people

3. DRIVING PLAN
With the destruction of Europe, NATO forces 600 BG from land mines and nuclear submarines of the United States delivers a strategic nuclear strike in order to destroy the Russian strategic forces
((on the map. First, rockets from ground mines will be launched. Then from the submarine from one area and to the south of Iceland and from the TOZ of two areas east of Japan))

Before the loss of its forces. Russia carries out a reciprocal-strategic nuclear strike from mine .mobile launchers and nuclear submarines (nuclear submarines and Pacific Fleet) at facilities on the territory of the United States
In 45 minutes, 3.4 million people lost.

4. counterweight plan (countervalue plan)
In order to prevent the restoration of other parties. Russia and NATO (PYSY ... NATO — notice, not the USA) each side applies the 30 most densely populated cities and economic centers of the other side, applying one goal depending on the population of 5-10 BG
((from the map .. US nuclear submarines from 2 regions south of Iceland and 5 regions from the Pacific zone from the Russian Federation SF — three districts and Pacific Fleet-3 districts))
In 45 minutes, a loss of 85 million people
== Total losses of 91.5 million people, of which irrevocable -34.1 million and wounded -57.4 million people === It is indicated that the death rate in the long term from the consequences of the applied nuclear weapons will increase

[Oden280]

They have a crazy plan. Some kind of sequential escalation of the conflict. 2,3,4 points will be at the same time, plus the action of strategic aviation and boats from the Kyrgyz Republic will be added.

[To be or not to be]

You are too categorical in your conclusions.
It is easy to trace in a series of NATO Allied Forces in Europe and the Armed Forces of the European National Armed Forces. USA and Canada. Linking them together as options for warfare: -crisis. - armed conflict - conventional warfare - tactical nuclear weapons - universal nuclear weapons (STRATKOM exercises ..) ..........
This simulation of a variant of the war in Europe, of course, raises many questions. But. this is their vision and we don’t know what they hid behind the scenes ..
And pay attention to the time:
- point 2-3 hours
point 3 and 4 for 45 hours ..

[Shurik70]

I read somehow an interesting theory.
It is now believed that stars like our Sun are formed from dusty nebulae left over from previous exploding stars. Part of the dust forms a disk around the young star, from which planets are formed. Since iron particles, in addition to gravity, have magnetic properties, they "stick together" faster, so the cores of terrestrial planets are formed from iron. The center of gravity appears, attracting other dust.
Other dust that has fallen to the core from impacts and compression is heated, MELTS. In the melt, heavier elements sink to the bottom. Thus, a layer of superheavy radioactive elements is formed around the iron core. It turns out a natural nuclear reactor with self-regulation. If where it goes into spacing, ascending convective flows are formed, the radioactive layer becomes thinner, and the reactor stalls.

If at the same time, from different sides, to make shock loads - this condenses the radioactive layers, and convection may not cope. The increase in the number of earthquakes is due to the reaction of this natural nuclear reactor to nuclear tests. Well, the rest of the climate is due to industrial activity and increasing activity of volcanoes. This is clearly visible on the chart.

In the event of a global war, the reactor will be taken apart. The planet will turn into a huge atomic bomb. The whole planet will turn with an asteroid belt.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Shurik70

I read somehow an interesting theory.
It is now believed that stars like our Sun are formed from dusty nebulae left over from previous exploding stars. Part of the dust forms a disk around the young star, from which planets are formed. Since iron particles, in addition to gravity, have magnetic properties, they "stick together" faster, so the cores of terrestrial planets are formed from iron. The center of gravity appears, attracting other dust.
Other dust that has fallen to the core from impacts and compression is heated, MELTS. In the melt, heavier elements sink to the bottom. Thus, a layer of superheavy radioactive elements is formed around the iron core. It turns out a natural nuclear reactor with self-regulation. If where it goes into spacing, ascending convective flows are formed, the radioactive layer becomes thinner, and the reactor stalls.

If at the same time, from different sides, to make shock loads - this condenses the radioactive layers, and convection may not cope. The increase in the number of earthquakes is due to the reaction of this natural nuclear reactor to nuclear tests. Well, the rest of the climate is due to industrial activity and increasing activity of volcanoes. This is clearly visible on the chart.

In the event of a global war, the reactor will be taken apart. The planet will turn into a huge atomic bomb. The whole planet will turn with an asteroid belt.

Are you serious? I don’t even know what to say so as not to offend

[Rey_ka]

In general, we all die! Well, rightly so, we could not cope ..

[Dali]

Quote: Vol4ara

Are you serious? I don’t even know what to say so as not to offend

I wonder why copy the entire message, just to fart about anything !!!
Do you think the above chart is a lie?
So bring your counterarguments to this message and to the schedule!
And so you are the trolll ...

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Dali

Quote: Vol4ara

Are you serious? I don’t even know what to say so as not to offend

I wonder why copy the entire message, just to fart about anything !!!
Do you think the above chart is a lie?
So bring your counterarguments to this message and to the schedule!
And so you are the trolll ...

And you yourself do not see counterarguments in the text, do you need to chew? The Chiksulub Crater, a meteorite that formed it, released an energy of about 1 billion kilotons, and this is not the largest crater. Uranium 235 has a critical mass of 45 kg. This is how ignorant one must be in order to publish such nonsense as in the commentary above and in order to protect it. It’s true that they recently noticed at VO that there is nothing to blame for the victims of the USE, when adults give such nonsense ... I won’t write about the only natural analogue of a nuclear reactor in the world, I’m not a philanthropist, you want to know - pay money or google

[Shurik70]

Quote: Vol4ara

Chiqsulub Crater, a meteorite that formed it, released about 1 billion kilotons of energy

Falls of asteroids, explosions of volcanoes - these are all "one-time" actions. Between which years passed (and sometimes millions of years). One, even very strong, impact will lead to overheating of only one section of the planetary reactor. Yes, a couple of centuries after that, within a radius of several thousand kilometers from the fallen asteroid, there will be increased seismic activity. Throw a hot nut into a basin of water - the water around it will boil, but in general the basin will only warm up a little.

And nuclear testing is constant pressure from different angles. One-time blows constantly heat up the reactor, and convection of the superheated melt can no longer cope. Comparing with a basin is a slow heating of the whole bottom. Water does not boil, but all soars.
Nuclear war - numerous attacks from all sides. It will end with an explosion.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Shurik70

Quote: Vol4ara

Chiqsulub Crater, a meteorite that formed it, released about 1 billion kilotons of energy

Falls of asteroids, explosions of volcanoes - these are all "one-time" actions. Between which years passed (and sometimes millions of years). One, even very strong, impact will lead to overheating of only one section of the planetary reactor. Yes, a couple of centuries after that, within a radius of several thousand kilometers from the fallen asteroid, there will be increased seismic activity. Throw a hot nut into a basin of water - the water around it will boil, but in general the basin will only warm up a little.

And nuclear testing is constant pressure from different angles. One-time blows constantly heat up the reactor, and convection of the superheated melt can no longer cope. Comparing with a basin is a slow heating of the whole bottom. Water does not boil, but all soars.
Nuclear war - numerous attacks from all sides. It will end with an explosion.

Ahah, oh god, what are you talking about: D
Shurik, and there is a VVER or RBMK reactor below? :)

[Umalta]

Humanity, by and large, is a parasite that, with all its technologies, has not passed the apple peel on which it is located, but the hypothesis is funny, interesting.

[Oden280]

Point 3 and 4, there are not hours, but minutes. And their entire plan is based on the concept of limited war. Little Vovochka said that if the war started, ours would hit everyone at once and the mattresses would not be able to sit out in a puddle.

[Fanis]

Quote: Oden280

Point 3 and 4, there are not hours, but minutes. And their entire plan is based on the concept of limited war. Little Vovochka said that if the war started, ours would hit everyone at once and the mattresses would not be able to sit out in a puddle.

They will not beat everywhere, abroad, with our bureaucrats, children, their homes, families ..

[Marconi41]

So-so plan. Great Britain remained unanswered. And the development of the situation is delusional.

[gfs84]

Part three raises questions - Russia responds to the US strategic strike, but the main target is the US center (probably the base in Montana), from where the missiles have already been fired, there is no point in such actions ... A retaliatory strike with a 90% probability will fall on the western and eastern coasts, without waiting for stage 4 "counterweight plan".

[Proxima]

The main thing is China remained clean, not a single explosion in its territory! Just like in their parable that a monkey sits on a tree and watches two tigers fight . Maybe the Chinese sponsored this video?

[astepanov]

Quote: Proxima

The main thing is China remained clean, not a single explosion in its territory!

Quote: svp67

I would not be surprised if soon the "troll factory" from Russia is accused of making this film. It should be demanded as often as possible in net.

This film is not about who is right or wrong, but about the terrible possible consequences. Do you really want to see a couple of billion more Chinese, Indians, and Pakistanis join the ninety million dead Russians, Europeans, Americans? What will become easier? I agree with one:

Quote: svp67

It is necessary, as often as possible, to net demant.

svp67, did you finish school?

[RideMaster]

China will not be left to receive both from the United States and from us. The United States will also beat Mexico cube vennssluhe and others who are close and do not like. China will have to beat Japan and Thailand in the USA and so on, plus India.
Throwing autobombs with tiao they bent against Russia will not work. Will have immediately with apl and mines.

[To be or not to be]

"A smart monkey sits on the top of a hill and watches two tigers fight in the valley."
(Mao Zedong.)

[Voyager]

Well, in general it is quite logical that Russia will be the first to use nuclear weapons against a much larger enemy army.

[Rostislav]

Yes of course. NATO is actively preparing for war; troops are getting closer to Russia's borders. They will attack and wait until Russia ripens for a retaliatory strike with a vigorous baton against a much larger enemy. Yeah.

[voyaka uh]

Four reinforced battalions of 800 each in three republics and Poland, and another US tank brigade in western Poland.
Approximately 5000 NATO troops.

[ltc35]

If these 5000 people sat quietly at the bases and did not arrange exercises at the very borders, very, very demonstratively, then no one would notice them. "Very, very demonstratively" - this is when the legend of the teachings specifically indicates who the enemy is, without hiding behind terms such as "serer" and "southern".

[voyaka uh]

Every year they have a rotation of personnel. How much comes, as much leaves. Observe. When new ones come, do exercises.
This is annoying, but the number of soldiers is not increasing. And this number is clearly not enough for offensive operations. And for defense too, by the way. In ground combat, they are doomed.
But these four battalions provide "NATO presence" ("banner").

[ltc35]

Apparently this number of military personnel is just enough for irritation and provocation + bellicose rhetoric of the leadership of these countries.

[voyaka uh]

And there is. The task was: to calm the population and leadership of these countries, frightened after Crimea. Placed on a battalion with NATO banners.

[Proxima]

Quote: voyaka uh

And there is. The task was: to calm terrified after Crimea population and the leadership of these countries. Placed on a battalion with NATO banners.

Of course, the whole world is so scared! And the fact that your Israel occupied the Golan Heights, Palestine, the West Bank of the Jordan River - the world applauded directly! What is the most scanty thing, that you did not scare anyone, there is simply no faith in these UN resolutions. You have real followers, for example, Indonesia, which occupied East Timor and destroyed 2/3 of the population of this state. Keep it up (God's chosen )!

[Sarduor]

It’s better when these 5000 people are in plain sight and you know what they’re doing, rather than guessing where the blow will be

[Serg koma]

Quote: voyaka uh

Four reinforced battalions of 800 each in three republics and Poland, and another US tank brigade in western Poland.
Approximately 5000 NATO troops.

+ Armed forces of the countries of NATO members. Or are you sure that they will sit on the sidelines, watch how representatives of star-striped war? So you can recount the number of aircraft ready in combat at the European theater.
And does

Quote: Rostislav

NATO is actively preparing for war; troops are getting closer to Russia's borders.

Is there something wrong in your opinion?

"The first victim of war is the truth." Johnson Hirum

[Vadim237]

In reality, only Poland is ready for military action from NATO - everyone else is past.

[Berkut752]

Yes, perhaps the first one, only inflicts its FIRST, IMMEDIATE, in America (intentionally with a small letter).

[To be or not to be]

Voyager (Andrey) Yesterday, 13: 32
"..Russia will be the first to use nuclear weapons against a much larger enemy army" "".

This is the novelty of this simulation of the war in Europe. Russia is the first to deliver, as they write, a "warning" tactical nuclear strike against the advancing US and NATO forces.
During the confrontation between the USSR and the US-NATO, Soviet forces attacked all NATO exercises and, when the main defensive line of NATO was threatened, the US was the first to use tactical nuclear weapons

[Voyager]

You noticed it well, yes

[keeper03]

Let your simulation stuffed in ears US Congress, the Pentagon and NATO !!!

[GibSoN]

The task has been set - because of the fault of Russia, a nuclear war begins.

There is no problem! Only in the heads of cheers .. This is a standard simulation, one in a thousand .. maybe more. In this particular simulation, it is taken into account that the Russian Federation will in no way be able to withstand the US and NATO with conventional weapons. This, in general, is indicated in the article. Actually there are doubts? Everything else is from a finger.

[bayard]

Quote: Victor_B

And it is not clear to what tune the "uchOnye" danced? What have you proved?

There is always one pipe, but a song ... a song on the theme "let's all disarm!" ...
Ask why, and why did the Americans sing?
They have almost no operational nuclear weapons. The last weapons-grade plutonium 239 and uranium 235 was acquired in 1989, and the last ammunition from this good was collected in 1992. The maximum shelf life of nuclear munitions (pieces \ pieces of plutonium \ uranium in ammunition) is 30 years.
This is maximum !
It’s no longer possible - nuclear processes occurring in the warhead, accumulation of transuranium elements ... in general, the ammunition will not work or will not work normally. Ammunition must be discarded, and the warhead sent to a radiochemical plant for processing.
But in America, there has long been NO (!) No radiochemical plant capable of producing weapons-grade uranium / plutonium!
Absolutely not !
And competences are lost - specialists, technologies, equipment ...
Of course they are trying to build a new one, but ... they DO NOT WORK.
And Congress allocates money for this several times less than requested ...
That is why even Obama started the song for the first time: "Let's all disarm!" , "Let's all give up nuclear weapons" ...
But then they still had it. It still remained.
And now ...
At best, several hundred munitions on ALL types of carriers.
And the latter will be written off in 2022.
The latter.
They are now on the Tridents-2 ... The Minutemans are already unarmed.

That is why so many "independent scientists" have appeared, advocating for peace and scaring the "nuclear war" ... They need a background to try to achieve voluntary nuclear disarmament from countries that have it ... Or, as a last resort, to get commitments from others not to use this weapon first ...
Two years later, America will lose its last nuclear teeth and it ... scared ...

[svp67]

I would not be surprised if soon the "troll factory" from Russia is accused of making this film. It should be demanded as often as possible in net.

[GibSoN]

I would not be surprised if soon the "troll factory" from Russia is accused of making this film. It should be demanded as often as possible in net.

And what, it became a shame that "work" on the side is allowed?

[Nycomed]

The example is contagious! They also began to shoot "cartoons" and not about Tom and Jerry, unfortunately ...

[Mestny]

Get rid of MODE - help save the USA!
I give for your slogan.

[mr_ise]

To insidious Russians did not start the war first, they urgently need to get ahead, delivering preemptive nuclear strikes as a prevention of the world famous Russian deceit. Russian guilt has already been proved, it’s time to press the button

That's just the authors of the video completely forgot about air defense

[Chaldon48]

The US has experience, it remains to add bombs and blood and the script is ready. I wonder who non-nuclear weapons in this scenario was the first to strike.

[Kuroneko]

They built another supercomputer in the USA. Set him a task
predictions of the future. They called President Clinton to
to show. Clinton thought and thought and asked:
- When will the 3rd World War begin?
- In 2xxxx year.
Clinton thinks, what else to ask.
- And how much will Pepsi-Cola cost after the 3rd World War?
“Pepsi will cost fifty cents.”

[Serg koma]

Quote: Kuroneko

Clinton thinks, what else to ask.
- And how much will Pepsi-Cola cost after the 3rd World War?
“Pepsi will cost fifty cents.”

Probably after that he said

Either humanity will end war, or war will end humanity

. John Kennedy

[Loess]

The quality of the cartoon, of course, is not so hot ... Only, it seems to me that as a result of the mutual exchange of massive nuclear strikes "under the guise", China and many others will get decently ... And from both parties to the conflict. So that as a result of the death or serious weakening of Russia and the United States, those who, for various reasons, tried to stay away from the conflict, could not take advantage of the fruits of this war.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Less

Only, it seems to me that as a result of the mutual exchange of massive nuclear strikes "under the guise", China will also get decently

Absolutely right! China definitely will not stay on the side of the monkey sitting on the bank of the river. Celestial even such (as in the cartoon) the result is quite satisfied. Although the infection will be global on its northern borders.

[dauria]

but then Russia, in order to deter the offensive of the US and NATO forces, strikes a warning nuclear strike on the border region of Germany and Poland

Conclusion-erase Poland in advance from the map of Europe, dividing it fraternally. This time forever. But actually 90 million is not enough. According to the calculations of 1979, 110-120 million for each side (USA, USSR). Although after that all sorts of WWS, NSV were, maybe so ..

[asv363]

The number of BB and UBC under the first WWS agreement between the USSR and the USA was 25, i.e. in the amount of 000. Now only 50 for two.

[Adimius38]

let Americans watch such videos more often, only when they hide under the tables when the siren sounds, only then nuclear war can be avoided. The Soviet Union always held a finger over the red button and in the USA they knew it and it was sobering great. And despite all the feuds and local conflicts, they always agreed on the non-use of nuclear weapons.

[kebeskin]

We must go to Alaska. Judging by the video, nothing will fly there.

[forty-eighth]

In the computer game Fallout 3, after the nuclear fox, the Chinese landed in Alaska. There was a battle for Anchorage

[Grits]

Quote: kebeskin

We must go to Alaska. Judging by the video, there’s nothing

So much of Siberia and the Far East do not fall. even nothing came to Vladivostok. Despite the fact that there is a naval base there. But flew to Khabarovsk. Analysts are shitty ...

[Rey_ka]

then Nena Alaska and to the Bolshevik and Komsomolets islands

[Kuroneko]

Firstly, the cartoon is invalid because it still has an "unsinkable aircraft carrier" Crimea for some reason is NOT Russian. And this is already seriously changing the alignment and strategy.
Secondly, Sarmatians and other nuclear weapons capable of attacking the United States through the SOUTH Pole are not taken into account.
Thirdly, this "research" is the level of one party in the indie game DEFCON.

I wonder how much money and grants have been spent on this crap. = _ =
I'm not talking about Defcon. The game itself is great.

[engineer74]

I also remembered about Defcon when I saw a cartoon. In principle, such "studies" can be done in five pieces over the weekend, but who needs them?

[sergo1914]

An interesting option. There are several questions for the authors about the sequence of actions and some stages (including the missing ones). Obviously, the forecast is based on incomplete data. The more interesting it will be to compare.

[Antidote]

Are you sure you want to "compare" exactly?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Antidote

Are you sure you want to "compare" exactly?

I do not want. Is there a choice?

[Antidote]

The choice is always

[sergo1914]

Quote: Antidote

The choice is always

Not in this case.

[artifact]

I won’t be surprised if, on the basis of this video, they accuse Russia of aggression and impose sanctions

[HAM]

On the video, all of Russia is in military bases, and Europe and the states are white and fluffy, there are almost no bases around Russia ..

[rocket757]

Shaw there to predict, simulate? The planet may become uninhabitable ... if not all, then too much. Of course, the population will decrease, significantly, but the survivors will not see life as "sugar"!

[Kuroneko]

No, this is an intentional exaggeration-scarecrow (although useful, I note). Like the tales of a nuclear winter.
A true horror can happen only when using cobalt bombs or something like that. But even then, humanity will survive for itself. But how many tens of centuries in the development of civilization is reeling back - the question is different.

[rocket757]

Not a dado check, no need.
PEACE WORLD!

[Constructor68]

a deliberate exaggeration, a scarecrow (although useful, I note). Like the tales of a nuclear winter.

Just the tales you tell.

[Kuroneko]

If you object, then take the trouble to argue. Hopefully the arguments will not be on the level of "global warming". That there is ALSO an intensely implanted myth and a means of controlling / suppressing the pace of development of "catching up" countries.
Then I will give counter-arguments. Although they are knowledgeable people already known. Purely the study of history.

[Constructor68]

If you mind - then take the trouble to argue.

Well, you, too, in your objection to your interlocutor did not give any arguments above, referring to what they say is a scarecrow and generally fairy tales. Therefore, I answered in parity.
In general, a similar discussion at VO was already underway. And the only argument of the defenders of the theory that nuclear war practically does not carry any secondary infection or other defeats is a reference to the results of atmospheric explosions.

[Kuroneko]

And there was no argument. If he decided to object, he would, don’t worry. I just do not need to pre-fill a sheet of text and look for links to various documents.

By the way, we are hinted (at least on the topic of the insolvency of the theory of nuclear winter): natural volcanic eruptions are quite imaginary. Next - yourself. = 3

[Constructor68]

quite natural volcanic eruptions. Next - yourself. = 3

And this "argument" was chewed with donkey stubbornness. One demagogue I remember referred to the explosions of Krakatoa and others like them. And I made him a calculation on the knee for equivalents and damaging factors.

[Kuroneko]

You’d better make a calculation based on the mass of erupted volcanic ash (and how many nuclear explosions will be required to equal at least one Krakatau), and not on TNT equivalents. It will be more useful. The one who argued with you, most likely did not rummage in the subject. Not to mention the fact that after Krakatau (as well as many other major eruptions) we are still - SURPRISE! - do not live in the ice age.

[Constructor68]

Do not consider yourself smarter than others. Did. And he wrote how much soil is thrown out during a ground nuclear explosion. Contaminated soil. Do not repeat, still wrong.

[Kuroneko]

May I ask where did you get information about the mass of soil ejected during a nuclear explosion? The power of the warhead in kilotons also does not hurt to bring.
And - well, that’s how I am, I’m just kidding ... how much orders less he was in comparison with the same Krakatau? I will add that volcanoes, as a rule, also chad into the atmosphere with radionuclides.
О infected soil - also pleased. But here we are delving deeper into physics - in alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, their harmfulness (although there is certainly harm and definitely harm), the penetrating effect, and te te.
By the way - on reflection - Fukushima bombed for a long time. And many tons of extremely radioactive water were drained into the ocean, which is much worse than dust (because water and life are inseparable, and water is much more omnipresent). Which country abruptly began to die out after that? Well, if at all started, of course ...

[Ka-52]

May I ask where did you get information about the mass of soil ejected during a nuclear explosion? The power of the warhead in kilotons also does not hurt to bring.
And - well, that’s how I am, I’m just kidding ... how many orders of magnitude less did he find himself in comparison with the same Krakatau? I will add that volcanoes, as a rule, also chad into the atmosphere with radionuclides.

firstly, compared to running volcanoes to school! studying physics and arithmetic. Well, a little geology.
1. we take the amount of emission during a nuclear explosion in 1Mtn - 25 000m3
2. According to the Stockholm Institute for the Study of World Problems (SIPRI), the total warheads of the 5 largest countries are about 15500. Let us modestly take the average power of the 1st charge per 200kt
3. we consider the volume of total air emissions - 15500x0,2x25000 = 77 500 000m3 of soil
4. take the average density of the usual common soil (loam) - 1750 kg / m3
5. we consider the mass of the ejection - m = ρV = 1.35625 · 10 in the 14th degree of kg.
6. to compare, we take an asteroid that can reduce life on earth to the level of bacteria - Eros, diameter 35km, mass - 6,69 ⋅10 to the 15th degree kg. Almost close
in total it turns out that applying a very, very simplified example of comparison, your whole theory of "green" nuclear war is nonsense from not knowing.
Secondly,

About contaminated soil - also pleased. But here we are delving deeper into physics - in alpha, beta, and gamma radiation, their harmfulness (although there is certainly harm and definitely harm), the penetrating effect, and te te.
By the way - on reflection - Fukushima bombed for a long time.

just remember the operation Crossroads. I think that the explosion caused a powerful infection of the US Navy ships and the nearest water area
Just copy the text from the wiki, read

Baker was the second nuclear explosion that occurred close to the surface, which led to contamination of radioactive fission products of the environment [4]. "Self-cleaning" did not happen. As a result, the radiation ecology of the lagoon and target ships was disrupted. The scale of the problems appeared was much larger than expected before the tests [86].
During the explosion, Baker formed about one and a half kilograms of fission products [87] [88]. These products were completely mixed with two million tons of spray and sea sand, which ascended into the air in a column and formed the head of "cauliflower", and then fell back into the lagoon. Most of it remained in the lagoon and sank to the bottom or was carried out into the ocean by internal tidal and wind currents.

if it seems to you garbage, what else to discuss ... gamma, amega and nucleotides with focusim

[Vadim237]

From the physics of a nuclear explosion, 1 megaton emits 5000 tons of CO2 during an explosion and raises 250000 tons of dust and evaporates about 80000 more soil. You can multiply by the entire megatonnage of Russia and the United States and get the numbers while considering that more than half of the explosions will be airborne.

[Kuroneko]

That's what I’m talking about - Cropal. One volcano (well, if Krakatau was already mentioned, then we will continue with it) - by $ ral, sorry for my elven, one only by its release in 1883, roughly like the entire modern nuclear potential of the United States and Russia combined (divided by air explosions, intercepts and te te, and te pe - it’s not a megaton comparison, namely, the volume emissions) And he crap and before that eruptions. And just smoked for years, spewing thousands of tons of ash on a regular basis, too. And he is not alone. What one almost unpronounceable Erayvayoküdle is worth. What really what, and there are enough volcanoes on the planet. But do we have cores here ... er, volcanic winter? Yes, somehow not visible. On the contrary, green terrorists (well, excuse me, I can not use this Greenpeace bastard otherwise) are vying with each other about the GLOBAL FILLING.

[Ka-52]

read above

[Hort]

it will be terrible after the destruction of any storage facilities for infection, chemistry, ore production, nuclear power plants and flooding after the destruction of hydroelectric power stations

[Vadim237]

And there will be nuclear mummies everywhere - with radioactivity of more than 200 microroentgen, putrefactive bacteria and worms die per hour, all corpses will dry out and will not rot, such an effect is observed in Chernobyl.

[atakan]

Just nobody, okay?
Rumor has it that nuclear war has been repeatedly during these 20 thousand years.

[Oleg (Kharkov)]

Quote: Kuroneko

Like the tales of a nuclear winter.

I’m sure you don’t want to check it out or not. Even without a nuclear winter, the world will perish.

[pru-pavel]

I understand that you also watched Boyarshinov?

[Butchcassidy]

The music is chic, dark ambient. It is unclear why the strategic missile defense capabilities are not taken into account.

[Voyager]

And in my opinion a great video. It clearly shows that in the event of a mess, everyone will end. We know this very well, but many Americans are confident in their victory

[Grits]

Quote: Voyager

And in my opinion a great video. It clearly shows that in the event of a mess, everyone will end.

By the way, the end comes only for Russia, the USA and European countries. the rest quietly sat in the cellars

[Mountain shooter]

Is their brain atrophied? Yes, as soon as a nuclear strike is delivered on the territory of Russia with anything, everything that is in the arsenals will go "overseas" ... The scenario will not be at all what they think. And what remains of "Zaluzhia" will be finished off and plundered by "Latinos".

[Mavrikiy]

In the United States conducted a simulation of a nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States

Well done, noble dough drank.

The conflict escalates into a global nuclear war. According to scientists, only in the first hours over 90 million people will be killed and wounded.

Europe drinks / or swallows validol with buckets, China will not even smile, because where is the humor?

[Mestny]

Why should they smile? They have 90 million. This is so, small losses.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Mestny

Why should they smile? They have 90 million. This is so, small losses.

Mao-zedong in those days, with world losses of 300 mil. people asked what the problem is, there is no Europe, but China and socialism will remain.
Today you can all of Europe in the ass and that life will stop, no. Flutters, and then blooms, it has always been and will be. In the conflagration, life is reviving violently.
And let Europe scratch its eggs in front of the refrigerator, the choice is hers.

[gabonskijfront]

Born and live in Kaliningrad, we have many Germans here who did not travel from Kazakhstan to their historical homeland and settled here. I have five of them at work, Kuts, Blyfernits, Zaydlits, Schwab and Mathis. I often ask them whether they will go to bomb Berlin with me, of course, all the fuckers are fuckers, but I understand that they will be happy to cut Poles, Czechs and other Latvians, but categorically refuse to bomb Berlin.

[Hog]

Losses are too optimistic, in real life they will be many times more than ~ 300kk for sure.

[Barmaleyka]

Well, they give direct instant losses, but what will happen a little later ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

NO!!!! This movie does not attract the "Oscar", although all the traditions of Hollywood are observed ... Our Mosfilm needs to stage the same movie and show Europe at the Kansk Festival))) Although this film would not interfere with Europeans (especially Germans, Poles - it's useless) see, let them know that the Americans are not going to substitute their "breasts" for the Europeans, but on the contrary the first are given to the nuclear torn apart by the "Russian bear" - not to be confused with the bear from United Russia, which will be more terrible, since it kills both strangers and friends. The only thing that does not calm me down is that in the American film, more than one "vigorous" rocket does not get to where I live. So, judging by the film, I and the British will be the luckiest of all, who will not be shot either)))

[Duck]

Well, let's omit the fact that the evil Russians were the first to throw vigorous bombs, okay. But further on in the development of events, these scientists - "2 for knowledge of the subject. They did not listen well to Uncle Vova and Uncle Seryozha, who made it more than clear that in the event of a big mess, the response would immediately fly, including to command posts, for you can't sit out in a puddle.
And in general, the Balts, I think, may be offended - that it was the "aggressor" who first decided to punish the Pshek, and not the main fighter against the Russian bear.

[atakan]

It will fly into their large volcano. and all sorts of air currents and the ocean in six months will bring dust and gas and ashes to us through Europe.

[Ros 56]

The most interesting thing is that only coals will remain from Western Europe, but do they need it?

[Azazelo]

Is there a Sakharov scenario?

[xax]

Quote: Azazelo

Is there a Sakharov scenario?

Give everyone the right to self-determination, from which the collapse of the state into small (self-determined) territories should follow, which the United States can then defeat individually without particularly straining - and not a nuclear war.
Such a scenario? To unclench a fist and allow to break fingers one at a time?

[xax]

The conclusion from the video is that we need to move to Yakutia, no one is aware of the campaign in the USA that someone lives there at all.
The second conclusion is that China wins the war between the USA and the Russian Federation.

[Roman070280]

According to scientists, only in the first hours over 90 million people will be killed and wounded.

The population of the USA + RF + EU ..
Well, yes .. we can say that over 90 million ..
In approximately the same way, 1000 is more than 5 + 5 ..

[K-50]

In the United States, they simulated a nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States.

Heh, can’t wait to turn into coals of ash?

the conflict begins with the use of conventional weapons, but then Russia, in order to deter the offensive of the US and NATO forces, deals a warning nuclear strike on the border region of Germany and Poland. In response, the United States is delivering a nuclear strike in the Kaliningrad region and the conflict escalates into a tactical nuclear war in Europe.
In the future, the parties exchange nuclear strikes, which already cover the entire territory of Europe and extend to the United States and Russia. The conflict escalates into a global nuclear war.

And so it will be. So don't make the "Russian bear" angry.
Maybe even now the fate of the Geyropei will reach them Pin Dosia prepared, the role of sacrificial sheep.

[NF68]

The result of such a war for anyone will be he:

And everyone will get to the full. Who conditionally won / lost and those who will not have any relation whatsoever to this big showdown.

[JD1979]

An interesting simulation was obtained in terms of the distribution of the affected areas. Surprisingly, the Americans simulated the defeat of 80-90% of their territory. And what’s most interesting, after exchanging the first attacks, the second wave of NATO air raids most intensively ironed ... NATO countries, the most devoted US sixes — Poland, the Baltic states and Ukraine. Is it their gratitude for such faithful service? ))). In the third wave, the US ICBMs somehow strangely pile together at 4-5 points without affecting 70-80% of the territory of Russia, and again the ICBMs arriving from Asia go to the countries of Eastern Europe, apparently they would not think that the owners forgot about them and not sad. Missiles from Russia are covering 80-90% of the area of ​​Europe and the USA with a normal distribution, but for some reason France and Spain practically got off with wet pants and a jagged teak. Well, the final exchange on the part of NATO again adds the same place in Russia, again eastern Europe and the cherry goes to the Caucasian republics. So think Psheki, Bribaltosa, Ukrainians and others, that in addition to 30 pieces of silver you get from the owners to catch up and how many times that you would probably feel the whole breadth of gratitude.

[Vadim237]

Well, probably because in Russia most of the population lives

- the guys modeled correctly enough.

[LEONID2018]

For some reason, I think that no 90 million losses will come of it. Just because the main objectives for both sides will be exactly the means of nuclear attack and nothing else. They are exchanged for each other. If anyone is in the black, then in a small, most part the enemy will be disarmed.
But we have a richer tactical one)

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: LEONID2018

For some reason, I think that no 90 million losses will come of it. Just because the main objectives for both sides will be exactly the means of nuclear attack and nothing else.

There will be more. Silently, India and Pakistan will exchange nuclear pleasantries, fly away from Israel from neighbors, maybe what the Iranians hid, they will shoot back everything that is, England will take off in response from Russia to the full, the Baltic states to ruin, China will not stand aside, and Stress India, and maybe even fly to Russia, but to the States for sure. And just in a global nuclear conflict, all major cities are priority goals, like nuclear power plants, and the consequences of their destruction are much worse than those of nuclear weapons themselves.

[Rwmos]

and the conflict escalates into a tactical nuclear war in Europe

... the sweet mrias of Matrasia. Actually, her entire policy is precisely aimed at this, only our president said in plain text that he would fly first of all to the decision-making center - i.e. immediately in the USA

[My_log_in]

The plan, of course, is moronic, like its authors, but I hope the Baltic "tigers" and pan-headed jumpers with other "hyenas of Europe" will be able to draw proper conclusions about the consequences of "teasing the bear" in terms of their own future

[Barmaleyka]

"research" about nothing
why the first strike is precisely on the border between poland and Germany, why the answer is on missile defense, how missile defense systems are involved, etc. etc.

[Mavrikiy]

Well, I’ll congratulate the Amerav, they will, according to their forecasts, live 45 minutes longer. I don’t know how much happier, I admit this, but, anyway, we will come and ask.

[Alex-a832]

Some twofold feeling remained from the cartoon. It seems yes, they show the global nature of the nuclear strike, but the casualty figures are clearly underestimated, given the strikes on densely populated areas. Many people easily figure out numbers in their minds. About half a billion live in EEC countries. In the United States, more than 300 million. In Russia - about 150 million, not counting the countries of the former USSR loyal to us. The total loss of 90 million does not look too scary, since according to this report of the country, the participants in the military conflict on the first day will use up almost all of their nuclear stockpile. What next? And then, according to the logic of some optimistic Russophobes, we will be erased by the overwhelming numerical superiority of NATO forces. Now, if they calculated all the cumulative losses of the population for at least a month, including subsequent deaths from nuclear explosion factors, as well as the formation of zones unsuitable for life, i.e. most of Europe, the greater European part of Russia and part of the Urals, almost the entire territory of the United States from Mexico to Canada, the complete collapse of the global economy, the transition from life to survival of the population of all parties to the conflict and others found themselves nearby. Etc. etc.
And so - a cheap cartoon that turns a global catastrophe of all mankind into flat and not frightening fireworks. Perhaps this is the purpose of these "scientists".

[Dikson]

The most important conclusion is that overseas guys are 90% sure that they will fly to them as a last resort .. As in the first two world ones ... Everything was painted correctly ..- Eastern Europe is for consumption, China should not be touched, the Arctic and Siberia should be saved for their own sake .. And they even decided that the first ones would attack .. Of course, there is a reason .. - while we start to fight with the Poles and the Balts, they will smash our ... across the Strategic Missile Forces ... naive Albanians .. Actually, this video is like would say that the Americans will be and no reason in a new war ..

[Operator]

"The conflict begins with the use of conventional weapons, but then Russia, in order to deter the offensive of the US and NATO forces, inflicts a warning nuclear strike on the border area of ​​Germany and Poland. In response, the US launches a nuclear strike in the Kaliningrad region and the conflict develops into a tactical nuclear war on the territory Europe ", - nonsense, after the American nuclear strike on the national territory of the Russian Federation, our response will arrive on the national territory of the United States, and not Europe.

In reality, if NATO’s aggression is repelled, Russian airborne forces and marines will immediately land on the territory of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria to provoke a US nuclear strike on the territory of these countries.

After the joint incineration of Western Europe (with the exception of France and Britain), the local nuclear conflict will end in a draw.

[faterdom]

Some kind of strange vision .... Mushrooms overeat, apparently.
With us, any Unarmean knows: if the Poles climb, a warning blow will be dealt to Washington, Annapolis and an unfortunate miss will be made by a thermonuclear into the ocean more subtle than Labrador. With a warning tsunami on the east coast of the United States and Canada.
Like this! Do not spoil, they say, a Pole!

[LeonidL]

Good news for the Limitrophs, Poland, Ukraine and other Europeans - they will be protected and cleaned to the last man. Faithful wander gentlemen!

[Zaurbek]

And why didn’t they freak around China?

[atakan]

In China, they fucked up in the Chinese version of YouTube.

[Fedor1]

Over 5 years, the population will recover in numbers due to other countries not bombed

[APASUS]

Another confirmation of the aggressiveness of the Russians, they even begin the first war on simulators. They train their inhabitants to think of hostile Russians. Now they’ll take off a couple of militants with villains from Russia, the Simpsons will have a Russian friend with a sick head in mults, well, that’s all .............

[engineer74]

They didn’t fully "stimulate": then there will be a blow by China against the supposedly surviving centers of power, India against China, Pakistan against India. And all sorts of little things, like Israel and Iran ...
In general, everyone will have fun!
IMHO

[petrol cutter]

Well, as it were ... I did not see anything new in this installation. This is an obvious development.

[Kelwin]

Some dubious introductory - what "the advancing US troops and NATO", these are those 5000-7000 contingents in Europe or something. But this is difficult to imagine, and even if we assume that the instinct of self-preservation is medically suppressed in all the polls, who will give them to start an offensive. The preparation will be revealed by reconnaissance long before the hour "H", and then an ultimatum to the participants of the Sabbath - guys, or turn the shafts, or a preemptive strike on the centers of decision-making and control, 10 minutes for reflection. Or maybe there will be no ultimatum, we will immediately hit targets in Europe, from where they know how we will act. And in general there are doubts that the NATO contingent will carry out such an order, not all of them are clinical, they are well aware that this is a one-way ticket. And the mattresses cannot be sure that Sakharov's scenario has not been realized, maybe a couple of charges are already in place. Vladimir Vladimirovich expressed himself very clearly - we do not need a world without Russia. So the model may be normal, but it won't.

[Vitaly Dorofeev_2]

One small but very big question: WHAT Russia, as shown in the video, the first to strike at Poland and Germany?

[Igor Polovodov]

The provocation is unlikely to start, the gut is thin ....

[atakan]

Quote: Shurik70

I read somehow an interesting theory.

I read, many many times in various sources, that nuclear and other wars on planet Earth occur every twenty, thirty thousand years, which have hundreds of tracks on the surface of the planet.

[seregatara1969]

yeah! Europe is the first to die. By the states it has gotten smaller but most of the country is infected. By the Russians it is a lot but a small part of the country is infected. and at the end, why the hell is a NATO submarine pulled a rocket from the Atlantic into our far east?

[serg v stock]

There is a major mistake in the video. Russia will strike first at penguins in the Arctic, then at polar bears in the Antarctic. Soon we will take revenge for the eaten Cook and it will be the turn of the kangaroos to melt. And so, yes, we are for peace

[alekmi9]

The USA continues to live like in a movie or a fairy tale, with this development, not 90 million people will die, but then the bill will go to billions of inhabitants of the Earth and the complete destruction of the planet Earth...., why bother with that!?
“Sheep” rule and they want to “skeleton” Us... Fuck you! We won’t give a damn about you, but you will go crazy!!!

[av58]

1) It’s not even worth talking about the fact that Russia is starting a war.
2) Who said that Russia will strike first at Europe and then at the USA? Immediately both in Europe and in the United States, and unlimitedly. No “selective” strike, strike immediately and with full force on territories with the most developed infrastructure, military bases and maximum concentration of civilian population.
3) Why did the Americans decide that they would fire missiles at Russia from bases and ships, and we would watch and salute them? Ships, submarines, aircraft, and bases will be destroyed.
4) Something tells me that if Europe is destroyed first, the United States will not even lift a finger, so as not to retaliate. Your American toilet is closer and warmer than a European one.

[Jurkovs]

According to the developed model, the conflict begins with the use of conventional weapons, but then Russia, in order to deter the advance of US and NATO forces, launches a warning nuclear strike on the border area of ​​Germany and Poland.

Rave. The West's desire to start a war by conventional means is understandable. They automatically shift their vision to Russia. But she thinks differently. And he will immediately launch a full-scale nuclear strike on the United States. I think they know about this and this and similar articles are intended to deceive their own population.

[Tolik_74]

Let's speculate. In the event of an exchange of nuclear strikes, there will be nothing left of the Omeriga, a desert. And in Russia, further beyond the Urals and to the farthest east, a vast territory will remain untouched. That’s why the mattress kickers can only dream of bombing Russia, all the wars started by the mattress kickers were against countries that are smaller than them, but richer in resources, and here Natashka’s kickstands with stripes have no guts to shoot in the direction of Russia.

[Iwan_de]

Russians are Chosen by God. Not Jews, not Muslims. Russians.