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In China, discussed how Russia "missile rain" can destroy US aircraft carriers

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The military section of the Chinese edition of Huanqiu published material in which the authors describe how Russia can "defeat the US carrier fleet with a rocket shower." The material is replete with graphics that show how American aviation It will burn literally on the decks of aircraft carriers, not having time to rise into the air.


In China, discussed how Russia "missile rain" can destroy US aircraft carriers


The Chinese author reflects on the fact that "it is enough for the Russians to choose the right strategy with effective weapons in order to destroy the air force of the US Navy."

From the material:

Russian surface ships and nuclear submarines can be used to launch hundreds of missiles, which in turn have a modular design: a booster plus a drone plus a warhead. The mass of the warhead can be up to 70 kg and in free fall format it will rush to the aircraft carrier.

Further, the electronic publication says that a drone with a warhead is separated from the launch vehicle above the AUG. Then he can adjust the position in space.

From the article:

After this, warheads, like raindrops, will fall on an aircraft carrier. So they are able to bomb the entire aircraft carrier strike group.

The material presents a graphic image of what the author is trying to describe in words:


From the publication:

It can be like swords hanging over aircraft carriers, which can at any moment sink to his deck with fatal consequences for him.

The author of the publication says that all this looks like a script for a science fiction film, but the developer (the author of the idea) already says that he is ready to create it weapon at a price of about 10 thousand dollars per unit. " It is noted that several dozen such launch vehicles with drones and warheads will be enough to destroy both carrier-based aircraft and the entire AUG.

From the publication:

Costs are relatively low.
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  1. Theodore
    Theodore 15 September 2019 17: 35
    +37
    They have not seen vertical mowers yet! Those finally on the shaver mow! Everything . soldier
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 September 2019 17: 47
      +26
      Just trolling Americans.
      1. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 15 September 2019 23: 11
        +1
        cool bullet
    2. poquello
      poquello 15 September 2019 17: 52
      +5
      Quote: Theodore
      They have not seen vertical mowers yet! Those finally on the shaver mow! Everything . soldier

      cool bearded humor, but not far from the nuclear tractor
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 15 September 2019 18: 16
        +17
        Quote: poquello
        but the nuclear tractor is not far

        You are right: we are even very much in matters of agricultural machines!

        Therefore - why not dream up !? laughing
        1. poquello
          poquello 15 September 2019 18: 35
          +4
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Quote: poquello
          but the nuclear tractor is not far

          You are right: we are even very much in matters of agricultural machines!

          Therefore - why not dream up !? laughing

          designed this thing with two rams and melee blades DaVinci?
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 15 September 2019 19: 27
            +10
            Quote: poquello
            designed this thing with two rams and melee blades DaVinci?

            No. This is a response to the Chinese aggression in Daman, then the TASS statement said that
            "A peaceful Soviet tractor was quietly plowing in the field when the Hunwenbins attacked it. The tractor was forced to defend itself. The Hunwenbins fled the island in disgrace. If this happens again, the Soviet government will be forced to send seeders, winnowing machines and other agricultural equipment to agricultural work .." . "
            From memory ... It has long been. I then went to school. laughing
            AHA.
            1. poquello
              poquello 15 September 2019 19: 53
              +4
              Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
              From memory ... It has long been.

              "attacked two Soviet tractors, peacefully plowing the land. The tractors destroyed the enemy with missiles and flew away. TASS is authorized to declare: in the event of a repetition of the conflict, vertical take-off mowers will be sent to the border."
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 15 September 2019 20: 02
                +1
                Quote: poquello
                The tractors destroyed the enemy with missiles and flew away ... vertical take-off mowers will be sent. "

                Well, this, too, I remember, was ... Only "verticals" appeared in 1974, if they do not change sclerosis. yes
                Damansky was a little earlier ...
                therefore - my version is preferable ... because. "does not bend" against the history of armaments! laughing
                AHA.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 15 September 2019 20: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: BoA KAA
                  Quote: poquello
                  The tractors destroyed the enemy with missiles and flew away ... vertical take-off mowers will be sent. "

                  Well, this, too, I remember, was ... Only "verticals" appeared in 1974, if they do not change sclerosis. yes
                  Damansky was a little earlier ...
                  therefore - my version is preferable ... because. "does not bend" against the history of armaments! laughing
                  AHA.

                  sclerosis he is
                  Since the early 1960s in the USSR, as well as in England, intensive work was carried out to create vertical take-off and landing aircraft. Soviet aircraft, carrier-based attack aircraft - Yak-38 was designed at the A.S. Yakovlev design bureau, prototypes were manufactured at the Moscow machine-building plant of this design bureau - MMZ "Speed". During its construction, the data obtained during the development and testing of the prototype Yak-36 aircraft, which made its first flight in 1964, were used.
                  1. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 15 September 2019 20: 22
                    0
                    Quote: poquello
                    Yak-36, which made its first flight in the 1964 year.
                    BUT he was never adopted. And the general public learned about its existence from a report about the parade in Domodedovo in the 1967 year ... And so you are right: the Yak-36 first took off as a VTOL aircraft in the 1966 year.
                    On 24 on March 1966, a flight took place in a circle with vertical take-off and landing, and this date became the birthday of the domestic VTOL aircraft. In July 1967, in Domodedovo, at an air parade, thousands of people saw a plane with unique properties. On pylons under the wing, viewers could watch the suspended blocks of the NAR UB-16. But it was a fake weapon, as the weak point of the aircraft remained low payload. The meager payload of this VTOL aircraft made it hopeless, and soon the design bureau began to develop a Yak-36M combat aircraft, which received the designation Yak-38 after being adopted.
                    And the first flight of the Yak-38 took place on September 22, 1970. It was adopted on August 11, 1977. I can also tell you how their numbers were repainted when flying from the Kiev, in order to confuse the enemy when the aircraft was moving from Sevastopol to Severomorsk ... And this also happened ... not only mock-ups of ICBMs were dragged along Red Square, but also smaller scams were turned! yes
            2. bk0010
              bk0010 15 September 2019 23: 36
              +6
              From the Soviet information bureau. Yesterday at four in the morning, in the Amur Valley, the Chinese side, consisting of 4 divisions, with the support of tanks and artillery, crossed the Soviet-Chinese border and attacked a peaceful Soviet tractor. The tractor with heavy barrage of machine-gun fire repulsed the treacherous attack, shooting down 8 aircraft, destroying 30 tanks and up to 1000 enemy units. Then turning on the marching engines disappeared into near-Earth space. The tractor driver is doing well. The flight goes fine. The collective farm chairman, Colonel General D.F. Ustinov, warns that if the incident reoccurs, seeders, winders, threshers and a combine with vertical take-off and landing, as well as with exhaust gases such as sarin and soman, will enter the field.

              We inform you of a flagrant fact:
              On the banks of the Amur River in the midst of native fields
              Our simple Soviet peace tractor was exposed
              The shelling of six Chinese batteries.
              Hearing the wild cry of the Chinese landing
              Soviet tractor driver, by the title of starley,
              Answered the fire with one powerful salvo
              And destroyed six Chinese batteries.
              And then, draining the gas and starting the reactor,
              He plowed all of them and quickly brought in the dung.
              Our Soviet peace tractor rose into the sky
              And he flew home to his beloved state farm.
              The next day, in an interview with special editors of their editorial offices
              The Soviet foreman, by the rank of captain,
              He said that in the case of the second such provocation
              Instead of a tractor, we will release a harvester on the field!

              When the native collective farm was busy with important business
              Sow buckwheat in the fields soon
              Soviet peace tractor was shelled
              Six large-caliber Chinese batteries.
              He unfastened the trailer and launched the locator,
              I checked the operation of automation as soon as possible.
              The tractor driver answered in one powerful salvo
              And destroyed six Chinese batteries.
              And then, draining the gas and dispersing the reactor,
              He quickly breathed in buckwheat and oats.
              Soviet peace tractor rose to heaven
              And flew back to his native collective farm.
              And then, in an interview with one of the editors,
              Our team leader said, as if by chance
              What if such provocations are repeated
              Instead of a tractor, we will release a harvester on the field.

              I will tell you about the blatant fact:
              On the banks of the Amur, amidst the fields
              Caught our simple Soviet tractor
              In the sight of six Chinese batteries.
              Hit a volley, shells flew,
              But the tractor driver was a guy with a head:
              He presses the pedal - and here is not visible goal
              In the smoke curtain delivered.
              And the tractor soared over the pretty side
              And at the same moment the aggressor responded,
              To protect us frighten by war
              Hit a volley of tactical missiles.
              And our tractor driver, captain Litvinov,
              I looked at the map and turned on the afterburner,
              Calmly bombed over Beijing
              And laid home turn.
              He turned off the reactor over Cupid,
              So as not to frighten native sheep and goats.
              Our Soviet tractor rushed in the sky
              To refuel in your own collective farm.
              And, if the enemy takes action again,
              To prevent us from harvesting,
              Order of the USSR Agroprom
              A harvester will fly to our field.

              There were more options
            3. lBEARl
              lBEARl 16 September 2019 21: 14
              +1
              We inform you of a flagrant fact:
              On the banks of the Amur River in the midst of native fields
              Our simple Soviet peace tractor was exposed
              The shelling of six Chinese batteries.

              Hearing the wild cry of the Chinese landing
              Soviet tractor driver, by the title of starley,
              Answered the fire with one powerful salvo
              And destroyed six Chinese batteries.

              And then, draining the gas and starting the reactor,
              He plowed all of them and quickly introduced manure.
              Our Soviet peace tractor rose into the sky
              And he flew home to his beloved state farm.

              The next day in an interview with special editors of their editorial offices
              The Soviet foreman, by the rank of captain,
              He said that in the case of the second such provocation
              Instead of a tractor, we will release a harvester on the field!
        2. bondrostov
          bondrostov 15 September 2019 20: 58
          -1
          What is this vertotank belay wassat
        3. region58
          region58 16 September 2019 00: 59
          +8
          Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
          why not dream up !?

          Well, fantasize so fantasize:
        4. Rostislav
          Rostislav 16 September 2019 09: 49
          +2
          Laser! They forgot to add a laser!
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 15 September 2019 19: 34
      +6
      In China, discussed how Russia "missile rain" can destroy US aircraft carriers

      It is strange why the Chinese are not discussing how they themselves will destroy the US aircraft carriers .. Or they want to sit out on a tree ..
    4. maiman61
      maiman61 15 September 2019 21: 26
      +1
      Yes, all this nonsense! Now, if a rubber bomb is dropped, then this is a kapets! It will crush all the minke whale aviation and will bounce across all states for several more years!
    5. Hort
      Hort 16 September 2019 13: 59
      +1
      Yeah, like this one for example)
  2. Nycomed
    Nycomed 15 September 2019 17: 36
    +1
    Herbert Wells smokes nervously on the sidelines! recourse
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 15 September 2019 18: 35
      +3
      Quote: Nycomed
      Herbert Wells smokes nervously on the sidelines!

      Yes, they just described the principle of a Granite pack of half a century ago, what’s fantastic here
  3. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 15 September 2019 17: 37
    +5
    the Chinese are tricky .... why not draw like this the Chinese are destroying the US aircraft carriers ... cunning ... cunning ... imps
    1. demo
      demo 15 September 2019 17: 40
      +4
      They showed just that.
      It's just that Chinese is hard to understand.
  4. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 15 September 2019 17: 40
    +3
    it all sounds like a science fiction movie script


    Of course it seems, but reality will put everything in its place.
    But in reality, there will be many surprises for the Yankees))
    1. cniza
      cniza 15 September 2019 17: 43
      +2
      And not at all those that are given here.
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 15 September 2019 18: 16
        +2
        Victor hi ! The Chinese have Chinese thoughts, and therefore read their guesses dumbly, but not promisingly.
        I think about the life of the AUGs from Yankesia there are already a lot of developed scenarios of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, all sorts of good ones, from three elements (water, air, earth) at the same time, and not so much, like "get a fascist grenade", but their application will depend on very many factors, and I think the mattresses will be very puzzled ... negative Although I do not think that the Yankees are so stupid as to go to the land of eternal hunting to see those Indians whom they destroyed ...
        1. cniza
          cniza 15 September 2019 18: 41
          +4
          Greetings! hi The United States is far from stupid and everyone understands where to meddle, and where it doesn’t cost and do not wage wars against countries from which even a minimal answer can fly.
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 15 September 2019 18: 33
      +2
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      reality will put everything in its place.

      In reality, everything will be much NOT SO !!! am
      1. AVU, for starters, you need to find ... And it is not a fact that by the time of striking at it, satellites will give TsU. To do this, we need them to remain in working condition ...
      2. It is necessary that the "carriers" go to the ROPs, overcoming the resistance of a far from weak enemy ...
      3. It is necessary to break through missile defense / air defense orders and air patrols ... Well, if there will be Zircons, and if they will not be matched?
      Yes, ICBMs / SLBMs with cluster elements may reach the AUG maneuvering area, but it’s not at all a fact that they have enough radius to destroy submunitions from a cartridge ... AUG will maneuver, evade with maximum moves!
      4. But at the expense of electronic warfare - so the case is clearly "pipe" will be. For the power of the ship installation will be differently greater than that of an onboard power plant of a rocket or a power supply unit ... It will completely clog all the sensors, it will not even breathe ...
      And this is far from all that the adversary has in the storehouse ...
      So "not everything green is round, there is also a square!" (from).
      1. Cetron
        Cetron 15 September 2019 18: 53
        -7
        Do you propose to give up in advance and stand in a pose?
        The training manual is not outdated?
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 15 September 2019 19: 18
          +9
          Quote: Cetron
          Do you propose to give up in advance and stand in a pose?
          The training manual is not outdated?

          1. Sir, I followed these AVMs back in 1977, when you ran to school (barefoot under the table) ... Therefore, leave your "cleverness" for those who have not been to the sea ...
          2. There are two extremes: hatred and all-proprietorship ... Both extremes are unacceptable in military affairs.
          3. I, for now, am a realist and try to take a sober look at things, based on an assessment of my strengths, the strength of the opposing enemy and the assessment of the database area ... As wise teachers taught ...
          Therefore, what kind of "training manual" would you like to talk to me about?
          About the Basics or NBS? Only, plz, more specifically, if you can ... Frets !?
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 15 September 2019 20: 48
        0
        But is it not for these AUGs and other shock forces that we are making apparatuses with an unlimited range of travel / flight? The idea is not to bypass the air defense / missile defense zones and get the target, the idea is to keep the enemy in suspense around the clock. Attack time is unpredictable, as is its strength. The same Petrel can patrol the Atlantic for days, overcoming thousands of kilometers. One or a couple is not particularly problematic, but imagine that there are 40-50 of them. And they fly not in a heap of flocks, but in tens, maybe hundreds, kilometers from each other. Passing on the satellite from its place.
        It is unlikely that AUG will be delighted to run into such a screen staggering across the ocean. It doesn’t matter that part of the Kyrgyz Republic is brought down. They will send a signal of detection and at some point, after collecting all the CDs (and is it just the CDs?) At the turn of the attack, hell for AUG will begin.
        What do you think of this scenario?
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 15 September 2019 20: 50
        +4
        Real war always puts everything in its place. And AUG never participated in a real war, only babies were beaten, with multiple excellencies. So that winked )))
        1. Avior
          Avior 16 September 2019 01: 23
          0
          It happened, and participated in a real war ....
          The history of the creation and formation of the AUG US Navy
          ... the command of the U.S. Navy in the Pacific did not seek to reduce the carrier groups into large operational squadrons from several aircraft carriers, but used them in the operational plan independently as part of separate attack groups (one aircraft carrier + escort cover). However, these individual carrier strike groups could, if operational or strategic need, be combined into larger ocean squadrons from several aircraft carriers and cover groups, as demonstrated by the actions of the US Navy command in a series of major carrier operations during the battle in the Coral Sea in May and atoll Midway in early June 1942 ....
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    1. den3080
      den3080 15 September 2019 20: 59
      0
      Quote: Pacifist with AK
      Better yet, throw off the kamikaze Chinese with lit TNT checkers in their hands! A shower of motivated Chinese will not be stopped by anyone !!!

      Bombs are needed. Rubber. Schaub jumped for a long time and destroyed everything around, well, like balls.
  6. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 15 September 2019 17: 42
    +1
    Well, this is nonsense to spray the impact power on a lot of 70 kilograms of landmines that will only temporarily put the aircraft carrier out of action, but will not sink. For this there are torpedoes of high power, anti-ship missiles, in the end Poseidon
    with a powerful warhead, but without special units, the dagger is the same.
    1. poquello
      poquello 15 September 2019 17: 56
      +2
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      Well, this is nonsense to spray the impact power on a lot of 70 kilograms of landmines that will only temporarily put the aircraft carrier out of action, but will not sink. For this there are torpedoes of high power, anti-ship missiles, in the end Poseidon
      with a powerful warhead, but without special units, the dagger is the same.

      Yes, they projected a tornado along the way to the naval battle, what for it is really incomprehensible
  7. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 15 September 2019 17: 45
    +6
    Forgive me, again, American aircraft carriers attack us ... From which directions? I would like to understand.
    In my unenlightened view, only with Pacific Fleet can such a nuisance happen. There is SF in theory, but this probability tends to zero ...
    1. Rwmos
      Rwmos 15 September 2019 17: 58
      0
      C'mon, according to the Nostradamus hamsters, SyShyA is already building icebreakers in full swing and the Northern Sea Route has almost completely captured wink Waiting for us attack possible aircraft carriers from the North Pole. A stealth aircraft carrier Ford sneaks up and releases a homing Mask - right in Teslamobile, a weapon of crushing power. He will show the LAYOUT of a mattress hypersonic rocket along the way - and everyone will die of fear
      1. Ehanatone
        Ehanatone 15 September 2019 18: 54
        +1
        "stealth aircraft carrier Ford and will release the homing Mask - right in Teslamobile"
        And what a lot of minuses - really the sect of fans of the holy Mask is activating ...
        1. Rwmos
          Rwmos 15 September 2019 21: 34
          0
          Well, at the same time, the sect is all-out ... You’ll explain to them that in the USA only one aircraft carrier has electromagnetic catapults, though it’s broken ... And the rest have steam. And what will happen to the steam at sub-zero temperatures at high latitudes?
          Actually - this is all you need to know about aircraft carriers. They only in the Persian Gulf and swim ...
      2. dirk182
        dirk182 15 September 2019 19: 01
        -1
        But our GS is of a different opinion, therefore everything is increasing the grouping in the Arctic. https://topwar.ru/157104-byt-gotovym-v-arktike-k-realnym-ugrozam-s-vozduha-i-iz-pod-vody-lda.html Here they already wrote that the situation is very, very sad.
    2. skrabplus.ru
      skrabplus.ru 15 September 2019 20: 29
      +1
      They will not crawl into the Black Sea, will not poke into the northern latitudes (Russian FROZ), and the Submarine Fleet will not allow from the East
    3. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 16 September 2019 01: 47
      0
      Quote: Benzorez
      There is SF in theory, but this probability tends to zero ...

      Catapults will freeze.
      Only in the tourist season to try.
  8. dgonni
    dgonni 15 September 2019 17: 47
    +2
    All is well with the exception of target designation. With him, unfortunately worse than nothing!
  9. Freemason Mason
    Freemason Mason 15 September 2019 17: 49
    +5
    An article in the spirit of "if only, if only." Without the use of nuclear weapons, the chances of sinking the American AUG tend to zero, even for Russia. But some kind of AUG floor with a red and yellow flag may well be if the Far East goes to capture wink
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 22 September 2019 21: 01
      0
      I personally can’t understand. What AUG and where in principle is it planned to sink? Where can we meet her native ?! And most importantly, the purpose of her drowning? Though nuclear weapons, though not nuclear weapons ... Here where?! ..
      We (as far as I heard) have a defensive doctrine. Or not?!..
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 September 2019 17: 50
    0
    A sort of "Krasnopol" - overgrown! Me too, Dreamers. But the fact that carrier-based aircraft of an aircraft carrier cannot rise "all of a sudden" is a fact! While the catapults will throw one plane at a time in 4 minutes (excluding the pair on duty), a whole hour ... In two catapults - 30 pieces per hour. Not faster!
  11. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 15 September 2019 17: 50
    +3
    In China, discussed how Russia "missile rain" can destroy US aircraft carriers
    why Russia then? let them destroy
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 September 2019 17: 52
      +2
      Quote: _Ugene_
      why Russia then? let them destroy

      And for this they have medium-range ballistic missiles.
      1. _Ugene_
        _Ugene_ 15 September 2019 17: 53
        +1
        their ballistic missiles are not for moving purposes, they certainly boast about their DF-21D, but there are big doubts
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 15 September 2019 17: 58
          +4
          Quote: _Ugene_
          their ballistic missiles are not for moving purposes

          It is believed that the Dongfeng-21 in the "D" version are fully anti-ship. And they can also hit moving ships.

          By the way, it was the Americans who were the first to sound the alarm.
  12. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 15 September 2019 17: 51
    -2
    Another Russian "kulibin", not finding support in his homeland, decided to sell his invention to the "starving" China from the absence of its inventors and rationalizers. But our Chinese comrades do not want to spend money on the development of this idea, they decided to draw world attention to it (while Russophobia is being replicated). What if there is someone who brings this idea to mind ... and then just copy it. As Comrade Brezhnev said: THE ECONOMY SHOULD BE ECONOMIC ...
  13. beeper
    beeper 15 September 2019 17: 52
    +3
    The greatest degree of bloodlust and militancy for some reason, more often than not, is observed among "leaders" who have never fought, who are surely sure that this evil cup is a blowjob "if something happens" ?! winked
    Why such clearly provocative Chinese publications ??!
    The Chinese, perhaps, are trying to play off Russia with the USA at any time and by themselves "sit on the shore ...", but Russia needs it ??!
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 15 September 2019 18: 30
      +1
      Honestly, I do not think that the PRC plans to fight with the Russian Federation. In the foreseeable future, at least.
      All of these samples from someone's statues are aimed at fueling internecine problems. And a certain escalation of the situation in a relatively calm region.
      Thus, these articles I personally tend to consider-as provocative. hi
      1. beeper
        beeper 15 September 2019 18: 40
        0
        I also know that in the Chinese plans, in the near future, there are no intentions to fight with Russia and I am not writing about the war with China in my comment!
        And I write about obviously provocative, inciting American-Russian hostility, articles in the Chinese press that have been appearing more often lately ?!
  14. GibSoN
    GibSoN 15 September 2019 17: 59
    -7
    Well, really .. Well, not seriously .. What is China? A dozen minutemans, enough more than completely enough for China to cease to exist as a territory ..
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 15 September 2019 18: 13
      +4
      Quote: GibSoN
      Well, really .. Well, not seriously .. What is China? A dozen minutemans, enough more than completely enough for China to cease to exist as a territory ..

      Similarly, a dozen Dongfeng 41 is enough to end the existence of the United States.
      1. GibSoN
        GibSoN 15 September 2019 18: 18
        -3
        Similarly, a dozen Dongfeng 41 is enough to end the existence of the United States.
        Controversial .. well, very controversial ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 15 September 2019 18: 21
          +4
          Quote: GibSoN
          Sorry .. well, very controversial ...

          I agree. Given the behavior of Americans during the 2003 power grid accident, a dozen ICBMs are even many.
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  16. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 15 September 2019 18: 21
    0
    something recently in the news on a lot of the Chinese press and their statements, right without appellation a little, were supposedly impudent, friends
  17. Old26
    Old26 15 September 2019 18: 39
    +4
    Quote: Spade
    It is believed that the Dongfeng-21 in the "D" version are fully anti-ship. And they can also hit moving ships.

    By the way, it was the Americans who were the first to sound the alarm.

    They are considered - yes. But a couple of years ago, even the Chinese themselves disavowed their former statement. Something they have there with the radar does not grow together, "the stone flower does not work." And the ships standing in the base can be hit

    Quote: GibSoN
    Well, really .. Well, not seriously .. What is China? A dozen minutemans, enough more than completely enough for China to cease to exist as a territory ..

    You overstate. In order for China to cease to exist as a state, at least 4 hundred warheads are needed. That is, either all the currently existing "Minutemans" will be needed, or at least one and a half hundred "loaded" ones. And you 10 "Minutemans" want China to cease to exist as a territory. Not even a state. And for the territory, you will probably need an order of magnitude more charges

    Quote: Spade
    Similarly, a dozen Dongfeng 41 is enough to end the existence of the United States.

    I think at least 150 ...
  18. Cry
    Cry 15 September 2019 19: 14
    -1
    The Chinese can be trusted, especially in terms of mass reproduction at a price of about 10 thousand dollars per unit. There are more than a billion of them.
  19. Old26
    Old26 15 September 2019 19: 25
    +3
    Quote: Cetron
    Do you propose to give up in advance and stand in a pose?
    The training manual is not outdated?

    But to think and really appreciate - not given? The main thing is to train about the training manual. But life is very different. Each weapon system has its own vulnerabilities. And they must either be overcome or at least partially fended off ...
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 15 September 2019 19: 49
    0
    Fantasy indefatigable ..... why are the Yankees trampling us with their AUG?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 15 September 2019 20: 08
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Fantasy indefatigable ..... why are the Yankees trampling us with their AUG?

      If they trample, then first of all to China, but in Chinese fantasies we should destroy the American fleet .. Chinese fantasies are alarming ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 15 September 2019 21: 01
        0
        AUGs go into the category ..... if not to scare, then support the small-town conflict.
        Impact means are still ahead, and there is such a big target!
        Those. close to serious guys it’s unreasonable to push such targets until they create effective defenses.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 15 September 2019 21: 05
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          AUGs go into the category ..... if not to scare, then support the small-town conflict.
          Impact means are still ahead, and there is such a big target!
          Those. close to serious guys it’s unreasonable to push such targets until they create effective defenses.

          You’re talking about the technical side .. and that's right, from this point of view, I’m talking from the propaganda side, the Chinese are trying to impose on public opinion that we should clash with the United States, not a single Chinese analyst think about the clash between the USA and China maybe .. And I don't like it .. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 16 September 2019 06: 30
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            So the technical aspects on this issue make it possible not to listen to all sorts of different statements from different angles.
            There are a lot of Wishlist and many, what now to adapt to them?
  21. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 15 September 2019 23: 00
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    Did they order agitation for the Chinese?
  22. Never mind
    Never mind 15 September 2019 23: 13
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    Does China want to push us with America? Clever men are however Chinese.
  23. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 16 September 2019 02: 12
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    In order to organize a rocket shower, you need to have hundreds and thousands of rockets in warehouses and carriers, well, the appropriate number of carriers and highly qualified personnel on them.
    1. shinobi
      shinobi 16 September 2019 06: 29
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      No need. There will be no nuclear war with NATO / USA. One tactical warhead of 25 kilotons is enough to destroy the AUG.
  24. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 16 September 2019 05: 20
    +1
    "Chinese author reflects ...".
    Is thinking?
    We were "thinking" like that in the fifth grade.
  25. shinobi
    shinobi 16 September 2019 06: 25
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    Since be, we have cluster warheads. Why such difficulties?
  26. Old26
    Old26 16 September 2019 11: 18
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    Quote: Wedmak
    One or a couple is not particularly problematic, but imagine that there are 40-50 of them.

    And what will these 40-50 "Petrels" result in? In 1-2 annual defense budgets of Russia?

    Quote: Wedmak
    What do you think of this scenario?

    Fair? Do not be offended, comrade, but crazy

    Quote: Avior
    It happened, and participated in a real war ....

    And then what is a real war? The war in Vietnam is real or not. And the invasion of Iraq? True war or not. Yes, the invasion of Grenada can hardly be called a real war, when you confront the fifty soldiers with small arms. And so, there are cases of participation in real wars, such as World War II